1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm my boris and this is strike talk. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Talk for strike talk with mock ball. You got either 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: rumble and he's got this magnificent voice. And they put 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: his name on the screen and said Michael Buffer. I'm 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: like what And I told him what I'm telling you 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: about how people are stopping me? Who is this guy? 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: And I got this, I think that might beer brother? Well, 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: your dad, what are you talking about? I have a brother. 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: I get a rich hand to my throat. I don't 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: even crank. Why the F did you get me? And 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: he looked at me and he said, what are you 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: going to do with that? And I just went pop 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: pop and we just start going at it. Doors closed 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: and there's like ten floors going down, and Dana's like 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: up against the wall like this, and security guys like this. 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: And it was on my dad. I didn't tell anybody 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: who he's talking. He goes, He goes. Dana's telling everybody everybody. 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: If you can have a diamond in your hand, and 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna have a piece of coal. And it all 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: comes down to marketing. No matter how great the product, 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: if you don't market that diamond correctly, nobody's gonna buy it. 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: The cut man comes up to me. Did you hear that? 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Man? 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: I go hear what he goes. The entire audience just 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: said it's time with you. And these are Portuguese speaking people, 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, it's working on. 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: Hi guys. 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: So who's got in the UFA on Sunday. Yeah, it's 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: gonna be huge, huge, It's great for Sydney. 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, Thank you, Mark, pleasure to meet you. 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: Same here. How many times you've been to us or 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: to Sydney more important. 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: Sydney, I think it's probably four or five times Australia 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: probably close to ten. And I have to add one comment. 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: I go to many cities all over the world. I 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: love Sydney. This is one of the greatest Sydneys in 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: the world. There's no question. Melbourne reminds me of New York. 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: I've been to Perth, you know, in other places, but 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: I just love the country. The people are fantastic and 40 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: I can't say enough about your country. I really can't. 41 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: And what have you been doing? How long you've been Syney? 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Now? 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: How long is it like for this trip? When did 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: you arrive? When I got here Wednesday morning and yesterday 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: I filmed a national Australian commercial for a company. I 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: can't talk about it, but it'll be out in about 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: a month. Awesome, you look unbelievable. 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: Look how da this is? 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: Dude? 50 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: Seriously? They had in the brief, thank you what a 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: dress up? 52 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: And I actually, and I've been doing podcasts myself that 53 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: normally I just wrote two shit and hair of jeans 54 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: and blah blah. So but I actually one of the 55 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: reasons I was slightly late coming in is because they 56 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: had to race back to my office quick thanks, shower 57 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: and get changed. 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: And I put at least put a bit of. 59 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Trousers on, knowing that I know you're going to be 60 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: dressed up looking to look magnificently. 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Seriously, thank you. 62 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: Now you're sixty seven years of age. 63 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: Sixty seven. I turned me twenty first. 64 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah you're on June twenty first, so and the sixty 65 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: seven is of age. You look awesome. What's your secret? 66 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: You know? Eat rate, train rate, be right, keep stress 67 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: to an absolute minimum. I don't put anything in my body, 68 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, the steroids and all that kind of stuff. 69 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: I don't do anything. I just keep it natural. I 70 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: try to get everything from my food, get plenty of 71 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: sleep and which is not always easy for me to do, 72 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: and stress is not always to keep low, but just 73 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: do the best I can. 74 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: Because I asked Dinah the same question, and Diana actually 75 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: has this way actually because he did a thing with 76 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: Gary Brooks Gary Breker. Yeah, and Dinah said he Swizz said, 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: Gary Broke has changed his life. 78 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: Well, he did because Gary Breker told him he was 79 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: going to be dead in eleven years, ten or eleven years. 80 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: He actually take has this test. He can pinpoint within 81 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: a very close period of time when you're gonna die. 82 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: And Dana didn't believe it at first, but then he 83 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: believed it. And I got to say, the transition that 84 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: Dana has gone through with Gary Breker is nothing short 85 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: of amazing. He's no, it's it's incredible what he's gone 86 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: through and the stress and the amount of effort and 87 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: time and energy he puts into his job running everything 88 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: from UFC to power Slap to all the other things 89 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: that involved with I mean, Dana's a maverick. He's just 90 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: a non stop machine, There's no question. And one of 91 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: the other things I want to tell you too, is 92 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: that laughter is very important in life. You want to 93 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: laugh as much as you can, and hopefully you're surrounded 94 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: by people that love you and share that laughter with you, 95 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: and the people you surround yourself with can also have 96 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: an effect on your aging. And I'm also got Italian heritage, 97 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: so I got some good oils going through my skin. 98 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Can I go back to when you were a little kid? 99 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: So where were you born in the US? 100 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: I was born in Tulsa, Oklahoma. My dad told me 101 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: that I was conceived in Las Vegas, dropped off in Tulsa. 102 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: We were there for nine months, and we moved to Dallas, 103 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: Texas for a few years, and Philadelphia is my hometown. 104 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: They declared my hometown. We were there the rest of 105 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: the time, and at fifteen, I moved to Malibu, California, 106 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: and everybody that I had to be rich and live 107 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: in Malibu, which is not true. Back then, we were 108 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: middle class. My dad worked for Fortune five hundred companies 109 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: and was an entrepreneur in his own right, where I 110 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: got my entrepreneurial spirit the teachings from. And we went 111 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: to Malibu. We went. He was running a company out there. 112 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: He quit it within a year to become a writer. 113 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: He was an accomplished book writer and screenwriter and he 114 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: wanted to follow that path, and we wound up going 115 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: broke as a family two or three times when I 116 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: was younger and together as a family unit, we got 117 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: together and we would go and trade collectibles at antique 118 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: gun shows and we would trade back and forth, and 119 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: my dad created a big living out of this. And 120 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: I was haken a schmarket and selling stuff at twelve 121 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: years old across tables where there were pistols, artifacts, whatever, 122 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: and it really built my entrepreneurial spirit. The life back then. 123 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: That's really important. 124 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: Things like how important is it for a young man 125 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: a young woman to be exposed to front accounter like 126 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: you know, like you go through. 127 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: School and you'll. 128 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: Protect you live in his instruction environments and you know, 129 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: they give your textbook and that's you could learn, that's 130 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: we could to submit and then you got through exams 131 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: the end of the year. 132 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: Then you on a holiday blabbah. 133 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: But we very rarely get taught how to address people, 134 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: how to talk to people, how to engage with people, 135 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: how to stand at a counter and do let's call 136 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: a customer service, but all the relationship stuff that goes 137 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: with it. I mean, you know, people might know you 138 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: as an announcement he's actually an entrepreneur, and I'm going 139 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: to talk about that he's entrepreneurial life in a moment. 140 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: But I do want to ask you as an important 141 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: point as in terms of training for anybody, how important 142 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: is it to be behind the counter and have to 143 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: deal with people. 144 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: It's very important. A lot of talent they're good in 145 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: front of the camera, but behind the camera is difficult 146 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: for them. With the teachings I learned in life at 147 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: an early age and again from my dad. And I 148 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: want to preface by saying, when I would walk into 149 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: a room when I was a kid, I go Hi, Dad, 150 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: go sun, project your voice, shoulders, back, chest out, let 151 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: him know you're in the room. My dad was a 152 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: marine for thirteen years, serve in World War Two in Korea, 153 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: and was a drill instructor, so I grew up with 154 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: that whole. He was teaching me how to fight at 155 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: five years old before I even went to school, knowing 156 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: I was going to get in the fight in Philadelphia 157 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: when I went to school, but he taught me a 158 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: lot about that and in front of the camera. I 159 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: love being in front of the camera, but I managed 160 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: my brother, the great Michael Buffer, the legendary Michael Buffer. 161 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: Let's get ready to run. Well, I've managed his career 162 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: for over thirty years, and before I even got into announcing, 163 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: which we'll discuss in the UFC, I was cutting deals 164 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: and acting as a manager, and I don't have a 165 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: part of me if there's any agents in the room. 166 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of agents, but I am 167 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: a fan of managers. They get the work done. And 168 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: I approach everything I do with a very passionate approach, 169 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: because if you can find what you love in life 170 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: and you're passionate about you can monetize it and you 171 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: get to earn money from that, then you're living a lifestyle. 172 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: You're not just going to work. And that's one of 173 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: the greatest blessings you can have as an entrepreneur. And 174 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: I realize that, and I applied those same principles to 175 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: my management of him, to myself, to when I meet people. 176 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: I mean, what's the biggest thing that people wanted to 177 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: you should do as a human being when you walk 178 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: in a room is look the person in the eye right, 179 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: not down at the ground I left them right. Let 180 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: them know you're in the room, let them know you 181 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: want to talk to them, ask for the sale, close 182 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: the deal. You know, people are sometimes really good at 183 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: opening the door, but they don't know how to close it. 184 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: There's a difference, big difference. It's a huge difference. And 185 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: if I could just get back the story as I 186 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: understand is that you didn't now. 187 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: Your brother was your brother? 188 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Nope? 189 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: And can you just elaborate on a little bit. 190 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: I'll give you the short version, yeap, otherwise we'll be 191 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: here for another twenty minutes, but on the story alone, 192 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: very quickly. Back in the U, I would say the 193 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: mid eighties to late eighties, Mike Tyson became very popular 194 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: in boxing, and he brought boxing back to the forefront 195 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 2: where it became the water It was the water cooler 196 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: conversation on a Monday, the way the UFC is today 197 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: for the five fans, and boxing for big fights too. 198 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I love boxing, by the way. Believe me, 199 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: I love boxing. When that was happening. My dad, even 200 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 2: out of the womb, had me watching boxing because my 201 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: dad was a boxer. My grandfather was champion of the 202 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: world in boxing in nineteen twenty one name was Johnny 203 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: Buffy was the Flyway phantom weight champion and it's in 204 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 2: our blood. So I was always watching boxing Tuesday night fights, 205 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday, Wide World of Sports all that. 206 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, this man came out and you 207 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: never really paid that much attention to the ring announcer. 208 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: But this very handsome debonair, exquisitely dressed individual came out 209 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: and he's like, let's get ready to rumble, and he's 210 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: got this magnificent voice. And they put his name on 211 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: the screen and said Michael Buffer. And I'm like, what now. 212 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: I own tele marketing companies in my twenties and my thirties, 213 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: and that's how I cut my teeth in business at eighteen. 214 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: Right into college, I wanted to tell the marketing, which 215 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: taught me a lot too. That's a whole nother story. 216 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: I sold good products, sold off supplies. I didn't cheap 217 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: people like the Wolf of Wall Street. I did very 218 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: legitimately and made a lot of money at it. But 219 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: before the Internet, I saw every phone book in the country, 220 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: which I would train the salespeople how to work out of. 221 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: I never saw my last name in the phone book. Now, 222 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I'm looking on the screen. It 223 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: says Buffer, what is this? So about six months later, 224 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: as he starts getting poppy or people are stopping me. 225 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: My friends are stopped me saying, is that your brother 226 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: Michael Buffer, the guy that goes, let's get ready to rumble? Look, 227 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: how do you look like you? Well, he's really handsome, 228 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: so I don't want to say. Some people say we 229 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: look alike. I go, thanks very much, I appreciate that, 230 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: but I said no. My brother's Brian, who I grew 231 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: up with my whole life, my older brother. And it 232 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: got to the point that it happened so much, I 233 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: just got this sixth sense, in this gut feeling. I 234 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 2: started calling the offices of Don King and Bob Aaron 235 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: and other people in the boxing business. Who is this guy? 236 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: What is he? And I found out he grew up 237 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: in New Jersey, very close to where I grew up 238 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, and I found all these close knit things. 239 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: So one time he was out doing a fight in 240 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: Los Angeles at a small place called the Recipa country club, 241 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: and we were watching on TV and my brother Brian. 242 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: I pushed my father to call the venue and leave 243 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: a message for Michael to call him. Well, Michael called 244 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: him up, called him back. They met for lunch. It 245 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: turned out to be his son. My dad never told me, 246 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: he never told me that Michael existed. So what happened 247 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: is is that we were driving up north one day 248 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: and this is before I had to make that phone call, 249 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: and I told him what I'm telling you about how 250 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: people are stopping me. Who is this guy? And I 251 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: got this, I think that might be your brother. I'm 252 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: twenty eight years old. I go, Dad, what are you 253 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: talking about? I have a brother, his son. I never 254 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: told you. I was twenty years old. It was World 255 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: War Two. I was going off to the Pacific to 256 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: do my duty. I was married at a young age. 257 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: I came back nine months later, a child was born, 258 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: a divorce ensued, and the last time I saw the 259 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: child was when he was two and a half. It 260 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: was just one of these strange stories. So Michael was 261 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: raised under the name of Hubert, and he was raised 262 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: by foster parents that his mother put him with, but 263 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: he was never formally adopted. So when he was twenty 264 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: years old himself and he went in the army, they 265 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: said during the Vietnam War, they said, you're not Michael Huber, 266 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 2: You're Michael Buffer, right, had that not happened, I probably 267 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: would not be here talking to you today. It's amazing 268 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: how life has the forks in the road that take place. 269 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: And he said he grew up with the leve of 270 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: de Beaver lifestyle. He had great foster parents, and when 271 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: he and my dad got together, they got along famously, 272 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: and we all got together. And I started going to 273 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: Vegas to go to the fights, and we'd go out, 274 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: we'd have fun together, we'd party together the whole bit. 275 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: And I had an epiphany, and I owned two companies. 276 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: I was making tremendous money back in around ninety three 277 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: ninety four, and I saw the riddick bow of Andrew 278 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: Holyfield fight. It was November sixteenth, nineteen ninety four. If 279 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm not mistake in ninety three, and I may be 280 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: wrong in the day, so pardon me about that. And 281 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: it was watching that fight in Vegas when I saw 282 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: everybody jumping out of their seats when he did the rumble. 283 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: I went back to my hotel room instead of going 284 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: to play blackjack and partying and having the fun we 285 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: like to have in Vegas. I couldn't stop. I started 286 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: writing down three pages of notes. Put him on the 287 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 2: football field. Let's put him here at commercials, TVs, toys, 288 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: trademark this phrase, let's get ready to rumble, make it 289 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: part of American culture. And I thought to myself, Wow, 290 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: he's never even made a hat or a T shirt, 291 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: never had an agent. And I met with him later 292 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: and I said, you know, I want to make you 293 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: Richard Moore famous and you ever dream, hopefully myself in 294 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 2: the process. But to do this, I'm going to sell 295 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: both my companies. I'll quit with the money I have 296 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: in the bank. I need to be your manager and 297 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: an equal partner. If I create a video game or 298 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: a toy or something like that, and I guarantee you 299 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 2: I'm going to make you bigger than you've ever been 300 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: and the whole nine yards. And he goes, well, how 301 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 2: are you going to do all that? I said, I 302 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: don't know. I really don't, but I'll figure it out. 303 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: I just need to know you're cool with it and 304 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: let me go to work. So I started traveling the 305 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: country with him, shaking hands, taking names, taking cards, making calls, 306 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: going to trade shows. He had trademarked the phrase, but 307 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: not properly to really protected. I met with attorneys and 308 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: formerly trademarked it. And if I could segue for a second, 309 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: one of the things that got me the trademark idea 310 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: that's happening right now is pat Riley was coaching in 311 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bulls basketball team. They had three peedd and 312 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: he trademarked repeat. And I read an article where he 313 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: made a million and a half dollars in licensing by trademarking. 314 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't aware you could trademark a phrase. That gave 315 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: me the idea, along with other emphasis, to go in 316 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 2: there and get that five words of era. Let's get 317 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: ready to rumble trademark properly. And now some thirty plus 318 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: years later, the Kansas City Chiefs, who I hope you 319 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: not be Philadelphia because I'm a Philadelphia Eagles fan, are 320 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: playing in the super Bowl, and if Kansas City wins 321 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: for the third time, it just came out in an 322 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: article a couple of weeks ago that pat Riley stands 323 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: to make millions of dollars because he owns his trademark 324 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 2: free P three P. 325 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so everyone in this room, he's not thinking you 326 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: had penrith pants's and they're coming for their five fat. 327 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: If they do it, that's that's a great story. 328 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: Probably more importantly from my point of view, like, how 329 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: do you build a relationship with I mean a passide 330 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: of business relationship with did brother, How do you build 331 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: a personal relationship and how is that that process? 332 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: How do you undertake that process as well as being 333 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: his business shop? 334 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: Sure, well, when you make people millions of dollars, they 335 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: sometimes have a tendency to be your best friend. 336 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: They tend like you. 337 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: But aside from that, all kidding aside, Michael and I 338 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: have always gotten along very well. He's very he's a 339 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: he's a great guy. We did not grow up together. 340 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: We are very similar in many ways, we are not 341 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: similar in many ways. And from day one we always 342 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: got along. And the one thing I do is I 343 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: always talk and act with total honesty. And that's very 344 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: important when you're doing business with somebody. And I've never 345 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: done anything in business where being the announcer that I 346 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: am today, where I put myself before him. I've always 347 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: I still as a manager, it's all about him. Something 348 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: comes from me. I keep everything totally separate, so I 349 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: just treat it on the up and up. I treat 350 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: it on the best level. And we've had a lot 351 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: of fun creating this, and actually what we've done together 352 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: is studied in trademark law. I found out at universities 353 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: in American College that we're a subject of trademark law 354 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: because of what we've done with Let's get ready to rumble, 355 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: which is an honor. You know, there's a lot of 356 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: experiences in life you had. I've had, as we've all had, 357 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: but I've had tremendous experiences. I can go on and 358 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: I tell you, whether it's in sports and entertainment, things 359 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: I've done, people I've met, and yeah, making money is 360 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: really great and obviously an emphasis to do everything that 361 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: I love because I love making money, But the experiences 362 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: and they enhance me. You get from the experiences, and 363 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: the character build up you get from the experiences are 364 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: so valuable in themselves too, and we both cherish all 365 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: these experiences together. 366 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: You always been the archetypal marketing person or better still, 367 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: recognizing or understanding where there was an opportunity to market 368 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: something very well. And let's forget about making money out 369 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: of it at this stage. But just I know this 370 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: is something that will resonate with consumers of whatever the topic. 371 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: Consumer that could be an. 372 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: Audience could be retail consumer, could be in your case, 373 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: boxing and or UFC. 374 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: Have you always been that type of person? And then 375 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: where does that come from? Was there something you learned 376 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: growing up or is it in your DNA? 377 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: Well, you learn through reps, you learn through experience, you 378 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: learn through trial and error, you learn through doing, but 379 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: at an early age and again, and I will give 380 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: my dad a lot of the credit to recognize something 381 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: that could be more than it is, because in life, 382 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: you can have a diamond in your hand and you're 383 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: gonna have a piece of call, and it all comes 384 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: down to marketing. No matter how great the product, if 385 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: you don't market that diamond correctly, nobody's gonna buy it. 386 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: You have that piece of call like the pet rock 387 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: from years ago or whatever, remember, and you market it 388 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: correctly and it sells millions and millions of dollars. So 389 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: I like to market diamonds, and I like to put 390 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: the marketing behind the diamonds. And I will only get 391 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: behind something. And I marketed a numerous different products. I've 392 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: created products branding myself with my time that I have 393 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: out now, I will only get behind something that I 394 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: truly believe in. 395 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: You said something really interesting before that, before you went 396 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: to your brother, you sat down, wrote all this stuff down, 397 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: took all these notes everywhere. And I'm just looking around here, 398 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: and I talk a lot of functions like this. How 399 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: important is it do you think is to take notes? 400 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: If you don't write it down, it's not going to happen. 401 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: It's that simple. You have an idea now, and you 402 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: think about three things, You're going to forget two of them, right, 403 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: one of them maybe the most important one. If you 404 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: have an idea, write it down. If you saw my 405 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: desk at home, I've got the little little stick, the 406 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: sheets yep all over the place. And then when it 407 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: comes to something I'm going to work on, I create 408 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: a file, I create notation, the whole bit. Write it down. 409 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: Write it down, definitely. 410 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: And do you think writing it down is for the 411 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: purposes of just remembering it or is it for the 412 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: purposes of embedding it in your system of thinking? In 413 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: other words, it becomes part of your thinking process. I 414 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: mean I take as a really good point. I mean, 415 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: I take the view for example, and I have this 416 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: thing called a playbook for business, and chapter two is 417 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: about what I call playing defensive, and what it's about 418 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: is making sure that you reduce the writing every single 419 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: part of. 420 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: Your business, like. 421 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: Who turns the lights on in the morning at the 422 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: factory and what time, and who turns the furnace and 423 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: up to what temperature, so that something that happens to 424 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: you someone can pick it up and go and do it. 425 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: Is it part of a process? Is it actually intellectual property? 426 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: Writing this stuff down? 427 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned something and we were saying, is embedding 428 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: it in your brain? Yeah? Right, So as you write 429 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: it down and you look at it, hopefully it's getting 430 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: embedded in your brain. So you have the recall factor 431 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: that comes in to remember. You know, if you kept 432 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: out of the amount of thoughts you have every day 433 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: of your life, but you can remember the important ones 434 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: that you write down. Yeah right. And let's say I'm 435 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: trying to think what did I what did I decide 436 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: to do last week? Let's go to my notes and 437 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: I'll check it. Whether it's in the day of the 438 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: log in my iPhone or something I wrote as an 439 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: email on myself, but in my in my computer, I 440 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: keep files on everything. If I have an idea, there's 441 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: a file. And even if I don't even act on 442 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: that idea for two years I can go back to 443 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: that file and look at it. 444 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: It's very important. It's it's I'm just looking at him. Honestly, 445 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm just blown away how well dressed you are, like 446 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: beautifully dressed you are. But you didn't need to do 447 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: it for us today because it's a Friday afternoon, Sydney summer. 448 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: You're you're not up on the stage like you will 449 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: be on the weekend, you know, announcing the fights. 450 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 3: That you're on brand. And many years. 451 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Ago, when I was before your president was president, when 452 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: he was doing the same show as oh I did 453 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: hear in Australia, I sat down him and he told 454 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: me how important it is to be on brand, and 455 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: that that person on brand became the president of United 456 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: States twice. 457 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: Right, How important is it is it to you? Is 458 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: it to be on brand all the time? 459 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: And obviously outside of this room, you'll you know, get 460 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: them pajamas and that I'm talking about on brand when 461 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: it's important? 462 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: How important is that to you? 463 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: Well, it's if you want to create and you set 464 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: out to create a brand, right, And it's not necessarily 465 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: just that you're creating a product and a brand. You 466 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: are a brand as a human being. You are your brand. 467 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: But you want to stick to your brand and be 468 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: uniform and consistent, consistent remember that word consistent. Consistency is 469 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: key to your brand and that comes down to, like 470 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: the most simplistic things in this day and age of 471 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: social media and internet, all your company name, your website, 472 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: your business card, your account of social on Instagram, Twitter, 473 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: it should all be the same name. If you deviate 474 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 2: from the brand, then you're creating two brand, right, So 475 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: you want everything to be the same. So if you 476 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: call yourself ABC Company, well look me up on my Instagram, 477 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm Abc. I'm ABC Company, on my website at ABC 478 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: dot com. On my product is ABC Energy Drink whatever. 479 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 2: Keep the brand uniform and consistent, because that way it 480 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: creates brand awareness. You might ask yourself a lot of 481 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: times in these commercials that you see on the Super 482 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: Bowl or big games here in Australia or whatever, and 483 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: you look at a commercial for thirty seconds they just 484 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: spend millions putting it on TV, and you go, what 485 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: was that about? What was the product? Right on the 486 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, I guarantee you half the commercials 487 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna remember what the product was because 488 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: it wasn't done correctly on the branding. You want to 489 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: create branding, and you want to create it. Excuse me, 490 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you my opinion. This is just my opinion. 491 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I want to eat. 492 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So have you ever heard that theory? Keep 493 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: it simple, Sam, keep it simple, Susan, Okay, I keep 494 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: it well. I stupid. I have a hard time saying 495 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: the word ugly and stupid is very hard for me 496 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: to say that because I think everybody's beautiful on their 497 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: own right and smart in their own right. But we 498 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: all know who's stupid. I'm just joking. But you want 499 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: to keep it simple because then it's easy to remember. 500 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: You know a lot of times people sit back and 501 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: they'll think, well, how can I just recreate this? Right? Honestly, 502 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: except for technology, there's nothing that really hasn't already been done. 503 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: You know, I got blown away when the potato chip 504 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: clip was admitted, right, a little chip to the top 505 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: of the bag. Some most simplistic ideas in the world 506 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: can still be made. You can make a lot of 507 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 2: money out of it. But keep it simple so people, 508 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: you don't ever want to put yourself in a position 509 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 2: of weakness where you have to over explain yourself as 510 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: to who you are and what you're doing. Right, And 511 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: we live in a world of add This is an 512 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: ad D society. I'm sure it's probably similar in Australias 513 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: as in America. People want the quick hit, they want 514 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: the quick this. They want to know in twenty seconds. 515 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 2: You've got about twenty seconds, maybe thirty to make your point, 516 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: to create your excitement. Would you agree with this? Oh yeah, totally. 517 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: So this is your this is it. You're going in there. 518 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: You got to throw that first punch. You've got to 519 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: create that that emphasis. Wow, this guy's really big. It's interesting. 520 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: Tell me more right, I want it. Okay, you got 521 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: to create that kind of an attitude of people. 522 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: And when I see you sitting here, you have not 523 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: disappointed in terms of the way you will your clothes. 524 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: Yourself, I mean. And Trump's the same. 525 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: Trump has been wearing the same not the same clothes, 526 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: but the same style of clothes forever. So I interviewed 527 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: him in twenty fifteen or sixteen, I can't remember exactly 528 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: what true it was, and he was, you know, the 529 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: red Tide. 530 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: I'd love to see his closet. It is probably blue blue, 531 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: blah blue, blah blue. 532 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: But you haven't just point either. So I think what's 533 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: important in these situations. And Bruce is a big, bigger 534 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: expert on this stuff than I am. 535 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: But if you are a brand, which he is, he's 536 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: a brand, and he's created in a brand around himself. 537 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: You know, we not only by what he says it's time, etc. 538 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: And clearly, but let's get ready to rumble with his brother, 539 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: but he has great band for himself. It's important that 540 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: you don't disappoint when you turn up to an audience. 541 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: This is a small audience, but even if it's a 542 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: bigger audience on Sunday, when you're you know, presenting yourself 543 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: in front of the millions of people will be watching 544 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: it on pay per. 545 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: View and at the stadium, you will not disappoint. 546 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: And it's important that you continue to do the same 547 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: thing every time. 548 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: Absolutely walking into this room, seeing the two three hundred 549 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: lovely people that are here, thank you so much for coming. 550 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm very honored the fact that you even want to 551 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: hear me say my name or say anything. I still 552 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: say humble about everything every day. I do something every 553 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: time I walk in the octagonists. The first show I've 554 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: ever done. It's the first time that I've ever done, 555 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 2: being in front of you all here in two three 556 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: hundred people. It's just as important to me to look 557 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 2: good and speak well and hopefully help you or enhance you, 558 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: or motivate you for ten minutes, ten days, ten years, 559 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 2: or two minutes whatever. Then I've done my job. It's 560 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: about what you do with it. But walking in here 561 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: now and walking in the octagon on Sunday in front 562 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: of fifteen twenty thousand people in the millions watching the TV, 563 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: these are both just as important to me. And I 564 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: got to keep that passion because if I don't maintain 565 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: that passion for what I do, it's time for me 566 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: to say I'm done. You know. I mean, I love 567 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: the paycheck. I love making money. Am I doing well? 568 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: Could I retire? You know? Yeah? I could retire, But 569 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: I mean, am I going to retire with the full 570 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: knowledge that I will never have to worry about anything 571 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: the rest of my life? I love what I do. 572 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: Right in the moment I stopped loving what I do, 573 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: then I'll start loving something else. 574 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: You do something else. Yeah, it's interesting. 575 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: He's got a ring on his finger here on his 576 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: right hand on his full thing out. 577 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: It says UFC. Yeah, what's that? What's that ring? 578 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: Can you tell us about that? 579 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: Well, it's an octagon at UFC. When I turned fifty, 580 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: I had this made as a gift to myself and 581 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: I never knew the word black diamonds. I never knew 582 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: that black diamonds assisted. Two months later, the movie Blood 583 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: diamond came out with Leonardo DiCaprio, and I felt like 584 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: an it because I had black diamers put on my bracelet. 585 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: But any wait is what it is? I I wear 586 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: this ring in the octagon with pride. I had another 587 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: ring which was bebe my b ring, my family ring. 588 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: But I really love this. The UFC actually made this 589 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 2: for me. I didn't design this. I designed this and 590 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: I love it. Except if I ever get it a 591 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: go right and I hit somebody with this, it's going 592 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: to say UFC on their cheek and they're gonna I'm done. 593 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to be arrested, probably with it about two hours. 594 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: But by the way, what I wouldn't mind just quickly 595 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: talking about is that you have a black belt in 596 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: one of the martial arts. 597 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: I have three black belts, so I have a secondary 598 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: black belt in tong Sudo and I'm a black belt 599 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: in a style called jiu jitsu Do, but I am 600 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: not a black jiu jitsu black belt. I want to 601 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: say this right now. Can I do jiu jitsu in 602 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: the years of oseration and my martial arts training, Yes, 603 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: but not as a black belt. I used to go 604 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: in and train a French Sabah fighter who created this 605 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: style jiu Jitsu Doo, and I was going to train 606 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: his black belts striking, and after about eight months of 607 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: training him striking, he presented me with a black belt. 608 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: But I will never ever say I'm truly a jiu 609 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: jitsu black belt. It's just one of the black belts 610 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: I hold. But I kicked box for twelve years very seriously, 611 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: and I was always fighting. I was doing martial arts. 612 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: I'm a surfer Malibu. We surf, we did martial arts. 613 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: I trained with Chuck Dorris's fighting partners. I've been in 614 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: martial arts since I was twelve, and when the UFC 615 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: came on the scene, I knew it was my world. 616 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: So can you just quickly tell us in the story 617 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: that when you were in the lift with Danna, you 618 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: came out having a few drinks and you've got in 619 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: a blue what we call the blue in Australia, what 620 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: do you we call. 621 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 3: It a blue, a blue, a punch up? 622 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: We call it a blue, a blue or a Steve oh, 623 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: because you're black and blue or blue. 624 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: That's interesting hopefully not you the other dude. So maybe 625 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: you should tell a story. 626 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I can have you tell a story as 627 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: I've heard it, but you could tell a story like 628 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: you and Dan have been out drinking or something like that, 629 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: and then you've got in the lift of that was 630 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: a UFC fighter and then yeah, his name was you 631 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Break Trigg, right, Trig Trigg. 632 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: He was a top ten Walter Wade in the world. 633 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: About a year before that happened. He had just got 634 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: bounced from the UFC because he lost three fights. We're 635 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: friends and my dad taught me as a kid. He said, 636 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: you're going to go to school. I was in Philadelphia 637 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 2: at the time. He goes, they're going to stand you up. 638 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 2: You're going to get pressed for your lunch money. You're 639 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: going to get pressed by the bullies. Just punch him 640 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: right in the nose, Just just punch him. Fight them. 641 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: If you get beat up, you get beat up. But 642 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: if you don't, you're going to get picked on the 643 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: rest of your life. So nobody puts their hands on me. 644 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: I don't care who you are, it's just not the 645 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: thing to do. I will not put my hands on you. 646 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: I don't expect you to put your hands on me. 647 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: So anyway, with that being he said, we had just 648 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: done a show in Vegas, a Fight Night, and Mike Olbery, 649 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: the commentator at the time, and Frank Trigg we all 650 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: went to Mike's room and we had a drink and 651 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: we're going to go out and we're all friends, right, 652 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: So we're on the tenth floor of the hard Rock 653 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: Hotel and we go to the elevator and we're laughing 654 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: and joking and the elevator opens up and there's Dana 655 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: and a security guy Tom. Now I'm the last walk in. 656 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: Frank Trigg. He wants to get back in the octagon. 657 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: He walked, here's Dana and if you can picture this, uh, 658 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: here's Dana and his security guy. Mike Ober goes here, 659 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: Frank Trigg goes here, and now I'm walking in a 660 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: Frank Amedia's like data. I want he gonna put me 661 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: back in the octagon. I want to fight. Da da 662 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: da da. And as I'm walking into the door, I 663 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: noticed Dana had this incredible watch band on it. I 664 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: love watches, so I just reacted. I just leaned over again. 665 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: That's such a cool watch. I really like that. And 666 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I get a ridge hand. He's 667 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: back here and I get a ridge hand, and Mike O, 668 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: that sounds pretty good. I get a ridge hand to 669 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: my throat, which is a chief shot, as we call it. 670 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: I can call something else, but I want to be played. 671 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: And I turn around and I look at Franken. I'm 672 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: frank you hit me. I go, why the F did 673 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: you hit me? And he looked at me and he said, 674 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: what are you going to do about it? My son 675 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: my street kicked in and I just went pop pop, 676 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: and it was on and the door's closed and there's 677 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: like ten going down. And so then the door's closed 678 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: after I popp him because I stepped in the elevator 679 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: and Dana's like up against the wall like this, and 680 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: the security guys like this, and I wasn't looking at 681 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: what they were doing, and we just start going at 682 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: it and going at it, and we're in a place 683 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: called the Hard Rock Hotel in Vegas, which has anybody 684 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: ever been there at the hard Rock Hotel. Well, you know, 685 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: when you go down to the first four in the lobby, 686 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: it's all glass encasements, right, and you know, we're slamming 687 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: each other, right, and I'm thinking the doors open, we 688 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: get down to the bottom. He needed me my shoulder 689 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: turned him against the wall. I was gonna, you know, 690 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: do whatever. And I feel the doors opening and I 691 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: threw my arms in the air and I go, Frank, 692 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: we're done. We're done. We're done. Because I knew we 693 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: would go out of the elevator, probably go through the glass, right, 694 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: who knows what was going to happen. And I'm not 695 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: about to embarrass the UOC and whatever. So I had 696 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: to wear with all the stuff to fight at that point. 697 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: And then, you know, kind of laughing. It was a 698 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: fun go And uh, there's blood up and down my shirt. 699 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: I look down my hand that my thumbs feel back. 700 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: I could see the bone in my thumb and blood's 701 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: gushing everywhere. And I guess I cut it on one 702 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: of his rings or his belt buckle. You know, things happen, 703 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: and Dana's like enjoying the heck out of it. And 704 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: so anyway, we said goodbyes, this and the other. I 705 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: went to the triage excuse me. I went to the 706 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: paramedics who were there in the hotel because we just 707 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: got done doing the fights, and they were, guys, can 708 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: you super golod shutting of brush and the stitches. So 709 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: I went to the hospital, the emergency ward. And this 710 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: is the really short version. I went to the emergency 711 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: ward and the doctor comes in and I can hear 712 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: my voice. In the next room, they're watching the repeat 713 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: of the Ultimate Fighter I did the earlier that day, 714 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: and he walks in. He looks at me for a docus, 715 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: What the effort you doing here? Right? And I go, well, 716 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: you know, here we go. So about six seven stitches, 717 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars TECHNI shot, go back with a wrap thumb, 718 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: go out that night, have a good time doing what 719 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: you do in Vegas. And I left it at that, 720 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: and I told my parents. I told my brother I 721 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: don't talk about fights. They happened. They happened. Two days later, 722 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: a fighter named Mikey Burnett comes up to me and 723 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: he says, hey, boff, like a what he goes, I 724 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: heard you took it to the trick Mikey, I didn't 725 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: tell anybody who's who's talking. He goes, he goes, Dana's 726 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: telling everybody everybody. So then it became like an urban legend. 727 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: And and and Dana we get along great. Dana is 728 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: an amazing person. He's the reason we're here where we 729 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: are today, along with everybody's efforts. Uh. He called me 730 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: up a couple of years ago or a few years ago, 731 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: whatever it was, and they made an animated show on 732 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 2: the elevator fight and by life, he goes, bluff, Wait, 733 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: do you see this is the best thing we ever did. 734 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: You just can't stop talking about it, can't you? 735 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: You know? 736 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: And what's amazing is that to just go back and 737 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: let let it happen. And I was watching him in 738 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: the press on all the presses in the last couple 739 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: of days, and uh, Strickling was out there getting stuck 740 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: into everybody. And Dinah was just like, this is somebody 741 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: us some questions Sean, and Sean inimbit why it was 742 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: sort of giving everybody chake and putting in the sway 743 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: woods and blah blah blah and uh and and the 744 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: camera assumed of as a diner and Dinny just standing 745 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: half in his head off, he's just letting it go, 746 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: and Strangland was basically saying, look, I'm here to fight. 747 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: For freedom of speech. I'll say what the fucker like. 748 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: Basically, that's the reason he's using actually more colorful words 749 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: than that. But the great thing about Dana is he 750 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: does not try to coach anyone in a way that 751 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 1: they have to address the media probably more importantly, and 752 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the big successes of the UFC. 753 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: He allows people to be authentic and that's that's one 754 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: of the great things about UFC is authentic. And I 755 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: just don't mean individuals are authentic when when the way 756 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: they express themselves, you know, and however they want to 757 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: express themselves. But what's authentic about it is it's not 758 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: a stitch up. And I know you love boxing. I 759 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: love boxing too, and I'm very close to boxing in Australia. 760 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: But UFC, there's no bullshit. You fight the person in 761 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: your waight division who's next in line to fight. You 762 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: don't fight the fifteenth guy. If you're at the top 763 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: of the tree, you don't control it. UFC sets the fighters, 764 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: they're the matchmaker. You're as in boxing, you've got a 765 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: manager and manager trying to do it. You know, we 766 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: don't really see the best outcomes. And I think that 767 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: whole in authenticity, that that authentic piece that Dinah's created 768 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: is amazing, like absolutely amazing. 769 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: It is amazing. By the way, segue back, I don't 770 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: ever say in that fight in the elevator that I betrayed. 771 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: I don't talk like that. Okay, what happened happened friendly 772 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 2: tet a tech between two friends, and I come from 773 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: the school that you have one, you have a beer afterwards, 774 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah totally. Yeah. Nowadays you get shot or what happens. 775 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, yeah, exactly. So getting back what you're saying is, 776 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: you know, in boxing, one of the things about boxing, 777 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: loving it the way I do, there's so many promoters 778 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: and top fighter here, top boxer here, but do they 779 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: ever meet right. The UFC has the hundreds or however 780 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 2: many fighters they have on the roster, and the best 781 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: always fight the best. And of course he has to 782 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: negotiate with the managers and the agents and all that, 783 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: but he gets the job done right, and he's providing entertainment. 784 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: Dana wants to give you the best entertainment that we 785 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: can give you with the best, fighting the best, and 786 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: the man is set. I don't even know if he sleeps. 787 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: You know, he's just constantly on the go doing what 788 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: he's doing. And I will say it again, it is 789 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: a joy. It is an honor to work for data. 790 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: It'll be twenty nine years from me February sixteenth of 791 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: this month that I stepped in the OCGON twenty nine years. 792 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: My first fight was UFC A to buy him on 793 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: Puerto Rico, where I announced the prelims. But watching the 794 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: evolutionary process of when Dana took over the UFC about 795 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: three four years after I started to where it is today. 796 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: It's just an amazing to be in this rocket ship 797 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: going uphill and having a first class seat and seeing 798 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 2: everything that I've been able to see in experience. And 799 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,479 Speaker 2: I don't think we would be here if it wasn't 800 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: for Dana White and for Tita Brothers, who were his 801 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: partners back then, and the powers that be involved, because 802 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: we were in danger going out of business before he 803 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: took it over. 804 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: He's taken to the whole whole new level, of. 805 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: Whole new level. I think boxing is learn as we've 806 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: learned from boxing I think boxing has learned with what 807 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: he's done with the UFC, you know, and I hope 808 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: so I want everybody to be successful, whether boxing from 809 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: order another mme for order, whatever, we all have the 810 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: right to be successful. Just do a rate and treat 811 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: the fighter's rate. 812 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: So a lot of people's room probably don't know this, 813 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: but Data comes from a very humble background. And he 814 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: was a boxing himself then to become a boxing trainer, 815 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: and he had a bit of drama and wherever he 816 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: was training and had to move away. But he's one 817 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: of those individuals who's you know, it wasn't like he 818 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: was born into it and or inherited from his parents 819 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: or whatever, and he had to make a commitment towards 820 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: it and take a leap of faith with the Fatid 821 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: brothers buying you in the beginning. Sure, he's done very well, 822 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: made a lot of money. One of the things that 823 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: you're observed, and you're a very close person to UFC 824 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: and Dana in particular, what are some of the things 825 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: that you've observed, maybe even learned about being a good 826 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: business person by watching Dana. 827 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: White, Like he would have to be one of the. 828 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: Most successful business people relative to that brand in that 829 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: business in the world. 830 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 2: Today, Well, we get back to the consistency level. He's 831 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: very consistent in his efforts. He's very passionate about what 832 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: he does. And through the trial and eraror that he 833 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 2: went through in the beginning, because there was trial and era. 834 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: You know, they basically his partner, the Cheeta Brothers, whether 835 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 2: it was Lorenzo or his brother, told him, you know, hey, 836 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: it's time to sell it. We're forty four something like 837 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 2: forty two to forty four million in the whole, right, 838 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: Dana wound up getting a buyer for and again my 839 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: numbers could be off, so please excuse me getting a 840 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: buyer for around seven eight million whatever it was if 841 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: I read it correctly. And then they decided not to 842 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 2: do it, and they rolled the dice by paying to 843 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: have a show done called The Ultimate Fighter, and they 844 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 2: just never lost their passion and they wanted to make 845 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: this thing happen, and they went through it thick and 846 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: thin and luckily with the pocketbooks that they had. And 847 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: when we had the first season of The Ultimate Fighter 848 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: on Spike TV, it came down to the final event 849 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: in that fight, which was Preeten Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonner, 850 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: and if you understand TV ratings, you know a one 851 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: to two or three. During that final event, which was 852 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: such an incredible fight, I think they scored like a 853 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 2: twelve or higher rating. Everybody was tuned into the show, 854 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: which made the show a hit. Everybody started watching, and 855 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: suddenly at that point we started propelling again as the UFC. 856 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 2: So it's like, if you believe in yourself as he 857 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: does so well, don't give up, keep pushing, keep going. 858 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: There is a point where you have to realize it's 859 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 2: time to get up to the table and find another game. 860 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 2: That's true of every business, and you've got to be 861 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: realistic about that in yourself too. But he realized that, hey, okay, yeah, 862 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 2: we're forty four million in the whole. We just spent 863 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 2: all this money in the show, but now we're taking 864 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: off again. Let's keep going, Let's keep going, and it 865 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: just kept taking off. 866 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: You're a big thinker, and Dana's a beig thinking too. 867 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: How important is it to once you've got the thing right? 868 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: And you said consistency and you've got to be consistent, 869 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: and how important is it to start to continue to 870 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: innovate as well? 871 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: So innovate your product, innovate around your product. 872 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 2: Well, I always say that the hardest thing in business 873 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 2: is not it's not getting there, it's once you reach 874 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: that plateau, is maintaining that and staying there. That's that's 875 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: the hardest part. And that's where you want to stay 876 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: again with your consistency, your passion, and don't give up 877 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: because oh I made it. Now I can relax a 878 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 2: little bit. Not really, Now's the time to really pay 879 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 2: attention to everything needs to be done when it comes 880 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 2: to the branding and the consistency of the branding and 881 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: keeping the awareness out there, and the quality of your 882 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: product and their salespeople, everybody involved in the company and 883 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 2: Data was a very big micro manager. Not that he's 884 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: not still and had us, you know, watching over everything, 885 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: and he still is to a large extent. But he 886 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: surrounded himself with a great team. He has a great 887 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: team of people, and that's very important to you too. 888 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: Who's on your team? Who are who are the people 889 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 2: that are backing you up? You know, you get sick, 890 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 2: you can't go to work, you want to take a vacation, 891 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 2: want to do whatever? Who is your team? Are you 892 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 2: a one man, one woman army? Are you a team 893 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: and the quality of your team, and it's almost like 894 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 2: you're it's a family, you know, and you want to 895 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 2: keep that family atmosphere. But you you still got to 896 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: govern your business with a strong arm, right, make sure 897 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: people are doing their job and treat correctly. I know 898 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: I kind of segueing away from your question a little bit, 899 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 2: and I apologize for that. But one thing I want 900 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: to say too, is that when you have a company 901 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: and you have people working for you, sure you want 902 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 2: to pay them correctly. You want to make them happy. 903 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: When they love doing what they're doing, They're going to 904 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: pay properly. But I'll tell you one of the biggest 905 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 2: things that's missing in a lot of companies that I see, 906 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: it's walking into somebody and patting them on the back 907 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: and telling them they do a good job, making them 908 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 2: feel appreciated. That's worth thousands of dollars to some people. 909 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 2: They just want to be appreciated and know they're part 910 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: of the team. And I don't see that a lot 911 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: of times in businesses. He's dynal though, Oh yeah, Dana's 912 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: he takes great care of his people, you know that 913 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: I can see. I mean, he coverage it strong hond 914 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: you're going to work for UFC, You're going to work. 915 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: He's well and he sort of came across from he's 916 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: not somebody to be trifled with, but at the same 917 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: time as his extraordinarily I don't want to use the 918 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: word chumming because it sounds a little bit fake. He wasn't, 919 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: but he was engaging, like I wanted to talk to him, 920 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: and he was making me feel as though he wanted 921 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: to talk to me, and he had the premier in 922 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,479 Speaker 1: the extreme. He made me in the Premier look cool 923 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: like and that's pretty hard to do. Like poor premiere 924 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: in New South Wales's dressed in his suit and ever. 925 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: But the Premier actually is quite cool and he loves mma. 926 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: He loves martial lights of every type. But Dana was smart. 927 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: He did not leave anybody out, so he would engage 928 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: the premiere in the questioning. So I was hosting it. 929 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: But Dana knew when to talk to the premier direct. 930 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: He was very good at reading the room and he's 931 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: the leader of the organization. He could easily say this, 932 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 1: and I'm a rich dude, I don't need to talk 933 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 1: to you. I'll just do a ten minute conversation I'm 934 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 1: out the door, but he gave us extra time. 935 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 3: He actually went on even further. 936 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: And and I know it's important to talk to the 937 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: premiers us, but he doesn't need to do it. 938 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 3: It's going to happen whether the Premier likes it or not. 939 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: The USC the. 940 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: Event is going to be as popular whether the Premier 941 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: comes in or not. So how important is it to 942 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: be able to read the room? And whether it's one 943 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: on one or one on thirty, you do it. 944 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: It's very important. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at you, 945 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 2: we're having a conversation, but I'm also talking to you too. 946 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 2: You know, everybody, everybody, we're all important. You're important, I'm important. 947 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 2: Every single person in this room is important. And to 948 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: sit here and think that any of you are not important, well, 949 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 2: that's wrong, that's wrong. We're all equal. We prove ourselves 950 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: in the pudding, we prove themselves of what we do. 951 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: But we're all created equal. I can't jump and take 952 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 2: a basketbay Michael Jordan, but we're all created equal. 953 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: He can't say, he can't say it's time though, Can 954 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: I ask you about that? 955 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 3: The phrase is time? Is that your phrase? 956 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah? 957 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 3: And do you have that trademarked. 958 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,479 Speaker 1: Yes, you have the trademarked as well, and can I 959 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: I mean you're sixty sevn years of age, so you 960 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: know your your voice. I mean, how do you keep 961 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: your voice as pitch perfect, particularly when the way you 962 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 1: say it you scream? 963 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: I thought to himself, I'll try it. I tried at home. 964 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 3: I had this and my voice. 965 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 2: All other join the game. 966 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: I tend to talk much quiet. A lot of people 967 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: tell me that is they listen to my podcast. It 968 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: actually makes it fall asleep. I don't know anyone in 969 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: this room and fell aston my podcast back. I'm happy 970 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: I can make you feel relaxed at least, but doing it's. 971 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 3: Time, What do you do? Is this some trick you do? 972 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: Do you do see a practitioner, a voice specialist to 973 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: you look, spray this in your mouth or whatever? 974 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 2: What do you do? 975 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 3: Now? Maybe there is some trick here. 976 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to start up by saying, and when 977 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 2: I first became an announcer of managing my legendary brother Michael, 978 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: everybody won. Everybody thought you had to have a freeze, 979 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: you had to be freeze for even you had to 980 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 2: start off with a freeze. So I didn't start off 981 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 2: in announcing with a freeze. I never had a freeze. 982 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 2: To me, it wasn't what I say, it's how I 983 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 2: say it. But I also told myself in the first 984 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: three years of charting out as an announcer, if I 985 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 2: couldn't develop my own unique style and be recognized for 986 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 2: my style and not recognized as Michael Buffer's brother, but 987 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 2: rerecognized as Bruce Buffer, then I was going to quit. 988 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 2: I was going to give it up. So it was 989 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: about six seven years into my announcing, as I was perfecting, 990 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 2: I look back the first time I announced, and I'm like, oh, 991 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 2: you know, we're all different. We all evolutionary process of 992 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 2: getting better with your tool. Every morning I had Tennessee. 993 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 2: But one of the things I do in the morning, 994 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 2: when I'm shaving or looking in the mirror, I would say, 995 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 2: it's time. I've been doing this for years and because 996 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 2: to me, that meant to me, It's time to have 997 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 2: the best day I've ever had. It's time to be 998 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: the best I can be. It's time to put it 999 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: all together. Right. So I realized at the end, when 1000 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 2: you're announcing the main event, and this is something I 1001 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 2: learned from Michael, is when you go into the judges' 1002 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 2: names and the commission and all you're creating all this 1003 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 2: excitement with this is the main event. But then you're 1004 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 2: naming all the judges or you're taking the air out 1005 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 2: of the and you want to kind of bring them 1006 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: back in and create the excitement. So I thought, Okay, well, 1007 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 2: the fans are watching on TV. This is a six 1008 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 2: to seven hour show. They've been watching for let's say 1009 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 2: five hours. It's coming down to the main event. The 1010 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 2: people were in the audience, they had the same They've 1011 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 2: been watching for five hours, coming down to the main event. 1012 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 2: The fighters have been training for eight to ten weeks, 1013 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 2: give or take. Now it's coming down and putting their blood, 1014 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 2: sweat and tears on the line the main event in 1015 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: their lives. It's time. This is the moment we've all 1016 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 2: been waiting for. And I thought I started the show off. 1017 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 2: I used to start it off by saying it's time 1018 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 2: to begin the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Like that I would 1019 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: do start at the show. And then when Dana took 1020 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 2: over the UFC, I had the Godfather meeting. They flew 1021 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 2: me to Vegas and sat across the table from and 1022 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,919 Speaker 2: he goes, you know, I want you to stop saying 1023 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 2: that at the beginning of the show, and I like 1024 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 2: you to shorten your announcements a little bit. The announcement 1025 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 2: you did for Tito Ortiz and Evan Tanner in Lenic 1026 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 2: City is the greatest announcement I've ever heard you make. 1027 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 2: I'd love for hear you to keep that same tempo. 1028 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 2: So I took what Dana told me and I followed it. 1029 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 2: And then I thought, you know, if I'm not going 1030 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 2: to say it's time at the beginning, this could be 1031 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 2: really good to say at the end. So I started 1032 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 2: saying it, not with the bravado that I say it now. 1033 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 2: Or I used to jump like three feet in the 1034 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: air and all this kind of stuff, and yeah, I 1035 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: still still I gave a little jump now, but I 1036 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 2: blew my acl and the octagon announcing George Saint Pierre 1037 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 2: one time, not jumping. Just that's another story I can 1038 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 2: get so well. I can tell you so many stories. Anyway, 1039 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 2: So it was two thousand and three. We were in 1040 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: Brazil where you had just gone back to Brazil. We're 1041 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 2: in Rio or I think Rio de Janeiro, and or 1042 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 2: self polla one or the other, and I did the 1043 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 2: it's time, and I'm focused on the fighters, but I'm announcing. 1044 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking into the eye at the tiger, right, I'm 1045 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 2: not even thinking. I'm thinking about the audience, but I'm 1046 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 2: not even focused on them. It's me and you, right, 1047 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 2: this is it, this is your moment. I'm here to 1048 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 2: enhance this moment for you before you put your life 1049 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 2: on the line as much as I can, and to 1050 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: make the fans excited as I can. So I get 1051 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 2: out of the octagon and stitched around the stitch man. 1052 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 2: The cut man comes up to me, goes, buff, did 1053 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 2: you hear that? I go hear what? He goes. The 1054 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: entire audience just said it's time with you, and these 1055 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 2: are Portuguese speaking people, and I thought, oh h it's 1056 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: working right, And that's when I realized it was catching on. 1057 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, Now I go to 1058 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 2: every city and if you're going to go to the 1059 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 2: show on Sunday, chances that will happen there. And I'm 1060 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 2: honored and humbled by and trust me, I love it. It 1061 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 2: really makes me. It's the highest compliment I can get 1062 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 2: for what I'm doing. That aside from a fighter telling 1063 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 2: me how excited and how much you appreciated my announcing, 1064 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 2: or a little kid coming up to me that's always 1065 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 2: the best thing, or anybody in particular, but anyway, that's 1066 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 2: that's when I realized, and you'll probably hear it on 1067 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,959 Speaker 2: Sunday too. It's great. 1068 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: I actually loved them, and for me it gets the 1069 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: hairs on the back of my neck standing But I 1070 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: love the whole. 1071 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 2: It gets my hair standing up too. I love the hold. 1072 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 2: It's so good. 1073 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: The entertainment quality, apart from the skills and the craft, 1074 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: the entertainment quality of everything is the whole lead up 1075 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: to Sunday. Everything everything, and it ends up with you 1076 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: saying it's time. That's the very last bit of entertainment, 1077 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: apart from the fight is fighting each other. 1078 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 2: Well, if you watch the fights from the very first fight, 1079 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 2: I'll come out and give a big push to get 1080 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 2: the show going. But it builds with each fight and 1081 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 2: crescendo's into the main event where I let it explode. 1082 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 2: I call it roaring. I used to scream when I 1083 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,760 Speaker 2: started out because I didn't know how to use my voice. 1084 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 2: You might ask yourself, how does a singer do five 1085 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 2: nights a week, two shows a night. How do they 1086 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 2: do that and still keep their voice. Yeah, do you 1087 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 2: They bring it from the diaphram. I'm sorry about that. 1088 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 2: They bring it from the diaphram of your diaphragm. I 1089 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 2: used to bring it right here, and I get a 1090 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 2: little horse after a show, so I learned how to 1091 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 2: control it. I never took voice lessons. You had ask 1092 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 2: me that earlier. On the table. When I'm working, I 1093 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: have like hallsmant elyptus and a jar and a jar 1094 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 2: a cup of honey, right, And what I do is 1095 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 2: I cope my throat with honey in between each fight, 1096 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 2: little water just to keep it smooth. But I've done 1097 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: the show with blown acl blown out back, laryngitis, one 1098 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 2: hundred and three degree temperature. I don't tell anybody. I 1099 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 2: go in and do my job. I mean, the fighters 1100 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 2: are putting their lives on the line. I can certainly 1101 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 2: get through a night of announcing. 1102 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 3: You've led an entrepreneurial entrepreneurial life. 1103 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: You've done lots of different things, like lots of different 1104 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: some really way out there things that I've found out 1105 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: in my research which I'm not even able to touch on, 1106 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: although it was I did have something to do with 1107 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: interviewing importance stars, which I've done too, by the way, 1108 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: is nothing wrong with it, but in some way our 1109 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: stuff maybe you probably do some things weren't as successful 1110 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: as well, but you've done some things that are super successful. 1111 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 2: But entrepreneurs make a lot of sacrifices. 1112 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: Have you got any regrets of anything you may not 1113 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: have done in your life that you had to sacrifice 1114 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: as a result of being in this entrepreneur always. 1115 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,280 Speaker 3: On it in business, in anything, in life, just life. 1116 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 2: Sure, I think we all have regrets. I mean, you know, absolutely, 1117 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 2: and a personal level, I lost my dad in twenty eighteen. 1118 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 2: I lost my beautiful mom, not last Christmas, but the 1119 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,439 Speaker 2: Christmas before. Who was my best friend lives on ninety five, 1120 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 2: you know Tom Dad, my emphasis ice collar. Before and 1121 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 2: after every UFC, she says something like why did her 1122 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: dean let the fight go so long? You know, it's 1123 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 2: like she just was so into it. She'd wear a 1124 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 2: USC shirt, watching TV, the whole bit. You know, it's 1125 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 2: very important. I'm a very family guy, and maybe the 1126 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 2: one regret when it comes to family is that I've 1127 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 2: never been married. I was a kid, I've never been married. 1128 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: I've almost been divorced twice, but I've never been married. 1129 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 2: Just kidding, is that I didn't get married and have 1130 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 2: I have a child on my own, you know, her 1131 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 2: children of my own, two for my mom and my 1132 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 2: dad or my mom and I do have one great 1133 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 2: thing which she was with me, is that my partner. 1134 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 2: I have an amazing partner, the VP and partner I 1135 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 2: had my company. Her name is Kristen, and we run 1136 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: this business together. We do more work out of my 1137 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 2: office the most missized corporations, just the two of us. 1138 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 2: And we've worked together side by side for twenty seven years. 1139 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 2: I've known her for thirty and she got married like 1140 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 2: twenty three years ago. And because we're such good friends, 1141 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 2: she honored me by allowing me to be godfather to 1142 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 2: her son, and I'm like an uncle to her other son, Rupert. 1143 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 2: And I helped raise these two boys because when I 1144 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 2: was traveling on the weekends, her husband's working during the 1145 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 2: week and she's got the kids when they're one to 1146 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 2: three years old at the office and I'm teaching them, 1147 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 2: feeding them, you know, and changing diapers here and there 1148 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: and going through the little thing. And it's one of 1149 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 2: the greatest experiences I ever had in my life. So 1150 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 2: at least I had that, So I had that on 1151 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 2: a business regret. And there's other personal things, you know, 1152 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 2: maybe you didn't give enough time to this person, or 1153 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: maybe you didn't develop this relationship over here. The sacrifices 1154 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 2: you have to make. There's sacrifices you have to make. 1155 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of sacrifices in my business because 1156 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 2: the hardest part of my business is the travel. That's 1157 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 2: if you ask me what the hardest part is, it's 1158 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 2: the travel. Give me the octagon. I'm a pig and 1159 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 2: a candy store, or it was a kid in a 1160 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 2: candy store, not a pig, as maybe that's the same 1161 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 2: both ways. But yeah, the travel, the sacrifices you make 1162 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 2: there not spending time with your family and missing certain 1163 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 2: moments and time with friends and such as that. But 1164 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 2: I try to make up for it as best I 1165 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 2: can in business. I studied acting as I wanted to 1166 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 2: be an actor when I was a kid, went to 1167 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 2: the Dallas Theater of Arts when I lived there and 1168 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 2: trained there, and I was always I'm a real big 1169 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 2: movie buff. I was always fascinated with you know, Errol 1170 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 2: Flynn and John Wayne, Steve McQueen and who I had 1171 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 2: the pleasure of Steve McQueen. You know Steph Queen, of course, 1172 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,399 Speaker 2: every you know Steve McQueen, the actor. When I moved 1173 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,879 Speaker 2: to Malibu, his son still was one of my best friends. 1174 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 2: He just passed away a few months ago. About excuse me, 1175 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 2: six months ago. But I would spend almost every day 1176 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 2: in my life is Steve McQueen's house, surfing in front 1177 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 2: of his house. And we were really good friends the 1178 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 2: last six years of his life. You know, mister coole 1179 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 2: they called him. 1180 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 3: He was again. 1181 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 2: I loved him. Yeah, he was incredible. So I getting 1182 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 2: away from that. Sorry, I have Tennessee to jump back 1183 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 2: and forth. My dad was a film buff, and I 1184 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 2: can talk film and movies all day long. And put 1185 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 2: me on Jeopardy, I probably have a chance of winning 1186 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 2: the show. So I was fascinated, you know, with certain 1187 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,919 Speaker 2: actors like Errol Flynn. I loved his lifestyle, I loved 1188 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 2: what he did, and I thought, how cool would it 1189 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 2: be to be an actor? Right? And at eighteen and Malibu, 1190 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 2: I was approached by a producer who produced some really 1191 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 2: big films and why don't you come in and see me? 1192 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 2: And I never went for that meeting. You know, little things, 1193 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: the little things you didn't do where I could have 1194 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 2: maybe taken that shot. But I'm fine. I don't miss it. 1195 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 2: No regrets, no regrets, no, no regrets. I've lived a 1196 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 2: beautiful life. I wouldn't change anything for the world. I 1197 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 2: would maybe enhance certain aspects of it, or build on 1198 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 2: certain aspects of it. But I'm very very happy with 1199 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 2: the way my life has gone, very very happy. 1200 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. This is the ultimate entrepreneur. Thanks very much, 1201 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: Thanks very much.