Speaker 1: Approche production.
Speaker 2: This podcast contains talk of suicide and suicidal adiation. Listener
Speaker 2: discretion is advised for free counseling twenty four hours. In Australia,
Speaker 2: the number for Lifeline is thirteen eleven fourteen. This is
Speaker 2: Our Little Edie, the story of fifteen year old Eden Westbrook,
Speaker 2: who police say took her own life, but her parents
Speaker 2: and now millions of other people feel there's much more
Speaker 2: to this story. It's a story which, over the past
Speaker 2: nine years for Jason and Amanda has lacked one vital thing, answers,
Speaker 2: and now we all feel like we're closer than ever
Speaker 2: to finding out what happened to Eden Westbrook. Before we
Speaker 2: get into the show, I want to thank everyone that
Speaker 2: supported the podcast and Jason and Amanda's Hunt four answers,
Speaker 2: and now we realize there's a lot more of you
Speaker 2: thanks to that under investigation story from Liz Hayes and
Speaker 2: the team at Channel nine which add a few weeks back.
Speaker 2: Thanks to that story, there's been lots of new people
Speaker 2: coming forward to offer help. If you haven't yet seen
Speaker 2: the show, we've put a link to YouTube and nine
Speaker 2: now in the episode notes below. Over the next few weeks,
Speaker 2: you're going to hear from some of those people that
Speaker 2: popped up because of that under investigation show. One in
Speaker 2: particular we're going to focus on in this episode. It's
Speaker 2: someone that up till now has been very quiet, someone
Speaker 2: who we've tried to reach out to, but to date
Speaker 2: the contact has been brief and most times not very helpful.
Speaker 2: In previous episodes, we've called this person Kate. She's the
Speaker 2: person that police have never spoken to. She's alleged to
Speaker 2: be the last one to see Eden alive. Kate started
Speaker 2: posting on social media the night the special aired on
Speaker 2: Channel nine. We've used an AI generated voice to read
Speaker 2: some of her posts.
Speaker 1: If you don't know me, well, don't try to talk
Speaker 1: to me about that shit. You'll all think you know
Speaker 1: so much. You know shit.
Speaker 2: There was also a meme attached to this post, but
Speaker 2: we didn't get the joke. Then a few minutes later,
Speaker 2: a much larger post, fuck.
Speaker 1: It, I'll say it. You all feel so sorry for
Speaker 1: a young girl who passed away by her own doing
Speaker 1: and a family stuck in a nine year state of
Speaker 1: disbelief and delusions. Yet you don't think it's unfair and
Speaker 1: ludicrous that they blame others. You don't feel bad about
Speaker 1: the innocent person or persons being accused of murder over
Speaker 1: a clear cut suicide. There won't be any investigation for
Speaker 1: a suicide. There is nobody to blame for her hanging,
Speaker 1: unless you'd like to blame the rope or maybe it
Speaker 1: was the trees. For If you believe any of what's
Speaker 1: in the media, you are as stupid and gullible as
Speaker 1: they come. I am going to try and block anyone
Speaker 1: who shares that nonsense or buys into any of it.
Speaker 1: You want to watch fictional television, listen to fictional podcasts,
Speaker 1: and read absolute lies in the mercury, you may as
Speaker 1: well remove yourselves from my social media and my life.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and to the people that have asked if
Speaker 1: I am okay, thank you very much love heart emoji.
Speaker 1: To those who just want to ask questions, mind your
Speaker 1: business now.
Speaker 2: We aren't alleging that this girl we're calling Kate murdered Eden.
Speaker 2: We are saying that she should be talked to because
Speaker 2: of what she told the family and others nine years ago.
Speaker 2: Remember at the time, nine years ago, she went on
Speaker 2: social media and made this statement about Eden. I asked
Speaker 2: Jason and Amanda to read these mumble screenshots the social
Speaker 2: media posts. They don't make a lot of sense and
Speaker 2: they're not grammatically correct, but hopefully you'll get the idea
Speaker 2: of the state the person that wrote them was in
Speaker 2: when she posted them.
Speaker 3: If anyone needs to talk about the said life of
Speaker 3: a beautiful girl, Hunter Westbrook's brightest half. She didn't leave
Speaker 3: any of you, especially you. For those she spoke to
Speaker 3: before five am, you know enough that I can already explain.
Speaker 3: I can't already explain anyone left without confirmation that she
Speaker 3: found her own, cool place to be free. I was
Speaker 3: not there when she took her last crazy dive from
Speaker 3: twice her height, but I found my way to where
Speaker 3: she left after her goodbyes, and anyone that's holding blame
Speaker 3: for Eden's brave, free choice of leaving a life she
Speaker 3: wasn't happy in. She loves you all and is sorry.
Speaker 3: She hopes nobody is worrying about her about anything except
Speaker 3: using the money you would waste on a funeral she
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily want. She's already passing past over and found freedom.
Speaker 3: I want your whole family to design me a small,
Speaker 3: colorful tattoo representing strength, courage, and The last message she
Speaker 3: sent me feeling is in brackets is that she didn't
Speaker 3: feel a thing. She was brave enough to say goodbye
Speaker 3: and then let go of her hips sister before taking
Speaker 3: a brave leap down towards the bay. If the tree
Speaker 3: itself isn't private gardening, I'm sure the counsel will let
Speaker 3: you do as you please. With her last crazy leap.
Speaker 4: She's admitted here, I found my own way to where
Speaker 4: she left her goodbyes, and anyone that's holding blame for
Speaker 4: Eden's brave choice. She told me she found Eden. She's
Speaker 4: obviously talking to Eden that night. You know why is
Speaker 4: Zesel getting she's already passed over? How does she know
Speaker 4: she's passed over?
Speaker 5: She is she there?
Speaker 4: I want your whole family design a small colorful tatoo
Speaker 4: representing strength, courage and the last message she said, the
Speaker 4: last message she sent she wasn't Eden's friend. This girl's
Speaker 4: acting like she's, you know, her soul mate and passing
Speaker 4: on the information to the family of Eden's last words.
Speaker 4: We need to know why she feels she's this connected
Speaker 4: to my daughter. Yet she's with this chick that night
Speaker 4: and we find it dead the next day. That's alarming.
Speaker 4: There's too much in that that needs to be looked at.
Speaker 2: The only thing we think that is important right now
Speaker 2: is for Kate to be formally interviewed by police. Now,
Speaker 2: she doesn't need to answer any questions because she's not
Speaker 2: being accused of any wrongdoing, so she isn't required to
Speaker 2: talk to the police. However, she can be compelled to
Speaker 2: do it by a coroner, and if Jason and Amanda's
Speaker 2: quest to get an open coronial inquest is successful, then
Speaker 2: hopefully that can happen. There was one other post that
Speaker 2: actually was more disturbing the day after the Under Investigation
Speaker 2: show aired, from the girl We're calling.
Speaker 1: Kate So to the ones that harass un threaten, if
Speaker 1: you believe I am capable of murder, then why mouth off?
Speaker 1: It sounds a bit dangerous five laughing emojis.
Speaker 2: After this comment, we started to get a little nervous.
Speaker 2: The comment felt threatening and we weren't the only ones
Speaker 2: to think that. Jason and Amanda sent a letter to
Speaker 2: the Commissioner of Police.
Speaker 4: Dear Commissioner, it is with some reluctance that I write
Speaker 4: to you, given our experiences over the last nine years
Speaker 4: with Tasmania Police and the investigation into our daughter's tragic
Speaker 4: death in twenty fifteen. However, following the broadcast of Under
Speaker 4: Investigation on Tuesday night eighteen.
Speaker 2: I won't read any more of the letter to the Commissioner,
Speaker 2: but Jason and Amanda got a response saying the matter
Speaker 2: had been passed on to the Deputy Commissioner who's responsible
Speaker 2: for police operations. On Friday, the twenty eighth of June,
Speaker 2: we received an email from Regina.
Speaker 6: Weiss, dear review participant. Today I delivered my final report
Speaker 6: into former police officer Paul Reynolds to the Tasmanian Police Commissioner.
Speaker 6: I understand that it is intended to be publicly released
Speaker 6: next week. Thank you for coming forward and sharing your experiences,
Speaker 6: thoughts and insightful comments with us over the last eight months.
Speaker 6: Without the conversations we had and written submissions received, the
Speaker 6: review and final report would not have been possible. I
Speaker 6: am hopeful that the healing process can commence and that
Speaker 6: valuable learnings will assist in ensuring that history does not repeat.
Speaker 6: The report remains entirely deidentified. There is no draft report
Speaker 6: in existence that reveals the identity of any participant. As promised,
Speaker 6: The notes of our conversations remain separate from Tasmania Police
Speaker 6: or government and will not be shared unless you consent
Speaker 6: or ask me to. I will share the final report
Speaker 6: with you at the earliest opportunity next week. In it,
Speaker 6: you may recognize familiar words which may be yours or
Speaker 6: those of people who had similar experiences in thoughts.
Speaker 2: Studios across the next few episodes of Our Little Lady.
Speaker 2: Will share that report into Paul Reynolds. There was also
Speaker 2: talk of Eden Westbrook and this case in Parliament last week.
Speaker 7: My question is to the Attorney General. Attorney General, are
Speaker 7: you aware of the under investigation story that aired on
Speaker 7: Tuesday the eighteenth of June relating to the tragic death
Speaker 7: of fifteen year old Eden Westbrook in twenty fifteen Instant
Speaker 7: Helens And would you consider doing what the previous Attorney
Speaker 7: General did in the Jarri Wise case in directing that
Speaker 7: an inquest be held for surant to Section twenty four
Speaker 7: to one G of the Tasmanian Coroners Act, given the
Speaker 7: requests and applications to date by the Westbrook family have
Speaker 7: been consistently refused. Good question, Thank you called the Attorney General.
Speaker 8: Thank you Speaker. I think the honorable Member for his
Speaker 8: question and immediately and respond and say what a tragic outcome,
Speaker 8: And my heart goes out to the Westbrook family. Very sincerely,
Speaker 8: very sincerely. It's a devastating matter, the subject of a
Speaker 8: coronial investigation and the coronials. The coronial findings were made public.
Speaker 8: The colonial report included the circumstances leading up to Miss
Speaker 8: Westbrook's death and referred to the competency of the police investigation.
Speaker 8: The coronial investigation was conducted by Saint Helen's Police and
Speaker 8: provided to the coroner. That's the advice that I have
Speaker 8: obviously with anyone who would have information that has not
Speaker 8: been provided to police should contact Saint Helen's Police on
Speaker 8: one three one triple or with the respect to the
Speaker 8: other part of the question, I'd like to take that
Speaker 8: on notice and get back to the honorable member. So
Speaker 8: take these matters very seriously.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I note that that questions being taken on notice.
Speaker 1: Think on the speak.
Speaker 2: I said at the top of this episode that there
Speaker 2: were two people that started making noise after the Under
Speaker 2: Investigation TV special. We've already heard from the girl we
Speaker 2: call Kate on her socials and then on the first
Speaker 2: of July twenty twenty four, Amber Wilson from the Tasmanian
Speaker 2: Mercury had another person come forward. It was from the
Speaker 2: woman who was the delivery driver of the first one
Speaker 2: to see Eden's body in the park. She's agreed to
Speaker 2: talk with us on the podcast, but I want to
Speaker 2: give you a warning first. The next part of the
Speaker 2: podcast is graphic in nature and talks about the manner
Speaker 2: of death and what this lady saw. We think it's
Speaker 2: important to the story, but also know and advise that
Speaker 2: it could be confronting to some listeners.
Speaker 5: I saw an advertisement on TV for it coming.
Speaker 2: Up, and what were your first thoughts when you saw that?
Speaker 5: I thought, oh, wow, finally something's going to happen, and
Speaker 5: I wrang on my children and I said, oh, watch this.
Speaker 5: You know, I think they're doing something at last, because.
Speaker 2: You're watching that show on Channel nine. What were your thoughts.
Speaker 5: More questions than answers, this belief that they I was
Speaker 5: just shocked that how on earth could they not investigate properly?
Speaker 2: And so we're not talking about under investigations investigations. You're
Speaker 2: talking about the police's investigations of Eden Westbrook's death.
Speaker 5: Yes, well, that's the impression I got from the program.
Speaker 5: Under investigations. Just thought this is just all so wrong.
Speaker 5: So that's why I thought I'll contact the journal and
Speaker 5: hopefully add some more weight behind it that it just
Speaker 5: doesn't add up.
Speaker 2: I want to take your mind back to that day
Speaker 2: on the eighteenth of February twenty fifteen, some sort of
Speaker 2: nine years ago. Tell me what you were doing and
Speaker 2: give me the detail of what you saw.
Speaker 5: Well at that stage, as I say, with my business,
Speaker 5: I stayed overnight every Tuesday night in Saint Helens. So
Speaker 5: I was leaving early Wednesday mornings to continue on my
Speaker 5: deliveries and I was driving down the main road and
Speaker 5: I just noticed something on the right hand side in
Speaker 5: the memorial park and I thought, oh, that looks strange,
Speaker 5: and I throwed down and my first impression was, oh,
Speaker 5: somebody's playing a sick joke. There's a mannequin in the tree.
Speaker 5: And I pulled over and rang my son in Melbourne
Speaker 5: and said to him, and he said, well, you should
Speaker 5: go over and have a look, mum. So I parked
Speaker 5: the truck and walked over and yes, it was a
Speaker 5: young girl and I sort of leant over and just
Speaker 5: touched the back of her hand and it was obvious
Speaker 5: that she'd passed away, and so then I looked around
Speaker 5: and the police station was dished up the road a
Speaker 5: little bit, so I went up there. There was nobody
Speaker 5: in attendance, so I rang the number that was there
Speaker 5: and they said, and I said, there's a young girl
Speaker 5: hanging in a tree in the memorial parking Saint Helen
Speaker 5: And they said, oh right, okay, we'll get somebody to
Speaker 5: come up from Saint Mary's. And I said, well, how
Speaker 5: long is that going to be? And they said, oh,
Speaker 5: probably about half an hour. So I went back to
Speaker 5: the truck and I thought half an hour. Current live
Speaker 5: there for half an hour? So I thought, oh, at
Speaker 5: the hospital that's open all the time. So I went
Speaker 5: along to the local hospital and wandered in and finally
Speaker 5: found heard some voices in a room up the back.
Speaker 5: Knocked on the door and there were a group of
Speaker 5: people there in a meeting, and I said, oh, there's
Speaker 5: a young girl down in the memorial park and they said, oh, right, okay,
Speaker 5: and they were just sitting there and I said, well,
Speaker 5: is somebody going to come down? And they said, oh,
Speaker 5: if she did, and I said yes, and they said, oh,
Speaker 5: all right, somebody will come down soon. And so I
Speaker 5: just walked out, got back in the trust, rose back down,
Speaker 5: and went back over because I thought, oh, you know,
Speaker 5: they didn't look like hail in a hurry either. And
Speaker 5: so I just stood there with her one to stop
Speaker 5: anybody else coming up, because people were just starting to
Speaker 5: get out and about it that the morning, to stop
Speaker 5: people coming up and contaminating the area until the police
Speaker 5: got there, just to be with her, you know, spoke
Speaker 5: to her, and then he looked around and you know,
Speaker 5: just observed as much as I possibly could.
Speaker 2: While you're standing there waiting for someone from the hospital
Speaker 2: to arrive. Is there anything that you notice about And
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to ask this, and I'm sure it's traumatizing
Speaker 2: and for anyone listening this is you know, what we're
Speaker 2: about to talk about now is will be disturbing for
Speaker 2: some people. Is there anything noticed about her body?
Speaker 5: Well, the first thing I noticed from the road was
Speaker 5: the angle of her right arm was out sort of
Speaker 5: like at a right angle, not down beside a body.
Speaker 5: That's why I honestly thought it was a manequin or something,
Speaker 5: because I thought that's not natural for somebody that's hung themselves.
Speaker 5: You know, you would imagine that their arms would be
Speaker 5: straight down beside their body.
Speaker 2: Is this the first time you'd seen something like this?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, but you.
Speaker 2: Had previously worked for sin John Ambulance. Is that right?
Speaker 5: Yes, back in the day in country areas with John Ambulance,
Speaker 5: attended accidents and everything. I did some work volunteering attending
Speaker 5: car accidents, and you don't get used to it, but
Speaker 5: it's just a fact of life, and you sort of
Speaker 5: have to detach a bit and just get in a
Speaker 5: professional mode.
Speaker 2: Was there anything else around the scene that felt odd?
Speaker 5: Yes, he had light gray track pants on and there
Speaker 5: was no I sort of looked and thought, there's no
Speaker 5: bodily discharge, which also in the majority of cases I understand,
Speaker 5: happens upon an incident like that. So I thought that
Speaker 5: was weird. And then the lex thing was the angle
Speaker 5: When I got up really close was the rope. There
Speaker 5: was no noose. It was wrapped around the branch of
Speaker 5: the tree quite high up, came down beside her ear,
Speaker 5: just resting under her tin, and back up the other side,
Speaker 5: and then wrapped around the tree a bit further along.
Speaker 5: And I thought, whoa, if you'd have dropped from that height,
Speaker 5: it would have just slipped off and then so I
Speaker 5: looked really close, and I couldn't see any obvious mark,
Speaker 5: you know, from a rope, you know, grazing or anything
Speaker 5: like that. It sort of shocked me that how could
Speaker 5: this happen? It just did not seem real.
Speaker 2: Were there any markings or anything unusual about Eden's face
Speaker 2: when you saw.
Speaker 5: Her, No, it just looked peaceful.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you to try and remember your
Speaker 2: thoughts back at that time, back in twenty fifteen. Did
Speaker 2: you think that this young girl had taken her life
Speaker 2: or did you think there was something else?
Speaker 5: The more I looked, the more it just looked did
Speaker 5: not gell with somebody hanging themselves. There was a pair
Speaker 5: of ugg boots on the ground just behind her. And again,
Speaker 5: if you'd struggled and kicked them off, surely the rope
Speaker 5: would have slipped from under your chin. I remember thinking
Speaker 5: that I sort of I didn't walk around because I
Speaker 5: didn't want to contaminate the scene, as I said, but
Speaker 5: I sort of peered around. Couldn't see any other belongings,
Speaker 5: no backpack or bag or anything like that. Just did
Speaker 5: not seem consistent. And also, how on earth did she
Speaker 5: get up there that high and dropped from that height
Speaker 5: again without the rope, just sitting off from under a tint.
Speaker 5: It just did not seem plausibook.
Speaker 2: Do you recall how high her feet were off the ground.
Speaker 5: It's a fair memory now, would have been about two
Speaker 5: three feet I would say, about about a meter bit less.
Speaker 5: I suppose there was nothing else that you know, she
Speaker 5: could have just put the rope up and then stood
Speaker 5: on and kicked out from under it. There was no
Speaker 5: nothing for her to have stood on, to have got
Speaker 5: into that position.
Speaker 2: Either you're standing there in the park at madea cove
Speaker 2: at the memorial park there at Fisherman's Memorial and and
Speaker 2: you're talking to Eden, who's now deceased. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 2: waiting for someone from the hospital or police to arrive,
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then what.
Speaker 5: Happens another lady came up. She'd been out walking for
Speaker 5: the morning. And the elderly lady started to walk up
Speaker 5: and I said, oh, no, no, please, don't come up here.
Speaker 5: It's not very nice. And she said, oh, that's okay.
Speaker 5: And we were just talking for a minute, and then
Speaker 5: she left. And then finally one of the nurses came
Speaker 5: down from the hospital and started to come over and
Speaker 5: I stopped her from going too close again. You know, no,
Speaker 5: don't walk there, wait till the police come and coordinate
Speaker 5: it off. And I said, you know, she's definitely deceased.
Speaker 5: And then she just started saying, oh, stupid girl, Why
Speaker 5: on earth did she do this? And I said, oh,
Speaker 5: beg your pardon. So why she had to do this?
Speaker 5: And I said, well, she was obviously in the dark pace.
Speaker 5: If she did this, well she should have got help.
Speaker 5: Then by then I was getting really angry. I just thought,
Speaker 5: you know, have some empathy, have some understanding. I just
Speaker 5: and I thought, I'm not going to stand here and
Speaker 5: listen to this. I've been there for about twenty minutes,
Speaker 5: half our away. Then I said, look, the police should
Speaker 5: be here anytime. Here's my name, my phone number, if
Speaker 5: you could poward that on, I'm going to be on
Speaker 5: my way. And so that's when I left.
Speaker 2: Kim. Do you remember the time that you first spotted
Speaker 2: Eden's body.
Speaker 5: It's would have been round about seven o'clock.
Speaker 2: In the morning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, between seven seven point thirty. I mean, there should
Speaker 5: be record of when my call went through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they see the first chorus received at six fifty
Speaker 2: seven am.
Speaker 5: Right right, yeah, so round about seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you go. You obviously are traumatized, but you'd
Speaker 2: seen this sort of thing before and attended accidents with
Speaker 2: the Saint John Ambulance. So you've given your number over
Speaker 2: to the nurse on site and said to with that
Speaker 2: onto police. When did you hear from police?
Speaker 5: When I got to vish Ando, I was doing delivery
Speaker 5: and then they rang. I can't recall what times. I've
Speaker 5: got something in my memory about nine o'clock.
Speaker 2: So a couple of hours after you'd see Eden that officer.
Speaker 2: What did that officer ask?
Speaker 5: He said, oh, it's Saint Helen's police. I'm ringing about.
Speaker 5: I understand that you discovered the body and I said, yes,
Speaker 5: that's right. I said is it suspicious? And he said,
Speaker 5: oh no, no, I wouldn't say that. And I said, oh,
Speaker 5: there were just a few things that didn't look right
Speaker 5: and he said I nine. He said, I would you
Speaker 5: mind giving a statement? Where are you based? And I
Speaker 5: said down south? I'm on my way back, working my
Speaker 5: way back down to Hobart. And he said, oh, well,
Speaker 5: when you get to Hobart, would you mind calling in
Speaker 5: the Hobart police station and then give a statement and
Speaker 5: I said, yes, that's fine, I'll do that, which I did.
Speaker 2: So that statement was written Affidavid, Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 5: There were a couple of officers that sat with me
Speaker 5: and I went through everything that I could recall and describe.
Speaker 2: And did you tell him about the army? Did you
Speaker 2: tell him about the rope?
Speaker 5: Yes, all of that, all of the detail that I've
Speaker 5: given you in.
Speaker 2: That first affidavit, which was done on the eighteenth to
Speaker 2: February twenty fifteen, the day that Eden's body was found
Speaker 2: in Hobart, to two officers, you stated everything you've stated
Speaker 2: today to me.
Speaker 5: Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Following that affidavit, that written statement to police, did you
Speaker 2: then hear from police again?
Speaker 5: About six months later, I got a call from Bridgewater
Speaker 5: Police Station, which is the closest to where I live,
Speaker 5: and they asked if I'd mind coming in because the
Speaker 5: coroner had a few more questions for me. So I
Speaker 5: went over and they were inquiring about if I'd noticed
Speaker 5: anything unusual about her risk and I said no, I
Speaker 5: didn't didn't notice anything about a risk at all. And
Speaker 5: I said why is that? And they said, apparently at
Speaker 5: some stage her ricks had been tied behind her back,
Speaker 5: And I said, ah, so it wasn't suicide. And they said, oh,
Speaker 5: we don't know. And I said, well, you can't tie
Speaker 5: your own risks behind your back surely unless you're fodeni.
Speaker 5: I said, so that just confirms my suspicions that it
Speaker 5: wasn't suicide. And they said, oh, well, that's up to
Speaker 5: the corness she determined. And then later I thought, well,
Speaker 5: that would probably explain the angle of her arm. You know,
Speaker 5: I could have been tied behind her back. The angle
Speaker 5: of the elbow would be consistent. You know, you put
Speaker 5: your hands behind your back, your elbow sticks out as
Speaker 5: an angle, and then when it's released, it's obviously come out,
Speaker 5: but it's been set in that position. The angle of
Speaker 5: the eilboats.
Speaker 2: So in that six months since you first spotted Eden
Speaker 2: and then you go back to Bridgewater Police Station two,
Speaker 2: is that a sworn affidavit that you're making there or
Speaker 2: is it just an interview with police? Did you sign anything?
Speaker 2: I guess it's my question.
Speaker 5: That I can't remember that far back, Okay. I think
Speaker 5: I think they just had a sheet of questions from
Speaker 5: the corner and just filled in the answers. I can't
Speaker 5: recall if I signed it or not.
Speaker 2: Can I ask a few other questions from that time
Speaker 2: six months after Eden died through to when you saw
Speaker 2: the program on Channel nine under investigation. Did you hear
Speaker 2: any more from police or anyone in Tasmania about the
Speaker 2: Eden Westbrook case?
Speaker 5: No? No, And every now and then, as I was
Speaker 5: infant Helen's I'd ask people have you heard any more
Speaker 5: about it? And they said, no, very quiet, we haven't
Speaker 5: heard a thing. And I said, well, surely there's been
Speaker 5: a coronial inquiry by now, and quite a few customers
Speaker 5: that I kept queering said no, we haven't heard anything.
Speaker 2: We're aware. In twenty twenty three, a detective who was
Speaker 2: reinvestigating some of the claims that Eden's family, Jason and Amanda,
Speaker 2: had made about their daughter's death. What we have from
Speaker 2: police is that he looked into the death again. Did
Speaker 2: you just to clarify you didn't have any contact from
Speaker 2: any police officer? Thanks?
Speaker 5: No, no.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: The next guy heard about it was I saw an
Speaker 5: article in the paper that somebody else had come forward
Speaker 5: with information. And again I said to all my family
Speaker 5: and friends that knew, I said, oh, finally something might happen.
Speaker 5: Now somebody has come forward with some more information and again.
Speaker 5: Each time I was in Saint Helen's, I'd ask and no,
Speaker 5: they said, we haven't heard anymore. We saw the thing
Speaker 5: in the paper, but nobody had any more information.
Speaker 2: Kim, thank you so much for coming forward. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for being able to recount something that is
Speaker 2: obviously disturbing for you to relive nine years later. And
Speaker 2: we appreciate you coming forward.
Speaker 5: It's just the right thing to do, I mean, and
Speaker 5: hopefully there's some justice now. As I explained, I have
Speaker 5: six children of my own, you know, I just feel
Speaker 5: heartbroken to that family and I hope, I hope the
Speaker 5: truth comes out for them.
Speaker 2: As we hit publish on this episode, which was supposed
Speaker 2: to be released on Monday, we received a late text
Speaker 2: from Jason and Amanda. It was from the Deputy Commissioner
Speaker 2: of Police in response to the letter that Jason and
Speaker 2: Amanda had sent around Kate's social media posts. The information
Speaker 2: I'm about to read is something that nobody knew until now.
Speaker 2: It's addressed to Jason Westbrook. The subject says, response to
Speaker 2: email twentieth of June twenty twenty four, Eden Westbrook case
Speaker 2: concerns of safety and welfare of the girl. We're calling Kate.
Speaker 2: It reads, Dear mister Westbrook, thanks for your email and
Speaker 2: the information it contained concerning the safety and welfare. I'm
Speaker 2: advised that I was interviewed by police regarding Eden's death
Speaker 2: as part of inquiries undertaken last year into the further
Speaker 2: information you provided. The investigation into that further information found
Speaker 2: no evidence having contact with Eden on the night of
Speaker 2: her death or to her being otherwise involved. Thank you
Speaker 2: for highlighting your concerns regarding this. I can confirm that
Speaker 2: we are satisfied with her safety and well being. Sincerely,
Speaker 2: the acting Commander, Jason and Amanda, nor any one on
Speaker 2: the podcast or under investigation, or anybody else that's trying
Speaker 2: to find the truth about what happened to Eden. Westbrook
Speaker 2: didn't know of this information. The girl we're calling Kate
Speaker 2: herself has never published on socials that she had been
Speaker 2: talked to by police. We are aware of an investigation
Speaker 2: that happened in twenty twenty three after Jason and Amanda
Speaker 2: reached out to have police further investigate Eden's death. As
Speaker 2: you heard from Kim, the delivery driver, as part of
Speaker 2: that investigation in twenty twenty three, she was never contacted
Speaker 2: in the next episode, we'll try and uncover who police
Speaker 2: spoke to in twenty twenty three and what information they
Speaker 2: may or may not have missed. That's next time on
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