WEBVTT - #2040 The Consequences Of Thought - Harps

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<v Speaker 1>Good a team.

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<v Speaker 2>So today we're talking about something that everyone experiences, but

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<v Speaker 2>very few people really understand.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about it on this show quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about it quite a bit, but I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do a different kind of a deep dive into

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<v Speaker 2>the topic. And we're talking about thoughts, specifically, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the potential ramifications and consequences good and bad of thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>You know me, I'm fucking obsessed with the mind. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with thinking. I'm obsessed with what we can do

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<v Speaker 2>with our mind. I think it is the most misunderstood

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<v Speaker 2>yet powerful component of the human experience. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we know how to use our mind properly. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that we ever will. I think, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is something I think about a lot. It's something I

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<v Speaker 2>study a lot. I'm doing a PhD in it, blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah, and I'm still I'm still baby stepping it, Nonetheles.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's really good to talk about. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about thoughts, and they're not just ideas floating.

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<v Speaker 1>Around in your head, but they are a.

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<v Speaker 2>Physiological reality, or they can have a physiological consequence that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. The truth that a single thought can change

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in your body.

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<v Speaker 1>How amazing is that.

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<v Speaker 2>So your body's not responding to an event or a situation,

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<v Speaker 2>or some change in some kind of external stimuli, but

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<v Speaker 2>rather your thoughts. A single thought can change your blood

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<v Speaker 2>pressure or what's happening with your hormones and your breathing

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<v Speaker 2>and your muscle tension, and your immune system and your

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<v Speaker 2>nervous system.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people think of thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>As kind of intangible, harmless, weightless, just kind of mental activity,

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<v Speaker 2>something that happens in the background, something that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>separate to the body, something that has no real consequence

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<v Speaker 2>unless we act on the thought. But that's actually wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>it's completely wrong. So your body is not responding to

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<v Speaker 2>the world. I'm going to say that again. Your body

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<v Speaker 2>is not responding to the world. Your body is responding

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<v Speaker 2>to your interpretation of the world. Your body is responding

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<v Speaker 2>to the meaning that you create through that window through

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<v Speaker 2>which you observe and process and understand and dissect and

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<v Speaker 2>tell stories about the world. Your body is responding to

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<v Speaker 2>the story that your mind is telling you about what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on. Your brain is running your physiology moment

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<v Speaker 2>to moment based on what it believes is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say that again. Your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Is running your physiology moment to moment based on what

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<v Speaker 2>your brain thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Is happening, not what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're in the middle of a shitty situation, but

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<v Speaker 2>you think it's a shitty situation, guess what's happening in

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<v Speaker 2>your body not bad stuff, good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in a what.

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<v Speaker 2>For other people would be a chaotic circumstance or environment

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<v Speaker 2>or environment, but in the middle of that outward kind

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<v Speaker 2>of chaos, you are calm. Guess what's happening with your

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<v Speaker 2>nervous system. It's calm, it's parasympathetic, not sympathetic. Guess what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with your heart rate. It's low, not high,

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<v Speaker 2>your blood pressure low, not high. Not because you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a calm situation, but because you interpret that thing as calm,

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<v Speaker 2>as not a problem, as not chaotic, as not a catastrophe,

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<v Speaker 2>and as a result, your physiology is reflective of the story, not.

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<v Speaker 1>The situation or circumstance.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why a stressful thought can increase our heart

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<v Speaker 2>rate without anything happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why embarrassment can make your face go red.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why fear can make your stomach drop in inverted commas,

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<v Speaker 2>It's why worry can literally make you feel sick. It's

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<v Speaker 2>why anticipation of something can give you goose bumps. The

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<v Speaker 2>thought is the trigger. The body is the response to

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<v Speaker 2>the trigger the thought. The body just does what it's

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<v Speaker 2>told to do, essentially, or the body just does what

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense to the body in accordance with the information

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<v Speaker 2>in inverted commas, information I should really say interpretation that

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<v Speaker 2>it's getting.

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<v Speaker 1>So today we're going to explore all that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that I've been fascinated with place ebos and

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<v Speaker 2>no cibos and you're not sure exactly what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to have a look at how belief can

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<v Speaker 2>reduce pain, change movement, alter healing, and influence the very

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<v Speaker 2>chemicals that your brain produces. We're going to look at

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<v Speaker 2>the place Ebo and no Cibo effect and what happens

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<v Speaker 2>when your brain decides that something is safe or dangerous,

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<v Speaker 2>or possible or hopeless or already improving. Because when you

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<v Speaker 2>understand that a thought can change your chemistry, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>really understand it and understand that an expectation can change

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<v Speaker 2>your nervous system and understand that your belief can change

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<v Speaker 2>your biology. You start to realize that your mind is

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<v Speaker 2>not just observing life, it's shaping it literally physically in

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<v Speaker 2>real time. And this is the consequence of thought. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's start here. I want to share some stories with

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<v Speaker 2>you today, which I fucking love. So today's quite it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a storytelling episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoy it. Let me know what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to tell you so story one I

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<v Speaker 2>want to share with you I'm calling the knee surgery

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't the knee surgery that wasn't. So in the

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<v Speaker 2>nine nineties, there was a surgeon named doctor Bruce Moseley.

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<v Speaker 2>He worked out of primarily out of Houston. He worked

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<v Speaker 2>with NBA teams, he worked with elite athletes, and he

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<v Speaker 2>kept seeing the same thing, and that was arthroscopic knee

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<v Speaker 2>surgery for osteos for osteoarthritis. And it often didn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>really to do much clinically or medically or physiologically, but somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason, patients swore by it, they swore that

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<v Speaker 2>it helped. But him from a clinical and an observational perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't really think it did much. But what he

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<v Speaker 2>did observe was that the people who had the operation

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<v Speaker 2>really believed right despite what he saw physically, clinically, medically,

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<v Speaker 2>what he observed was that those people really believed that

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<v Speaker 2>the operation did something. So he did something really a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit fucking sneaky. Well not that sneaky because it

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<v Speaker 2>was a controlled study, but he ran a controlled study

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<v Speaker 2>with three groups and he did surgery in inverted commas

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<v Speaker 2>on these three groups. So group one that had the surgery,

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<v Speaker 2>they had the proper surgery. They had the full arthroscopic surgery,

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<v Speaker 2>that cleaning out of the old you know people going, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going in to get the knee cleaned out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's that's generally, this is arthroscopic surgery. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So Group one.

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<v Speaker 2>Had the cleaning out of the knee, they had the

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<v Speaker 2>actual operation. Group two, I don't actually know exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>this is. I couldn't find it in the research specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>but they had a partial procedure, they had something done,

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<v Speaker 2>but not the full surgery. And Group three they had

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<v Speaker 2>placebo surgery. They had fuck all done. So they the

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<v Speaker 2>patients were wheeled into the theater, they were put under anesthesia.

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<v Speaker 2>There were three small incisions made in the knee, so

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<v Speaker 2>they thought they were having like it replicated the actual surgery,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was no surgery done. There was no actual

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<v Speaker 2>surgical repair, so they took them into theater, they put

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<v Speaker 2>them under anesthetic. I don't think i'd want that done anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>They made some small cuts in their knee, the same

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<v Speaker 2>cuts as the people who had the actual surgery would have,

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<v Speaker 2>so when they came out of surgery looked like that

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<v Speaker 2>had surgery, but nothing was actually done. There was nothing

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<v Speaker 2>invasive in their knee at all. So they stitched them

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<v Speaker 2>back up, not having had an operation, and sent them.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to rehab as normal.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the patients did not know which group they are in,

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<v Speaker 2>which of the three groups are in. Also, interestingly, the

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<v Speaker 2>surgeons performing the follow up assessments and the treatment team,

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<v Speaker 2>the clinicians, they didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Even And so what was the result.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the placebo surgery patients improved just as much, just

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<v Speaker 2>as much as those who had the actual surgery surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, in some measures, they improved more patients who

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing done. In fact, so there was nothing invasive

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<v Speaker 2>done inside the knee, They reported less pain, They reported

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<v Speaker 2>better mobility and greater confidence walking and climbing the stairs.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the patients in the plus C bow group,

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<v Speaker 2>who had lots of trouble, actually returned to playing professional basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>having no idea that nothing had actually been done inside

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<v Speaker 2>his knee. Yes, he had three superficial cuts, but there

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<v Speaker 2>was no real surgery. So why does this matter. Why

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<v Speaker 2>does this matter? Well, the surgery had been working for

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<v Speaker 2>years and the good doc believes and evidence would suggest

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<v Speaker 2>that it was working not because of any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>physiological or mechanical fix, but rather because the patients believed

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<v Speaker 2>that something had been repaired. Doctors believed that they were

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<v Speaker 2>helping everyone doc does, patients, family, Everyone expected improvement and

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<v Speaker 2>the brain delivered the change. So this study really blew

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<v Speaker 2>up the orthopedics world when it was published in the

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<v Speaker 2>New England Journal of Medicine in the early two thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want to look it up, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was two thousand and two. And it forced healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>to confront something that was like an uncomfortable or an

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<v Speaker 2>inconvenient truth, and that is that belief can trigger physical

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<v Speaker 2>recovery pathways that looked like the result of surgery. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the ever present questions for me around this

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<v Speaker 2>is why, why is this stuff? Why is understanding place ebos,

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<v Speaker 2>understanding how the mind can heal the body, Understanding the

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<v Speaker 2>potential and the power of this mind body connection, this

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<v Speaker 2>psychology physiology link. I know the answer, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to ask the question.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is why the fuck are we not studying this?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is this not the most important question being asked

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<v Speaker 2>and answered in health, in recovery, in medicine, in wellness,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the question is because if all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden we could heal ourselves. Imagine if we learned

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<v Speaker 2>how to actually heal ourselves from nearly everything and anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if we could figure out that I can actually

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<v Speaker 2>lower my blood pressure by doing this or doing without medication.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not suggesting you stop any medication, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>This is not what today is about. I'm just opening

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<v Speaker 2>the door on this fascinating reality that there are things

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<v Speaker 2>that happen in medicine and outside of medicine, in healing

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<v Speaker 2>and in health that make in inverted commas no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>There would be lots of organizations and companies and sellers

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<v Speaker 2>of pills and powders and potions and surgeries. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>who would suffer incredibly financially if we all figured out

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<v Speaker 2>that we didn't need all of the things we think

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<v Speaker 2>we do. Again, don't confuse what I'm saying. I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>think medicine and clinical treatment and doctors and nurses and

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. You know, of course, there's a place,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a place. But this is also a really fucking

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<v Speaker 2>door to open.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Story number two, I love this one.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm calling this the Parkinson's dopamine that wasn't so

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<v Speaker 2>let me explain that. So Parkinston Parkinson's disease involves the

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<v Speaker 2>loss of dopamine producing neurons, those feel good neurons, and

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<v Speaker 2>that causes tremors because a whole lot of neurological issues.

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<v Speaker 2>It causes difficulty with movement, with walking, with mobility, with balance,

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<v Speaker 2>with control, with all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of.

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<v Speaker 2>The things that happens with Parkinson's is that these neurons are.

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<v Speaker 1>Destroyed or lost.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the early two thousands, researchers ran a trial

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<v Speaker 2>to test a new drug, which researchers are always doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course these need to be double blind studies,

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<v Speaker 2>where some people are getting a medication, some people are not.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, as as is commonplace in this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of research, some participants got the actual medication and some

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<v Speaker 2>got a place ebo.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, nobody knows what they're on.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't know whether or not they're getting the real

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<v Speaker 2>medication or a pill full of nothing. And what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and again you know it's coming, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you anyway, what happens shocked everybody because the placebo group,

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<v Speaker 2>so the people who've got no drug, they thought they

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<v Speaker 2>were getting a drug, or the thought they might have

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<v Speaker 2>been getting a drug.

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<v Speaker 1>And time and time.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, it seems that people who do this kind of research,

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not whatever group they're in, most people seem

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<v Speaker 2>to think that they're getting the drug.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is about. That's another episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, the placebo groups, so the group that were

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<v Speaker 2>taking nothing, nothing with any therapeutic, I think their starch

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just starched the tablets. Anyway, So they

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<v Speaker 2>showed reduced tremors, smoother movement, improved walking, better facial control.

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<v Speaker 2>But like the really fucking astonishing bit of this research

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<v Speaker 2>in their study in particular, was what happened with the

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<v Speaker 2>brain scans. So the placebo patients, the people that were

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<v Speaker 2>getting nothing, they thought they were getting something, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was a huge surge of dopamine. Remember they're neurons that

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<v Speaker 2>produced dopamine are badly affected. But for some reason the

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<v Speaker 2>patient's taking nothing, all of a sudden, who couldn't generally

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<v Speaker 2>produce dopamine at any significant level, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>dopamine was flooding their brain. Not pretend dopamine, but actual, real,

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<v Speaker 2>measurable dopamine. The brain produced the chemical because the person

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<v Speaker 2>believed they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were beating treatment. They were being treated, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to say that again, So they when they looked

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<v Speaker 2>at their brain, their brain was flooded with dopamine. Even

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<v Speaker 2>though these people who couldn't generally produce any real level

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<v Speaker 2>of dopamine were not getting any drug to help them

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<v Speaker 2>do so. But because they thought they were being treated,

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<v Speaker 2>and this wasn't imagination, this was neurochemical reality. So their

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<v Speaker 2>expectation activated part of the brain called the nuclear circumbence,

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<v Speaker 2>and that triggers dopamine release and temporarily restored for them

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<v Speaker 2>movement function, balance, coordination, control, smooth out tremors, all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things that were considered to be phiz ieologically impossible

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<v Speaker 2>without medication, but they I guess they medicated themselves with

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<v Speaker 2>their mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So why does this matter? Well, Parkinson's is.

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<v Speaker 2>A neurological disease, hard physical neurodegeneration, real biological physiological.

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<v Speaker 1>Damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet belief alone for these people change their neurochemistry and behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>So the placebo didn't just change how they felt. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just a psychological shift or an emotional shift. So

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't just change how they felt. It literally changed

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<v Speaker 2>how their brain worked. And then as a byproduct of that,

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<v Speaker 2>what was happening in their brain, then what was happening

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<v Speaker 2>in their nervous system. More broadly, what was happening you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in their muscular system, neuromuscular combination and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>So this forced neuroscience to.

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<v Speaker 2>Rethink this particular study for neuroscience to rethink the mind

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<v Speaker 2>body boundary, the role of expectation in motor symptoms, and

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<v Speaker 2>how belief interacts with the basil ganglia also a crucial.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the brain with this and dopamine pathways.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a consequent this research became one of the

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<v Speaker 2>strongest demonstrations that the brain is not a passenger, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the driver and So what's the takeaway.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the takeaway is that your.

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<v Speaker 2>Brain isn't reacting to reality, it's reacting to what it

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<v Speaker 2>thinks reality is.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, I've got a few more. This one's a belter.

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<v Speaker 2>So story three is called the hotel housekeepers who lost

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<v Speaker 2>weight by changing their thinking. So Harvard psychologist Ellen Langer

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen el En a lady ran a study in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the two thousands. In the mid two thousands

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<v Speaker 2>with hotel room at tenant. So these ladies, they work

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<v Speaker 2>for hotels. They cleaned rooms all day, They changed lenin,

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<v Speaker 2>they vacuumed, they scrub bathways, They walked miles and miles

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<v Speaker 2>or kilometers and kilometers of hallways. I would think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I would guess somebody's step count

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<v Speaker 2>who does this kind of job would have to be well,

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<v Speaker 2>well over fifteen to twenty thousand steps a day, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>heading towards thirty but anyway, so they were moving a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. In other words, they were doing the equivalent

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<v Speaker 2>of moderate to vigorous exercise every day. But when they

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed all of these women, most of them didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>of their work as exercise. In fact, most of them

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<v Speaker 2>considered themselves as being somewhat inactive. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say that again, they didn't really think of their work

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<v Speaker 2>as exercise or working out. They believed that they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>active at all and described most of them described themselves

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<v Speaker 2>as not really exercising, and as a result, their bodies

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<v Speaker 2>matched their beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of them had.

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<v Speaker 2>Higher blood pressure, higher body fat, and lower perceived fitness.

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<v Speaker 2>So the researcher Ellen Langer taught one group, actually educated them,

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<v Speaker 2>taught them that they were already doing what counted as exercise.

0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:28.280
<v Speaker 2>She educated them about energy expenditure, heart rate elevation, calorie burning,

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<v Speaker 2>muscle conditioning, and that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there was She just ed.

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<v Speaker 2>She actually explained to them quite clearly, succinctly in Layman's terms,

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<v Speaker 2>that what they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were doing was already.

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<v Speaker 2>They were working out, they were exercising, they were moving

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, and that their job was the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 2>a daily moderate to vigorous exercise program. They were already

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<v Speaker 2>doing it, so nothing else changed. They just told them this.

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<v Speaker 2>They just informed this them of this. They just gave

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<v Speaker 2>them new information. So now the women were doing the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same thing, but they had a new story. They

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<v Speaker 2>had a new belief, They had new awareness, they had

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 2>new understanding, they had new thinking. So nothing else changed,

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.639
<v Speaker 2>no dietary change. They didn't walk anymore steps. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no adjustment or change to their routine. The other group,

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<v Speaker 2>there were two groups, the other group, they didn't get that.

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<v Speaker 2>They got no information, and then they tracked Both groups

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<v Speaker 2>over the next four were hicks. This is fucking hilarious anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened after four weeks. The group who now

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<v Speaker 2>believed and understood that they were exercising, lost body fat,

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<v Speaker 2>lost weight across the board, saw lower blood pressure, and

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<v Speaker 2>improved waste to hip ratios, so reduction in waste and

0:20:55.160 --> 0:21:01.680
<v Speaker 2>hip measurements. And again, they didn't change anything about their behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>The only change was how they thought about what they

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<v Speaker 2>were already doing. Their physiology shifted to match their new

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<v Speaker 2>self perception.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say it again. The only change was

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<v Speaker 1>not what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't eat less, they didn't move more, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have some new strategy. Everything was groundhog day. It was

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<v Speaker 2>exactly as it was before. They were doing the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the same way, the same job, in the same environment,

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<v Speaker 2>but all of a sudden they had a new understanding

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<v Speaker 2>and new awareness. They were thinking differently and their physiology,

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.359
<v Speaker 2>that is, their body changed and what was happening in

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 2>their body changed to match their new thinking or to

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 2>match their new self perception. And the other group nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>no changes status quo. So so why does this matter so.

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't positive thinking or motivational quotes. It was cognitive reframing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was cognitive.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a different story.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a result of that, we saw measurable metabolic change,

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<v Speaker 2>cardiovascular change, health change. And it suggests that your body

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't respond to just what you do, but it also

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<v Speaker 2>responds to your understanding of what you're doing or what

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you believe you're doing. So expectation shapes hormone signaling, a

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:37.399
<v Speaker 2>sympathetic tone, which is your level of sympathetic nervous system activation,

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<v Speaker 2>metabolic efficiency, how well your body metabolizes calories, energy, motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>And effort and recovery.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a snapshot, with this study, especially, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning Alter's biology, I've got all the references for all

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<v Speaker 2>of these if you ever want. But yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 2>done across that study that was Crumb and Langer two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and seven. It was eighty four participants So the

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 2>control group was forty and the participants were forty four,

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 2>so it's not a massive study, but it was very

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<v Speaker 2>controlled and if nothing else, you know, it's fascinating. No

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>behavior or activity level or dietary changes happened. Only the

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>meaning of their existing work was reframed, and as a

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<v Speaker 2>result they saw measurable, observable, real actual changes in their body.

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<v Speaker 2>So the next one's interesting too. This is almost the

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<v Speaker 2>well it's not almost, it's the reverse. So this time,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than plus cebo, where we think something good or

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<v Speaker 2>we take an inert thing thinking it's not inert, it's

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<v Speaker 2>rather powerful and as a result we get a powerful

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<v Speaker 2>outcome despite the fact that there was no power in

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, the drug, the medicine, the whatever. No cibo

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<v Speaker 2>is talking about when a negative expectation or belief causes

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<v Speaker 2>a negative physical or psychological response, even though the treatment

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<v Speaker 2>or the situation itself is harmless.

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<v Speaker 1>So in other words, if.

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<v Speaker 2>A place ebo makes you feel better because you believe it,

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<v Speaker 2>and no cibo spell noc ebo makes you feel worse,

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<v Speaker 2>like literally worse and also physically worse, with negative physical consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite often, as you'll hear in a moment because you

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<v Speaker 2>expect something bad has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to say that again.

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<v Speaker 2>If a placebo makes you better, like literally makes you

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<v Speaker 2>better because you believe it, and no CIBO will make

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<v Speaker 2>you worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you expect something to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So, for example, someone who's told a medication has strong

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<v Speaker 2>side effects, they start experiencing those side effects even if

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<v Speaker 2>they're given a sugar pill. And again there's not psychosmatic.

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<v Speaker 1>These are real.

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<v Speaker 2>These are real physical side effects. A person believes the

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<v Speaker 2>harmless smell is toxic, so they smell something another example

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<v Speaker 2>of a nose. They smell something and they think that

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<v Speaker 2>that is a toxic thing despite the fact that it's harmless.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's no danger. Nonetheless, they develop headaches and nauseas, nausea,

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and they start to panic. Being told you're back, for example,

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>is damaged when it's not really damaged. Maybe you've got

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>something minor, but all of a sudden, we've got increased pain,

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 2>fear and muscle tension, restricted movement, and a level of

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 2>disability that's associated more to the story than it is

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<v Speaker 2>what's actually happening with the back. So the key idea

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>with a no c B is that the expectation of

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<v Speaker 2>harm can create real harm, actual harm. All right, So

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<v Speaker 2>the next story that I want to share with you

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<v Speaker 2>is I'm finding my space. Okay, So here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the plus Ebo overdose, or we can call

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<v Speaker 2>it the no Siebo effect. So in the late nine nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>a bloke enrolled in a clinical trial for an antidepressant.

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<v Speaker 2>Half the participants were receiving the actual medical medication and

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 2>half were plus were receiving plus ebos so sugar tablets.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 2>They're identical, so you couldn't even the team couldn't discern

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 2>them what was what unless they knew, of course, but

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>to look at they're identical. So one was the drug,

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<v Speaker 2>the other had no active ingredient, no drugs, So he

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't know which group he was in. He was in

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<v Speaker 2>this trial, and one day, during a moment of acute

0:26:56.880 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 2>emotional distress, we'll call it that, he decided to overdose.

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<v Speaker 2>So he got all of the pills that he had remaining,

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<v Speaker 2>which was twenty nine pills, believing that he was sure

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<v Speaker 2>that he was on the real drug. As I said

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<v Speaker 2>to you before, most people think, even when they know

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<v Speaker 2>there's a fifty to fifty chance. For whatever reason, people

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 2>who are in these trials, most if there's one hundred

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 2>people in the trial and fifty are on the drug

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>and fifty and not the majority of people for whatever

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 2>reason feel like they are on the drug. And probably

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 2>it's because they're having very real physical changes, but they're

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 2>unaware of the fact that they're actually creating the changes,

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>not the drug. Anyway, back to the dude, So one

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 2>day he was having a let's just go with him,

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 2>was having a horrendous day. He was having a terrible day,

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<v Speaker 2>and he decided to overdose. He swallowed twenty nine pills

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>from his bottle, believing that they were real, and within minutes,

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>his blood pressure crashed, his heart rate spiked, he became faint, shaky,

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 2>and physically un stable. He was rushed to hospital, to

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<v Speaker 2>the emergency department, and by the time he got there

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 2>he was in a critical condition. And doctors tried quite

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 2>they tried IV fluids, cardiac monitoring, stabilization protocols, but nothing

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 2>was helping. Was he was getting worse, slightly worse. His

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>body was responding as if he was dying from a

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>toxic overdose. So I'm just going to say that his

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>body was responding, so all the physiological signs that he

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 2>had actually taken a toxic level of a drug. His

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 2>body was demonstrating that that was real. That the and

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that the team did not know. They did not know,

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>so that the medical team that I'm talking about in

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>the hospital, they didn't know that he hadn't actually taken

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 2>a drug. Then the coordinator of the trial arrived at

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the hospital with all of the lab records. As it

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>turns out, you know, I'm going to tell you this already,

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<v Speaker 2>but the dude, so the guy who'd taken the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine pills, he'd taken a placebo twenty nine times. He

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in the medicated group, he wasn't using the actual

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>drug that was being tried. He'd been taking a placebo

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>the whole time. So no active drug, no biochemical agent,

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 2>nothing real about that at all, just pills made of starch.

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>So when the doctor informed him, you didn't overdose on anything.

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>These pills contain no actual medication, almost instantly, within three minutes,

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 2>his blood pressure returned to normal, his heart rates stabilized,

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 2>his symptoms disappeared, and he recovered very quickly. So why

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 2>does this matter? Well, this is the no cebo effect

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>in its purest form. So a belief caused the physiological crisis.

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.719
<v Speaker 2>So the problem the very real. Now, remember the medical

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 2>emergency was real, right, the belief was flawed, His thought

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>was flawed. But your body can't tell the difference between

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.959
<v Speaker 2>what is real and what you think is real, So

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 2>your body doesn't respond to what is real. Your body

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>responds to what you think is real. Because what was

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>real was he had taken twenty nine harmless pills, which

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>normally would do absolutely nothing to a body, maybe give

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you a gut ache because you've just taken twenty nine

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>starch pills. Who knows, But what it actually did as

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 2>a consequence of his thinking about what he'd done, it

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>put him into a death spiral, like a severe medical crisis.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So a belief caused the physiological drama. And guess what

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>a belief A belief reversal ended it. There was no

0:30:56.240 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 2>chemical explanation interpreted, I'm in danger, I've poisoned myself, and

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 2>it triggered an adrenaline shock response, vascular collapse, sympathetic nervous

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 2>system upheaval, and then the brain. Then the moment that

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 2>the brain learned there was no danger. Oh, that story

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I told myself is bullshit. It isn't real. I haven't

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 2>taken a shitload of drugs. The moment that he realized

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 2>that that there was no danger, the body reversed the

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 2>entire process instantly. And that's from a paper called no

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Cebo Effects with Placebo Treatment and Clinical Trials, and the authors.

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Of that were Reeves.

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>And Ladner in two thousand and three. I love that

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 2>one so interesting. So, I mean, what's the key message. Well,

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>if the mind can cause a problem, the mind can

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>help solve the problem. That's that's part of it. Because

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 2>your brain isn't reacting to reality. Your brain is reacting

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 2>to what you think is real. Your brain is reacting

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>to what you think or it thinks reality is alrighty,

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 2>this is my last one. This is my favorite one

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 2>because I'm a dude, and I've been lifting weights forever.

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm an exercise scientist, and I'm into all this shit

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>that I'm about to share with you. But whether or

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 2>not you're dude, and whether or not you're lifted weights

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 2>or never lifted weights, I think you'll find this interesting

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>because it's not so much about strength training as it

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>is about the incredible things that can happen with belief.

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<v Speaker 1>So this story is called the Steroids that Weren't So

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>back in the.

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Early nineteen seventies, there was a guy called research called

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Dr Robert Ariol and he was studying strength training performance

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>in college athletes. Time this is pre like this is

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>pre all the drug cheating, like the more common era stuff.

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>But at the time, anabolic steroids were starting to become

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>popular in competitive sport. I remember a time when they

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 2>weren't even illegal. Can you believe that anyway? And there

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 2>was a growing belief that steroids were depending on what

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to get, you know, strength, power, speed, they

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 2>were almost magical and if you took them that your

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 2>strength and your power and your speed and your performance

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and your body in general would go through the roof,

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>like all of this amazing shit would happen. So doctor

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Ariel designed a study to test something slightly different. So

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the question was not do steroids work? That wasn't the question,

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 2>but the question was what happens when someone believes they're

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>taking steroids?

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 2>So he recruited a group of male varsity weightlifters. So,

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>by the way, when they believe they're taking steroids, but

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>they're not, of course. So anyway, he recruited a bunch

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>of blokesome weightlifters, university weightlifters, strong dudes, already training quite

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a background, already been lifting for quite a long time,

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 2>already quite elite. So we're not talking about novices or

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>beginners or even intermediates. We're talking about people who are

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 2>reasonably down the road in terms of their own training

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 2>journey and their own competitive journey. So strong, committed, high performing,

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 2>motivated dudes, the kind of blokes who were obsessed with

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.240
<v Speaker 2>their numbers, with you know, what they lifted, what they squaded,

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 2>what they benched, what they cleaned, all of those things,

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>so all of their numbers. And for the first seven weeks,

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the athletes trained, So it happened in two parts. Happened

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 2>in a seven week block, then a four week block.

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>So for the first four weeks the athletes trained normally,

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 2>they trained hard, they trained consistently, nothing changed. But they're

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 2>all in the gym busting their ass, trying to eat well,

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>sleep well, lift well, recover well, do all the things

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 2>that elite athletes want to do. And their gains were

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 2>obviously because they've been training for quite a long time.

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 2>So over the seven weeks of being monitored, there were

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 2>minor changes, but nothing traumatic, which is to be expected

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 2>because they've already got years of training under their belt

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and now we're just monitoring and observing and tracking a

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>seven week period with no real change in.

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>The protocol or the variables. And then so then came

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a twist.

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 2>The doctor told about half of the group at the

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 2>seven week mark that they were about to go on

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 2>a cycle of a really powerful steroid called dianabol, which

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 2>is an oral steroid, so in other words, it's taken

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 2>as a tablet. So they were told half the group

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 2>were told they were about to begin a cycle of

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 2>an anambolic steroid. Now, remember, all of these guys understand

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 2>what steroids is, they are are They all believe that

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 2>these are these essentially these magic pills and so on.

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>So but of course, you know, I'm going to tell

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 2>you in reality, they were given place ebos completely inert,

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 2>no active ingredient, just filler.

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>So all of the athletes in this group believed that

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>they were now on the gear.

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you the specifics in a moment,

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 2>but I'll just start by telling you, so seven weeks

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 2>remember a kind of minimal change. But over the four

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>weeks where they were nudge nudge wink wink in inverted

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.359
<v Speaker 2>commas on the gear, the athletes who believed they were

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 2>taking steroids saw crazy strength gains, heavy lifts, more explosive

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 2>training intensity, better confidence, more aggressive, better recovery, less hesitation

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>under the bar. And so while nothing changed in their

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 2>physiology from a chemical from including chemicals or drugs, there

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>were no hormones added, nothing. There were no anabolic pathways

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 2>that were artificially boosted, so no actual chemical enhancement is

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 2>the clumsy thing that I'm trying to get out of

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>my mouth. But the only thing that really changed was

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>their belief. They expected to get stronger, so they trained

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.280
<v Speaker 2>like men who were getting stronger, So they pushed harder,

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>They recovered with more purpose, They approached the bar with

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 2>more confidence and certainty, and the body followed the mind.

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>So when the.

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Athletes finally were told that the pills had been taking

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.439
<v Speaker 2>were placebos, they didn't even know that that was an option.

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 2>They unequivocally absolutely thought they were on steroids. They were

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 2>shocked and some didn't believe it. Some felt embarrassed, and

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 2>some were amazed. Now let me just go to I've

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 2>just got to find it because I've got this written here.

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 2>So the actual bart here we go, all right, So

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 2>vastly level male athletes during all right, So here are

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the actual strength improvements. For those of you who train,

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>this will blow your head off. For those of you

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>who don't, just trust me. He says, that sounds dodgy,

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 2>doesn't it. So bench press one RM, which is one

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 2>rep max. So in other words, how much they could

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 2>bench press for one repetition absolute maximum effort. So over

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the seven weeks, the first seven weeks where they were

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>in inverted Comma's no chemical assistance, the average gain was

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 2>four point three five kilograms. Four point three five kilograms

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 2>across the totality of all of the athletes. Now in

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 2>seven weeks, considering they already have a big background, four

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 2>point three five kilos is modest. It's not nothing, it's something.

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 2>And they'd all improved over seven weeks. So that's good.

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>But what we saw over the subsequent four weeks, so

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 2>remember seven weeks four point three five kilo game, and

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>then the subsequent four weeks where they are on steroids.

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Nudge nudge, wink wink, we saw a thirteen point five

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>kilogram increase, so just over half the time, still with

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 2>no drugs, but they think they've got drugs, and we

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 2>saw three times the level of improvement. Then we go

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 2>to squatting a one rep back squad where you've got

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the bar sitting on your shoulders, on your traps behind

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 2>your head. So in the first seven weeks the average

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 2>improvement without drugs six point eight kilo gain in strength

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 2>or in terms of best lift best one RM score

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 2>for a squad six point eight kilo improvement in seven weeks,

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 2>and then in the subsequent four weeks when they thought

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 2>they were on steroids but weren't, the improvement was eighteen

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 2>to twenty two kilograms on average compared to over seven

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 2>weeks six point eight. Now in four weeks we've got

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 2>somewhere around three to three and a half times the

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 2>improvement in about half the time without drugs, just but

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>believing they had drugs. Deadlift there was first first seven

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:56.399
<v Speaker 2>weeks seven kilo gain, subsequent four weeks over twenty kilo gain.

0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Military press, which is pressing basic from your shoulders straight

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 2>up in the air like a vertical press with a weight.

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 2>In the first seven weeks there was pretty much no change,

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 2>so minimal kind of somewhere less than half a kilogram change,

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and during the four week placebo phase of the trial,

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 2>the average was five to seven versus zero. So the

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 2>bottom line is that they really got stronger. They really

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 2>got stronger. There. It wasn't just psychology. It was a

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 2>physiological change, and it was psychology driving physiology. So when

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 2>they believed they were taking steroids, their body performed as

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>though they were. Their strength gains tripled on average without

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>a single molecule of testosterone or any other steroid entering

0:41:55.680 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 2>their system. So that's the deal. Well, that's the deal kids.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 2>A thought is not just a thought. A belief is

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 2>not just a belief. Your mind is not just sitting

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>in your skull watching your life go by. It's running

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the show. It's influencing your chemistry. It's affecting your recovery,

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 2>your strength, your pain, your immune system, your immune function,

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>your energy, your stress responses, and your overall state and

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 2>your overall experience of life and your ability to heal

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 2>and recover. We saw a guy recover from knee pain

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 2>and return to sport because he believed his need been repaired.

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:36.760
<v Speaker 2>We saw Parkinson symptoms improve because the brain believed medication

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 2>had been given. We saw hotel workers lose weight and

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 2>improve cardiovascular health just because they understood their work differently.

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 2>And we saw athletes get considerably stronger because they will

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 2>believe they were on a drug that they weren't actually on.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 2>And none of those changes came from magic or hype

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 2>or superstition. They came from the expectation of change. They

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 2>came from the thinking. They came from meaning, from interpretation,

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 2>from what the brain decided was true, what the brain

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 2>thought was true. The brain was responding to what it

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:19.280
<v Speaker 2>thought was real, not was not what was actually happening

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>in the real world.

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>So the question.

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Becomes, what are you telling your brain? What story are

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you running, What assumptions are you reinforcing, What expectations are

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>you living inside? What's the internal language that's shaping your body,

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 2>behavior and experiences. Because the consequences of your thoughts are

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 2>not just philosophical, in fact, not at all, they're physiological.

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 2>They show up in blood chemistry, in muscle activation and inflammation,

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in digestion, in movement, in mobility, and heart rate, in mood,

0:43:56.160 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 2>in recovery, in performance. And it's not just like here's

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the thing. This is not positive thinking. This is not

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 2>be all you can be, you know, unicorns and puppies.

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>This is about accurate.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Thinking, helpful thinking, constructive narratives, and self awareness. So the

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 2>takeaway for this episode is it's kind of simple, like,

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts are not everything, but.

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>They're not nothing. They matter a lot, So learn to

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Notice them, question them, Choose the ones that move you forward,

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>interrupt the ones that hold you back, that fuck you up,

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 2>that cost you because your mind is not a passenger

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:38.760
<v Speaker 2>in your life, it's the driver.