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Speaker 1: He had much to do with Josh.

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Speaker 3: No played against him.

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Speaker 4: He's involved in the Queensland origin sign and Billy's got

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Speaker 4: big raps. Like publicly he has stated, but even behind

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Speaker 4: what happened to Queensland, how they won. They designed a

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Speaker 4: defensive sort of system that spooks Nathan Clear in a

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Speaker 4: big game like they were coming forward coming back. So

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Speaker 4: and that's got credit to do with him. And he

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Speaker 4: cut his teeth at host Plus Cup. South Slogan's for

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Speaker 4: a couple of South Logan for a couple of years,

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Speaker 4: did everything that coaching needed to there. So you talk

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Speaker 2: Well, the Frazult family of course who only Titans.

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Speaker 1: You know, they know how important this next appointment is

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Speaker 1: and the parently they've been very thorough that they reached

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Speaker 3: I agree with it. They have to get this right.

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Speaker 1: Last Friday was saying that this Friday night football coming up,

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Speaker 4: Like Nathan Cleary absolutely smokes this kick and it hits

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Speaker 4: This one here Hudson Young like he may have been

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Speaker 1: It was interesting seeing seeing guys make errors the last

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Speaker 4: I don't see them winning the comp this year, but

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Speaker 1: Do you see when guys make errors like that? Do

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Speaker 4: And I feel like that'll be their storyline. They'll they'll

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Speaker 4: But this isn't young guys that you would be worried about.

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Speaker 1: What's funny here going into that game the other night,

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Speaker 2: They found their formula. They had far less.

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Speaker 4: It was almost like seraldo give them a rocket and said,

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Speaker 4: Their leg speed is a good thing because they can

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Speaker 1: But when they want to score, got to win that.

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Speaker 3: I got to win the ruck. They need to find

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Speaker 1: Speed thought. I thought Galvin was very, very good, and

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Speaker 2: You've got to talk about him.

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Speaker 1: He's the seven. I thought that. I thought his ability

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Speaker 1: to me, Locky is that roaming skillful Thirteen's that's how

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Speaker 4: Galvin's got that in his well.

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Speaker 2: There's some positions that continually evolve and thirteen to one.

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Speaker 4: I think I think Galvin could be a seven and

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Speaker 4: He's got to improve in a couple of areas, like

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Speaker 4: his king game needs to evolve, but that will come

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Speaker 4: with time. Like we always judge our young players the

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Speaker 3: Right in three years time, I think.

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Speaker 4: But right now he's got some areas to improve. And

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Speaker 4: if you can get that done, there's no doubt that there're.

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Speaker 1: A threat, a little bit of a trainspot, a thing

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Speaker 1: see Penrith do it a lot. They always when they

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Speaker 2: If this was Penrith, h'it hit on the outside there?

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Speaker 1: Because you want to make the opposition middles make more

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Speaker 1: and that that's just it's only a tiny little one there,

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Speaker 1: But that's if I was a coach, that's advice i'd

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Speaker 4: It's funny like we always go through this argument around

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Speaker 3: Row, they're off their head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 4: You need to reset the field position at some stage.

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Speaker 4: But the way you reset can be pedestrian or it

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Speaker 3: Where it needs to.

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Speaker 2: You don't burn a play just for the safe.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day, it was always come on, let's

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Speaker 1: you go, okay, let's just reset to give ourselves more

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Speaker 4: Well, one example would be if you're doing a reset play,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 2: First off you said about winning the ruck.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Melbourne just destroyed the Dogs in the first

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Speaker 2: Their outside back just punched holes.

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Speaker 4: In these clips here have just bodies pushing straight through

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Speaker 4: and that's probably why Sirealdo came out with a completely

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Speaker 4: Dogs weren't swarming. They were getting beaten inside shoulder. That's

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Speaker 4: an outside back through the heart of the two front rowers,

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Speaker 1: That's right, And in the second half they really addressed it.

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Speaker 2: Were able to shut the plate play one, play two down.

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Speaker 1: And this is the thing, you know, was playmakers all

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Speaker 1: And we're going to kick long. If all of a

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Speaker 4: And this is where our game can be a bit scientific.

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Speaker 4: So the dogs, for example, we're being blown through the ruck.

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Speaker 4: Too many spaces in their shoulders, so camera Serrealdo would

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Speaker 3: But then the Melbourne Storm have the ability to go

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Speaker 4: So if you go too tight, then you've got the

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Speaker 4: ability to go around. So that's where the science of

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Speaker 1: Who was good till he entrepreneur?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, he was sensational.

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Speaker 1: It's come back. He had a stint out injured, no

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Speaker 1: coincidence when he was missing out of the side that

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Speaker 4: He's got that physicality, but the leg speed, like he

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Speaker 4: goes from zero toe hundred pretty quick and it's almost

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Speaker 4: like every carry is like you're gonna have to hit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a dangerous player.

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Speaker 1: Just the little one again with Tyren Wisher has been fantastic.

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Speaker 1: What I really like about Tyron Wishart is that he's

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Speaker 1: it's a great play for running seven because because it's

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's good that when you get a

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Speaker 4: Tyron can back his running game. If he's got people

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Speaker 4: not in the right space, Matt Burton doesn't turn out

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Speaker 4: as opposed to there's the Keys to the Ferrari takers.

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Speaker 3: For a ride.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what about Tyn wish Up Does he play seven

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Speaker 4: or nine this week?

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Speaker 3: So no, Harry Grant.

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Speaker 4: Did you keep him at seven? Orould you move in

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Speaker 1: I think Past will go to I reckon he'll go

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Speaker 1: to seven. I reckon Tyrant will go to nine. I

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Speaker 1: you can get the same value out he probably more

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Speaker 4: Do you think, yeah, yeah, I think Tyrone's got a

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Speaker 1: This competition has just fallen perfectly, and these last rounds

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Speaker 1: have just it's amazing when you talk about firstly, you

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Speaker 1: that's that's locked in. It's just a matter of who's

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Speaker 1: going to get the Mind Premiership. But let's focus on

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Speaker 1: Oh man, So I mean, she's a massive game come

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Speaker 2: But who is your firstly, who's your top four? Who

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think Raiders and Storm locked in. I think it's

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Speaker 3: It's hard to move the jigsaw around.

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Speaker 4: But I think, for example, the Raiders in the Storm,

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Speaker 4: But for the way that they're playing, I think the

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Speaker 4: I think the Sharks get in there.

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Speaker 3: I think the Sharks might.

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Speaker 1: Jump up into Haven't they been a sleeper?

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Speaker 4: They're just the Warriors will determine that because the Warriors

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Speaker 3: The Eels are playing.

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Speaker 4: Pretty well, and the Warriors play Manly in the last

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Speaker 1: You got we've got dogs sitting there at the third.

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Speaker 1: I think they win one of those games, take them

442
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Speaker 1: to thirty eight. That locks them in in third.

443
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Speaker 2: The Wires have got Paramatta and Manly.

444
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Speaker 1: I see him winning. It's mainly a way to trigger game.

445
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Speaker 1: I see him winning of them. They thirty six, I

446
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Speaker 1: go thirty six. They get that spot. So that's that's

447
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Speaker 1: the top four. But what's as we start to go down.

448
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Speaker 1: What's what's interesting is if we talk about who gets

449
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Speaker 1: into eight eighth spot. So you've got the Roosters there

450
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Speaker 1: and they're plus seventy two one points differential, which is

451
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Speaker 1: going to be really really important. They got the storm

452
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Speaker 1: and then they got South's in the last round, which

453
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Speaker 1: could determine.

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Speaker 3: The Eels might have just cost the Roosters.

455
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that was a poor performance. The season

456
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 4: was right there for them to grab a hold of. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 4: they come off the Dogs performance, which was arguably their best,

458
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Speaker 4: and they turn in arguably their worst.

459
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Speaker 3: So now they have to win every game to solidify.

460
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Speaker 1: And the Roosters, they're acutely aware of what role they're

461
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Speaker 1: going to play in the Rooster's destiny. There's talk that

462
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Speaker 1: ker Murray will be back. That will play Latrell returning,

463
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: Cody Fitt, Johnston Johnson trying to break imagine with Alex

464
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Speaker 1: if he scores two, I would like to see.

465
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Speaker 2: And you'll imagine I would like this man. So and

466
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Speaker 2: this is interesting with the Dolphins.

467
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Speaker 1: So the Dolphins got slightly better points differential plus eighty one,

468
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Speaker 1: but they're two points drift mainly mainly a plus four.

469
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Speaker 3: I can't see.

470
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Speaker 4: No, I don't mainly need to rack up cricket scores against.

471
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Speaker 2: The Dragons Warriors, that's right, and the Titans.

472
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Speaker 4: You look at the Dolphins play the Titans. Right, Let's

473
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Speaker 4: say the Roosters win one.

474
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Speaker 3: Of those games.

475
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Speaker 4: Stormburm's sound given one win, right, that jumps to thirty

476
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Speaker 4: points the Dolphins. That means they need to be both teams.

477
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Speaker 4: They're playing the Titans and the Raiders.

478
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Speaker 2: And both both I mean Raiders obviously, but.

479
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Speaker 3: Raiders might be rested.

480
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Speaker 4: This is the thing, right, So they win against the Titans,

481
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Speaker 4: the Dolphins and the Raiders go, you know what, We've

482
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Speaker 4: got a minded premiership sew up. We're going to rest

483
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Speaker 4: a couple of our players. And the Dolphins go down

484
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Speaker 4: there and get the victory.

485
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Speaker 1: Titans can slip into eighth. Titans is going to be tough, Titans.

486
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Speaker 1: Titans are playing for a new coach. Yeah, there's still coaching, true,

487
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Speaker 1: but Hanna is in the stands down has cast and

488
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Speaker 1: I over all.

489
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Speaker 3: So then go all the way to the bottom of

490
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Speaker 3: the ladder.

491
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Speaker 4: The Titans playing for their new coach, the net Castle Knights.

492
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Speaker 4: They're two points ahead of the Titans. The Knights don't

493
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Speaker 4: pick up a game, They're just allowing the door to

494
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 4: be open for the Titans to win one of those

495
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: and go pass one points differentially.

496
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Speaker 1: So okay, so let's say the Dolphins beat the Titans

497
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Speaker 1: and we get and yeah, the Raiders are pretty much

498
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Speaker 1: going to be lean.

499
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: Locked into a top two position home final. Since round fifteen, the.

500
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Speaker 1: Raiders have had three buys. Do you still rest in

501
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: that last round of your Ricky? Do you still rest

502
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Speaker 1: players or do you think they need to coop playing?

503
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: I think they need to keep playing.

504
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: There's something about that youth that says, if you give

505
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Speaker 4: them the weekend.

506
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Speaker 3: Off, then they might just oh, that's cool, we'll just

507
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: bring week one right.

508
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 4: Ye, Ricky knows them better than me, But yeah, I

509
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 4: think they might.

510
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they might be.

511
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Playing Beam, he'll rest, He'll rest them. How important you see,

512
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: does Craige your submit within the mind Premiership?

513
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Speaker 3: I think he respects it. I think he would love

514
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Speaker 3: to do it.

515
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 4: But I just get this feeling about Melbourne, one having

516
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 4: been there and two just watching from the outside that

517
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Speaker 4: what happened to them last year on Grand Final Day

518
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: is just burning inside and that's the only thing that

519
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: truly matters. Like they just want to get back to

520
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 4: September and they want an opportunity for redemption, and I

521
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Speaker 4: think it's going to drive them all the way to it.

522
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Speaker 1: So Dolphins Rusters, who finishes eighth? I think I think

523
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Speaker 1: it's Roosters purely on the fact that the Dolphins make

524
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Speaker 1: just the amount of injuries, and like, if you think

525
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: at the moment the Manly game the other day, it

526
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Speaker 1: says a lot about where they're at at the moment

527
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Speaker 1: physically and probably mentally as well. To concede fifty eight

528
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Speaker 1: points given the importance of that game, says a lot.

529
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Speaker 1: Just Mitch Moses, where's he at as far as the

530
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: game's best players now, influencial players.

531
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Speaker 3: He's in the conversation, He's in.

532
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 4: I think Nathan and a few others are still there

533
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 4: in terms of best halfbacks. But when he puts it together,

534
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 4: he's a very influential player. I can give Jason Rowle's

535
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 4: a huge credit here. I think that's his greatest coaching performance.

536
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Speaker 4: Like he had that team dialed in and we spoke

537
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Speaker 4: to Mitchell after the game. He said, well, why would

538
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: we take the Russes on through the middle so they.

539
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 3: Move the ball to go through them.

540
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

541
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Speaker 4: And the way that Dylan Walker and Mitchell Moses combined,

542
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 4: they were playing a different speed, but they were moving

543
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Speaker 4: the ball left and right with freedom and scored thirty points.

544
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Speaker 4: But they scored thirty points six tries, semi linebreaks.

545
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Speaker 3: You're man.

546
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: Full, donut none none, that's how they scored tries from kicks,

547
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: an intercept. But their play was so good, like it

548
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 4: just moved the Bruce's defense around.

549
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Speaker 1: Very synchronized in their attack, Very very very good and

550
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Speaker 1: says a lot about Jason Ryles and Dylan Walker. Had

551
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Speaker 1: some terrific years, good years at the House, had some

552
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Speaker 1: great years at Manly, had some really solid years of

553
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: the Warriors. I think he's played his best football this year.

554
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Speaker 1: I think this is his best for end and Josh

555
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: Hadaka made the Fox. I think this is I said

556
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Speaker 1: this on the show last night. I think this is

557
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Speaker 1: his best season, say far, not based on scoring tries

558
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Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, but his leadership.

559
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Speaker 4: If there's any young young winger out there wanting to

560
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Speaker 4: know how to defend as a winger, go watch the

561
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Speaker 4: try that he took the intercept on James Tedesco. He

562
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: was under immense pressure and gave the indication he was

563
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Speaker 4: going to back off, and that made Tedesco throw the ball,

564
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Speaker 4: and he just plucked out.

565
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Speaker 1: Of the good good stuff like rollye coops, I'm gonna

566
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Speaker 1: get some breasts.

567
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Speaker 3: You look good.

568
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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmmmm