WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 27 March

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<v Speaker 1>Late Wait, general, welcome, late.

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<v Speaker 2>Turbay, good evening and thanks for joining us on the

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<v Speaker 2>Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe

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<v Speaker 2>hildebrandsitting in for Caleb Bond coming up tonight. If you

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<v Speaker 2>thought breakdancing was a silly sport at the Paris Games,

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<v Speaker 2>wait until you hear what they've got planned for LA

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus when we get.

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<v Speaker 2>To the papers, new South Wales barristers to be trained

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<v Speaker 2>in trans issues and a former South Australian Liberal leader

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<v Speaker 2>facing up to ten years in jail after pleading guilty

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<v Speaker 2>to supplying drugs. All of that coming up shortly, but first,

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<v Speaker 2>with Peter Dutton's Budget reply speech done tonight, the battle

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<v Speaker 2>lines have well and truly been drawn. All that remains

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<v Speaker 2>is for Anthony Albanezi to call the election, and for

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<v Speaker 2>a moment today it seemed like he had. While Parliament

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<v Speaker 2>was still sitting the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet

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<v Speaker 2>tweeted that the governor had the government rather had entered

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<v Speaker 2>into caretaker mode. Anthony Albanezi went on ABC Radio to

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<v Speaker 2>say no, no, no, haven't called the election just yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's imminent.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a birthday in May, so I just need

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<v Speaker 4>to know which weekends I'm keeping free.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, well it will be in May.

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<v Speaker 2>I can guarantee that, and it'll be called pretty imminently

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not calling it today, but I will call

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<v Speaker 2>it soon. Typically an election is called on a Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>but most people are tipping Elbanezi will go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Governor General tomorrow for two reasons. Firstly, the Governor General

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<v Speaker 2>is away most of the weekend, so it would make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>To go on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>But second it would take the wind out of coverage

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<v Speaker 2>of Peter Dutton's Budget reply speech, which we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>in just a moment. But first, Liz, do you care

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<v Speaker 2>when the election is held? Is this something that you're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting with baited breath to find out?

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<v Speaker 1>When's your birthda fifth of June?

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<v Speaker 5>Send all gifts and crane to live is too care of?

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<v Speaker 5>I reckon that most people who do pay attention to

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<v Speaker 5>the media, which is not the vast majority of Australians.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so when it comes to politics anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>will be surprised to know it hasn't already been called.

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<v Speaker 5>This campaign feels like it's been happening for weeks, if

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<v Speaker 5>not already. Indeed, and of course he's got to call

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<v Speaker 5>it now because he's run out of time. There's no

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<v Speaker 5>window left. So this is hardly a surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe, You've got the Prime Minister's yet, No will we

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<v Speaker 2>call the election?

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<v Speaker 1>We might even call me No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>And that is the absolute honest truth in terms of

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<v Speaker 6>what anything I've been told.

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<v Speaker 1>But everything that I.

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<v Speaker 6>Have understood from various people was that it was going

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<v Speaker 6>to be April twelve, or possibly even brought forward to

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<v Speaker 6>April the fifth, so as not to eat in to

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<v Speaker 6>pass over.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is at a time when you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have the.

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<v Speaker 6>Anti Semitism crisis front and center, and then of course

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<v Speaker 6>Cyclone Alfred happened. And the earliest you could have it

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<v Speaker 6>after that is the third of May because of school holidays, Easter,

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<v Speaker 6>Anzac Day, et cetera, et cetera, And that is indeed

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<v Speaker 6>when it will be. So if I was on Triple

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<v Speaker 6>M Hobart, I would say, Prime Minister, my birthday is

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<v Speaker 6>the third of May. It's a Saturday. Should I be

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<v Speaker 6>having a sausage sizzle? And I think that's well be

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<v Speaker 6>It makes perfect sense. Like Liz says, the election campaign

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<v Speaker 6>has been going on forever, forever, forever already. Some people,

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<v Speaker 6>interestingly enough have said that maybe, and this is maybe

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<v Speaker 6>a bit too three D or four D chess, that

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<v Speaker 6>maybe the April dates were deliberately put out there to

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<v Speaker 6>kind of get Peter Dutton to sort of peak too

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<v Speaker 6>early and sort of string out the coalition. And it's

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<v Speaker 6>various canis for as long as possible, and I hope

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<v Speaker 6>that they would run out of ideas, run out of

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<v Speaker 6>things to say, run out of momentum, and indeed maybe

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<v Speaker 6>stumble and make a few gaps towards the end. So

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<v Speaker 6>that is one possibility. I know certainly there is a

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<v Speaker 6>thought in the thought in the labor camp and that

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<v Speaker 6>they're feeling much more bullish than they were. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>a few months ago they were like lining up at

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<v Speaker 6>the top of the cliff, you know. But but now

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<v Speaker 6>there's actually a really strong set that actually we've got this,

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<v Speaker 6>We've got Peter Dutton's measure.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't really have anything to offer. We've just got

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<v Speaker 1>to hold the ship.

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<v Speaker 6>Together and something I believed or not people are actually

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<v Speaker 6>talking about, maybe even not minority government. I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that to the majority and an increased majority.

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<v Speaker 6>So he said that to Donas and you would say

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<v Speaker 6>that to you would say that to people who you're

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<v Speaker 6>asking to give your money, and we can. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>not that the two have anything to do with each other,

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<v Speaker 6>but that we will be in charge when it comes

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<v Speaker 6>to making decisions, not effect.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to Peter Dutton's Budget reply speech, which he

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<v Speaker 2>gave just a couple of hours ago. There were sort

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<v Speaker 2>of four areas that he focused on energy costs, housing,

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living and social cohesion. But I want to

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<v Speaker 2>start where he finished tonight because he used the line

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll be hearing a lot of in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>He was asking, can Australians are four more than another

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<v Speaker 2>three years of a labor government?

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<v Speaker 7>Australians are worse off under the Albansi government and Australians

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<v Speaker 7>cannot afford three more years of this bad labor government.

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<v Speaker 7>I say to Australians tonight, at this election, you can

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<v Speaker 7>make the right choice, a better choice for you, a

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<v Speaker 7>better choice for your family, and a better choice for

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<v Speaker 7>your country. Together, let's build a stronger, safer and better Australia,

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<v Speaker 7>and let's together get our country back on track.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good line.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't afford another three years of labor when everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>struggling with cost of living. Pitted up and described Labour's

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<v Speaker 2>energy policy is quote unquote a train wreck, and was

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<v Speaker 2>quick to remind Australians though were promised a price reduction

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<v Speaker 2>of electricity two hundred and seventy five dollars, but instead

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<v Speaker 2>prices have gone up one thousand, three hundred dollars. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the only thing that's gone up.

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<v Speaker 7>Your bills tell the true story of Labour's cost of

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<v Speaker 7>living crisis. And here's the facts of the Albanesi government's

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<v Speaker 7>economic record. Rents are up by eighteen percent, housing is

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<v Speaker 7>up by fourteen percent, groceries up by staggering thirty percent,

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<v Speaker 7>electricity is up by thirty two percent, and assurance is

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<v Speaker 7>up for many households and businesses by thirty five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Liz, there's just no arguing with that.

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<v Speaker 2>As Peter Dutton says, your bills tell you the story

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<v Speaker 2>of the past three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want more of that or do you want

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<v Speaker 3>something different?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Yeah, don't take my word for it. Just check

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<v Speaker 5>out your bills over the last few years. Look I

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<v Speaker 5>would have loved to see him go stronger on quite

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of these issues, and as we know, most

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<v Speaker 5>of these aren't paying attention to the budget speech much

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<v Speaker 5>less the budget in reply speech. It's it's the marketing campaigns.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the election campaigns that then springboard off that and

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<v Speaker 5>quote themselves line for line ad nauseum for weeks on

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<v Speaker 5>end until people go to the polls. But in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of immigration, that being a big one. Dutt says he's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna cut immigration by a quarter for the first two years,

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<v Speaker 5>from one hundred and eighty five thousand to one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and forty thousand for the first two years, and then

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<v Speaker 5>bring it back up to one hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and sixty thousand in years three and four, respectively.

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<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of people would have liked to

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<v Speaker 5>see him go harder there. Really, that's only one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and fifty thousand less immigrants over the course of those

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<v Speaker 5>four years. With regards to refugee and humanitarian intake, he's

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<v Speaker 5>slashing that from twenty thousand to thirteen and a half thousand,

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<v Speaker 5>So that's a really sizeable cut there. But we've got

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<v Speaker 5>the bean on foreign investments. No longer will people from

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<v Speaker 5>overseas be able to buy up property here? That is

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<v Speaker 5>so overdue, it's a joke, but finally happening. The big

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<v Speaker 5>question is why only for two years Dutton? Why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>we just make that permanent. He said he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>cap international students, but didn't say by how much to

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<v Speaker 5>my knowledge. And then, of course the promise to scrap

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<v Speaker 5>forty thousand public servants. The question remains, how is this

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<v Speaker 5>going to go with the population, particularly those people living

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<v Speaker 5>in the seventeen seats that he needs to swing in

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<v Speaker 5>order to put a dent in this Now. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think anyone's realistically suggesting, although I have heard some realistically

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<v Speaker 5>suggest and to those people I say, look, it's free

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<v Speaker 5>to dream. But the likelihood of getting a majority a

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<v Speaker 5>liberal government out of this election is just I can't

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<v Speaker 5>believe anyone's talking about that, like it's remotely possible. By

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<v Speaker 5>an act of God, they could get a minority government,

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<v Speaker 5>but goodness knows, even that would be a miracle. So

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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the day, as much as this

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<v Speaker 5>is a much much better budget for me, it almost

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter what DUTs promise is At this point when

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<v Speaker 5>you look at the numbers, that's how big a dent

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<v Speaker 5>you've got to make, and it just looks so unrealistic.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm keen to find out from you that the battle

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<v Speaker 2>between the tax cuts promised by elban Easy and the

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<v Speaker 2>fuel excise cut promised by Dutton. Dutton has said he

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<v Speaker 2>will not go ahead with the tax cut promised by

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<v Speaker 2>Alban Easy.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's being.

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<v Speaker 2>Accused of what you want to raise taxes in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the cost of living crisis, He says, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>Labour have put us a trillion point two in debt.

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<v Speaker 2>We just can't afford tax reform. But will the fuel

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<v Speaker 2>excise which applies immediately be more appealing than a five

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<v Speaker 2>dollar a week tax cut starting in fifteen months from now.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I think it's got more cut through, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think the thing with you know, we talk

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<v Speaker 6>about powerbills now, the power bell is probably not your

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<v Speaker 6>biggest expense when you're running a household.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be things like petrol.

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<v Speaker 6>It would be things like you rent your mortgage, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>putting food on the table. But it's the thing you

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<v Speaker 6>notice the most because you open it every month or

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<v Speaker 6>every three months and think, Holy crap that has just

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<v Speaker 6>jumped through the roof. And that of course where we

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<v Speaker 6>get the term bills right. So, and the same thing

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<v Speaker 6>happens when you go to philp if you're filling up

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<v Speaker 6>on a particularly bad day in the cycle and you

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<v Speaker 6>know that suddenly you're looking at you know, it's only

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<v Speaker 6>just fairly recently where we're all started looking at triple figures.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been unthinkable.

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<v Speaker 6>Just a few years ago that people think, holy crap,

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<v Speaker 6>And so it sticks in your mind as a kind

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<v Speaker 6>of lightning rod of discontent. Obviously, the tax carts will

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<v Speaker 6>deliver much more money in people's pockets and over a

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<v Speaker 6>much longer period of time. So in terms of it's

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<v Speaker 6>a bit like delayed gratific cashing. Now do you want

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<v Speaker 6>your you know, do you want one lollipop now or

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<v Speaker 6>to wait a year and you get two lollipops. But

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's just difficult, like Liz says, structurally, it

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<v Speaker 6>is just such an incredibly difficult mountain that Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 6>and the Coalition have to climb, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>they are you know, eight nine seats down in the

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<v Speaker 6>Parliament and that people are actually talking about them being

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<v Speaker 6>able to come back and after one term for the

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<v Speaker 6>first time almost a century, like look the Great Depression

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<v Speaker 6>and a labor schism. For that to be able to

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<v Speaker 6>happen to James Scullen's government, I think it was better

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<v Speaker 6>it was at Watson's anyway, point being it is very

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<v Speaker 6>very difficult to see how they can do that, And

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's also a sense in the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 6>that they have got the wobbles have stopped, the death

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<v Speaker 6>spiral has stopped, you know, they were dive bombing. They've

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<v Speaker 6>now sort of flattened out. They're now starting to pull

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<v Speaker 6>back up and it looks like Dutton has the College

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<v Speaker 6>has lost a bit of momentum, so that I think

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<v Speaker 6>is about where we sort of start. But then, of

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<v Speaker 6>course anything can happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's the other interesting part about Dutton's speech tonight

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<v Speaker 2>was he talked quite a bit about social cohesion.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, indeed, he wasn't going to pass up an opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>to take on the weak leadership of the alb and

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<v Speaker 5>Ezy government on this particular issue across the board throughout

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<v Speaker 5>the entirety of their tenure. Here he is talking about that.

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<v Speaker 7>It started with the Prime Minister's voice referendum which sought

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<v Speaker 7>to divide our country by ancestry and race. He then

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<v Speaker 7>left a vacuum of leadership following the prime wave in

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<v Speaker 7>Alice Springs and the anti Semitism on the steps of

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<v Speaker 7>the Sydney Opera House. All too often the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 7>is too late and too equivocal. This government has released

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<v Speaker 7>three hundred hard core criminals from immigration to Tension into

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<v Speaker 7>the community, with more than a third having reoffended against

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<v Speaker 7>Australian citizens. It granted tourist visas to three thousand people

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<v Speaker 7>from a terrorist controlled warzone, conducted without security checks that

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<v Speaker 7>should have been put in place. It's failed to deter

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<v Speaker 7>people smugglers trying to reach our shores by illegal boats.

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<v Speaker 7>It's turned a blind eye when our military personnel have

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<v Speaker 7>been endangered. And it didn't stand up for our country

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<v Speaker 7>when Chinese communist warships entered our warders without notice, and

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<v Speaker 7>it relied on Virgin Australia pilots to alert us to

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<v Speaker 7>the Chinese Navy's life fire exercise of our coast.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure that list was a lot longer and they

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<v Speaker 5>just had to pick their favorites out of the lot.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean goodness, me he could have done his whole

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<v Speaker 5>budget rep live speech, though it doesn't exactly between into

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<v Speaker 5>the budget, but good on him for not passing up

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<v Speaker 5>the opportunity he could have.

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<v Speaker 6>But that is one of the other problems that Dunton faces.

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<v Speaker 6>And again this is something both the liberal and the

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<v Speaker 6>Labor Party's face, but that he's kind of boxed in.

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<v Speaker 6>If he comes across as too much of a strong man,

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<v Speaker 6>too much like Donald Trump, he risks putting off female

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<v Speaker 6>voters and teal voters and.

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<v Speaker 1>Small ld moderate Libs.

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<v Speaker 6>But again, if he doesn't go hard enough and strong

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<v Speaker 6>enough his bass and people like you say, well, hang

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<v Speaker 6>on a minute, what's the difference between him and the

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<v Speaker 6>labor parties?

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<v Speaker 2>Then for one second, because he raised a really good point.

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<v Speaker 2>He's accused of, you know, being like Trump in some

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<v Speaker 2>of his policies. But did you notice tonight he compared

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<v Speaker 2>himself to John Howard.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that a deliberate thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think to try and head off the comparisons

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<v Speaker 2>with Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>Everyone is compared, Everyone compares themselves to John Howard. But

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<v Speaker 6>easy was comparing himself to John Howard at the last

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<v Speaker 6>election of John However, I was like, no.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing but yes, I think it's very deliberate.

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<v Speaker 6>I think being like Trump was a really really good

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<v Speaker 6>thing three months ago when labor was at its absolute

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<v Speaker 6>doldrums and Trump was riding high and hadn't made any

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<v Speaker 6>big decisions yet. And being like Donald Trump is we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to find out in the next topic, is now

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<v Speaker 6>actually a really bad thing for a leader to be

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<v Speaker 6>in the lead up to an election.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, speaking of Donald Trump, he just announce it twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five percent tariff. I think at this point it would

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<v Speaker 5>be a shorter story if we just list the countries

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<v Speaker 5>and products that don't. That's right, twenty five tariff here.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise, tariff on everything.

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<v Speaker 5>Tariff this time he's announced it on all cars coming

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<v Speaker 5>into the state. So of course this has countries like Canada,

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<v Speaker 5>like the European Union, Japan, they're all up in Ar'm saying, well,

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<v Speaker 5>excuse me, this is a massive issue for us. We

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<v Speaker 5>send a lot of cars your way. But this is

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<v Speaker 5>an America first president and he's making sure that the

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<v Speaker 5>car manufacturers in America are going to be bolstered under

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<v Speaker 5>his administration.

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<v Speaker 8>Here he is, so we'll effectively be charging a twenty

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<v Speaker 8>five percent tariff. But if you build your car in

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<v Speaker 8>the United States, there's no tariff. And what that means

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<v Speaker 8>is a lot of foreign car companies, a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>companies are going to be in great jap because they've

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<v Speaker 8>already built their plant.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy's fast becoming even more famous than he already

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<v Speaker 5>is for this really unconventional use of tariffs. He's got

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<v Speaker 5>one for everybody, but he does. He does love a tariff.

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<v Speaker 9>And I say, the most beautiful word in the entire

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<v Speaker 9>dictionary of words is the word tariff.

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<v Speaker 1>I love tariff.

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<v Speaker 9>I can make anybody do anything through the use of tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I can keep people out of war. I can keep

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<v Speaker 1>us out of war. The word tariff is the most beautiful.

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<v Speaker 9>I think I'll do this just so I don't get

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<v Speaker 9>myself in trouble. I'm going to say the third most

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<v Speaker 9>beautiful love and religion, and then the word tariff.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the word tariff.

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<v Speaker 5>Love, religion, tariff. They all go to get He's so

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<v Speaker 5>God hopeing tariff's and the grace of these is tariff's.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed.

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<v Speaker 5>So, I mean, everyone's always known this long before he

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<v Speaker 5>became president. You can watch videos of Donald Trump saying

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<v Speaker 5>twenty years ago, this is what I would do if

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<v Speaker 5>I was president of this country, I would slap these

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<v Speaker 5>tariffs on absolutely everybody, make all American manufacturers first, Let's

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<v Speaker 5>just make the most We've got this huge market here.

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<v Speaker 5>We're the ones who are going to benefit from it

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<v Speaker 5>more than anybody else. And he is absolve. I've lost

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<v Speaker 5>count of.

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<v Speaker 2>The well early indications that it might work in helping

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<v Speaker 2>to inspire American manufacturing. Rolls Royce announced that they will

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<v Speaker 2>open new plants in the United States. Of course they're

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<v Speaker 2>not just building cars, but they're building engines for aeroplanes.

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<v Speaker 2>Vogswagon have announced they are looking at opening factories in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, particularly for Audi and Porsche vehicles, which

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<v Speaker 2>they sell. But these taffs will apply to half of

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<v Speaker 2>all cars sold in the United States currently and a

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<v Speaker 2>sixty percent of car parts that are used in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States.

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<v Speaker 6>How amazingly visionary and forward thinking of it was for

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<v Speaker 6>the Abbot government to shut.

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<v Speaker 1>Down the Australian order industry. That was really ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball.

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<v Speaker 6>But yes, well, the reason why, a large part of

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<v Speaker 6>the reason why Trump got locked in twenty sixteen was

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<v Speaker 6>because of Mexico, especially car makers outsourcing their production to

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<v Speaker 6>mexicoss the board and just across the border where labor

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<v Speaker 6>costs were much much lower obviously, and they could produce

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<v Speaker 6>cars that were made in America until yesterday right next door,

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<v Speaker 6>so the transfer costs of negative bill as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And away you go.

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<v Speaker 6>And that really that is almost the definition of the

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<v Speaker 6>cause of the sort of rust belt, you know, that

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<v Speaker 6>was that is what turned Detroit into a hellscape. It's

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<v Speaker 6>what it's and it was the example of what's so

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<v Speaker 6>unfair about you know, neoliberalism or free free market economics.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is the amazing thing, Like the idea that

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<v Speaker 6>you would have a Republican candidate campaigning on just tariffs

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<v Speaker 6>for everybody would have just been nuts, you know, just

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<v Speaker 6>a few years ago, the idea that the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 6>is now the party of tariffs and the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 6>now the.

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<v Speaker 1>Party of free trade.

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<v Speaker 6>That is a complete and utter, one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 6>degree reversal of where the parties used to be ideological.

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<v Speaker 6>This is, i reckon, the biggest thing to happen since

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the Democrats were the party.

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<v Speaker 1>Of segregation and slavery.

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<v Speaker 6>And the Republicans were the party of emancipation.

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<v Speaker 1>It is incredible, incredible turnaround.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, while Trump reorders the global economy. He's also making

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<v Speaker 2>a massive difference to women's sport. We'll talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>World Athletics Association, which has just made a big announcement

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<v Speaker 2>in the last day or two. But before we get

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<v Speaker 2>to that, here's Donald Trump talking about trans issues, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>as it pertains to female sports.

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<v Speaker 9>No matter how many surgeries you have or chemicals you inject,

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<v Speaker 9>if you're born with male DNA and every cell of

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<v Speaker 9>your body, you can never become a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to be a woman.

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<v Speaker 9>And that's why last month they proudly signed a historic

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<v Speaker 9>executive order to ban men from competing in women's sports.

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<v Speaker 9>And it was very popular.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course announcements like that mean we can finally

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<v Speaker 2>say goodbye to things like this.

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<v Speaker 5>To give it are you going very brig.

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, all of this came to a head at

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<v Speaker 2>the Paris Games when a boxer of questionable gender won

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<v Speaker 2>the women's boxing, reducing opponents to tears within seconds. That

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<v Speaker 2>caused a massive furor, and then the debate continued.

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<v Speaker 3>The IOC said it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was impossible to decide between a man and a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would love for someone to come up with

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<v Speaker 2>a scientific test. Well, Lord Sebastian Coe, who heads up

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<v Speaker 2>the World Athletics, has said, we've come up with an idea.

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<v Speaker 3>What we're going to do is we're going to take.

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<v Speaker 2>A simple swab of people's saliva and we'll be able

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<v Speaker 2>to determine whether they're male or female and fit to

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<v Speaker 2>compete in women's sport.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll only ever need to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Once in their career, and from now on that's what

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<v Speaker 2>will be happening, at least in athletics, he said overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important to do it because it maintains everything that

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<v Speaker 2>we've been talking about and particularly recently about not just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the integrity of female sport, but actually guaranteeing it.

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<v Speaker 2>We feel this is a really important way of providing

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<v Speaker 2>confidence and maintaining that absolute focus on the integrity of

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<v Speaker 2>the competition. Now this might sound revolutionary, but it's really

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<v Speaker 2>just back to the future because swab tests were routinely

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<v Speaker 2>conducted at the Olympic Games right up until the Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics when the International Olympic Committee abandoned them, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be more inclusive as a result of that, at the

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<v Speaker 2>Rio Games just sixteen years later, This is in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>in the women's eight hundred meters, famously, gold, silver, and

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<v Speaker 2>bronze were won by biological males. Well, that won't be

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<v Speaker 2>happening anymore. The Athletics Association, or rather World Athletics, have

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<v Speaker 2>said from now on, everyone who competes in female sports,

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<v Speaker 2>at least on the track, past that test.

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<v Speaker 5>And importantly this will also differentiate. This test will also

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<v Speaker 5>differentiate between biological women and those who are born with DSD,

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<v Speaker 5>which is difference in sex development, which is the famous

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<v Speaker 5>case that you were alluding to there with the boxing

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<v Speaker 5>at the Olympics. This was someone who was born female,

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<v Speaker 5>grew up female, et cetera, and so on, but had

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<v Speaker 5>all the advantages, not all the advantages, but many of

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<v Speaker 5>the advantages of a male due to having DSD. And

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<v Speaker 5>when you look at the numbers of women who have

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<v Speaker 5>lost in countless now Olympics in different competitions across the board,

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<v Speaker 5>not to transgender athletes, but to athletes with DSD, which

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<v Speaker 5>was giving them an unfair advantage against just your garden

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<v Speaker 5>variety biological female. That too is incredibly important.

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<v Speaker 6>So the swab test you said, it'll be able to

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<v Speaker 6>differentiate between male chromosome. So the DSD athletes would still

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<v Speaker 6>be able to compete in this.

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<v Speaker 5>It says the test will look for the s R

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<v Speaker 5>Y gene, which is part of the Y chromosome and

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<v Speaker 5>causes male characteristics to develop. It goes into detail, but

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<v Speaker 5>it specifically says and explains how.

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<v Speaker 1>Trans or DSD. So even if you're born Yeah, sad.

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<v Speaker 5>It is, but there's no other way to make it.

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<v Speaker 5>Fairs have ever the majority.

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<v Speaker 6>Competing in women's sport. Joe, I thought maybe in the

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<v Speaker 6>female breakdancing I would have been a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone would be a shot in the

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<v Speaker 2>female breakdancing based on what we saw at Paris. No

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<v Speaker 2>disrespect to Reagan, but don't do that. She owns the right.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe.

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<v Speaker 6>I reckon you could give her U one for move

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<v Speaker 6>I am I invented the Melbourne shuffle?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 2>From From Olympic Sport to music, the Queensland Music Awards

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<v Speaker 2>this week caused controversy. In fact, the Brisbane Lord Mayor

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<v Speaker 2>has accused them of being hijacked by extremists after they

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<v Speaker 2>awarded a jazz musician a major prize for a pro

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinian song called River to Sea. Now when the recipient

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<v Speaker 2>of this award. Kelly Green stood up to receive it.

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<v Speaker 2>She then took a minute or more to make a

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<v Speaker 2>speech that was quite anti Israel, pro Palestine.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a listen to what she said.

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<v Speaker 5>We are now a day five thirty five seventy six

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<v Speaker 5>years of the Interroli jediside I guess the people of Palestine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how you already said about the lines by the

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream media in the Western governments secuting Australia.

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<v Speaker 9>Who's the porter of the mass slaughter and they cleansing.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the into an entire race offa.

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<v Speaker 2>She stood up to receive her award, wearing Palestinian colors.

0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 2>She talked about boycotting Israel. She took the term never again,

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 2>which applies to what Jews suffered in the Holocaust, and

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:07.679
<v Speaker 2>used it in favor of Palestinians. And she ended her

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 2>speech by saying, from the river to the sea, Palestine

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>will be free. Now, that's a phrase that among many

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Penny Wong has said it constitutes hate speech, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Albanezi once said it has no place in Australia, and

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:25.679
<v Speaker 2>of course Hamas have co opted that slogan as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So on hearing of this, the Brisbane Lord Mayor announced

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<v Speaker 2>that they would be immediately withdrawing twenty five thousand dollars

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 2>worth of funding for the Queensland music industry. He said,

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 2>allowing such vile hate speech to occur shows the awards

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be no longer capable of achieving their own

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<v Speaker 2>stated goal to promote diversity and inclusion. As a result,

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 2>will be immediately withdrawing our funding and support for these

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 2>awards now. The organizers of the awards claim that when

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.640
<v Speaker 2>they gave the prize to a instrumental piece called River

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>to Sea occurred to them that had anything to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the Middle East conflict. It just was rivet to see.

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<v Speaker 2>It could have meant anything, could have maybe. But then,

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<v Speaker 2>of course when the recipient got up to speak in

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 2>colors appropriating Palestine and then gave that speech, the organizers

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<v Speaker 2>could have put a stop to it at any point.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't, And so the Lord Mayor is saying, why

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<v Speaker 2>should ratepayers be putting money towards this.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I'm a free speech absolutist, as everybody knows, you

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<v Speaker 5>can't have free speech without hate speech and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 5>So which is it? What do you want? I want

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 5>free speech? But what comes with that? Is you are

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 5>not exempt from the consequences of what you say. My

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 5>problem with the mayor coming down on this in the

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<v Speaker 5>way that he has by withdrawing twenty five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>of funding, is that it doesn't punish the woman speaking

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 5>on stage just then.

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<v Speaker 1>Punishment enough.

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<v Speaker 5>It punished polish music who run these awards. It punishes

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<v Speaker 5>the award recipients in years to come, et cetera, and

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 5>so on. So I just don't know a public condemnation. Sure, again,

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 5>his freedom of.

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<v Speaker 6>Speech, it isn't that the whole point. They're not saying

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 6>you don't have the right to say these things. They're

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<v Speaker 6>saying that we are not going to use rate payer

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 6>money or taxpayer public money to pay for an organization

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 6>that platforms these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Or is so incredibly.

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<v Speaker 6>Stupid that when they see the title of a piece

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<v Speaker 6>called river to say.

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>They thought it was elvisco Loco river flow.

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 6>They must have been seeing they when's they going to

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<v Speaker 6>get to the bridge, when's it going to get to

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 6>the bridge?

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<v Speaker 5>They do argue that they had like over five hundred

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 5>entries and therefore, and given this had no lyrics, there

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 5>was no song accompanying it, which.

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Is ironic for someone who apparently has so much to say.

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<v Speaker 5>It's up to everyone as to whether they're being disingenuous

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 5>and they're actually is political activists on the Q Music

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 5>board who were actually like, not wink wink, we knew

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 5>exactly what we were doing. But of course this became

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 5>abundantly clear when the woman got up to wearing what

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 5>she wore and gave the speech that she gave. It

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 5>would have been prudent since you're claiming you had no idea,

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 5>if that's true, to then issue some sort of we

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 5>are deeply apologetic, and the fact that they didn't is

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 5>very I don't want to say telling, because I'm not

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 5>accusing anyone of anything. That's their story. It's up to

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 5>you whether you believe them or not. Who was the

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 5>panel who was listening to these, who were the judges

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 5>who made the decisions on who were the winners, They

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 5>may well be a political actor.

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Rather than apologizing, the CEO of Q Music, Chris Stewart,

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 2>said that there had been some learnings learning from what happened,

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and that they would provide members with an update on

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>changes for next year's awards, not exactly the sort of

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 2>apology that might have warded off the I.

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<v Speaker 6>Just want to know that, like, just imagine if it

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 6>was I always just imagine if it was anything on

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 6>the other side of politics, and how different than like

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 6>imagine if someone had got up and said, thank you

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 6>very much, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Very proud to win this award. From the River to

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the Sea.

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 6>It's actually about how Australia's multicultural experiment has failed and

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 6>foreigner should go back.

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>To where they came from. Thank you very much, Queenslid

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Music Awards. It has been a wonderful image.

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<v Speaker 6>If someone said, and I'd just like to say that

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.719
<v Speaker 6>those dirty fascists in Ukraine really got what they deserved

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 6>when Vladimir Putin taught them a lesson in history, and

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 6>like imagine if like it's just always the same, like

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 6>this is why it's just such a cause to jo

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 6>and I have huge amount of sympathy for the suffering

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 6>that's the Tattani and Palestine, and I have a huge

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 6>amount Obviously I fully believe in Israel's right to exist,

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 6>but I also believe in it solution. I don't want

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 6>anyone wiped out From the River to the Sea, but

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 6>it is just always this one issue that and so

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 6>when people say it's worthy to So why are you

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 6>fixated on this to the exclusion of everything else. Why

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 6>aren't there people getting up and talking about Ukraine. Why

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 6>aren't they talking about the whoties in Yemen? Why aren't

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 6>they talking about you know?

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<v Speaker 2>And I should point out, which I didn't at the opening,

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 2>that the speech that this musician gave wasn't just about

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the conflict now occurring. Accused Israel hasn't admitted genocide since

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 6>This was the other really weird thing, right, I'm going

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 6>to get my geek on here, right, So she said,

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, seventy six years and five hundred and thirty

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 6>five days. Anyone picking up on this, it's actually seventy

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 6>seven years and one hundred and seventy days, right, So

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 6>why did she say five hundred Why did you say

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 6>five hundred and thirty five days and plus seventy six years. Well,

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 6>of course she's talking about October seven, twenty twenty three,

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 6>And so again this fixation with one like you're picking

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 6>the actual date of the terror attack to say, oh, no,

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 6>this is when everything changed. Yeah, when I mus kill

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 6>them kidnapped the worst number of people since the Holocaust.

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>So what is wrong with these.

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<v Speaker 2>People just The state government also contributes about half a

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 2>million dollars to queue music and they have said that

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 2>they will be looking for answers from organizers or they

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>consider what they will do about their fundings.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 5>To another story that will curl the hair and curdle

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 5>the blood. New South Wales Attorney General Michael Daily has

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<v Speaker 5>told victims of domestic abuse, including children, to take appropriate

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 5>measures to keep themselves safe while they figure out what

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 5>the heck is going on with a massive data breach

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 5>they discovered last week which compromised sensitive court documents involving

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 5>nine thousand different court documents involving pretty much as many

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 5>people right here. He is talking today about this breach, saying,

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 5>to be honest, we don't know what's going on with it.

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Last week, while the cyber unit within DCJ was doing

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 4>a routine maintenance HANSE security check of the Justice Link system,

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 4>they detected that some data within that system had changed.

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Upon further examination they had they worked out that an

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 4>account holder within the Justice Link system had gained an

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 4>unlawful entry into that system. What we don't know yet

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 4>is which files were actually accessed, what the hackett did

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 4>with them, whether he or she just viewed them or

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 4>downloaded and shared them.

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 5>In summary, we know nothing, We know nothing. So if

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 5>you think you might be one of these people and

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 5>you and your children are compromised, please get in touch

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 5>with the police and let us know if perhaps you've

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 5>heard from some one and you are under the impression

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 5>that you are amongst this number. The apprehended violence orders

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 5>in AffA David were included in the breach, and most alarmingly,

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 5>just the fact that kids are included in this just

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 5>absolutely makes my blood run cold. How does this kind

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 5>of thing happen when we are told in GNAUS and

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 5>from the government, aren't we Oh, your data is safe

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 5>with us, your data court documents. It doesn't get much

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 5>more private when we're talking about vulnerable people in the

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.959
<v Speaker 5>community that have already survived the worst of the worst,

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 5>and now you're telling them or just take precautions because

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 5>we don't know where this information, highly sensitive as it is,

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 5>has gone intentions.

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't a hacker, was it inside job interested?

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 6>He had an account, a DCJ account, so it sounds

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 6>like someone who actually worked there or someone who is

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.719
<v Speaker 6>using the account of someone who worked there. Obviously, I mean,

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 6>that's in the AG's exact mount So look, I suspect

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 6>it doesn't. Actually, I don't think it was actually a

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 6>giant sort of fishing expedition where a hack has come

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 6>in from outside to try to just trawl through as

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 6>much information as they can and then sell it on

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 6>the black market or whatever. It sounds like someone who

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 6>was actually working at the DCJ, or at least had

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 6>access to a DCJ account, was going in there for

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 6>it would seem purposes, by a particular purpose, that's right,

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 6>and it's just that's that's what I found the most

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 6>creepy about this story.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 2>None of it's funny, but I did have to laugh

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>when the Attorney General said, and I quote, the government's

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.240
<v Speaker 2>taking this seriously because this is a system that stores

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 2>public data securely.

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 1>He's using the wrong tension.

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>The part of that that is strange to me is

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 2>this data hack apparently was last week, was reported to

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 2>police on Tuesday, they closed the account on Wednesday, and

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 2>now they're say going to be another week before they

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 2>know what has really gone on and what information and

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 2>who's been affected.

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, before we get to the break, if you've got.

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 2>An Apple phone like me, you probably use Apple Maps

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 2>or look at the weather on your Apple device. Well,

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Apple have been spending the last four years updating their

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 2>maps so that they can include indigenous place names alongside

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>all the regular place names. And when you check the weather,

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to look for Australia or for Sydney

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 2>or for Melbourne. You can just use the indigenous name

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and it will come up for you. There you can

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>see an example on the screen. It's an interesting development

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 2>by Apple that you don't get a choice whether or

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 2>not your Apple Maps includes this information.

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just going to be there from now on. I

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 3>would have.

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Thought Apple Maps are clogged up enough with names without

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 2>doubling it. But the majority of Australians voted in the

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 2>referendum not to have divisions, and they've got a corporation

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:05.399
<v Speaker 2>and a foreign owned one that forcing division upon us.

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Customers value functionality over a lecture on cultural appreciation. As

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, maps are already cluttered. You're just trying to

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 2>get from A to B without being given all of

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>this other thing.

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I have an Indigenous term for those letters, please James, and.

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 3>On top of that, Joe.

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, sixty percent of place names in Australia are

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>already indigenous names or anglicized versions of Indigenous names.

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Do we really need this? And yeah, purpose.

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't think we do need it strikes me. I mean,

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 6>of course, like I think it's one of those things.

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 6>If people want to use those names or have the

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 6>dual names.

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>That's great.

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 6>I have no problem with it really whatsoever, except for

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 6>the fact that, like I say, it's really cluttered. I'm

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 6>old and so I've got weird by by focal vision

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 6>as it is in some kinds, I'm one of those

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 6>old people who's constantly going, oh, so it's hard.

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Enough for me to make out, well, this.

0:36:55.160 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 6>Is a ags, is what it is. But it's like

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 6>I just again, it just does seem to be a

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 6>bit of an answer to a question that nobody asked,

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 6>Like what is there outcry about this? I'm all for,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, creating new place names. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 6>a place called dan Andong. It's indigenous name, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>The biggest the biggest development in Sydney recently was called

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<v Speaker 6>Braangaroo and all the stations have been given indigenous names.

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<v Speaker 6>Do we really need like, like, I mean, we're kind

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<v Speaker 6>of doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>This seems to me just showing apples, showing up.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey guys, we might be a multi billion dollar company

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<v Speaker 6>that won't hand over information about trolls and abusers, but

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<v Speaker 6>we're really hip.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think lives real quick?

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<v Speaker 5>The short end is no, of course, it's completely unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, it's only going to confuse people. You mean

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<v Speaker 5>to tell me, you're driving around and the names that

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<v Speaker 5>you're seeing on the maps aren't reflecting those on the

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<v Speaker 5>on the street signs and where where you're actually trying

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<v Speaker 5>to get to. It's incredibly confusing. We saw airports do this,

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<v Speaker 5>We saw some mainstream media channels do it, on their

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<v Speaker 5>their weather channels doing it. Indeed, everyone's just sat there going,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even know where you're talking about right now.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're going to go to a break when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, but look at what's making news tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>including New South Wales barristers being trained in trans issues.

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<v Speaker 3>That's coming up in mister c.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. Let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>As you can imagine, most of the newspapers going with

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<v Speaker 2>the dual political story of whether or not Albanezi will

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<v Speaker 2>call an election, and of course reporting on Peter Dutton's

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<v Speaker 2>budget reply speech.

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<v Speaker 6>Joe, that's correct, James. I thought we'd do a bit

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<v Speaker 6>of a whip around, go around the ground, see how

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<v Speaker 6>each of the outlets are covering it. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 6>why not start with the big gun. Let's pull out

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<v Speaker 6>the big dogs straight away. The Canberra Times and Amazing

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<v Speaker 6>spish who spoiler alert is of course a reference to

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet

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<v Speaker 6>appears to have already said that they're in caretaker mode

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<v Speaker 6>and said federal election. PM hints at Paul as Dunton

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<v Speaker 6>call as Deliver's budget reply. But this it was the

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<v Speaker 6>first sentence that really struck me, James and Liz. This

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<v Speaker 6>is why I'm never quite sure what's going on at

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<v Speaker 6>the Camera Times anyway. It says Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi

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<v Speaker 6>is poised to call the federal election today, with May

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<v Speaker 6>three the expected date according to reports.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a little confused. That is a report expected.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a report of calling the.

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<v Speaker 6>Report so you say, according to other newspapers that know

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<v Speaker 6>what's going on, that's what they reckoned.

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<v Speaker 1>This day will turns to make what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Newspaper and camera.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, over to a real newspaper now the Daily Telegraph.

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<v Speaker 6>He says, a nation pleads with its combatants inspire US

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<v Speaker 6>marginal voters holding all power. Well, yeap that I can

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<v Speaker 6>fact check that that's correct. And Dunton's new bid to

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<v Speaker 6>keep the lights on It says, after months of delays,

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<v Speaker 6>speculation and unofficial election campaigning, Anthony Albanesi is today expected

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<v Speaker 6>to end the phony war, visit the Governor general and

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<v Speaker 6>call a May three election comma. According to reports.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they didn't do that so because they just reported

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<v Speaker 1>right for their newspaper. They knew their reporting.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't say what other people just reported anyway. Just

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<v Speaker 6>not a criticism, just a for next time anyway, Harold Son.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course, the other big news court Mark said race

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<v Speaker 6>to the polls, Victoria the key battleground. Yes, I can

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<v Speaker 6>fact check that that is correct as well as PM

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<v Speaker 6>finally set to pull election trigger big v for victory,

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<v Speaker 6>and they've used the old VFL font V, which I

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<v Speaker 6>think is very patriotic.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what victorians call loving Victoria everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Joy will understand that's a reference to AFL.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, AFL when it was real footy, when it

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 6>was the VFL for short.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure how the daniong redlegs going these days? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>still around?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure anyway, I'm going to stop now.

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<v Speaker 3>I was sure if you've finished or not, I'm not sure.

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I never am, you know, I never am.

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<v Speaker 6>All I know is I just disappear and the screen

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 6>fades to black. Sometimes it's just a test pattern, and

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<v Speaker 6>then I know I'm done.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll move on to the Adelaide Advertiser. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>snorty boy, reads the headline from deep fake to deep

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<v Speaker 2>doo doo. David Spears, who of course was a former

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<v Speaker 2>Liberal opposition leader, pleads guilty to supplying drugs. David Spears

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<v Speaker 2>has admitted he was supplying drugs while he was the

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<v Speaker 2>leader of the opposition, and the disgraced XMP is now

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<v Speaker 2>facing up to ten years in jail and a hefty fine.

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>David Spears pleaded guilty to supplying a controlled drug to

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<v Speaker 2>two other people during his final days as Opposition leader

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<v Speaker 2>in August.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, all of this came to.

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<v Speaker 2>The four after an investigation by the Adelaide Advertiser. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of credit needs to go to the editor Jemma Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>because the Advertiser did a great job investigating this. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>when the video you're now watching on screen was first

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<v Speaker 2>brought to light by the advertiser, David Spears at the

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<v Speaker 2>time that it was him insisted it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a deep fake video.

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<v Speaker 2>The advertiser kept digging and eventually, of course it's led

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<v Speaker 2>to charges and now a guilty plea, Liz.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean to try. Do these people not realize nowadays

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<v Speaker 5>we have the technology to find out quite quickly whether

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 5>a video is deep faith. They can run forensics in

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 5>the technical world on a video and be like, yeah,

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 5>this has been doctored, this isn't real, And of course

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 5>it's only going to take the police, which, like you say,

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 5>thanks to the brilliant work by the TiSER, the police

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 5>then got onto it and did due diligence. Of course

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 5>they're going to find out in a few seconds flat

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<v Speaker 5>there's nothing deep fake about this footage.

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<v Speaker 6>Yet again, it's not the crime but the cover up

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<v Speaker 6>that gets it. Although it could be fair, the crime

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<v Speaker 6>probably would have got him anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>Now it's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just ridiculous. You come out, you say, look, I'm

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>terribly sorry. Personal reason had a lot of health is shirt.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, my dog died last week, whatever, whatever, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>stepping down for the good party and away you go.

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll fight this to the end. How could you even

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>insinuate that I would ever do that. But on a

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>personal level, I have to.

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<v Speaker 6>On a human level, I do feel very very sorry

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 6>for what's happened to David Spears. In my opinion, he

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<v Speaker 6>should never have left Sky and gone to the ABC

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<v Speaker 6>because this is.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened the other day.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the other David Spears, Adelaide Radio and the present.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes that's a defamation.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I love it. Spears, he's a great guy. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness. Now now this is when it goes to

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<v Speaker 1>black to the Australian.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the biggest splash reads energy price election. This is

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<v Speaker 5>something we didn't quite get to in segue. Peter Dutton

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 5>will impose an East Coast Gas Reserve reservation rather regime

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<v Speaker 5>to secure up to twenty percent of demand and drive

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 5>down energy prices by decoupling local gas from overseas markets,

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<v Speaker 5>amid election eve warnings that Australia's biggest states will face

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:04.800
<v Speaker 5>gash for shals shortfalls by July. Just an absolute common

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 5>sense move, Thank you, Darton. Hats off for that one.

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<v Speaker 5>But to the story that we alluded to earlier of

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<v Speaker 5>barristers getting trans lessons. Tell me more, you say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I will. New South Wales barristers have been instructed to

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<v Speaker 5>never assume the gender identity of people interacting with the

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<v Speaker 5>court system and are being encouraged to quote start the conversation,

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<v Speaker 5>end quote about preferred pronouns with a witness or client

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<v Speaker 5>in case they feel intimidated to do so themselves. The

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<v Speaker 5>article goes on to say three state judges and Sex

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<v Speaker 5>Discrimination Commissioner and A Cody last month launched the New

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<v Speaker 5>South Wales Bar Associations LGBTIQA plus Language and Pronouns Guide,

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<v Speaker 5>which educates barristers on the importance of addressing stakeholders by

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<v Speaker 5>appropriate pronouns, and the document even provides a glossary of pronouns.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd love to know how fat that glossary is, because,

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<v Speaker 5>as you and I both know, it's getting a little

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 5>bit out of hand, like this should be a remote

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<v Speaker 5>concern of people just trying to do their job, either

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 5>a defense or prosecution. This is something that you have

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<v Speaker 5>to be no, no.

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<v Speaker 6>This has actually got a huge amount of support among

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<v Speaker 6>barristers and the legal fraternity. In fact, barristers have been

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<v Speaker 6>lining up to say yes, they would really love to

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<v Speaker 6>start the conversation about these issues, although that conversation will

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<v Speaker 6>be billed at seven hundred and fifty dollars per six

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<v Speaker 6>right right as they go on, so it will be

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 6>an expensive conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But a very inclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>Conversation with this, of course, is if you're in a

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<v Speaker 2>court of lord, I would have thought truth, yes, really

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<v Speaker 2>really important.

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<v Speaker 1>And what court have you ever been.

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<v Speaker 5>Last?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone's worrying about you, my dreams, but you're expecting truth

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 2>to be the primary issue here, and they begin the

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:05.359
<v Speaker 2>court case by clearly asking for pronouns from someone who's

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 2>obviously a man or a woman.

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 3>And anyway, we're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to a break when we come back. The Paris

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Games featured breakdancing. Reygun became famous as a result of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait, did you hear what LA is planning for

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty eight Games that's coming up in.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Olympic Games is meant to be the pinnacle

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<v Speaker 2>of human achievement as we watch athletes push their bodies

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 2>to the limits in search of glory. But over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>I've tried to make it a bit more interesting and

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<v Speaker 2>appeal to the masses. Back in nineteen hundred the Olympic Games,

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<v Speaker 2>they featured some novelty sports, including horse long jump and

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.959
<v Speaker 2>live pigeon shooting. Cand you I mentione them doing live

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 2>pigeon that would be really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know pigeons could shoot. I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>lacked deposable thumbs.

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Of course, at the Paris Games we had raygun become

0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:55.760
<v Speaker 2>famous when they had breakdancing at the Olympic Games.

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Who will ever forget that?

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I think we've got some images here of raygun pushing

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<v Speaker 2>body to the limit.

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 3>They're in search of.

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Gold, also lack deposable thumbs.

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Not to be outdone, the Los Angeles Games planned for

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight have decided they will have a novelty

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 2>sport as well, and so they are going to introduce

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<v Speaker 2>a Ninja Warrior course for athletes around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a look at what they're planning here.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some vision of how athletes will compete at

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 2>the LA Games. There'll be monkey bars, they'll jump over bars.

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not that much different to gymnastics, except it's more

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 2>for the common man who wants to feature on a

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>commercial TV reality program much like Ninja Warrior is. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if this is going to take up at

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympic Games take off.

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<v Speaker 5>This looks like one of those Maine shows that they

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 5>used to play where it was like this giant gymnasium

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 5>and they had to like run through these things sticking

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 5>out of the water, swing by the rope climbs.

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Warrior, it's a jungle gym, it's an obstacle course.

0:47:58.880 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like Ninja Warrior.

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<v Speaker 5>Que.

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<v Speaker 6>No, that's cultural appropriation though, isn't it. I mean, does

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.359
<v Speaker 6>you know did the Tokyo Olympics put on you know,

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:11.399
<v Speaker 6>drive by Shooting Warrior to pay tribute to steal Los

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 6>Angeles culture?

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<v Speaker 5>Before we leave you tonight, Australians, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 5>New streaming platform Max has gathered data last month that

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 5>shows Assie's spend forty two minutes on average a day

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 5>on streaming platform platforms just deciding what to watch. This

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 5>means eleven days of our year we're spending just scrolling

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 5>and for forty two minutes of a day, you could

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 5>have watched an episode of your show by then, but

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 5>you've wasted it scrolling. I can't relate to this whatsoever.

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 5>When I turn the TV on, I know exactly what

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 5>platform I'm going to and I know exactly what I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are these?

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<v Speaker 2>You write down your list of shows from me so

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<v Speaker 2>I can save myself for eleven days every year because

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<v Speaker 2>I waste so much time going.

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<v Speaker 5>I would love that required watching or just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>recommended watching by Lizabe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it from us sticking around. Coming up is the

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<v Speaker 2>Rita penaheeshow, have a great weekend.