WEBVTT - Am I The Toxic One?

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely dated my fair share of douchebags.

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<v Speaker 2>My time just get tinging balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm spiraling.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, tell us everything flame emojis, slept fright

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<v Speaker 3>and center.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt loves a bit of goth and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Need affection back. I really need you with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm jealous. I'm the most jealous person ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Relationships like a fart. If you have to force it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's probably shiit.

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<v Speaker 4>Hisity dot Com for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be a bloody single and alone with ten cats

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of my life. Lie. On today's episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Where's Your Head At, we will be discussing toxic

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<v Speaker 1>relationships and love bombing.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay tuned to find out if you are the toxic one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Matt, Hello Anna, how are you going?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going? Well, We're back for episode five.

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<v Speaker 3>Excited to get into this one. This one's got some

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<v Speaker 3>good stuff in there. Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, I mean, last week we asked everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>say a prayer for you at bed because you were

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<v Speaker 1>telling us that you had potentially met the one, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm dying for an update, So why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you give everyone an update?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first off, I'd like to thank everyone for keeping

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<v Speaker 3>me in their prayers. It's it's obviously works because yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going really well. So yeah, so we're still tracking along. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>after our the first magical date, we've we hung out

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<v Speaker 3>for forty eight hours and then for another week on stop.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've decided to take our foot off.

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<v Speaker 3>The gas and like maybe take a couple of steps

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<v Speaker 3>back and keep hanging out or keep like catching up,

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<v Speaker 3>but not as intense.

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<v Speaker 1>So quickly, so not going zero to one hundred, going

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<v Speaker 1>zero to.

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<v Speaker 3>Like eighty five ninety ninety nine, not as intense, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's still intense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still very much true to that just.

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<v Speaker 2>Going falls to the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And I'm really I really enjoy her company, So

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<v Speaker 3>why would I not want to hang out with it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, exactly, if you're happy, I'm happy, We're all happy

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<v Speaker 1>for you. It's just a collective happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me, is there any red flags? Because obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have been hanging out quite a lot. Yeap, Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything that's kind of come up for you where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I'm not really sure about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say that I've seen any red flags, but

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<v Speaker 3>she might have a red flag with me. I think

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<v Speaker 3>she's assured me that it's not, but I'm like, oh, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk about it. So she how do I put this?

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't a fan of my kissing style? She's not, which

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<v Speaker 3>to me was absolutely I was gobsmacked. In my twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six years or how long I've been kissing for I

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<v Speaker 3>have never had a bad review, and you'd know firsthand.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you kissed you well, your friend

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<v Speaker 3>which said I'm a really good kisser.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah that's true. Matt did kiss my friend and

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<v Speaker 1>she said he was a good kisser.

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<v Speaker 3>And this comes off the back as well of another

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<v Speaker 3>girl I was seeing that said I wasn't a good kisser.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happened to you that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know? Have I gotten lazy? Have I gotten sloppy?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So I asked what's going on? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how am I a bad kisser? And she just.

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<v Speaker 1>Said the wait did she frame it? Saying hey, like

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<v Speaker 1>FYI you're a pretty bad kisser.

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<v Speaker 3>We were pretty drunk and we're making out and she said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>The truth always comes out when you're drunk as well, so.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I was like, what do you mean I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing it wrong? And then she just explained she wants

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<v Speaker 3>this top lip to be like this, and then it's

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<v Speaker 3>hungue here and there, and I was like what's I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, okay, I can make at work blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we get yeah. So look, I've been every

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<v Speaker 3>movie that I've watched since then, every rom com when

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<v Speaker 3>they start making out, I've just been intensely kissing style

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, hang on, what are they doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they doing that? I'm not kidding. Yeah, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying that you've never had anyone say this to you

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<v Speaker 1>from whenever you had your first kiss, back when you

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<v Speaker 1>were probably like fourteen, was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Around then fourteen and now the last two people that

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<v Speaker 1>you've kissed, I've been like, what the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So the other one said my lips were a bit dry.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, nah, I've hit I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on, Like I said, maybe I'm getting lazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I just need to practice a bit more on

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<v Speaker 3>my pillow.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what Jesus, that's back into kissing training. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get an update on that next week and see how

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<v Speaker 1>it's going. That's back in school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but enough about me. Let's talk about you and

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<v Speaker 3>how you're exclusive with your lad.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that thing going?

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<v Speaker 1>My lad? I love it. There's just so many terms

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<v Speaker 1>for it. He's my man, my lad, my blow old mate,

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<v Speaker 1>old mate. Yeah. I mean, look, it's going well. As

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<v Speaker 1>I said last episode, we're exclusive. We did have a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a road bump.

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<v Speaker 3>How big was this bump? Is it a speed bump

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<v Speaker 3>or was it just a little like that just drove

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<v Speaker 3>over and kept driving.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lump that you like, drove over and

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<v Speaker 1>it gave you like a bit of a like jerked you, Jake.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, basically what happened was we went out

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<v Speaker 1>for some drinks. We were both pretty dry, so date night.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a date night, yeah, and we were both

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<v Speaker 1>pretty drunk. And you know what it's like, as you

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<v Speaker 1>said before, the truth comes out when you're drunk, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least that's what I thought anyway. So we had

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<v Speaker 1>been exclusive for about four days, four days, four days,

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<v Speaker 1>so this was fresh after fresh, after we recorded the

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<v Speaker 1>last and yeah, we were drunk. Then we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>have a really late dinner, and at dinner, in his

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<v Speaker 1>drunken state and my drunken state, he gave me this speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to repeat this speech? Just try and

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<v Speaker 2>make it less.

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<v Speaker 1>Less slurr more articulate. And the speech went a little

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<v Speaker 1>something like I really like you, I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>really like me. Why be exclusive when we should just

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<v Speaker 1>be official? I feel like that's so we're going anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so we might as well just be boyfriend and girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>So we asked, don't get too excited yet, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Say you heard it here first everyone, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, don't clap yeah, And he was like, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you say?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I said, well, okay. Initially I was a bit like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've only just become exclusive, but this speech was so

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<v Speaker 1>compelling that I was like, you're so right, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, like, why even being exclusive? We should just

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<v Speaker 1>be boyfriend and girlfriend? Like we're both on the same page, YadA.

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<v Speaker 2>YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we were both doing a zero to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred mat. I mean even to the point where I

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<v Speaker 1>like I called like a couple of friends that night,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I've got a boyfriend. But as

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine, like my drunkness level was quite high,

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<v Speaker 1>as was his. So so you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were calling all your friends and family telling.

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<v Speaker 1>Him I called, I called two friends. Anyway, the next morning,

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<v Speaker 1>we woke up very hungover, might I add like very

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<v Speaker 1>capital v e H why hungover? And I turned around

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<v Speaker 1>and looked at him and I was like, are we

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like no, and I was like and

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<v Speaker 1>so basically we decided to take it back. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours and then

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<v Speaker 1>we were like.

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<v Speaker 2>Another one bites the dust. Anna.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, it's my shortest relationship that I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 3>Another breakup. How are you finding the breakup? You need

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<v Speaker 3>to go back and listen to episode two for some advice.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I was thinking about heading back to episode two

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<v Speaker 4>and taking listen.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a moving on technique. Yeah no, but in

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<v Speaker 1>all seriousness, yeah, I just said to him, look like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to be boyfriend and girlfriend. And I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really know how I felt about it, but then

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, yeah, it's probably way too soon. And

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<v Speaker 1>although I agreed, with him. A part of me was like, ow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited last night, and then I proceeded to

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<v Speaker 1>get on the text with my friends and say, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, that was a twelve hour relationship and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>back to being exclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So he's asked you to be his girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and then taken it back.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what I'm asking. Is that toxic? Is that

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<v Speaker 3>toxic behavior?

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<v Speaker 1>Look?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a red flag? Even I don't really.

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<v Speaker 1>Know if it's toxic. I think it was more of

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<v Speaker 1>a case that sometimes when you're drunk and you really

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<v Speaker 1>like someone, you just get a bit carried away. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we both got a bit carried away. We

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<v Speaker 1>became sober human beings and maybe decided that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a reason why we became exclusive, and that was to

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<v Speaker 1>try and take things slow and not to rush it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like rushing can sometimes be toxic. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I feel like, is it toxic? I'm gonna say no,

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<v Speaker 1>but it did sting a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, at least you know that he's intense there and

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<v Speaker 3>that he has been your boyfriend. I guess do we

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<v Speaker 3>say that is what you say?

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<v Speaker 1>He was a twelve hours Yeah, I at least I

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<v Speaker 1>know that in those twelve hours he was a great boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>so he passed the test and being a boyfriend. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, moving forward, we won't have that chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Until you know it's the right time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the right time, and we've both agreed that if

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have that chat, we will be sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's probably a smart idea.

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<v Speaker 1>But in saying that, let's get into our toxic relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, all right, first of all, how does it feel

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<v Speaker 3>to be in a toxic relationship?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, some of the things that you might feel

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<v Speaker 1>if you are in a toxic relationship is you might

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<v Speaker 1>feel suffocated, you feel undervalued, underloved, just generally annoyed by

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<v Speaker 1>your partner in the situation that you're in. You might

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<v Speaker 1>feel their competitive with you or you're competitive with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think just generally negative about the relationship. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a good feeling. And I know that we

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<v Speaker 1>have both been in toxic relationships, so we know first

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<v Speaker 1>and how it feels, and honestly, it sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I've been in a couple of relationships and

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<v Speaker 3>I have definitely been in one that was toxic, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely it tears away.

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<v Speaker 3>At you as a person because I feel like you

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<v Speaker 3>have so much love and so much like you want

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<v Speaker 3>to give that person so much, and then there's just

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<v Speaker 3>so much toxicity and so much just stuff that happens. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>So there's signs that you can look for that you

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<v Speaker 3>are in a toxic relationship, and I think some of

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<v Speaker 3>them are where there's a lack of support from your partner.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't feel like they've got your back and they're

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<v Speaker 3>supporting your goals.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. I think another one is there's just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of toxic communication. So there's sarcasm or there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of criticism and you just feel very belittled.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess they just talk to you with a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of respect in general and.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk down to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, also jealousy and competitiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's controlling behaviors or walking on eggshells. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you might do things to try and make them feel

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<v Speaker 1>good and nothing is ever really good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I learned how to walk on eggshells. I was

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<v Speaker 3>walking on my Tiffy toasts for a year straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Me got very good at that.

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<v Speaker 3>They ignore your needs so they don't care about your

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<v Speaker 3>like your love language or what you need from that relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very selfish and they focus mostly on what they need.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think it's interesting, Like I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who were in toxic relationships they hold

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<v Speaker 1>onto these good times and there's actually not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them, but they view their partner in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>like those good qualities, but most of the time they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually not great to them. They're actually not a good partner,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not a good communicator. They make you feel like shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and you hold onto these small memories in the hopes

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to change, and that hope for change

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<v Speaker 1>is something that's so toxic because that's not who that

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<v Speaker 1>per person is core.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a reality. You're living in a fairy tale

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<v Speaker 3>world where you think that they're going to change, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're not. Yeah, before you know it, years months have

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<v Speaker 3>passed by, you're still in a toxic relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and I have definitely been there. We've discussed this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like with our toxic relationships, we were constantly hoping for

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<v Speaker 1>change and constantly wanting that person to be the person

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<v Speaker 1>like the twenty percent good that they were not the

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<v Speaker 1>eighty percent bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that mean just threw them under a bus there

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, Like we were also talking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that when you have a partner and

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't compatible and things get really toxic, like you

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<v Speaker 1>also become toxic.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, So I feel like I'm no, I'm no angel, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got my I've got my flaws.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like when I was dating someone that

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<v Speaker 2>was toxic, I fought toxic with toxic behave.

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<v Speaker 3>Because yah, just normal thing. It wasn't going to cut it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I had to be toxic. I had to talk

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<v Speaker 3>down like I had to be match that or else

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<v Speaker 3>I would have just got walked all over and would

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<v Speaker 3>have just been treated like shit constantly. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't it's not good. It didn't sit well with me

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't like being that person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not me, And I think, yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>an important point. Like I have had two very different relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>a really healthy relationship and a very unhealthy relationship in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, and it's just so crazy to see how

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<v Speaker 1>your partner can bring out the absolute best in you

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<v Speaker 1>or the absolute worst in you. And that's why it's

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<v Speaker 1>so damaging being in those toxic relationships because you actually

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<v Speaker 1>become a really bad version of yourself. Like I know,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, when I was in a toxic relationship, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really like the person who I was. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like fighting fire with fire and being in constant conflicts.

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<v Speaker 1>Like none of us want to do that. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to be happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you're our friends and family pointed out to you,

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<v Speaker 3>because I remember pointing it out to you. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it's good to see now that you've left that

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<v Speaker 3>that you're back to being Anna just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like happy and happy visibly and yeah, like you after

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<v Speaker 1>like coming out of a toxic relationship, you people look

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<v Speaker 1>at you and they're like, oh, you're back to your

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<v Speaker 1>old self. And it's such a nice compliment because you

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<v Speaker 1>do feel like you're back to yourself. I think being

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<v Speaker 1>in a toxic relationship, you can end up being a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a shell of yourself. And I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>know personally seeing your toxic relationship, you became a shell

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you definitely, Yeah, I definitely did. Remember that time

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<v Speaker 3>you saw me get out of the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Who the fuck is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Like you you came like a bull, you came

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<v Speaker 1>in you should we tell that story? I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like Matt, how do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell about throwing anyone under the bas Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I just basically saw a side of that

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<v Speaker 1>that was super angry, like very in his own head.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was like I was looking at him and

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<v Speaker 1>the lights weren't even on. And yes, I knew he

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<v Speaker 1>had been pushed and yeah, and in that relationship, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was a toxic relationship. But to see you

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<v Speaker 1>act that way, I was like, who are?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, it wasn't me. And that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to fight toxic with toxic because it was

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<v Speaker 3>the only way to like, you know, I mean, survive,

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<v Speaker 3>or I would have gone into life.

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<v Speaker 1>You go into survival mode.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously we've both put ourselves through toxic relationships and

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<v Speaker 3>we were saying, we said that we stay in them

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<v Speaker 3>because we hoped that they're going to change. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>why else do we get addicted to toxic relationships?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I think we can both agree on this.

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<v Speaker 1>The highs are super high and the lows are really low.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that when you're at those lows, you're

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to check that high because you want it back

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<v Speaker 1>so bad because you know how good it can be,

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<v Speaker 1>and that becomes this addictive, negative, toxic cycle that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost like a drug that it is a drug. You're

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<v Speaker 3>looking for that release of dolphins, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One percent, and you're just constantly chasing it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you finally do get back to that high, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even last long enough to give you that like

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<v Speaker 1>full you know what I mean, Like you just get

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<v Speaker 1>filled up and then it's gone again and you're back

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<v Speaker 1>to square one and you're fighting to get back there.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's definitely that toxic cycle that continues. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>another really important reason as to why people get into

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<v Speaker 1>toxic relationships is the environment that they're brought up in.

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<v Speaker 1>So people who are brought up in loving environments tend

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<v Speaker 1>to actually stay away from chaotic, abusive, and neglectful relationships

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time, not always. And then on the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite end of the spectrum, people who are brought up

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<v Speaker 1>in chaotic and toxic environments kind of feel safe being

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<v Speaker 1>in that type of relationship, that anxious attachment type of bond.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I grew up in a very loving household, like

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<v Speaker 3>nothing out of the ordinary, but I used to see

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<v Speaker 3>my parents argue a lot growing up, So I think

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<v Speaker 3>that I compartmentalized that almost with how relationships are meant

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<v Speaker 3>to be. And then so when I would argue, I

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<v Speaker 3>would be like, okay, well, like this must be how

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<v Speaker 3>like you deal with this sort of stuff. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>just talk it out. So I mean, going through that

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<v Speaker 3>relationship definitely taught me that it's not how you do that,

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<v Speaker 3>because I've obviously had relationships where we didn't argue. So

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<v Speaker 3>I yeah, I think I lost myself a bit in

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<v Speaker 3>that relationship and I started arguing and found myself falling

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<v Speaker 3>more and more into.

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<v Speaker 1>That hole and into those cycles, into that cycle of

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean it's you know what, the great thing

0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:01.040
<v Speaker 1>about being in these types of relationships is that produce

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<v Speaker 1>the most growth that you can ever go through. Like

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<v Speaker 1>in hindsight, you're like, wow, I see everything so clear,

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<v Speaker 1>and you actually look for those red flags and future

0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.760
<v Speaker 1>partners because you're like, there's no way I'm putting myself

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<v Speaker 1>through that type of shit again, Like, no way.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. If I ever feel anxious to rock up

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<v Speaker 3>to my girlfriend's house again, I'm ditching that.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon as I can again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So obviously with toxic behavior, there's definitely a spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone in their own right, is some level

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<v Speaker 1>of toxic, whether it be a little bit or a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, obviously, as we've mentioned, depending on who

0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you're with, that can either really bring out that toxicity

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<v Speaker 1>in you or it can really diminish the toxicity in

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<v Speaker 1>you because you feel secure. I mean, we've both spoken

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<v Speaker 1>about we are very needy and jealous, which is both

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<v Speaker 1>like they're two toxic traits.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, there could be worse toxic traits out there,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt actually hates it called toxic on so many levels,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you can't even sit here and admit it, even

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<v Speaker 4>though he's number one, the most needy guy I've ever

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<v Speaker 4>met and super jealous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, but like there's worse traits in that.

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<v Speaker 3>So what if I want to kiss in a cuddle

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<v Speaker 3>here and there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay, but yeah, so obviously we've both mat like

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny, difficult to admit it, but we both admitted

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<v Speaker 1>to being those toxic traits. But what are the other

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<v Speaker 1>toxic traits that you can think of that might impact

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<v Speaker 1>your relationships? Would you say?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 3>I have to think long and hard about this. Called

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<v Speaker 3>up some ex's after them asked asked around.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all like his perfect I don't worry about that,

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<v Speaker 1>non toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we go on another day? And I was like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>that's done?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, no, But dream.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that I find myself doing this And I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't say I overly do it, but I would be

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<v Speaker 3>manipulative in a way to get something that I want

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<v Speaker 3>from my partner. I would manipulate a situation without well

0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:28.199
<v Speaker 3>that's what manipulating means, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Without their knowing.

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<v Speaker 3>I would so I could get something or something could

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<v Speaker 3>go a certain way that I want, if it's to

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<v Speaker 3>where we eat for dinner, or if it's what we.

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<v Speaker 2>Were going to do that day.

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<v Speaker 3>I will find myself, yeah, putting things into motion that

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 3>makes them think that.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to do that or do that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, Matt, I'm actually proud of you if

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.840
<v Speaker 1>we're saying this, because I actually know how hard it

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>is for you to admit that. But yeah, being manipulative

0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>is definitely a toxic trait, and I know that you're

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 1>working on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, now that I've flagged it and we've had

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<v Speaker 3>this conversation, I've definitely flagged it, and I will try

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<v Speaker 3>to be less like that and more willing to oph

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<v Speaker 3>into what they want to do and what they want

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<v Speaker 3>to watch and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, look, I think one of my toxic

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:16.880
<v Speaker 1>traits that I also thought about was that I can

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit controlling. And I think that's sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>because if I'm feeling out of control in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>or out of control in other ways, I try to

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<v Speaker 1>control things to make sure that the relationship is going

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<v Speaker 1>the way I want it to go, which I guess

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of manipulative as well. Like I guess they

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:40.440
<v Speaker 1>all kind of flow into one another. But as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's definitely something that I've now flagged and I

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<v Speaker 1>have been working on for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you need to control? What would you say

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<v Speaker 3>go into? What would be a situation?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like obviously, like in my last relationship, I

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 1>definitely was with Josh, I was very like wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see his DMS or something because there was a lot

0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of girls messaging him. And I think, like moving forward,

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that's not something that I would want to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it makes me feel uncomfortable now. And I think

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 1>giving people their own like personal space and trust and

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like letting them do the right thing without making sure

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>they're doing the right thing is something that I'm definitely

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 1>learning to do, and I think it's has been really

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>important for me and for my personal growth. And I'm

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>actually really proud of myself because I've been so much better.

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 1>And I know that the situation with Josh was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a different situation just because of the

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>whole winning a Love Island type of thing. But I think, yeah,

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>moving forward, like, I'm really proud of myself and the

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<v Speaker 1>progress that I've made.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, realistically, you can't control anyone, Like you can't control anyone,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can control yourself correct, So by controlling yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>you can control someone else, if you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>If you give them that space and give him that trust,

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<v Speaker 3>then I feel like then they know that they can

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<v Speaker 3>do you know what I mean, goes If they want

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<v Speaker 3>to fuck up, they'll fuck up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean that's I guess what it boils down to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've been hurt so much from being cheated

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<v Speaker 1>on that maybe in doing these things, I do them

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm trying to make sure that I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>cheated on, because I'm so worried about it happening. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think by me being overbearing in that way, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just pushes people away anyway. Like, Yeah, as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, people are gonna do what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't trust some the person that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship with, like what's the point You.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't spell trust without us?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So after all this toxic chat, can toxic relationships

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<v Speaker 1>actually be saved? Like? Are they worth saving? And can

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<v Speaker 1>they be saved?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think it's a case by case.

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<v Speaker 3>Some may have gotten way too out of hand and

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<v Speaker 3>way too toxic, and then I'm not telling you, but

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<v Speaker 3>I suggest maybe leaving that because you need to put

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<v Speaker 3>yourself first and you need to respect yourself. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to continue to try and make something work

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<v Speaker 3>that isn't can and can't be saved, I think you

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<v Speaker 3>should leave. But if both partners are willing to meet

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<v Speaker 3>the other one halfway, they're willing to put in the

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<v Speaker 3>time and effort, they're willing to have the right chats,

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<v Speaker 3>they're willing to see what the other one wants, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're willing to change, then I think it can be saved.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just got to suss out your partner and

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<v Speaker 3>be open for that change.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you think I.

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<v Speaker 1>Really don't think that they can be saved. I really yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that if you're with someone who is bringing

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<v Speaker 1>out the worst and here, I think that you should

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<v Speaker 1>move on and find someone who you're more compatible with.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I think that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we're a little bit different. I like to put

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<v Speaker 3>in the fight and I like to see if I

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<v Speaker 3>can fix a relationship as.

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<v Speaker 1>We're yeah, I mean I'm not. I'd definitely like to

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<v Speaker 1>put in the fight. I mean with my last relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Josh, we went to counseling for like three or

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<v Speaker 1>four months, and it just elongated the relationship. Like me

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<v Speaker 1>and Josh were always going to be toxic together, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes it's better to be able to see

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<v Speaker 1>that straight up and be like, actually, maybe we're just

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<v Speaker 1>not right for each other. There's a lot of love here,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not enough. I don't believe that love is

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<v Speaker 1>enough for a relationship to work. I think compatibility is everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think why try and force something to work.

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<v Speaker 1>When you can meet someone who's like the perfect match

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<v Speaker 1>for you and who's going to bring out the best

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<v Speaker 1>in you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're never going to meet them. If you keep hanging

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<v Speaker 3>out with someone that's bringing out the worst of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly right, all right, So there's so much to touch

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<v Speaker 4>on on toxic relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, we've just scratched the top of the iceberg here,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're going to touch on it a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>in upcoming episodes. But what are we touching on next week?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? On next episode, we're going to be talking all

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