1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fear and Greed Business Interview. I'm Suan Almer. 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Volkswagen is a global car giant operating in a rapidly 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: changing world as technology evolves, new competitors emerged, and global 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: trade changes. Volkswagen has set itself a goal over the 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: next decade of being the driver of global automotive tech 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: and a key part of this is, of course electric vehicles. 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Volkswagen is a great supporter of Fear and Greed and 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I've had the pleasure of driving one of the new 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: vehicles for a couple of weeks to see what it's like. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: David Tanzy, product manager of Volkswagen Group Australia. David, welcome 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: back to Fear and Greed. 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: At a very high level, what's the global vision and 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: how do evs electric vehicles fit into it. 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: So the global vision, I guess for Volkswagen is we 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: really want to be at the forefront of electric vehicles. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: We want to make sure we bring the best products 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: that we can for customers and talking on a local level, 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: we really just kind of want to make sure that 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: that is the key thing that we want to do. 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: As roubles in Australia we want to package an EV 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: at the right price with the right spec for our customers, 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: and that's definitely can be seen with the recent IEY 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Form five that we just launched priced under fifty sixty 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: thousand rp. 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: Okay, does Volkswagen want to ultimately be primarily an EV 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: and I'm not talking this year or next year, but 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: longer term? Is it about being an EV company as 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: much as a nice and internal combustion engine company. 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have Volkswagen there is a future where 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: we do see EV's definitely being part of the majority of 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: our portfolio. But we do we really make sure that 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: the products that are brought to Australia, especially EV's in 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: the future, for example, that they are definitely price correctly 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: and have the right tech and the right range and 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: the whole package that's needed. 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, do you think pricing will They're not expensive cars, 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest, but they're not cheap cars either. 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Do you think there will increasingly be cheaper evs in 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the future. 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so as years go on, you know, costs for 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: for let's say, tech or batteries and stuff like that, 43 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: we'll definitely see a positive change in there. But yeah, 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: in the future. That's definitely something that hopefully will be 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: the case. So that you know, for Volkswagen, we can 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 2: bring the right cars the right price, right, so that, yeah, 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: we can do well in Australia. 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, say, talking about the right cars, you're launching the 49 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: ID for Pro, the ID five GTX here in Australia. 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Were do I mean, I've been driving an ID for 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: proyor right. It's just fun. Yeah, Like at the end 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: of the day, I'm not a car guy, so I 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: can't tell you, but I get in. It sticks to 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: the right, acceleration is great, and it's fun. That's kind 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: of the best way I can describe driving it. And 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: I know Michael Thompson, my co host, he's been d 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: in the ID five g t X. He's guyting to 58 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: me about how much you love that car. Where do 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: they fit in Volkswagen's existing vehicle portfolio now. 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the VOLKSAG ninety four and five. We're very 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: proud of this product. It is the first electric vehicle 62 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: that we've I guess in the SUV segment that we're 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: bringing to Australia. So yeah, it's a long I guess 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: a wait, a really long awaited time that we really 65 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: wanted to bring this car in and yeah, it fits 66 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: really nicely between let's say, really well with the tig 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: One for example, which is our ice car. But this 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: is a BEV I guess alternative, like as you as 69 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: you can, as you can. 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Say, what are you hoping for in terms of not 71 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: all sales, but like what do you want people to 72 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: think about it when they go for a driving it. 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely fun, right, definitely comfy and very livable. That's 74 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 2: that's the main, I guess, key thing that we want 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: to say. It's it's the main message we want to say. 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: It's it's still a Volkswagon, but it happens to be electric. 77 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: So that's that's that's the concept that we want to see, right. So, yeah, 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: the quality is built in Germany, has great tech, has 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: great quality, and that's that's that's the key element that 80 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: we want to strive for. 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting you say that it's still a Volkswagen, 82 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: so you're not the only manufacturer. We say the same thing. 83 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: And the thing about I mean, the one I'm driving 84 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: it is still a Volkswagen. It still looks like Volkswagen. 85 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: Still it doesn't quite have the same sound of some 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: of the older Volkswagen. To be perfectly honest, it'll look 87 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: quite yeah, yeah, yeah, but that whole sense that it 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: is still a Volkswagen is important. 89 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, one hundred percent is important because that's what 90 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: our customers are are really I guess looking for, right 91 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: They want that brand identity, they want a Volkswagen, and 92 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: this has come into play. That's that's what we want 93 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: to give you. And we're going to make it even 94 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: more exciting making an electric vehicle, making it progressive and 95 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: futuristic and fun at the same time. 96 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so in terms, it's all right for me to 97 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: talk about how much I love driving the car, right, 98 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, it's someone going 99 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: to buy it. I like the idea that you've established 100 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: partnerships such as with Ampoles to support customers switching to evs. 101 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: Tell us how that Ampole one works and if there 102 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: are any others in the offering. 103 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we do have a partnership with Ampole, and 104 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: I guess the main thing is they're one of the 105 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: largest in the country, right, So yeah, at this stage, 106 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: how we've partnered with them to actually do for our 107 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: first cars that arrived in Australia, we did a charging offer, 108 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: so a charge offer where one of the first customers 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: are able to receive a standard installation and also a 110 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: charger included with the car for frend. So yeah, that's 111 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: kind of one of the I guess key things that 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: we've already done and that's incentivizing I guess all the 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: customers who really want one to get even more value 114 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: from there. 115 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, and his partnership's kind of one 116 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: of your sales methods going forward. 117 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: Partnerships. We definitely are open and we do look to 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: make sure that what we offer to the customers something 119 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: that is very valuable and that's something that we see 120 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: in Airpole and yeah, and as they grow their their 121 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: am charge network, it's just going to make it a 122 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: lot more easy and accessible for Volkslangen. 123 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: Customers the Australian market. I'm interested in how you see 124 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: Volkswagen's EV sitting in the market because it is a 125 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: crowded market and there are many many Chinese manufacturers coming 126 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: into Australia which we never hear before in the IC market. 127 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Where does Volkswagen fit in all this? 128 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Volkswagen, we want to be still the I 129 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: guess the mass premium manufacturer, we still want to provide 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: really quality vehicles. And yeah, like you said, it's a 131 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: very competitive market at the moment, and that's the key 132 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: thing is we need to make sure that we package 133 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: and respect the right cars at the right price to 134 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: make sure that it becomes it still states competitive. So yeah, 135 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: that's I guess one of the key things that we 136 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: really need to focus on as we as we go 137 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: into the future. 138 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: And do you get a sense that the Australian market 139 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: is particularly different to other markets, be they German or 140 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Asian markets? 141 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so in Australia it is. Australian buyers are very 142 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: are very let's say, they're very unique in a sense 143 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: where we ben Yeah, yeah, you know, we Austrained buyers 144 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: are very unique in a sense where they actually want 145 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: value and they want a really nicely spect car for 146 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: a good price. And normally, let's say in other markets, 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: let's say for this German market, they're they're very I 148 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: guess independent in terms of how they structure their their 149 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: portfolio and how they spect the cars. Right, But in 150 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: Australia we need to make sure that everything is aligned 151 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: perfectly in terms of specting price. 152 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: So when you talk about specs in the voles made 153 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: in evs, what are the things that you've got that 154 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: Australians really want. 155 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so ID four pro right, the Intravenant in our 156 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: id range is really really well inspect is one of 157 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: the most competitive in the market. We've got a large 158 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: battery eighty two killer what our we've got Matrix LD's 159 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: massage seats, you've got a glass roof, panoramic glass roof. Right, 160 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: you've got a massive screen top point nineteen screen. So 161 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: it's very highly spect and at a price of under 162 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: sixty k RP that there is value. So that's that's 163 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: the thing. Right, So I think a lot of customers go, hey, 164 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: that car. It's once they test drive it, for example, 165 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: they'll they'll see the value in the car. Yeah, there's 166 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of great specs in ninety 167 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: ninety range at the moment. 168 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing I really noticed about I mean, I 169 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: said it was said, it's a fun car, but it's big. 170 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: The interior is big, and I think that's an EV thing. 171 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: It's not just a Volkswagen. 172 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 173 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: Once you get in, there's so much room. 174 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's plenty of room. So in the rear seats, 175 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: for example, you can see three people real comfy right 176 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: because for example, the battery is it's the bottom of 177 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: the car, so that battery system is at the bottom, 178 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: which which in turns make the car very stable when 179 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: you're driving. And there's no transmission tunnel, so there's a 180 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: flat floor in the back. So everyone's comfy with their 181 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: with their sharing the room in terms of their feet 182 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: and everything. 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: So my boys piece, So I have two boys who 184 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: are six foot seven and they actually have to they're 185 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: wary when they're get into cars because of the headroom 186 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: and they've got gaps between their head and the roof, 187 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: which they love. And if my kids are happy, David, 188 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm happy exactly. So final question with the future of 189 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: EVS and the future Volkswagon in Australia. 190 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so future in Volkswagen in Australia and EVS, we 191 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: definitely want to make sure that we bring the cars 192 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: that Germany do offer as best we can, and you know, 193 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 2: whatever products that's globally released in Germany will all evaluate 194 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: and make sure that if it's viable for our market, 195 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: we'll want it. So that's the main thing. So yeah, 196 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: seeing all the new cars coming out from Volkswagen. Let's say, 197 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: for example, the ID DOT, every idea, every one, it's 198 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: called concept. It's the concept of having a very let's say, 199 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: price pointed and affordable electric mobility solution. Right. So the 200 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: globally they're really pushing that and if we can in 201 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: the future have something like that in Australia, we're all 202 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: We're all for it. 203 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Fantastic David, thank you for talking to Fear and Greed. 204 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: Awesome, Thanks, thanks so much. 205 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: That is David Tanned, product manager at Volkswagen Group Australia. 206 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: A supporter of this podcast. This is the Fear and 207 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Greed Business Interview. 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