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Speaker 1: Apode Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the We will always have podcasts with me

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Speaker 2: Christian Hull and Chrissy Hearn And over the next few episodes,

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Speaker 2: we've left Sydney behind and it's time for us to

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Speaker 2: explore my hometown of Brisbane. Chrisy's phone up to stay

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Speaker 2: with me for a couple of nights, God help me,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to do a bunch of stuff and

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Speaker 2: get ourselves into a whole heap of chaos. Well, we

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Speaker 2: sit on opposite ends of the spectrum with this.

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Speaker 1: Oh, most definitely, But I think I'm leaning more towards

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Speaker 1: You're in now, really, yes, we're talking about maps.

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Speaker 2: It is by far the single worst and most irresponsible

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Speaker 2: television show I think to exist.

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Speaker 1: Now tell me why you feel that way.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think it promotes domestic violence. I think it

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Speaker 2: promotes unhealthy relationships. Promotes is a strong word. It showcases

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Speaker 2: them and then absolutely no repercussions. It does not hold

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Speaker 2: any of the contestants. It's responsible. The producers bring in

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Speaker 2: people who clearly probably have some issues. It highlights them,

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Speaker 2: it makes them instantly famous. I believe it doesn't give

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Speaker 2: them the support they need. As much as it's like

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Speaker 2: that way profhads. Yeah, cool. You're putting these people in

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Speaker 2: horrifically public, uncompromising situations, peppering them with alcohol and filming

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Speaker 2: a TV show, and you're making fucking bang off of them,

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Speaker 2: and you know who's getting into trouble from it? The contestants.

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Speaker 2: I don't know a single name of a producer. I'm

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Speaker 2: not seeing anyone coming out to go, oh yeah, look,

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Speaker 2: we probably shouldn't be doing this. I mean, a guy

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Speaker 2: didn't a guy punch a hole in a wall and

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Speaker 2: what happened to him? He's still on the show.

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Speaker 1: Well he is, which is something that I don't tolerate.

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Speaker 1: So I want to go back a bit right because

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Speaker 1: we're talking about an evolved match.

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Speaker 2: What season are we up to now?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you nine I think it is, honestly,

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Speaker 1: could not tell you, But I can tell you charagraphically.

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Speaker 1: Big Word got it wrong, categorically, thank you. Five years

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Speaker 1: ago we saw a very different what we see today.

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Speaker 2: I think reality TV shows.

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Speaker 1: In general, do you reckon get worse?

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Speaker 2: Like Big Brother? The first Big Brother's iconic created just

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Speaker 2: we're absolutely fantastic bunny dance, and then we got bored.

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Speaker 1: Of the Bessy swamp Reggie.

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Speaker 2: And then you just can't do that anymore. It's done,

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Speaker 2: its day. We need to move on, we need to

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Speaker 2: create something new. The Block, for example, the early days

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Speaker 2: of the Block, I fucking loved. They had no help,

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Speaker 2: to send it into chaos and drama and relationship breakdowns,

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Speaker 2: like the Block's now more about the couple's relationships and

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Speaker 2: temperaments than it is about actually building.

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Speaker 1: With whole of reality TV, we now are moving into

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Speaker 1: this where people have cancel culture and drama filled stuff,

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Speaker 1: so we don't want to watch it unless we've got

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Speaker 1: all of this drama, the undertones of Domestic VI. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I find it really, really uncomfortable. It started off for

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Speaker 1: me as okay, well here we are, and then it

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Speaker 1: just started getting very dark this season, very undertones, and

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Speaker 1: I do not like that Channel nine did not come

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Speaker 1: put this in place, We've given him counseling, we're not

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Speaker 1: allowing him to drink alcohol. Now it's very structured for him.

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Speaker 1: Put a foot out of line is out.

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Speaker 2: The fact that Channel nine filmed it, made it to

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Speaker 2: shouldn't even be making a statement. It should not have

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Speaker 2: gone on television. Well that's true, Like it's gone through

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Speaker 2: all these people, so I want to make their money.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, I think it is a reflection on

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Speaker 2: we want dr look at TikTok. Oh my god, we

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Speaker 2: have a whole like I've got a whole stack of

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Speaker 2: a little bit like a giant hypocrite now, But we

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Speaker 2: original Big Brother, the original block didn't have to compete

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Speaker 1: And so how much TV time would you put in

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Speaker 2: Free to Wear zero zero? I watched no Free to

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Speaker 2: Wear No. I'm streaming like I watched Severance. I'm addicted

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Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 2: They need to turn into a streaming platform and invest

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Speaker 2: in some great Australian creators. Basically like Deadlock was a

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Speaker 2: fantastic series funded by Amazon Prime and it's shot in

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Speaker 2: Tasmania by Kate McCartney. Kate mcclennan to hilarious committent. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's one of my favorite TV Jedlock for.

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Speaker 1: Me was one of the most fabulous series Australian shows

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Speaker 1: that I have seen to date, and I absolutely am

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Speaker 1: hanging for series two. I know, because I just loved

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Speaker 1: it so so much, and yet I don't believe it

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Speaker 2: It absolutely didn't.

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Speaker 1: Why are we not singing that from the rafters? That

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Speaker 2: It was so funny and also it just ticked the

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Speaker 2: crime box for me because you were like, absolutely, but

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Speaker 2: who done it?

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Speaker 1: When she walked in there with the Hawaiian shirt on

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Speaker 2: End as a police case Like it was fantastic too,

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Speaker 2: And I go to me, that's what television used to

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Speaker 2: be growing up. But it's on a Friday, you'd watch

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Speaker 2: Kath and Kim and then you could watch the Block

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Speaker 2: and then you big Brother up Blake with Gretel Colleen

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Speaker 2: they don't exist anymore. I want everything right now fast,

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Speaker 2: but we want it really example, which is on Apple TV.

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Speaker 2: I hate that it is on every Friday. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'll watch them all at the same time like that,

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Speaker 2: because I want it now. I'm in. But what they've

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Speaker 2: prolongs that. So I'm actually loving going back to a

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Speaker 2: the new season two of Wednesday and you drop all

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Speaker 1: Kind of like, oh, I would get so cranky and

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Speaker 1: I worry that maths Now has set the standard that

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Speaker 1: I'm becoming really annoyed with It's not something I'm going

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Speaker 2: So what did you like about the concept of the show?

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Speaker 1: Initially? Oh, it was fabulous. It was two couples never met,

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Speaker 1: they'd seen each other, and then it was what they did.

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Speaker 1: Then moving forward, how they got to know each other intimacy,

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Speaker 1: show's all about. I want to know how they handle challenges.

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Speaker 1: I want to know all of that type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And this season they had them literally on a stool

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Speaker 1: and it was what was that It was part of

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Speaker 2: Week where couples massage each other.

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Speaker 1: It was something that we hadn't seen in previous years.

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Speaker 2: Nound that bad? Like, what's causing a guy to punch

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Speaker 1: Well apparently and not having been in privy to that conversation.

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Speaker 1: She had shared with him a previous relationship and intimacy,

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Speaker 1: and with that he's completely lost the plot.

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Speaker 2: Previous is in during the show.

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Speaker 1: No outside of the show.

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Speaker 2: Before they she has sex with anyone else.

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Speaker 1: So he's lost the plot and put his hand through

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Speaker 2: I met this woman, yeah, six weeks and she said,

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Speaker 1: Yep, he's lost the plot. And through the wall he went,

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Speaker 1: and it has completely turned. I can't watch it anymore.

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Speaker 2: When we spoke, when you glued to the television convincing

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Speaker 1: Well that was it was Tim.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And when Tim saw yeah, get her name, I.

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Speaker 1: Want to say Heidi, but I don't believe it is hid.

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Speaker 2: But then I was so like, yeah, this is how

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Speaker 2: on Tim's side. I thought what he did was awful

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Speaker 2: It's then they have staff assigned to each character. They've

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, But they're not editing the footage like that. They're

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Speaker 2: they're building an unreal Everyone was saying, watch the show unreal,

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Speaker 1: What's about bost It's plot at the end, but the

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Speaker 1: beginning of it was all about a relationship show. It's

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Speaker 1: the achula, yeah, and then it's the manipulation that you

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Speaker 1: into people's mouths and building on that, and that was

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Speaker 1: very good TV.

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Speaker 2: Because that was written by one of the top producers

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Speaker 2: of The Bachelorette in America. I think she stepped away

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Speaker 2: from the job, went this is ridiculous, wrote out about it.

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Speaker 1: But I think we are intrigued as humans on how

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Speaker 1: other humans interact with people and their way in which

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Speaker 1: they get around the Earth. Survivor. Yeah, that's a game

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Speaker 1: of skill. That's a mental game there, not only the elements,

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Speaker 1: but you're trying to find it lose alone. I can't

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Speaker 2: I can't either.

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Speaker 1: It freaks me out.

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Speaker 2: I know someone who's I don't know. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: someone who's going on it.

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Speaker 1: really cranky. The next thing is peepee guns are out

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Speaker 1: and about the old security is called and it's like

434
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Speaker 1: she's ushered out of this building and taken away because

435
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Speaker 1: of the danger.

436
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 2: But she's also like, oh, we're going to go out

437
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 2: for dinner at this restaurant and people will call ahead

438
00:21:37,441 --> 00:21:39,001
Speaker 2: and so don't let her come in. Yeah, and so

439
00:21:39,041 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 2: the restaurant doesn't know her come in.

440
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like well, c La is actually barred literally barred

441
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: from Harold's.

442
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 2: I live for them.

443
00:21:46,481 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 1: I live for that.

444
00:21:47,201 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 2: Have you been to oh, David Jones on stell.

445
00:21:50,001 --> 00:21:50,801
Speaker 1: Have you been to Harrod?

446
00:21:51,441 --> 00:21:54,041
Speaker 2: I love Harrod. The only thing I could have feeled

447
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,721
Speaker 2: was the tote bag, the Harod's tote bag.

448
00:21:57,001 --> 00:22:00,281
Speaker 1: The food hall. We have fishing chips down. Oh god,

449
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 1: it was amazing. I said to Rick, don't order up Beach.

450
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: She doesn't give me how vibe.

451
00:22:06,521 --> 00:22:10,321
Speaker 1: She's a self Fridges girl. She loves her Selfridges. It's

452
00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:11,761
Speaker 1: another bougie.

453
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, lives other new form of entertainment and people are

454
00:22:16,921 --> 00:22:18,881
Speaker 2: riveted by them. And see, this is the thing, going

455
00:22:18,921 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 2: back to Maths is television has lost its spy, lost

456
00:22:22,681 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: it shine. I don't think there's a weight can recover.

457
00:22:25,561 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: And even radio, and I've seen countless articles about you

458
00:22:29,001 --> 00:22:32,281
Speaker 2: know all this company's paired with this revolutionizing radio.

459
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Speaker 1: What I miss in television not that I watch a

460
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,801
Speaker 1: great deal of live television. I mean I watch PD

461
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,761
Speaker 1: Channel nine News six o'clock every night on Oh that's

462
00:22:40,801 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: the PEP love my PD.

463
00:22:43,961 --> 00:22:45,841
Speaker 2: The news anchor Insidney, and I will.

464
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,321
Speaker 1: Only watch PD for new. So they've lost the characters.

465
00:22:49,481 --> 00:22:53,281
Speaker 1: There's no characters anymore. Like you know yesterday Kerry An

466
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:58,721
Speaker 1: Kennellysion in the midday show. Like they had Kerry Ane Kenneley.

467
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,961
Speaker 2: Remember the show Beauty and the Beast, Stanza Manic. It

468
00:23:02,041 --> 00:23:04,721
Speaker 2: was an awful person. And then they had Jennie Little

469
00:23:04,801 --> 00:23:07,801
Speaker 2: was on it, Genie Little, These amazing women.

470
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:09,881
Speaker 1: They're gone now.

471
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 2: But it's not that they're gone, where are they? But

472
00:23:12,681 --> 00:23:16,841
Speaker 2: it's now like we consume entertainment from I mean, i'd

473
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,321
Speaker 2: say you're sitting across from one stop it like, you know,

474
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,441
Speaker 2: like we consume entertainment from such a wide variety of things.

475
00:23:25,721 --> 00:23:29,801
Speaker 2: You can't ever have someone like Genie Little Again, all

476
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,801
Speaker 2: our eyeballs were focused on TV because that's all we had.

477
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: We didn't have phones. We couldn't just watch whatever was

478
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,801
Speaker 2: happening in America in the UK.

479
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,681
Speaker 1: At the time live. But we're watching things live now,

480
00:23:40,721 --> 00:23:43,121
Speaker 1: whereas before it would have been filtered through we would

481
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Speaker 1: have seen it.

482
00:23:44,041 --> 00:23:46,921
Speaker 2: I mean, and The Beast was live. Radio was live,

483
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,681
Speaker 2: like that's where we got that excitement from.

484
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Speaker 1: But not at the level of what we have now.

485
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: We were so we're so spoilt. Now there's an abundance.

486
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, we're spoilt for choice because.

487
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Speaker 2: Radio, whatever they wanted to show us was the only

488
00:24:01,481 --> 00:24:02,761
Speaker 2: thing we could choose to watch.

489
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember back in the day,

490
00:24:05,281 --> 00:24:09,041
Speaker 1: two GB and two UI they were the only channels.

491
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,241
Speaker 1: I remember going to sleep at night because I needed

492
00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: something in my ear and that was Stanza Manic. Yeah,

493
00:24:14,801 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: and I would be outraged at some of the things

494
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,561
Speaker 1: even back then, Like I mean.

495
00:24:18,521 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 2: Look at fucking created monk Alan Jones, John Laws and

496
00:24:22,441 --> 00:24:23,761
Speaker 2: the power that they.

497
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: Have immense power and ran that town there was just

498
00:24:27,961 --> 00:24:28,201
Speaker 1: a lot.

499
00:24:28,241 --> 00:24:31,241
Speaker 2: And also Alan Jones is now currently sitting in a

500
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Speaker 2: prison cell awaiting trial for sexual harassment.

501
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,281
Speaker 1: Now I think what happens if do we just not

502
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: watch TV anymore and they shut down? What are they

503
00:24:40,001 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: going to do? Like, how do you then inject all

504
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:46,241
Speaker 1: those characters back into to make television?

505
00:24:47,001 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: You can't, but we've got raging Low.

506
00:24:49,801 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: But you're gonna have to because TV is never going

507
00:24:51,921 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: to go away.

508
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,201
Speaker 2: It's never gonna be what it was. Cut the cord

509
00:24:55,241 --> 00:24:58,881
Speaker 2: for the Internet, then what have we got? Television? That's it?

510
00:24:59,241 --> 00:25:03,921
Speaker 2: But you've still got these characters. It's basically an unkept

511
00:25:04,041 --> 00:25:07,241
Speaker 2: and ungate kept market. You know, like Kath and Kim

512
00:25:07,281 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: would have to rock up and pitch Kath and Kim.

513
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,161
Speaker 2: And now you look at Kate McCartney and Kate McClellan.

514
00:25:13,721 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: They just produced a series called The Catering Show. It

515
00:25:17,681 --> 00:25:21,001
Speaker 2: went on YouTube, It exploded on YouTube. Then from there

516
00:25:21,041 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: they did get Cracking, which was funded by I mean,

517
00:25:24,001 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: it was on the ABC, and then they were writing

518
00:25:26,921 --> 00:25:30,241
Speaker 2: and then the Deadlock series has been funded. So it's

519
00:25:30,241 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: sort of like they have these opportunity. It's still very

520
00:25:33,241 --> 00:25:35,441
Speaker 2: hard for them. I'm not discrediting anything that they've done,

521
00:25:35,441 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: but it's like, we can put stuff on YouTube. We

522
00:25:38,441 --> 00:25:42,281
Speaker 2: don't need to go to someone to ask them, whereas

523
00:25:42,441 --> 00:25:45,281
Speaker 2: back in the day it's so gate keped by old

524
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: white men who were like, this will be funny, and

525
00:25:48,721 --> 00:25:52,041
Speaker 2: so they create the characters. They would create all you know,

526
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: the Burt Newton's, the carry Ann's right, and now we

527
00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:58,521
Speaker 2: can do it ourselves. I did it myself. I wasn't

528
00:25:58,521 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: allowed to go on radio because I was too gay,

529
00:26:01,201 --> 00:26:03,281
Speaker 2: and so I just was like, well, I'll just put

530
00:26:03,321 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: some videos up and then you know, I built a profile,

531
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: which I wouldn't have been able to do otherwise. Same

532
00:26:09,681 --> 00:26:11,801
Speaker 2: for a lot of friends of mine. Tony and Ryan

533
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: famous podcasters. They both worked in radio forever and Tony

534
00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:18,001
Speaker 2: was the same, like she was like, oh, I'm going

535
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,801
Speaker 2: to be on air. They're like no, And then as

536
00:26:19,801 --> 00:26:23,241
Speaker 2: soon as they left radio and started their own podcast.

537
00:26:23,441 --> 00:26:27,001
Speaker 2: It's now consistently in the top ten in Australia. It's

538
00:26:27,041 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: blown up in the States they are making I mean,

539
00:26:29,761 --> 00:26:31,321
Speaker 2: we can all assume they're making a lot of money,

540
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,001
Speaker 2: and they've done this all by themselves. They're now characters.

541
00:26:36,201 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: But because they're not on television that everyone's watching them,

542
00:26:39,321 --> 00:26:41,041
Speaker 2: you don't know about them. You wouldn't know about them

543
00:26:41,041 --> 00:26:44,361
Speaker 2: because they're not hated for you. No, but they're huge.

544
00:26:45,041 --> 00:26:46,161
Speaker 1: Wow, good for them.

545
00:26:46,441 --> 00:26:49,601
Speaker 2: That's where the characters are. We have access to everyone.

546
00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:52,801
Speaker 2: There's your Carry Anne's and your Burt Newton's.

547
00:26:53,761 --> 00:26:56,041
Speaker 1: But YouTube. Talk to me about YouTube. How long ago

548
00:26:56,241 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: was it that you started YouTube?

549
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,681
Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen?

550
00:26:59,001 --> 00:27:01,761
Speaker 1: Okay, now I've seen it, little YouTube. You've got a

551
00:27:01,801 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: plaq over there with the little thing. How did you

552
00:27:04,721 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: get What were your numbers to get that?

553
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: YouTube is pretty much a dead platform for me, but

554
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:09,761
Speaker 2: one hundred.

555
00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:13,041
Speaker 1: Still they're saying that YouTube's making a resurgence.

556
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,121
Speaker 2: We agree. I think it's making a resurgeonce. I don't

557
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: think it's ever dropped off. I think what we watch

558
00:27:18,521 --> 00:27:21,761
Speaker 2: and view may have dropped off. So we disappear. But

559
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,121
Speaker 2: when we disappear for a section of time and new

560
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:28,001
Speaker 2: demographics coming in, so your gamers come in and we

561
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,561
Speaker 2: get a bit bored and we disappear. But then we

562
00:27:30,681 --> 00:27:35,001
Speaker 2: come back. I think YouTube has always been consistently very strong.

563
00:27:35,721 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: The reason why I think it's going to be massive

564
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: is they've redesigned the app to be a lot like

565
00:27:42,721 --> 00:27:45,601
Speaker 2: Netflix because a lot of people will sit and want

566
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: to watch longer form content on television and YouTube is

567
00:27:49,521 --> 00:27:52,761
Speaker 2: not a great platform to navigate off the TV, and

568
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: so they're building it. You can watch documentaries and so

569
00:27:56,761 --> 00:28:00,041
Speaker 2: it's all these things, and you can watch certain creators

570
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: and they're going to build or think they're currently building

571
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,281
Speaker 2: a platform to make it a lot easier. I am

572
00:28:04,321 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: trying to do.

573
00:28:05,561 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: Ricardo and I will watch. If we look at a

574
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: cruise that we want to go on, we'll actually go

575
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: on yes to YouTube and we will bring up the

576
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: cruise ship and watch it and decide from that visual

577
00:28:15,201 --> 00:28:18,281
Speaker 1: chat GP is. It's fantastic. We do that all the time.

578
00:28:18,321 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm constantly looking, for instance, these microphones that

579
00:28:22,201 --> 00:28:25,081
Speaker 2: we're holding. I know there's a feature where you can

580
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,841
Speaker 2: record back up audio in case something goes wrong. It's

581
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: tup it into YouTube. I want this and that you

582
00:28:31,721 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: know someone's made a tutorial on it. There it is,

583
00:28:33,961 --> 00:28:35,361
Speaker 2: and then they talk you through it, and then I've

584
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:38,641
Speaker 2: turned it on and it saved us at the fucking restaurant.

585
00:28:38,641 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: Because my phone died, we lost all that recording, so

586
00:28:41,481 --> 00:28:42,641
Speaker 2: I use the backup recording.

587
00:28:42,881 --> 00:28:45,001
Speaker 1: See. One thing I hate doing is asking the boys

588
00:28:45,121 --> 00:28:45,601
Speaker 1: is anything?

589
00:28:45,801 --> 00:28:50,921
Speaker 2: And I just refer to YouTube, thankly, because you know

590
00:28:50,961 --> 00:28:53,441
Speaker 2: what would happen at work? Christiana? How do you do that?

591
00:28:53,721 --> 00:28:56,841
Speaker 2: I don't know? Google it Google? Go to Google? Why

592
00:28:56,841 --> 00:28:59,121
Speaker 2: are you asking? Go to Google? And then whenever I

593
00:28:59,161 --> 00:29:00,121
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know how to do?

594
00:29:00,161 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: You know what?

595
00:29:00,481 --> 00:29:02,121
Speaker 2: I was going to Google? It to YouTube?

596
00:29:02,321 --> 00:29:03,401
Speaker 1: YouTube and rather.

597
00:29:03,281 --> 00:29:06,561
Speaker 2: Than Mum for the million time, so I know you

598
00:29:06,561 --> 00:29:09,161
Speaker 2: explained to me. But how do I cook this? What

599
00:29:09,201 --> 00:29:12,601
Speaker 2: does fan forced me into the Googs? I'll call them

600
00:29:12,601 --> 00:29:14,321
Speaker 2: mom every now and then so she feels needed.

601
00:29:14,481 --> 00:29:17,121
Speaker 1: Of course you would, So do you lean still to

602
00:29:17,441 --> 00:29:19,441
Speaker 1: the Google or do you go to chat gpt?

603
00:29:20,761 --> 00:29:25,801
Speaker 2: It's Calum a columb because Google now has this AI feature,

604
00:29:26,241 --> 00:29:29,041
Speaker 2: so you type the question in and it's almost like

605
00:29:29,321 --> 00:29:32,041
Speaker 2: knowing that their days are number that they're competing with

606
00:29:32,121 --> 00:29:34,481
Speaker 2: chat gpt, so they've got their own Google Gemini I

607
00:29:34,521 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: think it's called, and it gives me an answer. But

608
00:29:37,441 --> 00:29:40,761
Speaker 2: for things like a lot of finance questions, I know

609
00:29:40,801 --> 00:29:43,761
Speaker 2: it's controversial to use chat GPT, and the energy consumption

610
00:29:43,881 --> 00:29:44,601
Speaker 2: is astronomical.

611
00:29:44,761 --> 00:29:46,921
Speaker 1: I was blown away by that this morning. That didn't

612
00:29:46,961 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: even enter my head that the energy use.

613
00:29:49,081 --> 00:29:52,281
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like the amount of water used to power

614
00:29:52,321 --> 00:29:55,481
Speaker 2: the search engines that are computing your query into chat

615
00:29:55,521 --> 00:29:59,121
Speaker 2: GPT is quite substantial. So it's like when you ask

616
00:29:59,201 --> 00:30:02,281
Speaker 2: chat GPT question it's not great and then everyone's like,

617
00:30:02,281 --> 00:30:03,801
Speaker 2: what do you mean it's not good for the environment.

618
00:30:03,841 --> 00:30:07,881
Speaker 2: It's because the proces sing power needed for an AI

619
00:30:08,401 --> 00:30:11,761
Speaker 2: to then just you know, spit out a very complicated

620
00:30:12,121 --> 00:30:15,521
Speaker 2: response to you. But that's really handy. Oh I can't.

621
00:30:15,521 --> 00:30:17,801
Speaker 2: I asked, I want to pay my mortgage off in

622
00:30:17,961 --> 00:30:20,881
Speaker 2: three years. Here's what I'm earning, here's the tax brackets,

623
00:30:20,881 --> 00:30:23,281
Speaker 2: and here's my location, and can you tell me? And

624
00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:25,641
Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, cool, you'll need to earn one

625
00:30:25,681 --> 00:30:28,761
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars a year to pay it off.

626
00:30:29,481 --> 00:30:33,561
Speaker 1: I put into chat GBT. I said, so you know me, now,

627
00:30:33,801 --> 00:30:39,081
Speaker 1: what type of business ideas would you recommend for me

628
00:30:39,121 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: to try? Well, it's spat up all these things from.

629
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, what did it am?

630
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Speaker 3: You?

631
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Speaker 2: All right?

632
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Speaker 1: So it said that because I like journaling, so I

633
00:30:50,521 --> 00:30:53,521
Speaker 1: write things down. Yeah, so I've got a book at

634
00:30:53,521 --> 00:30:55,761
Speaker 1: home that I put all my thoughts, feelings, and emotions

635
00:30:55,761 --> 00:30:56,081
Speaker 1: down it.

636
00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:58,561
Speaker 2: Do you mispronounce words in that? Oh?

637
00:30:58,601 --> 00:31:01,081
Speaker 1: I do I spell incorrectly? The way I speak is

638
00:31:01,081 --> 00:31:04,761
Speaker 1: the way I write. And it came up with prompted journaling.

639
00:31:05,081 --> 00:31:07,841
Speaker 1: Why not come up with your own promptu journaling book?

640
00:31:08,481 --> 00:31:10,561
Speaker 2: How you came up with Yes, we'll chat top.

641
00:31:11,361 --> 00:31:14,561
Speaker 1: And then it said too that because of the loss

642
00:31:14,601 --> 00:31:17,921
Speaker 1: of my mum and my brother, grief a grief journaling,

643
00:31:18,121 --> 00:31:20,881
Speaker 1: grief journal So it prompted me to do that, and

644
00:31:20,881 --> 00:31:23,201
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, wouldn't mind that. But then it talked

645
00:31:23,241 --> 00:31:27,321
Speaker 1: about me wanting to empower women my age that feel invisible,

646
00:31:27,441 --> 00:31:30,001
Speaker 1: that now that the kids are growing, that they're off

647
00:31:30,081 --> 00:31:32,721
Speaker 1: doing their own thing, you kind of lose your way.

648
00:31:33,041 --> 00:31:35,881
Speaker 1: So they talked about, you know, coming up with workshops,

649
00:31:36,281 --> 00:31:39,921
Speaker 1: possibly doing styling women styling in clothes because you can't

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Speaker 1: be invisible, and I thought that was great. Also, two

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Speaker 1: came up with a glasses one.

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Speaker 2: Oh, everyone comments anytime I make a post with you

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Speaker 2: that comment about yours, I say, Oscar Wiley.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, Yeah, Oscar Wiley I would love the

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Speaker 1: face of your glasses.

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Speaker 2: I had a podcast called Complete Drivel. I loved that

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Speaker 2: seven years and not once did I get really a

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Speaker 2: good sponsorship. But I thought, you know what we'll do.

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Speaker 2: I did a segment called all I Would do is

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Speaker 2: just go brevel Juicer, brevel Juicer, brevel Juicer, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, I'm just going to do this for a

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Speaker 2: little bit and then wait for Revel to give me

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Speaker 2: a ducer. And I can tell you did it for

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Speaker 2: two and a half years, not a single email or beveljuicer?

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: So I would say oscar while ask a while, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not name.

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Speaker 1: So then I thought, what buggy is? I want to

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Speaker 1: make my own and I don't know how to change

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Speaker 1: my tease.

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Speaker 2: Really, I find it really good to just prod you

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Speaker 2: for things, because I'll go doing a podcast with Chrissy

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Speaker 2: it's lighthearted. What are some segment ideas on relationships? I

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Speaker 2: sent you a lot of ideas and you were like,

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Speaker 2: this is a bit deep and personal and a bit sad.

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, yeah, this isn't it. Put it into

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Speaker 2: chat jpten, go what would a funny version of this be?

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Speaker 2: And then it tells you. You're like, ah, right, but

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Speaker 2: I'll change this and I'll do this, and I find

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Speaker 2: it really good. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love chat GPTE And now I feel really bad

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Speaker 1: that it's taking up so much, so do I. But

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Speaker 1: I really find it a very useful tool, especially when

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Speaker 1: like I'll type in how I'm feeling that day, I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling like I've got all these things passing me by.

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Speaker 1: Have you got any ideas? And it comes up with this.

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Speaker 1: I completely understand where you're coming from. It knows you

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Speaker 1: personally because you've put so much shit into it.

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Speaker 2: This is where I struggle to get my head around it.

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Speaker 2: I keep seeing it as a Google search, so Matt,

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Speaker 2: and because I've got a profile on it, like you

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Speaker 2: log in, you create a profile, It's memorized every single

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Speaker 2: search that I've made, and it's brought others back in.

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Speaker 2: It goes well, Christian, you were talking about this before.

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Speaker 2: If this is still on the table and you're still

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Speaker 2: going to the Sunny Coast, bubbah, here's this And I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: how did it? It's like I'm talking to a person,

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Speaker 2: And then I remember I asked you for some ideas

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Speaker 2: for the podcast. I got a copy and paste from

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Speaker 2: chat GPT and I was like, Christine, you could have

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Speaker 2: at least reformatted it so it looked like you typed.

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Speaker 2: The response was like, oh, here are some ideas for

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Speaker 2: a podcast. I was like, Christine, I'd love some ideas

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Speaker 2: from you.

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Speaker 1: All right, so I'm just typing in now as we speak. Yeah, wasting,

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Speaker 1: sorry about but explain Chrissy fifty and cranky. Right, That's

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Speaker 1: all I've put. Explain Chrissy fifty and cranky. Chrissy fifty

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Speaker 1: and cranky is your social media handle, and it reflects

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Speaker 1: a fun, bold, and relatable persona. It suggests a mixture

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Speaker 1: of humor, honesty, and a bit of attitude, likely resonating

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Speaker 1: with women over fifty who appreciate candid takes on life,

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Speaker 1: aging and the things that annoy them. The name has

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Speaker 1: a strong personality, making it memorable and engaging, especially for

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Speaker 1: content that challenges stereotypes, embraces authenticity, and empowers women to

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Speaker 1: be seen and heard.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, what does it saying about me?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go for you. Now. We'll use a

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Speaker 1: little icon heat so I can speak and start it

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Speaker 1: rather than typing. Explain Christian whole here we go. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna have a little think, pump some water through the pipes.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, You ready. Christian Hull is

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Speaker 1: an Australian comedian, content creator and a podcaster known for

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Speaker 1: his unfiltered humor, relatable rants, and hilarious takes on everyday life.

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Speaker 1: He's gained popularity through social media, particularly Facebook and TikTok,

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Speaker 1: where his comedic skits, skits, sketches, older ego, Trish, see

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Speaker 1: it those.

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Speaker 2: Trees, Oh i'n't Atrician so long.

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Speaker 1: Commentary on Australian culture, resonating with a wide audience. He's

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Speaker 1: also built a strong brand around being unapologetically himself, often

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Speaker 1: discussing topics like mental health, sexuality, and the struggles of

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Speaker 1: adulthood with a mixture of humor and honesty. His podcast

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Speaker 1: Complete Drivel has been successful and he has expanded into

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Speaker 1: merchandising and live shows.

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Speaker 2: What's clearing It Up? To date, it's been.

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Speaker 1: Cancer launching a podcast with him?

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Speaker 2: Ooh did it say that? Yes, it just said to you.

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Speaker 1: Since you're launching a podcast with him, it sounds like

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Speaker 1: an exciting opportunity to tap into his audience and bring

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Speaker 1: your own unique perspective to the mix. How are you

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Speaker 1: feeling about the collaboration?

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Speaker 2: Can you write? Give me it, give me a phone.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to write. I want to write.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm unsure I want to I'm worried he has

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Speaker 3: skeletons in the closet.

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Speaker 2: Can you find any?

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Speaker 1: Here we go go searching the web, pumping the water

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Speaker 1: through that.

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Speaker 2: I understand your concerns. What what do you mean you

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Speaker 2: understand about potential issues that could affect your collaboration with

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Speaker 2: Christian Hull. Based on the available information, there are no

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Speaker 2: indications well done, well done, any controversies or problematic behavior

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00:36:59,921 --> 00:37:03,241
Speaker 2: associated with him, Thank God. In fact, he has been

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Speaker 2: actively involved in advocating for LGBT writes, notably highlighting discriminatory

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Speaker 2: practices at City Point Christian College. Ad Incently, Christian Hill

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Speaker 2: has been transparent about his special blah blah blah blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Now I'm gonna ask it. Given this information,

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Speaker 2: it appears that Christian Hull maintains a positive public image

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Speaker 2: and there is no evidence of any concerning behavior that

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Speaker 2: should impact your decision. I'm worried about nudity. Does he

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Speaker 2: have an only fans?

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Speaker 1: Let's see if it picks up that which I do

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Speaker 1: we go?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Christian Hull, the Australian Commits launched an only Fans

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Speaker 2: account in early twenty twenty three. Yeah right, Okay. You

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Speaker 2: know what's really interesting here is it spits out this

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Speaker 2: really well formed paragraph and cites the articles of which

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Speaker 2: it's collected that information from, and then sort of like

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Speaker 2: we've been open about his struggles with body image and

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Speaker 2: credits public figures like Sam Smith, which is crazy? Should

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Speaker 2: I start an only fans too?

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Speaker 1: Here we go?

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Speaker 2: Here we go. GPT says it depends on your goals

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Speaker 2: and comfort level. Only fans isn't just for adult content.

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Speaker 2: It's also used for exclusive behind the scenes blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Since your brand is about empowering women over fifty blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. It's basically said, please, for whatever you do,

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Speaker 2: keep your clothes on.

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Speaker 1: Ricardo will be so grateful you could have made so

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Speaker 1: much money. I think fake is the go I.

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Speaker 2: Think we've really waffled on for a very long period

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Speaker 2: of time here. To summarize what we started talking about,

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Speaker 2: math's equals.

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Speaker 1: Bad and by all means don't watch.

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Speaker 2: On the next episode of We Will Always Have.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you have enough ful? How much am I

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Speaker 1: supposed to take?

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Speaker 2: Curiously between your legs. Just you just have a spoonful.

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Speaker 1: It's just a heat spoonful, a level spoonful

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Speaker 2: A heat heat quite a large one into the mouth

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