1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:24,601 Speaker 1: Apogie Production. Welcome back to another episode about I A 2 00:00:24,641 --> 00:00:27,321 Speaker 1: Bad Mum podcast. 3 00:00:27,601 --> 00:00:30,161 Speaker 2: It's the gift that never stops giving, That's what we say. 4 00:00:30,201 --> 00:00:32,321 Speaker 2: We're all in the same sort of boat. We all 5 00:00:32,441 --> 00:00:36,561 Speaker 2: are on the journey together. Yeah, it's wonderful, lovely time 6 00:00:36,641 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: of our lives. I pause then, because some days they're not. 7 00:00:41,601 --> 00:00:45,441 Speaker 1: It's really hard. Some days it's haf It's a hard job. 8 00:00:45,601 --> 00:00:48,961 Speaker 3: Yes, but we can do it. We will conquer, can 9 00:00:49,001 --> 00:00:49,521 Speaker 3: we can? 10 00:00:49,521 --> 00:01:03,361 Speaker 4: We am I bad mom for serving up disgusting food. 11 00:01:05,121 --> 00:01:06,401 Speaker 4: I don't think it's disgusting. 12 00:01:06,681 --> 00:01:09,681 Speaker 2: I was like, is this stuff that is inedible for you? 13 00:01:10,041 --> 00:01:12,721 Speaker 2: Or as in, because your girls are both vegoe, aren't they? 14 00:01:12,881 --> 00:01:13,161 Speaker 1: Yeah? 15 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,601 Speaker 4: But the thing is is we spoke last week on 16 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,161 Speaker 4: the podcast about I went to a health retreat. Oh 17 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,321 Speaker 4: yeah for a weekend, and literally I came out of 18 00:01:20,321 --> 00:01:22,201 Speaker 4: that health retreat and I was like, right, we are 19 00:01:22,241 --> 00:01:25,241 Speaker 4: buying organic, which, by the way, is not feasible. It's 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,881 Speaker 4: so bloody expensive. Went to the markets. I was like, 21 00:01:28,081 --> 00:01:30,521 Speaker 4: I thought markets were supposed to be cheap, Like it 22 00:01:30,761 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: wasn't that the whole idea back in the day that 23 00:01:32,681 --> 00:01:34,681 Speaker 4: a market was where you get your fruit and veget 24 00:01:34,721 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: for slightly cheaper. 25 00:01:36,241 --> 00:01:37,401 Speaker 1: It's like so much more. 26 00:01:37,481 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Also it depends what time you go, where you go. 27 00:01:41,441 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: We went to an organic market just to check it 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,321 Speaker 4: out and honestly rach the meat. 29 00:01:48,561 --> 00:01:49,961 Speaker 1: And oh yeah, yeah, the meat. 30 00:01:49,961 --> 00:01:51,441 Speaker 3: It's really expensive. 31 00:01:51,561 --> 00:01:55,481 Speaker 4: It's so expensive, but also really ropey looking like it 32 00:01:55,761 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: just doesn't look very happetizing. And I know that's probably 33 00:01:58,841 --> 00:02:00,481 Speaker 4: because it hasn't got all the chemicals and the shit 34 00:02:00,561 --> 00:02:01,361 Speaker 4: making it look pretty. 35 00:02:01,401 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: But oh yeah, right, yeah, I was sure what market 36 00:02:03,841 --> 00:02:07,641 Speaker 2: you're at, but the one there's a couple, but I've 37 00:02:07,681 --> 00:02:10,361 Speaker 2: seen the meat, and the meat section seems to be 38 00:02:10,521 --> 00:02:11,241 Speaker 2: quite pricey. 39 00:02:11,361 --> 00:02:15,241 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's expensive, and moving vegetables expensive as well, but 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,881 Speaker 4: this is probably just a phase that I'm going through, 41 00:02:17,921 --> 00:02:18,441 Speaker 4: just off the back. 42 00:02:19,721 --> 00:02:21,761 Speaker 2: We want to continue that as long as we can, 43 00:02:21,841 --> 00:02:24,641 Speaker 2: because this health retreat has really hit for you, which. 44 00:02:24,441 --> 00:02:26,921 Speaker 4: Is good, and I will be so upset if that 45 00:02:27,041 --> 00:02:28,881 Speaker 4: starts rotting in the bottom of the fridge. 46 00:02:28,921 --> 00:02:30,321 Speaker 1: Those fruits and vegetables that. 47 00:02:30,481 --> 00:02:33,681 Speaker 3: Just cost you your leg literally. Yeah. 48 00:02:33,721 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: And the other thing I felt like as I went 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,681 Speaker 4: around this market and realized how much we were spending, 50 00:02:38,841 --> 00:02:39,561 Speaker 4: was should we. 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,761 Speaker 1: Have to eat every day? We have to eat every 52 00:02:41,841 --> 00:02:44,681 Speaker 1: day for the rest of our lives. This is not sustainable. 53 00:02:46,121 --> 00:02:49,641 Speaker 2: You're to find your way of making it work. It 54 00:02:49,761 --> 00:02:51,121 Speaker 2: just takes a little bit more planning. 55 00:02:51,201 --> 00:02:51,561 Speaker 3: I think. 56 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 57 00:02:52,441 --> 00:02:55,441 Speaker 4: Well, the day we got back from this health retreat, 58 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 4: it was a Sunday and it was lunchtime that we 59 00:03:00,121 --> 00:03:02,641 Speaker 4: were getting home, and so the girls. 60 00:03:02,321 --> 00:03:04,641 Speaker 1: Were like, can we have hungry decks. I was like, 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,881 Speaker 1: absolutely not. There is no way. I'm coming off the 62 00:03:08,881 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: back of three days at a health retreat triple filtered 63 00:03:12,641 --> 00:03:14,121 Speaker 1: water and. 64 00:03:16,321 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: I'm running with that. 65 00:03:18,321 --> 00:03:22,281 Speaker 4: And so I did this. I thought that they were beautiful. 66 00:03:22,361 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: I did these pokey bowls. I bought kingfish, tushimi, all 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: the like veggies. So we had animamie, We had cabbage, 68 00:03:30,881 --> 00:03:36,001 Speaker 4: graded carrot, zucchini, sour kraut, like everything was in there. 69 00:03:36,001 --> 00:03:38,921 Speaker 4: Like it was just lovely and then like a beautiful dressing. 70 00:03:40,081 --> 00:03:42,401 Speaker 1: Sept it. After the kids they just looked at it. 71 00:03:42,441 --> 00:03:45,601 Speaker 1: They were like, this is horrible. I said, no, it's not. 72 00:03:45,641 --> 00:03:48,241 Speaker 4: It's delicious, Like look at look at what you're getting, 73 00:03:48,281 --> 00:03:51,681 Speaker 4: like the good stuff that you're putting in your body. 74 00:03:52,121 --> 00:03:55,641 Speaker 1: Super excited about it. So they ate it like begrudgingly. 75 00:03:56,321 --> 00:03:57,841 Speaker 4: And then they said to me the other day, Mum, 76 00:03:58,281 --> 00:04:01,481 Speaker 4: we're not coping very well with you being back from 77 00:04:01,481 --> 00:04:04,201 Speaker 4: the health retreat because the food we are eating now 78 00:04:04,321 --> 00:04:05,201 Speaker 4: is disgusting. 79 00:04:07,041 --> 00:04:07,921 Speaker 1: I said, no, it's not. 80 00:04:08,721 --> 00:04:12,161 Speaker 4: No, it's not disgusting. It's actually really delicious and nutritious. 81 00:04:12,201 --> 00:04:14,881 Speaker 4: It's not disgusting. And they're like, when is this going 82 00:04:14,961 --> 00:04:16,601 Speaker 4: to end? Like when are you going to go back 83 00:04:16,641 --> 00:04:19,281 Speaker 4: to normal? Because can't we just have two minute noodles 84 00:04:19,281 --> 00:04:23,641 Speaker 4: for lunch? I said, no, no, my friend, today we're 85 00:04:23,641 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: having bone broth. 86 00:04:24,561 --> 00:04:27,881 Speaker 2: They're like, what is wrong with her? Why is she 87 00:04:27,921 --> 00:04:28,481 Speaker 2: sending us? 88 00:04:28,521 --> 00:04:31,561 Speaker 3: What else you be making? In my head, I'm sort 89 00:04:31,561 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: of imagining like curries. 90 00:04:33,561 --> 00:04:36,961 Speaker 2: Did they do like vegetable curries, like the dull kind 91 00:04:37,041 --> 00:04:37,601 Speaker 2: of stuff? 92 00:04:37,721 --> 00:04:38,041 Speaker 3: Yeah? 93 00:04:38,121 --> 00:04:41,441 Speaker 1: At the retreat Lausa? Is it called a laxa? 94 00:04:41,641 --> 00:04:41,881 Speaker 2: Yeah? 95 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,281 Speaker 1: That was delicious. They did a bone broth. 96 00:04:45,041 --> 00:04:49,041 Speaker 2: Bone broth is quite cheap to make yourself, just like 97 00:04:49,081 --> 00:04:50,841 Speaker 2: if you don't want to buy jars of it for 98 00:04:50,961 --> 00:04:53,681 Speaker 2: thirty five dollars or something, but you can make it 99 00:04:53,721 --> 00:04:55,001 Speaker 2: for quite less. 100 00:04:55,201 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: Jade put it on in the slow cooker overnight. It 101 00:04:58,601 --> 00:05:01,961 Speaker 4: was on for twelve hours, so the ingredients I think 102 00:05:02,001 --> 00:05:05,001 Speaker 4: were like fifteen dollars maybe if that all the ingredient 103 00:05:05,361 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 4: from the organic market, so it's all the like bones 104 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:13,081 Speaker 4: in the bones that literally need stuff bones, carrot onion, 105 00:05:13,641 --> 00:05:16,281 Speaker 4: yea celery if you choose, so you can basically put 106 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: any vegetable that is going good way to use your 107 00:05:18,961 --> 00:05:21,721 Speaker 4: organic stuff, anything that's about to go in the fridge 108 00:05:21,761 --> 00:05:24,001 Speaker 4: that is vegetable wise, and just chuck it all in 109 00:05:24,001 --> 00:05:25,281 Speaker 4: with your bones and then. 110 00:05:25,121 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: Fill it up with water. Yeah, splash of apple sided vinegar. 111 00:05:28,281 --> 00:05:31,681 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was all done. There was so much goodness 112 00:05:31,801 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: in it. It was disgusting. 113 00:05:36,601 --> 00:05:38,081 Speaker 3: It is different to the one that you. 114 00:05:38,041 --> 00:05:40,481 Speaker 1: Buy, do you Yeah, I'm still there must be. 115 00:05:41,641 --> 00:05:42,721 Speaker 3: I didn't nail mine. 116 00:05:42,801 --> 00:05:45,921 Speaker 2: Did yours come out like it was jelatine kind of 117 00:05:46,041 --> 00:05:46,641 Speaker 2: like thicker? 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, like had bits in it, bits in it, like 119 00:05:52,561 --> 00:05:54,921 Speaker 4: bits of it, like floaty bits at it. 120 00:05:55,121 --> 00:05:57,121 Speaker 3: No, he's meant to strain it afterwards. 121 00:05:57,161 --> 00:05:58,041 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did strain it. 122 00:05:58,121 --> 00:06:01,921 Speaker 4: But anyway, bone broth is not that nice. But what 123 00:06:02,121 --> 00:06:04,161 Speaker 4: you can do, but I realized is you can put 124 00:06:04,201 --> 00:06:06,121 Speaker 4: it in sauces. So if you're doing like a spaghetti 125 00:06:06,121 --> 00:06:08,161 Speaker 4: bolonaise for your kids and you put bone broth in, 126 00:06:08,241 --> 00:06:10,681 Speaker 4: like they're not going to taste that that's in there, 127 00:06:10,681 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: but it's so much goodness. Like I just took away 128 00:06:13,841 --> 00:06:17,281 Speaker 4: the fact that we can make nice food and tasty 129 00:06:17,281 --> 00:06:18,961 Speaker 4: food and make it a bit healthier for our kids. 130 00:06:19,001 --> 00:06:21,121 Speaker 4: I'm not saying go and buy organic because it's just 131 00:06:21,241 --> 00:06:25,361 Speaker 4: not doable, like it's so expensive, or pick and choose 132 00:06:25,801 --> 00:06:28,721 Speaker 4: the stuff that you do. Like spinach is a great 133 00:06:28,761 --> 00:06:33,041 Speaker 4: one in that spinach just soaks up all the pesticides 134 00:06:33,041 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: and everything berries as well, things like berries. But I'm 135 00:06:36,841 --> 00:06:39,881 Speaker 4: not buying a bloody organic avocado. There's no way, Like 136 00:06:39,961 --> 00:06:41,801 Speaker 4: at the skin on it so thick. 137 00:06:42,201 --> 00:06:44,241 Speaker 2: The other thing you can think about with your going 138 00:06:44,281 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: back to your bone broth is like if you're making 139 00:06:46,481 --> 00:06:49,441 Speaker 2: meals like tacos or those, you know, anything that you. 140 00:06:49,401 --> 00:06:50,881 Speaker 3: Need to add a cup of liquid. 141 00:06:51,081 --> 00:06:53,001 Speaker 2: Yeah, and instead of putting that in, put your bone 142 00:06:53,041 --> 00:06:55,921 Speaker 2: broth in and it just adds another hit of goodness 143 00:06:56,201 --> 00:06:56,881 Speaker 2: for your tummy. 144 00:06:57,121 --> 00:06:57,721 Speaker 1: Yeah. 145 00:06:57,841 --> 00:07:00,481 Speaker 4: But do you know what's funny about it is that 146 00:07:00,561 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: I feel like we've got all of this knowledge and 147 00:07:02,921 --> 00:07:05,761 Speaker 4: education around stuff like this, Like I know, back in 148 00:07:05,801 --> 00:07:08,401 Speaker 4: the day, like you've had so many battles with Elsie 149 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,161 Speaker 4: eating fruit and vegetables. 150 00:07:09,601 --> 00:07:10,681 Speaker 1: Like just for so long she. 151 00:07:10,721 --> 00:07:13,081 Speaker 4: Was like I don't eat fruit, I don't need vegetables 152 00:07:13,121 --> 00:07:15,001 Speaker 4: and just wouldn't need to have to hide it and stuff. 153 00:07:15,121 --> 00:07:16,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, but really, if you. 154 00:07:16,961 --> 00:07:19,681 Speaker 4: Think about what we're now being told that we need 155 00:07:19,721 --> 00:07:22,481 Speaker 4: to do, have bone broth every day, late by organic, 156 00:07:22,641 --> 00:07:24,521 Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff, and then you look at 157 00:07:24,521 --> 00:07:28,281 Speaker 4: the shit we were eating when we grew up. My 158 00:07:28,441 --> 00:07:33,081 Speaker 4: mom used to buy microwave fries hot chips in a 159 00:07:33,121 --> 00:07:35,401 Speaker 4: box that you can put in the microwave. I think 160 00:07:35,401 --> 00:07:37,241 Speaker 4: she was going through a bit of a nervous breakdown 161 00:07:37,361 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: when she spilled out with my dad because everything changed. 162 00:07:40,641 --> 00:07:42,801 Speaker 4: We had home cooked meals and the next time we're 163 00:07:42,801 --> 00:07:46,721 Speaker 4: having like micro fries some of that crap that we ate. 164 00:07:46,801 --> 00:07:49,401 Speaker 4: We certainly weren't eating bone broth as kids. 165 00:07:49,561 --> 00:07:54,001 Speaker 2: Two minute noodles were always fine, right, and now my girls, 166 00:07:54,361 --> 00:07:56,481 Speaker 2: I think you can get whole grain. Not that it's 167 00:07:56,601 --> 00:07:59,561 Speaker 2: much difference because it's still processed food, but like, I've 168 00:07:59,561 --> 00:08:01,001 Speaker 2: got the whole grain two minute. 169 00:08:00,721 --> 00:08:02,641 Speaker 3: Noodles because my children like them. 170 00:08:02,801 --> 00:08:06,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, no judgment, but my mom, my own mother 171 00:08:06,841 --> 00:08:10,521 Speaker 2: that fed them to me and allowed me to eat them, 172 00:08:11,001 --> 00:08:14,201 Speaker 2: holds so much judgment and slings hit on me if 173 00:08:14,241 --> 00:08:16,121 Speaker 2: I let my children eat two minute noodles. 174 00:08:16,481 --> 00:08:17,681 Speaker 3: She's like, why let me? 175 00:08:17,721 --> 00:08:19,801 Speaker 2: And I looked at her, It's like, you let us 176 00:08:19,881 --> 00:08:22,881 Speaker 2: eat them, So what's the different At the end of 177 00:08:22,921 --> 00:08:25,801 Speaker 2: the day, they don't eat them every day, It's okay, 178 00:08:26,281 --> 00:08:29,881 Speaker 2: But Elsie's still pain in the ass right with fruit 179 00:08:29,921 --> 00:08:31,601 Speaker 2: and vegs. But do you know what she will do. 180 00:08:32,081 --> 00:08:34,841 Speaker 2: She'll have her glass a big cup of hot bone 181 00:08:34,841 --> 00:08:39,441 Speaker 2: broth every morning. So odd can't make her eat fruit 182 00:08:39,481 --> 00:08:40,681 Speaker 2: but will eat bone broth. 183 00:08:41,081 --> 00:08:43,041 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta take what you can get. 184 00:08:43,561 --> 00:08:48,241 Speaker 4: He's weird, weird, but just remind yourself when your kids 185 00:08:48,281 --> 00:08:51,041 Speaker 4: aren't eating anything that's remotely healthy or good. 186 00:08:51,161 --> 00:08:53,281 Speaker 1: Yeah, think about the shit you used to eat beans 187 00:08:53,321 --> 00:08:54,321 Speaker 1: on toast for dinner. 188 00:08:55,201 --> 00:09:00,041 Speaker 3: My kids won't eat baked beans, spoil little shits. Oh 189 00:09:00,121 --> 00:09:00,841 Speaker 3: you still love them? 190 00:09:01,801 --> 00:09:02,521 Speaker 1: How good were they? 191 00:09:02,641 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: I was like, I loved them. I've tried to sell them. 192 00:09:05,361 --> 00:09:06,161 Speaker 2: I even made them. 193 00:09:06,561 --> 00:09:10,121 Speaker 3: Oh shit, what is it like the spaghetti in a can? Oh? Yeah, 194 00:09:10,481 --> 00:09:11,161 Speaker 3: on a jaffle? 195 00:09:11,321 --> 00:09:13,561 Speaker 2: So like on a like The original that was like 196 00:09:13,721 --> 00:09:18,201 Speaker 2: og kind of kids growing up was the toasted sandwich 197 00:09:18,241 --> 00:09:20,201 Speaker 2: with the spaghetti on the inside of it. 198 00:09:20,321 --> 00:09:25,041 Speaker 3: Yeah, made for them. This is disgusting. What is this? 199 00:09:25,401 --> 00:09:29,161 Speaker 3: And I was like, I used to love that. Maybe 200 00:09:29,201 --> 00:09:30,441 Speaker 3: it's because we didn't have a choice. 201 00:09:30,521 --> 00:09:32,841 Speaker 1: I used to get Heine's breakfast in a can. 202 00:09:33,081 --> 00:09:36,721 Speaker 4: I had everything in there, baked beans, mini sausages, egg, 203 00:09:37,481 --> 00:09:39,561 Speaker 4: just put it in the microwave. 204 00:09:40,161 --> 00:09:41,161 Speaker 1: Yeah I did eat it. 205 00:09:41,281 --> 00:09:44,081 Speaker 4: No, No, I remember when I left school, when I 206 00:09:44,121 --> 00:09:44,881 Speaker 4: went to college. 207 00:09:45,401 --> 00:09:48,321 Speaker 1: College in the UK is a bit like Tafe, I guess. 208 00:09:48,761 --> 00:09:50,041 Speaker 1: I literally would. 209 00:09:49,881 --> 00:09:52,081 Speaker 4: Go to that canteen every day and I'd have a 210 00:09:52,121 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: plate of hot chip cheese and babeans. 211 00:09:58,081 --> 00:10:00,201 Speaker 1: Like, what's the point of me buying organic shit? 212 00:10:00,281 --> 00:10:00,441 Speaker 2: Now? 213 00:10:00,721 --> 00:10:01,761 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that. 214 00:10:01,921 --> 00:10:06,161 Speaker 2: So now when you're going through your organic shop, think 215 00:10:06,201 --> 00:10:08,041 Speaker 2: about your brecy in a Kansi. 216 00:10:09,441 --> 00:10:10,641 Speaker 3: That's making me gup.