1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: It's time for our favorite segment. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Lawrence, tell me what you know? 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 3: Yes, proper. We are big fans of the Victorian police 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 3: and we've got. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 4: The cuts police officer we've ever seen. Touching it can't 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 4: stop playing. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: Please don't touch him. His name is Senior Sergeant Mark Boyson. 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Mark, here you go go. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 4: We are excellent, also very handsome. Mark has brought with 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 4: him Riggs, puppy police dog. 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Is it true? 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 4: Twelve we called German shepherd. 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Has Riggs been named after leitha weapon? Riggs and Merton? 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, he's Yes. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 5: We give the handlers an opportunity to come up with 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 5: some names and we sort of victim and see how 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 5: we go. 18 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: And hear that went past the. 19 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: Master Riggs in the studio. 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: Guys, we got a. 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 6: Situation could be so okay, So Riggs in, when does 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 6: he start training? He's twelve weeks. 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 5: Well he started now effectively, but it's more with his age. 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 5: It's more about the environmental training and making sure he 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 5: stands up to those sort of rigors that we want 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: him to show when he finally gets operational down the track, 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 5: which would probably be we're not looking for him to 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 5: be a police dog. For another twelve fourteen, sixteen months 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: even it just depends on how that development goes. And yeah, 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 5: so there's a lot of development happening now. 31 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: Though what sort of thing will he be sniffing out? 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 4: Is he like an attack dog? 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: Not that we don't call him that, no, but no, 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: definitely not. He's a tracking dog. 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 5: So he'll be used on frontline policing for general purpose 36 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 5: work we call it. So that'll be tracking for criminals effectively, 37 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 5: and we'll train him to look for people. It could 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: also be a searching at this scenario for missing people, 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: could also be for subduing. 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: We've just got to know. 41 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 5: The facts are that sometimes the scenarios where we need 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 5: the dog for seat scenarios top. 43 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Safe Clint's committed a crime. 44 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: Believable hypothetical, I give you something of Clint's to sniff, like. 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: His hat, for example, is that what they do do they. 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 5: Sense a bit of There are dogs that do sense 47 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 5: discriminate like that, and so that's probably a lot of 48 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 5: what you see with bloodhounds and things like that. And 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 5: so no, it's about we do know that they send 50 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 5: discriminate to a point, but it's about most recent human sense. 51 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: So that initial imprinting is about understanding human sense. So 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 5: the dog will will just basically scuff the ground whence 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 5: the dog indicates that they get a little reward and 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 5: it develops from there in terms of to a track. 55 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: Now indicating PCs Clint outside down down the street right, 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: and you're like, that's our crim Do you let him 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: off the lead and can he bring Clint down? 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: Hopefully that is never required, but look, the realistic nature 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 5: of the job is that we do have to train the. 60 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: Dogs to do those types of things. 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: Yes, and are they taught to like do they fight 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: or they just latch on, to latch on and hold. 63 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: So now German shepherds are amazing because I have one 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 4: growing up and it could jump over like a six 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: meter fence. They're quite six meters seems a lot. Maybe 67 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: not six, maybe like two and a half meter defence, 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: but they're pretty amazing. 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 5: And we do train them to do that. Now, we 70 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: also have other breeds, but probably the good thing about 71 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 5: the German shepherds they are all around U so to speak. 72 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 5: They could day track, they search, they bite, they do 73 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 5: everything we want. 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no offense, I'm not scared about a beagle latching 75 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: on no. 76 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 5: But now Melian was which are Belgian shepherds. They are 77 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 5: farm more agile, and we've got a number of them 78 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: at the moment. We've probably got up towards ten at 79 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 5: the moment, and they're becoming far more predominant now they're 80 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 5: used in the military, etc. We've sort of moved into 81 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 5: a number of those dogs. They've got a they're far 82 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 5: more agile than the shepherd. 83 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: Now, I'll tell you what while we've got the cops 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: here thirteen twenty fourteen, if you have any questions for 85 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: the dogs this morning thirteen twenty four ten to join 86 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: us on the air. You were saying it could be 87 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: sixteen months till he's fully trained. If he passes, he 88 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: then becomes a fully fledged police officer. So any rules 89 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: like us touching you, If we touch him, technically we've 90 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: assaulted a police officer. 91 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: I think what's like that with the horses too. 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, we prefer we're very risk averse with our 93 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 5: dogs in terms of we really you know, if someone 94 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: is approaching us, if they ask, more often than not 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 5: we'll say no because they were in working mode. But 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 5: certainly we want dogs that are really they can be 97 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 5: out there and we can comfortably walk them down the street. 98 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: They're not just going to latch on the sorder. We don't. 99 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: We really got to look at temperament. Temperament's a massive 100 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: part of what we're looking for. 101 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: And we were the same when building this show. 102 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: We three dopey people, put them all together and see 103 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 4: what happens? 104 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 6: Do you do you grow attached? 105 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: Oh, without question. I've had a number of dogs over 106 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 5: the years, and and there's no doubt about it. I'm 107 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 5: not too proud to say that I've eyes had over 108 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 5: a couple of dogs. And you know, once because of 109 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: that association, you have that your partner because we work by. 110 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: Ourself, and did you get partnered up? 111 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 5: And then you're there your dog for life? They live 112 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 5: with us, they live with their families, come home with you. 113 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: To hang on. How long would they stay in the service? 114 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: For generally speaking? Can hear and growling over there? 115 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: We what's he found. 116 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: By protein powder around thee The probably do on average around. 117 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: Eight years of service and then they retire them. Do 118 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: you keep absolutely so many dogs you got at home? 119 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 5: I've only got the one at the moment, but I'm 120 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 5: sort of not in I'm not chasing too many dogs 121 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 5: these days, or behind too many dogs these days, I'm 122 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: leaving it to the younger men. 123 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: Most cops keep keep the dogs. 124 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: Or with that question, you. 125 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 5: Couldn't give you fifty years Next year is the squad Wow, 126 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 5: And I'm yet to see one person who's never kept 127 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 5: their dog. 128 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nice, Yeah, because you would spend so much 129 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: time together. I love when you see those videos about 130 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: the dogs retiring and they throw them a little farewell party. 131 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 4: I saw one of the airport dogs the other day 132 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: did its last service, and they dropped from the escalators 133 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: in the airport like fifty tennis balls and the dogs. 134 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: You're going to say fifty dogs. 135 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: Actually, that was really really I brought in a thing 136 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: just recently in the last couple of years that when 137 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: they do retire, we frame up a photo and a. 138 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: Park and that for the dog and the handler. 139 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: And I think it's really important to really acknowledge them 140 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 5: for what they've done. I mean they've been we ask 141 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: a lot of them. 142 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, all right, thirteen twenty fourteen. If you have 143 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: a question to probe the popo, there are so many 144 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 4: calls coming through. 145 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: All right, well we'll come back and take your calls 146 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: on the other side of. 147 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: This, we're showned by Seni Sergeant Mark Boyson from the 148 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 4: Victoria Police dog Squad with puppy Rigs, who's a twelve 149 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: week cold German shepherd that's one day going to save 150 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 4: the world. 151 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: Ding Why he got his name clipping wrong? No, I 152 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: haven't done that for a couple of days. Now next time, Yeah, Lauren, 153 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: have you seen Letha weapon? 154 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: I have seen leath weapons. I've also seen police academy. 155 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: Okay, different vary. 156 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: So you have a is there a tackle berry dog 157 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: on the square? 158 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 6: Senior sergeant voice and just turned to me and said, 159 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 6: I remember you. 160 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Oh god, what music festivals? 161 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 6: No, no, no, we ran into each other in the 162 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 6: World Cup soccer World Cup. 163 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that's true Russia. 164 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: Is he behaving himself? 165 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: He was very good actually with his film the. 166 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: Second you introduced yourself with Senior Sergeant Mark Boyce, and 167 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: I bet he did. 168 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: It was just a coffee at the time. 169 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Hey, Mark, I just touched on music festivals there. 170 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: What sort of dogs would you guys use to sniff 171 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: out like firearms, narcotics? 172 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Money? 173 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 5: Yet that they're are labradors. So we have fifteen of 174 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 5: those and yeah, they're are detective dogs out Dubble. They're 175 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 5: really in high demand, so on any given day of 176 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 5: the week they're they'll be doing warrants on premises. 177 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 2: Basically might be a stupid question. 178 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: If you're a dog, you'd be a labordor Jason. You 179 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: could sniff anything out bit dopertally. 180 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be a whippedtrror. 181 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: The pastries come out here in the kitchen, Trust me, 182 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: how do they know the scent? 183 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Like? Have? 184 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: You got to get them around money and drugs and 185 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: get them used and. 186 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: It's all so odor recognition and it's just repetition. 187 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 5: So you introduce an odor to them, you can get 188 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 5: them to find, you know, whatever it is, and you 189 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 5: just keep introducing that odor, and once they give you 190 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 5: that impression that they've understood it, they're rewarded, and it's 191 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 5: just it's compounding from there. You continuously introduce that odor, 192 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 5: have that oidor present and they order and they understand 193 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 5: it over time. 194 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: And firearms have an odor. 195 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: Absolutely, so you've got obviously it's the powder itself quite obviously, 196 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: and also the cleaning, the oils and these types of 197 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 5: things there we're not specifically talking about the metal and 198 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 5: the wood, etc. 199 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: Depending on the makeup of the actual firearm. It's all 200 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: the other componatory around it and. 201 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: The odors that are associated with a firearm and if 202 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: the firearm's been fired. 203 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: The dogs are gorgeous and they do an amazing job, 204 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: but are they protected at all? 205 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 7: Do they wear protective gear? 206 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 5: So out of general purpose dogs, they will wear a 207 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: vest that basically covers the cross the chest area. It's 208 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 5: actually a New Zealand development in this in the protection 209 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 5: for the animal. So we do have the ability to 210 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 5: put some panels into the sides of the vest. Yeah, 211 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: to give them added protection. Absolutely, you can whistle because 212 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 5: I can't. For certain people go to music festivals and 213 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 5: think about putting things up there. Dogs dogs can sniff 214 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: it up there. 215 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: They're pretty good about them, you. 216 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: Know, sniffing butts at the dog parks. I'm sure they 217 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: like it. 218 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: At music festival, where's the most where's the strangest plays? 219 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: You've found someone trying to hide something? 220 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 5: You might have hit on it, but yeah, that isle 221 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 5: will try all sorts of things, so you've probably I 222 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: don't know as far as your imagination can take it. 223 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: Surprise. 224 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: Hey, we have got many calls coming through because people 225 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: love asking the police questions, let's go to Phillip Island. Colleen, 226 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: good morning. Do you have a questions Mike. 227 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 5: I'm just wanting do the dogs get to come home 228 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 5: with you every day as part of the family, and 229 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 5: then like you work with them every day and then 230 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 5: when they retire. 231 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: Do they get to live with you? 232 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 233 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I think that's a really good part of 234 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 5: that that bond is that mayor handlers have these dogs 235 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 5: from early phase, like he's going on with Rigs at 236 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 5: the moment, all the way through the career. And yes, 237 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 5: and we're fifty years old as a squad next year, 238 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: and we're really proud to say that there's not one 239 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 5: dog in all that time that hasn't been retired to 240 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 5: a family. 241 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 6: Can you train that out of them? Like, because they retire, 242 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 6: they've got to sort of settle into a retirement life. 243 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 6: Can you actually train what you mean, if you've got 244 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 6: a naughty uncle Christmas time, you know, all things happen 245 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 6: at Christmas and it's really. 246 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 5: Hard for him because it's their high drive dogs and 247 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 5: all they want to do is get into. 248 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: That car and go to work, and it is hard 249 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: for some of them. 250 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 5: Over time, they sort of wean themselves off at a bit, 251 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: but you always see that glint in their eye when they. 252 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: They want to go to work. 253 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: My uncle's yeah, right from Geelong. 254 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: Good morning. Have you got a question? 255 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 7: Yes, I do a good minding everyone. So once this 256 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 7: thing is your training, how long does it take actually 257 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 7: be something sort of got the dogs and what are 258 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 7: some of the things that you actually do to kind 259 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 7: of get that sort of training. 260 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: So Riggs is an example. 261 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 5: He's starting off now it's more of and environmental, so 262 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 5: making sure that he can stand up to the rigors 263 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 5: of being basically exposed to anywhere we take him, noises 264 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 5: and also you know in dark areas, all those. 265 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: Types of things. 266 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: He'storally a good job in the studio so far. He's 267 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 4: peed once and done a pool on the carpet, so 268 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: he's sitting into this environment. 269 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Yes, he shamed himself. 270 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Unfortunately it's not the first person to do it in 271 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: the studio. 272 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: But now we develop from there, so it's over time 273 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 5: we just continue to build up the disciplines that we 274 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 5: want from him. And that's mainly for him to use 275 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: his nose for tracking, and it's anything that's sent bearing 276 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 5: after that. So it's all about finding just discarded pieces 277 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 5: of evidence. But also then we've got to obviously understand 278 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: that the dog has courage. He's really got to show 279 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 5: that as well, so the dog can respond to a 280 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 5: number of scenarios where the expectation is he's got to 281 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 5: protect the handler and do his job, and that could 282 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 5: be about to subduing somebody. There's a lot involved to 283 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: understand that dog from twelve weeks of ages, Riggs is 284 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 5: we're not asking and putting him under a lot of 285 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: pressure until he does hit at least twelve forteen, sixteen months. 286 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 5: And that's why it takes so long, because you've got 287 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 5: to really let the dog grow so speak How. 288 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: Do you know when he's onto something like I've heard 289 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: the dogs at the airport will sit next to the luggage. 290 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 5: And you know what, they're all different, they're all unique 291 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 5: in the way they do it. But as a handler, 292 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 5: you are looking for classic indications and it's about. 293 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: A bark and no barking with these dogs. 294 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 5: It's about head movement, it's about change and in his 295 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 5: posture and the. 296 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: Way it's to you as a handler. 297 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 5: Because we run off, we run off a long lead, 298 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: so we'd be ten to fifteen meters behind the dog. 299 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 5: He's in a harness and we're tracking along with a 300 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 5: long lead and we're casting him across an area to 301 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 5: try and understand or see a change of behavior. 302 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: Right, that's why you have to know the dogs. 303 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: So absolutely we. 304 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 3: Won't borrow some of them for the kids at Westfield, 305 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: you know when the kids run off for me at 306 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: the shop. All right, Jackie in too longest to wrap 307 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 3: things up, jack wats your question for the paper. 308 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 7: It was just pretty much more like the training actually 309 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 7: as the police officer, is what you need to be 310 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 7: doing to actually be a dog handler? 311 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: Like what do you go through once you go through 312 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: the academy? 313 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? 314 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 5: Absolutely for what four years you were saying, we want 315 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 5: to we want a minimum of that, and it's really 316 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 5: just to because we're going to ask them to work 317 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 5: on their own but out there making good decision makers. 318 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: So they've got to have that really. 319 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: Good background in policing and understanding of the role before 320 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 5: we put him into this, because this is a completely 321 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 5: different dynamic now we're asking him to perform. 322 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Locky here is pretty fit. 323 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: It is absolutely fascinating, isn't it. Yeah, we love the 324 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: Victorian Police amazing this morning. 325 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Mark, You've no good job, sir. 326 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, thank you. 327 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: Good luck Locky with your new pup that you've got 328 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: on the way. 329 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: He's bloody adorable, isn't he? 330 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 4: And Riggs you're so cute. 331 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Look at that sloppy little now. I was talking about 332 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: Riggs when I said he's adorable. Lucky is too. But yeah, 333 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: the gonna be good. 334 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: Jason Lauren Jason Lauren Wake Up Feeling Good on number 335 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: one hundred. 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