WEBVTT -  #17: Buzz's Long Feud with Warren Ryan, Cricket Australia Woes & Origin Selections Thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, and welcome to Off the Record, the sports

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<v Speaker 1>podcast of breaking news, hard opinion and a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of gibber. I'm Andrew Websterit from The Australia. I'm joined

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, journalistic crime, Phil Rothfield from

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<v Speaker 1>the Daily Telegraph.

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<v Speaker 2>Webby, how are you great to be here? Weather's crap

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<v Speaker 2>but you surviving the big wet? Yes, I am good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad. So coming up on that a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of gibber. We need a gibber made it because I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a lot more gibber than you're prepared to

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<v Speaker 2>concede in your little ape and it needs a fresher

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean? Probably forty GiB a little bit. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll work on that for the next roek.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on the show today, we've got some news

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<v Speaker 1>on who's going to coach Australia now the brad fieldler

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<v Speaker 1>has pulled the plug. We're going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>big state of origin decided next week, and Buzz talks

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<v Speaker 1>about his spectacular fallout with an iconic rugby league figure,

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<v Speaker 1>Warren the wok rhyme.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'll be good. I'm looking forward to that. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was a long feud that I'm sure it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He can find a feud, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you. Anyway, anyway, let's let's get in.

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<v Speaker 1>we get into this week's potty, I got a request

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<v Speaker 1>from one of our loyal listeners, Joel By Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read out his message and this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Word for words, So go ahead. Hold on Webby.

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<v Speaker 1>Love all the work that you do as a journal

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<v Speaker 1>every week on on Morning Glory, which I do with

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<v Speaker 1>Matt John's on on s E and every Friday. It's

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<v Speaker 1>become our favorite thing of the week. I also love

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<v Speaker 1>the Off the Record podcast with that old so and

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<v Speaker 1>so Buzz, who I author also think hang on and Finished,

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<v Speaker 1>who I also think is an absolute champion. You go

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<v Speaker 1>dot dot dot But for the love of us listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>can you please tell Buzz to push that microphone away

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<v Speaker 1>from his mouth and stop either chewing on cob stoppers

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<v Speaker 1>or his false teeth. I had to turn off last

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<v Speaker 1>week's episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Must be the gum must be. It must be the

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<v Speaker 2>Nicorettes perennial. We need Nicorette to sponsor this show. We should,

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<v Speaker 2>we should. I'll do my best. I'll do my best.

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<v Speaker 1>Give him a call.

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<v Speaker 2>How much?

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<v Speaker 1>How much Nicorettes? How many Nicorettes would you have a

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<v Speaker 1>board over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's nearly his dearest buddy cigarette, is it? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get him cheap at chemists. Do you buy the sponsor?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you buy him in bulk? I do? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Oh good, you're right anyway, Joel, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for that that message that you've sent via Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try and get buzz to it's not your false teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Is No, it's definitely not. I do have false teeth?

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<v Speaker 2>How many I should take them out for one episode?

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like Joel and his wife would like you

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, all right, let's have Let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>champs and chumps. Who's your champus?

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<v Speaker 2>Made? My champ is Women's Rugby League the NRLWS starts

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<v Speaker 2>this week it's now a twelve team competition and it

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<v Speaker 2>started in two thy eighteen, so this is the seventh

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<v Speaker 2>season with just four teams. It is the fastest growing

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<v Speaker 2>area of rugby league. I rang Dave Trodden this morning

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<v Speaker 2>to get some figures on participation in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>four years ago, twenty three thousand participants. Twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three thousand and five hundred. That's up forty five. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>What you can't measure is the increasing skill level and

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<v Speaker 2>that is why I've fallen in love with that game

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<v Speaker 2>and we've just had a great origin series. Those girls

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<v Speaker 2>are such special athletes, but they're skillful too, Wibby and

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<v Speaker 2>they throw the footy round beautifully. They're very well coached

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<v Speaker 2>and those games we're getting a million viewers on Channel

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<v Speaker 2>nine and that's more than a Thursday Friday night club game.

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<v Speaker 2>They're off the charts, they're figures, and that they've gone

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<v Speaker 2>to twelve teams, that the competition's longer now. These petition

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<v Speaker 2>participation numbers are going to grow and grow and grow,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think at some stage they'll be nearly Australia

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<v Speaker 2>up there with Australia's best female athletes and sport. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a far superior game to AFL with women.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're definitely winning the battle NRL against AFL

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<v Speaker 1>and rugby union. Really who've got the lure of the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>But the way that they the way the NRLW has

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<v Speaker 1>kicked on in the last few years, You're right at

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<v Speaker 1>the skill level, they're just their their physicality like they

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<v Speaker 1>rip in.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you think all that long ago and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of little girls wanted to play rugby league, but when

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<v Speaker 2>they got to twelve or third and they weren't allowed to,

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<v Speaker 2>it just stopped and they could go and play os,

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<v Speaker 2>tag or touch. Now they actually have a pathway junior reps,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from Tasha Goal through to the Harvey Normal

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<v Speaker 2>Women's camp and then the NRLW. I'll tell you in

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<v Speaker 2>ten years he is going to be just monstrous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a juggernaut like yourself. Okay, my champ. Now look,

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<v Speaker 1>this name isn't synonymous with the sports fan. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>my old mate, Ian Fooj, the executive sports that are

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sydney Morning Herald.

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<v Speaker 2>Great Man.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a great man, Fuji and he finishes up

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. After twenty six years of the Herald and

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen as the sports editor. He's not just a sports editor.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably one of my best mates and like a

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<v Speaker 1>big brother in many ways. He got me back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Herald in twenty thirteen to work under him, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was after the death of our great mate Rod Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a sports editor of The Herald at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just sorry, he just moved on as sports editor.

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<v Speaker 1>But Rod's death sort of convinced me I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go and work for Ian again. You'd moved on as

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<v Speaker 1>sports editor at the at the Telegraph, so that was

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<v Speaker 1>also a factor. But he's an incredible man. He rebuilt

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<v Speaker 1>that section so many times after redundancy, after redundancy, he

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<v Speaker 1>identified talent like Tom Deson, like Michael Chamis, like Michael Carrianas.

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<v Speaker 1>And he also backed me. So it's his last it's

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<v Speaker 1>his last day on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>This is funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know where he We hatched the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>me going back to the Herald in twenty thirteen a

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<v Speaker 1>lady boy bar in Coast Smooi in Thailand. We both

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be in Coasta on holidays at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the choir, were that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the Telegraph and i'd left. I was

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<v Speaker 1>on holidays in Coasta Movie on my own on the

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<v Speaker 1>quiet side of the island. He said come over to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd said, he goes, have you ever been to

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<v Speaker 1>a Lady boy bar? And I said, no, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been there before telling this story. He's partnered up with you,

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful, beautiful woman called Demand. But so so we

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<v Speaker 1>went there. It's my first time there and we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about shop. I was like, just who would have

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<v Speaker 1>thought the best looking women in the world would time in.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>On that note, well done, Foods. You've been an absolute

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<v Speaker 1>legend of Australian sports journalism.

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<v Speaker 2>Never been particularly close to him, but have admired him

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<v Speaker 2>from a distance and the quality of his journalism and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact, you said, the talent of the people he

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<v Speaker 2>hires and then he sees stories through to the end

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<v Speaker 2>of publication. And I bumped into it. Functions very pleasant dude,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, great career. He likes you too. Oh that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>He respects you enormously. Who's your chump? My chump is

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<v Speaker 2>your mate? One of your mates? Who's my mate? Shane Richardson,

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<v Speaker 2>Chief Executive Officer, West Tigers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we're not on at the moment. We've had a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a blues so have you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's so good. For the life of me,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot work out why he has left. Let Talent

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<v Speaker 2>de Silver leave that club eight months out from his contract,

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<v Speaker 2>same as they did with Lochlann Galvin. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>legal matter there so they had to let Galvin go.

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<v Speaker 2>Ti Kaman who went. Sean Blull went really good kid

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<v Speaker 2>on the Tony large half back, outstanding rugby league rugby

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<v Speaker 2>union half has gone to Manly. So I this club

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<v Speaker 2>has lost their last six games, the one win off

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the ladder and this is the second

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<v Speaker 2>gun kid they've let go prematurely because this kid didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to play behind Appy Corus out but he was

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<v Speaker 2>under contract. And as I've been trying to exit the blue

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<v Speaker 2>with Brent rudabad on three six the other night, I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to explain him what happens if happy falls, what

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<v Speaker 2>if he does in a cl what if he's out

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<v Speaker 2>for eight weeks with another injury. You don't let them

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<v Speaker 2>walk out. There's a lot of kids playing second grade.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Cobbo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the Broncos won't let Cobbo go. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because you know why the Broncos won't let

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<v Speaker 2>them go, because they think they're going to go deep

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<v Speaker 2>into the finals and injuries they'll use it. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to alloy a wooden spoon and Rich has let their

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<v Speaker 2>two best young players go. It's outrageous. I think it's buzz.

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<v Speaker 1>It's systematic of like you know, Rich has a great

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<v Speaker 1>hand and been in the business for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not whether it's his fold or the club's

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<v Speaker 1>fault or Benji Marshall's fault. But you know that's two big,

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<v Speaker 1>big name.

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<v Speaker 2>Two of the best kids in rugby league.

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<v Speaker 1>Young kids coming through. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what the successful clubs like the Roosters

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<v Speaker 2>and the Canterbury Bulldogs are doing. They're stop piling juniors.

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<v Speaker 2>They've opened academies. Gus is great at it. You signed

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<v Speaker 2>the best kids from every week. He's pinched a couple

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Woollongong's George's Nursery. Look at the Rooster's

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<v Speaker 2>academy opposite and you know what. These kids aren't guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>to play first grade. They've got a lot of but

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<v Speaker 2>they've got an atmosphere there. They've got great coaching there.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got legends the roosters like Cordon of friand Orbison.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to learn from Maris and what's doing with

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<v Speaker 2>the West Tigers.

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<v Speaker 1>They're at the door.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not good, rich O, you're my chump. Fire up,

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<v Speaker 2>rich Oh you know who my chump is? Gay for it?

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<v Speaker 1>Your great mates at Venues New South Wales? Did they

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<v Speaker 1>certainly they built? Did they build more park on a swamp? So?

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<v Speaker 2>So the SDG finished. No, But I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>you'll never ever I will never spend the New Year's

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<v Speaker 2>Test with you ever again? Why because they are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't be bought Phil, That's the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>you and I.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as I can get some Oasis tickets, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Segs come under fire for the playing surface

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<v Speaker 1>after that match between the Swans and the Western Bulldogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Swan's chairman Andrew Priddam called it unacceptable. Other said it's

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<v Speaker 1>the worst they've played on. Others they've said it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Venues to South Wales say it's never recovered from the

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Bicelli concert earlier this year. That's not good enough

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to those events and you still need

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure the playing surface is up to it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's both well SCG and Aliant Stadium. They've got some

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<v Speaker 1>real questions that need to be answered about their drainage

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<v Speaker 1>systems or whatever the hell is going on there. But

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<v Speaker 1>David Gallup needs to take control, and I'm calling him

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<v Speaker 1>out here on our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>DG Man, I'm sure he will carry Matha's in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of it, isn't she She's the CEO. Yes, she's the CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>What I have learned will be as soon as the

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<v Speaker 2>league finals are over, they're going to dig up the

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<v Speaker 2>Football Stadium or Alliance and they're going to go down

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<v Speaker 2>and look at the drainage and have engineers there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what it's going to do. It's going to affect

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney FC with the soccer. They're going to be off

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<v Speaker 2>the ground there for probably six weeks. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say it, but I wrote it two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>ago I did. Yeah, Sydney FC, it might be twelve weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've been told the might be two sets of

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, but that's a big impact on this season. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for reading my copy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well now you're you're behind the pay well it's

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<v Speaker 2>very expensive the Australian. They've got an end of your

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<v Speaker 2>financial sale and I just missed it too, So there

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<v Speaker 2>you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, but I buy I buy a Telegraph subscription to

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<v Speaker 1>read you Yeah, yeah, good on and Brent Reid and

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Carriana's at the risk of putting my cred.

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<v Speaker 2>Team of cad. I buy her to read her good

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<v Speaker 2>bulldog Bulldog of course read Thomas Racing Ray. Yeah, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>risk of putting my cricket ticket at risk. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>not good enough. Stadium that costs the best part of

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<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars. Can't cope with You know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you? You know what I'm saying, Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to a concert in April, shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>affecting your AFL fictions in late June. That's just not

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<v Speaker 1>good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you know what the Victorians look at and

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<v Speaker 2>it for anything all the time to spashydn't they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like us. And even if there's a tiny

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<v Speaker 2>pot of turf missing, they'll turn it into a scanned

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<v Speaker 2>or massive story. Yeah, and that's what's happened here. What

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<v Speaker 2>are you jibbering about? You know, they don't cop us.

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<v Speaker 1>There, No, they don't copy you though.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like your journalists love me. They love me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm, I'm. You know it is funny though, like

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne sports journals do not like Sydney sports journals do

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<v Speaker 1>they No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they're very rude towards us. Yes they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they get preoccupied by us and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually give a ship what they do because they're very soft. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you heard it here first, unless, of course it doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So Brad Fidler, we all thought he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the job.

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<v Speaker 2>I blame you for this. Well, exclusive on this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>three weeks ago. He was the man they wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>And see, I reckon this is the problem because not

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<v Speaker 1>just you writing it, but there was so much. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>just assumed that Freddy was going to have the job.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they talked to Freddy enough about him

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<v Speaker 1>having the job, so I don't think that was.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubled down on it and I wrote it again

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday and watched the bars that he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to coach Australia, and I'll tell you why I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Last Thursday, Tristan Hay, who as you know, was malmon

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<v Speaker 2>Inger's tour manager for anything Australia did christ and Hay

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<v Speaker 2>looked after it and did all the logistics manage everything.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been meeting with Freddy. He went to Freddy's house, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had a meeting and they were planning the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought, well, that's enough for me to run

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<v Speaker 2>with it. That's a good sign. So over the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>Freddy had a change of heart and said I actually

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<v Speaker 2>heard him last night. Was really interesting that he's put

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<v Speaker 2>his commentary before anything. And I like the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>he said he has to have some sharp opinions on

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<v Speaker 2>some of these players he might have to pick, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't want to offend anyone. But the story

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<v Speaker 2>now is that I'm told that Wayne Bennett is back

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<v Speaker 2>in the picture. Reason being there's a rule in place

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<v Speaker 2>that a club coach, a state coach cannot take on

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<v Speaker 2>the Kangaroos job. Whereby, however, as a one off, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Peter Velandi's Andrew Abdoll and the key people on

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<v Speaker 2>the commission will make an exception and a point Wayne

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<v Speaker 2>as a sort of an emergency solution for this kangaroo tour,

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<v Speaker 2>then offer the job in a malmon Inger type role

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<v Speaker 2>for three or four years next year for what will

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<v Speaker 2>be a World Cup. But we need to make a

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<v Speaker 2>decision quick. Camera. Smith's really funny. He was one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent forty last night. He sat back and said, you,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but they've got my phone number. Why doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>he pick the phone up? See too big to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>And wring themselves and say I'll have a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't he might have restrictions on his phone?

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<v Speaker 2>People, NL know as well you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>He can take calls, he just can't send.

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<v Speaker 2>Call you know as well as I do. He is

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<v Speaker 2>the hardest man on this planet to Contactry.

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<v Speaker 1>Writing his book, Craig on his book.

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<v Speaker 2>Craig Bell used to say, I can't find him.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get him. I couldn't get him for half

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<v Speaker 1>a book. But then I got him, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>finally got I used.

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<v Speaker 2>To get the ships that he never rang back. And

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<v Speaker 2>don't take it personally, buzz. It's all they told me.

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<v Speaker 2>So if the NRL want to go to the trouble

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<v Speaker 2>of sending out a search party or throw it, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said all along that I think Bennett. Bennett in that

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<v Speaker 1>for this series against England, it's a big it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like people will roll their eyes. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>take away a touring team. You've got to know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't say this three weeks ago when I revealed

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<v Speaker 2>Freddie was the job. I was saying before that. I

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<v Speaker 2>was saying, Bennett, you said the Sydney Football Stadium or

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<v Speaker 2>I did. Mate. This is a rapper throm for you

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not wrapping myself. I'm spitting facts. You should try

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<v Speaker 1>it sometimes, I said Bennett. And take Cameron Smith as

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<v Speaker 1>an assistant coach and then he could take over as

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<v Speaker 1>Australian coach for the World Cup next year.

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<v Speaker 2>The NRL for solving all their problems, Well I do

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<v Speaker 2>you know that idea? Yeah? I do. And look Wayne,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a short tour. I know it's three tests about

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<v Speaker 2>a month and Wayne could afford the time off at

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<v Speaker 2>South be perfect for it. Do it on his head. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think a Kangaroo tour, the reinvention of the

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<v Speaker 2>Kangaroo tours is such a prestige job. Like there was

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<v Speaker 2>some at the NRL saying, oh look brat Arthur's already

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<v Speaker 2>over there. We could get Brad no, thank you. You

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<v Speaker 2>know it's going to be tough though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a tough job because Australia, because of because players

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<v Speaker 1>like Tino and pay They're all going to start going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the other countries that they're eligible for. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a it's a tricky one, big, big, big

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<v Speaker 1>game at Wembley, big crowd, like the pressure is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on.

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<v Speaker 2>So so the first Whinney Bennett you heard, unless it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen. Yeah, you two are back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like you. I can Bury Hatchets.

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<v Speaker 2>I was fine but Wayne for a long time when

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<v Speaker 2>he was in Sydney and he got the ships, so

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<v Speaker 2>I covered his exit from Newcastle. He left him with

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<v Speaker 2>three wooden spoons and I was writing that and he

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<v Speaker 2>bowled out on them with a year ago on his

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<v Speaker 2>contract where he did loves positive media. He does meet

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<v Speaker 2>him too. Did some good, some of it not so good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny that one that was your best book.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of my longest books. News of the Week,

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<v Speaker 1>State of Origin, Decider a Core Stadium next Wednesday, Their Voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that very good, sell out crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>So Queensland have made you wouldn't have thought. You thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was the other way around. About who one game too.

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland made all the changes, some of them Force obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Hammer in for Ponger at fullback, Shabaski into the centers

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<v Speaker 1>and Papa Ley for Fodor Waker. What are you and

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<v Speaker 1>New Southwester unchanged? Should Billy Slater have picked at Recee Walsh?

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<v Speaker 2>I think absolutely should have, and as a New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales fan, I'm so happy he hasn't because if you

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<v Speaker 2>add Walsh at fullback and then you had the Hammer

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<v Speaker 2>and the Sanders, it's two X factor players. Very hard

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<v Speaker 2>to plan any defense about it. You've really got to

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<v Speaker 2>get your numbers and have that straight line. But they've

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<v Speaker 2>both got so much speed, they've both got so much

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<v Speaker 2>unpredictability about them. They're both just class attacking weapons. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think Billy Slade has led us off here. He's

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<v Speaker 2>now got two center's playing the two games experienced between them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're against Latrelle, they're against Stephen Crighton who both won premierships,

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<v Speaker 2>and I expect New South Wales to win because but

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<v Speaker 2>I would fear them a lot more Queensland if Walsh

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<v Speaker 2>was playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it when we agree, but I'm with you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know he's well. Billy said it's got

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with his knee. But of them the

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<v Speaker 1>same opinion, I'm Stundard's. Of Reese Welsh, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>he's more you know, he's more dangerous when he's when

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<v Speaker 1>he's uh, when he's in that Queensland team. I mean sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland are more dangerous when he's in that team. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>to get infinitely more, well, you've got to get danderous.

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<v Speaker 2>Try as close as you can to get your best

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<v Speaker 2>seven name footballers in. You look at Reese Walsh's form

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<v Speaker 2>and the Broncos resurgence in this competition coincides with Walsh

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<v Speaker 2>coming back for the Titans game and then again to buy,

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<v Speaker 2>then again last weekend, and even though he's heavily strapped,

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<v Speaker 2>he's playing fantastic, isn't he.

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<v Speaker 1>When he doesn't run at the back, when he just

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<v Speaker 1>sweeps around, he sweeps around beautiful past to do you know,

0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:14.479
<v Speaker 1>but he does like if you if you didn't anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have thought it was Billy jump Billy Billy

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Slater in the Broncos jumps. He's he's very similar what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Papa back. Papa Look, I said this on three sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Mo, Fight Awaker and Tino in the forwards,

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<v Speaker 2>as you that's the Titans front Titans, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the ladder, so that they can't

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<v Speaker 2>be in that flash. So I love Papa bean back.

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<v Speaker 1>Should should Lorrie Dally have make changes to the Blues team?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not. I would have picked Calum a Tangy originally,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was poor for Souse on the weekend and

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<v Speaker 2>Steffano played strong so up until the weekend. Yes, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy with the side.

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<v Speaker 1>For mine, the most important player on the field is

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<v Speaker 1>not actually climbed the three. It is Nathan Cleary. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the storyline for me. I thought Cleary's performance

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<v Speaker 1>for Penrith against the Bulldogs is exactly what you expect

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<v Speaker 1>from a champion player, not just a champion player, an

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>immortal in waiting player. Well, he had a look in

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:18.959
<v Speaker 1>his eye when he came down that tunnel and was

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<v Speaker 1>just so dominant and so strong, and I just think

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>he's had all this talk about whether he can take

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<v Speaker 1>control of.

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<v Speaker 2>An Origin series.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's got anything to prove it for

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales is one matches for New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one series for New South Wales. But I can

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<v Speaker 1>just see it set up for Nathan Clear to make

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<v Speaker 1>a real statement in that deciding Origin.

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<v Speaker 2>You've taken my fearless forecast. It was about clearing. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll stick with it. I'll have my say about what

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<v Speaker 2>I expect him to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to that in fifteen minutes time. So

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<v Speaker 1>that that's a hook and tease, yeah is it?

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, speaking of being really good today with the air coon,

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<v Speaker 1>what's about two degrees outside?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? All right, this is the first podcast done with you.

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>You haven't wanted sixteen degree temperatures. Don't worry about me.

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Got the Tory Hill figure on? You look at a

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 2>million bucks? Whatever? You look at a million bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could say the same about you and

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>your funny little head over there. Ryan Hoffman's had a

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>bit of a crack at the Rugby League media. Yeah,

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:21.640
<v Speaker 1>he says that media around Origin needs to be better.

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>His all stems back to what Aaron Woods had to

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>say about Billy Slater after Game one. I reckon Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Hoffman probably needs to read a little bit more if

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to just sum up State of Origin coverage

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<v Speaker 1>based on what Aaron Woods to throw away line on

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<v Speaker 1>Triple M was, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Ryan Hoffman was a very very good rugby

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 2>league player, but I'm not sure what journalists and school

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 2>he's ever been to. You once said that about Mark

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 2>believe you when you're having a blue with him on

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 2>White Ball of Sports. Yeah, Sunday, that was a knockout. Look.

0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Hoffman is guilty of the worst trash I've heard

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 2>in a long period of time when he referred to

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Woods as a coward, and for him then to

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>come out and try to lecture the media on what's

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<v Speaker 2>right to print and talk about and published on Mate,

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just bullshit. He needs to pull his head in

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Hoffman, A lot of ex players made really got

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>the shits with him. I know, I can't wait for

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 2>the next Blues Old Boys or Freddie Fittler Metal Dinner

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 2>and he'll romp in there and he's called one of

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 2>their own Queensland love it knowing we're fighting. He was

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.119
<v Speaker 2>so out of order and he needs to pull his

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>head And.

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<v Speaker 1>He also dogged it because he tried to tell Aaron

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Woods in a phone call. I know this for a

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>fact that what he's been saying publicly. I never called

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>him a coward. I just said what he said was cowardly. No,

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:47.679
<v Speaker 1>you didn't, Mate, you called him a coward.

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 2>He used the word coward.

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>He used the word coward. He also said this comment.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, all you're doing is allowing other people

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>to say those comments in the name of banter. But

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>where do you draw the line? Is it calling someone

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 1>a grub is a word? Isn't making sexist racist comments

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 1>about people?

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Is that allowed? Ryan?

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 1>There's the line, Mate, grub is in said in banter?

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Is one thing calling someone a sexist or racist name?

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>That's not allowed. There's your line. You like that?

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Now? Look, I one hundred percent agree that. I'm really

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 2>disappointed with him. I interviewed Block a roach about it.

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 2>He is filthy, Blocker us all and he wants to

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 2>get him together. But if he gets together, he wants

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>top one to apologize. If they don't just plunk their

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 2>heads together. You've seen the size of Block. You're still

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>capable of it.

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>He still scares me.

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 2>He will either do that or head back.

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>But then they'll have a schooner together and tell each other.

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>In most they love each other. Yes, okay. Finally the

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>cricket Australia won the First Test against the West Indies

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>by one hundred and fifty nine runs within three days,

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>but there's huge questions over their top order. In an

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:01.400
<v Speaker 1>ashes year, Sam Constance filed to double digits. I can

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 1>make excuse. That's okay. He's a young nineteen year old

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>opening bat give him time. Cameron Green at three yuck.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it at all, even though they said

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 1>they're going to persist with it and Usmond Kowaja looks cooked.

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>There are issues with the top order in Australian cricket.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I reckon.

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 1>A big part of it, buzz and I've written about

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>this many times in the last few years, is that

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>there's no there's no clear line of progression. It used

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to be the Sheffield Shield because there's so many players

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>ducking off to play in Tea twenty tournaments all around

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the world. It's it doesn't produce, it doesn't produce that

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>conveyor belt of particularly of opening batsman or top top

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>order batsman.

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Used to do. When you say there's no progression, We

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>had Sam Constance play the best sixty we've ever seen

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 2>in a boxing day Test against against the champion India.

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Then he had one more Test and they dropped him.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Confidence goes and they go back to the old blacks. Yeah,

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 2>and so Pathway is said, surely deserve more than one chance.

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what I think. It's harder to get out of

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 2>the Australian teams is in and I'll tell you something.

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll bring you talk about the batsmen. I'll talk about

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 2>the bowlers now. They've been getting us out of trouble

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>year after years, series after series, test after tests. You

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 2>know what, I've worked out The combined age of far

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 2>of our bowling attack is about one hundred and seventy

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 2>it is. That's almost as old as you. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll go sure. Mitchell Starks thirty five, Hazelwood's thirty four,

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Lions thirty seven, Bolin's thirty six, and Cummins is thirty two.

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 2>What I'm trying to say here is I'm not saying

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 2>any of these guys are cooked yet, but at some

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>stage that our failing batsmen aren't going to be able

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 2>to rely on this really special bowling attack. You're hey,

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 2>what about at the ages.

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Though I know, I know well Scott Boland's thirty six.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the line thirty seven, Hazel With thirty, Start, thirty.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Crazy Web thirty across the board. There are a lot

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>of the players that are in their thirties and look.

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 2>We've been so remarkably successful under pat comments, which would

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 2>make it difficult to make changes. However, we do need

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>a succession plan. It's like when we lost Warn, when

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 2>we lost Gil Chris, when we lost McGrath for that

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>after that Ashes series in but when they six, when

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>they retire in a group of upshite.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well, as long as they fire. When you're

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>sitting there in the trust suite of the cricket.

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 2>That's all that matters. You will not be there. Your

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>only hope is if I take you as my guest,

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 2>which I particularly Mark.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Can you just remark this comment from Buzz in time

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>so we can play it back while while I'm drinking

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>out of a frosted blast scoffing King Ports. Hey, So

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the second testing Grenada starts on midnight midnight on Friday.

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Stop telling me to move Ryan, stop telling me to

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>prove to move on. I'm going to move you on

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, war Stories time the segment, everyone the segment.

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Everyone loves you love a feud. Warren Ryan can find

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a feud. He's a bit of a little prickly pear.

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Back then, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't he have a fall

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>out with Chippy. He had a massive fall out with

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Chippy and Chippy was so shitty. One year Warren Ryan

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 2>won the Calm. Yeah, and everyone on the Daily Mirror

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>back then came back to the office after the game

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 2>and had to produce an eight page lift out on

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 2>the game. And Chippy announced to the staff, I'm going

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>to write him out of history. No one is to

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>mention his name in this grand final lift out. And

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>what got that shit?

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, wine Wright has said to me, those blokes, Yeah,

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>those blakes had the telly.

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>They wrote me out of history. So it hurts.

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>So tell me about your fall out with one wrong

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>my ship fights.

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>You know. It started way back in nineteen seventy eight,

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>wherebe I was probably nineteen twenty. I was three. Yeah,

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>well mate, this is true. And I covered a new

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Town game at Henson Park and I walked into the

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 2>sheds and made it was quite confronting for a kid

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 2>to you getting a semicircle around the coach and Medonicas

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 2>was sitting there and Kenny Wilson and the Dorson. You know,

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>it was almost frightening. Pretty young reporter. So anyway, I

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>walk in, introduced myself to Warrener and he said, mate,

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>you're too young to be writing. Fully, you grab a

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>notebook and hoiked it. I had that transit. Everyone just

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>taking transistor that fell on the ground. The batteries went

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 2>everywhere players were. He snatched out of your hand. There

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>he did, promised too. He was just trying to put

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>me on shot. It wasn't. He was just showing off.

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 2>You're too young to be Anyway, we got off.

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Book, we got get up and whack him with it.

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>We got off. You know, he was an Empire game

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.959
<v Speaker 2>shot put. I'm aware. So he was a lot bigger

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>and stronger than me. Okay, so I wasn't going to

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 2>pide him.

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I've also seen that C. C. Seafootage where he whacked

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that old bloke at the Patriot Hotels. Definitely he can

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely go.

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 2>He put the slipper into that old break. It was

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>a blue old composed myself. I'll tell you the best year,

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Hans that day nine and eighty six South Canterbury at

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 2>the Sydney Cricket Ground. I rang George Piggins night before

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the game and he said, we're confident, but I know

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen. Peter Kelly and the Cannbury will

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 2>try and bash us. He will dead set bash us.

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>So the back page and the telegraph was George's fear

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Kelly will bash us. You know an old tableauid head. Yeah.

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>So anyway they kick off and the ball goes to

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Ross Harrington, the South swinger in the showground corner. Harrington

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.479
<v Speaker 2>runs it up and Kelly goes bash and knocked him

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>out dead set first tackle. He got sent off after

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 2>ten seconds. The story goes that he was in the

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 2>sheds before the bugler got off the field with the anzac.

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>That's how quick it was. So anyway, after the game

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>we get into the sheds and Warren Ryan grabs me

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>and starts poking me in the chest and said this

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>is your fault. I said, how's it my fault? What

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.719
<v Speaker 2>he said, well, your story on the back page today,

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>you know the he's read it, were waiting for it

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>and did it. I said, it's got nothing to do

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>with me. George Piggins said it and I printed it.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 2>He pushed me and poked me, and I pushed and

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Peter Moore had to jump in between us to you know,

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 2>to make sure it didn't get out of hand. Yeah,

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>so that wasn't a real pleasant way to be covering

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 2>rugby league back in those days. Yeah, the press conferences.

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Look but the guy used to egg him up a

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>bit too. We used to call him Shackles a lot

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>because he used to shackle Steve Mortimer. He Steve more

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 2>than Banny Elias, the two examples, and they were just

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 2>so gifted, so brilliant that you couldn't gain plan them,

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 2>you couldn't structure them. They were just natural chip over

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 2>the tie, you know, Yeah, just off the cuff rugby

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 2>league players. And they used to complain to me privately

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 2>about him trying to, you know, game plan them. As

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I said, he's a complex character. He is, I still say,

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to have another little whack at him.

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Here here we go the nineteen eighty nine Grand Final

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>when he replays blocker Roach and Paul Sarah and I

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>believe was the greatest coaching blunder I've seen, and a

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 2>decider Camber came home over the top of them, beat

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 2>them an extra time. W's argument is that they were

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>leading at the time beal Main, so he bought defenders

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>on for you do not replace the two best forwards

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 2>in the world there on a Grand Final.

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>It's very funny should bring this up. So my personal trainer,

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.919
<v Speaker 1>the man responsible for this amazing reason, did you see

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>no no no, no no no no. Guy called Ben Seymour,

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>who's married to James Grant's daughter, Zoey. James Grant scored

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in the first half of our Main on the wing

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.919
<v Speaker 1>in that Grand Final, and Benny asked me, he said,

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>he said, what happened in that game? Why what should

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Bowmain have won it? And I went through all the

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>or you know, the knock ons with the trot line open,

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the ankle tap on Junior, the Benny hitting the crossbar,

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and I said, but the one that everyone talks about is.

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>That image that we will never get out of our head.

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Of zero and Blocker on the sideline in the second half.

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>As camera come over the top of them just chewing nails,

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.760
<v Speaker 1>they look that unhappy. Can I tell you my warrant?

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I got all right with block My first interaction with

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>him newcast two thousand and five. I was at the

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Sun Herald and Tony mcgay lined up an interview with him.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>It was about a beer that had had with Nathan Brown,

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>who was a coach of the Dragons at the time,

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>and he identified early in the season, or a third

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of the way through the season, that the problem for

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the Dragons attack was a Trent Barrett. The five eighths

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.720
<v Speaker 1>was moving too much, too laterally, and that was cramping

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the outside backs. And he just sort of basically sat

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>there with the fifty cent pieces over a beer and

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>showed him how their attack should look. Saint George went

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>on that great run, remember that year, and should that

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.760
<v Speaker 1>was a year the Dragon should have won it, I reckon. Anyway,

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.439
<v Speaker 1>So mcgae had lined up this interview on the Saturday morning.

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>We're going to make it the back page, and you

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.760
<v Speaker 1>know it was. It was a lot writing on the piece.

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<v Speaker 1>And I called Warren Ryan at home and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah again, I Warren Andrew Webster, Sun Herald Newspaper, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, look, tourna Gay said to give your call.

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<v Speaker 1>I said yes, I said so mate, and I see

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<v Speaker 1>you're fucked up already.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not your mate.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he and I just went here we go, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he proceeded to give me twenty minutes of the

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<v Speaker 1>best quotes you could ever imagine. It was perfect, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that in many ways sums up Warren Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good. But mate, you get these situations in the

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<v Speaker 2>game and you know, I've never had a relationship as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as and you know we talk about he's your

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<v Speaker 2>worst really Oh yeah, yeah, I spoke about before. Mate.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had some great relationships. And if someone poked me

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<v Speaker 2>in the chest, I tell you, yeah, well, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what to do. I would have swung. The interesting

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 2>thing is I would Jack Gibson never copped him, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like him at all. You know who's really tired with him?

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<v Speaker 1>Joey John's Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Joey took him along too, Origin training. A couple of

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Joey gazing as a Chinese fee with him and Lang

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<v Speaker 2>Mak and Joey Thomas that crowd. Yeah, but that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't all get on in this crazy old world.

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<v Speaker 1>We scored in rugby League.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember you gave me. I think you're suspended me

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<v Speaker 2>for six months, didn't you? Long ago? A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and I had to buy your bottle of

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<v Speaker 2>Anski to sweep that up. That's the true story. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't talk for six months and I organized the lunch

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<v Speaker 2>at Grappa. I thought it was a peace offering. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>stop and it cost me hans to the bottle of

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<v Speaker 2>Nski and I love but to the restaurant, present it

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<v Speaker 2>to you? And you were you known to the restaurant?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? Because I drove there and they got

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 2>the drink and then left my car there and left

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 2>the car and the and the Charlie up who runs

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<v Speaker 2>the restaurant to get him to put the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, I went and got it when I got

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<v Speaker 1>the car, all right, fearless forecast buzz, what do you got?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I was trying to be trying to beat that

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful pros.

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<v Speaker 2>That I just produced on Nathan Nathan Cleary. Look that

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<v Speaker 2>Penrith game the other night, said it? You know? Then

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 2>he found another way to win a game, didn't he

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:29.839
<v Speaker 2>with the charge down? But he read it. He read

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<v Speaker 2>the fullback wasn't in the line as but he read

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 2>the space charged it down. And you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>think in this mood that he is going to own

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<v Speaker 2>Origin next week. I think, and I've been saying for

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<v Speaker 2>a long period of time, or for the last year

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<v Speaker 2>or so, that I've already got him with his full

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>titles alongside Joey in Thurston. I do. And it's a

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 2>big thing to say, but I genuinely believe it. That

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>he's played in five straight Grand finals one four of

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<v Speaker 2>them and this I can see him now getting the

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<v Speaker 2>Player of the Series award on Wednesday night as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes I can. I like it. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>The British and Irish Lions are on our shores. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're a massive rugby union days.

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<v Speaker 2>Go you good thing? Whereby what do you have for

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<v Speaker 2>a free ticket? I know I'm not wearing Alex Brown.

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Say Alex, I gave you a wrap on my show

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<v Speaker 2>off the record, shut up, get a free ticket? Shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was talking about Rara types and they reckon

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<v Speaker 1>a two to one series victory to the Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the bet really?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the lines will take time to work into their

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<v Speaker 1>combinations and the Wallabies will probably snatch the first one

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's at some Corps Stadium buzz. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to take the lines to win the series two to

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<v Speaker 1>one four dollars fifty fifty. It's pretty good price.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting with so much interest, how the betting interest

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<v Speaker 2>be on this series, because obviously rugby league and AFL

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>are the main sports. Interesting to see what sort of

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>you know? Right over? What a show terrific went? All right,

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>you've actually famed up for a change. Yeah, it was good.

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 2>It was crude. You're right, first episode you've done without

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the aircon. No, it's we've had one without. How we

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 2>have it? Because I'm done well, I'm in the hottest

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>part of the nowhere, but still plenty of.

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Can we just before we go? Where's this butter menthold

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 1>stuff come from?

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 2>You were chewing them? I wasn't chewing one. One of

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 2>my listeners said, you were. Oh there's one of your listeners.

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Now you're right.

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Who is it?

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a player agent. Oh what a surprise, Stephen Charm.

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>You're doing the bidding for one of those player agents.

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Steven Gellis has got his own, the good ones. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you next week before we go back.

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0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.120
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Phil, Thanksbank Free Champion. See you guys. Bye,