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Speaker 1: Apogha production.

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Speaker 2: O'kme back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?

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Speaker 3: Podcast?

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Speaker 1: The question we continuously ask am I A Bad mum?

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Speaker 4: We like to really sit and ponder if we're actually

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Speaker 4: doing it right or just basically messing the whole shit up.

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Speaker 1: I feel like by the time you've realized that you've

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Speaker 1: messed stuff up, it's kind of like too late.

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Speaker 2: That's why I talk often.

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Speaker 1: About becoming a grandparent. When eventually we become grandparents, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna fix that stuff up. Look at you with your mum, right,

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Speaker 1: your mom will give you advice now on your children.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, shouldn't do that with you.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, what was this morning's She was commenting

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Speaker 4: on Ntella? Oh yeah, I was like, I looked at

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Speaker 4: her and I was like, really, Natella out of every Like,

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Speaker 4: my kids are pretty damn like you know, we're very

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Speaker 4: protein driven in the morning, especially for breakfast. Mum, you

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Speaker 4: offered to make them pancakes, So what do you expect

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Speaker 4: that they eat on it? And she went, oh, gosh,

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Speaker 4: anything but Natella.

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Speaker 1: But telling you, my dad stayed at our house and

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Speaker 1: the girls were a lot younger, and I remember him

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Speaker 1: saying he gave them natella on toast and I said, Dash, like,

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Speaker 1: that's not what we normally give him for breakfast, and

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Speaker 1: he said what and genuinely right, he went, what is healthy?

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Speaker 2: It's full of nuts?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Mom, this morning was a complete opposite

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Speaker 4: to that, Katie. And then I had that moment of

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Speaker 4: going but you gave us We had way worse than natella.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever think about your choices now when you

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Speaker 1: go for more healthy options or you don't have certain things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've read so much about vegetable oil and how that's

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Speaker 1: so terrible and it's in like everything so and I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of a bit like, well, unless you're a multi

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Speaker 1: millionaire with a chef or someone that can go through

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Speaker 1: all those ingredients and make sure you're eating the best stuff,

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Speaker 1: it's just not doable. It's not doable in terms of

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Speaker 1: cost for starters, and it's also not practical, like you

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Speaker 1: could then never eat out, you could like, it's just

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Speaker 1: too hard, it's too hard.

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Speaker 3: To do that.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at your choices now, do you

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Speaker 2: look back and.

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Speaker 1: Go, oh, I mean, look at the first half of

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Speaker 1: my life from when I was eating that, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I genuinely have a giggle because Mum's other thing that

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Speaker 4: we grew up on afternoon snack.

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Speaker 3: We had two minute noodles, right, two minute noodles.

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Speaker 4: So now we've put an option of whole meal two

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Speaker 4: minute noodles to make it a little bit healthier, and like,

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Speaker 4: my girls only get it as a way off treat.

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Speaker 4: I think we were having it, Luke and I were

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Speaker 4: having it like every other noon after school. Yeah, that

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Speaker 4: was why she was parenting us. Now fast forward to

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Speaker 4: having my two around. These are the worst things that

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Speaker 4: you could ever be giving them.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, don't worry about the damage that's

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Speaker 3: already been done. Here, I'm down, I'm damaged. Don't worry

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Speaker 3: about my kids.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I was like, here, I am going through

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Speaker 4: the markets to get organic vegetables and like, oh gosh,

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Speaker 4: don't beat the kids whole mail two minute noodles.

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Speaker 3: Why the MSG doesn't hurt anybody?

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Speaker 2: MSG coming out of our ears?

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Speaker 3: Am I a bad mom? Or looking forward to school holidays?

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Speaker 3: This is this is a fun one, Katie.

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Speaker 4: So I am genuinely looking forward to school holidays. And

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Speaker 4: this is the reason why I had somebody else in

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Speaker 4: our family say that they were willing to take the

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Speaker 4: kids camping.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, yes, have you booked it? Where are you going?

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Speaker 3: This is exciting.

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Speaker 4: You also did the wrong thing by saying it in

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Speaker 4: front of the girls, so they heard that. So you're

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Speaker 4: going to let them down if you don't take them. Now,

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Speaker 4: this person that I'm talking about is Sam Dad a

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Speaker 4: dad aka dad, and I genuinely and like now encouraging

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Speaker 4: it so much that it's actually so obvious because I

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Speaker 4: was like, yeah, no, where are you camping? Like this

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Speaker 4: would be so good? And he goes, well, you could come,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, nope, no, that was never.

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Speaker 3: On my posce.

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Speaker 2: You're that you're the fun guy.

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Speaker 3: You're the fun guy.

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Speaker 2: You do the fun stuff.

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Speaker 3: You love camping. Yeah, you bought swags just for the

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Speaker 3: three of you.

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Speaker 1: We'll say at home and iron everyone's school uniforms.

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Speaker 4: I do all the jobs, so like and not go camping.

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Speaker 2: How long are they thinking of going camping?

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Speaker 3: A week?

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Speaker 1: He was planning a week like seven day Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a long time for camping.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, best of luck. But the last time they went

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Speaker 3: camping was for what two nights?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, don't have all your hopes tied

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Speaker 1: up with seven days because my experience of camping, and

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Speaker 1: I haven't been for a long time because of my

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Speaker 1: very convenient analogy, but my experience of camping has always

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Speaker 1: been you plan for a certain amount of days and

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Speaker 1: I'm home after two.

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Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, So they went for two days.

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Speaker 4: On the last camping trip, he ended up booking a

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Speaker 4: tiny home, so it was like a property with a

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Speaker 4: want to camp.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so they got a tiny home.

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Speaker 4: They got the pocket of land, he said, which was

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Speaker 4: good because then you've got the pocket of land. You

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Speaker 4: don't have to think about where you're going to go

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Speaker 4: camping the rest mind you. This was like eight hundred

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Speaker 4: dollars for his tiny home for two nights.

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Speaker 2: What and I was only slept in a tent outside.

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Speaker 4: I was like, Maye, what the actual fuck is wrong

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Speaker 4: with you? They have swags like whatever the swags are,

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Speaker 4: and I think Sam bought himself double swag biggest mistake

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Speaker 4: because then he had someone in the swag both nights

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Speaker 4: and it was like one night, one girl, Elsie first night,

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Speaker 4: Gracie second night, and they were all sleeping outside the

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Speaker 4: tiny home, but in their swags.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so now.

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Speaker 4: They're planning seven nights Katie. But I'm feeling like I'm

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Speaker 4: going to just like jump the gun. I'm going to

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Speaker 4: get way too excited. But I figured, if I just

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Speaker 4: booked something, if I just go somewhere, not my.

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Speaker 2: Problem, like Fiji.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you yeah, if you cancel your own

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Speaker 4: camping trip, not my problem. You told me you were

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Speaker 4: going camping. Yeah, no, you organize this, yeah problem, they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So seven days, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm looking forward to school holidays.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even going to be with them for a

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Speaker 4: week of the school holidays.

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Speaker 3: I'll take one week, you take the other.

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Speaker 2: Is it the first week or the second week.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It would be better if it's the second week because

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Speaker 2: because you'll do Oh no, it be better if it's

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Speaker 2: the first week.

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Speaker 1: Because then you get your time and then you get

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Speaker 1: time with the kids and then they go back to school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's kind of like school holidays gives all

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Speaker 4: of us holidays, right. I don't know if you ever

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Speaker 4: think about this in terms of the breakdown, but we've

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Speaker 4: talked about it before. School holidays for an adult means

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Speaker 4: no lunchboxes, no school run drop off timing, no driving

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Speaker 4: in traffic just to get to that one because the

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Speaker 4: traffic even lightens up. I don't know if this is

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Speaker 4: all over the world, but Brisbane it's like it's like

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Speaker 4: no one goes to work, no one goes to anywhere

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Speaker 4: in the mornings that they're school holidays and so like

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Speaker 4: there's so many things that we don't have to do.

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Speaker 4: So technically you're on holidays whilst they're on holidays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I certainly did do a lot of getting

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Speaker 1: up taking them to vacation care. First of all, it

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Speaker 1: was a drama because they hated going, and then they

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Speaker 1: compared it to Albert so and So's mum is home

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Speaker 1: and him blah blah blah blah blah. So I would

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Speaker 1: always have to pushback and the arguing over why did

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Speaker 1: they have to go to vacation care and other people don't.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, there's still plenty of people have to

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Speaker 1: go to work during school holidays and have to do that.

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Speaker 1: But then there's also the cost of it, Rach because

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Speaker 1: after school care or holiday care, vacation care works out

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Speaker 1: so much more expensive, especially over the Christmas school holidays.

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Speaker 1: If you've p like if you ever weeks and the

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Speaker 1: kids need to go to vacation care for like five

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 2: There's so much money. When is school holidays?

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Speaker 1: By the way, when have we got about three weeks?

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Speaker 4: Three weeks I think technically classified as winter holidays?

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Speaker 3: I think is it?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And the girls say to me, as they do

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Speaker 2: every school holiday, are we going anywhere this school holidays? Well?

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Speaker 1: I did have a look at flights to Bali and

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Speaker 1: they were going to be eight thousand dollars and unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, that's seven.

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Speaker 2: Thousand dollars on our sick cat. So what do you want?

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Speaker 2: The ants will be no holiday or a cat.

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Speaker 3: Maybe pick up a few extra shifts.