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Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, always

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Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Hay jis, I'm out and and

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Speaker 1: this is Two Roat Chicks, the show that shares life

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Speaker 1: lessons and tips to make you rich in life. And

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Speaker 1: welcome to part two of How to Live Deliciously with

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Speaker 1: Florence Given. We had so much fun chatting to her

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Speaker 1: that we've done this in two parts, So if you

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Speaker 1: haven't listened to part one, go back and give last

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Speaker 1: week's episode a listen. And yeah, let's get into the episode.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. There's still so.

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Speaker 1: Much development in someone in their soul and their mind

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Speaker 1: and their belief and their decisions. Between twenty and.

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Speaker 3: Like the rest of your life, it's like you go

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Speaker 3: through a.

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Speaker 1: Second pubity, you know. And that's the thing I think

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Speaker 1: a well, like Pully, like twenty year old Alex, she's baby.

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Speaker 1: I just want to put her on my lap and

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Speaker 1: like give her a cuddle and be like, don't worry,

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Speaker 1: you don't know anything, and that's okay. And I think

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Speaker 1: the thing that makes me so maybe stressed isn't the

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Speaker 1: right word, but the thing I think about as well

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Speaker 1: now is obviously, you know, when we were younger, we

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Speaker 1: had a lot of things in media that makes it

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Speaker 1: very confusing, but even still now and I think it's

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Speaker 1: quite disguised, because I would love your opinion on the

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Speaker 1: whole that girl trend and clean girl trend and vanilla

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Speaker 1: girl and tomato girl and fucking potato girl and tomato girl.

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Speaker 1: There's a tomato girl. I had a full thirty minute

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Speaker 1: rant about it on the net. She's in sucking Europe

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Speaker 1: and she's wearing linen and she has a headscarfhone, And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, she's just in Europe. And then I saw

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Speaker 1: recently now this Arabella girl and it's just leopard print,

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Speaker 1: like leopard jackets and red.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, what do you what do you think?

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I'm not that TikTok. I'm assuming most

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Speaker 4: of this is on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, app is so good.

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Speaker 4: I have to stay away from it because right it's

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Speaker 4: so it's like the best television you could ask for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it will feed you everything you interact with everything.

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Speaker 4: I would I would use to use it, like if

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Speaker 4: I was looking for a sign from the universe, it

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Speaker 4: would open TikTok and there would be like some woeman

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Speaker 4: like this is for you. It's it's such a good

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Speaker 4: it's it's such a good app that I have to

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Speaker 4: stay away from it. So I don't know much about

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Speaker 4: what the names or the trends are. And I imagine

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Speaker 4: if I was absorbing all of that constantly, I would

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Speaker 4: be influenced by it, and it's I was actually thinking

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Speaker 4: to have very strict boundaries with it. Like I can't

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Speaker 4: of the day. I only have it on my phone

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Speaker 4: when I'm posting or in the evening if I want

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Speaker 4: to check my mess It's a lot harder at the

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Speaker 4: moment because I'm promoting the book, so I have lots

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Speaker 4: of drafts and safe But what do I.

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Speaker 2: Think about that stuff? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think it's because I'm not absorbed in it and

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Speaker 4: it's not affecting me. I can almost look at it

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Speaker 4: in this like this very lighthearted way, right because I've

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Speaker 4: not been so heavily affected by it, And the way

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Speaker 4: I'm saying it is like we all used to belong

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Speaker 4: we perhaps grab those like those physical things, so like

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Speaker 4: we project those images to signal what cult we belong to, right, like,

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Speaker 4: And this is perhaps just the extreme modern manifestation of

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Speaker 4: thus needing to signal to people who we are and

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Speaker 2: So you can wear all the.

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Speaker 4: Things, you can do all of the things, but that

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Speaker 4: your quote unquote crime, but you can find your people

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Speaker 4: by just sharing aesthetics and interests. And something I'm a

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Speaker 4: long fulfilling friendships because you have shared values instead of

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think we all want to belong and it's so human,

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Speaker 1: Something, I think it is rooted in wanting to belong.

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Speaker 1: again it's still rooted in that I don't want to

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing wrong with belonging to something, and that's always

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Speaker 1: something that we've said. But if you feel like you

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Speaker 4: It is lonely to be authentic, though you have in

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Speaker 2: I've belonged to groups of people before.

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Speaker 4: Based on the interests, based on the the.

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Speaker 2: Shared music in trant or whatever anything shared interests.

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Speaker 4: And it doesn't actually it's almost like a surface level

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Speaker 2: This really, really really beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Seas of my life where I'm intentionally valuing authenticity and

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Speaker 2: Worth it in the long run, because I get depressed

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Speaker 4: was an amazing book I read a couple of years

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Speaker 4: It was called The Way of Integrity by Martha Beck,

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Speaker 4: and she talks about the connection between authenticity and physical illness,

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Speaker 4: and it would just basically described everything that I was

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Speaker 4: Body fucking slammed like slipped a disc in my spine

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Speaker 2: When I could just be myself, I could just be myself.

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Speaker 4: And trust that that is beautiful and that that is

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Speaker 3: I was having a conversation with a friend earlier this week,

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Speaker 3: and I was saying to him that sometimes life pulls

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Speaker 3: you don't stop yourself from whatever it is that is

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Speaker 3: stopping you from living authentically. And it sounds like that's

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Speaker 3: the experience that you had, and I think that's incredibly relatable.

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Speaker 1: But I want to.

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Speaker 3: Switch gears slightly because you share a quote in the

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Speaker 3: book that I loved, which is joy can only exist

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Speaker 3: when there is a gap in the stream of your thoughts,

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Speaker 3: and I want to know how can we create these

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Speaker 2: Yes, that quote is by Akhatole. Have you read The

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Speaker 3: But I saw it in your book and I was like,

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Speaker 4: And I hadn't left room in my life for a

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Speaker 2: But you know what that quote, because people read that book.

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Speaker 4: And have their lives completely flipped upside fucking down. And

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Speaker 4: it's funny that that quote in particular really gave the

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Speaker 4: told you at the beginning, I've always felt so much joy,

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Speaker 4: And it almost felt illegal because it's so simple.

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Speaker 2: It was like, surely not, surely, I cannot.

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Speaker 4: because we're taught to go out and grab things and

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Speaker 4: And that quote joy can only exist when there is

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Speaker 2: Of your thoughts. It made sense to me.

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Speaker 4: Why all of these small, beautiful moments made me feel

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Speaker 2: Because I wasn't thinking, period.

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Speaker 2: That's so goodness, like tearing up. That's really beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I just love you guys.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it's so powerful.

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Speaker 1: I honestly we recommend a lot of books on our pod.

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Speaker 1: If that's you know, if you're not a reader, audiobooks

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Speaker 4: This is my first enterview I've done for the book.

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Speaker 1: I put that on my Instagram. So, oh have you

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Speaker 1: Actually, we just I've got a tattoo on my forehead.

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Speaker 4: The mental deadlines you place upon yourself to achieve a

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Speaker 2: All of it's fake. It's not real, it's made up.

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Speaker 4: We make things up because it's fun. We make things

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Speaker 4: when you do that for me, I'll speak for myself.

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Speaker 4: For me, it's given me an unbelievable sense of power

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Speaker 4: I am is fucking brilliant, and anything I put on

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Speaker 2: It's fake. I can tell it to shut the hell

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Speaker 4: And that voice it's not real, it's it's a voice

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Speaker 4: inside of me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the voice. It's you know.

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Speaker 4: It's going back to that really basic but life changing mindfulness.

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Speaker 4: Part of the voice inside you is it's just a

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Speaker 4: piece of clutter. It's literally, it's not you. It's literally

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Speaker 4: it's a thing outside of you. Like like you would

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Speaker 2: We can do the same with the voice in our head,

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Speaker 2: like oh that's a voice in me.

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Speaker 4: It's not me, it's in me, and it just creating

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Speaker 4: everyone has a complete different voice in their heads and

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Speaker 4: they view they can look at the same fucking think

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Speaker 4: of art, and derive a completely different meaning from it, and.

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Speaker 2: Neither of you are wrong. It's just their interpretation of

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Speaker 2: the you know, it's like everything in life is fake

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Speaker 2: and it's a bit was it.

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Speaker 4: Like it's like nihilism and like just it sounds quite depressing,

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Speaker 4: like oh, everything's fake, nothing's real, but it's It's given

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Speaker 4: me a lot of optimism and a lot of gratitude

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Speaker 4: and much deeper ability to be what myself when I

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Speaker 4: realized that you can create your own version of life,

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Speaker 4: because why not.

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Speaker 2: It's all fake. The rules are fake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there are up rules. You can have what

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Speaker 1: I what the fuck you want for dinner? And my

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Speaker 1: favorite one is that you can pick whatever movie you

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Speaker 2: That's my favorite one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You've been an absolute pleasure and

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Speaker 1: easily one of our dream guests that we've always had.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations on your incredible book and we can't wait

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Speaker 1: for the four fifth, seven hundreds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I'm looking force but number four as well, whatever

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Speaker 4: the hell that's going to be, it'll be magnificent.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much, and have a fabulous rest

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Speaker 1: of your day.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much our pleasure.

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Speaker 1: And that is a wrap with our chat with Floss.

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Speaker 2: Are you bestie? I think?

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Speaker 3: Could you chicks tell that we were excited?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? That was I feel so fulfilled. I think this

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Speaker 1: has easily been one of like the dream days in

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Speaker 1: my career. The whole day Sound and I were really

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Speaker 1: nervous for no other reason. Then We're just huge fangirls,

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Speaker 1: so this episode has really stayed with me and I

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Speaker 1: hope everyone everyone reads this book. It will easily change

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Speaker 1: your life.

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Speaker 3: Put a link in the description so you can get

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Speaker 1: The ear holes. Definitely don't forget Spotify Premium audiobooks.

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Speaker 2: Chickies O, we love that.

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Speaker 1: But thank you so much having us in your ear holes.

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Speaker 5: We absolutely love love, blah, love to be love, and yeah,

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Speaker 5: I have a fucking fab day.

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Speaker 3: Chickis thanks to m ik Made for making today's episode happen.

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Speaker 2: We love you you.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye. Kisses from your money