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Speaker 1: Chris Pecton, the Health Minister is here this morning and

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Speaker 1: happy to hear from you as well. We've just been

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Speaker 1: talking Rex Airlines, Minister. What does it mean with Peter

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Speaker 1: Rishbirth just on regarding rural doctors and the problems faced

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Speaker 1: by health services trying to get around the state. It's

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Speaker 1: a real issue, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It is and certainly support what doctor Peter Rishbeth was saying.

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Speaker 2: We rely on those regional flights to get doctors and

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Speaker 2: specialists to a number of our regional hospitals on a

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Speaker 2: daily basis. We've already seen some issues since REX pulled

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Speaker 2: out of a few locations already Kingscote and Whale in particular,

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Speaker 2: and so now those remaining locations where REX does fly,

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Speaker 2: places like Mount Gambia, Port Lincoln and also Sojuna kober

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Speaker 2: Pe very reliant in terms of making sure we can

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Speaker 2: So I'm very relieved to hear this morning that REX

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Speaker 2: is going to continue its regional operations now under the administration.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it does sound like the big problems were

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Speaker 2: so hopefully if they end, if we can refocus on

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Speaker 2: the regional cor operations, then they can trade themselves out

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Speaker 2: of this difficulty, because not just here in South Australia,

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Speaker 2: but right around the country these are pretty pivotal services.

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Speaker 1: And hundreds of jobs as well. Let's talk about local

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Speaker 1: health issues and the place to start today has to

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Speaker 1: be elective surgery. Ninety cancelations on Monday twenty two thousand,

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Speaker 1: waiting four five hundred people over due. What are we

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Speaker 1: going to fix this? Well?

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Speaker 2: Can I say, firstly, in terms of the numbers in

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Speaker 2: the paper this morning that you're quoting, they not necessarily

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Speaker 2: resultant from the Code Yallow. In fact, the details that

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Speaker 2: I've got are, But because of the demand and the

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Speaker 2: system over the past week, there were fifty cancelations all up,

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Speaker 2: so that's a lot less than what we were seeing

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Speaker 2: two months ago. We've lifted about ninety five percent of

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Speaker 2: those restrictions in place across the city, across regional areas,

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Speaker 2: so there's a much smaller number of cancelations happening. I

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Speaker 2: think the advertisers looking at a dashboard which includes you know,

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Speaker 2: numbers where people cancel those operations themselves or where there's

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Speaker 2: a clinician who's not available all sorts of sor thing.

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Speaker 1: Why is there a code yellow that going to downgrade

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Speaker 1: at the code beige or something.

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Speaker 2: Look, you know, we are continually having it under review.

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Speaker 2: The reason that we have it in place is because

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Speaker 2: we are so under the pump and all of our

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Speaker 2: beds are full. We've seen a really dramatic increase in

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Speaker 2: the number of patients that we're having to treat in hospital.

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Speaker 2: People are coming to hospital a lot sicker than what

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Speaker 2: they were. They're needing to be admitted to hospital, and

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Speaker 2: while we are building additional beds, we don't have those

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Speaker 2: that we prioritize the most urgent cases obviously emergency cases,

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Speaker 2: but also the most urgent elective surgery cases. And so

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Speaker 2: it's really about using every possible leave upon possible to

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Speaker 2: make sure that patients who need that care in a

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Speaker 2: very time critical way can get that care.

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Speaker 1: So the figure forty five hundred overdue that's incorrect. Is

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Speaker 1: that what you're telling me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that's incorrect, And we certainly do

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Speaker 2: have patients who are overdue in terms of their elective surgery.

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Speaker 2: When we came to office, we had reduced that list

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Speaker 2: substantially from what we had inherited. Unfortunately, is now going

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Speaker 2: list further, because it's obviously really important that people can

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Speaker 2: been waiting on this for a long period of time.

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Speaker 2: Those beds are critical, though, because what happens in the

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Speaker 2: their elective surgery. But if we're seeing a big influx

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Speaker 2: of emergency people that need those beds, there's only so

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Speaker 2: have to be deferred. The other big issue that we're facing,

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Speaker 2: to be frank is a real crisis in age care,

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Speaker 2: so they get stuck in hospital that is obviously much

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Speaker 2: more costly to the state government, but it also deprives

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Speaker 2: So we've got basically the size of Maudbrey Hospital in

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Speaker 2: we're trying to get some action from the federal government on.

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Speaker 1: So what's the problem there? They've walked away from this,

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Speaker 2: Well, we're not seeing the action that we need to.

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Speaker 2: We are pleas that we've seen some funding announced in

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Speaker 2: very clear on a couple of things. One is that

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Speaker 2: ratings and all these systems that are there for a

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Speaker 2: good reason to try to lift the quality of age care,

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Speaker 2: but as now making them be a lot pickier in

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Speaker 2: very hard for us to get somebody who has difficult

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Speaker 1: In the federal health minister those is just down the

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Speaker 2: I don't worry. I do constantly, and in fact, got

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Speaker 2: and we're raising these issues, as is every other state

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Speaker 1: But he knows the issues here particularly absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And you know, they've got some big reforms coming in

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Speaker 2: age care with there's a bill supposedly coming soon. There's

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Speaker 2: a task force report we're waiting on. Recommendations from these

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Speaker 2: are also critical issues in the health reform negotiations that

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Speaker 2: In fact, you know, we are actually pretty disappointed that

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Speaker 2: but the public hospitals basically sort of soak up the

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Speaker 2: and we soak up the problems where people can't get

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Speaker 2: to be a partnership and we need to see more action.

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Speaker 1: On those Is there politics in that, because if the

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Speaker 1: Borrison government walked away from funding aged care, you'd be

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Speaker 2: I think that we have been pretty strong. We've got

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Speaker 2: letter to the federal government raising these concerns about age care,

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Speaker 2: stalling of the national health reform negotiations. So we'll stand

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Speaker 2: important and we do need to see a greater level

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Speaker 1: You talk about more beds needed in the system and

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Speaker 1: hundreds of beds needed, the ones to come on just

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Speaker 1: won't be enough. What's your response to that, because that's

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Speaker 1: key to ramping obviously, So.

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Speaker 2: We promised the election that we would bring on three

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Speaker 2: hundred additional beds, build additional three hundred beds. We've now

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Speaker 2: basically doubled that to our plan is now six hundred,

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Speaker 2: and by the end of next year there'll be three

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty coming into the system, and that's the

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Speaker 2: equivalent of a whole new QEH hospital being built. So

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Speaker 2: even by the end of this year, we've got more

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Speaker 2: beds coming at line Mquan Hospital, more beds coming at

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Speaker 2: the Repat, more beds coming at Hampsteads replacing the beds

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Speaker 2: we've just moved to the new QEH building. So there's

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Speaker 2: more beds coming this year and a whole lot more

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Speaker 2: plans are to address this increased demand that we're seeing,

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Speaker 2: but also the increase in terms of our blockage for

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Speaker 2: people getting out of hospital as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, mental health is another big issue. Age care is one,

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Speaker 1: mental health the other. And seeing mental health patients ramped

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Speaker 1: I mean that's so poor. That's a gold plated health

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Speaker 1: we have these issues. Where's that money going.

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Speaker 2: Look, mental health, there is no doubt, is an outsized

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Speaker 2: the additional beds that we're building right now are additional

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Speaker 2: for longer because otherwise the pressures that are there with

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Speaker 2: a smaller number of beds mean that they go in

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Speaker 1: Okay, the beds are one thing, the staff is the other.

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Speaker 1: So for each bed, how many nurses, how many doctors

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Speaker 2: So we've already recruited some fourteen hundred additional clinicians. That's

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Speaker 2: above attrition, and that's all full time equivalent clinicians. So

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Speaker 2: we have been successful already in terms of recruitment. We're

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Speaker 2: still recruiting additional staff. We're bringing in new staff as

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Speaker 2: they graduate. We're also recruiting from interstate and overseas. But

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Speaker 2: there's no doubt that we need to continue to do

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Speaker 2: that to make sure that we can have those beds

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Speaker 2: other issue that I know, this is another issue that

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Speaker 2: all the state ministers have raised for the federal government

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Speaker 2: as well, is around medical places for doctors. They're the

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Speaker 2: only degree that is capped at the moment, So the

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Speaker 2: federal government says how many doctors should go through medical

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Speaker 2: the demand anywhere across the country. And we see that

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Speaker 2: in terms of GPS, we see that in terms of

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Speaker 1: Last week I was talking to Bernadette Mulholland about the

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Speaker 1: means of offloading patients who arrive. Is that just outdoor ramping?

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Speaker 1: Are we dropping off patients who can't get inside and

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Speaker 1: putting them into workers' hearts? They look like side officers

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Speaker 1: on construction sites from the photo.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what photo you looked at, but we're

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Speaker 2: certainly there hasn't been any filized plans in terms of

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Speaker 2: what's happening at Flinders. People are talking with staff about

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Speaker 2: what's worked well at lim McEwan Hospital. At Limaquan Hospital,

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Speaker 2: we've put in place ten offload bays and that means

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Speaker 2: that as the ambulance arrives, the patient's able to go

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Speaker 2: into one of those offload bays be looked after by

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Speaker 2: a nurse. It's not where treatment begins, but it's where

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Speaker 2: the ambulance can get offloaded to respond to critical emergencies

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Speaker 2: in the community, which is their job. And this is

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Speaker 2: used in many other states as well. And what that

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Speaker 2: there means is that the doctors and the nurses can

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Speaker 2: make the best rational decision about who is the next

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Speaker 2: from the waiting room or whether it's coming from the

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Speaker 2: ambulance ramp. So this is effectively a sort of sas

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Speaker 2: waiting room. So given that that's been quite successful at Limcewen,

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Speaker 2: the clinicians believe it's been working there, our other hospitals

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Speaker 2: have been looking at how that could operate safely elsewhere

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Speaker 2: and that's soothing something. Flinders are looking at the options

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Speaker 2: at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's not a bit to get ramping numbers down.

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Speaker 1: Just drop them off here. You go go into this

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Speaker 1: building and someone will look after you. It was not

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Speaker 1: about the numbers.

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Speaker 2: It's about the patients and it's about making sure that

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Speaker 2: people who are calling triple zero can get a community response,

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Speaker 2: which could be your family or my family, or the

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Speaker 2: doctor's family or anybody's family. To make sure that they

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Speaker 2: can get that response in the community and doing it

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Speaker 2: in a safe way, and then enabling the doctors to

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Speaker 2: to get that care without having that pressure of worrying

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Speaker 2: about what's going on with the ambulance service.

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Speaker 1: I know you've got a ten o'clock appointment you're going to,

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Speaker 1: but just quickly flew. Vaccinations highlighted by the death of

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Speaker 1: a twenty year old man and an eighty year old

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Speaker 1: as well in the last week. Both had underlying issues

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Speaker 1: health issues. But it does show the importance, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Getting back absolutely, you know, still encourage people if they

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Speaker 2: haven't got vaccinated already to do so. South Australia has

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Speaker 2: actually done quite well compared to other states in terms

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Speaker 2: of per capita the number of people who've got vaccinated.

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Speaker 2: But you know, there's still we still need to get

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Speaker 2: that message out there. The other message that we've really

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Speaker 2: been trying to push this year as well, is for

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Speaker 2: families with kids under five. That is a cohort that

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Speaker 2: our health officials are really concerned about because they've been

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Speaker 2: less exposed to illnesses like the flu over the past

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Speaker 2: few years through COVID. So please, if you've got little kids,

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Speaker 2: make sure that you get them vaccinated as well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely good advice, all right, Chris Picktent Health Minister, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming in this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Matik