Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Maths Funny Podcast with
Speaker 1: Me Joshua Fox. Last night, we watched Jamie get stood
Speaker 1: up by her Plan B groom as she agreed to
Speaker 1: go on a date with him and he never shown up.
Speaker 1: And if you thought that was sad, wait until you
Speaker 1: find out what is currently happening between her and Dave
Speaker 1: present day. Warning though, before you continue listening, there will
Speaker 1: be big spoilers in this so it is very much
Speaker 1: up to you if you wish to continue listening. And
Speaker 1: if you do wish to continue listening and don't like
Speaker 1: the spoiler, please don't then moan up me that I've
Speaker 1: ruined it for you. Because we're all adults, we can
Speaker 1: make this choice ourselves quickly. Though, before I get into
Speaker 1: all that, I just want to say thank you for
Speaker 1: the feedback on my chat with Elliott yesterday.
Speaker 2: Don't worry. I will still be doing the serious stuff
Speaker 2: and the investigation.
Speaker 1: On this podcast as well as like the usual dumb stuff,
Speaker 1: and the next episode of that will be later this week.
Speaker 1: And I did think while chatting with Elliott that I
Speaker 1: could really try and explain here why I'm doing that,
Speaker 1: why I'm pushing for changes, why I'm asking these uncomfortable questions,
Speaker 1: but it just didn't really feel like the time of
Speaker 1: the place, to be honest, Like, he's been through this
Speaker 1: whole machine now and he's feeling good and positive and
Speaker 1: he's kind of come out on the other side, which
Speaker 1: is great. And who am I to then try and
Speaker 1: make him see that things need to change and say
Speaker 1: all these bad things when that wasn't his personal experience,
Speaker 1: And you know, he was in a good mood, good energy,
Speaker 1: And I thought, why bring that down by, you know,
Speaker 1: taking it too serious. Not everything has to be that serious.
Speaker 1: That's kind of why I just laughed along at him, saying,
Speaker 1: make math funny funny again. And I do agree to
Speaker 1: an extent, maybe I should try to find a better
Speaker 1: balance of content. That being said, though, people do not
Speaker 1: have to take the title of this podcast so literally,
Speaker 1: maths Funny is just the name of a meme page
Speaker 1: I started six years ago.
Speaker 2: Obviously, that like page.
Speaker 1: Has grown into like a brand, you could say, like
Speaker 1: with a podcast now, which is why I've kept the name.
Speaker 2: But oh my god, every.
Speaker 1: Time I do something serious, people do not have to
Speaker 1: comment going, this wasn't funny, Yeah, no, shit, it wasn't funny, mate,
Speaker 1: we're talking about mental health and cast members being pushed
Speaker 1: to the point of yeah, let's not go into that now,
Speaker 1: but not everything will be funny. Okay, right over, Sorry,
Speaker 1: glad I got that out of the way early. Back
Speaker 1: on track now, Dave and Jamie. So, as we all
Speaker 1: know by now because I've covered it in previous episodes,
Speaker 1: Dave and Jamie are no longer together in real life.
Speaker 1: And although I'm unsure what happens at final vows between them,
Speaker 1: which is the end of next week, I believe I
Speaker 1: know for sure that they arrived separately at the reunion,
Speaker 1: which has filmed three weeks after Final Vows, And as
Speaker 1: I now try and figure out, well, why did this
Speaker 1: split and whose choice it was when all of this
Speaker 1: went down back in November, I want to fast forward
Speaker 1: to present day and this week. According to Yahoo Lifestyle
Speaker 1: yesterday and their sneaky sauces, Dave and Jamie are now
Speaker 1: at war behind the scenes, with zero chance of a
Speaker 1: reconciliation between them ever being on the cards. One source
Speaker 1: connected to the show told Yahu Dave has felt disappointed
Speaker 1: at how Jamie has failed to defend him in all
Speaker 1: her press interviews.
Speaker 2: She's been getting lately.
Speaker 1: He thinks she has been making the backlash he's had
Speaker 1: even worse and just steering fans against him. Meanwhile, as
Speaker 1: second source told Jahu, Jamie has been embarrassed by how
Speaker 1: Dave has been hanging out with all of the has
Speaker 1: been reality stars in Melbourne lately, posing for the paparazzi
Speaker 1: and selling video messages and cameo. It just makes her
Speaker 1: think more than ever that he wasn't a mass for
Speaker 1: the right reasons, and she wants to distance herself completely
Speaker 1: from him now. And if you're now wondering, well, is
Speaker 1: that true? Can we ever believe these unnamed sources. I
Speaker 1: believe it is true. Yeah, because I've been told very
Speaker 1: similar things. According to my little book of contacts, this
Speaker 1: is what I'm told. The go currently is between Dave
Speaker 1: and Jamie at the start of the season, as the
Speaker 1: show went to air, and despite them no longer being
Speaker 1: together at this point, they basically made an agreement that
Speaker 1: they will have each other's backs throughout this whole thing
Speaker 1: and they'll kind of keep up the facade for fans
Speaker 1: that maybe they're still together, as are meant to do
Speaker 1: what they rarely do. You know, they basically didn't want
Speaker 1: to spoil the show's ending for anybody, And that makes
Speaker 1: sense because if you recall at the start this season,
Speaker 1: they did like joint interviews together on the Today Show,
Speaker 1: Today Extra, on like the Channel nine website, and they
Speaker 1: kind of kept up this thing that, oh, maybe Dave
Speaker 1: and Jamie is still together in real life, and for
Speaker 1: the first month or so of this show, erin that
Speaker 1: little promise they're made to keep the piece and support
Speaker 1: each other is very much what they did until the
Speaker 1: narrative switched up on screen and Jamie then reliving Dave
Speaker 1: pulling away and all that drama and her being quizzed
Speaker 1: on all of that in interview after interview after interview
Speaker 1: is where I'm told things got a little bit messy
Speaker 1: between them, and also a little bit awkward for Jamie
Speaker 1: because it's hard for her to answer these questions honestly
Speaker 1: without sounding even a little bit negative towards Dave. For example,
Speaker 1: I'm going to read a quote here when she was
Speaker 1: recently asked about you know that whole time during the
Speaker 1: experiment and Dave getting cozy with Veronica during that challenge,
Speaker 1: and Jamie this, at that moment in time, I didn't
Speaker 1: believe Dave was there for the right reasons because of.
Speaker 2: What was shown to me.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt in that moment, because I didn't
Speaker 1: understand how you could flip the script, and it just
Speaker 1: felt like to me in that moment, Dave's mask had
Speaker 1: fallen off and I was essentially just his meal ticket
Speaker 1: for something. Obviously, Jamie is saying there at that moment
Speaker 1: in time in the quote, implying she no longer believes that,
Speaker 1: but that's almost irrelevant because the headline on every website
Speaker 1: was then Jamie doesn't think Dave was on Mass for
Speaker 1: the right reasons. And it's only then as you read
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and you'll find that bit in there
Speaker 1: where she says, no, she fought that at that moment
Speaker 1: in time. And as far as I'm told, it's things
Speaker 1: like this which have kind of got today because of
Speaker 1: just how it's sensationalized and how it looks upon a
Speaker 1: quick glance to him, it just seems that Jamie is
Speaker 1: just throwing him under the bus time and time again,
Speaker 1: which I get, but sadly that's just how.
Speaker 2: The media world works.
Speaker 1: And then, like the Yahoo article said, on the flip
Speaker 1: side of that, Jamie has then apparently been a bit
Speaker 1: subs on how Davies already going to like these influencer
Speaker 1: parties and being popped out there and you know, doing
Speaker 1: the cameo things, which most fans believe confirms they're not
Speaker 1: together anymore, as he wouldn't be out there doing that
Speaker 1: if they were still in a relationship, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 2: Part of this year's big hero couple.
Speaker 1: So yeah, on Jamie's side, as far as I'm told,
Speaker 1: she's like, well, why am I skirting around all these
Speaker 1: difficult questions and trying to stick to the script that
Speaker 1: we may still be together when he's out there doing
Speaker 1: things like that, which he's basically saying we're not still together.
Speaker 1: And now, yeah, I suppose there's just no love lost
Speaker 1: between them, as these little feelings of disdain or disappointment
Speaker 1: or whatever have intensified over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: which I suppose brings us to where we're at now,
Speaker 1: where I don't believe they're talking very much anymore on
Speaker 1: the subject of Jamie though, I'm also told, and I
Speaker 1: think I've touched on this before, but a lot of
Speaker 1: the cast kind of resent her because she's this year's
Speaker 1: chosen one. And if you're in shore, what that means Basically,
Speaker 1: every season Channel nine pick someone they believe is going
Speaker 1: to be like the fan favorite, and he'll be.
Speaker 2: The most popular post show.
Speaker 1: You know, he'll get the most followers, and they then
Speaker 1: use them as the face of the season to an extent,
Speaker 1: and they build them up to then make them Channel
Speaker 1: nine talent like once the show ends, and they do
Speaker 1: this by giving them like the most press opportunities, they
Speaker 1: send them to the most events, and that chosen one
Speaker 1: every year is basically promised the world, which is why
Speaker 1: they're often the only one you won't see going rogue
Speaker 1: because they know if they do go rogue, they won't
Speaker 1: get the TV work or the podcast deal or the
Speaker 1: spin off digital show that they've been promised by Channel nine.
Speaker 1: And this resentment and rumors that Jamie was the chosen
Speaker 1: one was all kind of confirmed last week when she
Speaker 1: became the only cast member chosen by nine to be
Speaker 1: sent over to New Zealand on a VIP trip to
Speaker 1: promote the show over there. And according to Dally mel
Speaker 1: last week, Jamie getting this trip left other cast members
Speaker 1: jealous and livid as it confirmed what they'd all suspected
Speaker 1: all along that she was indeed the chosen one and
Speaker 1: getting what they believe is preferential treatment. In Daily Mail's
Speaker 1: article last week, they quote one source of saying Jackie
Speaker 1: was convinced that she was going to be the one
Speaker 1: cent to New Zealand because she's a Kiwi. Another source
Speaker 1: then revealed that Athena felt she might get the opportunity,
Speaker 1: and some people felt she deserved the opportunity given her
Speaker 1: New Zealand heritage, but Athena was always convinced that it
Speaker 1: was going to be Jamie because she knows Jamie is
Speaker 1: the star of the show. Also, remember that Athena and
Speaker 1: Jamie are very tight. I'm very good friends, so I
Speaker 1: don't think Afena probably cares that much. But some of
Speaker 1: this wider resentment towards Jamie even stems back to filming,
Speaker 1: when several cast members nicknamed her the producer's pet, as
Speaker 1: it was apparently clear back then that she was going
Speaker 1: to be the main character and someone Channel nine had interesting.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if Dave feels resentment towards Jamie
Speaker 1: like the others, but that's basically what is currently happening
Speaker 1: out there between the wider cast. Some of them are
Speaker 1: happy for Jamie, but most are a little jealous and
Speaker 1: some are low ki just bitter, I'm told. But you
Speaker 1: know what, good on Jamie, because take what you can
Speaker 1: and if anyone else was the chosen one and being
Speaker 1: offered more, they would take it too. Anyway, That's all
Speaker 1: I've got for you today. Have a lovely day, everybody.
Speaker 1: And sorry, yeah that Lovely's dead. Dave and Jamie over
Speaker 1: not getting back together, not really speaking anymore,