WEBVTT - SPOILER: What's Happening Between Dave And Jamie Now, Present Day, Is Not Good... 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome back to the Maths Funny Podcast with

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<v Speaker 1>Me Joshua Fox. Last night, we watched Jamie get stood

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<v Speaker 1>up by her Plan B groom as she agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>go on a date with him and he never shown up.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you thought that was sad, wait until you

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<v Speaker 1>find out what is currently happening between her and Dave

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<v Speaker 1>present day. Warning though, before you continue listening, there will

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<v Speaker 1>be big spoilers in this so it is very much

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<v Speaker 1>up to you if you wish to continue listening. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you do wish to continue listening and don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the spoiler, please don't then moan up me that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ruined it for you. Because we're all adults, we can

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<v Speaker 1>make this choice ourselves quickly. Though, before I get into

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<v Speaker 1>all that, I just want to say thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>the feedback on my chat with Elliott yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry. I will still be doing the serious stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>On this podcast as well as like the usual dumb stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and the next episode of that will be later this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did think while chatting with Elliott that I

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<v Speaker 1>could really try and explain here why I'm doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm pushing for changes, why I'm asking these uncomfortable questions,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just didn't really feel like the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the place, to be honest, Like, he's been through this

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<v Speaker 1>whole machine now and he's feeling good and positive and

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of come out on the other side, which

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<v Speaker 1>is great. And who am I to then try and

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<v Speaker 1>make him see that things need to change and say

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<v Speaker 1>all these bad things when that wasn't his personal experience,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, he was in a good mood, good energy,

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought, why bring that down by, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>taking it too serious. Not everything has to be that serious.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of why I just laughed along at him, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>make math funny funny again. And I do agree to

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<v Speaker 1>an extent, maybe I should try to find a better

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<v Speaker 1>balance of content. That being said, though, people do not

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<v Speaker 1>have to take the title of this podcast so literally,

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<v Speaker 1>maths Funny is just the name of a meme page

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<v Speaker 1>I started six years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, that like page.

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<v Speaker 1>Has grown into like a brand, you could say, like

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<v Speaker 1>with a podcast now, which is why I've kept the name.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh my god, every.

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<v Speaker 1>Time I do something serious, people do not have to

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<v Speaker 1>comment going, this wasn't funny, Yeah, no, shit, it wasn't funny, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about mental health and cast members being pushed

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<v Speaker 1>to the point of yeah, let's not go into that now,

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<v Speaker 1>but not everything will be funny. Okay, right over, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>glad I got that out of the way early. Back

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<v Speaker 1>on track now, Dave and Jamie. So, as we all

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<v Speaker 1>know by now because I've covered it in previous episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave and Jamie are no longer together in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>And although I'm unsure what happens at final vows between them,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the end of next week, I believe I

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<v Speaker 1>know for sure that they arrived separately at the reunion,

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<v Speaker 1>which has filmed three weeks after Final Vows, And as

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<v Speaker 1>I now try and figure out, well, why did this

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<v Speaker 1>split and whose choice it was when all of this

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<v Speaker 1>went down back in November, I want to fast forward

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<v Speaker 1>to present day and this week. According to Yahoo Lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday and their sneaky sauces, Dave and Jamie are now

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<v Speaker 1>at war behind the scenes, with zero chance of a

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<v Speaker 1>reconciliation between them ever being on the cards. One source

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<v Speaker 1>connected to the show told Yahu Dave has felt disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>at how Jamie has failed to defend him in all

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<v Speaker 1>her press interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been getting lately.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks she has been making the backlash he's had

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<v Speaker 1>even worse and just steering fans against him. Meanwhile, as

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<v Speaker 1>second source told Jahu, Jamie has been embarrassed by how

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<v Speaker 1>Dave has been hanging out with all of the has

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<v Speaker 1>been reality stars in Melbourne lately, posing for the paparazzi

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<v Speaker 1>and selling video messages and cameo. It just makes her

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<v Speaker 1>think more than ever that he wasn't a mass for

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<v Speaker 1>the right reasons, and she wants to distance herself completely

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<v Speaker 1>from him now. And if you're now wondering, well, is

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<v Speaker 1>that true? Can we ever believe these unnamed sources. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it is true. Yeah, because I've been told very

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<v Speaker 1>similar things. According to my little book of contacts, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm told. The go currently is between Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and Jamie at the start of the season, as the

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<v Speaker 1>show went to air, and despite them no longer being

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<v Speaker 1>together at this point, they basically made an agreement that

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<v Speaker 1>they will have each other's backs throughout this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll kind of keep up the facade for fans

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe they're still together, as are meant to do

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<v Speaker 1>what they rarely do. You know, they basically didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to spoil the show's ending for anybody, And that makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense because if you recall at the start this season,

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<v Speaker 1>they did like joint interviews together on the Today Show,

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<v Speaker 1>Today Extra, on like the Channel nine website, and they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kept up this thing that, oh, maybe Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and Jamie is still together in real life, and for

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<v Speaker 1>the first month or so of this show, erin that

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<v Speaker 1>little promise they're made to keep the piece and support

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<v Speaker 1>each other is very much what they did until the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative switched up on screen and Jamie then reliving Dave

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<v Speaker 1>pulling away and all that drama and her being quizzed

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<v Speaker 1>on all of that in interview after interview after interview

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<v Speaker 1>is where I'm told things got a little bit messy

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<v Speaker 1>between them, and also a little bit awkward for Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>because it's hard for her to answer these questions honestly

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<v Speaker 1>without sounding even a little bit negative towards Dave. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read a quote here when she was

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<v Speaker 1>recently asked about you know that whole time during the

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<v Speaker 1>experiment and Dave getting cozy with Veronica during that challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jamie this, at that moment in time, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe Dave was there for the right reasons because of.

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<v Speaker 2>What was shown to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I felt in that moment, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>understand how you could flip the script, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like to me in that moment, Dave's mask had

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<v Speaker 1>fallen off and I was essentially just his meal ticket

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<v Speaker 1>for something. Obviously, Jamie is saying there at that moment

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<v Speaker 1>in time in the quote, implying she no longer believes that,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's almost irrelevant because the headline on every website

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<v Speaker 1>was then Jamie doesn't think Dave was on Mass for

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<v Speaker 1>the right reasons. And it's only then as you read

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, and you'll find that bit in there

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<v Speaker 1>where she says, no, she fought that at that moment

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<v Speaker 1>in time. And as far as I'm told, it's things

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<v Speaker 1>like this which have kind of got today because of

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<v Speaker 1>just how it's sensationalized and how it looks upon a

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<v Speaker 1>quick glance to him, it just seems that Jamie is

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<v Speaker 1>just throwing him under the bus time and time again,

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<v Speaker 1>which I get, but sadly that's just how.

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<v Speaker 2>The media world works.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, like the Yahoo article said, on the flip

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<v Speaker 1>side of that, Jamie has then apparently been a bit

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<v Speaker 1>subs on how Davies already going to like these influencer

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<v Speaker 1>parties and being popped out there and you know, doing

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<v Speaker 1>the cameo things, which most fans believe confirms they're not

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<v Speaker 1>together anymore, as he wouldn't be out there doing that

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<v Speaker 1>if they were still in a relationship, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of this year's big hero couple.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, on Jamie's side, as far as I'm told,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, well, why am I skirting around all these

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<v Speaker 1>difficult questions and trying to stick to the script that

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<v Speaker 1>we may still be together when he's out there doing

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, which he's basically saying we're not still together.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, yeah, I suppose there's just no love lost

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<v Speaker 1>between them, as these little feelings of disdain or disappointment

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever have intensified over the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>which I suppose brings us to where we're at now,

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<v Speaker 1>where I don't believe they're talking very much anymore on

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<v Speaker 1>the subject of Jamie though, I'm also told, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I've touched on this before, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the cast kind of resent her because she's this year's

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<v Speaker 1>chosen one. And if you're in shore, what that means Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>every season Channel nine pick someone they believe is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like the fan favorite, and he'll be.

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<v Speaker 2>The most popular post show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he'll get the most followers, and they then

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<v Speaker 1>use them as the face of the season to an extent,

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<v Speaker 1>and they build them up to then make them Channel

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<v Speaker 1>nine talent like once the show ends, and they do

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<v Speaker 1>this by giving them like the most press opportunities, they

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<v Speaker 1>send them to the most events, and that chosen one

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<v Speaker 1>every year is basically promised the world, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>they're often the only one you won't see going rogue

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<v Speaker 1>because they know if they do go rogue, they won't

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<v Speaker 1>get the TV work or the podcast deal or the

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<v Speaker 1>spin off digital show that they've been promised by Channel nine.

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<v Speaker 1>And this resentment and rumors that Jamie was the chosen

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<v Speaker 1>one was all kind of confirmed last week when she

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<v Speaker 1>became the only cast member chosen by nine to be

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<v Speaker 1>sent over to New Zealand on a VIP trip to

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<v Speaker 1>promote the show over there. And according to Dally mel

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<v Speaker 1>last week, Jamie getting this trip left other cast members

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<v Speaker 1>jealous and livid as it confirmed what they'd all suspected

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<v Speaker 1>all along that she was indeed the chosen one and

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<v Speaker 1>getting what they believe is preferential treatment. In Daily Mail's

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<v Speaker 1>article last week, they quote one source of saying Jackie

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<v Speaker 1>was convinced that she was going to be the one

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<v Speaker 1>cent to New Zealand because she's a Kiwi. Another source

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<v Speaker 1>then revealed that Athena felt she might get the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>and some people felt she deserved the opportunity given her

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand heritage, but Athena was always convinced that it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be Jamie because she knows Jamie is

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<v Speaker 1>the star of the show. Also, remember that Athena and

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie are very tight. I'm very good friends, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Afena probably cares that much. But some of

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<v Speaker 1>this wider resentment towards Jamie even stems back to filming,

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<v Speaker 1>when several cast members nicknamed her the producer's pet, as

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<v Speaker 1>it was apparently clear back then that she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the main character and someone Channel nine had interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure if Dave feels resentment towards Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>like the others, but that's basically what is currently happening

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<v Speaker 1>out there between the wider cast. Some of them are

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<v Speaker 1>happy for Jamie, but most are a little jealous and

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<v Speaker 1>some are low ki just bitter, I'm told. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, good on Jamie, because take what you can

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<v Speaker 1>and if anyone else was the chosen one and being

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<v Speaker 1>offered more, they would take it too. Anyway, That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I've got for you today. Have a lovely day, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And sorry, yeah that Lovely's dead. Dave and Jamie over

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<v Speaker 1>not getting back together, not really speaking anymore,