WEBVTT - The U.S. Report | 7 November 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:08.119 This is the US Report with James Moroar. Good evening 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.160 and welcome to the program. Huge week in American politics. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:15.080 So here's what's coming up tonight. It's the shutdown sweeps, 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.239 But is MAGA about to give up on one of 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.959 its most powerful weapons just to bring the crisis to 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.720 a close. Plus Gavin Newsom tries to beat Trump at 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.280 his own game. Should Republicans be worried? For twenty twenty eight? 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.520 And she's out a here. World class stock picker Nancy 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:36.040 Pelosi is finally retiring. You're not gonna want to miss 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:40.440 Donald Trump's reaction. But first, well, allow me to join 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.040 all those who have offered up their congratulations to Zoron 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:48.360 Mom Donnie, the newly elected Democrat socialist mayor of New 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:53.720 York City, whom this program endorsed just last week, Because well, 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.680 if adults want to do dumb things, sometimes you just 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.920 have to let them do it and let them deal 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.880 with the consequences. And you know what, I'm not gonna 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:10.640 lie or sugarcoat it. Election Tuesday was a disaster for 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.680 the Republicans. It saw a bunch of big wins for Democrats, 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.120 not just in New York City but in other key 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:21.480 races in New Jersey, where Democrat Mikey Charrell knocked off 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:26.960 Republican challenger Rick Chittarelli, and in Virginia, where not only 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:31.880 did Democrat Abigail Spanberger beat Republican Winsome Earl Sears, but 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:37.520 where as well, Democrat Attorney General j Jones also beat 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:44.040 his Republican opponent, Jason Mayarez, despite his campaign being rocked 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.400 by text matches scandals, which revealed not only that Jones 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:54.320 once fantasized about murdering that's right, shooting dead Republican legislators, 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.920 but also appeared to celebrate the idea of their children 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:04.559 being killed too. So much for the politics of civility. Now, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.560 there's a lot of reasons why all this happened, including 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.720 a public servant heavy Virginia where there was a lot 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.600 of anger over the ongoing government's shutdown. But you know, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:19.240 the big story of the week remains this guy, Zorn Mamdanni, 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.519 the soon to be Democrat socialist mayor of New York, 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:27.519 who prevailed over Democrat turned independent Andrew Cuomo and Republican 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:32.519 candidate Curtis Sliwa. So at this point we really need 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.920 to look at what happened here who are these people 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.120 who actually voted for this guy? Why did they vote 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.560 for him? And has he cracked a formula that the 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:47.200 Democrats can use more broadly going into the midterms and 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:51.160 twenty twenty eight to prevail over Donald Trump and the 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:56.080 MAGA movement. And here's the biggie. Is New York City 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.480 now going to get its free buses, free childcare, captaints, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:04.120 defund police and lord knows what else Zoron has in 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.000 store for them. Well, first of all, to the question 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.200 of who voted him in, let's ask Zoron himself. This 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.000 is who Zoron mam Danmi says was behind his movement. 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:24.160 I speak of Yemeny bodega owners and Mexican abuelas, Senegalese 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:37.040 taxi drivers and usbeck nurses, Trinidadian line cooks and Ethiopian aunties, yes, aunties. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.400 Where were the Irish pub owners the French pastry chefs. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.800 I don't know. But notice one thing that he didn't 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.800 talk about at all. He didn't talk about, you know, 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.720 actual Americans. Because Zoron Mamdani is the face of the 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:55.120 new multicultural ethic of the left, one that spurns the 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:59.240 simulation in the old melting pot for a Hotel America 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:03.680 model where people define themselves by their individual ethnic identity, 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.960 not by their common americanness. And indeed, Mom Donnie's victory 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.560 goes to the heart of a much bigger problem, not 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.920 just of illegal migration, but also legal migration encouraged by 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.960 people who believe that you can bring people from very 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.640 different cultures in and they will automatically become lovers of 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.640 individualism and freedom and capitalism as soon as they set 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.839 foot on US soil or let's be frank, Australian soil 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.800 as well. Demographics is destiny, and as Mom Donnie's own 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.839 campaign videos suggest, well not so much. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:45.679 Thank you has got my citizen issues. Hey, congratulations for congratulations. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.800 So that's part of it. You know, you get your 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.520 citizenship you vote for Mom Donnie, and it is a 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:57.760 fundamentally reshaping of New York, a fundamentally reshaped New York 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.599 that helps push him over the line, because I mean 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.919 this is a shocks me. You know, imagine coming to 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.960 become a citizen of the greatest capitalist power in the 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.160 history of the world and voting for this guy who 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:14.760 opened his acceptance speech, his victory speech by quoting a 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:15.880 literal communist. 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:21.440 The sun may have set over our city this evening, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:29.159 but as Eugene Debs once said, I can see the 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.600 dawn of a better day for humanity. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.919 Oh how they cheered, Yes, Eugene Deb's the old communists. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.159 But I wonder what sort of people are also out 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:48.280 there falling for this? What did Joe Biden call it? Malarkey? 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.280 What's your favorite example of socialism? 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:51.799 That's the word. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.400 I don't have a big example of it of socialism. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.840 Between Venezuela, Cuba, Soviet Union. 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:01.799 What's your favorite one? 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.040 Man, you will go to spot. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:05.400 I'm gonna have to go Cuba. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.240 Ah ah, Man, I'm gonna have to go Cube, I'm 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:09.000 gonna have to go Cuba. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:09.320 Yeah. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.000 Yeah, let's go with it. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:12.200 It's just so complicated for me. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:13.920 I got so much information in my head, but I'm 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:14.520 gonna go with that. 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.839 You think Mandami's the future of the democratic parties? 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:17.719 I mean, I hope so. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.200 Oh yes, good old Cuba. Well, it wasn't just socialists 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.840 who voted for Bob Donnie, but he also has a 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.560 sport of full on communists as well. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:31.240 The grocery store capitalists, which have quite quite a powerful lobby, 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:32.960 right one of the grocery store bosses. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.960 He said, I think of Cristides. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.640 Right, He said that he was going to pull out 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:42.039 of New York City. If Zoron one right, we would say, sure, 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.800 pull out, and we will take over your grocery stores, right, 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.839 and we will use them for cheaper groceries, and we 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.440 will take over the entire food industry. Because that's that's 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.840 something that can be done if the working class is organized. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.360 Well. That has worked so well so many times in 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.360 the past. But let's beat some war voters like this 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:03.680 couple who look, you know, very educated and intelligent, but 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.360 clearly never studied economics. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.560 And what about the government run grocery stores? Do you 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.760 think that that's a model that could work. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.600 Yes, And I think there's too many hungry people and 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.640 too many potatoes here that are five dollars a pound. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.280 Are these people serious? Look? The really interesting thing about 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.040 all this is that for all of Zoron Mam Donnie's 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.080 claiming to be the mantle of the hero of the 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.600 ethnic working classes, it is the reasonably well off who 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:35.920 really were his biggest supporters. According to this Zenith Research 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.920 poll taken just before polling day, Mam Donnie's main opponent, 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:44.080 Andrew Cuomo, was relatively stronger with Native New Yorkers, low 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.600 income New Yorkers, and people who lived in public and 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:51.120 rent controlled units, But Mam Donnie did better with relatively 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.480 better with newcomers to the city i e. Transplants from 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.280 elsewhere in the US or the world, the well off 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.680 and market rate renters. This exit poll here also showed 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:06.559 Mom Donnie doing better with more educated voters. The more 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.240 education you've had, the more degrees you had, the more 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:13.080 likely you were to vote Zoron. But this here was 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.200 also a massive surprise to me. And there's a big 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.840 danger in this one here. So much for the idea 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.679 that young men are conservative and young women are Lefty's trope. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:28.000 This threw this away. This exit poll found that gen 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:32.520 Z women broke eighty four percent for Mom Donnie. Well, 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.439 that's huge, But it also found that gen Z young 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:42.040 men also voted sixty eight percent for Mom Donnie. That's 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:49.080 an overwhelming preponderance. So what's going on here. Well, there's 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.080 a lot of theories out there, and we are going 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.880 to canvass them during the next hour of the program. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.680 But let me suggest to you that New York has 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.720 always drawn people who were smart, ambitious and want to 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.880 be in whatever field is out there for them. Yet 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:08.199 the reality is, especially these days, there aren't enough prestige 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:13.239 jobs for every ambitious youngster, and the city is expensive 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:18.199 and life is frustrating, and sociologists call this phenomenon the 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.880 crisis of elite over production. And whenever this happens in society, 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:27.400 things get unstable, as they are now. And so when 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.680 a happy, talking, exotic fellow like Bamdani comes along, overruns 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.760 their social media, sells them hope and promises a free stuff. Well, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.960 of course they vote for him over people like the 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:43.960 sour pushed Andrew Cuomo or the raving Curtis Sliwa. Democrats 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.680 who think the free stuff mantra will play everywhere in 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.560 the country though, should as a result of this, think 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:54.000 twice because the rest of America is very different to 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:58.560 New York City. And it's funny. Donald Trump is from 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.000 New York and his opponent just won the mayoralty there 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.600 because his hometown rejected him. Yet the country turned out 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.640 on mass to give Trump a second term last year. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.480 So Mom Donnie may Bee popular in New York, but frankly, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:17.000 I doubt his brand of upbeat ethnic socialism will ever 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:23.920 play in Peoria. Well, let's bring in my first guest 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.400 tonight here. Joining me now you know him well is 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.080 former White House Chief of Staff and senior advisor of 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.880 Bondai Partners, Mick mulvady. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:31.560 Nick. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.439 Thanks for coming on after this very big week in 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.440 American politics. I want to start off talking about New 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.720 York zoron Mom, Donnie, and I'll get your reaction to that, 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.599 but also in the context of other races where Democrats 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:50.520 did quite well this week, particularly in Virginia and New Jersey. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.480 And I'm wondering how much of this is due to 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.640 an anti Trump effect, or how much of this is 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.640 because Trump wasn't out there so much in some of 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.560 these races, particularly Virginia and New Jersey. Tell us your take. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.840 You know, James, they say, every time there's a plane 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.360 crash or a train wreck, fourteen or fifteen things have 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.760 to go wrong. And all of those things went wrong 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.120 for the Republicans this week. Trump wasn't on the ticket, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.000 his base wasn't motivated. The Democrats were motivated against him. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.319 They had some decent candidates, we had some bad candidates. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.000 Everything came together and it was really quite surprising. Though 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.360 at the end of the day, keep in mind that 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.120 Republicans we didn't really expect to win a lot of 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:34.080 these races. We thought we might win the attorney general's 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.560 race in Virginia. We maybe thought we had a chance 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.480 in the New Jersey governor's race. In the New Jersey 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.000 governors race, we lost by thirteen points. That's not close. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.280 That's a shellacking. That's an old fashioned butt kicking, and 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.760 it's hard to spin it any other way. Clearly, the 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.520 Democrats have taken control of the issue of affordability, inflation, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.040 the cost of living, and they worked that to their advantage. Now, 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.720 granted it came to fruition and different. You had very 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:05.160 moderate centrist candidates running in Virginia and New Jersey and 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.959 an avowed socialist running in New York City. So I 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:09.760 think it's sort of hard to figure out where the 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.480 Democrat Party is going still, But you have to give 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.240 him credit. They won the week, and they won it big. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.240 Well, they won the week, and you know, as I 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.480 said earlier in the program, this really does foreshadow of 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.719 still a big split within the Democrats. But which way 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.640 they're going to go? The progressive mom Donny way, or 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.199 a more establishment way. But on Virginia in particular, how 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.080 much was that government shut down driving votes for the 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.640 Democrats in Virginia, which has a large in the north 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.480 population connected to Washington, d C. And the government because 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.880 you had those horrific texts and phone messages from Jay Jones, 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:52.640 and even he still won as Attorney General having fantasized 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.880 about the death of Republican opponents and even their kids. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.200 Yeah, I mean stopping please allow that to sink in 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.720 that that Virginia just elected somebody who wanted to shoot 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:06.320 his opponent's children. I mean, that's where the party is 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.080 right now. But to your question about the shutdown, look, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.280 if it's going to have an impact anywhere, it would 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.640 be in the state of Virginia. But still I think 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.160 even without the shutdown the results are probably about the same. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.520 Keep in mind, these are federal workers, whether not they're 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.960 at work or they're not at work. They just don't 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.560 like Donald Trump. That is the deep state for the 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.880 most part. They haven't liked him since twenty sixteen. They're 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:28.800 not going to start to like him right now. I 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.680 don't think it's possible for them to like him any less. 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.880 So in the shutdown probably played a very very minor 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.480 role in Virginia. I don't think he played a role 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:42.000 at all in New York City or in the state 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.240 of New Jersey. The media here will try to make 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.800 it now a loss for Trump because of the shutdown, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.680 to put pressure on him to reopen the government and 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.480 give in to the Democrats on Obamacare. But I certainly 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.720 hope the Republicans aren't reading too much into the connection 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.640 between the outcomes of the election and the shutdown. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.600 Well, just on the show Shutdown, I've been very curious 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.520 to watch how this shutdown has played played, because normally 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.280 these things go very well for the Democrats. But I 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.720 was very interesting to see what Frank Luntz had to 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.440 say on CNN. Have a look at this. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.560 Everyone is being hurt by this, everyone's credibility and respect 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.440 and looking at the government, and the public just looks 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:26.200 at this and says, why why can't you find some agreement? 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:27.680 Why can't you give it? 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:28.240 Can you? 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:29.520 Why can't you cooperate? 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.880 It is hurting the Republicans, but it seems to be 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.680 hurting the Democrats even more. 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.920 And this week we are going to have air traffic 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.760 control dialed back by ten percent. Air flights doed back 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.000 by ten percent of major airports. This is really going 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.640 to start to bite once you start to cut flights 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.280 and things like that. People going to feel this. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.960 Now they are, And Frank has a good friend, has 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:55.520 been for a long time, and he and I've had 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:59.800 this conversation many times. He's right, but he's not exactly right. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.240 The public is upset, and that's true, but the public 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.320 doesn't vote keep him on. The turnout here was extraordinarily low. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.280 So a lot of the people that Frank is talking 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.280 to say that you don't like either party. You know, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.840 they're upset with the way Washington is being run. Those 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:14.800 generally are not the people that show up in these 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.040 off year elections. It's the base that votes the really 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.080 hardcore right and the hardcore left. It's sort of in 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.800 that sense than James, like a primary election. Not exactly 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.000 the same, but it certain trends that way. And I 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.520 got to tell you, the Democrats think they're winning the shutdown. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.120 Republicans think they're winning the shutdown. That's why I just 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.240 don't think the shutdown, to counter to what Frank would suggest, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.280 had much of anything to do with his outcome here. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.840 Yeah, No, I think you're probably right there. But just 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:43.320 you know, moving forward with the shutdown, you've got other 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:48.160 issues as well. You've got the filibuster and the people 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.680 saying that maybe Donald Trump should end this filibuster rule around, 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.920 you know, the vote to get the government moving again. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.240 Explain to our friends here in Australia who may not 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.200 be across the ins and outs, what this word means 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.440 and why it's so important for getting the government funded again. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.320 Yeah, it's important for a lot of different things. It's 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.360 essentially a rule that requires any piece of legislation, with 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.800 certain exceptions, any piece of legislation in the. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:12.200 Senate to. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:17.520 Obtain sixty votes. So less a party has sixty votes, 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.720 it means that anything coming out of the Senate needs 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.520 to be bipartisan. It's non constitutional, by the way. In fact, 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.320 it's not even that old. The current filibuster rule was 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.440 created in the nineteen seventies. It used to be that 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.240 a senator had to talk in order to filibuster or 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.600 prevent a vote. That's the old movie if you're familiar 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.000 with it down there called mister Smith goes to Washington 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.200 with Jimmy Stewart. But that rule change the nineteen seventies 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.360 and essentially senators can now just tell everybody that they 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.080 would talk about it. That constitutes of philibuster, and it 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.600 essentially means that every vote needs sixty votes. Trump doesn't 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.560 like it. I don't like it. There's a lot of 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.400 folks who in the Senate who do like it. Here's 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.400 the critical part, though, James, to your point, Trump can't 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.280 change it. Trump cannot change it, has no authority whatsoever 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.400 to change it. This is an internal rule of the Senate. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.280 The Senate itself has to agree to change this, and 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.600 we tried to put pressure on them in the first 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.520 term to get to get the filibuster to allow us 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.879 to redo Obamacare. We've tried again now to try to 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.920 allow us to reopen the government, and the Senate in 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.239 many ways cares a lot more about that filibuster than 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:19.760 a lot of other things. So I don't think the 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.000 philibuster rule is going to change, and that's certainly not 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.040 going to solve the problem we have today with the shutdown. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.400 But strategically speaking, though, I mean, there could be some 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.199 time in the future when the Democrats have a small 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.080 majority in the Senate, and if you got rid of 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.679 that rule now, then Republicans would lose a big handbreak 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.440 in the future on you know, whatever radical things they 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:40.080 wanted to try. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.760 Yeah, that's certainly the argument, and I can see that argument. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.320 My response to that, Believe me, I've had this conversation 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.560 right as chief of staff with Richard McConnell, with dozens 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.199 of Republican senators. They're like, look, meck, you know, we 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.520 need this for the day the Democrats take over. I'm like, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.560 you know, the day the Democrats take over. It strikes 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.399 me that that's what the voters wanted. What you folks 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.000 are really doing in the Senate is ing the voters 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.840 from having a say in how their country is run. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:09.199 They could elect fifty nine Republican senators and still not 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.840 have the ability to pass legislation without having it be bipartisan. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.240 I'm not sure that's what the founders wanted. If the 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.200 Founders had wanted that, they would have put the filibuster 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.160 rule in the Constitution. But they didn't. And again, there's 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.440 other sort of breaks against an overreaching Senate, which would 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.480 be to go back to that rule about just having 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.760 the ability to speak a filibuster to actually talk and 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.800 stop things that way, as opposed to just putting your 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.159 name on a piece of paper and going off to 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.520 a fundraiser. Believe me, as a man, as a member 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.679 of the former Member of the House Representatives, I'm not 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.760 a big fan of the filibuster, and I wish it 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.199 would go away, but I think it's mostly academic at 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.080 this point. There's no interest, I think, in the Senate 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:47.840 right now to change the philibuster rules. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.760 But Mick, you may very well have changed my mind 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.600 on the filibuster. It's so fascinating with US politics, how 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.320 these debates can echo back for two hundred and fifty years. 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.840 Mick mulvaney, thank you so much for your time. As always, 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.680 I says, all right, well, let's go to New York 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.320 City now. Joining me now is the New York Posts 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:08.720 editor at large, Kelly Jane Towards. Kelly, thanks for joining me. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.439 You are on the front lines. 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:10.640 Here. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.560 We are two days now removed from Zeron Mam Donnie 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.240 being elected as New York City's mayor elected. I loved 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:21.400 the front page of your paper on his win, on 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:25.680 your marks, get set Zoe, socialist mom. Donnie wins the 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:30.280 race for the Red Apple. Kelly Jane Towards, is it 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.119 really going to be as bad as all that. 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.800 Yes, I think it might be. Jane's I hate to 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.520 be a downer, you know, but you know, I have 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.119 to say. I mean half of New York is feeling 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.560 very down right now. And in fact, I mean I'm 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:54.160 hearing constantly every day multiple Jewish New Yorker friends and 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:59.520 colleagues and everywhere. It's just they're very worried because Zone 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:03.640 Donni you know, has you know not he refused to 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:08.960 denounce globalizing in infactata, which is basically an anti Semitic 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.760 slogan about you know, murdering his ranglis, and so there 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.119 were not just him and what he'll do, but what 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.320 he might unleash. 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:19.159 You know, there's going to be. 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.440 Since October seventh, we've seen anti semitism in the city 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.040 Skyrocket and it shocked me. It really did, James, and 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.440 we're gonna you know, that was after Israel suffered this massacre, 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.119 and so it's gotten bad. And I think someone like 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:37.439 him being elected is sending a message that we're going 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:42.000 to tolerate that kind of attitude, that kind of talk, 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:46.480 and you can actually win election in the biggest city 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.960 in America with that kind of talk. 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:51.800 Well, and not only that kind of talk, but also, 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.120 you know, all of the socialist economics, the free buses, 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:59.840 the rent caps, the government run grocery stores and a 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.439 your paper, Mondani has said, I am also looking to 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.879 be clear about the mandate that we won over the 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.600 course of this election, and it is a mandate to 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.800 deliver on the agenda that we ran on. Your paper 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.600 has just reported his remarks there doesn't sound like he's 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.480 going to moderate after this election. And I tell you what, 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.560 having lived through other mayors like David Dinkins and Bill 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:27.159 de Blasio, this sort of stuff has real consequence on 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:27.800 the streets. 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.720 You are correct, James, and that's why a lot of 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:36.440 us are very worried about, you know, how what's our 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:37.919 life going to look like, how are we going to 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:38.760 afford things? 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:39.000 What? 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.000 How safe are we going to feel? And in fact, 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:45.160 you know, when he gave his victory speech, he actually 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.240 sounded even less moderate than he did on the campaign chroll, 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:49.879 and I wasn't sure that was possible. 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:50.800 James. 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.199 It's incredible, you know, it's amazing. I was talking to 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.640 you know, people you know, at events, parties in Brooklyn, 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.439 that kind of thing, and you know, I'm in I 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.399 was at in Brooklyn the weekend after the Democratic primary, 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.000 and one, you know, one woman there who was you know, 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:09.280 i'd say, in her fifties, very educated, said she voted 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.399 for him, and when asked why, because everybody else was 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:16.520