1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: The Fitzi and Whipper podcast. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: There is an amazing exhibition at the Moment at the 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Powerhouse Museum. If you love your music, this man was 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: a part of a musical revolution and it was one 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: of the biggest of all time. When we think of 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: grunge in the early nineties and what it did and 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 2: change the musical landsfare, it is crazy. This guy was 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: mixed up with that very young and got mixed up 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: with some of the biggest bands in the world. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: His name is Steve Pavlovitch. We know him as pav. 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: This is really exciting. As we were just saying off air, 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the memorability that you actually 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: managed to hold on to when a lot of people 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: don't takes you straight back to those moments. 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think part of it was SOCD. I 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 3: couldn't stand it's scene look at everything around my apartment. 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: So I just had this storage and so I just 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: throw it all back in there so I didn't have 19 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: to look at it. Yeah, and thirty years later people 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: are putting me in a museum. It's crazy. 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: So, Pad, you were like nineteen years of age and 22 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: you saw a sonic youth gig and it changed your 23 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: life and you said, this is I want to bring 24 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: some of the biggest bands from America over to Australia, 25 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: not knowing at the time because I mean that that 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: grungy it was. I mean those bands were popular, but 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: it hadn't kicked in yet, like Nirvana hadn't kicked in yet. 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. At the time, there's just this underground community 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: to people around the world doing these shows and it 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: was exciting to us and have friends, and you know, 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: I just had this moment where I saw that show. 32 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: I was like, this is it. This is what I'm 33 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: going to do. 34 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: But you became a promoter. 35 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: Let's start with Nirvana. You were ringing from a payphone 36 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: in BONDI mat Kurt Cobain's number. 37 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: You're kidding me, mate, I did. The first roe we 38 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: did was a band called mud Honey and they were 39 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: good mates with Nirvana and they're like, you should bring 40 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: our mates Nirvana to Australia. I'm mate, I love that. 41 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: That Bleach album was out at the time, and they're like, 42 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: here's Kurt's number, here's Chris's number, call them up. So hey, mate, 43 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: this is Pad from Australia, which like to come down 44 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: here on friends with Dan and gave me a number, 45 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, yeah, well that sounds great. Sometimes 46 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: we're just making this album. I'm like, really, I just 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: checked back in a few months and I'd met this 48 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: girl in America in a bar and she'd started working 49 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: for AT and C operators and gave me one of 50 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: those calling card numbers. Now I go down the beach, 51 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: have a swim, come back in a kit, dripping wet 52 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: sand on me, grab a juice, get to pay phone 53 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: Bondo Beach post office in Cornervada. 54 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Wow, is extraordinary. 55 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: And that just went on and on for a year 56 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: until the next they said, we've got a manager of 57 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: that new album's finishes called never Mind. We want you 58 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: to do our tour. That's it. It's crazy. And then 59 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: what happened, Well, then they came. They become the biggest 60 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: band in the world's era. Where have you been? I 61 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: called for you? 62 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Then what happened? 63 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Tell me about when they did finally arrive, the time 64 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: with Kurt and the band and what you did. Did 65 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: you do much socially or. 66 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: Well, we did a lot. I took him camping down 67 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: the South coast, which is one of my go to 68 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: and my kid of hosting tools and along the way though, 69 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: Courtney got involved and she's like, mate, do you really 70 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: think we're going camping? You get me and Kurt at 71 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: the hotel. So we were down the south coast and 72 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: the only hotel of vone was Bateman's bab Hotel. So 73 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: Gord he went to the motel and I've got the 74 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: rest of the band down these little cabins down at 75 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: North Tharrist or South Tharrests, and we take them out 76 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: to the kangaroos, have a campfire at night on the beach, 77 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: Drink some beers or sake, some jaffles or some sandwiches. 78 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: So with the exhibition and all the memorability are in there, 79 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: is there anything that you've kept just quietly at home 80 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: or What'm I suppose I'm asking what is the most 81 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: prized position you have? 82 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: Well, there's some sensitive photos that just wouldn't be right 83 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: when you have a relationship with these artists and you're 84 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: there because they trust you. So you're given a position 85 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: of trust and you know you're allowed to document a 86 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: lot of stuff. And I think some of those people 87 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: would be a little disappointed with some of those pictures 88 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: found the way to the world wide webs Yeah, exactly. 89 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Did you keep in touch after they left like that? Absolutely? 90 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: You know, I became friends with all of these people 91 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: with same age, same interests, and I would go to 92 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: America and they felt obligated to host me. So then 93 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: they showed me around and was great. 94 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: Pav was asked and when Kurt was at you know, 95 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: there was a tough time for kurtin and they were 96 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: recording more music. Pap was actually asked, can you look 97 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: after Kurt for a week and make sure that he 98 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: does an OD? 99 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: That was your job for a week. It was Courtney 100 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: and the people around them, and he was making the 101 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: They did the hard shape Box video and they played 102 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: MTV Awards or they went to them, and so they said, 103 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: Kurt's going to be on his own here for a 104 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 3: few days or a week, could you just make sure 105 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: he does an OD. And I'm like, well, I will 106 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: pay you, Like this is weird. So I call up Kurt, Mate, 107 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: they want to pay me to hang out with you, 108 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: and he's like, mate, just take the freaking money. Let's 109 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: hang out. So we had then adjoining room and I 110 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: would drive him around and my job was made sure 111 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: he did no d but I never thought to ask 112 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: anyone what do I do if he does? Yeah, that's 113 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: no idea. 114 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: If you go to this exhibition, there's Kurt Cobains. What's 115 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: the guitar from Unplugged? Isn't that pass correct? Which is 116 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: the world's most expensive guitar? Now, well, that's true and 117 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 2: I found that out. And I recently did an interview 118 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: with Dave Grohl when he was out playing in Geelong 119 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: last time, and I'm like, Dave, have you ever picked 120 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: up that guitar and does it sound or feel like 121 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: nine million dollars? And he was like, are you kidding me? 122 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: Someone paid nine million dollars? It does not sound like 123 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: nine million dollar guitar. 124 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: When Navana came out here and he brought them here, 125 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: were they commercial air time where they're being played across 126 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: you know, the FM stations. 127 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: When they got here, they were the number one band 128 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: in the world. And this is outside my sort of wheelhouse. 129 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: And so I just get the run sheet of promo 130 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 3: that the label wanted us to do and we're in 131 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: Canberra and I look at it. There's like Kicks one 132 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: oh six radio interview. I'm like, I grew up here. 133 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: That must be that building. On the main drag, so 134 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: I didn't even look again at it, and on the 135 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: way to sound check, I wheel them in there. I'm saying, hey, 136 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: I've got Nirvana here for the interview, and they're like, oh, 137 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: they look a bit surprised, and weired it out and 138 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: the reception, they says, sit here. Next minute they're whisked 139 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: into the studio and I'm outside this year I can 140 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: hear it and they're like, these guys are go like, hey, 141 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: many horgy chicks. You're going to get some babes down here, 142 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: and they were getting agitated, and next minute I like, 143 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: f bomb this and they kind of peel out of 144 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: the studio and they're like, mate, what a badge of 145 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: mancho wankers. We go the gig. Flash forward a few 146 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: hours later, I'm standing next to the head of the 147 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: record company and some guy introduced to me the head 148 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: of the band finished playing Come as You Are. Dave 149 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: Grohl gets on there on the mic and says, mate, 150 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: we did an interview at the worst radio station I've 151 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: ever been in my wife. It's called Kicks one oh six. 152 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: What a bunch of idiots And they say a lot 153 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: of others, you know, like this bomb that and they 154 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: can suck bah bah bah. And the guy looks at 155 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: me and goes, what have you done, mate? What are 156 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: you talking about? I took him there, and he goes, mate, 157 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: they didn't show up. I unwittingly took them to the 158 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: wrong radio station, which will be a kin of these 159 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: faiths to take you. I'm taking them to the Fitzian 160 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 3: Whipper show. And I've taken to Kyle and Jackie and 161 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: I come out after my mate, those FITSI and Whipper guys. 162 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: Wow is god? How good is that? 163 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: It's just amazing, Path Like, it really just transported me 164 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: back to the nineties. 165 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people will love this exhibition. 166 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: Go check it out. 167 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: It will blow your mind. It's at the Powerhouse Museum. 168 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: How long is it there for a Path? How long 169 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: you sticking around for? 170 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: Mate? I can't believe the government want my crap in 171 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: a museum for eight months? What great? Right? 172 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: And you know the best thing about the Powerhouse Museum 173 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: You take the kids there as well, and then you 174 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: can duck off and go see this. 175 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: It's called unpopular. Go check it out and out, Path, 176 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: Thanks for coming in, Thanks for having me. You're listening 177 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: to The Fitz and Whipper Podcast,