WEBVTT - State of Play 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.680 Welcome to the Daily Telegraph and R podcast Origin. Just 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.600 a few sleeps away, but those that don't sleep David Ricky, 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:16.280 friend Reid, welcome boys. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.479 Hello mate, Hello mate, good to be here. 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.520 When am I looking? What am I man? Or something? 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:22.960 I don't know. 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.000 Look, I don't know where I'm sitting in there, in 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:26.960 the in the in the team. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:28.440 Line up, the podcast pecking order. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.720 No not yeah, you could call that, but the one 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:31.880 through to seven eight. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:33.960 I think you're going to starting line up, isn't he? 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:35.960 Oh, you're asking the wrong person. I don't know what 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:36.280 I thought. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:37.120 This is your podcast. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:38.560 Where's Buzz? Where's Buzz? 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:39.239 Buzz has gone? 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:40.440 Well, where's mobs? 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:41.520 What's Buzz? 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.239 Mobs will be back at some point. We've had lots 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.600 of people ask around mobbsy module at some point maybe 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:47.400 for Monday show. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.720 You say, lots of people. We've had a couple of 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.040 a couple like. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.480 It doesn't be cold out? What about the jacket you 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:56.560 out there? 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.240 I thinks Marry Fonds is he would. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.440 Anyway? Blokes, let's move on. We've touched on Orange your 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:09.840 boy Niko, Yeah you'll play, Yeah, no doubt in the world. 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.760 You've been Look, look what I know is this right 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:19.120 and fair enough? Yeah, there's obviously it's origin week, right 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:25.120 and anytime anyone some sniffles, they're in doubt. However, my 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.480 understanding of the Nico Hein situation is that, you know, 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.520 for probably the past five weeks, four or five weeks 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:36.280 down at Cronulla, I'm down there. You could say, you know, 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.080 we don't use this terminology much. 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.720 Really is the beat reporter? 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:41.039 Are you the Beat reporter? 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:47.720 I would argue that I'm the I think, thanks, why 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.400 don't we use that terminology here and a reporter because 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.560 you'd be manly not really and it could be the dragons. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.400 Maybe you'd be the Melbourne. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.360 Storm from a distance. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:05.000 Yeah, anyway, Sorry, sorry, it took a left hand turn 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:10.040 there watching Nico train the Tiger's now sorry yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.960 that's Nico. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:14.600 Don't give away sources. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:20.480 Lunches start with lunches. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:23.560 Let finish made. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:29.080 What what about that? They made an allegation against you? 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:35.919 Which was where they Let's move on. So last week 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.320 Nicko's week usually like it's slow, and it's very slow 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.720 to start the week, and it's a calf problem, right, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.320 So there's no point in putting load into a niggle 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:46.320 early in the week. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.200 However, by about Thursday of the Shark's training week, he's 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.000 full blind training, right, He's doing all the team a 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.600 posed session stuff. So look if he if he was 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.560 to miss today being a Thursday session or tomorrow Friday 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:01.520 session for. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.560 The Blues, I'd be a little bit more concerned. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.640 Let's just I say we assess it on what happens 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:07.680 in the next twenty four hours. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.720 Well, I don't get Davis. There's all this talk about 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:11.160 they need to be training at the start of the 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.440 week and he's not training. Yeah, so immediately you're going 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.400 against everything we're being told. We're told that blokes need 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:19.880 to be training at the start of the week, blokes 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.080 need to be with the team the whole time. Yeah, 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.560 you get to the first training session, Nicko is not training. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.240 I think I think it's under the terminology training. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.400 What sounds like, what is what is training? 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:31.840 This is Blues and crosses. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:36.320 Hang on is the fact that New South Wales are 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.480 down to their third choice half back and they need 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.360 to roll the doll and then they need Nikoto playing. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.200 They know, look, here is a good player. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.440 I'd be intrigued. He's good player. It's a good player. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.120 Niko Hans has been the four half back for this season. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.240 Yeah, and there's also a big question mark over him 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:54.680 at Origin. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:59.280 Big question mark because it is but it's yeah, no doubt, 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.000 but they'd big question marks over Lukerey's played one Origin game. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.480 If he played one Origin game, they played the a bit. 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:06.560 Longer, playing more bigger game. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.200 All right, So if Luke Kerey is half back, you're 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.920 not sitting there going oh Jesus, highly concerning given how 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.480 many concussions Luke kea. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:13.960 Yeah, that's right. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.080 So you would find a crack at every half back 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:18.200 that we select. 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.440 Probably, thank you. Well. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.279 You want to touch on crisis a crisis Harry Grant, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:25.000 the poor guy. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.560 He had a bad He had a bad oyster. I 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:28.840 think back Carryan you were on. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.000 There last night, Yeah, stayed a bad oyster. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:38.000 It'd be fine as good as training. Should we play starting. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.720 Minutes about playing the field together. Yeah, the twenty minutes 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.560 that he sits on the bench will give him twenty 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:47.839 minutes secure time to recover. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.720 So he doesn't need to play as long play eighty minutes. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.200 There's the difference there is it? Not, Sorry, that's different. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.400 What Let's let's have a little fun what's next on 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.120 the Queen's Land and uh training camp? Will someone fall 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:07.039 out of bed or what's what's going on there? What 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.760 do you think? Will we have another one? Will we 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.599 have another maroon in doubt before? 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:17.039 Probably? Yeah, yeah, we probably will because that's what we do. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.320 We beat the odds, were the underdogs. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.240 How do you expect Queenstain to play ready? 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:29.360 I think they'll play expansive because I think that's the 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.039 way you look at this news the last team. For me, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:36.480 it's built to size power and I think if you 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.200 take them on in that department, you're not as big 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.520 or potentially powerful as they are. So I think maybe 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.000 you've just got to hold the middle of the field. Now. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.320 I think they'll be slick and they'll they'll beat them 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.160 with and the speed and their slickness in the outside backs. 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.719 That's what I think. I don't know that, I think. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.200 I think it was Gordy last night that made the 0:05:55.240 --> 0:06:00.839 point that the teams are like their coaches watched. You know, 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.640 we know who Madge has picked. You can maginners and 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.919 Jake Travoy Bridge's captain, and you know the big backs 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.000 and these guys are just going to roll their sleeves 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.479 up and get dirty and try and power through Queensland 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.080 and Queensland like Billy, you've gone for a bit of 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.640 flare and a bit of a lot of pace and 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.520 they're really exciting sight. So it's a it is a 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.080 contrast in battle of tactic. 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:26.560 Even down on the bench and you look at that 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.160 bench has gone with four forwards and Queens They've got 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:34.080 Harry and on the bench completely The. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.320 Only one that's probably missing in that would be for Feita, 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.159 right if we're talking like X factors and the. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:42.120 Completely gone, completely different tangent tangents in terms of the 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.600 bench selections. So I think it's gonna be real contrasting 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.960 in game plans and game style. 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:53.080 Yeah, it's it's a without doubt attack minded coach versus 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:54.600 defense monded coach. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:55.440 That's what it is. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.799 And that's talking to everyone inside both camps. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:06:59.919 They realize that. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.600 And if you go back, if you go way back 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.760 to the start of the year when it first popped 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.119 up that maybe Billy Sladers looking at carrying Roos Walsh 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.960 and Calen Ponger in the side, that's when you know 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.600 how I tack minded Billy Slater is. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.400 Wouldn't that have been something that's two blokes playing. I mean, 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.520 Selwyn's pretty exciting as well, right, so it's not as 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.680 if that's not intriguing. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.840 Boy's My understanding of the Selwyn situation is that I'll 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.640 try and grab the numbers as we talk. But there's 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.000 a little bit of a concern within the Moraines back 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.720 line of how many games they've actually played in the 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.800 last six weeks I'm. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.120 Referring to in terms of injuries. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.200 They've missed games, right, and so there's a little bit 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:48.040 of a concern that back end of the mash they 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.120 could start to feel the pinch of an Origin game 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.520 and that's where Selwyn could come in on some cover. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.320 There's no direct plan for sel one at this point 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.560 in time, but cover in the outside backs is clear 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:03.239 that that's one. It hasn't been mentioned. The fatigue element. 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:04.960 I'm trying to find that. I'll get the numb but. 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.000 You're either a genius or or a goat well with 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.760 when you like. If if New South Wales lose Nickel 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.800 in the first thirty second, whatever the case may be, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.360 then New South Wales bench looks a bit silly. If 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.960 Selling Cobo sits on the bench for eighty minutes then 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.200 and New Queens they lose, then people will be critical 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.280 of it. So it's outside back in the first two 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.280 minutes cobbos there then well look, you know, so. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.320 If that doesn't happen me, it's quite intriguing how they 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.520 use him because they've always used that. I often use 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.440 that role where they stick it back on the middle 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.480 of the field. Ben Hunts played it, Kale Cooper Kronk, 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.839 whether you can do that with Cobbo. I mean, here's 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.000 a big body, cell and he's a big dude. 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:46.240 So Hamersos missed four games this season, Tour Lung. He 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.560 has missed four games this season, and Xavier Coach has 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:55.240 missed two games this season and more more importantly recently recently, 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:59.800 and so just a little bit of cover in the 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.360 is Cobbo in relation to just that these guys haven't 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:05.880 been playing consistent footy. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.160 And then Dave, you had the story yesterday around the 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.200 eighteenth man, and you know a lot of the focus 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.000 been on Matt Burden, but flee Can Firsi as well 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.800 won't play yeah for the Dolphins this week because he's 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:22.240 eighteenth man for Queensland. What are your thoughts on the 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.680 eighteenth man not being eligible to play for their club side. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.880 I can see both sides of the story and I 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.000 feel I really feel for the Bulldogs, and the Bulldog's 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.480 frustration comes from the fact that this is the third 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.400 time for Matt Burton and hasn't got on the field. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:37.800 That hasn't got on the field. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.280 So when I say that listeners and viewers, this is 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.840 the third time Matt Burton's been named eighteenth man for 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:48.360 the Blues and hasn't been involved, been available to play 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.960 for Cannarbury, nor has he got on the field for 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.040 the Blues. So their argument is what's the point of 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:55.000 carrying Matt? Now? 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.240 The flip side of that is nobody. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.320 Knows if you're going to need your eighteenth man, And 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.960 to be fair, it should be a new title called 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.920 the emergency Player, because that's what he is. He's there 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.400 in case of an emergency. And the Bulldogs are in 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.960 this they're in this tree on this trajectory of attempting 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:15.520 to make the finals for the first time in a 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.000 long time. They played the Newcastle Knights on Friday night 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.079 and they would desperately love to have Matt Burton there, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.559 but they have to watch their star player just train. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:27.440 Yeah, I've got. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:27.880 No issue with this. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:28.520 I don't like it. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.640 He's what happened to be players this weekend, goes out, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.040 gets injured, right, They've select him as eightieenth man. He's 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.920 there because he's the best player if someone's ruled out, 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.200 which could happen, or if during the game, if someone's 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.240 ruled out, he could come on. He's the best. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.199 If Nicko Hines goes down, he's not playing, but is playing, 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.040 and here will go back and play for the roost 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:52.520 But even. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.600 If one of the smers goes down, or what about 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.439 during the game, if something happens to the game comes on, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:58.920 someone gets. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.240 What if what if NiCoT Heins? 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.240 What if Nicko Heins goes down next Monday? 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:05.720 What about it? 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.800 Luke Hery has just played for the Roosters the day before. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.679 Okay, but no, but they make a decision before Friday, 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:11.480 before the game. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:17.760 But what if you go down on Monday? We're going 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.680 to have to because which because they burnt the nineteenth 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.880 man of who's the cover for Niko Heines? Nick Luke here? 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:24.760 Which is good. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.320 They've got one up the sleep this week. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.000 You can see it's a flawed system, you know, that 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.600 it's for I have no issue with I have no 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:33.280 issue with it. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.920 I just think with no issue. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.040 The fact that the fact that the eighteenth man is 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.960 cover for not the most significant player on the field 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:43.959 of the nineteenth man is. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.120 But I get that, I understand that. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.640 But so maybe the point is that New South Wales 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.959 have bungled their selections of the eighteenth and nineteenth man 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:53.640 first time. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.720 No no, no, no, they got different roles. They got 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:58.640 different roles like. 0:11:58.640 --> 0:11:59.600 It covers a lot more. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.000 Yeah, the different rules. I get that. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.840 I think that, But what do you think I should do? 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.199 Let him go back and play for so he gets injured, 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.240 what happens? Then you're gonna find another one man. 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.480 There's about how many teams have to buy this week. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.120 That's right, but you can't limit so t we only 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:21.400 picking guys from he's barely played. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.800 I'm just saying it's going to be players that they play. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:25.960 It's the best play to fill that role. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.280 But you look at qu Queensland have gone for Felice 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.320 Cafersie on the bench as eight eighth man. 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.920 Right is he the best if he's if he's the 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.000 best man to fill that role, put him on the bench. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.839 Police is because carry it back on. 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.240 I understand that police. I just think that there's enough 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.000 players in the competition to pick that the club sidees 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.640 are already clubs are already decimated through Origin and the like, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.200 and then you're going to you're gonna have a player 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:56.000 not playing Newcastle Newcastle. But I'm not just talking about Cannaby. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.240 I'm talking about the Dolphins with Felice Cafusi as well. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:02.720 Who Dolphins playing Dolphins have got the Raiders on Saturday 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:03.640 Night has. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:04.600 Got a few out through Origin. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.280 Yeah, what's the issue because they're selected, they're playing. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.640 Some of these guys. 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.800 If you okay, your argument is that Matt Burton should 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.560 be on the bench, and I wouldn't have a problem 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.520 with your come on. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.880 The argument is that eighteenth man could potentially be as 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.200 important as any role on the bench. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.800 Well you've been out voted two to one, so okay. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.560 On the state lines, I'm talking about both teams because 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.400 the Dolphins are impacted here as well. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.160 And I'm saying the eighteenth man potentially someone could get 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.800 knock out in the first minute. I get, I understand 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.760 all that, So then how can you argue against it. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.040 I just I just think that the fact that they're 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.480 not they should have They could back up, they can 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.320 do it. I think the eighteenth man for the NRL 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.600 should should be playing New South Wales Cup and be 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:55.160 backing up. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.720 Okay, well, origin is a pinnacle a bit more respect 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.280 than that. Why why can't disrespect the concept? 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:09.480 Where did they get it down here? That's why that 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.760 is true because police will be happy to sit there 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:12.240 and not play. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.000 And you know what police would be. He would be 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.040 happy to sit there and not play, as I'm sure 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.880 Matt Burton is happy to sit there and play because 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:20.280 he gets. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.400 Signed it up to Matthew Burton the other day that 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.920 Mathew sounds of its city at the media day or 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.120 on Tuesday, and I said, listen, Maddie, listen, I'm doing 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.480 this story, coming close on the eighteenth man situation. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.480 I said, may I know you want to be here 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:39.880 with the Blues. I'm not going to question that. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.960 However, could you play Friday night and then be available 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:45.920 next Wednesday night? 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:47.840 There's not a problem, no dramas. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.800 Okay, fair enough, he could get injured then he's not available, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:56.760 is he Anyway? It's it's a waste to argue because 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.400 clearly it's the rules are the rules. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.600 I know it will get to questions later, but there's 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.800 a question around the eighteenth man concept from I think 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.680 it's it's either icy or LC says. I've heard the 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.080 eighteenth man in origin doesn't get paid. Is that true? 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.280 How is this possible? They get paid? 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:11.840 That's not true. Yeah, they get the full of man. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:13.000 I think they do. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.440 Just texted Glenn Jackson asking what is the full of. 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.640 Man these days? Thirty grand? We'll find we'll see. We'll 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.600 get back by the end of the show. But they're 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.920 definitely they definitely get paid. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:25.560 Yeah, they get paid. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.120 He had a yarn today dave around Las Vegas and 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.720 the Las Vegas readers. Yes, what as we inch closer 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.400 to finally finding out where the four teams are for Vegas, 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.760 he keeps getting delayed and delayed and delayed. Well, penwith's 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.920 the lock. We think the Warriors are potentially in there, 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.360 and they will. We'll get to that look at easy. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.800 But the NRL cognizant of when they announced this, they 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.320 really want to be able to drum it up and 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.120 be able to say, hey, fans, this is what we've got. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.400 Those are the ticket packages, these are the flight details. 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:01.280 This is what's involved rather than just being drip fed information. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:02.280 And fans know. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.960 This that the NRA can get frustrating with the NURL 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.400 just an announce a date and then you're still waiting 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.400 in September October, going what's the situation with the flight 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.960 packages and all that. So the NURL are doing their 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.920 best to really roll this up box and dice for 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.920 one big announcement. Now they are inching closer to announcing 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.520 the four teams, and it is the Raiders that are firming. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.920 I'm not saying they're over the line, but they are 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.800 certainly firming as a major contender to be one of 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.920 the four clubs. You're right, Mickey Penrith, the Warriors and 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:37.160 it's down to the Sharks, Raiders and Storm I understand 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:38.280 for that full spot. 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:38.560 Now. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:43.520 The Cronulla are confident or have some confidence. The Melbourne 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.720 Storm has some confidence and as I said, as I 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.880 learned yesterday the Raiders, the Raiders have some pulling power 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:55.560 and some nice synergy guys with the Las Vegas Raiders. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.400 And one of the key factors is and when I'm 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:03.040 talking about those, the means what the NRL want is 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.800 they want fans to be able to travel. They want 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:10.280 they want clubs that are well supported, and will your 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:14.879 fan base travel is the question every NRL club is 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:15.760 being asked. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.080 By the NRL and. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.280 Each of those those clubs that I've mentioned. I think 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.720 we saw in Magic Round the support that the Raiders get. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:28.960 They basically have their own entertainment package with the Viking Club, 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.040 so there's there's a huge contingent of Raiders fans that 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:34.840 would be kean. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:37.119 For me, guys. 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.240 I think the Melbourne Storm were questionable on how many 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:41.560 Storm fans would travel. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.800 You're like that your beats are. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:52.720 For the store questions down there. Out of fifteen thousand 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.280 and one of the well most well supported teams, the 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.760 NRL fans will travel. Magic Round is always a good 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.119 you know what Melburnieon's will go even if they're on 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:01.720 Storm fans. 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:06.119 I'll go for the just for the Albernians now, little Colin. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:11.480 Street, Yeah that's right. You've been there to straight who goes? No, no, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.440 not really, you just want to go. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.399 Fans of that club? No no, no, no no no. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.480 I meant like, yeah, one hundred percent. The fans want 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.760 to know who's going and they want to organize and 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.440 wait for their their team to be playing there before 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.480 they potentially go, and they're like, of course, it's a 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.600 it's a significant announcement, a significant story. I just meant 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.760 from our perspective, like, I don't mind if it's the Sharks, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.240 all the Panthers, all the Warriors, or the Raiders all 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:42.600 the storm sort of thing. No. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.840 No, I think you're right in the fact that when 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.560 we covered it early this year, it didn't matter who 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:48.960 was there. 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.000 You were there for the events. Yeah, that's that's the 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.720 way I probably meant it. Rather than not caring who 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:55.440 was playing. 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.840 I would say to look, there'll be a core of 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.960 people who will go regardless who the team's. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.800 Are out neutrals. 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.760 Yeah, but well supported teams have a lot. And there's 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.520 talk about Warrington playing game the Super League games were 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.719 now right, yeah as well, So that's going to pull 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.560 in the English credit some English people there. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.400