1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey, 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: the kids, the house and the teenage babysitter. That's what 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Chris Dawson wanted, says a judge hearing the former rugby 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: league stars appeal on his murder conviction. Dawson is attempting 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: to demonstrate his wife, Lynn, who hasn't been seen by 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: her family since nineteen eighty two, may have just walked 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: out on him and their little girls. That's today's episode. 8 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Sydney in January is hot and sticky. New Year's bring 9 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: temperatures over forty degrees on some days and violent afternoon 10 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: storms in the earliest days of nineteen eighty two. That 11 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: was very much the case. On January ninth, nineteen eighty two, 12 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: a young father from Sydney's Northern Beaches arranged to take 13 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: his two daughters, then aged just four and two years old, 14 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: to a local title pool to escape the heat. There 15 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: they paddled in the shadows, supported by their dad, a 16 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 1: tanned athletic Chris Dawson. Their maternal grandma, Helena Simms, was there, 17 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: so was one of Dawson's friends, Philip Day. It was 18 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: during this outing that Dawson claims he received a phone 19 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: call from his wife, Lynnette. He says she told him 20 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: she wanted to get away for a few days clear 21 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: her head. Lynn's family never saw her again. In twenty 22 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: twenty two, more than forty years after that summer day 23 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: at Northbridge Baths, Justice he and Harrison in the New 24 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: Southwald Supreme Court found Christopher Michael Dawson guilty of Lynnette's murder. 25 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: The judge said that on that day at the baths, 26 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Chris had already murdered Lynn and left her body in 27 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: their home, planning to return later than dispose of her remains. 28 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: Christopher Michael Dawson on the charge. Then, about eight January 29 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two, at Dayview or elsewhere in the state 30 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: of New South Wales, you did murder Lynette Dawson. I 31 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: find you guilty. 32 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: On Monday, almost two years after Justice Harrison sentenced Dawson 33 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: to twenty four years in prison, Dawson's appeal got underway 34 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: in the New South Wales Court of Criminal Appeal. His 35 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: public defender, Belinda Rigg SC says the evidence doesn't stack up. 36 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: We've used a voice actor or to bring you the 37 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: words spoken in court. 38 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: The evidence is not sufficient in its nature and quality 39 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: for the inferences to be drawn beyond reasonable doubt. 40 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: That trip to the North Bridge barths is central to 41 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Dawson's application. In the trial, Prosecutor Craig Everson SC told 42 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: the court Dawson had invited Lynn's mum, Helena Simms, and 43 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: friend Philip Day to the baths on that day so 44 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: they could see him be called into the pool office 45 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: to take a long distance phone call. That's the call 46 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: Dawson claims was from Lynn. The Crown also alleged, and 47 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Justice Ian Harrison agreed it was all part of Dawson's 48 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: plan to get his little girls out of the way 49 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: for the night. He told Philip Day that Lynn wanted 50 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: the girls to spend the night with their grandma on 51 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: the other side of Sydney. Justice An Harrison found that 52 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: was so Dawson could go home alone and deal with 53 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: Lynn's remains, but Dawson's public defender Belinda Rigg SC said 54 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: that's probably reading too much into it. 55 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: The Crown at trial suggests that there was some sinister 56 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: or underhand aspect to this relationship, to this arrangement with 57 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: mister Day. 58 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: Justice Christine Adamson one of the three Supreme Court justices 59 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: hearing the appeal, asked rig if she meant to argue 60 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: that Dawson could have murdered Lynn at a later day. 61 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: That is, the judge wanted to know. Are you saying 62 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: Dawson could have murdered Lynne, but he just didn't murder 63 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: her at the time the Crown has alleged, No. 64 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: Your honor, it's submitted that it is a reasonable hypothesis, 65 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: consistent with innocence, that she was alive at that time. 66 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: The Crown has undertaken a trial to disprove that as 67 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: an indispensable intermediate fact, And it's not an issue in 68 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: these proceedings that he might have murdered her but at 69 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: a different point in time after that afternoon. No, it's 70 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: a crucial issue whether there's a reasonable possibility that Lynett 71 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: Dawson called the north Bridge Barths on the afternoon of 72 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: the ninth of January, which would result in the acquittal 73 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: of the applicant. 74 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: One of the grounds of Dawson's appeal is that the 75 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: evidence didn't establish beyond a reasonable doubt that Lynn was 76 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: dead on January nine. One of Harrison's reasons for his 77 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: finding was that Lynn didn't communicate with any family members 78 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: after that date, but rig argued, these long breaks in 79 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: communication won't I common. Just a note on this, Belinda 80 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: Rigg and the judges call Lynn miss Dawson. Her legal 81 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: name was Lynette Dawson, but her family has asked us 82 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: to call her by her maiden name, Lynette Simms. 83 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: Miss Dawson's sister, Pat Jenkins didn't have a phone at 84 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: her home at Stuart's Point on the Mid North Coast. 85 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: She was at that time speaking quickly and breathing heavily, 86 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: and she offered for her to come and stay with her. 87 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: At that time, Miss Dawson had a very close relationship 88 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: with her mother, But there's nothing in Helena sims diary 89 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: entries for October nineteen eighty one to January nineteen eighty 90 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 3: two or otherwise, or other evidence in the trial suggesting 91 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: that they had daily contact or anything close to that 92 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: with one another. 93 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Belinda Rigg said lynd Dawson's mindsetting the lead up to 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: her disappearance indicated it was possible that Dawson didn't kill 95 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: her at all, that she left the family home at 96 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: Bayview and her small children of her own volition. Rigg 97 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: said the young mum wasn't coping because Dawson was angry, 98 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: incommunicative and reluctant to be intimate with his wife. Plus 99 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: she was distraught at the arrival in her home of 100 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: a teenage babysitter. This girl is known by the acronym 101 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: JC because she was a child during significant parts of 102 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: this story. J C was sixteen years old when, according 103 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: to the finding of another court, Dawson, her school teacher, 104 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: illegally had sex with her. He's been convicted of unlawful 105 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: carnal knowledge and is serving a three year sentence for that. 106 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: J C was the family babysitter, but Dawson was infatuated 107 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: with her and had moved her into their home for 108 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: long periods of time. Lynn knew she and Chris were 109 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: having sex, and she was distraught. 110 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: She had found him in bed in their home with JC. 111 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: She had found her topless and naked in their family pool, 112 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: and her loss of self esteem and devastation at those 113 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: circumstances were discussed with friends and work colleagues. 114 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: So this is Chris Dawson's public defender arguing that because 115 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: Dawson was being unfaithful with a schoolgirl, Lynn was in 116 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: such despair that she might well have left her beloved 117 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: children and her home. It's a tough case for a 118 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: barrister to argue, even one as learned as Belinda Wigg. 119 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: So what about the fact that witnesses said Lynn would 120 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: never voluntarily leave her kids. Belinda Rigg said Lynn knew 121 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: the girls would be well cared for by their father. 122 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: There was a considerable body of evidence that mister Dawson 123 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: was and was well known to Miss Dawson to be 124 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: highly capable of looking after the children. Miss Dawson would 125 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: sit and chat with the other women at the picnics, 126 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: and it would always be mister Dawson who was playing 127 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: with the children, changing nappies, looking after the children's needs. 128 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: That a woman would voluntarily abandon her children wasn't an 129 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: entirely novel concept for Christie. We heard in the murder 130 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: trial that there was a family story about a woman 131 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: who'd done just that. This was the mother of Chris's brother, 132 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: Peter Dawson's ex wife, Lynnell. Lennelle's mother had left the 133 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: family when Lynnell was just a child. Belinda Rigg argued 134 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: this could go some way to explaining Chris Dawson's actions 135 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: in the crucial days and weeks after Lynn disappeared. 136 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: That situation, having so starkly occurred in the Dawson family 137 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: and well known to them, may well have contributed, amongst 138 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: other things, to Chris Dawson not doing everything within his 139 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: power to go and find his wife, just. 140 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: As Adamson was curious about this. 141 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: So in those circumstances where somebody who's really desperate to 142 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: be a mother only becomes a mother seven years after 143 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: she's been married, absolutely adores her children, it's difficult to 144 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: see how the applicant's former sister in law's mother can 145 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: really have a bearing on that normalization, given the focus 146 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: of miss Dawson on getting pregnant and her joy at 147 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: having the two children. 148 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: Rigg responded, his conduct on his own account of what 149 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: happened is uncaring and perhaps callous in terms of just 150 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: continuing things with j C in the house and not 151 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: making a greater effort than he did to find his wife. 152 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: But it is of some importance that there was this 153 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 3: big feature in their family of a woman who had 154 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 3: left and set up her own life, that he might 155 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: not necessarily presume something bad had happened to his wife. 156 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: He might think it more plausible than another person might 157 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: that his wife had simply decided to move on and 158 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: set up a new life for herself. 159 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: Justice and Harrison found it was Chris Dawson's infatuation with 160 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: j C, his student and the teenage babysitter who he 161 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: later married, and his fear of losing her that ultimately 162 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: motivated him to kill Lynn. Glinda Rigg said, for the 163 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: most part, the judge in the original trial was right 164 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: to believe jac's evidence. 165 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: That evidence demonstrates a passion love for j C on 166 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: Dawson's part, which is relevant to the motive the Crown 167 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: relies upon in this case. The evidence indicates that both 168 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: JC and the applicant went away towards Queensland a day 169 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: or two before Christmas nineteen eighty one with the intention 170 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: of not returning to Sydney to start a new life. 171 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: That's jc's evidence. By boxing day, jc's evidence was that 172 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: she did not want the relationship to continue. 173 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: So this was a trip When Chris Dawson was in 174 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: his early thirties and j C was eighteen. Dawson was 175 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: married to Lynn and lived with her and their two 176 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: little girls. He and j C ran away to Queensland together, 177 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: leaving Lynn and the little girls alone for Christmas. But 178 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: in the murder trial, jac said she was no longer 179 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: wanting the relationship with Dawson by then. She gave evidence 180 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: she was so anxious on that trip she became nauseous 181 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: and broke out in hives. They turned around and headed 182 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: back to Sydney. Back at the murder trial, the Crown 183 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: argued j c's reluctance made Dawson panic, that he decided 184 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: to get rid of Linn because he was terrified of 185 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: losing JC. In court on Monday, Belinda Riggs said that 186 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: wasn't right. 187 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: There was ongoing contact between the applicant and JC between 188 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: Boxing Day and the time she went to Southwest Rocks 189 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: on a holiday with friends. 190 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Rick argued Dawson's insistence that JC call him on a 191 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: daily basis while she was on a trip with her 192 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: friends to a beach town called Southwest Rocks that was 193 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: an evidence he was jealous or possessive of her, especially 194 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: given he didn't try to stop her from going on 195 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: the trip. 196 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: That's not necessarily reflective of a possessiveness or a jealousy 197 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: as distinct from a more usual type of way people 198 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: who are romantically involved with one another or have been 199 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: romantically involved with one another might speak with one another. 200 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Justice Adamson probed Dawson's obsession with JC further. She suggested 201 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: Dawson wanted to have it all. 202 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: The applicant, from his point of view, wanted to keep 203 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 4: the children, wanted to keep the house, and wanted to 204 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: keep JC, and one way of doing that would be 205 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: to murder his wife. 206 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: But rig said the fact that Dawson had planned to 207 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: leave his home and the children for a new life 208 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: in Queensland a fortnight earlier was evidence he wasn't particularly 209 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: concerned about the financial implications of his actions. Justice Adamson 210 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: wasn't satisfied. 211 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 4: His brother, who was a solicitor, said, look, if you 212 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: leave that house, you might jeopardize your financial interest in 213 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 4: that house, and he described the pre Christmas departure as 214 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 4: impulsive because he was so desperate to be with JC. 215 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: And Rigg responded, there was obviously a financial impact upon 216 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: the applicant, potentially in leaving the house and in leaving 217 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: his wife in the circumstances that he had, but it 218 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: wasn't something he'd shown himself to be overly troubled by 219 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: in the circumstances. 220 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: Rig also revisited an assertion made in the murder trial 221 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: by Dawson's former barrister, Pauline David, that Dawson loved both women, 222 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: Lynn and j C. Simultaneously. She said Jace's withdraw will 223 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: actually brought him closer to Lynn. They attended marriage counseling 224 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: and manly and were seen holding hands shortly thereafter. 225 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: The evidence in our submission indicated that when j C 226 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: withdrew from him in January nineteen eighty two, he made 227 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 3: more effort in the relationship with his wife. Lynn was 228 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: observed to be positive and happy after the counseling, and 229 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: she and Dawson were seen holding hands. They were both 230 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: in particularly good spirits, were holding hands and once again 231 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: felt close. 232 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: But j C moved into the family home at Bayview 233 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: just days after Lynd disappeared. J C testified at trial 234 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: that during that time she slept in the marital bed 235 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: with Dawson and wore Lynn's clothes at his encouragement. Belinda 236 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: Rigg said that doesn't necessarily mean Dawson killed Lynn. It 237 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: was here that just as Julie Ward, the President of 238 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: the Court of Appeal took up the questioning. Ward said 239 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: it would be odd for someone to give his wife's 240 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: clothing to his lover if he expected she'd return home 241 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: at some point. 242 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: Rigg responded, if all his attention was for his wife, 243 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: and it was being contented that his only love was 244 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: for his wife, and the only thing he wanted was 245 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: for his relationship with his wife to be fixed, it 246 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: would then be incongruous for him to allow JC to 247 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: stay in the house and to allow her to wear 248 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: clothes of his wife. But if his greater focus was 249 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: on JC at the time that she was there with him, 250 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily indicate a knowledge that his wife had 251 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: died or responsibility for that. It's in circumstances where the 252 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: Crown has emphasized the passion that he had for JC, 253 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: it might then be said he's not going to necessarily 254 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: be clear headed and completely logical and aversive of risk. 255 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: The third judge on the bench, just as Anthony Payne, 256 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: chimed in at this point. He asked if an innocent 257 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: person would move a teenager into the marital bed after 258 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: his wife's dizzib appearance. Belinda Rigg was frank in her response. 259 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: It's not admirable, it's not wise. The nature of his 260 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: interest in JC is in our submission, related to the 261 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: very reason why his wife left to take some time 262 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: to herself. They're not strangely coincidental occurrences. These occurrences are, 263 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: in our submission, intertwined with one another. 264 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: She said. Dawson was aware he'd have to deal with 265 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: the consequences Eve and when Lynn returned to Bayview, just 266 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: as Adamson asked. 267 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: Because you might say, well, she's already forgiven him for 268 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 4: going off with JC to Queensland. She's been prepared to 269 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: undertake marriage counseling. Miss Dawson obviously adored the children and 270 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: he could, as it were, count on her good will 271 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: in future if need be. 272 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: Rigg responded, partly, your honor, But the situation on Dawson's 273 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: account is that his view was that Miss Dawson had 274 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: left him without his agreement. On nine January nineteen eighty two. 275 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: Part of the request made to j C was for 276 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: her to look after the chew dren, and she did 277 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: have a history of having looked after the children, so 278 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: that's part of the context in which her presence in 279 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: the house could be explicable. But additionally, if JC being 280 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: back in the house then reignited his relationship with JC, 281 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: his focus then may very well have been on JC, 282 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: despite the fact that he would have been required to 283 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: resolve in some way his circumstances with his wife once 284 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: she came back, whether that's by an amicable separation or 285 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: the sale of the house. 286 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Coming up why Chris Dawson says it's the police's vault. 287 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: Lynn's killer wasn't caught earlier. Subscribers to The Australian get 288 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: to read all are exclusive analysis plus the take from 289 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: the Teacher's Pet creator Hedley Thomas at the Australian dot 290 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: com dot u and we'll be back after this break. 291 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: The phone call Chris Dawson says he got during that 292 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: trip to the North Bridge baths goes to one of 293 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: the other grounds for his appeal. He says it was 294 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: unfair for Justice and Harrison to conclude the call happened 295 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: because he's at a significant forensic disadvantage due to the 296 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: long delay by police in bringing charges. Dawson's wife, Lynn Simms, 297 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: disappeared in early January nineteen eighty two. Dawson wasn't charged 298 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: with her murder until twenty eighteen, following the release of 299 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: The Australian's investigative podcast The Teacher's Pet, made by our 300 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: colleague Headley Thomas. So Dawson can't prove if the call happened, 301 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: or if it did who made it. On Monday, the 302 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: public defender for Chris Dawson, Belinda riggerc so the forty 303 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: year old phone records were no longer able to be 304 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: scrutinized and that put the former school teacher in a 305 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: tough spot. But just as Christine Adamson said, it goes 306 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: both ways. 307 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 4: Right, and the Crown has lost capacity to show that 308 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: it came from someone else else, like, for example, JC 309 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 4: or some member of the family. So in terms of 310 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: forensic disadvantage, both parties have potentially suffered forensic disadvantage and 311 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 4: there's no particular way of knowing what that forensic disadvantage is. 312 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: Is that not right? 313 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: Belinda Rigg said the law wasn't designed to protect the crown, 314 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: it was designed to ensure accused people got a fair trial. 315 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Come back to the front tomorrow for all the evidence 316 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: from day two of Chris Dawson's appeal, and keep up 317 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: with the federal budget and all are reporting at the 318 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: Australian dot com dot au