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Speaker 1: I'm Britney Saunders and I'm all right hey, and Matt,

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Speaker 1: you sound so depressed.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm you know what, put it.

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Speaker 1: On fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes, Matt, and you can go

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Speaker 1: home to sleep.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going on to save word, bitch. I'm Britney

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Speaker 2: Saunders and I'm all.

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Speaker 1: Right hey, and you have made your way onto our

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Speaker 1: close friends because.

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Speaker 2: You don't put the juiciest gouff on your main story. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: keep it for your color. That's friends.

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Speaker 1: You're really on one today.

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Speaker 2: I am you. Yeah, I'm feeling so good and so

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Speaker 2: happy and so fabulous. That's exactly what these episodes are.

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Speaker 2: Par Sole's I don't even know, come on, duh, let's

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Speaker 2: get into it.

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Speaker 1: We spoke on the main episode about something and it

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Speaker 1: got it got me going into a story. But then

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Speaker 1: we said, hang on a second, let's keep it for

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Speaker 1: this did you ever do work experience in school?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I think it was when you were doing one of

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Speaker 1: the TAFE courses as a subject in school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, never did any of that. Couldn't be bothered. I

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Speaker 2: was like, I'm not putting in an extra effort.

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Speaker 1: So I was doing business services, which is a TAFE course.

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Speaker 1: Don't know what the fuck certificate that is. I think

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Speaker 1: it was like I learn how to write on the

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Speaker 1: outside of envelope. Like what we learned, like how to

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Speaker 1: correctly put the person's name, address, where to put the postcode,

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Speaker 1: where to put the stamp?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding? No, that's a TAFE course.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what was one of the parts of it.

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Speaker 2: They are pulling my fucking leg. That is not what

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Speaker 2: did you learn?

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Speaker 1: It was over ten years ago, so it obviously wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be the same now now it's probably like how to

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Speaker 1: send an email?

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Speaker 2: No, that's not real and what? But my thing is,

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Speaker 2: why were you in it? I understand some people might

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Speaker 2: need to learn how to because it was like a thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was deep down maybe knowing that I was going

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Speaker 1: to be in business one day. That's why I picked

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Speaker 1: business services. I don't know what it was I just

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Speaker 1: didn't want to do any of the normal topics at school,

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Speaker 1: so I just picked anything. Anyway, when you do those

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Speaker 1: tape courses through your school subjects, you have to go

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Speaker 1: and do two rounds of work experience to complete the course,

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Speaker 1: one week at one place, one week at another place,

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Speaker 1: and the school chooses where you go. You don't get

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Speaker 1: to pick where you go. And with business services, it

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Speaker 1: was a lot of like learning admin and stuff like

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Speaker 1: working in an office role and all that kind of shit,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know why I thought I'd be fucking

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Speaker 1: interested in that. What I kind of work, just sitting

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Speaker 1: in an office, I'll go crazy. I tried it, trust me.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I got given my one week. I think

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Speaker 1: it was the first week of it, because you do

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Speaker 1: it like at two different times of the year, and

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Speaker 1: at the Army Reserves in Newcastle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you said this in the main episode,

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Speaker 2: I thought, we're going to get a story.

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Speaker 1: I am telling you a story, I know.

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Speaker 2: But I was. I thought I didn't realize you were

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Speaker 2: going to be doing admin at the Army. I'm expecting

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Speaker 2: you to tell me you was doing all the guns

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Speaker 2: to just see your climb and that.

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Speaker 1: So at this same time, I was trying to work

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Speaker 1: out what I wanted to do for a career because

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Speaker 1: my school was fucking going ham on us, saying, you

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Speaker 1: me then getting put at the Army Reserves for my

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Speaker 1: work experience. So I remember thinking admin at the Army,

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Speaker 1: like what the fuck? Like I didn't even think that

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Speaker 1: doing their ADMIN. And so I go there. I'm fifteen

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Speaker 1: me that I am today. I'm like this shy school girl. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I go into the Army Reserves. It's the most bland

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Speaker 1: like I've worked in plenty of them. And I get

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Speaker 1: put with a sergeant of this Army Reserves. And it

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Speaker 1: like she fucking you could tell she was an Army sergeant.

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Speaker 2: She was so she was working in admin though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like running the office and maybe like running the reserves.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. This was so long ago. Fuck, this

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Speaker 1: is like fifteen years ago. That's so odd. Anyway, I

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Speaker 1: But I very quickly noticed. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: like the army in general, they hate, well, they hated

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Speaker 1: the general population. What it was very very much like

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Speaker 1: they were different to us on the outside and they

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Speaker 1: were referring to all of us on the outside as civies.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, civilians.

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Speaker 1: And very quickly because we were just kind of sitting

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Speaker 1: and it just felt the vibes were so off, Like

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Speaker 1: I was like I couldn't wait to fucking go home.

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Speaker 1: And I had the whole week there and this was

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Speaker 1: the Monday, and they were just like talking down about

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Speaker 1: don't want to generalize the people of the army. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know. This is like traditionally how they talk

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Speaker 1: about like the civis, but I don't know, maybe someone

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Speaker 1: was very negative and like I couldn't wait to get

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Speaker 1: I absolutely hated it. I think it's more like just

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Speaker 1: the people were bringing the vibes down. Mind you, I'm

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Speaker 1: fifteen years old, I'm not fit, I'm not doing sport

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Speaker 1: or anything. Then this big other sergeant guy comes in.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm so intimidated. Can you imagine, Like they're all

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Speaker 1: in their fucking uniforms with everything, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well around all the full take to my hand like yeah,

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Speaker 1: like being all serious. And then so it turns out

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Speaker 1: that every morning, it doesn't matter what role you do

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Speaker 1: it's the same now, this is fifteen years ago. But

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Speaker 2: Did you have to do that?

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Speaker 1: So this guy comes in on the Monday, nice to

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Speaker 1: meet you blah blah blah. So tomorrow, because I think

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Speaker 1: to do like the boot camp and like the obstacle

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Speaker 1: I'll be there.

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Speaker 2: No worries.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, worst day of my life. Went home and I

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Speaker 2: Did you do the boot can the next day?

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Speaker 2: She never went back.

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Speaker 1: I wopped for the rest of the week and I

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Speaker 1: just you whopped?

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Speaker 2: Wagged? What does mean? That's what we called there's a

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Speaker 2: different there's a different meaning for wop. In twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: I was like, you wopped.

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Speaker 1: That's what we used to call it wop in school.

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Speaker 2: No, we called it wagging.

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Speaker 1: Yes, same thing, that's what we called it.

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Speaker 2: Would you call it Hannah wagging? What do you call

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Speaker 1: We called it whopping. So anyway, I was that mortified

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Speaker 1: from that day at the Army Reserves that I said

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Speaker 1: to my mum, I'm not going back there, And because

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Speaker 2: Give a fuck, and so I just chazzy.

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Speaker 1: I just simply didn't go back for the rest of

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Speaker 2: Go to school again.

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Speaker 1: Ever, you must have been the start of me Quentin

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Speaker 1: school and my school, like the army rang my my

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Speaker 1: school the next morning to be like where is she?

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Speaker 1: And then my school my school rang my mom?

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Speaker 2: Are you going for a career's expo to the army,

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Speaker 2: to the army making you drop out of school? But

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Speaker 2: not because you're joining the army, because you just had

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Speaker 2: such a bad day at the army that you decided

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Speaker 2: to just change your entire trajectory in life and go nah.

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Speaker 1: Hat anyway, So it wasn't because of that. Like I

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Speaker 1: hated school. I had the worst attendance record, but I

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Speaker 1: remember them ringing my.

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Speaker 2: School in the school once. Not one time did I wag.

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Speaker 2: The only time I skipped was when I had an awful,

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Speaker 2: awful teacher for legal studies and he was just horrible

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Speaker 2: to me all year, Like one of those teachers where

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Speaker 2: like I would not talk. But my friend was talking

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Speaker 2: to me the entire time, and I've got direct eye

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Speaker 2: just zoning in on him. I'm letting him know I

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Speaker 2: am listening respectively. My friend is the one being disrespectful.

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Speaker 2: I would literally, after ten minutes, go, I just need

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Speaker 2: you to be quiet, and he'd go down my classroom

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Speaker 2: like he just hated me. And I literally always did

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong. And then one day I showed up really late,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, then everyone just hated me. Still have loved it,

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Speaker 2: I just think that's not very you.

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Speaker 1: You know, know what was me back then? I was

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Speaker 2: What I feel like you've always had like really boring jobs,

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Speaker 2: Like what what other jobs have you had? Like I've

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Speaker 2: Definitely not allowed. But you know, I grew up on

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Speaker 2: was great. I'd get half priced off dagwood dogs, yeah,

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Speaker 2: How big is this?

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Speaker 2: And I am there multiple times throughout this summer. I'm

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Speaker 2: And because they were just it was like one of

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Speaker 2: all the rest of that, and had like a big yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: The funniest thing is Brittany because of the language barrier.

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Speaker 2: when no one else speaks your language and you're getting

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Speaker 2: just the weirdest experience of my life. Anyway, That's probably

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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of random jobs I had over

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Speaker 1: I dropped out of school, I was waitressing, like I've

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Speaker 1: So I got this job and with oz Star, I

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Speaker 1: Like I wasn't working directly for oz Stars, working for

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Speaker 1: some MLM quite literally at MLM, but they sold it

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Speaker 1: on my l's. I'd get on the train every morning

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Speaker 1: go in there, we'd do our morning team meeting, and

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Speaker 1: then we'd put on the gear like Ostar, like shirt

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Speaker 1: and hat and whatever, and then we'd jump into cars

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Speaker 1: and carpool out to like the local shopping centers, so

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Speaker 1: like green Hills, Rutherford, like random fucking shopping centers and

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Speaker 1: like those little ones that just had like a butcher

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Speaker 1: and coals and stuff. And then we would set up

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the shopping center with our table

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Speaker 1: and put the cloth on it and all the pamphlets

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Speaker 1: that we'd have, and then I would stand there all

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Speaker 1: day trying to fucking stop people and get them to

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Speaker 1: sign up to a twelve or twenty four month contract

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Speaker 1: for Ostar. Mind you, I'm sixteen, and.

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Speaker 2: Could you even be like facilitating signing of contracts?

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Speaker 1: At that ay and knows back then, but the company

450
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Speaker 1: was so dodgy. I think they ended up getting in

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Speaker 1: a heap of trouble down the track. And there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of companies like that.

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Speaker 2: Is it actually an MLM? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Because I was not getting paid by the hour, right,

455
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Speaker 1: I was only working for commission, okay, And then the

456
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Speaker 1: guys that I was working with kind of like owned

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Speaker 1: the MLM company that I was working for, and like

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Speaker 1: they were pushy, so like I'd be talking to a

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Speaker 1: customer and then they'd like steal the customer off you

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Speaker 1: and like get the sale. And I only worked there

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Speaker 1: for honestly, like three or four weeks, and then like

462
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Speaker 1: there was weeks where I would earn zero dollars and

463
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Speaker 1: I was working full time what because like, do you

464
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Speaker 1: know how hard it is to fucking stop someone that's

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Speaker 1: just gone to Woolies to get a few things and

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Speaker 1: sign them up to a twenty four month contract. Mind you,

467
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Speaker 1: this is before Netflix anything like that, so it was

468
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Speaker 1: more popular for people to have foxtail and stuff like that.

469
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Speaker 1: But it was really fucking hard. And I'd say, that's

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Speaker 1: the most random job that I have ever had, And

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm confident now. But I couldn't do

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Speaker 1: that for a job now, So I don't know how

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Speaker 1: at sixteen I actually had the fucking courage to stop

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Speaker 1: people in the middle of the shops and be like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: do you want to sign up to this twenty four

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Speaker 1: month contract?

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Speaker 2: I couldn't do any of that. When I worked at Domino,

478
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Speaker 2: so used to ask me to go and stand on

479
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: the side of the road and wave the big sign.

480
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Speaker 2: I'd do that no way.

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Speaker 1: I saw someone doing it, a new Guzman that opened

482
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Speaker 1: near us the other day, and I was like.

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Speaker 2: Also, speaking of MLMs, can I admit something to you

484
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Speaker 2: just before you wrap up this podcast?

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Speaker 1: What MLM? Did you sign up? Finally signed up to

486
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: a few in my day, I used.

487
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Speaker 2: To be part of MLM allegedly, I guess. I don't

488
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Speaker 2: know if we can. I don't know if you're allowed

489
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Speaker 2: to call them actual MLMs and pyramid schemes, like, I

490
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Speaker 2: don't know if you're like we'll say allegedly, you know, yeah,

491
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Speaker 2: But anyway, I don't actually mind that I did this,

492
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Speaker 2: because I actually don't regret it. I was a a

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Speaker 2: consultant for the body shop at home.

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Speaker 1: Yees see, I feel like the body shop is one

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Speaker 1: that I can excuse ye, right, that's what I thought,

496
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Speaker 1: too good, Like they had their at home thing. My

497
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Speaker 1: cousin was one too, and she did really well. See

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Speaker 1: I can like forgive a few of them, like tup aware.

499
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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's fine, Yeah, you can be allegedly MLM. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like nutrienttics back in the day in Avon, like our

501
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: mums used to have, but all the others Now.

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Speaker 2: We were a tup of ware household. Like if it

503
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Speaker 2: wasn't type of weir mum wouldn't have it in the house.

504
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Speaker 2: She was obsessed with tupperware. And the thing is that

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Speaker 2: she's still or the type of war yeah thirty years later,

506
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Speaker 2: but yeah, I was MLM. I was MLM. I was

507
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Speaker 2: a consultant for the body shop at home. I actually

508
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: loved it. I was literally going to people's houses and

509
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Speaker 2: doing body shop. We go, We're going Mango, yeah, Mango,

510
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: body butter now. And then I'd have to get in

511
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Speaker 2: my car and go and drop everyone's body shop products

512
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Speaker 2: off to them. And I did it because I worked

513
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Speaker 2: at the body shop. And then my contract ended and

514
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Speaker 2: I was only there for like Christmas casual and then it.

515
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Speaker 1: Doesn't feel as MLMY because they have their stores and

516
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Speaker 1: they got their stores.

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Speaker 2: They're good products, and I never signed anyone up. I

518
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Speaker 2: wasn't about that. I loved the Body Shop back then.

519
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: I was like, so I wanted to sell the products

520
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: and wanted discounted products for myself as well. I was like,

521
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Speaker 2: well I get a discount. I genuinely was like, the

522
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Speaker 2: Body Shop products are freaking fantastic, so.

523
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Speaker 1: So g body butters. I wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: That, so I didn't mind, and I don't think it's

525
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Speaker 2: very MLM in my opinion, Like it obviously is like

526
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Speaker 2: they definitely had a big push on that and they

527
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Speaker 2: had ended all that though, haven't they. Yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 2: do any of that anymore. But I never signed up

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Speaker 2: anyone up. I was never into doing any of that.

530
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Speaker 2: I was just in it for myself and obviously that's

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Speaker 2: how you make the big bucks, and I absolutely didn't.

532
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: I remember I would again do those parties and after

533
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Speaker 2: getting my commission, maybe walk away with what one hundred

534
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: and forty dollars. It's like all that work, dropping everyone's

535
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Speaker 2: stuff off, and then the order is actually setting up

536
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Speaker 2: the party, going there, hosting the whole.

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Speaker 1: Party, making sure your kids full you know, like.

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Speaker 2: The hours compared to the return on the investment wasn't great.

539
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Speaker 2: But I feel like, I know this sounds bad, but

540
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Speaker 2: we should start.

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Speaker 3: An MLAM because I can love to because that's the

542
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Speaker 3: only way. All those people you see who have made millions,

543
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Speaker 3: they're one of the first ten people in the company,

544
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because they're just making money

545
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Speaker 3: off the.

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Speaker 2: Thousands of others. I feel like that's what we need

547
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Speaker 2: to do, is just create an MLM. I have some ideas.

548
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 2: We'll go over them in another episode or brainstorm them.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, everyone can look forward to our new

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Speaker 1: MLM that we're starting. And because you've listened this far

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Speaker 1: in this episode, you are already signed up to the MLA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, So pay us four hundred fifty nine dollars.

553
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: Is that how much is to sign up?

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00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah. And is it like you've got to

555
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: get your kit, You've got to get your kid with all.

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Speaker 1: Is it like a nearly paid just.

557
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: The one kid, and you've got to top it up? Yeah, okay,

558
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: got to top it up.

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00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: And we'll be coming out with new things for your

560
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: kid every month, and you have to buy the new yeah, yeah, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be billionaires. Dell can't wait. Other Kylie Jenner.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's it for another Close Friends episode. Matt any

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Speaker 1: final words, Okay, see your love yea bye,