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Speaker 1: I'm Britney Saunders and I'm all right hey, and Matt,
Speaker 1: you sound so depressed.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm you know what, put it.
Speaker 1: On fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes, Matt, and you can go
Speaker 1: home to sleep.
Speaker 2: I'm not going on to save word, bitch. I'm Britney
Speaker 2: Saunders and I'm all.
Speaker 1: Right hey, and you have made your way onto our
Speaker 1: close friends because.
Speaker 2: You don't put the juiciest gouff on your main story. Yeah,
Speaker 2: keep it for your color. That's friends.
Speaker 1: You're really on one today.
Speaker 2: I am you. Yeah, I'm feeling so good and so
Speaker 2: happy and so fabulous. That's exactly what these episodes are.
Speaker 2: Par Sole's I don't even know, come on, duh, let's
Speaker 2: get into it.
Speaker 1: We spoke on the main episode about something and it
Speaker 1: got it got me going into a story. But then
Speaker 1: we said, hang on a second, let's keep it for
Speaker 1: this did you ever do work experience in school?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I think it was when you were doing one of
Speaker 1: the TAFE courses as a subject in school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, never did any of that. Couldn't be bothered. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not putting in an extra effort.
Speaker 1: So I was doing business services, which is a TAFE course.
Speaker 1: Don't know what the fuck certificate that is. I think
Speaker 1: it was like I learn how to write on the
Speaker 1: outside of envelope. Like what we learned, like how to
Speaker 1: correctly put the person's name, address, where to put the postcode,
Speaker 1: where to put the stamp?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? No, that's a TAFE course.
Speaker 1: Well that's what was one of the parts of it.
Speaker 2: They are pulling my fucking leg. That is not what
Speaker 2: did you learn?
Speaker 1: It was over ten years ago, so it obviously wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the same now now it's probably like how to
Speaker 1: send an email?
Speaker 2: No, that's not real and what? But my thing is,
Speaker 2: why were you in it? I understand some people might
Speaker 2: need to learn how to because it was like a thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was deep down maybe knowing that I was going
Speaker 1: to be in business one day. That's why I picked
Speaker 1: business services. I don't know what it was I just
Speaker 1: didn't want to do any of the normal topics at school,
Speaker 1: so I just picked anything. Anyway, when you do those
Speaker 1: tape courses through your school subjects, you have to go
Speaker 1: and do two rounds of work experience to complete the course,
Speaker 1: one week at one place, one week at another place,
Speaker 1: and the school chooses where you go. You don't get
Speaker 1: to pick where you go. And with business services, it
Speaker 1: was a lot of like learning admin and stuff like
Speaker 1: working in an office role and all that kind of shit,
Speaker 1: which I don't know why I thought I'd be fucking
Speaker 1: interested in that. What I kind of work, just sitting
Speaker 1: in an office, I'll go crazy. I tried it, trust me.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I got given my one week. I think
Speaker 1: it was the first week of it, because you do
Speaker 1: it like at two different times of the year, and
Speaker 1: my first one was doing one week of admin work
Speaker 1: at the Army Reserves in Newcastle.
Speaker 2: Okay, So when you said this in the main episode,
Speaker 2: I thought, we're going to get a story.
Speaker 1: I am telling you a story, I know.
Speaker 2: But I was. I thought I didn't realize you were
Speaker 2: going to be doing admin at the Army. I'm expecting
Speaker 2: you to tell me you was doing all the guns
Speaker 2: and stuff and rolling around in the mud. I want
Speaker 2: to just see your climb and that.
Speaker 1: So at this same time, I was trying to work
Speaker 1: out what I wanted to do for a career because
Speaker 1: my school was fucking going ham on us, saying, you
Speaker 1: guys are fucking mind you. I'm like fifteen or something
Speaker 1: because I was young for my year, and I'm getting
Speaker 1: pressured to figure out what i want to do with
Speaker 1: my life. And I'm fifteen years old, a year young
Speaker 1: for my year, and so I'm flipping out. I went
Speaker 1: to the career's day for the Army and was looking
Speaker 1: at choosing between the Navy and the Army, and I
Speaker 1: fully had this one on one chat with this like
Speaker 1: sergeant guy, and he was giving me all the booklets
Speaker 1: and pamphlets and literally telling me all about you know
Speaker 1: how they go away for like the eight weeks or
Speaker 1: whatever and do all that training it I can't remember
Speaker 1: where it is, and then you do the day where
Speaker 1: your family comes. Like I was fully thinking I was
Speaker 1: going to fucking sign up to this. I don't know
Speaker 1: why anyway, So I don't know if that tied into
Speaker 1: me then getting put at the Army Reserves for my
Speaker 1: work experience. So I remember thinking admin at the Army,
Speaker 1: like what the fuck? Like I didn't even think that
Speaker 1: was a thing, you know, but obviously they need someone
Speaker 1: doing their ADMIN. And so I go there. I'm fifteen
Speaker 1: years old, like I'm getting dropped there by mama, or
Speaker 1: I'm catching the bus and walking in. I am so
Speaker 1: out of my comfort zone and I'm not the confident
Speaker 1: me that I am today. I'm like this shy school girl. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I go into the Army Reserves. It's the most bland
Speaker 1: office that I've ever been to, like your typical office,
Speaker 1: like I've worked in plenty of them. And I get
Speaker 1: put with a sergeant of this Army Reserves. And it
Speaker 1: was a woman, and she was so intimidating, like not friendly,
Speaker 1: like she fucking you could tell she was an Army sergeant.
Speaker 2: She was so she was working in admin though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like running the office and maybe like running the reserves.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. This was so long ago. Fuck, this
Speaker 1: is like fifteen years ago. That's so odd. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: went into the office, got introduced to all the people
Speaker 1: working in there, and then I got to do a
Speaker 1: tour around the reserves and I went to like the
Speaker 1: the medic, like there's a medic that's always working in
Speaker 1: there in the medical room. Then I went out to
Speaker 1: like the yard and whatever, and fuck, I hope no
Speaker 1: one that knows this woman's going to listen to this. This
Speaker 1: was fifteen years ago, so who knows where she is now.
Speaker 1: But I very quickly noticed. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was just this particular place or if it's just
Speaker 1: like the army in general, they hate, well, they hated
Speaker 1: the general population. What it was very very much like
Speaker 1: they were different to us on the outside and they
Speaker 1: were referring to all of us on the outside as civies.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, civilians.
Speaker 1: And very quickly because we were just kind of sitting
Speaker 1: in the office, like I think they literally got me
Speaker 1: to photocopy a few things on this first day, and
Speaker 1: the conversation was just like always comparing civies to them,
Speaker 1: and it just felt the vibes were so off, Like
Speaker 1: I was like I couldn't wait to fucking go home.
Speaker 1: And I had the whole week there and this was
Speaker 1: the Monday, and they were just like talking down about
Speaker 1: the civs and the CIV world and again, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to generalize the people of the army. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is like traditionally how they talk
Speaker 1: about like the civis, but I don't know, maybe someone
Speaker 1: listening knows someone in the army or whatever. But it
Speaker 1: was very negative and like I couldn't wait to get
Speaker 1: the fuck out of there. Anyway, this day like went forever.
Speaker 1: I absolutely hated it. I think it's more like just
Speaker 1: the people were bringing the vibes down. Mind you, I'm
Speaker 1: fifteen years old, I'm not fit, I'm not doing sport
Speaker 1: or anything. Then this big other sergeant guy comes in.
Speaker 1: Well I'm so intimidated. Can you imagine, Like they're all
Speaker 1: in their fucking uniforms with everything, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the fuck school girl with blonde hair fifteen years old,
Speaker 1: well around all the full take to my hand like yeah,
Speaker 1: like being all serious. And then so it turns out
Speaker 1: that every morning, it doesn't matter what role you do
Speaker 1: in the Army reserves. And again I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's the same now, this is fifteen years ago. But
Speaker 1: you have to go in really early in the morning
Speaker 1: to do like their boot camp every morning.
Speaker 2: Did you have to do that?
Speaker 1: So this guy comes in on the Monday, nice to
Speaker 1: meet you blah blah blah. So tomorrow, because I think
Speaker 1: that I went there like nine am on the first day,
Speaker 1: but tomorrow, like you got to be in at seven
Speaker 1: or whatever. First ball. I'm like, fuck that, Like I
Speaker 1: can't go get up and be there at seven o'clock
Speaker 1: to do like the boot camp and like the obstacle
Speaker 1: course and shit outside and no matter what role they did,
Speaker 1: you were doing that every morning. And I was like, okay, yep,
Speaker 1: I'll be there.
Speaker 2: No worries.
Speaker 1: Anyway, worst day of my life. Went home and I
Speaker 1: just said I'm not fucking gone.
Speaker 2: Did you do the boot can the next day?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: She never went back.
Speaker 1: I wopped for the rest of the week and I
Speaker 1: just you whopped?
Speaker 2: Wagged? What does mean? That's what we called there's a
Speaker 2: different there's a different meaning for wop. In twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: I was like, you wopped.
Speaker 1: That's what we used to call it wop in school.
Speaker 2: No, we called it wagging.
Speaker 1: Yes, same thing, that's what we called it.
Speaker 2: Would you call it Hannah wagging? What do you call
Speaker 2: it wagging?
Speaker 1: We called it whopping. So anyway, I was that mortified
Speaker 1: from that day at the Army Reserves that I said
Speaker 1: to my mum, I'm not going back there, And because
Speaker 1: my mom didn't give a fuck about whether I went
Speaker 1: to school or not, She's like, I don't.
Speaker 2: Give a fuck, and so I just chazzy.
Speaker 1: I just simply didn't go back for the rest of
Speaker 1: the week, and I also didn't.
Speaker 2: Go to school again.
Speaker 1: Ever, you must have been the start of me Quentin
Speaker 1: school and my school, like the army rang my my
Speaker 1: school the next morning to be like where is she?
Speaker 1: And then my school my school rang my mom?
Speaker 2: Are you going for a career's expo to the army,
Speaker 2: to the army making you drop out of school? But
Speaker 2: not because you're joining the army, because you just had
Speaker 2: such a bad day at the army that you decided
Speaker 2: to just change your entire trajectory in life and go nah.
Speaker 1: Hat anyway, So it wasn't because of that. Like I
Speaker 1: hated school. I had the worst attendance record, but I
Speaker 1: remember them ringing my.
Speaker 2: School in the school once. Not one time did I wag.
Speaker 2: The only time I skipped was when I had an awful,
Speaker 2: awful teacher for legal studies and he was just horrible
Speaker 2: to me all year, Like one of those teachers where
Speaker 2: like I would not talk. But my friend was talking
Speaker 2: to me the entire time, and I've got direct eye
Speaker 2: contact with him, and I'm going, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: just zoning in on him. I'm letting him know I
Speaker 2: am listening respectively. My friend is the one being disrespectful.
Speaker 2: I would literally, after ten minutes, go, I just need
Speaker 2: you to be quiet, and he'd go down my classroom
Speaker 2: like he just hated me. And I literally always did
Speaker 2: nothing wrong. And then one day I showed up really late,
Speaker 2: only like five minutes late. But I had a teacher
Speaker 2: beforehand keep me back because not for anything to be like,
Speaker 2: I wasn't in trouble or anything, not that I would
Speaker 2: have cared if I was, but anyway, I just wanted
Speaker 2: to clarify that. And it was five minutes late to
Speaker 2: his class and he I knocked on the door. The
Speaker 2: door was locked, and he opened the door and he
Speaker 2: did not say a word, and he slammed the door
Speaker 2: in my face, and I went, well, fuck off, I'm
Speaker 2: going on to Macker's. And so I went and got
Speaker 2: myself a lovely sausage off and at McDonald's, and then
Speaker 2: I went and sat in the library, and then he
Speaker 2: called the principal and said, Matthew is wagging. And then
Speaker 2: the principal came to or the deputy principal came to
Speaker 2: see me in the library and was like, why an't
Speaker 2: you in class? And I explained the situation and the
Speaker 2: principal the deputy principal sided with me, and also I
Speaker 2: had a bit of a crush on him, so I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, playing the damsel in distress.
Speaker 1: I was five minutes late.
Speaker 2: I know, and I really tried to be on time, sir,
Speaker 2: but maybe if I could just sit in your office
Speaker 2: instead for the time, I was like really feeding into it.
Speaker 2: But anyway, he wrote me a note and gave me
Speaker 2: permission to go back to the class, which, of course,
Speaker 2: then I dially dalied around for forty minutes and finally
Speaker 2: I went back to the class and said, yeah, there's
Speaker 2: there's a note from the deputy principal, so shove it.
Speaker 1: And then anyway, remember having fucking double like double something
Speaker 1: like when you had double matt never had that. I'm
Speaker 1: not hating that so much. When you looked at your
Speaker 1: fucking timetable, it was like double mass and double science,
Speaker 1: it was like, you're in there for double the amount
Speaker 1: of time.
Speaker 2: We never had that fuck that.
Speaker 1: I remember one thing that we got into a house
Speaker 1: doing at school. I don't know if you did this
Speaker 1: at your school, but in summer, you know how they
Speaker 1: have like fans in the classroom, like throwing things at
Speaker 1: the fan and watching a ping around the room. But
Speaker 1: you try and do it when the teacher's not booking,
Speaker 1: so then they turn around, they absolutely blow up and
Speaker 1: we got real bad. Like it became a thing with
Speaker 1: our class. I was in a shit class, like I
Speaker 1: wasn't in a good class, and then we'd throw like
Speaker 1: bits of food and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just sad, we're just lying around the focus classroom,
Speaker 2: no wonder. The teachers would absolutely lose it.
Speaker 1: But it was a fucking highlight of my school date.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I did once? It is in
Speaker 2: my English class. I don't know why I did this,
Speaker 2: but this is this is how weird I was in
Speaker 2: year seven. Okay, so like in Y seven, obviously I
Speaker 2: struggled to make friends. Hello, no one wants to be
Speaker 2: friends with a gay kid, and I thought, I'm going
Speaker 2: to do something it's gonna get everyone on board. So
Speaker 2: what I did is I bought colored paper and I
Speaker 2: cut up the colored paper into tiny, tiny, thousands of
Speaker 2: pieces of tiny paper, and I sat it all and
Speaker 2: I broke in through the because you could break in
Speaker 2: through the windows of our classrooms like they just slid
Speaker 2: open on the weekend. No, no, no, like at lunchtime
Speaker 2: and we had like English fifth period, so after lunch,
Speaker 2: and so at lunchtime, I snuck into the out of
Speaker 2: bounds area and I broke into the classroom and I
Speaker 2: put thousands and thousands of pieces of paper on the fans.
Speaker 2: It was summer. And then I turned the heater on
Speaker 2: and I left, and then we had English and we
Speaker 2: come in the room is boiling hot. Missus like Tcher's like,
Speaker 2: why is it so hot? In ears left the heater on,
Speaker 2: turns the heater off. She goes, sorry, we I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to turn the fans on, urns of fans on.
Speaker 2: The confetti that I've put on the fans goes all
Speaker 2: over everyone in the room, and I'm sitting there like
Speaker 2: this is so good, right, this is so good. Everyone
Speaker 2: was like what the fuck is that was so angry,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I can't say a thing because
Speaker 2: I thought everyone I thought it was going to get
Speaker 2: everyone on board. Everyone's going to be my friend because
Speaker 2: I had like prankd the class and done something so
Speaker 2: fun and everyone hated it. And obviously I like wore
Speaker 2: the guilty look on my face and everyone figured out
Speaker 2: that it was me because I wasn't a good liar.
Speaker 2: And yeah, then everyone just hated me. Still have loved it,
Speaker 2: so oh God, just sticking to the wall. Well, I'm
Speaker 2: glad you didn't join the army because I imagine, imagine,
Speaker 2: I just think that's not very you.
Speaker 1: You know, know what was me back then? I was
Speaker 1: so desperate to leave school.
Speaker 2: What I feel like you've always had like really boring jobs,
Speaker 2: Like what what other jobs have you had? Like I've
Speaker 2: had exciting jobs, you know. Like I worked at a
Speaker 2: water park as a lifeguard. I wasn't even accredited, but
Speaker 2: they let me work there anyway, And I was getting
Speaker 2: twenty dollars an hour cash in hand. And I was
Speaker 2: like twelve years old. No, I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how old it was. No, this is when I
Speaker 2: was nineteen. When I was twelve, though, I worked at
Speaker 2: a carnival on the clowns, you know, you put the
Speaker 2: clown the ping pong ball in the clowns. Worked there
Speaker 2: also operated the Merry Go Round as a thirteen year old.
Speaker 2: Definitely not allowed. But you know, I grew up on
Speaker 2: the Central Coast, so things, you know, no one work
Speaker 2: help in safety. What the fuck is that? So worked
Speaker 2: in a water park out the back of Batto Pub
Speaker 2: and the water slide, the water slides they'd bring in
Speaker 2: and they were inflatable, so they'd just blow up the
Speaker 2: water slides. And I literally no, I did so I
Speaker 2: had to save again, no accreditation. I don't even know
Speaker 2: how I got this job. I have no idea. I
Speaker 2: think I was so oh, because that's right, I was
Speaker 2: working somewhere. Oh, I got a job in a call
Speaker 2: center and I was working in Sydney. This is in
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, and so I was, yeah, this is when
Speaker 2: I was nineteen. I was working in Sydney at a
Speaker 2: call center. And then I got fired for being gay.
Speaker 2: It's a long story, but like it's a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: But also I overheard a conversation where they were like
Speaker 2: not being nice about me being gay, and then suddenly
Speaker 2: the same day I also got fired. And anyway, because
Speaker 2: I wasn't like really flamboyant back then, and then when
Speaker 2: they figured it out. I don't know. I think the
Speaker 2: call center was run by maybe a religious group of
Speaker 2: some sort. But anyway, the point is I had lost
Speaker 2: that job or they were going to fire me, and
Speaker 2: then I quit anyway, and it was all a big thing.
Speaker 2: I lost that job and didn't have a job for
Speaker 2: nine months. It was like a ruggar ling. And so
Speaker 2: when this water park came to the local pub, I
Speaker 2: desperately went there, I think, and was like, can I
Speaker 2: please have a job? And they gave me one. It
Speaker 2: was great. I'd get half priced off dagwood dogs, yeah,
Speaker 2: Pluto pups and anyway, the water slights would blow up,
Speaker 2: and literally I would have to sit at the top
Speaker 2: of one of the blow up like a jumping castle.
Speaker 2: Imagine a jumping castle. I'd sit at the top of
Speaker 2: the jumping castle that had a pool at the bottom.
Speaker 2: How big is this?
Speaker 1: Seeing?
Speaker 2: Like huge? Like there were huge, huge ones, you know,
Speaker 2: those ones like on water, like the big inflat of
Speaker 2: ones on the water like that. No it's on the
Speaker 2: back lawn, but they've got they've set up on these pools. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm at the top with a fucking garden hose spraying
Speaker 2: it on the slide. For these fucking three year olds
Speaker 2: to slide down it, and I'm sitting at the top
Speaker 2: and multiple times there is I could probably find someone.
Speaker 2: I'll probably find something and put it on on my
Speaker 2: story or something, but I'd have to multiple times. The
Speaker 2: water slides would either the generator would go off or
Speaker 2: they'd get a hole in them and they would deflate.
Speaker 2: And I am there multiple times throughout this summer. I'm
Speaker 2: at the top of the water slide and you just
Speaker 2: knew because you heard the generator go off and you
Speaker 2: just feel the jumping castle sort of things start to deflate.
Speaker 2: I've got to get down. Three kids up in my
Speaker 2: on my shoulders, round my neck, and I'm running down
Speaker 2: this deflating jumping castle water slide fucking thing. We are
Speaker 2: getting crushed. Parents of screaming for their kids. I'm screaming
Speaker 2: as on I got them. It's all good again. No accreditation,
Speaker 2: but I was just like, it's all good, We're all good.
Speaker 2: And because they were just it was like one of
Speaker 2: those water parks they would just hire all the backpackers.
Speaker 2: So every single other person who worked at the water
Speaker 2: park was German, and I couldn't understand a word any
Speaker 2: of and they had no idea what I was saying either.
Speaker 2: And I remember one night on the final night. On
Speaker 2: the final night, we all because you know, the water
Speaker 2: park would close at like five o'clock because obviously you
Speaker 2: just want it throughout the day. Then we kept them
Speaker 2: all up instead of packing them all down, and we
Speaker 2: all like went on the water sides and then had
Speaker 2: a big like piss up and bonfire out there and
Speaker 2: all the rest of that, and had like a big yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just keep visiting this at bad O Bay.
Speaker 2: The funniest thing is Brittany because of the language barrier.
Speaker 2: I was just getting drunk by myself and everyone's trying
Speaker 2: to have conversations with each other, but I can't understand
Speaker 2: their German accents or German in general. It was very
Speaker 2: broken English, and like, just imagine being at a party
Speaker 2: when no one else speaks your language and you're getting
Speaker 2: absolutely drunk and going on water slides with everyone, but
Speaker 2: no one can talk to each other. Like it was
Speaker 2: just the weirdest experience of my life. Anyway, That's probably
Speaker 2: the weirdest job I had. But what's the weirdest job
Speaker 2: you had.
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of random jobs I had over
Speaker 1: twenty jobs from the ages of fourteen to twenty one,
Speaker 1: and I lied on my resume completely because I obviously
Speaker 1: wasn't going to keep all of them on there. The
Speaker 1: most random one that I had, like we've already spoken
Speaker 1: about me working at Ozzie Bush Camp, so everyone already
Speaker 1: knows that I was a sports instructor for school kids
Speaker 1: at Assi Bush Camp. That was pretty random. The other
Speaker 1: random one was probably when I was sixteen, So when
Speaker 1: I dropped out of school, I was waitressing, like I've
Speaker 1: been working at this restaurant for ages. And then I
Speaker 1: got a second job, which I thought was like full on,
Speaker 1: full time job, but it was selling os Star, which
Speaker 1: is Foxtel, but for people that lived in areas that
Speaker 1: Foxtel wouldn't service, so more like regional areas would get Ostar.
Speaker 1: You would know that Hannah in Bloody wherever.
Speaker 2: You're gone, Dubbo.
Speaker 1: So I got this job and with oz Star, I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like now, but back then, like
Speaker 1: external third party companies would become like the salespeople for Ostar,
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't working directly for oz Stars, working for
Speaker 1: some MLM quite literally at MLM, but they sold it
Speaker 1: to me like I was a sales associate, and I
Speaker 1: would get on the train because I didn't I was
Speaker 1: on my l's. I'd get on the train every morning
Speaker 1: at the fucking crack of dawn from Hamilton and Newcastle
Speaker 1: and I'd go out to Maitland, which is like I
Speaker 1: don't know what, thirty forty minutes on a train because
Speaker 1: that's where their little head office was, and then i'd
Speaker 1: go in there, we'd do our morning team meeting, and
Speaker 1: then we'd put on the gear like Ostar, like shirt
Speaker 1: and hat and whatever, and then we'd jump into cars
Speaker 1: and carpool out to like the local shopping centers, so
Speaker 1: like green Hills, Rutherford, like random fucking shopping centers and
Speaker 1: like those little ones that just had like a butcher
Speaker 1: and coals and stuff. And then we would set up
Speaker 1: in the middle of the shopping center with our table
Speaker 1: and put the cloth on it and all the pamphlets
Speaker 1: that we'd have, and then I would stand there all
Speaker 1: day trying to fucking stop people and get them to
Speaker 1: sign up to a twelve or twenty four month contract
Speaker 1: for Ostar. Mind you, I'm sixteen, and.
Speaker 2: Could you even be like facilitating signing of contracts?
Speaker 1: At that ay and knows back then, but the company
Speaker 1: was so dodgy. I think they ended up getting in
Speaker 1: a heap of trouble down the track. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of companies like that.
Speaker 2: Is it actually an MLM? Yes?
Speaker 1: Because I was not getting paid by the hour, right,
Speaker 1: I was only working for commission, okay, And then the
Speaker 1: guys that I was working with kind of like owned
Speaker 1: the MLM company that I was working for, and like
Speaker 1: they were pushy, so like I'd be talking to a
Speaker 1: customer and then they'd like steal the customer off you
Speaker 1: and like get the sale. And I only worked there
Speaker 1: for honestly, like three or four weeks, and then like
Speaker 1: there was weeks where I would earn zero dollars and
Speaker 1: I was working full time what because like, do you
Speaker 1: know how hard it is to fucking stop someone that's
Speaker 1: just gone to Woolies to get a few things and
Speaker 1: sign them up to a twenty four month contract. Mind you,
Speaker 1: this is before Netflix anything like that, so it was
Speaker 1: more popular for people to have foxtail and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But it was really fucking hard. And I'd say, that's
Speaker 1: the most random job that I have ever had, And
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm confident now. But I couldn't do
Speaker 1: that for a job now, So I don't know how
Speaker 1: at sixteen I actually had the fucking courage to stop
Speaker 1: people in the middle of the shops and be like, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to sign up to this twenty four
Speaker 1: month contract?
Speaker 2: I couldn't do any of that. When I worked at Domino,
Speaker 2: so used to ask me to go and stand on
Speaker 2: the side of the road and wave the big sign.
Speaker 2: I'd do that no way.
Speaker 1: I saw someone doing it, a new Guzman that opened
Speaker 1: near us the other day, and I was like.
Speaker 2: Also, speaking of MLMs, can I admit something to you
Speaker 2: just before you wrap up this podcast?
Speaker 1: What MLM? Did you sign up? Finally signed up to
Speaker 1: a few in my day, I used.
Speaker 2: To be part of MLM allegedly, I guess. I don't
Speaker 2: know if we can. I don't know if you're allowed
Speaker 2: to call them actual MLMs and pyramid schemes, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're like we'll say allegedly, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: But anyway, I don't actually mind that I did this,
Speaker 2: because I actually don't regret it. I was a a
Speaker 2: consultant for the body shop at home.
Speaker 1: Yees see, I feel like the body shop is one
Speaker 1: that I can excuse ye, right, that's what I thought,
Speaker 1: too good, Like they had their at home thing. My
Speaker 1: cousin was one too, and she did really well. See
Speaker 1: I can like forgive a few of them, like tup aware.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's fine, Yeah, you can be allegedly MLM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like nutrienttics back in the day in Avon, like our
Speaker 1: mums used to have, but all the others Now.
Speaker 2: We were a tup of ware household. Like if it
Speaker 2: wasn't type of weir mum wouldn't have it in the house.
Speaker 2: She was obsessed with tupperware. And the thing is that
Speaker 2: she's still or the type of war yeah thirty years later,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I was MLM. I was MLM. I was
Speaker 2: a consultant for the body shop at home. I actually
Speaker 2: loved it. I was literally going to people's houses and
Speaker 2: doing body shop. We go, We're going Mango, yeah, Mango,
Speaker 2: body butter now. And then I'd have to get in
Speaker 2: my car and go and drop everyone's body shop products
Speaker 2: off to them. And I did it because I worked
Speaker 2: at the body shop. And then my contract ended and
Speaker 2: I was only there for like Christmas casual and then it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel as MLMY because they have their stores and
Speaker 1: they got their stores.
Speaker 2: They're good products, and I never signed anyone up. I
Speaker 2: wasn't about that. I loved the Body Shop back then.
Speaker 2: I was like, so I wanted to sell the products
Speaker 2: and wanted discounted products for myself as well. I was like,
Speaker 2: well I get a discount. I genuinely was like, the
Speaker 2: Body Shop products are freaking fantastic, so.
Speaker 1: So g body butters. I wanted to do.
Speaker 2: That, so I didn't mind, and I don't think it's
Speaker 2: very MLM in my opinion, Like it obviously is like
Speaker 2: they definitely had a big push on that and they
Speaker 2: had ended all that though, haven't they. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 2: do any of that anymore. But I never signed up
Speaker 2: anyone up. I was never into doing any of that.
Speaker 2: I was just in it for myself and obviously that's
Speaker 2: how you make the big bucks, and I absolutely didn't.
Speaker 2: I remember I would again do those parties and after
Speaker 2: getting my commission, maybe walk away with what one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty dollars. It's like all that work, dropping everyone's
Speaker 2: stuff off, and then the order is actually setting up
Speaker 2: the party, going there, hosting the whole.
Speaker 1: Party, making sure your kids full you know, like.
Speaker 2: The hours compared to the return on the investment wasn't great.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, I know this sounds bad, but
Speaker 2: we should start.
Speaker 3: An MLAM because I can love to because that's the
Speaker 3: only way. All those people you see who have made millions,
Speaker 3: they're one of the first ten people in the company,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because they're just making money
Speaker 3: off the.
Speaker 2: Thousands of others. I feel like that's what we need
Speaker 2: to do, is just create an MLM. I have some ideas.
Speaker 2: We'll go over them in another episode or brainstorm them.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, everyone can look forward to our new
Speaker 1: MLM that we're starting. And because you've listened this far
Speaker 1: in this episode, you are already signed up to the MLA.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, So pay us four hundred fifty nine dollars.
Speaker 1: Is that how much is to sign up?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah. And is it like you've got to
Speaker 2: get your kit, You've got to get your kid with all.
Speaker 1: Is it like a nearly paid just.
Speaker 2: The one kid, and you've got to top it up? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: got to top it up.
Speaker 1: And we'll be coming out with new things for your
Speaker 1: kid every month, and you have to buy the new yeah, yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: We're going to be billionaires. Dell can't wait. Other Kylie Jenner.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it for another Close Friends episode. Matt any
Speaker 1: final words, Okay, see your love yea bye,