Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to the Christy Cast.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me. We're live from the compound on
Speaker 2: this glorious day. Why is it extra glorious? Well, because
Speaker 2: I have the total ray of sunshine that is TV star,
Speaker 2: radio host, reality TV winner. I mean, what hasn't he done?
Speaker 2: He is an angel. His name is Dylan Lewis. Welcome
Speaker 2: to the Christy Cast. Dylan Lewis. We've spun up child's
Speaker 2: play and you have very graciously centers photographs. Three photographs
Speaker 2: of baby Dylan. The first one is you looking very cranky.
Speaker 2: You look like something from Sesame Street or the Muppet Show,
Speaker 2: sitting on Santa's bench.
Speaker 3: It's that's probably about look around me. I'm about two
Speaker 3: or three there, so it's mid seventies, and yes I'm benched.
Speaker 3: And although it looks like I'm a sad muppet, apparently,
Speaker 3: my mom assures me that's me being really happy. I'm
Speaker 3: just so happy. My expression fell off and I just
Speaker 3: I felt so And she does a similar thing when
Speaker 3: she gets really happy. It's like a content face, even
Speaker 3: though it looks a little bit sad and crumpy.
Speaker 2: So you get calmer the happier you get, do you.
Speaker 3: I think maybe maybe it's something to do. Wow, shall
Speaker 3: I lie on the couch? Maybe it's something to do
Speaker 3: with if I feel calm. It's a rarity and so
Speaker 3: that it indicates happiness to me.
Speaker 2: And also it's a big moment meting center.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't call him that. I call him Father Christmas.
Speaker 3: Do you want I don't. I've just never felt comfortable.
Speaker 3: I've never said sand. I don't gay sand. It feels
Speaker 3: like it's doesn't feel like it should come out of
Speaker 3: my mouth. It's like me trying to say the word
Speaker 3: as everyone else says it and shel v I can't
Speaker 3: say and choll anchovy.
Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like anchovy is a much prettier word
Speaker 2: than anchovy.
Speaker 3: Same, and that's that's the same. I can't say Santa.
Speaker 3: It's not a pretty where it sounds too much like
Speaker 3: Satan's claws.
Speaker 2: It is very close to Satan.
Speaker 3: I think we called him Palmis when we were little
Speaker 3: because we couldn't say the big word palm is promise
Speaker 3: Father Christmas. Pummies. That was close, wasn't it? As to you?
Speaker 2: There's another photograph of you here, just delicious in a
Speaker 2: green cape with a cake that you've made from mud,
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna. I don't know where this was taken,
Speaker 2: but I'm a very observant person.
Speaker 3: You're going to profile me the fence.
Speaker 1: Look at you.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm nervous because I've just said that.
Speaker 3: I'm You've picked it up? Yeah should switching? That?
Speaker 2: Is this in South Austraina?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Shut up? You just google that? Really?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Why so?
Speaker 2: When my parents separated when I was five, my dad
Speaker 2: moved to Adelaide. Never been to Adelaide before, and right
Speaker 2: from when I arrived, the first thing I noticed was
Speaker 2: the fences Adelaide. And look, I'll say broadly, South Australia
Speaker 2: have a problem with fences. The fences are unsightly and.
Speaker 3: Fence it's a galvanosed iron fence.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's wrong. And now that I've told you,
Speaker 2: you are going to see nothing but bad fences in
Speaker 2: Adelaide and I don't know why they do it.
Speaker 3: Now I'm going to school you about how to view
Speaker 3: the fences of Adelaide next time you're in Adelaide enjoying
Speaker 3: the beautiful food and wine that hafe love South.
Speaker 2: I moved to South Australia when I get old and overwork. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: It's great for that and you only do one month
Speaker 3: a year of intense partying in March and then you
Speaker 3: just chill and get ready for the next March. But
Speaker 3: next time you're there. Notice the brush fences of South Australia.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't like them.
Speaker 3: Oh they seem a little fiery.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting you mentioned the brush fence fences because
Speaker 2: the house that we were going to move into just
Speaker 2: before my parents split up and then the whole plan
Speaker 2: was off, was on Port Rush Road and I remember
Speaker 2: being driven past it going this was where your life
Speaker 2: was going to be and it had a brush fence.
Speaker 3: They're everywhere, the brush fences. The stoby poles.
Speaker 2: Stoby poles.
Speaker 3: That a funny thing which then they made pretty by
Speaker 3: getting people to paint them. And my mum did paint one.
Speaker 2: Do they wear jumpers like they do in winter in Melbourne? Here?
Speaker 2: That's the poles.
Speaker 3: They didn't really oh the poles. I didn't really get
Speaker 3: winter in South Australia.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 3: No, it's just warm. It's hot there all the time.
Speaker 3: I just had my mom, I'm we're in Melbourne. I'm
Speaker 3: and I just had my mom visit from South Australia.
Speaker 3: Over the weekend it was her birthday. We got tattoos together,
Speaker 3: did you? And every time she comes she's like, I
Speaker 3: didn't bring a jumper because I looked at the weather
Speaker 3: and I'm like, Mum, you didn't bring a jumper because
Speaker 3: you want to go shopping and buy a jumper here.
Speaker 3: Just admit that, you know, the weather in Melbourne is
Speaker 3: going to be very different from Adelaide. You need layers,
Speaker 3: You need layers, layers, layers in Melbourne, and which is
Speaker 3: great because every time you go you have four or
Speaker 3: five different fashions that you're going to present.
Speaker 2: Never heard that Adelaide is always warm.
Speaker 3: It's hot and it's that dry heat. When I was
Speaker 3: living there for a while, when I first started doing
Speaker 3: Breakfast on Nova in Adelaide on nine one nine with
Speaker 3: Hailey Pearson and Shane Low when that first started, it
Speaker 3: was a shock to my system because I was born there.
Speaker 3: I was born in Adelaide and then moved here to
Speaker 3: Melbourne when I was five when my parents split up.
Speaker 3: There is the first of the coincidences that we're probably
Speaker 3: going to notice today, of which there are men.
Speaker 2: Hang on, when's your birthday?
Speaker 3: Nineteenth February.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. I thought you said you had your
Speaker 2: mom's birthday. When's your mom's birthday?
Speaker 4: It was on Friday, November fifteen. Okay, I'm third close
Speaker 4: enough of what November.
Speaker 3: I know there's another coincidence. But it's hot and the
Speaker 3: dry heat of Adelaide. When I first moved there was
Speaker 3: I couldn't move. I didn't know what to do with myself.
Speaker 3: I'm really melbournized now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had to just lie down most of the time
Speaker 3: underneath a and any conditioner, or in the entrance to
Speaker 3: David Jones.
Speaker 2: See, I just I love the weather, right, and what
Speaker 2: I've always done. It annoys me that you can only
Speaker 2: get a seven day forecast. So how I've how I've
Speaker 2: tricked that is, I've noticed that Adelaide's weather is Melbourne's
Speaker 2: weather a couple of days before, so I actually checked
Speaker 2: the Bureau of Meteorology app in Adelaide.
Speaker 3: It's like you've discovered this, and you're the first person
Speaker 3: to discover this. This is not this is a normal thing.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it comes to us eventually. So if Adelaide
Speaker 2: is having thirty eight degrees on a Friday, I know
Speaker 2: Sunday in Melbourne it's going to be thirty eight degrees.
Speaker 3: In the morning and then pissing down in the afternoon.
Speaker 2: These photographs.
Speaker 3: Can I talk about this photograph that you think you've
Speaker 3: only know the face behind me before?
Speaker 2: I need to what tattoo did you and your mum get?
Speaker 2: I've written that down.
Speaker 3: Good question. It's there, mine's it's healing at the moment.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the jester.
Speaker 3: It's the marot. That's the thing that the jester holds.
Speaker 3: It's a little stick with the face, his own face
Speaker 3: on it, which the marot can say all the bad things.
Speaker 3: The jester doesn't get in trouble.
Speaker 2: Why didn't you put your face on that?
Speaker 3: Well? It maybe it is a bit because this is
Speaker 3: a marot. My mother is obsessed with clowns jesters, as
Speaker 3: am i. We are both strangely obsessed with this as
Speaker 3: an archetype. And she makes marots, and she used to
Speaker 3: make them for dignitaries and people who had everything who
Speaker 3: needed a gift, and the office would put together and
Speaker 3: buy a marot with the face of this judge or
Speaker 3: whoever was buying it obsess and so this was a
Speaker 3: marot that she made, and then she sketched it. She's
Speaker 3: also an artist, a drawing artist. And then this tattoo
Speaker 3: is the tattoo of the sketch of the thing that
Speaker 3: she made, the mayrot on the person that she made,
Speaker 3: which is me. I wasn't going to get the same
Speaker 3: one as her. I was going to we were just
Speaker 3: going to get tattoos on the same day. It was
Speaker 3: going to be cute, and she it was her seventy
Speaker 3: fifth and you know, I've just turned fifty one now,
Speaker 3: so it felt like nice, a nice neat moment, I
Speaker 3: was going to get another thing, and then I saw hers,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, I want to I want to
Speaker 3: get the same as you because I love you and
Speaker 3: I want to honor that, and I want I want
Speaker 3: people to ask so I can say that's because I
Speaker 3: love my mum. That's what it's about, and all the
Speaker 3: other things that jesters and marots symbolize. It's magic. It's
Speaker 3: a magical world.
Speaker 2: Your mom sounds magical.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes she is. She is a beautiful artist lady,
Speaker 3: very stylish and makes great art, including me.
Speaker 2: How does it feel to be loved by her?
Speaker 3: I just I guess that's a lovely question. Wow, Chris, See,
Speaker 3: you're good. I haven't thought of that until just then
Speaker 3: when you said that it feels well, I guess I
Speaker 3: feel safe because it's mum and it's an unwavering love.
Speaker 3: But I guess I feel lucky that that's my mum
Speaker 3: and she loves me and she made me, and because
Speaker 3: she's an amazing human being. I've got lots of amazing parents.
Speaker 3: She is one of many now, and they're all fascinating
Speaker 3: and inspiring human beings who you know, I would like
Speaker 3: to be like one day.
Speaker 2: How can you have so many parents when biologically usually
Speaker 2: works that you can just have both.
Speaker 3: Are you trying to do some science? There?
Speaker 2: Your magic? I mean you are magic.
Speaker 3: Similar to you. When the parents split up, they both
Speaker 3: got new partners and they are I consider that my
Speaker 3: stepparents my parents as well. And then there's like parents.
Speaker 3: You know, when you have your best friend and their
Speaker 3: parents become your second mom or your third mom as well.
Speaker 3: I've got them. So I consider myself lucky enough to
Speaker 3: have quite a collection of parents. Parents. Two of them
Speaker 3: are biological and the rest are parents. Right, it takes
Speaker 3: a village.
Speaker 2: When you were a kid, did you feel different from people?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean look at me, of course I felt different.
Speaker 3: But do you mean in regards to coming from a
Speaker 3: family of divorced parents or because I look odd?
Speaker 2: Actually neither, because I don't think you look.
Speaker 3: God should have seen me. Growing up. It was an
Speaker 3: ugly duckling syndrome. Was like, what the hell is that
Speaker 3: supposed to be? And then it grew into this and
Speaker 3: it was like.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, you look so cute to me.
Speaker 3: I just what is it? A little old? The pictures
Speaker 3: that you've got, you're gonna you're gonna put these out
Speaker 3: to the world.
Speaker 2: Are you look at that beautiful boy with a little box?
Speaker 3: I know it. Those pictures. I chose them because they
Speaker 3: actually remind me of my son who's eleven, and his
Speaker 3: squishy face and squishy lips, and that's that was me.
Speaker 3: But I think I was in my I was a
Speaker 3: bit in my own world. And you know, later in
Speaker 3: life perhaps this has been explained, But then my world
Speaker 3: was just a little world where music happened and dress
Speaker 3: ups happened and clowning happened, and I just sort of
Speaker 3: made my world how I wanted it to be, and
Speaker 3: that was fine. My parents encouraged that. And so the
Speaker 3: picture of you, where which you thought I was holding
Speaker 3: a cake. It's not a cake, Cussy. Can't you tell?
Speaker 3: That is my car? I made a car. What I'm
Speaker 3: holding is steering and it's it's got to You've got.
Speaker 2: The life in your nether regions.
Speaker 3: You are, that's my car. I'm not sure I've got
Speaker 3: a cape on. Perhaps it's a supercar. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Back to the question that you asked that we've moved
Speaker 2: on too quickly from where I said, did you feel different?
Speaker 2: And you said because I looked different? Or because my
Speaker 2: parents were separated? And I said neither. I suppose what
Speaker 2: I meant was, did you feel like your your brain
Speaker 2: was wired differently to other people's? And when you talk
Speaker 2: about dressing up and magic and music, I imagine that
Speaker 2: that started from birth and you know, in the haven
Speaker 2: of your home, and then when you went out into
Speaker 2: the real world into school and uniforms and no hair
Speaker 2: past the ears, did you start to go? Oh, okay, do.
Speaker 3: You know what, Christy? I wish that it was as
Speaker 3: simple as a little awakening like that. Is this a
Speaker 3: place where I be honest?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it high?
Speaker 2: Rack can really okay? Honesty? Will see your free honesty?
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm still getting used to the honesty that
Speaker 3: I'm about to have a go at because it's really
Speaker 3: new to me and so recently diagnosed ADHD at the
Speaker 3: age of fifty one. This is in the last few months, Chrissy,
Speaker 3: And prior to that, I've always thought, Okay, the world
Speaker 3: seems a bit hard to fit into, and maybe that's
Speaker 3: why I created those bubbles. I had no inkling that
Speaker 3: maybe my brain was wired differently. I just thought that
Speaker 3: I didn't fit in the world, and so I made
Speaker 3: that world where I did fit, you know, And that's
Speaker 3: what you're very amazingly picked up on. So now I'm
Speaker 3: in the strange place of looking back at my entire
Speaker 3: life and going, oh, like, even just then, what you
Speaker 3: just did then was an ol moment for me. And
Speaker 3: that's happening every few minutes. It's every time I look
Speaker 3: back on anything that's happened, you know, in the career,
Speaker 3: at school, friends, weird crushes I had on girls for
Speaker 3: four years, which now in retrospect seems creepy. But I
Speaker 3: was just really focused on having a crush, you know,
Speaker 3: all those kinds of things. All that will makes sense.
Speaker 2: That was probably enough. The crush was enough.
Speaker 3: Well, it would have been nice to you know, maybe
Speaker 3: would hold hands with her one day. And that never happened,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 2: Think that that would have been a disappointing outcome, and
Speaker 2: I wanted to I want to ask you. I feel
Speaker 2: like I understand you. And the minute that I, you know,
Speaker 2: saw you on Recovery, we weren't friends, you know, I
Speaker 2: was just a viewer. But the minute you came into
Speaker 2: my consciousness, I don't know, I just instantly was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I get this guy. This guy's a bit like me.
Speaker 2: And then we met and you know, I was.
Speaker 3: Right, we are. And when we said jokingly that there
Speaker 3: are lots of similarities, that's not a joke. There are
Speaker 3: there are a lot of similarities. And I find that
Speaker 3: whenever I see the things that you're doing. I mean,
Speaker 3: what reality TV shows have you beeen on?
Speaker 2: Well, this is I want to bring this up because
Speaker 2: you were on Celebrity Big Brother in two thousand and two, correct,
Speaker 2: and you were on I'm a celebrity, Get me out
Speaker 2: of here.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what year, but twenty years later, twenty
Speaker 4: years later, I only do them. Maybe twenty years now.
Speaker 2: When you won both of those, I thought everyone's watching
Speaker 2: this thinking, oh, it's just a stupid show whatever, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But what did it mean to you to
Speaker 2: get that obvious, irrefutable approval from society that you were
Speaker 2: accepted slash the best?
Speaker 3: You're asking all the hard questions, oh am, I yeah, No,
Speaker 3: they're really good ones that I need to start probably
Speaker 3: thinking about it, because I don't do anything for that recognition.
Speaker 3: I just find myself in places. Even all my jobs,
Speaker 3: I wasn't seeking them. I wasn't searching for them. They
Speaker 3: sort of just happened. Recovery of the music show I
Speaker 3: was working on. I didn't mean that. I didn't study journalism.
Speaker 3: I studied teaching. You know, I love music and another one.
Speaker 3: How many are we up to? Ten? Many? So many?
Speaker 3: So I don't go out there doing it to get approval,
Speaker 3: and it's you know, it's I guess it's a nice
Speaker 3: thing for people to go, oh, I love what you do.
Speaker 3: But in my head and you know, even doing I'm
Speaker 3: a celebrity in twenty twenty two, I didn't know what
Speaker 3: was going on with my head. I just thought, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll just keep doing what I've been doing for the
Speaker 3: last fifty years and trying to have fun and trying
Speaker 3: to fit in and trying to make people happy, and
Speaker 3: maybe there's a bit of people pleasing going on. But
Speaker 3: I hardly even see the nice comments, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I just they're important that the person has
Speaker 3: said the nice comment, important to the person who said it.
Speaker 3: I see the comment, and I think that's a beautiful thing, good,
Speaker 3: that's a positive thing. But I don't go cool. They
Speaker 3: think I'm cool. I don't think that what I do
Speaker 3: see is the negative comment. And it might be one
Speaker 3: in three hundred and I'll see that and I'll think
Speaker 3: about that for days, and you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: work on this stuff. It's only now that I'm realizing
Speaker 3: maybe why these reactions happen and have always happened, and
Speaker 3: I've just sort of dealt with them quietly, as quietly
Speaker 3: as I can in my own private life, you know.
Speaker 2: But do you think that those negative comments stick in
Speaker 2: your crawl because you know they're not true and you
Speaker 2: want to help that person understand. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I hate injustice. It I don't understand how anything can
Speaker 3: be unjust. I don't understand it. And so if it
Speaker 3: happens to me, and I've spent my whole life trying
Speaker 3: to make everyone feel comfortable. That's what I try and do,
Speaker 3: and it's probably problematic sometimes because I won't do I
Speaker 3: won't let me. I'll be last on the list, you know,
Speaker 3: just trying to nail my own hand onto the cross
Speaker 3: and it's impossible.
Speaker 2: But that I don't, that doesn't I'm exactly the same.
Speaker 2: I'm not being Martyry and I'm saying I'm not suffering.
Speaker 2: This is that that comes very naturally and it feels
Speaker 2: good to me.
Speaker 3: I want people to feel comfortable. I want that. I
Speaker 3: just want people to not feel anxiety. I want and
Speaker 3: maybe that stems from I know what it feels like
Speaker 3: to feel that discomfort. So I don't want anyone to
Speaker 3: do that. And so that translates Chrissy into into all
Speaker 3: the jobs and it's like, oh, there were signs, didn't
Speaker 3: there were signs? And so you know, doing something like
Speaker 3: a music show or recovery or you know, or radio shows,
Speaker 3: you know, doing Double Jay at the moment, doing nov
Speaker 3: back in the day, all of these jobs require that
Speaker 3: I do it all properly. I make sure that everyone's happy.
Speaker 3: I make sure that if I'm interviewing someone, they're happy,
Speaker 3: their record company is happy, the fans are happy, do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Make sure everyone's happy, and
Speaker 3: then the beautiful magic happens when the people move the
Speaker 3: mask away, and when the people feel comfortable you they're comfortable,
Speaker 3: and then the people who are listening or watching or
Speaker 3: relating to it or whatever, they go, oh, I'm connected
Speaker 3: because it's a real moment instead of all of the blockades,
Speaker 3: you know, and so unconsciously and feverishly, feverishly, I've been
Speaker 3: doing that my whole life, but now I'm sort of
Speaker 3: starting to know why. But now it doesn't have to be.
Speaker 3: It's been a big transition year this year, trying to
Speaker 3: work it all out and trying you out, fucking meds
Speaker 3: for the first time, what the hell, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to get that right, and feeling okay, well, this is
Speaker 3: a this is a transition stage. But I feel like
Speaker 3: the future can be right. We're not there yet. I'm
Speaker 3: not there yet, yeah, you know, but my kids are
Speaker 3: going to be a step closer than what I was.
Speaker 3: They're going to at least they talk about they know
Speaker 3: about me.
Speaker 2: But they've benefited enormously from being your children because of
Speaker 2: how well you have had to learn about yourself to
Speaker 2: survive the world. I think, and the comfort thing is
Speaker 2: important and some people can do it. It's like a superpower.
Speaker 2: And to give comfort well is really like, it brings
Speaker 2: me so much happiness. People pleasing. It's a buzzword at
Speaker 2: the moment, and as soon as I saw it, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's me, And then I realized, oh, they're saying it's
Speaker 2: a negative thing.
Speaker 3: See, there's so many of these words that are too weighted.
Speaker 3: And I'm looking forward to the next bit and it
Speaker 3: should happen soon where we can change some of these
Speaker 3: words and get ownership of words that have been turned
Speaker 3: into bad words.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see how people please pleasing people.
Speaker 3: That negative How I can't see it unless it's negative
Speaker 3: because you do it at the detriment of yourself. So
Speaker 3: it's about it. There's a balance there. But I don't
Speaker 3: understand why the word woke has become horrible word that
Speaker 3: describes horrible people. No, no, no, no, we were just
Speaker 3: trying to be awake and not asleep anymore and move
Speaker 3: and evolve humanity. What what I don't like the word
Speaker 3: the letters ADHD. That doesn't describe me no disorders and deficits,
Speaker 3: nor do I have a superpower I just have a
Speaker 3: different kind of brain that makes me run hot, that
Speaker 3: gives me this super powerful, amazing energy, but it's also
Speaker 3: got a lot of hard bits that you know, these
Speaker 3: are the bits that I've had shame about and I'm
Speaker 3: embarrassed about, and I still won't talk about, not now,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe not ever. But the process of moving forward,
Speaker 3: I think it's leading to a place where I can
Speaker 3: be a better version of me and I can talk
Speaker 3: to my children about them having the best shot in
Speaker 3: life with the world around them now, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to improve some parts of the world. There are other
Speaker 3: parts that are very odd right now. But at least
Speaker 3: I will control the bits that I can, and that's
Speaker 3: you know, my family and me.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about your family and your kids
Speaker 2: and your wife, Holly. It's very clear and unequivocal that
Speaker 2: you love her.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: And I've been thinking a lot about love recently, and
Speaker 2: like whether or not at exists as a standalone universal
Speaker 2: feeling or yeah, come on, or more whether it is
Speaker 2: you know, like a fingerprint. It's really bespoken individual to
Speaker 2: every human being. It's a unique thing. And if you could,
Speaker 2: let's say that we strike love out of the dictionary,
Speaker 2: what synonym? What are other adjective would you put in
Speaker 2: its place.
Speaker 3: With horny? I think horny? What the well?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Sometimes no, please don't take that as my one answer.
Speaker 2: You know, I love that because I love that because
Speaker 2: I don't like to be told by somebody. It's not
Speaker 2: that I don't like. It makes me feel misunderstood and like,
Speaker 2: oh I can't. I shouldn't feel that that there's you know,
Speaker 2: a thing where people go, oh, you know, it's not
Speaker 2: about the sex. To me, it has to be about
Speaker 2: the sex a little bit, yeah, because that's the one
Speaker 2: thing that you do with that one person. So it
Speaker 2: has to mean something.
Speaker 3: I think so, And you know, I may have sounded
Speaker 3: a little frivolous, but that's it is important that I
Speaker 3: find my wife incredibly sexy and beautiful and have always
Speaker 3: felt that way and feel like she's getting hotter, and
Speaker 3: and that sounds trivial and shallow, but like you say,
Speaker 3: it's it's part of the equation. There are some languages
Speaker 3: that have many words for love, yes, to describe maybe
Speaker 3: various kinds of love. I love ice cream, but I
Speaker 3: love my wife. I love yeah, you know, driving, but
Speaker 3: I love my children. How can they They can't all
Speaker 3: be the same amount. They come into saying quantifiable love. No,
Speaker 3: do you know? Because this is a thing I've been
Speaker 3: thinking about since I was very small. What's Love?
Speaker 2: I talk into the show had Away.
Speaker 3: Come on? I decided long ago never to work in
Speaker 3: that love needs to be on the periodic table. I
Speaker 3: decided this as a scientist. I'm not a scientist, as
Speaker 3: a as a observer of life. I decided that if
Speaker 3: we could just prove its existence by calling it an element,
Speaker 3: putting it on the periodic table, then we can start
Speaker 3: to take it seriously. Because forever it's been their word
Speaker 3: that poets use and musicians use, an artist's paint, and
Speaker 3: it's the thing you say when you're getting married, and
Speaker 3: you say it to your children, and it's a feeling.
Speaker 3: But I think I think it's measurable. I think it's quantifiable.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's a thing. And religions are into
Speaker 3: the idea. I'm not necessarily a particular religious person, not
Speaker 3: particularly religious, but I'm quite spiritual, so I think that
Speaker 3: they're they're all onto it. They all know that God
Speaker 3: is love. Love is an energy. God is an energy.
Speaker 3: God is a thing that binds the universe together. God
Speaker 3: is the reason that things want to live and things
Speaker 3: want to grow. That's why plants grow. Love it's an
Speaker 3: energy that is the reason that life continues. And and
Speaker 3: and I just I'm looking forward to the day when
Speaker 3: some scientists can photograph it and go up there, you go,
Speaker 3: it's real. We can all get on with it now.
Speaker 3: Now we know it's real, we don't have to pretend
Speaker 3: that it might not be real. We can get it's real.
Speaker 3: Let's go. It's on there. It's next ostgen. It's like grillium.
Speaker 2: It's like ghosts.
Speaker 3: Though well, yeah you can't see it, but some of
Speaker 3: us have felt it. Yes, but I want proof. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: can't they photograph ghosts. The problem with ghosts is and
Speaker 3: Ghostbusters they have. That's that documentary. Have you seen Ghostbusters
Speaker 3: the documentary? There's ghosts in that. There's a big puff
Speaker 3: Stay Puff does a marshmallow ghost.
Speaker 2: He's my favorite.
Speaker 3: You love a bit of stay puffed.
Speaker 2: I love it when he gets angry too.
Speaker 3: I used to play Ghostbusters on the Commodore sixty four
Speaker 3: and it would it would take forty five minutes to load.
Speaker 2: And do you know what do you remember the cassette.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's why it took forty five minutes, because you'd
Speaker 3: have to stop at rewinded a bit and keep loose.
Speaker 2: You must have been a very lucky kid because I
Speaker 2: only got the standard issue games with my Comodore sixty four.
Speaker 2: Do you remember Toothpaste Invaders? No, that was the standard game. No,
Speaker 2: then you just had to clean teeth.
Speaker 3: Oh that sounds funn so exciting. It's educational the kids.
Speaker 3: I didn't have a Commodore sixty four. My friends had one,
Speaker 3: Andrew and Craig and I would go over to their
Speaker 3: house and play on their Comodol sixty four and then
Speaker 3: and they got a rude game, A rude game on
Speaker 3: the what Yes, space tits.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I did involve boobies, Yes.
Speaker 3: And it was. You're in space and these tits come
Speaker 3: toward you, just with very bad animation, and they get
Speaker 3: bigger and you have to go on to them and
Speaker 3: go and get them.
Speaker 2: That's it, you suck them in.
Speaker 3: Yep? How good is that? A bit eatable?
Speaker 2: Also, I reckon busy are one of the top ten
Speaker 2: things in the world in life.
Speaker 3: My lad to agree with you. I love busies.
Speaker 2: I love busies. I'm so Sometimes I just look at
Speaker 2: them in the mirror and I go, they're just there,
Speaker 2: and I too, I get to enjoy them every single day.
Speaker 3: Me too.
Speaker 2: But it's and they're so they're so versatile. I don't say,
Speaker 2: I look at they're a pantry. They're sexy, do you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? They're just they're fabulous.
Speaker 3: What a mine for them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never known. I've never known what some.
Speaker 3: Men like when required, what we're like a spare part.
Speaker 3: I think I think I've heard of somewhere. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: an island where there was a lack of lactating women
Speaker 3: and so the men started to get some man milk. Wow,
Speaker 3: am I I'm not sure if I'm making that. I
Speaker 3: feel like I've Luckily there's people who would fact check.
Speaker 2: These isn't that is added to the list. I feel
Speaker 2: like I say to my kids, because you know, there's
Speaker 2: this big kind of I think it's a you know,
Speaker 2: it's a lie that we've been told that the good
Speaker 2: old day is better than the now. And I say
Speaker 2: to them, this is a great time to be alive.
Speaker 2: With a brain like yours and a brain like mine.
Speaker 2: Google has changed my life. I'll google man milk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to be careful that when I grew
Speaker 3: When I.
Speaker 2: Grew up, what the fuck was there? There was a
Speaker 2: set of world books that my dad paid off for
Speaker 2: five years. By the time he paid it off, all
Speaker 2: the information was outdated.
Speaker 3: Funny. How funny were encyclopedias? Yes, Encyclopedia Britannica mean that
Speaker 3: someone would come to your door and gold you like
Speaker 3: to buy and you go, we just bought one last
Speaker 3: year's like yeah, but there's some new additions, that's right.
Speaker 3: We've got new words in there, like skibbity.
Speaker 2: Oh do your kids love skibbity?
Speaker 3: I don't know if love is the right word, but
Speaker 3: I'm trying to learn the language so I can embarrass
Speaker 3: some more. Skibbty ohioz is something I d the rizzler
Speaker 3: the man You're so you're like level three. I'm still
Speaker 3: on level one.
Speaker 2: I had the best laugh of the month with my
Speaker 2: middle son Kit.
Speaker 3: Chris is love of the month, ha ha, And isn't
Speaker 3: it great.
Speaker 2: Being a parent?
Speaker 3: I want to move on.
Speaker 2: I want to move on to that in a second,
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you about my laugh of the month.
Speaker 2: We were in the car I was driving my daughter,
Speaker 2: who's eleven, was in the passenger seat, and Kit, my
Speaker 2: thirteen year old, was in the back, and they're all
Speaker 2: magic in their own way, right, And I was talking
Speaker 2: to Peg brought up a story about I can't even
Speaker 2: remember what it was, but it was clearly an urban myth.
Speaker 2: And I said, oh, I've heard that before. It's an
Speaker 2: urban myth. And then, of course, what is an urban myth?
Speaker 2: And I explained the concept of the urban myth and
Speaker 2: that was it. And then just from the back I
Speaker 2: hear Kit go skibbitty myth.
Speaker 3: Beautiful And then we locked.
Speaker 2: Eyes in the revision mirror and wait, I was barely laughing.
Speaker 2: And I can't explain why, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was the funny, funniest moment of the month.
Speaker 3: That's the best of it. I learnt one last night, Chrissy,
Speaker 3: you could try out with the kids and see for
Speaker 3: how it goes. It's when you've got like a message
Speaker 3: that can appeal to anyone listening, you go chat.
Speaker 2: Okay, put it in context. I knew you would say that, no,
Speaker 2: because I feel like I've heard that that's chat chat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you say chat okay. I can't remember how to
Speaker 3: put it in what about this saying I'm going to
Speaker 3: sound like an old person.
Speaker 2: What water is? Water is essential? Is that chat?
Speaker 3: I think you do it like this, you go chat
Speaker 3: water is essential, so that it's like a group chat
Speaker 3: like a water.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: Please don't quote me on that until you do further research.
Speaker 3: But I believe that that could be probably the context
Speaker 3: you do it.
Speaker 2: In chat because I've started family meeting and I prepare
Speaker 2: an agenda for dinner, and if there's just something that
Speaker 2: comes up, like I thought, oh, you know, I know
Speaker 2: everything there is to know about protein. I don't reckon
Speaker 2: my kids, do. I think that's important protein. So then
Speaker 2: I'll prepare like a little one, you know, and then
Speaker 2: we talk about it as yeah, presentation, Ted talks sort
Speaker 2: of deal. But I'm going to say chat. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go chat protein, have a go.
Speaker 3: Yes, and please don't blame me. Uncle Dylan's felt.
Speaker 2: You became a parent for the first time, all right,
Speaker 2: I think the same time as I did.
Speaker 3: Yes, turned sixteen, Roses.
Speaker 2: Sixteen, Leo's about to turn sixteen.
Speaker 3: So yes, I thought we were aligned to another coincidence.
Speaker 2: What what is? And we'll have to finish on this
Speaker 2: even though we could talk forever.
Speaker 3: Damn what I know? Okay, yes, talk fast.
Speaker 2: When you were becoming a parent or thinking about parenting
Speaker 2: before you'd had the baby, what is the biggest surprise
Speaker 2: that you have come to know since actually becoming someone's dad?
Speaker 3: Oh? The biggest surprise? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What what is the element that is not what
Speaker 2: you expected?
Speaker 3: I feel like becoming a dad was the reason that
Speaker 3: I was put on this earth, you know. I feel
Speaker 3: like when I realized, ah, are we doing this? It
Speaker 3: was like all the training I've been doing my whole life,
Speaker 3: all of the stupid tricks that I've learned, the comfort,
Speaker 3: the juggling, Hi, I've got I do all these things,
Speaker 3: all the clowning things that I do, and all of
Speaker 3: the strange talents that I've half learned. So I can
Speaker 3: do millions of things, but none of them will. All
Speaker 3: the instruments I can play, all of the entertaining that
Speaker 3: I do for fun, all of that came into play.
Speaker 3: Being able to read stories beautifully.
Speaker 2: This was my time, My time, time to shine.
Speaker 3: Influencing small people to have good music taste. This is
Speaker 3: my time, And so I kind of I went into
Speaker 3: it a little maybe even cocky, just like mm hmm,
Speaker 3: I got this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And maybe the surprise, Chrissy has been the depth of
Speaker 3: my love. It's not just this is not a thing
Speaker 3: about me. It's not about the things that I can
Speaker 3: show my kids or teach my kids, or entertain my
Speaker 3: kids about, or even in part well a wealth of
Speaker 3: knowledge about because I'm learning probably more from them than
Speaker 3: they're learning from me. I think it's the surprise is
Speaker 3: how deep my love is. And I get emotional just
Speaker 3: thinking about their faces. I get emotional looking at them
Speaker 3: as I'm creeping out in the morning, trying not to
Speaker 3: wake them up, you know, and and hearing them speak
Speaker 3: and watching them grow. It's been the greatest gift that
Speaker 3: I've ever been blessed with, thanks to my wife for
Speaker 3: birthing them. And I love it. I don't want it.
Speaker 3: I don't want them to be anyone else's kid, and
Speaker 3: I don't want any other kids. Don't want them.
Speaker 2: That's what I say to them. I say to them sometimes.
Speaker 2: Even yesterday I sent a text message to Kit again
Speaker 2: I seem to be talking about Kit. I love them
Speaker 2: all the same and differently, and that's that's been a
Speaker 2: great joy for me. I just said to him I
Speaker 2: just can't believe how lucky I am that I get
Speaker 2: to see you every day. And I'm sure that everybody
Speaker 2: that meets you would love that, would just look at
Speaker 2: you and hear you say something and go, I wonder
Speaker 2: what he's doing tomorrow and the next day. And I
Speaker 2: don't have to wonder that because I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Know that's me exactly. You've nowed it. I feel lucky
Speaker 3: and I'm like, and sometimes I try to explain to them,
Speaker 3: like if I was at school now, I reckon, you
Speaker 3: would be my friend, Yes, why you know? And I
Speaker 3: think I would love my daughter to be my friend
Speaker 3: at school. She would. She's the kindest, best person we know,
Speaker 3: and you know, just seeing her grow and thrive, and
Speaker 3: you know, she's sixteen now, she's got a boyfriend and
Speaker 3: she's singing and she's just stunning and funny and just
Speaker 3: every day I feel a blessed to be near her,
Speaker 3: little leon, to be you know, the person who made
Speaker 3: half of her. And the same with my beautiful boy jets,
Speaker 3: my children. Yeah, everything pretty. And you know, I know
Speaker 3: I can see in your eyes right now that this
Speaker 3: is real talk. You know, this is this is facts.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I think the greatest thing that I learned and wasn't
Speaker 2: expecting was and I will get emotional about it, because
Speaker 2: you know, I've been an odd person my whole life,
Speaker 2: and I found it so comforting to, you know, live
Speaker 2: with people that I can really show myself too, and they.
Speaker 1: Really like me. It's really nice.
Speaker 3: They do sweet they do. It's really they are lucky children.
Speaker 3: You know, you're an amazing woman. They know that, and
Speaker 3: they get to be with you every day as well.
Speaker 3: That's the rad part of this deal, Isn't.
Speaker 2: It so lucky? It is a totally rad part of
Speaker 2: the deal.
Speaker 3: Word, what do I do? Now? You're across the desk.
Speaker 3: The alarm's gone off. That's the hug alarm.
Speaker 2: It's the hug alarm.
Speaker 1: Let's hug. Thank you for coming in. Dylan Lewis.
Speaker 2: All right, So if that didn't warm your soul, you
Speaker 2: probably don't have one. I would check Dylan Lewis. Go
Speaker 2: check him out, listen to his beautiful brain on double
Speaker 2: JS man check.
Speaker 1: And that's it for another week at the Christy Cast.
Speaker 2: It's time to go and gather my feelings and kiss
Speaker 2: my kids all over their delicious little faces. Hey also,
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