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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 2: One of the most captivating and shocking stories in a

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Speaker 2: really long time was the Belle Gibson story. Now, she

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Speaker 2: was this young Australian woman who was a fraud star.

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Speaker 2: We found out she had the whole pantry. It was

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Speaker 2: put on Apple watches. She made a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: She's back in the headlines because Netflix have released a

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Speaker 2: show called Apple Side of Vinegar. But when we first

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Speaker 2: got to know Bell Gibson outside of her own what

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Speaker 2: she was calling her success was when Tara Brown interviewed

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Speaker 2: her on Sixty Minutes.

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Speaker 3: He may remember this, how.

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Speaker 1: Old are you? I've always been raised.

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Speaker 4: As being currently a twenty six year old.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Belle, I's just a really really simple question. How

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Speaker 1: old are you? I believe that I'm twenty six? What

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Speaker 1: do you know the truth to be? Now, that's probably

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Speaker 1: a question that we have to keep digging for.

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Speaker 4: It made a lot of people's blood.

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Speaker 2: Boil didn't it to pick my television up and throw

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Speaker 2: it out the window watching that?

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Speaker 3: But I couldn't stay gives a Bell? Not Tara, Oh no,

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Speaker 3: not Tara with Belle. Sometimes I think I'm twenty six.

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Speaker 5: Dangerous Lies Unmasking Bell Gibson is on tonight at nineteen

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Speaker 5: on Channel nine and nine Now, Tara joins us this morning,

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Speaker 5: good morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Tara.

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Speaker 2: How much has this thrown Bell Gibson back into the spotlight?

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Speaker 2: This Apple Side of Indigan show on Netflix?

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Speaker 3: Have you seen it?

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Speaker 1: I have seen it. I have been triggered. Yes.

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Speaker 4: Does it seem accurate?

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Speaker 1: Oh? You know, accurate is not a word you can

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Speaker 1: use in relation to anything to do with Bell Gibson.

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Speaker 1: I'm as confused today as I was ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: Not to take away from the streaming service or the

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Speaker 1: show itself. It's terrific and it's so well acted, but

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Speaker 1: it's just so confounding to be able to follow Belle's

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Speaker 1: story because it chops and changes. It seems feasible, is

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Speaker 1: completely not and so it's entertaining, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Were happy? Were you happy with how you portrayed?

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Speaker 2: Because the sixty minutes interview is a large part of

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Speaker 2: it and someone plays.

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Speaker 1: You, Yeah, well, that's always weird. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: ever happened to me before, but it's you know, seeing

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Speaker 1: how other people might observe you is always a bit confronting.

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Speaker 1: But no, you know, it's great to watch. I think.

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Speaker 1: Our show, however, on tonight, shows much more of that

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Speaker 1: interview and much more of the Belwin.

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Speaker 2: What are we expecting to see because obviously so many

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Speaker 2: people are fascinated by this story and it's a terrible story,

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Speaker 2: but it is quite fascinating because it's just it's beyond belief, right.

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Speaker 2: Are we seeing more behind the scenes about sixty minutes interview?

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Speaker 2: Are we finding out where she is now?

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't find out where she is. There are

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Speaker 1: rumors that she's in somewhere in Melbourne. Whether she's under

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Speaker 1: and assumed name or her own, I'm not sure. But

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Speaker 1: what it really does, I guess, is, you know, a

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Speaker 1: decade on which is incredible in itself. It pieces together,

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Speaker 1: you know, the story of Bell Gibson and how she

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Speaker 1: came to be exposed, and you know, we talked to

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Speaker 1: one of her closest friends who became a major whistleblower

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Speaker 1: which led to this story being broken in the age,

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Speaker 1: and we revisit the interview and there are parts to

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Speaker 1: it that haven't been seen before. So I think it really,

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Speaker 1: you know, paints the picture of what the world was

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Speaker 1: being told by this woman who was you know, everyone

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Speaker 1: wanted to believe everyone was very sympathetic towards and exposes

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Speaker 1: what she was really lying.

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Speaker 5: Do you remember the chat that you did with her

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Speaker 5: and then sort of when you stopped rolling. I always

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Speaker 5: think that's interesting, Like you're in the room, the interview's finished.

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Speaker 5: Did you have much of a conversation afterwards? Or she

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Speaker 5: just walked out?

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Speaker 1: No, she was pretty upset at the end. No, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't you know, it wasn't the warmest ending, but not

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Speaker 1: that it was meant to be. There was nothing vengeful

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 4: Very let to be honest.

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Speaker 5: I've done several hotel interviews with guests before, and when

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Speaker 5: the interview doesn't go well and you're wrapping up that

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Speaker 5: mic coble, you're trying to wrap it up pretty body.

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Speaker 4: What was your feeling as you walked away then? Were

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Speaker 4: you how did you feel? Were you angry?

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Speaker 1: More dumbfounded?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: You know, because the lies continued and the whole the

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Speaker 1: whole point, we knew that she had been very loose

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Speaker 1: with the truth and the lead up to that interview,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we believe that she was coming on

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Speaker 1: to make an apology to explain herself, but she just

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Speaker 1: became more and more slippery, and it was almost like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was Yeah, it was confounding, and it

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Speaker 1: was kind of like, at the end of it, I

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Speaker 1: was going, did we get any clarity? I really don't know.

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Speaker 1: A long interview, and it was frustrating at times because

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Speaker 1: it often started with a pearl of truth and ended

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Speaker 1: up somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever hear from her after that interview, because

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Speaker 2: it seemed like she had a way of then having

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Speaker 2: an answer for everything and always coming back when she

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Speaker 2: was criticized.

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Speaker 5: Do you think she slid into Taro's DMS.

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Speaker 2: Like sixty minutes. Ever hear from her again? Or was

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Speaker 2: she just after that interview was just nothing.

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Speaker 1: Look, the most priceless bit of communication came very soon

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Speaker 1: after that interview, and that was a letter from her

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Speaker 1: doctor was addressed to her, but she shared it with us,

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Speaker 1: which stated very clearly that she was completely well. And

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Speaker 1: this was a letter that she had had well before

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Speaker 1: the wellness app and the Wellness Warrior career took off,

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Speaker 1: and so she knew she knew, you know, very clearly.

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Speaker 1: She'd had a face to face, a forty five minute

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Speaker 1: face to face consultation with the doctor. She had a

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Speaker 1: letter from the doctor saying that she was not unwell,

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Speaker 1: and she actually supplied that to us. So during the interview,

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Speaker 1: you know, her great claim was that she accepted she'd

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Speaker 1: never had cancer, but she always believed she did, and

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Speaker 1: this was telling the world that.

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Speaker 2: She didn't You think she managed to fool so many people,

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Speaker 2: like Apple is one of the biggest organizations in the world.

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Speaker 2: How did she manage to pull the rug over their eyes?

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Speaker 1: I think it was a moment in time. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was the it was the start of Instagram, it

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Speaker 1: was the you know, the wellness world was really taking off.

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Speaker 1: She was what we wanted to be. It was perfect timing.

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Speaker 1: She was the picture of health.

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Speaker 5: Had they not learned from uploading U two's album.

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Speaker 4: On the notoriety if you will? And the attention Bell

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Speaker 4: Gibson is getting right now tonight on Channel nine the

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Speaker 4: Netflix special. Do you think she's in a sick and

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Speaker 4: sad way enjoying it?

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Speaker 1: Possibly? I mean, you know, it has been raised by

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Speaker 1: others that there was a great need for attention, and

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Speaker 1: you know, the fantasy world that she entered into well

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Speaker 1: before wellness was claiming this terrible, terrible state of unhealth,

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Speaker 1: which garnered a lot of support from her skater World friends,

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Speaker 1: and so there seems to be that pattern. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a psychologist, but you know there isn't a it's not

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Speaker 1: a tension that most people would like.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch this tonight.

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Speaker 5: Tara Dangerous Lies Unmasking Belle Gibson. It's on tonight nine

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Speaker 5: ten on Channel nine and nine. Now, Tara, just before

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Speaker 5: we let you go, I know you requested to ask something, Well,

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Speaker 5: m what.

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Speaker 1: Do we do? Well? You know, I'm very confused, actually, Lauren,

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Speaker 1: because the Daily Mail continues to print your age between

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Speaker 1: forty one and forty two. So, Lauren, this is a

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Speaker 1: very very simple question. How old are you?

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Speaker 3: I believe I'm twenty six. I know I like it too.

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Speaker 5: Simple question, Lauren.

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Speaker 1: We can't give them a very simple question.

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Speaker 3: I believe that I'm allowed to behave like I'm twenty six.

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Speaker 3: I can go them I'm not forty two or forty five.

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Speaker 5: I can see how frustrating this is for you. Tara,

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Speaker 5: tell the truth.

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Speaker 1: It's worth I want you to tell the truth.

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Speaker 4: The Daily Mail never get it.

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Speaker 3: I'd like them to start writing that I'm twenty.

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Speaker 5: Six, actually rolling Tara Brown, Jordy's on the it's been

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Speaker 5: a true Thanks so much, Tara.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure, Thank you way, j S.

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Speaker 2: Lauren wake up feeling good on number one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Lauren only them on Socials

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