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Speaker 1: On scoring in Zastrolia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panety Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight, the Albanizer government attempts to rain in the

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Speaker 2: massive NDIS cost blowout. Nick Kata and Louis Roberts will

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Speaker 2: join me to discuss that and much more. The brilliant

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Speaker 2: Douglas Murray will join us before the first ad break.

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Speaker 2: It don't want to miss that. John Heindereker will have

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Speaker 2: the latest from the US, including a deepening crisis for

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Speaker 2: the Democrats, and later in the hour, Kinsey Schofield will

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Speaker 2: tell us why a Manhattan judge has rejected the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration's bid to unseal the Jeffrey Epstein grand jury testimony

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Speaker 2: and left he is losing. It features this dangerously dim

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Speaker 2: witted actor. You may recognize him.

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Speaker 3: The guys a monster. It's beyond rang It's almost like

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Speaker 3: he wants to do the most horrible things that he

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Speaker 2: But first, the Albanizer government has unveiled its plan to

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Speaker 2: bring NDIS spending under control, reducing the schemes year on year,

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Speaker 2: increasing costs from ten to twenty percent to four to

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Speaker 2: six percent by twenty twenty seven by no longer accepting

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Speaker 2: kids with mild and moderate autism, despite promises there would

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Speaker 2: be no change to NDIS eligibility. Joining me now for

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Speaker 2: more on this is mensi's Research Center. Senior fellow Nikata

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Speaker 2: and Sky News contributor Louise roberts Nick. This is a

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Speaker 2: broken promise, you could say, by labor, but one that

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Speaker 2: is necessary.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There are good broken promises and bad broken promises.

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Speaker 5: Aren't they.

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Speaker 1: This sounds like it's a broken promise in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: I do kind of worry though, that they're going to

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Speaker 1: get rid of this from the NDIS and then just

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Speaker 1: create another welfare scheme. So you know that size of

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Speaker 1: the welfare check and the whole culture that go with

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Speaker 1: it contributes. I'll tell you what I found so really

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Speaker 1: discouraging about that report regionally, about the number of kids

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Speaker 1: that are on this sort of being diagnosed as autism.

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Speaker 1: I just really don't think we should be diagnosing kids

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Speaker 1: too young. If we can help it. It's better that

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Speaker 1: we give all the help we can get for whatever

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Speaker 1: their issues. But you don't want to kind of pathologize

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Speaker 1: a kid in the way that they'll permanently think, oh,

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Speaker 1: I've got this terrible burden on me. You want them

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Speaker 1: to be able to overcome it. And with something like autism,

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Speaker 1: in most cases there are many ways you can overcome it.

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Speaker 1: And I think what we should be encouraging.

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Speaker 2: People Louisa reducing the scheme's growth to four to six

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Speaker 2: percent per annum is still unsustainable, I would argue, because

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Speaker 2: this has blown out so dramatically in a short number

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Speaker 2: of years. And the number of children in particular who

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Speaker 2: are covered in this scheme. You've got one in every

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Speaker 2: six boys in grade two in the NDIS. I mean

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Speaker 2: that just seems incredible.

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Speaker 6: It does.

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Speaker 7: And this new Thriving Kids scheme they're proposing to sort of,

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Speaker 7: you know, stop the gap of children falling through if

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Speaker 7: they're not covered by the NDIS is going to cost

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Speaker 7: a lot of money as well. And I do feel

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Speaker 7: that a diagnosis should be on reality, not based on

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Speaker 7: a funding model. And unfortunately the NDIS brand, I feel

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Speaker 7: it is broken because you don't think of it as

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Speaker 7: something to help the most needy and vulnerable people in society.

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Speaker 7: You immedate, your mind goes to roots, and people rip

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Speaker 7: you off a system, and you know, as a system

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Speaker 7: per se, it does need a major overhaul. But if

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Speaker 7: thriving kids works, then great, But I think it may,

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Speaker 7: as Nick says, usher in a lot more problems.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's move along to this piece in the Age

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Speaker 2: today that notes more than a quarter of Australian households

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Speaker 2: only contain one person, but only six percent of homes

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Speaker 2: are one bedroom apartments or studios. And of course then

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Speaker 2: to say. It's perfectly acceptable and desirable for people to

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Speaker 2: have spare bedrooms. But you could ask them to pay

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Speaker 2: for it through a land tax, or you could incentivize

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Speaker 2: them to move on through the abolition of stamp duty,

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Speaker 2: or some combination of both. Nick, is this the solution

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Speaker 2: to the housing crisis? Taxing spare bedrooms.

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Speaker 1: Is up to every individual what they do with their house,

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Speaker 1: right if you don't want an sometimes I feel like

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Speaker 1: not having anybody else in the house, and that's fine,

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Speaker 1: But again, you know this sort of spare bedroom tax idea,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just another way for the government to

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Speaker 1: get money out of us. I have some sympathy with

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Speaker 1: the idea that we should lower stamp duty, sure, because

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Speaker 1: that's a big obstacle for a lot of people to

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean. Stab duty is way too high

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Speaker 1: and it stops all sorts of transactions which would otherwise

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Speaker 1: efficient and houses more cheap. But you know, the idea

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Speaker 1: that this is a problem that you're somehow sinning against

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Speaker 1: humanity if you just leave an empty bedroom. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just too much of the nanny state.

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Speaker 2: Once again, Yeah, it's nanny's state, Luise. And it's also

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Speaker 2: just trying to guilt homeowners that if you're one or

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Speaker 7: This is such a ridiculous idea. And again, the housing

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Speaker 7: crisis is not caused by homeowners. People who own these homes,

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Speaker 7: as you say, Rita, you know, who work very hard

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Speaker 7: all their lives and they've got Now I've got a

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Speaker 7: home that they own and it's spacious. Maybe their kids

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Speaker 7: have moved out, but that's not a crime. That's what

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Speaker 7: happens in life. And it's not down to them to

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Speaker 7: fix the housing crisis. It's on the government who are

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Speaker 7: way behind on their housing target anyway, so to go

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Speaker 7: after homeowners will be a very unpopular mood. And also

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Speaker 7: to Nick's point, don't we pay enough taxes anyway? I

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Speaker 7: mean why another one on top of.

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Speaker 2: That, South Australian Premier Peter Malanascus has endorsed the end

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Speaker 2: of woke, well sort of. He said, I think people

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Speaker 2: are just becoming increasingly disinterested in the noise of being

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Speaker 2: woke or anti woke, and they just want to know

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Speaker 2: who in political leadership is occupying the common sense. Nick,

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty disingenuous position to take. It's all well

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Speaker 2: and good to say, you know, we're sick of woke

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Speaker 2: or anti woke when his government is very woke enforcing

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Speaker 2: a state based treaty on the population that clearly doesn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I take it he hasn't spoken out against

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Speaker 1: think what it does is it is another encouraging sign

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Speaker 1: that we are in certainly past peak woke anyway, because

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Speaker 1: shows that the tider's turned. Certainly, the word woke now

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Speaker 1: because it's been so effective. You know, they managed to

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Speaker 1: find words to demonize us, and pick up words like

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Speaker 1: loud to think about. Now, this is an occasion when

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Speaker 1: we've done it back to them.

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Speaker 2: Well, it happens always with the words the left users

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Speaker 2: to describe itself. They pick the word and very quickly

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Speaker 2: that word becomes unfashionable and a slur almost. There's been

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Speaker 2: so many social justice activists woke, progressive, they're all mean

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Speaker 2: something other than what was initially intended. Now. Peter Malanascus

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Speaker 2: also said this about young men becoming increasingly right wing

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Speaker 2: and all the damaging messaging around toxic masculinity is that

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Speaker 2: if we seem to be culturally disconnected from them, young

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Speaker 2: anything else because we wouldn't represent what they're interested in.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why we would consciously allow that to happen, Louise,

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Speaker 2: They're left. In Australia, the smarter ones like the South

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Speaker 2: Australian Premiere are recognizing the data that is showing young

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Speaker 2: men are increasingly becoming right wing in a number of

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Speaker 7: Well that's because certainly men and young men in Australia

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Speaker 7: feel abandoned. They feel that they're you know, because they're male.

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Speaker 7: That's a crime. And I think the South Australian Premium

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Speaker 7: makes a great point that we have to separate the

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Speaker 7: words toxic and masculinity and it will be catastrophic going

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Speaker 7: forward for labor if they don't, you know, step into

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Speaker 7: support the young men in this country who've been demonized

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Speaker 7: four years. I've written about this at length because I

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Speaker 7: feel ready passionately about the subjugation of young men and

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Speaker 7: how they made you feel that they're sort of sexual

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Speaker 7: very relieved to see him step up and make these comments.

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Speaker 6: The sort of woke stuff.

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Speaker 7: Aside, I'm not sure why he went there, but certainly

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Speaker 7: to go in and bat for young men in Australia.

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Speaker 7: I thought was absolutely terrific.

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Speaker 2: Nick Kta, Louis Roberts, thank you so much for your

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Speaker 2: time tonight. Joining me now is the author of international

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Speaker 2: best sellers including The Strange Death of Europe, The Matters

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Speaker 2: of Crowds, The War on the West, and he is

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Speaker 2: the latest on democracies and death cults. Douglas. Let's start

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Speaker 2: in DC, where Donald Trump is tackling crime, to the

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Speaker 2: dismay of Democrats and the media. But look at these

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Speaker 2: crime statistics released by the DC Police Union showing a

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Speaker 2: dramatic drop in crime since the announcement of federal control

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Speaker 2: compared to the seven days prior. We're saying robbery is

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Speaker 2: down forty six percent, carjackings down eighty three percent, violent

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Speaker 2: crime down twenty two percent. Who can possibly be against

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Speaker 5: Well, the Democrats and other Trump critics, as feverish critics,

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Speaker 5: have all been against this from the very beginning. It's

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Speaker 5: extraordinary Trump has the President. Trump has a very straightforward thing,

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Speaker 5: which is that DC, you know, should not be allowed

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Speaker 5: to fall any more than any other American city, but

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Speaker 5: also it should be looked after a little bit more

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Speaker 8: Because it's the nation's.

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Speaker 5: Capital, because it's the place where people arrive in statesman, politicians, businessmen,

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Speaker 5: and tourists. And if Washington, DC is covered in homeless

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Speaker 5: encampments and is rife with crime, then that's the sort

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Speaker 5: of thing that makes people believe that this is a

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Speaker 5: little symptom or big symptom of a much wider problem

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Speaker 8: And that's the main reason.

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Speaker 5: Why Trump has decided to have this crackdown. As you've

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Speaker 5: just shown there, it's clearly already working. And I just

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Speaker 5: wish that, first of all, the critics of Trump would occasionally,

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Speaker 5: if he does something that provably works, would give him

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Speaker 5: some grace for it. And secondly that all of those

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Speaker 5: extraordinarily preachy international figures who believe that he can never

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Speaker 5: do anything right, wonder whether or not they would benefit

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Speaker 5: from the same policies. For instance, I'd have thought that London,

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Speaker 5: where I am at the moment, would certainly be out

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Speaker 5: of benefit from, for instance, the police taking an interest in.

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Speaker 8: Crime, But no, they don't want to do that.

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Speaker 5: And you just have to think of all, just think

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Speaker 5: of all of the tourists to a city who will

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Speaker 5: be put off the city and the country for very

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Speaker 5: considerable time if they experience or witness acts of criminality

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Speaker 5: of the kind that Trump is trying to.

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Speaker 8: Crack down on.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, now you've written in the New York Post about

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Speaker 2: the recent peace talks, the Alaska summit between President Trump

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Speaker 2: and Vladimir Putin, and you argue Peuterin is still up

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Speaker 2: to his old tricks, and Trump knows it. What do

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Speaker 2: Now to a story by Christopher Rufo, who does fantastic

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Speaker 2: University's Center for Middle Eastern Studies is co sponsoring an

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Speaker 8: It's so crazy. I mean, Alarian is somebody who's been

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Speaker 8: And it's utter lunency of Harvard at this stage.

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Speaker 5: And it's involved perhaps the most prominent university in America

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Speaker 8: Precisely these sorts of issues.

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Speaker 5: It's just madness for Harvard to post something as provocative.

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Speaker 8: The plot of what they are actually there to do.

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Speaker 5: And nothing can exemplify that more than something as preposterous

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Speaker 8: Have to say, you know, free speech is absolutely vital.

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Speaker 5: Their being an illegality. You have to say, what do

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Speaker 8: To this issue of fairness because a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 2: He'll come looking for me.

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Speaker 10: That's what happens in that kind of a dictatorship.

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Speaker 2: Well, donald Trump was re elected, it can be, Robert,

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Speaker 2: and it was, And somehow, incredibly, Robert de Niro isn't

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Speaker 2: in a prison camp, he isn't silenced in any way. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: he's on television making an absolute full of himself. Again,

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Speaker 2: let's listen to this latest deranged, delusional, diabolically dumb die tribe.

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Speaker 3: It's about right and wrong period. The guys are monsters

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Speaker 3: beyond wrong. It's almost like he wants to do the

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Speaker 3: most horrible things that he can think of in order

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Speaker 3: to get a rise out of us. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what it is, but he's been doing it and doing it,

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Speaker 3: and it's scary.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, the horrible things Donald Trump is inflicting on America,

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Speaker 2: like bringing back manufacturing, solving the border crisis, reducing the

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Speaker 2: cost of living, not to mention doing peace stills around

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Speaker 2: the world from Armenian Azerbajan to Rwanda and the Congo

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Speaker 2: and several others just in recent months. But while Robert

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Speaker 2: de Niro rants like a demented fool, here is another

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Speaker 2: perspective did from the acting world. This is a Hollywood superstar,

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Speaker 2: Chris Pratt. See if you can detect the subtle difference

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Speaker 2: between the deranged and hero and what Chris has to say.

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Speaker 11: I'd hate to be so marred and hatred for the

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Speaker 11: president that any success from his administration is something I'd

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Speaker 11: have an allergic.

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Speaker 12: Reaction to to be like, oh, well, if they do it,

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Speaker 12: I don't want it to happen.

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Speaker 4: I'll feed my I'll put clarox in my children's cereal myself.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'd say some be reasonable here. There's certain

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Speaker 6: things that would be a good thing to have.

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Speaker 8: I want them on success.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's marvel at Charlie Kirk embarrassing Oxford students during

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Speaker 2: a debate about whether Donald Trump has gone too far.

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Speaker 2: I could play you a whole program of this sort

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Speaker 2: of content. But this next twenty five second clip sums

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Speaker 2: it all up.

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Speaker 7: Trump has deported American citizens to comps without fair trial,

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Speaker 7: but the opposition will still tell you he has not

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Speaker 7: gone too.

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Speaker 11: First, I'll give you a thousand pounds right now if

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Speaker 11: you could tell me the US is an that was

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Speaker 11: deported under Donald Trump. Yeah, the US citizen that was

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Speaker 11: deported under Donald Trump. Can anyone tell me thousand pounds

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Speaker 11: to give with you right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Name wrong?

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Speaker 11: Not a US citizen, Citisen L. Salbert or anywhere else.

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Speaker 11: US citizen deported under Trump. Nope, that was a lie.

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Speaker 11: You should know better than that.

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Speaker 8: You got to Oxford.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps Oxford can welcome this next academic who is fleeing

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Speaker 2: America to do her science, as she calls it, in

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Speaker 2: a better country.

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Speaker 13: I'm an associate professor at the University of California Institution.

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Speaker 5: And I'm starting to talk because I'm going to lead in.

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Speaker 7: The United States with my family to start a life

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Speaker 7: and do my science study climate change and sustainable Zebo.

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Speaker 2: To DC now, and here is a master class in

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Speaker 2: how to handle lefties losing it. You point out them,

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Speaker 2: you explain why their position is absurd, and then you laugh.

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Speaker 2: Let's see Vice President jd Vance and Defense Secretary Pete

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Speaker 2: hegxet demonstrate that perfectly.

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Speaker 8: This is the guy that makes people a low order

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Speaker 8: in their own community.

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Speaker 2: Superb work. That guy thinks people don't deserve law and

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Speaker 2: order in DC. And you know who else thinks that?

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Speaker 2: It's the media? And here jd Vance treats a stupid

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Speaker 2: question from the media with the disdain it deserves.

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Speaker 14: I'm sorry. Polls show that a majority of DC residents

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Speaker 14: don't support the guard here.

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Speaker 8: So what's your message to the majority of DC residents.

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Speaker 14: I'm highly skeptical that a majority of DC residents don't

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Speaker 14: want their city to be to have.

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Speaker 8: Better public safety and more reasonable safety standards within.

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Speaker 6: Washington, DC.

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Speaker 13: I don't know what pool you're talking about, maybe the

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Speaker 13: seat of Poles except Kamala Harrison in the popular world

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Speaker 13: likes and bullies.

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Speaker 2: And White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller had

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Speaker 2: a what a advice will and I quote these stupid

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Speaker 2: white hippies who are demonstrating against the law and auto

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Speaker 2: crackdown in DC.

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Speaker 14: All these demonstrators that you've seen out here in recent days,

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Speaker 14: all of these elderly white hippies.

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Speaker 8: They're not part of the city.

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Speaker 5: Never happened.

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Speaker 14: And by the way, most of the citizens who live

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Speaker 14: in Washington, DC are black. This is not a city

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Speaker 14: that has had any safety for its black citizens for generations.

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Speaker 14: And President Trump is the one who is fixing that

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Speaker 14: with the support Land Metropolitan of the Police Department, the

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Speaker 14: support of the National part and our federal l enforcement officers.

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Speaker 8: So we're going to.

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Speaker 14: Ignore these stupid white hippies and a need to go

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Speaker 14: holm a ticket now because they're all over ninety years old,

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Speaker 14: and we're going to get back from the business of

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Speaker 14: protecting the American people and the citizens.

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Speaker 8: Of Washington News.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is President of the Center of the

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Speaker 2: American Experiment, John Heindereicher. John, we will get to the

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Speaker 2: peace talk shortly, but let's start with the Democrats, and

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Speaker 2: they are in crisis mode, with data showing the party

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Speaker 2: is bleeding support. The New York Times reports that in

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Speaker 2: the thirty states that track voter registration by political party,

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Speaker 2: Democrats lost ground two Republicans in every single one between

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, and in some states

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Speaker 2: by quite a lot. The four year swing towards the

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Speaker 2: Republicans adds up to four point five million voters. John,

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Speaker 2: That is grim for the Democrats, with The Times also

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Speaker 2: reporting that the party saw some of its steepest declines

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Speaker 2: in registrations among young voters, and Donald Trump has been

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Speaker 2: instrumental in that rita.

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Speaker 4: The Democrats really are panicking, in part because that report

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Speaker 4: comes from their newspaper, The New York Times. And as

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Speaker 4: you say, thirty out of thirty states, it's a nationwide trend,

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Speaker 4: and it's strongest among young people and also among minorities.

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Speaker 4: And that's a key point too, because the Democrats strategy

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Speaker 4: has then to build a permanent winning coalition that's based

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Speaker 4: primarily on minority voters. That strategy right now is not

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Speaker 4: looking good at all. And so, yeah, the Democrats really

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Speaker 4: are in a padic, John.

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Speaker 2: The New York Times analysis also shows that this trend

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Speaker 2: is not new. It's been evident for months, for years.

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Speaker 2: In fact, in twenty eighteen, Democrats accounted for thirty four

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Speaker 2: percent of new voter registrations nationwide, Republicans were only twenty percent,

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Speaker 2: But by twenty twenty four, Republicans were overtaking the Democrats

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Speaker 2: among new registrants. Can the Republicans maintain this momentum beyond

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: I think so Donald Trump is really the candidate of

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Speaker 4: common sense, and I think there are others who can

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Speaker 4: pick up that mantle and carry it effectively. The Democrats

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Speaker 4: problem isn't so much Donald Trump as it is the

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Speaker 4: fact that they've gone crazy on the issues. They're pro crime,

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Speaker 4: they have this whole trans thing going on, absolutely no

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Speaker 4: restraint when it comes to spending, and so it seems

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Speaker 4: to me that even after Donald Trump is gone, in

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Speaker 4: order to come back, the Democrats are going to have

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Speaker 4: to become a more mainstream party on the issues.

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Speaker 2: Well, talking about going crazy, let's hear from MSNBC pundit

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Speaker 2: Mully Fast. If the Democrats listen to this advice, John,

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Speaker 2: then they deserve what's coming.

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Speaker 15: Why are Democrats not Why are the polls back? Why

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Speaker 15: are they not breaking through? And I think it's a

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Speaker 15: couple of things. I think one is the people who

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Speaker 15: are breaking through are brave, right, they talk about humans,

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Speaker 15: They make the case Chris Murphy, Sharon Brown, Mondami, these

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Speaker 15: people AOC. They're not all exactly the same politically, but

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Speaker 15: they are the same in the fact that they're brave

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Speaker 15: and they break through.

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Speaker 2: I'd argue they are all the same politically, Jon, there

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Speaker 2: you go. You've got ma'm danni and Ioca. Are they

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Speaker 2: the solution to the democrats problems?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Rita, they're the saying they're socialists. We've got one

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Speaker 4: here in Minneapolis, you know where I live. There's a

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Speaker 4: guy named Omar Fonte who's an avowed socialist who's running

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Speaker 4: and is now the favorite to become the mayor of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 4: And I don't even understand the idea being of socialist.

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Speaker 4: I mean, America is not going to become a socialist

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Speaker 4: country and New York is not going to become a

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Speaker 4: socialist city. You know, this is a kind of a

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Speaker 4: luxury that certain voters who are limited to blue urban

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Speaker 4: areas can indulge. But outside of that handful of blue

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Speaker 4: urban areas, there is no support for this kind of

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Speaker 4: fire leftism.

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Speaker 2: John, we should have given a tree warning before this discussion,

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Speaker 2: because I think Democrats are going to be pretty disturbed

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Speaker 2: by what they're going to hear next.

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Speaker 13: Breaking tonight, Texas Republican legislators have just won their fight

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Speaker 13: over redistricting just moments ago. The state House vote is

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Speaker 13: now final. The bill aims to provide five additional congressional

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Speaker 13: seats for the GOP.

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Speaker 2: John How significant is this redistricting and are the states

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Speaker 2: looking at doing the same thing?

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Speaker 4: Well, read, of course, what's going on here is that

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Speaker 4: the Democrats have been jerrymandering for decades, and now that

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Speaker 4: the Republicans are trying to catch up, they're all up

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Speaker 4: in arms about it. But Democratic states like California, Illinois,

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Speaker 4: and Massachusetts and Maryland others are already heavily jerrymandered. Texas

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Speaker 4: isn't jerrymanderd at all, and so it's going to be

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Speaker 4: very difficult for the Democrats to respond effectively to this

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Speaker 4: because they've already wrung a about as many needs they

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Speaker 4: can out of the states that they control.

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Speaker 2: That is exactly true, and the absolute meltdown over the

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Speaker 2: Republicans starting to do what they've been doing for years

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Speaker 2: has been very amusing to observe. Now, let's discuss the

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Speaker 2: extraordinary talks of the past week, starting with the Alaskan

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Speaker 2: summit between President Trump and Vladimir Putin that saw European

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Speaker 2: leaders fly to the White House within forty eight hours

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Speaker 2: and in the hopes that a lasting peace agreement could

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Speaker 2: be struck. Between Russia and Ukraine. But vpjd Vance has

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Speaker 2: made it clear that it is Europe that must carry

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Speaker 2: the burden, that cannot continue to rely on the US

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Speaker 2: to play the leading role.

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't think we should carry the burden here.

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Speaker 11: I think that we should be helpful if it's necessary

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Speaker 11: to stop the war and to stop the killing. But

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Speaker 11: I think that we should expect, and the President certainly expects,

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Speaker 11: Europe to play.

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Speaker 8: The leading role here.

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Speaker 5: No matter what happens, no matter what form this takes,

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Speaker 5: the Europeans are going to have to take the line's

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Speaker 5: share of the burden.

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Speaker 2: John, is Europe up to the task, not yet Rita.

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Speaker 4: To be fair, they've made significant strides really since the

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Speaker 4: first Trump administration. He's been leaning on them to improve

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Speaker 4: their defense capabilities, and they have made some pretty serious

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Speaker 4: efforts in that direction. But I think the more significant

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Speaker 4: point as far as Ukraine is concerned is no, the

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Speaker 4: Europeans are not yet ready to really take on that burden,

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Speaker 4: but the United States is participating in the security guarantees

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Speaker 4: that are being given to Ukraine. We are not going

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Speaker 4: to have soldiers on the ground, but I believe that

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Speaker 4: the agreement is going to provide that the US will

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Speaker 4: provide air cover to protect Ukraine and Rita. No one

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Speaker 4: wants to mess with the United States Air Force.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. What do you think about the plan

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Speaker 2: to bring Pewtin and Zelensky together? Donald Trump has said

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Speaker 2: he wants them to have a face to face meeting

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Speaker 2: to hash this out. Do you see that as feasible.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's really up to them, reader, but I think

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Speaker 4: it should be feasible. They are the ones that have

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Speaker 4: to solve this problem. They are the ones. They hate it.

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Speaker 4: They won't hate, you know, having to make a peace agreement,

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Speaker 4: but they've got to do it. They're the only ones

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Speaker 4: who can do it. And I think Trump is right

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Speaker 4: to say that the time has come for these two

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Speaker 4: guys to sit down, face to face and hammer out

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Speaker 4: an agreement that neither of them is going to like,

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Speaker 4: but that both of them can live with.

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Speaker 2: John Let's hear from Keir Starman now, who bizarrely claims

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Speaker 2: that there is not a family in the UK that

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Speaker 2: has not been personally impacted by the Russian Ukrainian War.

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Speaker 16: The war in Ukrainius had a huge impact, particularly on

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Speaker 16: the Ukrainians who bulled the front of it, but It's

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Speaker 16: also had an impact on Europe and on the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 16: There's not a family or community that hasn't been affected.

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Speaker 2: John, These European leaders have had three and a half

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Speaker 2: years to do something about ending this war. It looks

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Speaker 2: like the Trump administration we'll have to play a leading

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Speaker 2: role in securing lasting peace.

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Speaker 4: Well, Rita, we need to have a US, lasting US presidence.

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Speaker 4: You know who else had three and a half years

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Speaker 4: to address this problem. Joe Biden did, and of course.

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Speaker 2: He did well. Of course nothing and nobody.

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Speaker 4: Thinks that people like Starmer and Macron are really going

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Speaker 4: to be able to contribute a great deal here.

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Speaker 1: You don't.

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Speaker 4: At that session they had at the White House a

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Speaker 4: few days ago with all of the European leaders present,

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Speaker 4: the President of Finland said, we've made more progress in

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Speaker 4: the last two weeks than we've made in the preceding

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Speaker 4: three and a half years. In Georgia, Maloney, who I

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Speaker 4: like a lot, said yeah, something has changed. Well, I

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Speaker 4: think we all know what something is. Something is Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden is often arrest home somewhe and Donald Trump is

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Speaker 4: in the White House, and I'm hopeful, reader, it's up

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Speaker 4: to the parties. It's up to Ukraine and Russia. They're

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Speaker 4: the ones that have to make the deal. But I'm

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Speaker 4: hopeful that we are finally going to see peace in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: I'm hopeful too, John Heinderreka, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: your time. Tonight still to come. Why Manhattan judge has

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Speaker 2: rejected the Trump administration's bid to unseal the Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 2: grand jury testimony. Kinsey Schofield has the details. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey,

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Speaker 2: a Manhattan federal judge, has rejected the Trump administration's bid

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Speaker 2: to unseal the Jeffrey Epstein grand jury testimonies, saying that

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Speaker 2: it failed to demonstrate any special circumstance that would justify

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Speaker 2: releasing the transcripts. Kitty, how is this decision being received?

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Speaker 2: Surely it's in the public interest to release the testimonias

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Speaker 2: as long as the victims are protected.

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Speaker 12: No, I agree with you, But anytime new Epstein records

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Speaker 12: are blocked, it fuels more curiosity and suspicion. Conspiracy theories

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Speaker 12: thrive in that vacuum because the less people know, the

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Speaker 12: more they fill in the blanks themselves and with the

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Speaker 12: Trump administration having promised transparency but failing to deliver on it,

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Speaker 12: the public's distrust seems to deepen when it comes to

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Speaker 12: this story. But look, the judge said, the entire investigation

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Speaker 12: file is already in the DOJ's hands and seems more

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Speaker 12: substantial compared to the requests slash rejected documents. So I

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Speaker 12: think the judge is saying, you guys have a lot here.

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Speaker 2: Now. We haven't talked about this character for a while.

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Speaker 2: Conservative influencer Ashley Sinclair has clive that she could be

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Speaker 2: evicted amid her ongoing child support battle with Elon Musk,

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Speaker 2: the alleged father of her seven month old son, Romulus Kinsey.

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Speaker 2: What more can you tell me about this?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 12: To combat her eviction, Ashley Saint Clair has launched a

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Speaker 12: new pat podcast called Bad Advice. She admitted that she's

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Speaker 12: made many questionable life choices and has a gap in

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Speaker 12: her LinkedIn profile that cannot be legally explained. She even warned,

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Speaker 12: I actually think I have the worst ideas, so consider

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Speaker 12: everything out of my mouth.

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Speaker 6: I cautionary tale.

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Speaker 12: She's you know, she claims her opinions for or She

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Speaker 12: claims her options for income were little Tonne after she

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Speaker 12: revealed that Elon Musk was allegedly the father of her child. Clearly,

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Speaker 12: she's self deprecating and has a good sense of humor,

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Speaker 12: so good luck to her.

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Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if that was true. And surely the

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Speaker 2: world's richest man isn't going to have his baby mama,

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Speaker 2: one of one of his many baby mamas and son

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Speaker 2: out on the streets. I mean, really is that likely?

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Speaker 2: And didn't she get a big payout from Elon Musk

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Speaker 2: not too long ago?

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Speaker 12: Well, he offered her a huge payout to stay quiet,

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Speaker 12: and they say that she was just she was very

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Speaker 12: envious watching his life next to Trump and wanted to

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Speaker 12: be a part of the show and just couldn't take

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Speaker 12: being this you know the secret. He does claim that

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Speaker 12: he gives her a significant amount of money, but he

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Speaker 12: decreased it when she started talking about him now.

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Speaker 2: Kid Rock has hit out at California Governor Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 2: after his office posted this on X kid Rock wants

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Speaker 2: you to support Gavin newsm Why would they do that?

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Speaker 2: Alongside an AI generated image of the musician. Kid Rock replied,

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Speaker 2: the only support Gavin newsm misspelled deliberately. Well, what ever

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Speaker 2: get out of me is from these nuts and usem

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Speaker 2: replied to that, I hate kid Rock, I mean kids.

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Speaker 2: It's clear what he's trying to do. Yeah, he's trying

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Speaker 2: to emulate Donald Trump on social media, but it's not

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Speaker 2: working for him. It's just giving desperate vibes. He's not

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 12: I honestly hate this, but analytically Fast Company magazine disagrees

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Speaker 12: with us and says it is working. Fox News host

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Speaker 12: Dana Perino was critical of the account, and on Tuesday,

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Speaker 12: Newsome tore into her in one of these Trump style tweets,

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Speaker 12: and the post garnered nearly five million views. Newsom's office

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Speaker 12: told Politico that their Twitter account x account has gained

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Speaker 12: more than two hundred and fifty thousand followers since August first. Obviously,

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Speaker 12: this is leading to further speculation that he could run

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Speaker 12: for president in twenty twenty eight, to which I would

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Speaker 12: point to.

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Speaker 6: The feces I have to step.

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Speaker 12: Over in downtown Los Angeles to get into my and say,

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Speaker 12: please God, no, do not put do not put this

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Speaker 12: man in charge of our country.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was mayor of San Francisco and that city

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Speaker 2: is at mess. As shadow of its former self. He's

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Speaker 2: been governor of California, inflicted enormous damage there. Could he

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Speaker 2: possibly foil his way up into the White House?

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Speaker 12: I want to say no, but I mean I've seen

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Speaker 12: I saw Joe Biden.

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Speaker 6: I witnessed that with my own two eyes.

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Speaker 12: So I mean with all of the chaos surrounding the

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Speaker 12: Biden family, yeah, I mean, you see people hate vote

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Speaker 12: and you see other things. Wild things happen in this country.

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Speaker 12: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He is definitely a very media savvy and they've got

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Speaker 2: a very shallow talent pulled the Democrats, So he may

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Speaker 2: be the candidate. Now let's move along to Post Malone.

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Speaker 2: He's featured in a country themed add for Skins. This

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Speaker 2: is the Tits brand founded by Kim Kardashian, and he's

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Speaker 2: stripped down to his underwear as the brand's newest face

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Speaker 2: could you say face in its men's line Kinsey. It's

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Speaker 2: an interesting collaboration.

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Speaker 12: Oh right, the collab not on my twenty twenty five

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Speaker 12: bingo card in his underwear in the woods. Spoke to

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Speaker 12: GQ about this, he told them, I've never done anything

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Speaker 12: like that. It's like a sasquatch siting essentially is what.

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Speaker 12: It feels like everyone's going to call in the cops

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Speaker 12: and say we saw bigfoot out there or average foot.

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Speaker 6: I mean to me, it's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you country is so cool at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Everyone wants to embrace the country theme. Some do it

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Speaker 2: better than others. I think Beyonce, though she won that

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Speaker 2: album of the year country album of the Year, that

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Speaker 2: was a travesty, I don't think she's succeeded in any way.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is going to work, because

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Speaker 2: you've got to be authentic. You can't just pretend to

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Speaker 2: be country. You got to have it in you. Now,

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Speaker 2: Sydney Sweetey, I don't think I've talked about this girl

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Speaker 2: so much ever in my life, and I probably never

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Speaker 2: will again. But she's grabbing headlines everywhere, and she's hit

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Speaker 2: back at claims that she's leading too hard into suggestive

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Speaker 2: and over sexualized marketing, saying that the ads are strategic

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Speaker 2: and a lot of thought goes into them. She said

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Speaker 2: it was mainly the girls making comments about it, which

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Speaker 2: I thought was really interesting. She told the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 2: They all love the idea of Jacob Lordie's bathwater. I

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Speaker 2: don't even know who that is it Kinsey. They explained

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Speaker 2: that comment to me.

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Speaker 12: Okay, so you know, I just to your point, you've

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Speaker 12: never spoken about this woman, you know, in your life

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Speaker 12: as much as you are now I agree with her.

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Speaker 12: Sidney Sweeney's Big Break is generally considered HBO's euphoria with

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Speaker 12: Jacob Alladi, with Zindaya. It's an ensemble show and I

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Speaker 12: can't name any other cast members. So Sydney has strategically

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Speaker 12: elevated herself through some of these quirky and sexy campaigns.

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Speaker 6: And she's right. It is the girls being caddy. It is.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's just no question.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I've seen some caddy boys, you can call

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Speaker 2: them baits, but there's been some caddy leftist men who've

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Speaker 2: also been very critical of her work. Here now, I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you about this new book that is

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Speaker 2: coming out about the Royals. Yet another book, and it's

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Speaker 2: causing all sorts of outraged headlines about Prince Philip's unthinkable forward.

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Speaker 2: Meghan markels sledge it's not that unthinkable. It appears that,

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Speaker 2: while standing alongside the Queen, the ninety six year old

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Speaker 2: Duke of Edinburgh muttered, thank f that's over. As he

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Speaker 2: looked out of the service, Kinsey, I would have thought

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Speaker 2: that was a fairly standard reaction and not much of

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Speaker 2: a sledge by the Late Duke standards.

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Speaker 12: I've known about this for a month and I haven't

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Speaker 12: been able to say anything about it, but this is

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Speaker 12: my favorite bit of Grant Harold's new book.

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Speaker 6: Coming out of the Royal Butler.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I mean this I think matches with what Lady Elizabeth

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Speaker 12: Anson and Sally that was reported through Sally Bedell Smith said,

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Speaker 12: which was at this wedding was a nightmare from hell

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Speaker 12: for these two people, the.

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Speaker 6: Queen and Prince Philip.

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Speaker 12: That they went above and beyond for two very ungrateful people,

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Speaker 12: and they were thrilled when it was said and done

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Speaker 12: with because they could close that chapter. Little did they

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Speaker 12: know that Harry and Meghan were about to wreak absolute

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Speaker 12: havoc on this institution that gave them their platform.

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Speaker 2: Yep, he said, think if it's over, it was only

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Speaker 2: beginning the troubles. And really I think that is the

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Speaker 2: most unforgivable sin that Harry has committed. Is what do

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Speaker 2: you put the late Queen through in her final years? Kinsiscofield,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's

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Speaker 2: all the time we have up next, it's Newsnight. Don't

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Speaker 2: forget Lefty's losing it to tomorrow Nights at nine pm