WEBVTT - Bonus: Probe The PoPo - The Dog Squad

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for our favorite segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence, tell me what you know?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, proper. We are big fans of the Victorian police

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<v Speaker 3>and we've got.

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<v Speaker 4>The cuts police officer we've ever seen. Touching it can't

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<v Speaker 4>stop playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Please don't touch him. His name is Senior Sergeant Mark Boyson.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark, here you go go.

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<v Speaker 4>We are excellent, also very handsome. Mark has brought with

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<v Speaker 4>him Riggs, puppy police dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it true?

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve we called German shepherd.

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<v Speaker 1>Has Riggs been named after leitha weapon? Riggs and Merton?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true, he's Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>We give the handlers an opportunity to come up with

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<v Speaker 5>some names and we sort of victim and see how

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<v Speaker 5>we go.

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<v Speaker 2>And hear that went past the.

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<v Speaker 4>Master Riggs in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, we got a.

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<v Speaker 6>Situation could be so okay, So Riggs in, when does

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<v Speaker 6>he start training? He's twelve weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>Well he started now effectively, but it's more with his age.

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<v Speaker 5>It's more about the environmental training and making sure he

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<v Speaker 5>stands up to those sort of rigors that we want

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<v Speaker 5>him to show when he finally gets operational down the track,

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<v Speaker 5>which would probably be we're not looking for him to

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<v Speaker 5>be a police dog. For another twelve fourteen, sixteen months

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<v Speaker 5>even it just depends on how that development goes. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so there's a lot of development happening now.

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<v Speaker 4>Though what sort of thing will he be sniffing out?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he like an attack dog?

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<v Speaker 2>Not that we don't call him that, no, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not. He's a tracking dog.

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<v Speaker 5>So he'll be used on frontline policing for general purpose

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<v Speaker 5>work we call it. So that'll be tracking for criminals effectively,

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll train him to look for people. It could

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<v Speaker 5>also be a searching at this scenario for missing people,

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<v Speaker 5>could also be for subduing.

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<v Speaker 2>We've just got to know.

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<v Speaker 5>The facts are that sometimes the scenarios where we need

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<v Speaker 5>the dog for seat scenarios top.

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<v Speaker 1>Safe Clint's committed a crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Believable hypothetical, I give you something of Clint's to sniff, like.

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<v Speaker 4>His hat, for example, is that what they do do they.

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<v Speaker 5>Sense a bit of There are dogs that do sense

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<v Speaker 5>discriminate like that, and so that's probably a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>what you see with bloodhounds and things like that. And

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<v Speaker 5>so no, it's about we do know that they send

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<v Speaker 5>discriminate to a point, but it's about most recent human sense.

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<v Speaker 5>So that initial imprinting is about understanding human sense. So

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<v Speaker 5>the dog will will just basically scuff the ground whence

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<v Speaker 5>the dog indicates that they get a little reward and

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<v Speaker 5>it develops from there in terms of to a track.

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<v Speaker 3>Now indicating PCs Clint outside down down the street right,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like, that's our crim Do you let him

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<v Speaker 3>off the lead and can he bring Clint down?

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<v Speaker 5>Hopefully that is never required, but look, the realistic nature

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<v Speaker 5>of the job is that we do have to train the.

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<v Speaker 2>Dogs to do those types of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and are they taught to like do they fight

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<v Speaker 3>or they just latch on, to latch on and hold.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So now German shepherds are amazing because I have one

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<v Speaker 4>growing up and it could jump over like a six

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<v Speaker 4>meter fence. They're quite six meters seems a lot. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>not six, maybe like two and a half meter defence,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>And we do train them to do that. Now, we

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<v Speaker 5>also have other breeds, but probably the good thing about

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<v Speaker 5>the German shepherds they are all around U so to speak.

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<v Speaker 5>They could day track, they search, they bite, they do

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<v Speaker 5>everything we want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no offense, I'm not scared about a beagle latching

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<v Speaker 1>on no.

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<v Speaker 5>But now Melian was which are Belgian shepherds. They are

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<v Speaker 5>farm more agile, and we've got a number of them

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<v Speaker 5>at the moment. We've probably got up towards ten at

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<v Speaker 5>the moment, and they're becoming far more predominant now they're

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<v Speaker 5>used in the military, etc. We've sort of moved into

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<v Speaker 5>a number of those dogs. They've got a they're far

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<v Speaker 5>more agile than the shepherd.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'll tell you what while we've got the cops

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<v Speaker 3>here thirteen twenty fourteen, if you have any questions for

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<v Speaker 3>the dogs this morning thirteen twenty four ten to join

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<v Speaker 3>us on the air. You were saying it could be

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen months till he's fully trained. If he passes, he

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<v Speaker 3>then becomes a fully fledged police officer. So any rules

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<v Speaker 3>like us touching you, If we touch him, technically we've

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<v Speaker 3>assaulted a police officer.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's like that with the horses too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well, we prefer we're very risk averse with our

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<v Speaker 5>dogs in terms of we really you know, if someone

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<v Speaker 5>is approaching us, if they ask, more often than not

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<v Speaker 5>we'll say no because they were in working mode. But

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<v Speaker 5>certainly we want dogs that are really they can be

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<v Speaker 5>out there and we can comfortably walk them down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not just going to latch on the sorder. We don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We really got to look at temperament. Temperament's a massive

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<v Speaker 2>part of what we're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were the same when building this show.

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<v Speaker 4>We three dopey people, put them all together and see

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<v Speaker 4>what happens?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you do you grow attached?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, without question. I've had a number of dogs over

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<v Speaker 5>the years, and and there's no doubt about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not too proud to say that I've eyes had over

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of dogs. And you know, once because of

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<v Speaker 5>that association, you have that your partner because we work by.

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<v Speaker 2>Ourself, and did you get partnered up?

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<v Speaker 5>And then you're there your dog for life? They live

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<v Speaker 5>with us, they live with their families, come home with you.

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<v Speaker 1>To hang on. How long would they stay in the service?

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<v Speaker 2>For generally speaking? Can hear and growling over there?

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<v Speaker 1>We what's he found.

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<v Speaker 2>By protein powder around thee The probably do on average around.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight years of service and then they retire them. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you keep absolutely so many dogs you got at home?

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<v Speaker 5>I've only got the one at the moment, but I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sort of not in I'm not chasing too many dogs

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<v Speaker 5>these days, or behind too many dogs these days, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>leaving it to the younger men.

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<v Speaker 1>Most cops keep keep the dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Or with that question, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Couldn't give you fifty years Next year is the squad Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm yet to see one person who's never kept

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<v Speaker 5>their dog.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's nice, Yeah, because you would spend so much

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<v Speaker 4>time together. I love when you see those videos about

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<v Speaker 4>the dogs retiring and they throw them a little farewell party.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw one of the airport dogs the other day

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<v Speaker 4>did its last service, and they dropped from the escalators

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<v Speaker 4>in the airport like fifty tennis balls and the dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to say fifty dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, that was really really I brought in a thing

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<v Speaker 5>just recently in the last couple of years that when

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<v Speaker 5>they do retire, we frame up a photo and a.

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<v Speaker 2>Park and that for the dog and the handler.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it's really important to really acknowledge them

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<v Speaker 5>for what they've done. I mean they've been we ask

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, all right, thirteen twenty fourteen. If you have

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<v Speaker 4>a question to probe the popo, there are so many

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<v Speaker 4>calls coming through.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well we'll come back and take your calls

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of.

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<v Speaker 4>This, we're showned by Seni Sergeant Mark Boyson from the

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<v Speaker 4>Victoria Police dog Squad with puppy Rigs, who's a twelve

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<v Speaker 4>week cold German shepherd that's one day going to save

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<v Speaker 4>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Ding Why he got his name clipping wrong? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done that for a couple of days. Now next time, Yeah, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen Letha weapon?

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen leath weapons. I've also seen police academy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, different vary.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have a is there a tackle berry dog

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<v Speaker 1>on the square?

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<v Speaker 6>Senior sergeant voice and just turned to me and said,

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<v Speaker 6>I remember you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, what music festivals?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, we ran into each other in the

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<v Speaker 6>World Cup soccer World Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's true Russia.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he behaving himself?

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<v Speaker 2>He was very good actually with his film the.

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<v Speaker 4>Second you introduced yourself with Senior Sergeant Mark Boyce, and

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<v Speaker 4>I bet he did.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a coffee at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Mark, I just touched on music festivals there.

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<v Speaker 3>What sort of dogs would you guys use to sniff

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<v Speaker 3>out like firearms, narcotics?

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<v Speaker 1>Money?

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<v Speaker 5>Yet that they're are labradors. So we have fifteen of

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<v Speaker 5>those and yeah, they're are detective dogs out Dubble. They're

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<v Speaker 5>really in high demand, so on any given day of

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<v Speaker 5>the week they're they'll be doing warrants on premises.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically might be a stupid question.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a dog, you'd be a labordor Jason. You

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<v Speaker 4>could sniff anything out bit dopertally.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't be a whippedtrror.

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<v Speaker 1>The pastries come out here in the kitchen, Trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>how do they know the scent?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? Have?

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<v Speaker 1>You got to get them around money and drugs and

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<v Speaker 1>get them used and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all so odor recognition and it's just repetition.

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<v Speaker 5>So you introduce an odor to them, you can get

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<v Speaker 5>them to find, you know, whatever it is, and you

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<v Speaker 5>just keep introducing that odor, and once they give you

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<v Speaker 5>that impression that they've understood it, they're rewarded, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>just it's compounding from there. You continuously introduce that odor,

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<v Speaker 5>have that oidor present and they order and they understand

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<v Speaker 5>it over time.

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<v Speaker 1>And firearms have an odor.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, so you've got obviously it's the powder itself quite obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>and also the cleaning, the oils and these types of

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<v Speaker 5>things there we're not specifically talking about the metal and

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<v Speaker 5>the wood, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>Depending on the makeup of the actual firearm. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>the other componatory around it and.

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<v Speaker 5>The odors that are associated with a firearm and if

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<v Speaker 5>the firearm's been fired.

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<v Speaker 4>The dogs are gorgeous and they do an amazing job,

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<v Speaker 4>but are they protected at all?

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<v Speaker 7>Do they wear protective gear?

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<v Speaker 5>So out of general purpose dogs, they will wear a

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<v Speaker 5>vest that basically covers the cross the chest area. It's

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<v Speaker 5>actually a New Zealand development in this in the protection

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<v Speaker 5>for the animal. So we do have the ability to

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<v Speaker 5>put some panels into the sides of the vest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>to give them added protection. Absolutely, you can whistle because

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<v Speaker 5>I can't. For certain people go to music festivals and

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<v Speaker 5>think about putting things up there. Dogs dogs can sniff

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<v Speaker 5>it up there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're pretty good about them, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, sniffing butts at the dog parks. I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 4>like it.

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<v Speaker 3>At music festival, where's the most where's the strangest plays?

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<v Speaker 1>You've found someone trying to hide something?

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<v Speaker 5>You might have hit on it, but yeah, that isle

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<v Speaker 5>will try all sorts of things, so you've probably I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know as far as your imagination can take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, we have got many calls coming through because people

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<v Speaker 4>love asking the police questions, let's go to Phillip Island. Colleen,

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<v Speaker 4>good morning. Do you have a questions Mike.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just wanting do the dogs get to come home

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<v Speaker 5>with you every day as part of the family, and

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<v Speaker 5>then like you work with them every day and then

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<v Speaker 5>when they retire.

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<v Speaker 4>Do they get to live with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, And I think that's a really good part of

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<v Speaker 5>that that bond is that mayor handlers have these dogs

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<v Speaker 5>from early phase, like he's going on with Rigs at

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<v Speaker 5>the moment, all the way through the career. And yes,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're fifty years old as a squad next year,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're really proud to say that there's not one

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<v Speaker 5>dog in all that time that hasn't been retired to

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<v Speaker 5>a family.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you train that out of them? Like, because they retire,

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<v Speaker 6>they've got to sort of settle into a retirement life.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you actually train what you mean, if you've got

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<v Speaker 6>a naughty uncle Christmas time, you know, all things happen

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<v Speaker 6>at Christmas and it's really.

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<v Speaker 5>Hard for him because it's their high drive dogs and

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<v Speaker 5>all they want to do is get into.

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<v Speaker 2>That car and go to work, and it is hard

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<v Speaker 2>for some of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Over time, they sort of wean themselves off at a bit,

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<v Speaker 5>but you always see that glint in their eye when they.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to go to work.

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<v Speaker 1>My uncle's yeah, right from Geelong.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning. Have you got a question?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I do a good minding everyone. So once this

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<v Speaker 7>thing is your training, how long does it take actually

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<v Speaker 7>be something sort of got the dogs and what are

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<v Speaker 7>some of the things that you actually do to kind

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<v Speaker 7>of get that sort of training.

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<v Speaker 2>So Riggs is an example.

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<v Speaker 5>He's starting off now it's more of and environmental, so

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<v Speaker 5>making sure that he can stand up to the rigors

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<v Speaker 5>of being basically exposed to anywhere we take him, noises

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<v Speaker 5>and also you know in dark areas, all those.

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<v Speaker 2>Types of things.

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<v Speaker 4>He'storally a good job in the studio so far. He's

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<v Speaker 4>peed once and done a pool on the carpet, so

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<v Speaker 4>he's sitting into this environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he shamed himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately it's not the first person to do it in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio.

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<v Speaker 5>But now we develop from there, so it's over time

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<v Speaker 5>we just continue to build up the disciplines that we

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<v Speaker 5>want from him. And that's mainly for him to use

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<v Speaker 5>his nose for tracking, and it's anything that's sent bearing

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<v Speaker 5>after that. So it's all about finding just discarded pieces

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<v Speaker 5>of evidence. But also then we've got to obviously understand

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<v Speaker 5>that the dog has courage. He's really got to show

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<v Speaker 5>that as well, so the dog can respond to a

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<v Speaker 5>number of scenarios where the expectation is he's got to

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<v Speaker 5>protect the handler and do his job, and that could

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<v Speaker 5>be about to subduing somebody. There's a lot involved to

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<v Speaker 5>understand that dog from twelve weeks of ages, Riggs is

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<v Speaker 5>we're not asking and putting him under a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>pressure until he does hit at least twelve forteen, sixteen months.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why it takes so long, because you've got

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<v Speaker 5>to really let the dog grow so speak How.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know when he's onto something like I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>the dogs at the airport will sit next to the luggage.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, they're all different, they're all unique

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<v Speaker 5>in the way they do it. But as a handler,

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<v Speaker 5>you are looking for classic indications and it's about.

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<v Speaker 2>A bark and no barking with these dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>It's about head movement, it's about change and in his

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<v Speaker 5>posture and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way it's to you as a handler.

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<v Speaker 5>Because we run off, we run off a long lead,

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<v Speaker 5>so we'd be ten to fifteen meters behind the dog.

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<v Speaker 5>He's in a harness and we're tracking along with a

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<v Speaker 5>long lead and we're casting him across an area to

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<v Speaker 5>try and understand or see a change of behavior.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, that's why you have to know the dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>So absolutely we.

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<v Speaker 3>Won't borrow some of them for the kids at Westfield,

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<v Speaker 3>you know when the kids run off for me at

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<v Speaker 3>the shop. All right, Jackie in too longest to wrap

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<v Speaker 3>things up, jack wats your question for the paper.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just pretty much more like the training actually

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<v Speaker 7>as the police officer, is what you need to be

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<v Speaker 7>doing to actually be a dog handler?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do you go through once you go through

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<v Speaker 1>the academy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely for what four years you were saying, we want

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<v Speaker 5>to we want a minimum of that, and it's really

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<v Speaker 5>just to because we're going to ask them to work

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<v Speaker 5>on their own but out there making good decision makers.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've got to have that really.

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<v Speaker 5>Good background in policing and understanding of the role before

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<v Speaker 5>we put him into this, because this is a completely

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<v Speaker 5>different dynamic now we're asking him to perform.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Locky here is pretty fit.

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<v Speaker 3>It is absolutely fascinating, isn't it. Yeah, we love the

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<v Speaker 3>Victorian Police amazing this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark, You've no good job, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks guys, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Good luck Locky with your new pup that you've got

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<v Speaker 4>on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>He's bloody adorable, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 4>And Riggs you're so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that sloppy little now. I was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Riggs when I said he's adorable. Lucky is too. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the gonna be good.

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