Speaker 1: I record this podcast on Gadigul Country. I'd like to
Speaker 1: pay my respect to the traditional.
Speaker 2: Custodians and I'm recording o Urando Country, part of the
Speaker 2: Cooler Nation. Let's go.
Speaker 1: I know you're going to dig this. It's like I've
Speaker 1: been given like an extra sprinkle of something.
Speaker 2: You've got layers, Yeah, I got layers. I was just thinking,
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're just such beautiful storytellers.
Speaker 1: You're making a lot of sense to that girl. No,
Speaker 1: I'm done.
Speaker 2: Let's been too honest to go. What's your earliest childhood
Speaker 2: of Nadoc.
Speaker 1: Maddie Well, I have a memory of Nadock when I
Speaker 1: went to live with my dad, and that's probably as
Speaker 1: far as I can go back when it comes to
Speaker 1: memories of Nadock Week. And there was this celebration in
Speaker 1: the local park of the community of Temworth and know
Speaker 1: the Paris Beau de la Cruz and I think Nathan Merritt,
Speaker 1: so you know, famous first name sporting icons came to
Speaker 1: the town and they put on this big day with
Speaker 1: the barbecue and the whole community came out to meet
Speaker 1: them and connect with them, and it was like, I
Speaker 1: think the weeks the Natoc Week's major event in Tenworth
Speaker 1: and it was in my community of cold Au, So
Speaker 1: that's I think one of the first memories I had
Speaker 1: that is a clear memory of what NATO Week felt
Speaker 1: like because it was, you know, very much in community.
Speaker 1: I was around ten, eleven years old and it was
Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful time. It's a core memory of mine
Speaker 1: because it does flash back into my memory every year
Speaker 1: that Nadok rolls around.
Speaker 2: Did you know like historically what Natok was at that time?
Speaker 1: No, I think because I was a young kid. I
Speaker 1: just felt like it was a week where black fellows
Speaker 1: celebrated who we are and what our community is about,
Speaker 1: especially that community aspect to it. And I remember there
Speaker 1: was a lot of like music and sport and these
Speaker 1: sort of modern interpretations of our culture. Yeah, that we're
Speaker 1: so connected with. You know, black fellows love their footy
Speaker 1: and they love to perform and dance, and I think
Speaker 1: that's at the core of our culture. So it's, you know,
Speaker 1: that continuation of culture. And I remember the feeling and
Speaker 1: the community aspect to this day, but I don't remember thinking, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a protest for our community. I never remember
Speaker 1: that feeling. What about you?
Speaker 2: No, same like I don't remember it being I just
Speaker 2: do remember it being a celebration. I remember similar age,
Speaker 2: Like I think my earliest childhood is again that ten
Speaker 2: eleven year old self, and I think like I was
Speaker 2: at Canarv East Canarvan Primary School and it was I
Speaker 2: think I made a bit No, I think I might
Speaker 2: have been a bit a bit younger, because I do
Speaker 2: remember the time that I was kind of taken from school,
Speaker 2: or me and my brother were taken from school was
Speaker 2: sort of like that nine years old kind of stage.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it would have been a bit earlier. And
Speaker 2: I have two memories. I have one memory of being
Speaker 2: in like the assembly area and being at you know,
Speaker 2: primary school and then having like these you know, trustle
Speaker 2: tables lined up and they had like kangaroo stew, like
Speaker 2: one of the aunties had come in and made like
Speaker 2: stew and really fresh damper, and we'd all line up
Speaker 2: every like every year, and we'd all like move through
Speaker 2: and we would all sit in the whole school would
Speaker 2: sit in the assembly area. We had like maybe four
Speaker 2: hundred less than that students at my school I think
Speaker 2: maybe even yeah, maybe even a bit less than that,
Speaker 2: like two hundred maybe, Okay, and we'd all sit in
Speaker 2: the assembly area, Black white, Asian, you know, all of
Speaker 2: the kids like all different cultures would all sit and
Speaker 2: we would all eat damper and kangaroo stew that some
Speaker 2: of the aunties had come in and it made, and
Speaker 2: like the canteen would also like give us free Milo's
Speaker 2: that day and stuff as well. So you know, it
Speaker 2: was like a like you know, as a kid, you think, oh,
Speaker 2: this is amazing, Like you're like yeah, and you know,
Speaker 2: it was like during class. It wasn't just like lunchtime.
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, you're getting out of class to
Speaker 2: have a feed, like which is the best. But I
Speaker 2: don't remember it again like it coming off a protests.
Speaker 2: I do remember it being like a celebration, and you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, most of the little Nonga
Speaker 2: kids or the Yamagi kids there would all sort of
Speaker 2: congregate together and like we would know all the families there.
Speaker 2: It was nice. I really like enjoyed that memory. The
Speaker 2: other memory that kind of comes with that, which is
Speaker 2: very unique and I've actually never told this story, was
Speaker 2: when Australia the film was being filmed. Yes, they came
Speaker 2: to all these rural schools and I didn't know it
Speaker 2: at the time, but my brother was auditioned for it.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I had to wait after school because he was
Speaker 2: auditioning for it because they wanted a.
Speaker 1: Little kid, yeah Nullah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And my brother got picked up to do like
Speaker 2: to audition and I was waiting outside. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I actually auditioned myself. I think I have been
Speaker 2: a bit too old for it, okay, but I remember
Speaker 2: waiting outside the music room, which is where they did
Speaker 2: the audition at that it's kind of those twas there
Speaker 2: that's kind of weird, Like when I think about it, like,
Speaker 2: no was he.
Speaker 1: I think maybe what would have happened is they would
Speaker 1: have got a shortlist together and put them in front.
Speaker 2: Of bas But isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: I mean it's such a bit of a tangent. But
Speaker 1: what did you think of the film Australia?
Speaker 2: You know, I actually don't remember it. I need to think.
Speaker 2: I think I need to rewatch it because there's Nicole Kidman.
Speaker 1: Right, it's Nicole Kidman's few Jackman. But also you know
Speaker 1: Ershley Yovic is in it, and there's also the young
Speaker 1: Nullah who's Brendan. Brendan. I want to say his last name.
Speaker 1: I don't know his last name, but deadly little actor.
Speaker 1: He really held that film together. But you want to
Speaker 1: know a secret about Australia, it's bas Lherman's least favorite
Speaker 1: film he's done. He told me that he didn't love it.
Speaker 2: Why did he shoot it? Then?
Speaker 1: Well, he had great aspirations, but I think there were
Speaker 1: problems with the production and the studio side of things
Speaker 1: that wanted it to be more Hollywood, and he wanted
Speaker 1: to be more grounded of Australia. And I think that
Speaker 1: it just became too much of a dramatized Hollywood film
Speaker 1: rather than the truth of the story. And yeah, he
Speaker 1: told me that, and I thought, Oh, I wonder how
Speaker 1: many people he said that too.
Speaker 2: But anyway, watch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But I don't remember many conversations with family about Nadoc
Speaker 1: Day though. You know, it was never something that was
Speaker 1: brought up to me by my white mum when I
Speaker 1: was younger, before I moved to back home to community
Speaker 1: in Little Dad. So there's not a lot of young
Speaker 1: memories of Nadok. But now that I've gotten older, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm so much more aware of where this
Speaker 1: day came from. It came from a protest, you know,
Speaker 1: the day of Morning in nineteen thirty eight. NADOK stands
Speaker 1: for the National Aborigines, which we don't say anymore, but
Speaker 1: it stands for the National Aborigines and Irelander's Day Observance Committee.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many people know that. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe MOB know that. I think like
Speaker 2: when you get older and you start like getting more
Speaker 2: education around the you know the history of so called Australia,
Speaker 2: you do know that, But I don't think they know
Speaker 2: it's an observance committee. I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: think like day of Celebration, which is kind of what
Speaker 2: we see it as and what it's turned into and
Speaker 2: what it turned into. Yeah, and I think like that,
Speaker 2: you know what, I think that encompasses what MOB are like.
Speaker 2: You know, there's sometimes I think, you know, we can
Speaker 2: often constantly play in that discourse, but we are very celebratory,
Speaker 2: you know, MOB like, we we love celebrations who we are.
Speaker 2: And I think, like I love NATOK because of that reason,
Speaker 2: because I think it highlights all the good things. There
Speaker 2: obviously are some pretty like negative things, you know, we
Speaker 2: know that. Actually I was having not to go on
Speaker 2: another tangent. But I was having this yarn with mim Mia. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I feel like I've got this like desensitization to
Speaker 2: death unfortunately, you know, grief, et cetera. But I said
Speaker 2: to her, well, you know, I've got a lower life
Speaker 2: expectancy to you, and she was like, yeah, but like
Speaker 2: you're healthy. I'm like no, but like I do, Like
Speaker 2: that's the reality and the fact. So you know, there's
Speaker 2: those horrible statistics of you know, life expectancy gap obviously.
Speaker 2: But I feel like this week and the theme this
Speaker 2: year is the next generation, Strength, Vision and legacy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about the theme when you
Speaker 1: heard it announced? Did you resonate with this?
Speaker 2: I love every single theme that we've ever had to
Speaker 2: It was the one where it was about the elders
Speaker 2: women elders. Because of her, Because of her, we can,
Speaker 2: That is my favorite because obviously, like yeah, because of her.
Speaker 1: That one really rang true to so many people, Like
Speaker 1: that is a theme that is stuck with a lot
Speaker 1: of people because of her, we can. That phrase is
Speaker 1: so powerful And I remember really celebrating you know, First
Speaker 1: Nations women that year, and I think that's that's such
Speaker 1: a powerful theme.
Speaker 2: What do you think of, you know, the next generation,
Speaker 2: what kind of legacy would you like?
Speaker 1: You know, I love this theme. I think it is
Speaker 1: about our future. So many of the conversations in our
Speaker 1: community and outside of our community about our communities is
Speaker 1: about our past, and I think that that is super
Speaker 1: important to recognize and for there to be truth telling
Speaker 1: and accountability when it comes to the past of our
Speaker 1: experiences as a community. But there's also the idea of
Speaker 1: hope when looking forward, and there is this idea of
Speaker 1: the next generation taking leadership and being in spaces that
Speaker 1: not necessarily in the past have been open for us
Speaker 1: or we've been invited to be a part of. So
Speaker 1: for me, the next generation, in the future generations, it's
Speaker 1: an exciting time for our people. I think that our
Speaker 1: ancestors would be so proud of the change that has
Speaker 1: been created, the people that have been the trailblazers that
Speaker 1: have pushed down the barriers to some of the parts
Speaker 1: of our society that we just weren't always a part
Speaker 1: of or welcomed in. And I think that there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of change. I truly believe that small conversations
Speaker 1: over a long period of time is a really great
Speaker 1: way to create change because there's learning that can be
Speaker 1: done between these conversations. And so when things take a
Speaker 1: little while and the conversation is continuous, I don't see
Speaker 1: it as a bad thing. I actually encourage these conversations
Speaker 1: that take a little bit of time and depth, because
Speaker 1: sometimes when you have moments of extremism and things change quickly,
Speaker 1: the learning and the key moments throughout the journey of
Speaker 1: you hate that word throughout the journey of learning.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but it's been a journey like for a mob,
Speaker 2: like you know, constantly having to go up against a
Speaker 2: system that wasn't built for you, like, and you know,
Speaker 2: being a black woman as well, like having to kind
Speaker 2: of navigate that being a part of a minority group,
Speaker 2: being a woman, being a black woman, It's like there's
Speaker 2: already something already obstructing, and I'm like, no, well, why
Speaker 2: don't we just like start making our own little tables.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a lot of you can see that happening.
Speaker 2: You can absolutely see it. And I think one of
Speaker 2: the people that really inspires me is Leah Purcell, Like
Speaker 2: she is one of those black inspiring women that just
Speaker 2: goes and like just trojects forward and has no apology
Speaker 2: about it, and I'm just speaking on behalf of women,
Speaker 2: but I think there are so many beautiful black men
Speaker 2: out there as well that are like like yourself, like
Speaker 2: thriving in spaces and not asking for permission, like just
Speaker 2: going being like, well you don't have it, so I'm here,
Speaker 2: so let's do it, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's the exciting part about this theme. It's
Speaker 1: the next generation. We have built such a strength within
Speaker 1: our community because of what we've been through in our
Speaker 1: lived experiences. That the strength, the vision, and legacy part
Speaker 1: of this theme I think resonates with so many of
Speaker 1: us because, as you know, our people are very resilient.
Speaker 1: I think that resilience isn't always something that I think
Speaker 1: you should strive to be because I don't know that
Speaker 1: having to push through barriers and challenges your whole life
Speaker 1: to be resilient is the goal. But it does provide
Speaker 1: you with a strength, and it provides you with this
Speaker 1: inner ability to be able to keep going. And I
Speaker 1: think that our community has, you know, so much of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think persistence is like one of the things
Speaker 2: that I would definitely say you and I both carry.
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of mob when they're up
Speaker 2: against these challenges or these obstructions and these like barriers.
Speaker 2: The mob that persist are the ones that reap the benefits.
Speaker 2: I think like they just like go through it and
Speaker 2: they're like, you know what. And I think persistence builds resilience.
Speaker 2: But I think the other things that build resilience is
Speaker 2: gratitude and like culture. I think those the two and connection.
Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy because like, I think everything that I've done,
Speaker 2: I've never gone a miss without being like grateful for
Speaker 2: the opportunity. But I also there's I also know that
Speaker 2: there's always more work to be done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think do you reckon? Like absolutely, Like the
Speaker 1: whole gratitude side of thing is such a unique, I
Speaker 1: think driving point of our community too, because one thing
Speaker 1: that I know that you will resonate with as well
Speaker 1: is that we never do it for ourselves. When we're
Speaker 1: doing things, there's such a bigger picture. It's not singular,
Speaker 1: it's community orientated. When we're pushing for change, if we're
Speaker 1: you know, trying to do things that will create you know,
Speaker 1: a positive impact, it's not just for us, it's for
Speaker 1: our communities. And I think that the whole vision part
Speaker 1: of this theme is about what is next, Like what
Speaker 1: is the vision that the young people, the new voices
Speaker 1: of our community want or want to see changed. And
Speaker 1: I think that that's an exciting thing because times are changing.
Speaker 1: It's not what do they say, We're not in Kansas anymore?
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me something about all three of the theme.
Speaker 2: So we've got strength, vision, and legacy. Like, tell me
Speaker 2: one thing you would want from all of those?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the strength I think I alluded to before,
Speaker 1: I think is a profound energy that we all hold
Speaker 1: a first Nation's pizza.
Speaker 2: That's a base, that's our foundation.
Speaker 1: Like that is we're strong people where we're seeing in people,
Speaker 1: where fighters for our community, where staunch, where we hold
Speaker 1: space not just for what we want as individuals, but
Speaker 1: for a huge community behind us. That takes a lot.
Speaker 1: Vision for me, is I really want to see black joy.
Speaker 1: I really want to see a lightness to our community
Speaker 1: in terms of.
Speaker 2: Us celebrating in the like in the shadows. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you Like for me, when I say lightness,
Speaker 1: what I mean is I know that our community has
Speaker 1: been through a lot. We hold a lot of trauma,
Speaker 1: intergenerational trauma. We also hold a lot of in quotation
Speaker 1: marks baggage from what's been done to our community. So
Speaker 1: my vision would be that there is a lightness that
Speaker 1: is in the future for our community that we can
Speaker 1: then show our black joy, our excitement instead of our
Speaker 1: death and our issues being the highlight of conversation. Yes,
Speaker 1: I want us to really be a community that is
Speaker 1: known for its love, care, culture, connection and not for
Speaker 1: the stats. The stuff course, that's right.
Speaker 2: The violence, the substance abuse, like all of those things
Speaker 2: that we struggle with, yeah, and the stereotypes. But there
Speaker 2: are other people that are struggling with similar things as well.
Speaker 2: But we are constantly put in that discourse and I
Speaker 2: agree with you, that's like fucking louder for the people
Speaker 2: in the back, honestly.
Speaker 1: And the legacy piece to this for me is really
Speaker 1: about what is it that you leave behind, even as
Speaker 1: a young person in the next generation, what is your legacy?
Speaker 1: What is it that will be left behind when you're gone?
Speaker 1: And I think that there's been where we work and
Speaker 1: breathe and stand on the shoulders of giants, there are
Speaker 1: people who have been doing the what.
Speaker 2: Does that phrase mean? Explain to people who don't know
Speaker 2: what that means there.
Speaker 1: Are people who have come before you who have done
Speaker 1: an immense amount of work, especially in my community. So
Speaker 1: I believe that there are you know, elders, our ancestors.
Speaker 1: They've had to go through a lot, they've had to
Speaker 1: triumph through so many challenges for our community, and they've
Speaker 1: done a lot of work that then we can reap
Speaker 1: the benefits of and continue. So for me, it is
Speaker 1: about taking you know, understanding that there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of great work that's been done in our community. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of foundations that are built, and it's
Speaker 1: like carrying that on so that that's not lost. But
Speaker 1: the whole legacy part is, you know, when I think
Speaker 1: about what is important for me as a blackfellow, and
Speaker 1: I say like the black joy side of things and
Speaker 1: continuing the work that people have done before me, I
Speaker 1: also think about making sure that I'm walking the walk
Speaker 1: with staying connected to culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that being grounding and yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's something that I'm looking forward to doing this
Speaker 1: year through a really great program that I'm going to
Speaker 1: be a part of that actually gets to take me
Speaker 1: home to learn language. No, so language for me would
Speaker 1: be something that if someone said to me what's your
Speaker 1: future aspirations for your connection to your community. It would
Speaker 1: be to learn my language. Yeah, and I think that
Speaker 1: that's something that I'm really excited about because to be
Speaker 1: able to have the opportunity to connect on that level
Speaker 1: and be home on country learning my language. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: like that's a legacy that I would love to leave behind.
Speaker 2: Talking about language. Actually, I just remembered a little memory
Speaker 2: of mine in that time, Yeah, talking about Natoc And
Speaker 2: I remember that at school every end, you know how
Speaker 2: you do like an end of year, and everyone would
Speaker 2: showcase like a dance or like a some type of
Speaker 2: routine like whatever. I remember like doing that, and then
Speaker 2: they would have these like specific awards, and I'd always
Speaker 2: get the Aboriginal Yeah, Like it would just be like
Speaker 2: the best. Like it was so crazy. It's very tokenistic
Speaker 2: about coming, like you just.
Speaker 1: To just reminding keep going, but I'm going to show
Speaker 1: you something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I kept every so every award you got
Speaker 2: like a little gift. And those gifts for me were
Speaker 2: actually books, And this is just like unlocked a whole
Speaker 2: memory of mine. And the books that I got were
Speaker 2: always Blackfellow books. And the first book that I got
Speaker 2: was this six seasons, the Nungar seasons, and that incorporates
Speaker 2: so much language that you know, a nong Our girl
Speaker 2: living in Yamajee, I learned most of the Yamagie slang,
Speaker 2: so like my dialect was a bit different to when
Speaker 2: I came back home to Nongan country, which is my
Speaker 2: grandmother's country. I was like talking different slang and they're like,
Speaker 2: why are you saying that. That's like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: the energy world, and I'm like, yeah, but like I
Speaker 2: grew up in Carvin, which is yeah. But this Nunga
Speaker 2: book was like the only connection that I first initially
Speaker 2: had to Noungar language. So I started learning the six seasons,
Speaker 2: and I would constantly like flip through the pages and
Speaker 2: like try to recite all of these seasons. So it's crazy,
Speaker 2: I don't remember it now, but I constantly always google
Speaker 2: which season we're in at the moment because I think,
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of like just a side note,
Speaker 2: climate change, the seasons have shifted, but the thing that
Speaker 2: hasn't changed is the Nungar seasons are off. What's like
Speaker 2: the what animals are breeding, what animals are hatching, like,
Speaker 2: and there's such a great connection to agriculture and country
Speaker 2: and land that those seasons haven't changed. It is sort
Speaker 2: of it's you know, like I can tell. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're not in like in winter yet, like we're in
Speaker 2: that in between, you know. And I go back and
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 1: Check what I learned about that. And I did an
Speaker 1: episode on Getaway in Perth in King's Park. They have
Speaker 1: an actual guide that shares that information. But I wanted to.
Speaker 2: It was she's deadly, I love.
Speaker 1: Her, but I wanted to. You said, hey, you've got awards.
Speaker 1: So my brother sent me this photo. You probably can't
Speaker 1: see it, but a certificate that says first in Subject
Speaker 1: awarded to Matt Webb, which was you know my name
Speaker 1: in year nine and I was the first in subject
Speaker 1: for Aboriginal Studies. But this was like, oh look, this
Speaker 1: wasn't at the school where I was the only black fellow,
Speaker 1: so this actually means something like I was first in
Speaker 1: Aboriginal studies school that was like mostly black follows. So
Speaker 1: I got that and I was like, oh, I used
Speaker 1: to get all.
Speaker 2: Of those, like all those awards like follow the Dream
Speaker 2: would always give me like the yeah, it's so crazy,
Speaker 2: but I think like those little moments and those all
Speaker 2: memories and those I guess those not rewards but like
Speaker 2: little boosts of confidence, Like I think they really contribute
Speaker 2: to young people, Like I feel like it gives you
Speaker 2: that like okay, like I'm succeeding and I'm doing something
Speaker 2: really well. And I think young people need to have
Speaker 2: those because absolutely, you know, regardless of them being like
Speaker 2: these tokenistic Aboriginal awards, we don't really have them anymore.
Speaker 2: I think, like I think a lot of the education
Speaker 2: system i'd say lightly has evolved a little bit more
Speaker 2: than that, But I think they were really important to
Speaker 2: my self esteem and like building me up as a
Speaker 2: as a proud Aboriginal woman, Like I was like, this
Speaker 2: is as a.
Speaker 1: OSS and I know that you when you're in high school,
Speaker 1: you did a lot of like external like courses too,
Speaker 1: like not so much course but like.
Speaker 2: Extra curriculum like studies, tottering and blah blah blah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Twice a week I went to a program at TAFE
Speaker 1: which was called the Camillary Program, And it was like
Speaker 1: where I could go with other Black followers and we
Speaker 1: would get taken out of school and we would go
Speaker 1: and make artifacts and paint and take part in culture
Speaker 1: and learn language. So I did that for like a
Speaker 1: whole year, for two days a week instead of going
Speaker 1: to school, and that program kept me in school.
Speaker 2: Oh my, another memory has unlocked. You are unlocking them,
Speaker 2: lock in the memories.
Speaker 1: Holy shit.
Speaker 2: This reminds me again being in Canarvin, we would have
Speaker 2: this after school program, but it was because we were
Speaker 2: in care and so after school we would get taken
Speaker 2: to this house which was like this kind of I
Speaker 2: think it was like a department house and we would
Speaker 2: just do activities where we would cook like feeds, like
Speaker 2: I would bake something, I'd bet cookies or cakes or
Speaker 2: like cupcakes or whatever, and we would do art project.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy. Oh my god. Anyways, that's such.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 1: I think those you know, the next generation. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: it comes to this NADOC week, I just think that
Speaker 1: these are the things that really helped me when I
Speaker 1: was a young person, connecting with culture, other black followers,
Speaker 1: having community led programs like that program was community led.
Speaker 1: There were black fellow teachers in the program. So for
Speaker 1: me that those are the hopes for our generation at
Speaker 1: the moment, because I know that there are a lot
Speaker 1: of young black fellows who are quite lost or not
Speaker 1: sure that you know what to do with their lives
Speaker 1: at that pivotal age of you know, between twelve and eighteen.
Speaker 1: It's such a tricky time in your life as a
Speaker 1: young person, but just know that, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that there if that there is hope beyond those years
Speaker 1: because like I think, when you're that age, everything seems
Speaker 1: so big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so monumental kind of feeling.
Speaker 1: You know. So yeah, connect with community, connect with community programs.
Speaker 1: I know they're still out there, so yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, as young Black fellows, being with
Speaker 1: communities one of the most important things. So when you
Speaker 1: can try and connect with local mob communities and initiatives,
Speaker 1: because it's always cool being able to create a sense
Speaker 1: of community as a young person too.
Speaker 2: How do people who aren't a part of the First
Speaker 2: Nations community sort of you know, support First Nations, people
Speaker 2: support natocwig. How can we encourage allies to, I guess
Speaker 2: show up for our community because absolutely we we we
Speaker 2: love it. Well obviously that's a given, but how do
Speaker 2: we get other people to understand that it's a great
Speaker 2: celebration for unity.
Speaker 1: It's a great week also to learn it's you know,
Speaker 1: there's so many Well, there's a few moments in the
Speaker 1: year where our communities is highlighted. And there's always the
Speaker 1: Gen twenty six conversation in the beginning of the year,
Speaker 1: and then there's you know, reck Week, Nay week uh,
Speaker 1: and then the Qurery knockout at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Like there are these sort of.
Speaker 2: Knock out again you should be playing what are you
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 1: Step Step step Gone? What do they call it? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a good video.
Speaker 2: I am the you.
Speaker 1: But what I want to say to people outside of
Speaker 1: our community who want to connect, this is a great
Speaker 1: week to you know, go to a community event. There
Speaker 1: are so many things on around the country if you
Speaker 1: can't get out and about. Also watch the Natock Awards.
Speaker 1: The Lock Awards really will bring you a sense of
Speaker 1: joy seeing our community thrive happy you see how much
Speaker 1: talent there is involved in our community. Also, the humor
Speaker 1: of our community is something that I want highlighted because
Speaker 1: I'm like, we are cracked. If you love a good laugh,
Speaker 1: a belly laugh, you know, a big, gut guttural laugh,
Speaker 1: our community is always about that. So it's like connect
Speaker 1: with us at a local Nadock event or if you don't,
Speaker 1: you know, even if you don't even have any black
Speaker 1: fellow friends, which probably a lot of you don't have
Speaker 1: any blackfellow.
Speaker 2: Friends, well you got us, that's the main.
Speaker 1: You got us. Just go along to an event.
Speaker 2: There's the euro NADOC Family Funday at Carriage Works on
Speaker 2: the tenth of July in Sydney, so all our Queensland mob.
Speaker 2: There's the NADOK Careers Expo, which is a really nice
Speaker 2: like you know, it showcases all the Aboriginal businesses what
Speaker 2: you can support, if you need, if you wait, if
Speaker 2: you're even supporting young Indigenous mob, whether your teacher, youth worker, whatever.
Speaker 2: These are the best places to go connect with community services,
Speaker 2: so they're great. That's on the sixteenth of July the
Speaker 2: Kloncarrie Shire Hall in Queensland. Then there's the Power and
Speaker 2: Water NADOC Launch at the Raintree Park in the Northern Territory.
Speaker 2: So if you're you know, if you're from the NT
Speaker 2: mob on the seventh of July, head to that. But
Speaker 2: if you also want some other information, there's the NADOC
Speaker 2: dot org dot au which has all of the Nadock
Speaker 2: information you need, whether how to support it, things happening
Speaker 2: in community.
Speaker 1: And you know what if you're yeah, if you're the
Speaker 1: intersection or you know, an ally of the queen community.
Speaker 1: There's also the twenty twenty five Queen Nadoc which is
Speaker 1: hosted at Brisbane Powerhouse in Leamington Street in New Farm
Speaker 1: and that's hosted by good friend of mine Ben Miscellaneous
Speaker 1: Benny Gratz. I love Ben, so you know that'll be
Speaker 1: a hoot. That's on the fifth of July. But then,
Speaker 1: as I said, if you can't, you know, if you
Speaker 1: can't get out and about because you're not able to
Speaker 1: do that for any reason, you can always you know,
Speaker 1: put it on a Black Fellow film you know has
Speaker 1: that's on that's on online that shows our community. Or
Speaker 1: tune into the Natock Awards or the Fire Awards also
Speaker 1: in Brisbane. So there's so much you can do. Natock
Speaker 1: Week is about two weeks away, so we encourage you to,
Speaker 1: you know, put it in the planner, think about.
Speaker 2: Literally an hour of your time, like you know, it's
Speaker 2: not that much to ask, honestly, like we we love,
Speaker 2: we would love to see you there. I feel like,
Speaker 2: especially that Queensland event, I want to go to that quick.
Speaker 1: I know, maybe maybe we should have hosted it. We
Speaker 1: should have, but look, I'm I'm actually in Brisbane the
Speaker 1: night before so I could work out.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I could be there. Let's keep noted about that.
Speaker 2: That sounds fun.
Speaker 1: But also reach out to us if you want you know,
Speaker 1: any any if you want any suggestions, reach out directly.
Speaker 1: You can find us on socials have love.
Speaker 2: I know Baker Boy just released a new song. It's
Speaker 2: deadly as well and it's got Adam Briggs in the Brigs. Briggs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: check on a First Nations artists. Put some deadly clothes on,
Speaker 2: go to an event, send us a text message.
Speaker 1: Also, you know what, put your money where your mouth.
Speaker 1: He's make a donation to a black charity or buy
Speaker 1: black actual though no, we love it.
Speaker 2: There's so many First Nations businesses that you can support,
Speaker 2: and buying black only helps elevate our community and supports it.
Speaker 2: So thank you for your ally ship. We appreciate you guys,
Speaker 2: even if you're just listening to our podcast today. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much because that shows that you love us
Speaker 2: and you support First Nations Mob. So thank you.
Speaker 1: Yes, I also loved this episode. We didn't talk about
Speaker 1: the deficit of our community.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1: Talking about that. You know, that's me, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it definitely is important to highlight and make sure that
Speaker 1: people are aware that our community. You know, there are
Speaker 1: gaps that need to be closed, but right now I'm
Speaker 1: closing my gap.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to First Nations.
Speaker 1: God, to all the First Nations people, thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you when I'm prim minifter, thank you chat,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening to First Things First.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, your mob have a great Native quick.
Speaker 1: I know it's in a couple of weeks, but get
Speaker 1: it in the planner. That's why we're doing this earlier. Yeah, alright, man, gone, gone,
Speaker 1: go on