WEBVTT - Sharri | 31 October 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.680 Live on Sky News. This is Sharry. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:08.600 Good Evening. Welcome to the show. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.360 Tonight a major sit down interview with former British Prime 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.799 Minister Boris Johnson. He opens up about Donald Trump. He 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:21.040 also reveals his final conversation with the Queen, just two 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.479 days before she passed away. He speaks about the wave 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:30.480 of anti Semitism globally and reveals the truth about exactly. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:31.360 How many children he has. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.040 He says he's had many kids because we're in a 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:36.720 demographic deficit. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:37.919 Well that's his excuse. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.440 He also talks about his secret mission to stop Prince 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.520 Harry from leaving the UK. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.720 I failed to avert megsit, I take it, but I 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:48.680 did deliver Brexit. 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.519 He's got strong ideas, he's entertaining and very funny. That 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.280 major interview coming up. But first to the US election. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.600 We're just days away from this his election, and the 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:06.040 result matters here in Australia arguably just as much. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:07.679 As who our own prime minister is. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:13.040 American leadership is critical to the inflation fight and cost 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:17.679 of living, to national security, support for Israel, dealing with 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:22.280 the threat of China and Orcus. We don't have a vote, 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.880 but it matters and here's how the polls are looking. 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.600 Trump is ahead in all but two of the battleground states. 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:36.479 According to Real Clear polling. Trump's ahead in Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:41.920 North Carolina, and Georgia, while Cormala is ahead in Wisconsin 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:47.000 and Michigan. The New York Times reports that never before 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:52.040 in modern presidential campaigns have so many states been so 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.280 tight this close to election date, And now that Trump 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.080 appears to be edging ahead in the polls. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.720 The campaign is getting uglier. The New York. 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:08.639 Times reports top Democratic top Democratic strategists are increasingly hopeful 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.720 that the campaign's attempts to cast former President Donald J. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.280 Trump as a fascist will carry Miss Harris to a 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:21.680 narrow triumph. So this is a very deliberate decision to 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.960 go negative and go nasty, a deliberate strategy to paint 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:30.760 Trump as a dictator. This is what's happening behind the 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:35.440 scenes in the Harris camp. But publicly, Kamala is pledging 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.560 unity for all Americans. But Joe Biden let the truth 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:44.040 out this week when he called Trump supporters garbage. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.960 Only garbage I see floating down there is his orders. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.640 Seizing on the comments Trump today turned up in a 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.760 garbage truck in the swing state of Wisconsin. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.560 That's like deplorable Ville. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:02:59.920 This is the deplorable b. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.760 Hillary, and I think this is worse. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:08.280 Actually, you can't lead America if you don't love Americans. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:09.240 It's true. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.840 You can't be president if you hate the American people, 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:18.239 which I believe they do. 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.920 Such a strong line there from Donald Trump, and you 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.400 could be forgiven for thinking that. Well, perhaps Joe Biden 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.960 doesn't want Kamala to win, and who could blame him? 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.320 He was falced out of the race to the Oval office. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:38.160 Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama made it clear that he 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:38.840 had to go. 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:40.680 They were the ones. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:44.840 With the real power, not Potus. And in the crucial 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:49.480 final days, well Biden certainly not helping Kamala's chance of winning. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.440 She's trying to portray a picture of unity. She claims 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.520 that Trump wants to put Democrats in jail, and she 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.360 insists that she'll do the opposite, that she'll give Republickins 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:01.680 a seat at the table. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.760 Unlike Donald Trump. I don't believe people who disagree with 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.880 me are the enemy. He wants to put them in jail, 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.080 I'll give them a seat at the table. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.200 Yeah, but the only political prisoners in America have been 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:26.440 Trump supporters. Former Trump trade advisor Pete Navarro has been jailed, 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.680 so is former Trump strategist Steve Bannon, and he just 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.920 got out yesterday, just in time to energize his base 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:36.960 in the week before polling day. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:42.640 And Nancy Pelosi thought a federal prison was going to 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.320 break me, well, it empowered me. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:51.080 The Democrats also bought, brought civil and criminal cases against 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.240 Trump to try and stop him from becoming president. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:55.840 They wanted him in. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.680 The jail house, not the White House. Even Biden has 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.159 said Trump should be locked up. Yet another home truth 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:04.200 that slipped out. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.760 I said this five years ago. You'd like me up, 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:09.960 We're gonna like him up. 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:16.200 The Democrats accused Trump of subverting democracy, but isn't trying 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:20.159 to throw a candidate in jail precisely the same thing. 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:25.480 As president For four years, Trump didn't imprison his appointments. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.799 Boris Johnson's view, and I spoke to him a bit earlier. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.839 He said that this is all very deliberate. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:37.440 My impression of them is that they were essentially trying 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:42.279 to deprive the people of the opportunity of voting on 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.400 Donald Trump. And it was a kind of lawfare designed 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:47.760 to take out a candidate. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.080 That interview coming up on the show, and Boris Johnson 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.000 also shares his view on how Trump would handle the 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.840 dictators who are collaborating and conspiring to weaken the West. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.760 We're not living in a time of peace. Israel fighting 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:09.960 for its survival. Social cohesion in Western societies is breaking down. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:15.080 Russia still on the attack against Ukraine and China preparing 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:20.279 for war. Inflation meanwhile, remains a global problem. But with 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.560 so much at stake, the. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.080 Next leader of the free world matters. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.480 In fact, you could argue there's rarely been a time 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:34.720 in history when leadership is of such critical importance. Our 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:44.000 enemies are emboldened and we need strength to stop their advance. Okay, 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.120 My major interview with Boris Johnson coming up a bit 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.359 later in the show after the break. He speaks about 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.240 Donald Trump, his final conversation with the Queen just two 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.479 days before she passes away. He tells me what she says, 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.880 why Emmanuel Macron doesn't like his dog, exactly how many 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.880 children he has, and he also condemns the waive of 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:05.920 anti Semitism sweeping the globe. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.640 That's coming up But now let's. 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.559 Bring in National Senator Matt Canavan and Sky News host 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:11.600 Steve Price. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.000 Great to see you both. 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:17.080 Steve, do you think those Biden comments basically calling half 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.240 of American's garbage could move votes in Trump's direction? 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.120 You'd have to think if anyone was undecided, that would 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.320 I mean, it was the Hillary Clinton moment, wasn't it. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.000 And you can imagine being in the back office of 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.720 Kamala Harris's campaign and they've got the television on in 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.080 the corner and they see Joe Biden come out with 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.320 that stuff and called Trump supporters garbage. 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.040 I mean, it's just no. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.080 Wonder she's hidden him away and didn't want him on 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.160 the campaign trail at all. And Donald Trump, to his credit, 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.120 he goes and hires a garbage truck some made of his, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.480 puts a sticker on it saying Donald Trump's garbo truck. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.760 He puts on a high vi his vest, and he's 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.720 just a genius at doing those sorts of things. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.240 Yeah, and there does seem to be more reporting of 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:05.480 frosty relations between the Harris campaign and the Biden team. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.120 Matt Canavan, you follow us politics very closely. I want 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.720 to get your sense of how this election is headed, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.640 and whether you think those comments from Biden could make 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.960 much of a difference in these final days, Well, I think. 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.520 Trump was already ahead. That's definitely what the prediction markets, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.800 the betting markets think. He's never polled anywhere like where 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.880 he is at the moment. He's leading in most swing 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.160 states on the pole of polls if you like, He's 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.200 never been there. Even when he won in sixteen, he 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.480 was behind by quite a distance to Hillary Clinton. So 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.200 you would think everything is going his way. And as 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:45.559 Steve said, this is just unbelievably poor timing for the 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:49.120 Harris campaign. Not only the remarks themselves will have an 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.360 impact and help Trump get his base out, get his 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.520 vote out, they also happened at the same time that 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.920 Kamala Harris was doing her perhaps largest speech to go 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.800 for the campaign and the Washington lips there, and it 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.960 was a big set piece, and that's been all swamped 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:10.160 by both Biden's comments and then Trump's remarkable ability to 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.560 capture the news cycle. I did just want to point out, though, Sharhi, 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.800 that you know, I'm a little miffed he has ripped 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.640 off my stick of wearing high vis I think this 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.160 election tactic. 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.199 But I'm happy for him, happy. 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:26.360 Sure about that. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.960 I feel like every second politician is wearing high viz 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.920 Matt Canavanjelsic start, Matt, I just want to do a 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.000 quick follow up question with you. I mean, I've interviewed 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.800 Steve Bannon a couple of times before, I've been on 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.200 his show many more times, so of you, He's just 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.239 got out of prison less than a week. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:47.480 Before polding Day. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.040 What do you think the impact is going to be 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:54.440 now of you know, this high profile figure literally jailed 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.320 for contempt for not, you know, betraying Donald Trump. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:09:59.960 But how do you think this is going to play out? 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.480 Look, it's probably not going to have a big impact 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:07.360 on the overall race because most Americans, I'm sure, are 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.080 pretty busy with their own lives to know who is 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.440 or follow closely Steve Bannon. It probably has a little 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.079 bit of impact on the margins. He's got a very 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.520 big following among the base, so to speak. Now all 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.200 of his viewers probably already of course voting for Trump, 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.200 but he's released will perhaps motivate them to get more 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.920 of their friends and colleagues to the polls, who are 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.400 probably more likely to vote Republicans. 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:29.480 So it probably helps a little bit. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.720 And look, it also of course undermines the rhetoric from 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:40.200 the Democrats that somehow Donald Trump represents a unique risk 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.959 to democratic norms. I think they call them democratic norms 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:46.480 in America when the only people that have been really 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.839 locked up for their political views or activities in recent 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.360 years have been done so by democratic administrations. I think 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.960 it was a travesty of justice that Steve Bannon was 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.920 jailed by what was a kangaroo court of a congressional 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.200 commit He had no representatives from the Senate leader, sorry, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.320 the House leadership of the Republicans, and they charged him 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:07.839 with a contempt and put him away for four months 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:08.960 just during the campaign too. 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:10.520 Agree, Agree? 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.040 Extraordinary who was locked up for four months? All right, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.480 let's look at the Quantus Albanizi upgrade scandal. Now he's 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.600 been in hiding for the second day in a row. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.800 I reported last night that the former Group Executive for 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:27.000 Government and International Affairs at Quantas, Andrew Parker, often handled 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.480 Albanesi's flight upgrades. I also told you last night about 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:35.760 their close personal relationship, where Albanezi attended Andrew Parker's housewarming party. 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.680 I said there was even a plaque to that effect. Well, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:39.600 let's have a look at that. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:39.800 Now. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.640 I can show you that tonight. There you go. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.360 The address was at the top of it. We've blurnt 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.280 it out, blurted out for privacy reasons. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:46.880 That says there. 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.880 And if we can show you the close up again, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:55.160 officially opened by Anthony Alberanzi, and it says also Gladys 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.640 Very Jicklian. It has Verry Jicklian's name there too, But 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:02.120 I understand them A new Sofales premier has been friends 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.080 with Andrew Parker since even their teenage years. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:05.800 A long time. 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.680 But when Albanzi was opposition leader, bizarrely opening the private 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.240 home of the man who was the government relations advisor 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.480 for Quantas who then went on to become their group 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.720 executive for sustainability, Sam made and today has backed up 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.240 my reporting. She's quoted a Quantus insider saying that alban 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.880 Ezi's denials were bs and that Andrew Parker used to 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:33.199 get calls from labor staffers about upgrades. Of course, we're 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.560 not suggesting Andrew Parker has done anything wrong. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.800 He hasn't. This is all in alban easy. I'm also 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.320 you're just going to quickly bring you before I go 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:40.520 to you. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:45.400 Steve Price, a Quantus insider familiar with these matters, has 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.520 said to me about Alban Easy, he's digging a grave 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:50.160 on this. 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.880 He's digging a grave on this. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.920 So, Steve Price, alber Ezi issuing blanket denials to select 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:59.520 media outlets. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.559 No public conferences. Where do you think this goes? Now? 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.439 Well, it shouldn't have lasted six days. And if he 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.000 lets it keep going, he's in real trouble. I mean 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:14.479 a couple of simple things here. When he was Transport 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.480 minister under rud Gillard, and then in opposition and Opposition leader, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.400 and then he ended up as Prime minister. If you're 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.800 sitting in a airport and you bought yourself an economy 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.280 ticket and you're traveling with your family, and you get 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.720 to the airport and you get to the check in gate, 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.240 or you get to the lounge and someone says, can 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.800 mister Albin Easy come to the front counterplease, and you're upgraded? 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.560 Don't you think to yourself? And I'd be interested in 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.600 what Matt thinks of this. I'm the Transport minister. Should 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.520 I really be taking this? Given the position I hold 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.840 and the influence I could have on aviation policy in 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:49.400 the country. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:50.240 That's simple. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.560 The other simple point I would make, and I've been 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.520 upgraded by contus in the past. Most recently I've had 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.480 to use frequent flyerpoints, but maybe twenty years ago I 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.319 would have had a couple of upgraded flights unprompted. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:03.960 You remember them. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.320 I mean I remember a flight where I was upgraded 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.000 on the way to Ireland because I was covering the 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.880 capture of drug baron Robert Trimboli and I got plumped 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.720 in first class by Quantas. The reason I remember it 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.120 the bloke sitting next to me was Angus Young from 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:18.880 ac DC. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.040 I thought all my Christmas had come at once. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.600 I'll never forget that flight for the rest of my life. 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.400 So you can't just go, oh, well, I can't remember. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.160 It's probably the only time you've ever been upgraded to 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.240 first class, so of course you'd remember it. But if 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.720 it's twenty two upgrades or more like Albo's had, you know, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.800 maybe it's not so special. Matt Canavan, there's now leagues 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:43.240 against your colleague, Bridget Mackenzie. This is perhaps to try 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.640 and stop a Senate inquiry from happening, because it would 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:50.120 open up once again. You know the possibility that Alan 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:50.880 Joyce would be. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.680 Recalled, well, no doubt. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.520 I mean the issue here is that the problems hasn't 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.920 been able to answer simple questions about his own actions, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.680 so he straight away went to singing Martin others, including 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.280 the author of his book. He incorrectly said he hadn't 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.800 disclosed matters. Now they're going after, of course, coalition colleagues. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.200 There's no allegation here against my colleague though that Senam 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.200 McKenzie in any way solicited gifts in a way that 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.480 Anthony Albenizi did as Minister for Transport. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:16.640 That is the key issue here. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.680 And he still hasn't given a definitive answer about whether 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.360 he or any of his staff ever had contact with 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.600 Quantas about that, these denials are not really believable. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:30.160 All right, Matt Canavan, Steve Price, thank you both very much. Now, 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.240 my big interview with Boris Johnson coming up after the break. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.560 But now let's cross to one of the key battleground 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.440 states in the United States, Pennsylvania, with our Washington correspondent, 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:40.480 Analise Nielsen. 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.120 I spoke with her a little earlier. Annalise, thank you 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:45.240 so much for your time. 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.280 Donald Trump has just announced he's suing over voter suppression. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.240 Can you tell us more about this. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:54.520 Suing? 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.640 And one the judges just made the ruling a short 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.000 time ago. Essentially, the issue they were talking was voters 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.600 who were in line in Bucks County. 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:04.280 For early voting. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.960 So how it happens here in Pennsylvania, And remember in America, 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.040 it's different in every state the rules around voting, and 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.840 each county local level gets to set how those rules 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.160 are administered. So in Bucks County they found that they 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.400 had enormous numbers of people lining up to cast. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:23.360 Their early ballots. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.080 How it happens here is you line up, you get 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.560 your mail ballot, the same one that would be mailed. 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:28.640 Out to you. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.240 But many Pennsylvanians have been saying they haven't been receiving 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.320 their mail in ballots, they've been getting lost in the mail. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.280 So they go line up, get handed a ballot, they 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.120 can fill it in on the spot, hand it back 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.160 to them, and their ballots cast early. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.360 So what happened was they had so many people. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.960 On line, the local officials early in the afternoon said 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.240 that's it, you're done, go home. And people in line 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.240 had the right to be there until five PM and 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.920 anyone in line at five pm, no matter how far 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.880 away it was, even if it took hours to get 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.640 them through, if you're in line by five pm, you 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.720 should have the right to vote. And so this is 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.840 what the Trump campaign sued over and one a judger said, yes, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.320 these voters were disenfranchised when we kicked them out of line. 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:08.800 So now they have additional. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.800 Days throughout the week to go do this early voting 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:15.120 ahead of voting next week on Tuesday in person, which 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.080 is the last chance for people to vote here in Pennsylvania. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.840 We've seen Joe Biden's garbage comment where he basically called 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.680 half of America, all of the Trump supporters garbage. Kamala 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.240 Harris now trying to distance herself from this. 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:32.480 Will this hurt her campaign? 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.359 Do you think in a similar way to Hillary Clinton's 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.959 basket of deplorable comment really damaged hers. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.719 Well, Look, one of the things that we're looking at 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.160 here is the fact it's happened late in the game. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.640 We're only six days out from the presidential election here, 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.520 so many Americans have already cast their ballots. About a 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.919 third the last time I looked of people who are 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.320 likely to vote have cast their ballot. But the issue 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.359 is they have been putting forward this idea that they 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.119 are the party that's going to bring people together and 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.080 it's Donald Trump who's divisive. So when you have Kamala 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.760 Harris in this iconic rally outside the White House trying 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.760 to draw the comparison to January sixth, at the same time, 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.720 you have Joe Biden inside just calling Donald Trump's supporters 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.919 garbage and then trying to walk it back through the 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:26.120 press office. People pick up on that, and we've heard 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.800 from that, We've heard that from people on the ground 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.880 here in Pennsylvania today. This is one of the critical 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:35.919 battleground states for both campaigns to try to win the 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.879 electoral College vote. So yes, it will absolutely cut through. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.639 And what the real issue is that I think hasn't 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.920 been emphasized enough in all this is the fact that 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.040 this is the problem the Harris campaign has had from 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:51.480 the get go, where they're trying to separate themselves from Biden. 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:53.879 He's been leaving days open. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.960 According to Axios, and they've been leaving him hanging because 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.160 they don't want him on the campaign trail with him, 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.040 he's seen as the live ability and he's left to 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.400 his own devices like this, and it does cause these 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:09.040 issues fractures because people realize that she's been working with 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.200 him for four years and they realize that he's got 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.560 issues with his cognitive abilities. 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.160 At the moment, his memory. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.800 And it is that just absolute juxtaposition that we're seeing 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:21.960 we have this new start and at the same time 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.280 we've got Joe Biden still in this position doing these 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.080 things when people know there's a problem. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.880 Annalie's you know, we're just days out, as you said, 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.640 six days to go. Can you take us through where 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.960 the poles are at the moment, especially in those seven 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:38.600 battleground swing states. 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:43.399 Look, this is one of the really fascinating things with 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:43.840 the poles. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.879 At the moment, they're just neck and neck. We're just 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.479 seeing fifty to fifty splits. We're seeing poles will come 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:51.960 out with a few points here and there. 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:52.880 For either campaign. 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.520 It looks like Donald Trump's pulling ahead, but we're still 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:56.800 within the margin of error. 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:58.800 And I can tell you from having been on the. 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.439 Ground for the last five weeks almost talking to people 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.520 in battleground states, the polls are exactly what we're seeing 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:09.479 on the ground. People aren't enthusiastic either way. People are 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.040 feeling very downtrodden about the whole thing, and I think 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.000 that's really interesting when we compare it to twenty twenty, 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.800 when there was so much friction, people were feeling passionate. 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.720 We've had anecdotes from across the country of people not 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.159 having as many signs stolen out of their yards, of 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.920 bartenders telling us they don't have to break up as 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.600 many political fights as they used to because people aren't 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.520 feeling overwhelmed about either candidate. But what we also compare 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.920 that to is the early voting. We are breaking records 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.960 across the country. Georgia alone is such a huge indicator, 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.040 and what we saw in Pennsylvania as well is the 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:45.720 number of people who've been voting early. 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:47.280 It's drastically. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.879 There's a drastic uptick for Republicans, and that is a 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.720 huge change from twenty twenty, when they were told stay home, 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:55.440 don't go to the polls early, do it one day 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.680 in person, otherwise you can't trust it. Now they're being told, 0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.280 do whatever it takes to get your voting early. 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.040 We'll have the other later. And it looks like it's 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.400 working for the Republicans all right. 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.639 Analys Nielsen really appreciate your time joining us from the 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:14.920