1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From the news Zoom and news Still come to you. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Good day there, I'm Andrew Bucalo and how You've got 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 2: to check out this article on news dot com dot 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: you about Keith Urban hanging up on an Adelaide radio show. 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: He was mid interview at the time when the host 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: asked him a bit of a personal question about his wife, 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Nicole Gidman. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 3: What does Keith Urban think when he sees his beautiful 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: wife with beautiful younger men like zac Efron having these 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: beautiful love scenes on TV and radio? 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 4: Why has that happened? What's just happened to you? He's 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 4: disconnected from zoom? Did he just hang up? 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: I think his team hang up on offs because they 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: didn't want us to ask that question. 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 4: Really, yeah, that's to ask that. 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Nuh Oh, it's a little bit awkward, isn't that to 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: You can get the full story in news dot com 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: at dot AU. While you're there, you can also read 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: our article about only fans going up for sale? 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: How about we all pitch in by it together? That 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: wouldn't that be a bit of fun. 23 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: In today's episode, will tell you how much the owner 24 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: wants for it, and then we're going to chat to 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: a former OnlyFans star who's going to reveal the most 26 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: bizarre request she ever got from a customer. Trust me, 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: it will blow your mind. Only Fans was created in 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen by British entrepreneur Tim Stokely. He was in 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: his mid thirties at the time and used a ten 30 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: thousand pound loan from his dad to launch the business. 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: Thanks Dad. 32 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: Now, Only Fans allowed creators to control their own income 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: through direct fan subscriptions, with Only Fans taking a twenty 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: percent cut of all creators' earnings. At first, explicit content 35 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 2: was banned, but that policy was quickly scrapped. In twenty eighteen, 36 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: a Ukrainian American man by the name of Leonard Radbinsky 37 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: bought the business for an undisclosed amount, rumoured to be 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: less than ten million bucks. At the time, OnlyFans wasn't 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: very big, but that all changed in twenty twenty thanks 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: to the COVID pandemic, with the user and creator base 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: growing by seventy five percent in the space of a 42 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: few months. The site gained massive media attention and became 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: a cultural phenomenon, with references in songs, movies, and TV 44 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: shows including The Simpsons. No The site has made Leonard 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: Radvinsky an extremely wealthy man in the last three years alone, 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: who's taken dividends of more than one billion US dollars, 47 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: and business continues to boom. 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: According to the Only Fans CEO, we have. 49 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Three hundred million fans worldwide, three million content creators. We've 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: actually paid out over twenty billion to creators since we 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: were founded in twenty sixteen. 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: But now, after almost seven years of owning Only Fans, 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: Leonard Radvinsky has had enough. Only Fans is reportedly intoxic 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: sell itself for eight billion dollars. So far, there are 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: two potential buyers who are keen to purchase what is 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 2: arguably the most lucrative adult platform in the world. One 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: person who knows a fair bit about OnlyFans is Lucy Banks. 58 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: She's a former Only Fans star who now runs a 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: marketing agency that helps other creators grow their profiles. 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: Get a Lucy, Hi, Thanks for having me here. It's 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: very exciting to talk to you. 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: Tell me how long ago did you sign up to 63 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 2: Only Fans and what prompted that decision. 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 5: So I started pre pandemic back in twenty nineteen. I 65 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: was in a position where I was a newly divorced 66 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 5: single mom. I had two young kids, and I actually 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 5: come from a banking background and I was doing sixty 68 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 5: hour weeks one of the big four banks, and I 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 5: remember just looking at my I had two really young 70 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: kids at the time. They were in daycare a lot, 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 5: and I had a moment one evening when one of 72 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 5: my sons said to me that do we have to 73 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 5: go to daycare tomorrow? And I just just haad this 74 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 5: look at his eye and it just broke me. I 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: was like, I can't do this anymore. And so I 76 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 5: jumped over to only Fans because I had a girlfriend 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 5: that was doing it. And that just seems so wild 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: to anybody, because I've never even been to a strip 79 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: club like it was. 80 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was doing. I was 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: so out of my depth. But yeah, I was really 82 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: lucky to get. 83 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 5: In it at a time where I rode the wave 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: of only fans during the pandemic And. 85 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: What kind of if, I can ask, what kind of 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: content were you doing just like solo or with other people? 87 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 5: So the beauty of only fans is that it's all 88 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 5: within your control. So initially I started, I didn't even 89 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 5: have my face in it. It was all very prudish, really, 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 5: but it's a slippery slope. So then as I became 91 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 5: more and more comfortable, my content became more and more explicit, 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 5: but it was at a pace that I was comfortable 93 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 5: to do it. I was like, look, I know I 94 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 5: can charge more if I make this content, so that's 95 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 5: what I'm going to do. 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: So at the height of your Only Fans, like, how 97 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: much effort were you putting into generating content? 98 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 5: At my peak, I was easily doing twelve hours the day, easy, 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: if not more. But the advantage of that is that I. 100 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: Could do it around the kids. 101 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 5: So I'd get up in the morning, get them ready 102 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 5: for the school, take them to school, and then I'd 103 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 5: work that entire time, spend the afternoon with them, and 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 5: then I'd be up to midnight, early hours of the 105 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 5: morning on Only Fans. So I definitely put in more 106 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: hours doing Only Fans as opposed to the Bank. But 107 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 5: the beauty of it was that it was flexible. So 108 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 5: I'm happy to work hard. I just have to do 109 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 5: it around the kids because that's my priority. 110 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: When you're on Only Fans, people often pay extra to 111 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: their favorite creators for custom videos. What is the most 112 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: random or bizarre request that you got from a customer. 113 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I have two. 114 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 4: Okay. 115 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: The first one was I had someone that loved elbows. 116 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 5: So he would pay me for custom photos of my elbows. 117 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 5: No nudity included, but there's and I did not know this, 118 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: there is an art to taking elbow photos. 119 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: So you have to get the back of it, you know, 120 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: the flex frian. 121 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 5: To the new You know, I had this whole album 122 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 5: of elbow photos with nothing, nothing sexy, or apparently my 123 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 5: elbows was sexy, but I that was you're honestly, you 124 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 5: think you hear it all and then someone messages you 125 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: and you're like, wow, that's a new one. 126 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: The second one was, I've spoken about this before. 127 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 5: I had a custom request to oil myself up and 128 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 5: slide across my kitchen bench like a city l like 129 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 5: a dolphin. 130 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: And that was the best fun. Like, I think you've 131 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: paid it. I think it was three hundred. 132 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 5: Dollars US for that, and it maybe lasted thirty seconds, 133 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 5: and I'm not really sure what the kink was behind that, 134 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: but it was a lot of fun. 135 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 4: Olive oil is expensive. 136 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: I hope you use something cheaper than that, and didn't 137 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: waste all the money on the supplies. 138 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't. I can't remember what I used. 139 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 5: Actually maybe I don't think it was olive oil, maybe baby. 140 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: Oil, Lucy, if you're happy to tell me, Like, how 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: much money did you make from only fans while you 142 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: were on it? 143 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 5: So in my it fluctuated like I definitely to begin 144 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 5: with didn't put as much effort in as I did 145 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 5: at the end of my time, But ultimately I made 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 5: over a million dollars from only fairs. Yeah, I think 147 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 5: it's probably closer to one point five, but conservatively a million. 148 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: Jesus, that is good money over what kind of time 149 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: was that? A couple of years? 150 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 5: So I was on the platform for four years, but 151 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 5: the bulk of that I made within two years. 152 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: I had good job. You mentioned kids before. You've got 153 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: three kids, and you weld all worried about them or 154 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: their friends coming across your spicier content in the future. 155 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: My eldest does know about it, and somebody told him, 156 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 5: which I was always accused from people being like, you know, 157 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 5: you're exposing your kids to this, and you know what 158 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: happens if they find out they didn't know. I was 159 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: so careful to make sure that they were shielded from everything. 160 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: You know, what's the saying like, don't let your kids 161 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 5: get wet in your storm. So it was something I 162 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 5: was always very careful Aboutn't fair that somebody else told him, 163 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 5: but he was so cool about it. I had a 164 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: conversation with him, and he's like, it's fine. People who 165 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 5: were things for money? 166 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: Have you heard of hit Man? 167 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 5: He's like, Then he started he's very entrepreneurial, my oldest, 168 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 5: and then he started trying to talk to me about 169 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 5: He's like, okay, so how much you charge for your 170 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 5: subscribers because if we increase your subscription price? 171 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: I mate, I'm not having this conversation with you. 172 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 5: Stop. 173 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: How old would this time? 174 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: I think he was ten or eleven at this time. 175 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, he's just very and that's where he gets 176 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 5: it from me, very entrepreneurial. And I was really, I 177 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 5: guess lucky to get out at a time where it 178 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 5: was before they got too old, because it is something 179 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 5: that is a concern obviously. And again I had this 180 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 5: conversation with my eldest. I was like, what happens if 181 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 5: you know someone something to you at school? When he's 182 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 5: like Walter turned around and say, yeah, your mom tried 183 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: to do it, but shouldn't make any money. 184 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I'll be okay stick around. 185 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: In just a moment, Lucy's gonna tell us the real 186 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: reason why she quit. Only Fans Welcome Back. 187 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: I am chatting to Lucy Banks, who used to be 188 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: an Only Fans content creator. Tell me, Lucy, why did 189 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: you quit? 190 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 5: I always said that I would do it until it 191 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: wasn't fun for me anymore. 192 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: And I got to a stage in my. 193 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 5: Life where there's a bit of uncertainty around the platform, 194 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 5: and you know, they're warnings, and my. 195 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Kids were getting older. 196 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: I was at a new stage of my life and 197 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: I just found myself resenting it and dreading making content. 198 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is my point. 199 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 5: I'm recognizing that this isn't fun for me anymore, so 200 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 5: it's time to stop. I was at my peak when 201 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 5: I stopped, so it was hard to walk away. It's 202 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 5: like when you work on the mines or something. It's 203 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: those golden handcuffs, so I can't go get another job 204 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: that earns this amount of money. And now I've got 205 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 5: a property in mortgages that I have to keep servicing. 206 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: So it was a hard decision, but it was. 207 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: The right one to make, and I honestly I haven't 208 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 5: credited it. 209 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: I don't miss it at all. 210 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: I feel like I did my time and now I 211 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 5: feel like everything's come full circle. Now I'm in a 212 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 5: position where I'm helping other people do what I did, 213 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 5: but I didn't have someone's hand to hold whereas they 214 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 5: do now. 215 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's talk about that. 216 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: You set up your own business called Million Billion Media, 217 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: Tell me all about it. Yeah. 218 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 5: So a huge part of my Only Fans success was 219 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 5: me being in the media. So you can google Lucy Banks. 220 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 5: It still comes up all my old articles. Whether that's 221 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 5: a good thing or not, I don't know, but it's 222 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: that was a huge part of my success. I was 223 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 5: the only Only Fans creator that was leveraging the media 224 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:43,479 Speaker 5: and the news. 225 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: To get my name out there. 226 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 5: And I tried to find a marketing agency and a 227 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: publicist here in Australia to work with during that time, 228 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 5: and nobody would work with me because nobody wanted to 229 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 5: be associated with an Only Fans creator. 230 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: So I learned it myself and I made. 231 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 5: Really good connections in the media and I just thought, 232 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 5: there's there's something here. There's a huge gap in the market. 233 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people look at only Fans 234 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 5: creators and they roll their eyes, are like, Okay, these 235 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 5: like stupid girls. I don't know what they're doing and 236 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 5: they're very underestimated the time the effort the business out 237 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 5: came and that goes into it. It's so competitive, So 238 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 5: let's start ask you the question, Okay, why these top 239 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 5: creators where they are? 240 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: How are they doing that? 241 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 5: So we at million billion Media, we do the pr 242 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: we do news articles, podcast media, but we also focus 243 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 5: on their SEO strategy and exit strategies as well. It's like, okay, 244 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 5: only fans creators are quite similar to athletes. Really, It's 245 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: like you've got this window where you've got a lot 246 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 5: of eyes on you and you're making a lot of money. 247 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 5: How are we going to set you up so that 248 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 5: four or five years can help you for the next 249 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 5: chan to twenty years and build on the attention that 250 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: you've got. 251 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 4: So how many clients do you have nowadays? 252 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: So we've had up to twenty clients at the moment, 253 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: we're at five, and I really like that. 254 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 5: I'd rather go deeper with the clients that we do 255 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 5: have instead of wider. However, We've got such a strong network, 256 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 5: and I realized a few months ago that a lot 257 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 5: of people want to work with million billion, but they 258 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 5: may not necessarily be in a position that they're ready 259 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 5: for PR and marketing. So outside of those five clients 260 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 5: that we have, we also have a membership where you 261 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 5: pay like a one off fee, you join a private 262 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 5: discord and everything I know from the industry is in 263 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 5: that discord, and there's constant opportunities and brand deals and 264 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: things like. 265 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: That as well. 266 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 5: We really launched it a few weeks ago, but we've 267 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: got about sixty people in there so far. So five clients, 268 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 5: but then our outer network is really strong and engaged 269 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: as well. 270 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: Well. 271 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: If you want all of Lucy's secrets, all you got 272 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: to do is go to wear business website Million Billionmedia 273 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: dot com. 274 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: Lucybanks, thanks for chatting to from the newsroom. 275 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. 276 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: How interesting was that I had no idea that people 277 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: would pay money for a photo of an elbow. I'm 278 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: not on only fans myself, but hey, if you want 279 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: a photo of mine, look me up on Instagram, make 280 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: me an offer. I was thinking five bucks per elbow. 281 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm not going to give them both away at once. 282 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: Come on, are you dreaming? All right, that's it for 283 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: today's episode. I will chat to you again tomorrow. 284 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 4: Follow us, subscribe to from the newsroom wherever you get 285 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 4: your podcasts.