1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: It's Sharon on the air here on Nov. One hundred. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It is just go on twenty to nine showers today, 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: tops of sixteen. Hey, I just want to give a 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: little ears warning case you still do have kids in 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: the car. We're going to chat about something quite heavy. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned before the song. Yesterday was quite a big 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: day here in Victoria. Machete laws came into effect from midday. 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: You can't buy. 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: Any He's definitely a step in the right direction. We 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: have a long way to go, though. 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Big day for me and a family I've gotten to know. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: An incident happened about eighteen months ago. It was January four, 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. We were in between coming from the 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: old radio station to this one. 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: I was talking to you on the phone. 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, typical Tuesday. We were living in Hampton 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: East at the time. Normal Tuesday. My other kids are 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: on school holidays, yep. My wife Lou took one of 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: our sons, Honey, to the movies and I was at 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: home with Felix, who's eleven, and Archie, who's three. We 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: did our normal thing. We went for a walk around 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: the block. Felix had been learning to ride his bike, 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: so he was riding around the block. I know a 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: lot of the neighbors in the area and stuff that. 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: Was just typical friendly neighborhood, great. 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Neighborhood, got along with everyone, typical day. 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: A neighborhood where you feel safe. 28 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like kids were playing the street and all 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. At about just after twelve o'clock, 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: i'd gone back inside with two of the boys, and 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: where we used to live at sort of like a 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: corner house, so you know, sort of two streets and 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: down the side of our house we had a back 34 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: gate and my wife rang and I could hear it 35 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: in a voice, just the panic, and she said, Hey, 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: I've pulled up just down the road from our gate. 37 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: There's a man lying in the gutter covered in blood. 38 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: You never forget it, just right out the front of 39 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: your house. 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: This is ten past twelve on a Tuesday, and I've 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: come running out the back gate and it was probably 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: it was maybe ten meters away. And I know this 43 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: sounds crazy. At first, I thought it was like a mannequin. 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: I remember you telling me that. 45 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was a man. And as I approached, he. 46 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: Don't expect to see something like that. 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: And as I approached the person. I could see it 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: was a man. He was laying down, half on the footpath, 49 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: half into the gutter. His chest was covered in blood 50 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: his T shirt and I've looked at my wife by 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: this point, she was already ringing TRIPLEO. Luda passed through 52 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: me the phone and she took off because we didn't 53 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: want our son to see him. So this point it 54 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: is just me and this gentleman. There is absolutely no 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: one around. Poor guy's covering in blood on his chest. 56 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: He couldn't really talk. I said to him, can you 57 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: hear me if you can blink? And he did. At 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: this point I was just trying to reassure him. Helps 59 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: on the way at TRIPLEO. On the phone they said, 60 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: police ambulance are all on the way. I was explaining 61 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: the scene and how there was blood every where, and 62 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: they said, okay, you need to try and stop the bleeding. 63 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything with me, so I just took 64 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: my shirt off straight away, and then as I lifted 65 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: his shirt to try and help him, it was quite 66 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: obvious that he'd been stabbed twice. Now this is on 67 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: a suburban street in broad day terrifying broad daylight. Mate, 68 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: both of the broad daylight and this poor guy, you know, 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm trying to reassure him. He couldn't speak. I'd never 70 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: met him before. I didn't recognize him. At that point. 71 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: The police cars were just rocking up, and he slowly 72 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: closed his eyes and passed away. Police started performing CPR. 73 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: It was it was absolute chaos, the police performing CPR. 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: They did a great job at the scene. They're looking 75 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: at me, going have you seen anything? And I'm like no, 76 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: And they said, can you go start door knocking until 77 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: the other police arrived and just ask if anyone say anything, 78 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: because at this point they're like they're trying to save him, 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: but they're also we need to find the offense. 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: But also how scary, like you're going knocking on doors, 81 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: you don't know if someone's running into a house. 82 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: It was just cale was bringing the boys out, like 83 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: keep the boys inside. So the gentleman passed away. The 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: police tride everything they could the minute passed away. His 85 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: name was Spiros. He was a forty six year old 86 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: intellectually disabled gentleman and all he was doing was his 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: daily walk to the bus stop, because every day he 88 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: would get the bus to Southern and walk around and 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: say hi to everyone at the shops. Everyone in our 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: area knew this guy. He was so gentle, he was 91 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: such like the stories I've heard from neighbors and everyone 92 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: that knew him, he was a tragic North Melbourne supporter. 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: I've gotten to know his family quite well. I've been 94 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: around there a couple of times. His mum Kathy is 95 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: you know. And obviously they're doing it incredibly hard. Their 96 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: life will never be the same. 97 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: So this was I mean, firstly, Jace, I know how 98 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: deeply this has affected you. Where a year and a 99 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: half down the track and this comes up regularly you 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: and in conversations. 101 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: I remember talking to you that day and it was 102 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: it was like you were. 103 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: Telling me a story that you'd seen someone feel like. 104 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: You were in it. 105 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know that in the weeks and months 106 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: ahead how deeply this is affect affected affected you. 107 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: Also. 108 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: I think it was like because we had to have 109 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: the police in the house for it, likes after that 110 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: it's in the media. Yeahs out the front policeman in 111 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: the house for three hours doing statements. The kids are 112 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: asking what's going on And a. 113 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: Lot of people would have run away from a scene 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: like that because it's really scary. But you did an 115 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: amazing job in that. 116 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would have no. 117 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: You never know, but you were there and you held 118 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: his hand, and you gave him this this moment of 119 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: comfort knowing that someone was there. 120 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: And I remember you. I remember so clearly. 121 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: You're telling me what you were saying to him at 122 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 2: the time, because you just thought, gosh, if this was 123 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: my son, my dad, or my brother, I would want 124 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: someone to be there with him that knew him. You 125 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: and I know how hard you tried in that moment 126 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: to make Spiros not feel alone. 127 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Thank you the perpetrator. It has been processed by the courts, 128 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: and that's why I finally talk about. The person who 129 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: took his life was a guy in his twenties. He 130 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: was found not guilty due to mental mental IMPAIRMENTE Now 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: he will sat on. He is in jail, he'll eventually Yeah, 132 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: he's a facility, mental facility. But he's locked up and 133 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: he is off Jay Street. And that was a random 134 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Now here's the issue, right, and this is the reason 135 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: I want to bring it up. I was left pretty 136 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: mad after that because the innocence had been taken out 137 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: of our street. From that day out of that, I 138 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: didn't let the kids ride their bikes around there. I 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: had a front row seat to watch that family's life 140 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: change forever. And now that the court case is done, 141 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, the police have been so amazing to deal with. 142 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: But you know, we've managed to work out the events 143 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: leading up to that. And this kid was not in 144 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: a great emotional state and walked in and stole a 145 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: butcher's knife from a shop and then just roam the 146 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: streets and that's where he came across Spiros. And because 147 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: of the guy spirous is, everyone in the community knew 148 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: that he would just wave and say hello to people. 149 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: So we think if it was just us, every day 150 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: people just in the street, you norm we crossed the 151 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: road if you saw someone looking a bit dodgy, Spiros 152 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: is the sort of guy that would approach people make 153 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: sure they happen. So it's a random attack, wrong place, 154 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: wrong time. But like when I found out, it was 155 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: just he just went into a supermarket stole a butcher's knife, 156 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm just saying, like, yes, we've got 157 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: them out of supermarkets. Yes, we brought the rule in 158 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: that you can't buy machetes now, But like you said, 159 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: it's got to be a national rollout. We've still got 160 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: a way to go. And I'm just sick of the 161 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: red tape bullshit. Just get it done. 162 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, because. 163 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: There are so many innocent people that get caught up 164 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: in these awful situations. And to Spiross's family, who have 165 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: given you their blessing to talk about, and I know 166 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: you've You've built, in such difficult circumstances a bond with 167 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: his family, but. 168 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: What we're saying on the streets is just terrifying. 169 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry that this family have had to 170 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: deal with this, and I'm sorry that you've had to 171 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: deal with it. I know how much it's affected you. 172 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: I know how much it's affected your family, and I 173 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: can't even begin to imagine how much it's affected's family. 174 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: I feel like we've come a long way, but we've 175 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: got a long way to go. Let's just get this 176 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: city feeling safe again. 177 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 3: Nova