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Speaker 1: On scoring leaves Australia. This is the Wider Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panicky Show. I'm Danikiti,

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Speaker 2: Giorgio filling In coming up tonight, Albow announcers, an anti

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Speaker 2: Semitism envoy, but it's a little.

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Speaker 3: Too late for that.

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Speaker 2: Nurses fight back against hospital policy that allows biological men

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Speaker 2: to use their change rooms. Stephanie Bastian will join us

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Speaker 2: for more. All the Laters from the US with Josh Hammer,

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Speaker 2: including Biden's upcoming Big Boy Conference and Darren Grimes ways

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Speaker 2: in on the new British Prime Minister and his even

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Speaker 2: woker cabinet, plus Lefty's losing it with a very special

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Speaker 2: message from Whoopee Goldberg on Biden's decline.

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Speaker 4: I don't care if he's Coolfta's pants. I don't care

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Speaker 4: if he can't put a sentence together.

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Speaker 2: Joy Now is the Herald Sons senior writer Patrick Carly

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Speaker 2: and Patrick thanks for joining us. Young labor branches are

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Speaker 2: revolting against the treatment of rogue senator Fatima payment by

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Speaker 2: the alban Easy government. Now The Australian is reporting that

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's foundational faction, the New South Wales.

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Speaker 3: Young Labor Left will actually.

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Speaker 2: Host Senator Payment as a special guest in a forum

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Speaker 2: next week to Remote to promote the cause of Palestine,

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Speaker 2: despite of course her resignation from the party. Now, I

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Speaker 2: am definitely not a supporter of Senator payment, but ge

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Speaker 2: Labor are in a world of pain over this.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that's the right way of putting it.

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Speaker 5: It is a world of pain. And I think this

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Speaker 5: is just the start when you've seen all these pro

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Speaker 5: Palestine sort of forces coalescing and it sounds like it

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Speaker 5: was quite planned in the last few weeks and it's

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Speaker 5: all sort of coming to a head.

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Speaker 6: Now you have the.

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Speaker 5: Young ALP activists who are pushing payment and pushing what

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Speaker 5: she's saying. And the problem for a government is that

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Speaker 5: you cannot They've got conflicting priorities here. They've got to

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Speaker 5: govern for the national interest and at the same time

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Speaker 5: they're trying to pander to those pro Palestine elements in

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Speaker 5: those seats in Sydney and Melbourne and elsewhere that really

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Speaker 5: could swing dramatically. And this is fascinating. This is a

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Speaker 5: real moment in Australian politics and the next election as

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Speaker 5: to see as to seeing how far and how significant

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Speaker 5: this will be in determining results.

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, you know, particularly in the event of a

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Speaker 2: minority government. What does that mean? And I really believe

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Speaker 2: that Fatima payment is going to have a lot of

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Speaker 2: influence and the policies that we're going to see coming

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Speaker 2: up now. Anthony Albanesi has appointed lawyer and business executive

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Speaker 2: Jillian Siegel as Australia's inaugural Anti Semitism Special Envoy.

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Speaker 3: Here is what the Prime Minister had to say earlier.

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Speaker 7: I have spoken with members of the Jewish community who

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Speaker 7: have not felt safe members of the Jewish community. His

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Speaker 7: children are worried about wearing their school uniform in our

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Speaker 3: That's not acceptable, Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Since October seven, Australia's social cohesion really has descended into chaos.

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Speaker 2: We no anti Semitism is rife. The Prime Ministerlian ministers

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Speaker 2: have been largely silent as to not upset voters in

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Speaker 2: key seats with high Muslim populations. I'm hopeful that this

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Speaker 2: envoy will change that. But why now it's just a

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Speaker 2: little too late.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, it's certainly too late, and hopefully it's not

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Speaker 5: too little. I mean what we saw Elbow saying that

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Speaker 5: he should have been saying that on October fifteen last year,

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Speaker 5: eight months ago. The anti Semitism has been unchecked in

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Speaker 5: down hard in sort of saying well, hang on, this

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Speaker 5: is not who we are, this is what we're about.

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Speaker 5: I think this is a welcome development with the special end.

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Speaker 5: I like thought she had to say earlier today she

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Speaker 5: talked about anti Semitism being an age old hatred. She

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Speaker 5: talked about it having no place in a freedom, in

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Speaker 5: be vigilant. And we have not been vigilant in stenting

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Speaker 5: this since October last year. And look it is too late,

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Speaker 5: but hopefully it makes a difference.

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Speaker 2: Look fingers crossed it does now, how is this for

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Speaker 2: a cash grab? Woolworths has announced it will restock Australian

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Speaker 2: because quote, the Australian flag is the official flag of

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Speaker 2: the Australian Olympic Committee and of our team competing in Paris.

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Speaker 2: So Patrick, the Australian flag is an Australian flag when

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Speaker 2: it's not Australia Day.

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Speaker 5: Well, when there's a buck in it, I think really,

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Speaker 5: you know they're sponsoring the Olympics. As you said, they

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Speaker 5: want people to go to woolies and look, I think

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Speaker 5: most people will be very cynical about this. This this

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Speaker 5: is a cash grab. As some of the conservative politicians

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Speaker 5: have been saying, you can't have it both ways. You

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Speaker 5: can't virtue signal and say that Australia is divisive and

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Speaker 5: by inference as is the Australian flag and then sort

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Speaker 5: of proudly call yourselves proudly Australian retailer and suddenly say

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Speaker 5: we've got these flags and we want you to be

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Speaker 5: patriotic because you might buy our flags. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: think most Australians see through this for what it is,

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Speaker 5: the big er lay back on Australia by basically saying

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Speaker 5: Australia is divisive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they only want the Australian flags and when they

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Speaker 2: they're an absolute disgrace for words that always have been

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Speaker 2: Now Green Senator Marine Feruki, you know, the one who

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Speaker 2: couldn't quite bring herself to say whether Hamas should be

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Speaker 5: This HMAS need to be dismantled.

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Speaker 8: It has nothing to do with Palestinian statehood and Palestinian self.

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Speaker 3: The question was this must have dismantled. The Palestinians need

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Speaker 5: If they choose AMUS.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, David, that is such. What can I say,

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Speaker 3: like should it be dismantled?

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Speaker 8: Hamas is an organization that exists in the region that

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Speaker 3: Surely you're able to say whether you'd like to see

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Speaker 3: them gone. I mean, it's not up to meet. It's

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Speaker 3: an absolute disgrace.

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Speaker 2: Well, Marina Ferruki is set to reap an eight hundred

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Speaker 3: Now, Patrick, the irony in all of.

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Speaker 2: This is that she recently described the housing system in

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Speaker 2: Australia as one that sees millions screwed over while banks

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Speaker 2: and property developers make an absolute killing off the misery

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Speaker 2: of others, but clearly not for her.

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Speaker 5: Well, basically, I think she has three or four investment

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Speaker 5: properties in Australia and she's been very strong in saying,

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Speaker 5: of others. She's one of them, and she's been sort

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Speaker 5: And look, this is a fascinating story. It comes off

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Speaker 5: the back of the Hamas inability to condemn Hamas the

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Speaker 2: I don't think she's been having a good week for

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Speaker 2: a long time. In fact, I think the Greens have

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Speaker 3: Now, France's far.

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Speaker 2: Right leader Marine la Penn has joined forces with the

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Speaker 2: of course, this comes after the Penn's party came third

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Speaker 2: in the France election, and now we're seeing these chaotic

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Speaker 3: But what do you think this new alliance means?

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Speaker 5: Well, look, I think it's perhaps it's an early chapter

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Speaker 5: in the change that you're sort of been waiting for

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Speaker 5: for a long time. It's been run by very leftis

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Speaker 5: and Hungary. I think there's twelve countries represented in this

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Speaker 5: in this block basically, and they talk about retaking institutions,

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Speaker 5: they talk about retaking the borders. I mean a lot

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Speaker 5: of Europeans have been very upset about immigration rates, about

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Speaker 5: this is the penduluance of swinging back, if you like.

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Speaker 5: And we have to wait to see whether it swings

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Speaker 5: back too far. But it's certainly it's overdue, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's definitely overdue.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the scenes we're seeing right now across

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Speaker 2: France are just frightening, really, and it's you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it could be could it be happening here next?

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Speaker 3: We just simply don't know.

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Speaker 2: Now to the US, where Donald Trump is distancing himself

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Speaker 2: from the so called Project twenty twenty five aimed at

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Speaker 2: overhauling the federal government. Now it's been authored by some

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Speaker 2: But Patrick, why do you think that Trump is trying

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Speaker 2: really hard to distance himself from this.

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Speaker 5: Well, you look at Trump at the moment, he's been

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Speaker 5: half than he has been for years. There's a good

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Speaker 5: reason for that. He doesn't want to take the attention

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Speaker 5: away from Joe Biden and the Democrats eating themselves up

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Speaker 5: by trying whether the conundrum of whether they keep an

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Speaker 5: unelectable candidate as their candidate. Look, I think he's being

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Speaker 5: very dishonest in distancing himself from this. Some of his

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Speaker 5: it stands to alienate potentially some of those right wing

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Speaker 5: It would scare some of the right of sender voters.

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Speaker 5: And he doesn't need to do that at the moment.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't need to do anything at all. He'd rather

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Speaker 5: have all the attention on Joe Biden and whether he

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Speaker 2: Well, that's sort of been Joe Biden's doing all the

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Speaker 2: to try. So you raise a good point. Now, we

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Speaker 2: saw over night that Russia launched its largest missile attack

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Speaker 2: as well as other sites across the country. Patrick, we

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Speaker 2: it now time to step up more support for Ukraine

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Speaker 2: among Western nations?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? Look, I think poor Ukraine has sort of got

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Speaker 5: lost a bid in the whole Gaza story, hasn't it.

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Speaker 5: Certainly for the since October. It's a democracy. It was

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Speaker 5: fighting the Nazis in World War Two and then the

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Speaker 5: Russian ever since, on and off. It is a democratic

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Speaker 5: country that believes in freedoms. Vladimir Putin is not going

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Speaker 5: to stop. He's an imperialist. He's not going to stop

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Speaker 5: until he has Ukraine. There's going to be a winner

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Speaker 5: and there's going to be a loser. And this is

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Speaker 5: the biggest battle that Ukraine has ever faced. It needs

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Speaker 5: all the Western support that it can get to fight

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Speaker 2: It certainly does, and you're right, it's almost been forgotten,

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Speaker 2: which is sad. Amongst the Middle East conflict. But it's

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Speaker 2: clear Putin will stop at nothing, and that is the

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Speaker 2: frightening part. Patrick Carlyon, good to speak with you, Thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us. A group of nurses in the UK

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Speaker 2: who are suing their employer for sexual harassment and sex

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Speaker 2: discrimination because of a policy which allows trans women to

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Speaker 2: use their women's changing rooms have spoken publicly for the

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Speaker 9: There's nothing in place at the minute to protect women.

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Speaker 9: It's literally a SELFI D situation where any person can

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Speaker 2: This perverse ideology has infiltrated multiple institutions, now the NHS.

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Speaker 11: Good evening, Danaka, and thank you for having me on tonight. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: That's like a self ID check system. Now anyone can

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Speaker 3: Where is society going? Seriously? Now?

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Speaker 2: JK Rowling has launched a fresh attack on the new

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Speaker 3: Which they are.

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Speaker 2: Stephanie, Thank goodness the UK has people JK Rowling actually

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Speaker 11: In fact, I think there's going to be further right

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Speaker 2: It's certainly heading into this socialism direction in the UK,

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Speaker 2: you very much, Stephanie Bastian for joining us. Still to

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Speaker 2: come Lefties Losing It featuring Whoopie Goldberg seeking to a

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Speaker 12: Okay, now it's time.

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Speaker 3: For lefties losing it. Let's start with.

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Speaker 2: A totally unhinged, borderline uncomfortable rant from the president of

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Speaker 3: In the United States.

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Speaker 8: We will keep going forward because we are the NIA.

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Speaker 1: We are the NI.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are the anyway. And that's what we do

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Speaker 3: and what you need to do, Becky Pringle is.

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Speaker 2: Be locked up far far away from children, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Now where have I seen a tirade like this before?

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Speaker 3: Blood alone moves the wheels of history never gets old.

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Speaker 3: Yep, we know Disney know how to pick him well.

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Speaker 2: Actress Tatiana Maslani has blasted a parental rights law which

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Speaker 9: It should not be the control of the parents whether

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Speaker 3: That isn't their parents place. It's an overreach. It's an

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Speaker 3: legislate that. It's absurd. No, what is absurd? Is you, Tatiana?

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Speaker 2: Now speaking of derangement, Oh, the old gender benders. We

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Speaker 13: Like that's that's what y'all don't understand. Like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 13: I'm just saying I'm a male woman. Just treatute like

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Speaker 3: A male woman. Cute. It's kind of cute, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: A new splasher, man is a man and a woman

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Speaker 2: Are looking for gender neutral terms to call your family members,

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Speaker 14: Here, darling? Are there gender neutral alternatives to terms like

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Speaker 14: There are gender neutral term to replace nisa nephew is nibbling.

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Speaker 14: It takes sibling and uses the end from niss and nephew.

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Speaker 14: It was actually coined in nineteen fifty one by Yellinglish

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Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine, please let me introduce you

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Speaker 2: to my nibbling and my pibbling, Oh nibbling. Could you

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Speaker 2: please stop nibbling and pass the peas? Please and stop nibbling.

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Speaker 3: You're on our last nerve.

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Speaker 2: Now over to our friends at the view. What would

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Speaker 2: electies losing it be without Whoopee Goldberg While she's back

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Speaker 2: out there fighting the good fight for Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 2: she's given the president.

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Speaker 3: Quite the glow endorsement.

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Speaker 4: I don't care if he's pooped his pants. I don't

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Speaker 3: Show me he can't do the job, and.

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Speaker 4: Then I'll say, Okay, maybe it's time to go lucky Joe.

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Speaker 3: What a great advertisement.

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Speaker 2: And look, at this point, Whoopee should have just really

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Speaker 3: Bowel issues.

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Speaker 4: I have poopy days all the time, all the I

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Speaker 2: Well, that explains why puppy Goldberg is so full of

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Speaker 2: you know what, what else would we expect from the

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Speaker 3: Remember when she said this.

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping doctor Jill becomes a general because because Joe

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Speaker 3: Because she's you know, he would never do. But she Yeah,

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Speaker 4: She's an amazing doctor.

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Speaker 2: They never learned, do they now? From one loan to another.

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Speaker 2: MSNBC host Joy Reid has had a mentally deranged melkdown

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Speaker 8: If it's Bidenita Cooma, I'm gonna vote for Bidina Coma.

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Speaker 8: I don't even really particularly like the guy. A lot

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Speaker 8: Hitler White House were keeping him out, keeping Project twenty

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Speaker 8: down the ballot, from the root to the Tudor school board,

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Speaker 3: Ah. This woman is clearly broken.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've been wondering, how fuck can someone like

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Speaker 3: What's her limit?

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Speaker 2: I thought maybe she was a already there, but no,

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Speaker 2: Biden has called into his friends over at MSNBC in

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Speaker 2: a desperate attempt to prove all is well, but ended

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Speaker 6: Read and I've been out on the road so much,

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Speaker 3: Yes, all is well. He then really went off the rails.

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Speaker 6: Come on, give me a break, Come with me. Why

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Speaker 6: why I'm getting so frustrated by the elite. Now I'm

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Speaker 6: not talking about you guys, but by the elite in

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Speaker 6: the party who they know so much more. But then

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Speaker 2: You did, Hunter Biden help him write his interview notes

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Speaker 3: Of the free world.

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Speaker 2: They announced the President will hold a big boy press conference.

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Speaker 15: After that, the President will hold a press conference.

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Speaker 9: I guess a big boy press conference we're calling it,

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Speaker 9: and take some questions from you all.

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Speaker 16: boy press conference.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's a big boy.

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Speaker 2: Now will they teach him to potty trade next? I'm

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Speaker 2: sure doctor Jill will be on standby to help Jo.

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Speaker 17: You did such a great job. You answered every question.

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Speaker 2: Do you want speaking of who is actually running for president?

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Speaker 3: It's stage mom, doctor Jill.

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Speaker 17: For all the talk out there about this rate, Joe

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Speaker 17: has made it clear that he's all in and just

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Speaker 17: as always as he has supported my career, I'm all into.

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Speaker 3: Hi, bet you are, doctor Jill.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring a newswak Senior editor at Large and article

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Speaker 2: three projects Senya Counsel Josh Haba. Josh, what exactly is

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Speaker 2: a big boy press conference? I mean, how much longer

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Speaker 2: can the White House keep training him like a toddler?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: You know, your guest is as good as mine. I

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Speaker 15: have no idea what a big boy press conference is

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Speaker 15: supposed to be, but I'm happy that you played that

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Speaker 15: clip of doctor Jill Biden congratulating Joe Biden after the

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Speaker 15: debate for actually answering every question. Look, what you're seeing

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Speaker 15: is not just the infantilization of the American presidency. It's

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Speaker 15: actually much worse than just infantilizing the purported leader of

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Speaker 15: the free world. What you've seen now, Axio, some other

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Speaker 15: American political alets have started to report. You're now seeing

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Speaker 15: the media cop up to an omit the fact that

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Speaker 15: Biden's handlers, even inside the White House for the past

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Speaker 15: year and a half, two years at least, maybe even

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Speaker 15: longer than that, have prevented information that the commander in

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Speaker 15: chief ought to know from getting to him. He is

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Speaker 15: not the one making the decisions here. And that ought

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Speaker 15: to trouble every single person, not just in America, but

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Speaker 15: frankly all over the world. And it just deeply ironic

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Speaker 15: even above that, because this is the Democratic Party, they're

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Speaker 15: making a whole stink of the fact that Donald Trump

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Speaker 15: allegedly represents a mortal threat to American democracy. They call

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Speaker 15: themselves the Party of Democracy. I mean, don't look at

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Speaker 15: the fact that they're prosecuting and trying to incarcerate the

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Speaker 15: political opposition. But even holding that massive thing aside for

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Speaker 15: a second, how's a democratic to not even know who

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Speaker 15: was running the country. How is it democratic to now

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Speaker 15: openly talk of trying to do a coup at the

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Speaker 15: convention and top all the guy that your own primary

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Speaker 15: voters just voted for. That would be the end tips

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Speaker 15: of democracy eleas as I understood. So there's more wrong

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Speaker 15: here than I possibly could get to in our conversation.

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Speaker 15: But these clips, at a bare minimum, ought to be

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Speaker 15: deeply disturbing.

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Speaker 3: Well, they are dig platostobic.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I've got to ask the question, who

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Speaker 2: is actually running for president?

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Speaker 3: Is it Joe or Jill?

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Speaker 15: So I think that it's lady macbeth, Jill Biden, I mean,

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Speaker 15: Lady Mick Biden. I guess if you will. I mean,

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Speaker 15: she is the one who's calling the shots here. And

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Speaker 15: you know, I've been speculating that for a while, that

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Speaker 15: she really is the woman behind the curtain, so to speak,

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Speaker 15: and now the media here in the United States seems

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Speaker 15: to be picking up on that. I have no idea

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Speaker 15: what she wants. I mean, Look, Joe Biden has been

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Speaker 15: in Washington, D C. For a half century. He first

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Speaker 15: got to the US Senate in nineteen seventy four. He's

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Speaker 15: run for president three or four times. The first time

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Speaker 15: was before I was even born, back in nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 15: What war could you want? I mean, you've had the

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Speaker 15: reigns of power, and you know, even holding aside this

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Speaker 15: Lady Macbeth just zeal for or power. If you are

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Speaker 15: a wife, shouldn't you have some sense of humiliation and

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Speaker 15: shame when your husband gets out there and just completely

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Speaker 15: embarrasses himself in front of the entire world the way

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Speaker 15: that he did on that CNN presidential debate. Even if

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Speaker 15: Joe Biden is not an American patriot, and I have

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Speaker 15: good reasons for suspecting that she probably is not a

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Speaker 15: staunch patriot. Even if you're not, surely you care as

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Speaker 15: a wife to your to your spouse who the most

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Speaker 15: recent reports showed the mate Parkinson's disease medical experts now

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Speaker 15: coming into the White House. It's a mess. It's an

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Speaker 15: absolute mess. But yes, Joe Biden is definitely not calling

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Speaker 15: the shots. He's definitely not the one who's who's receiving

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Speaker 15: the class wide information every morning in the President's daily brief.

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Speaker 15: He's not the one who's making the life or death

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Speaker 15: decisions with the with the nuclear football. And again, as

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Speaker 15: an American myself, I gravely fear for this country, and

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Speaker 15: everyone around the world ought to care because America obviously

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Speaker 15: is still a superpower, at least at least nominally speaking.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's extremely concerning when theater of the free world

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Speaker 2: has been reduced to a baby and is no longer

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Speaker 2: calling the shots. And now it's been revealed that for

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Speaker 2: his events, President Biden's staff has actually prepare a short

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Speaker 2: document with large print and photos that include his precise

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Speaker 2: path to a podium, but not.

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Speaker 3: That he ever gets it right. But how tragic.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy can't even walk into a straight

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Speaker 2: line to the podium without some direction.

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Speaker 15: But here's here's the irony of ol okay, So Axios,

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Speaker 15: I'm happy you fly to Axios. Axios is a liberal

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Speaker 15: Google funded outlet here that is in the tank for democrats,

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Speaker 15: and Axios, like many of the liberal corporate media here

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Speaker 15: in America, has now gone all in over the past

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Speaker 15: week and a half trying to shunt by his side

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Speaker 15: Axios for the For the two years prior to that,

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Speaker 15: two and a half years, every single time one of us,

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Speaker 15: like myself, had the temerity, had the hood spot to

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Speaker 15: get up there and say, oh, Joe Biden's not fully there.

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Speaker 15: Have you seen his mental and physical decline, they would say,

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Speaker 15: shut up, you deplorable right wing maga kuka, and they

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Speaker 15: just said it over and over again, and now they're

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Speaker 15: flipping on a switch and they're basically just racing The

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Speaker 15: New York Times, CNN, USA Today, Axos. They're just racing

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Speaker 15: to see who can be the first on any given

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Speaker 15: day ending and why to produce the latest bombshell story. Sorry, media,

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Speaker 15: it's only a bombshell to you because you deliberately buried

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Speaker 15: your head in the sand trying to cover for your

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Speaker 15: precious for the past few years. This was not a

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Speaker 15: bombshell to any of us. We all saw this coming there.

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Speaker 15: So the whole thing again, it would be simply farcical

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Speaker 15: if it were not so utterly dangerous. I mean, my

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Speaker 15: number one thought when I was watching that CNN presidential

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Speaker 15: debate that the thought I had over and over again

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Speaker 15: was oh my god. I mean, what conversations are they

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Speaker 15: having right now in Beijing. I mean, you know that

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Speaker 15: she Jimping is on the phone with the People's Liberation Army.

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Speaker 15: They're probably saying, let's go invade Taiwan, probably the day

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Speaker 15: after tomorrow. So it would be merely pathetic if it

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Speaker 15: weren't so actually dangerous.

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Speaker 2: A spot on in the White House is more concerned

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Speaker 2: of whether or not the president could walk in a

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Speaker 2: straight line to podium.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, there's actually big global.

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Speaker 2: Issues out there and that's completely.

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Speaker 3: Being ignored now.

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Speaker 2: A former Obama advisor, Van Jones, has suggested that Vice

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Speaker 2: President Krmala Harris is effectively being positioned as the party's

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Speaker 2: de facto nominee, regardless of President Joe Biden's official status

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Speaker 2: in the race.

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Speaker 3: I mean, talk about desperation.

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Speaker 2: Krmala Harris has been one of the most unelectable people

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Speaker 2: in Democrat history, and yet she's the de facto.

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Speaker 15: Look, Kamala Harris is a bad politician. I mean, she

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Speaker 15: did not win a single primary vote in the twenty

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Speaker 15: twenty Democratic Party primary. She was out well before Iowa,

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Speaker 15: which voted first that year in the caucuses. She was

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Speaker 15: explicitly tapped to be the vice president solely for identity

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Speaker 15: politics reasons. And you know, if that's really the Democrats

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Speaker 15: best shop, then that says a lot about the current

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Speaker 15: state of their party. But she really is the only

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Speaker 15: viable alternative at this point to Joe Biden for multiple reasons.

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Speaker 15: The one reason is what I just said that ThisDay

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Speaker 15: Party in twenty twenty two, as selected Katanji Brown Jackson

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Speaker 15: to be their new Supreme Court justice explicitly because she

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Speaker 15: was a black woman. So the notion that they would

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Speaker 15: somehow skip over Kamala Harris to go pick Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 15: or Gretchen Whitmoer or anyone who is not a specifically

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Speaker 15: black or maybe Hispanic woman, the notion that they would

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Speaker 15: do that is ludicrous. If that's not who this party is.

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Speaker 15: They are an intersectional identity politics worshiping cult to their

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Speaker 15: core in the year twenty twenty four. But the second

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Speaker 15: reason why it can't be anyone other than Kamala Harris

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Speaker 15: is because in America, our campaign financial laws are somewhat complicated.

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Speaker 15: But essentially, if you donate to the Biden Harris campaign,

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Speaker 15: and right now that campaign has over two hundred million

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Speaker 15: dollars sitting in its bank accounts, you can't just then

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Speaker 15: transfer that money to a different entity. That money either

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Speaker 15: sits there there or it might go back to the donors,

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Speaker 15: or maybe it goes to the DNC, the Democratic National Committee. Frankly,

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Speaker 15: it's actually an open question as to whether that money

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Speaker 15: would even stay there if Joe Biden drops out, because

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Speaker 15: say it's Harris Whitmer, it's a different entity. So it's

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Speaker 15: legally untested as it is, but if they want any

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Speaker 15: chance of keeping that two hundred plus million dollars, it

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Speaker 15: would have to be common law. But again, the fact

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Speaker 15: that this is the choice that Democrats are facing, I think,

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Speaker 15: says everything he needs to know about the current state

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Speaker 15: of their party.

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Speaker 2: Jay Spakes Volumes, doesn't it? That's incredible to hear. Now, Look,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump looks likely to announce his vice president just

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Speaker 2: before or during the Republican National Convention next week.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think he might go with?

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Speaker 15: Well, I'll tell you who I think he should go with,

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Speaker 15: and he happens to be one of the front runners.

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Speaker 15: So my answer is basically the same both ways. I

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Speaker 15: think that he should go with JD. Evans, who is

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Speaker 15: the young, precocious, thirty nine year old sender from Ohio.

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Speaker 15: And I'll explain to you why. You know, a lot

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Speaker 15: of people when they start playing the vice presidential sweepstakes game,

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Speaker 15: they start doing a little checklist. Okay, who fits a

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Speaker 15: certain demographic box.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 15: That's why you hear a lot of talk about Tim

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Speaker 15: Scott because he's a black man in the US Senate,

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Speaker 15: or maybe Ben Carson, who is the black former hut director.

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Speaker 15: And then you see some people talk about who is

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Speaker 15: in a certain key state. Okay, maybe Glenn Youngkin in Virginia.

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Speaker 15: To me, jd Vance is the best pick for at

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Speaker 15: least two very important reasons. One is, if you get

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Speaker 15: down to brass tacks, the way that you win a

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Speaker 15: presidential election in the United States is via the electoral college.

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Speaker 15: It is a race to two hundred and seventy electoral votes.

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Speaker 15: Right now, Donald Trump has a commanding lead, and essentially

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Speaker 15: what we call the sun Belt down here. That's Nevada, Arizona,

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Speaker 15: North Carolina, Georgia, all of the warmer weather states where

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Speaker 15: it's still sometimes within the margin of era, not always,

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Speaker 15: but where it is still sometimes within the margin of

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Speaker 15: era in the polling is the Rust Belt. So Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 15: and Michigan specifically, Trump's going to have to win at

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Speaker 15: least one of those three. Now he's in good shape

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Speaker 15: right now, frankly in all three, especially Pennsylvania. But that's

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Speaker 15: really where you want to double down.

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Speaker 3: That happens to.

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Speaker 15: Be jd Vance's core base right there. He is a

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Speaker 15: guy from Ohio who wrote a famous book called Hillbilly Elegy.

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Speaker 15: He speaks to white working class voters in the Roust

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Speaker 15: Belt better than anyone currently on Trump's list. And the

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Speaker 15: other reason why I think he's the best pick right

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Speaker 15: now is because, as I mentioned, he's a very young guy.

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Speaker 15: He's thirty nine years old. He speaks to the discontent

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Speaker 15: that millennials and Gen Z have, to the boomers who

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Speaker 15: have spent like drunken sailors who have been trying to

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Speaker 15: march all around the world, invading countries to no avail

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Speaker 15: and so forth. And at a time when Democrats are

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Speaker 15: currently hemorrhaging youth support as it is, I think Jdvans

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Speaker 15: can only solidify that exodus of young voters from the

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Speaker 15: Democrats to the Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be very interesting. We'll be watching

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Speaker 2: that announcement very closely. Now, just before we let you go,

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Speaker 2: woke activist Gropes are opposing a sex trafficking bill in California,

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Speaker 2: complaining that it will would you believe it harm the

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Speaker 2: LGBTQ community and people of color, listen to this.

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Speaker 10: Studies have shown that LGBTQ people, particularly gay and transgendered individuals,

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Speaker 10: are more likely to be charged with sex offenses compared

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Speaker 10: to their heterosexual counterparts. For instance, LGBTQ individuals are nine

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Speaker 10: times more likely to be charged with sodomy.

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Speaker 3: Measures like SB.

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Speaker 10: Fourteen fourteen lead to higher rates of incarceration, longer sentences,

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Speaker 10: and increase difficulties in fighting, housing, and employment tabe.

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Speaker 2: We can hardly be surprised, Josh. This is a sort

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Speaker 2: of response we get from the woke activists.

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Speaker 3: What on earth is going on here?

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Speaker 15: So look, I mean, if you're trying to pass a

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Speaker 15: bill that is a child safety bill, probably the number

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Speaker 15: one thing that is happening in America and in all

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Speaker 15: Western nations across the world for that matter, that is

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Speaker 15: the antithesis of child safety is genital mutilation and chemical

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Speaker 15: castration that comes about via so called gender affirming care,

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Speaker 15: which is currently one of the greatest things that the

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Speaker 15: LGBT Rainbow movement has going for it. I mean, they

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Speaker 15: very much adore these so called gender affirming surgeries. Again,

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Speaker 15: I refer to it usually as chemical castration or gentle mutilation.

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Speaker 15: So it kind of goes out saying that if you

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Speaker 15: are part of this woke LGBT mafia, then you are

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Speaker 15: going to oppose a bill in the name of child safety.

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Speaker 15: But you know, The silver lining is when I see

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Speaker 15: a story like this, the people who come out in

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Speaker 15: opposition to a common sense legislation like this, they're only

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Speaker 15: ultimately making a fool of themselves. And if you are

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Speaker 15: kind of a sensible, moderate, middle of the road person

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Speaker 15: out there still trying to decide where to put your

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Speaker 15: political loyalties, you see a video like that and you say, wow,

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Speaker 15: I want nothing to do with.

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Speaker 2: Them your spot on. I think many people can share

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Speaker 2: that view. Josh Hammer, thank you for joining us. Still

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Speaker 2: to come, Nigel Farages reform UK are accused of building

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Speaker 2: fake AI generated candidates more with Darren Grimes.

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Speaker 3: Next welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is gb News host Darren Grimes.

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Speaker 3: Darren, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the new UK Prime Minister Kia Stamer,

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Speaker 2: who is set to meet with Joe Biden at the

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Speaker 2: White House for their first face to face meeting. Look,

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Speaker 2: I've got to say, hopefully Joe Biden stays awake long

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Speaker 2: enough to actually.

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Speaker 3: Greet the upm. But what can we expect from these talks?

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I think you may be onto something there. Right,

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Speaker 1: It'll be nothing short of a miracle if secure Starmer

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Speaker 1: with all the charisma of an automated voice from one

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Speaker 1: of those big corporates telling you that your call is

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Speaker 1: important to them, driving you absolutely spare. It'll be a

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Speaker 1: miracle if that man doesn't send this ailing president.

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Speaker 3: Straight to sleep.

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Speaker 1: So you're absolutely spot on. But look, I think what's

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Speaker 1: crucial here is that Sekre Starmer wants to immediately start

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Speaker 1: discussions on issues like Ukraine, on demanding a ceasefire in Israel.

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Speaker 1: He has big populations with Muslim votes and that's a

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Speaker 1: real key issue to a lot of his voter base. Now,

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Speaker 1: to me, and I'm sure many viewers agree with this,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing a little bit of tension with

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Speaker 1: this new Prime minister on issues we face here at

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Speaker 1: home right, domestic issues which are many mass migration. You've

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Speaker 1: got a legal migration of the kind that Australia once saw,

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Speaker 1: chronic housing shortages, healthcare waiting lists, swallen class sizes in

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Speaker 1: part thanks to that mass migration that I speak of.

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Speaker 1: And yet this war that shows as in Ukraine, especially

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Speaker 1: showing all signs of ceasing that we've pumped billions into

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Speaker 1: in arms and cash, that's viewed as more important to

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Speaker 1: the incoming Prime minister than domestic issues. And let's not

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Speaker 1: forget right that Ukraine is a nation that was dismissed

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Speaker 1: by natal has been a little bit too.

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Speaker 3: Corrupt for them.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure many of the British people are

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Speaker 1: going to have that much sympathy for this Prime minister

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Speaker 1: focusing resolutely and doggedly on these issues as far as

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Speaker 1: foreign policy is concerned. Over the many pressing issues that

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Speaker 1: we face in this country domestically, we've got serious issues here.

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Speaker 1: It cannot be overstated.

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Speaker 3: Now, that's a good point, and I've got to say

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Speaker 3: the UK looks like it for quite a ride.

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Speaker 2: Keir Starmer says he wants to reduce the number of

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Speaker 2: people going into prison.

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Speaker 3: He says there's too many in the system.

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Speaker 2: So Darren not only will he resume processing asylum applications

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Speaker 2: for illegal arrivals, it looks like he's going to let

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Speaker 2: criminals out soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You couldn't make it up, really, could you doubt

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Speaker 1: I'm alone in thinking that this is all gone to

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Speaker 1: bite the nation royally in the backside, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the new Labor Prisons Minister has said that only a

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Speaker 1: third of the Britain of the British prison population should

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Speaker 1: actually be behind bars. Now he's made laudable moves in

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Speaker 1: his own career in his key cutting business, which is

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Speaker 1: quite a large business here in Britain, at hiring former offenders. Now,

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Speaker 1: that sort of thing, I think is an initiative we

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Speaker 1: can get behind. We are all forgiven for giving sinners right,

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Speaker 1: none of us are beyond redemption, if you go back

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Speaker 1: many a moon. We used to believe that. But I

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Speaker 1: think that's quite different, though quite different to suggesting that

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Speaker 1: criminals ought to be not to not be banged up

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Speaker 1: at all by approving automatic release of convicts less than

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Speaker 1: halfway through the sentence to actually free up prison population. Right,

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Speaker 1: we already live in a country in which criminals don't

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Speaker 1: fear repercussions for theft, for vandalism, for burglaries, the sort

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Speaker 1: of sites you would see in San Francisco. They're very

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Speaker 1: much coming to London. We're having to lock up basic

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Speaker 1: goods and food stuffs to avoid them being ransacked from supermarkets. Now,

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Speaker 1: these things happen without investigation in many cases, and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't take a genius right to figure out that if

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Speaker 1: criminality goes unpunished, then more people will be tempted to

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Speaker 1: take it up as their own tax free profession. So

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Speaker 1: I just wonder how many people would have voted for

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Speaker 1: the Labor Party had they placed this get out of

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Speaker 1: jail free card quite literally into their manifestal. And of course,

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Speaker 1: on illegal migration, granting amnesty to those that have arrived

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Speaker 1: here illegally, that is utter madness. How do we know

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Speaker 1: these people don't wish us harm? Why are they here?

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Speaker 1: We don't want them here? And I'm afraid it's quite

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Speaker 1: as simple as that for the British public.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it sounds like a complete recipe for disaster,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it, And it's just going to keep spiraling out.

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Speaker 3: Of control From here.

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Speaker 2: I want to go through Kia Starmer's new cabinet. It

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Speaker 2: looks like a complete psycho circus. You've got the new

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Speaker 2: Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice Shabana ma Muda,

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Speaker 2: pro Palestine activists with a history of anti Israel pro

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Speaker 2: Gazas sentiments. You've got the UK's new Foreign Secretary David Lammy,

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Speaker 2: who well, I mean he thinks that men can grow

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Speaker 2: a cervix.

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Speaker 18: I don't know if it's transphobic, but it's not accurate, nick,

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Speaker 18: I mean, obviously it's probably the case only that transfim

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Speaker 18: in don't have over it's but a cervix, I understand,

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Speaker 18: is something that you can have following various procedures and

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Speaker 18: hormone treatment and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 3: And we can't forget this iconic Lammy moment.

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Speaker 18: It feels like neighborhood policing has vanished.

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Speaker 6: It's not around you.

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Speaker 18: We haven't seen a police while I've been here, and

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Speaker 18: I've been here for a little while now.

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Speaker 2: Darren, look a bunch of complete weirdos by the sounds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean a miss mood just as Secretary.

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Speaker 1: You know, she tried pandering to the extremists within the

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Speaker 1: United Kingdom with those more extreme elements, at least within

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Speaker 1: the British mainstream, I guess you could argue, and that

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Speaker 1: hasn't worked out because the sheer levels of intimidation and

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Speaker 1: threats that she was met with during the general election

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Speaker 1: just show that pandering to these hate marches and the

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Speaker 1: hate marchers that have marched on our streets every weekend

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Speaker 1: since October seventh doesn't get you anywhere. They don't want

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Speaker 1: to reason. They actually would quite like to overthrow the

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Speaker 1: system of the United Kingdom, so you've got to stand

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Speaker 1: resolutely against them, and hopefully misbemoved might see that now

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Speaker 1: after that general election experience in which he did receive

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Speaker 1: really quite abhorrent intimidation. But on David Lammy, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there is no redemption for this man. He really is

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Speaker 1: a plank. I mean, I honestly don't know how this

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Speaker 1: man managed to get a university degree. It is quite extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: I'm often told by the left right that I am

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Speaker 1: uneducated because I don't actually have a degree. But when

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Speaker 1: people like that within the Labor Shadow Cabinet in the

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Speaker 1: now Cabinet are spouting out these nonsense banalities, well you

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Speaker 1: sort of think a degree clearly in all that helpful

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Speaker 1: in modern Britain is it? And I'm afraid to say,

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Speaker 1: in many respects, these are diversity and inclusion hires that

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Speaker 1: are going to not serve the British public one iota.

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Speaker 1: And it's the same old Labor Party folks. They keep

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Speaker 1: saying they've changed. They really haven't. You should be there

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Speaker 1: on talent and I tell you what, David Lammy, well

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Speaker 1: he ain't got much of that.

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Speaker 2: Well clearly, I mean, as you said, the guy is

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Speaker 2: a complete plank. Now, look the rice to replace Raschie

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Speaker 2: Sounac as Tory later is unificially underway.

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Speaker 3: Who's in the running here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Tories believed to actually be preparing their

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Speaker 1: bids include the former Immigration Minister Robert Jenrick, the former

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Speaker 1: Home Secretary Pretty Petail. There's a security minister, Tom tougan

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Speaker 1: Hat and the former Business secretary Kemmy Badknock. Now, according

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Speaker 1: to the betting markets, Kemmy Badknock actually currently stands the

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Speaker 1: greatest chance. But the makeup of the Parliamentary Party it's

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Speaker 1: changed so significantly by the sheer numbers of loss, so

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Speaker 1: it's very difficult to actually predict which direction the party

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Speaker 1: will move in, whether that be you know what, an

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Speaker 1: attempt to return to some attempt at half baked centrist conservatism.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking more Malcolm Turnbull than Tony Abbott,

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Speaker 1: or whether or not they try and go and actually

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Speaker 1: give conservatism a chance which has won elections for the party.

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Speaker 1: Might I say many times in the past you could

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Speaker 1: argue in twenty nineteen bolstering the Nation state telling people

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Speaker 1: that you would lower immigration, which they didn't, which is

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Speaker 1: why they lost, by the way, But telling people that

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Speaker 1: you're bos at the nation state, quite a conservative, small

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Speaker 1: c conservative message, but they didn't succeed in that mission.

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Speaker 1: So I say, give conservatism a go and you might

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Speaker 1: win some elections. But suwella Bravman, the former Home Secretary

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Speaker 1: who's been a key figure on the right of the party,

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Speaker 1: is said to be losing support to the former Immigration

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Speaker 1: Minister Robert Jenrick for being two right wing, for speaking

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Speaker 1: out pretty plainly dare I say, in quite an ozzie

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Speaker 1: thing on issues like LGBT, the new trans madness, puberty blockers,

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Speaker 1: hormone treatments, you name it. She's been speaking out on

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Speaker 1: this as well as immigration, and some members of the

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Speaker 1: party are saying she's two right wing. Well I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: where has Where did was she soon that get you right?

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Speaker 1: Where did this trying to be everything to everyone actually

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Speaker 1: get you? What did that achieve? So I'm hoping, I'm

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Speaker 1: really hoping that the party wakes up to that otherwise,

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Speaker 1: So tell you what, Nigel Farage is going to be

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Speaker 1: laughing all the way to the ballot box.

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Nigel Farage and Reform UK, they've come

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Speaker 2: under pressure to provide evidence that it's candidates that the

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Speaker 2: general election were all real people.

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Speaker 3: What's that about?

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Speaker 1: This is an absurdity. So this guy that we've got

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Speaker 1: on screen there right now, he was actually on the

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Speaker 1: channel I work for called gb News in this country,

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Speaker 1: So he is real.

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Speaker 3: He does exists, I promise.

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Speaker 1: Apparently he had edited his tie to look more in

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Speaker 1: keeping with the Reform UK Light blue, which is fair enough.

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Speaker 1: But you know, all of the hysteria, especially on Twitter

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Speaker 1: or x, has been absolutely hysterical. And it's from those

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Speaker 1: And I tell you what this is. It's really quite simple.

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Speaker 1: It's from those who seek to destroy and denegrate the

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Speaker 1: four million votes that Reform One as a fledgling new party.

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Speaker 1: Four weeks worth of campaigning is all Nigel Farage actually

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Speaker 1: undertook and they won four million votes and five seats

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Speaker 1: in the House of Commons under our pretty damn destroyed

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Speaker 1: electoral system. But he did that right, And they try

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Speaker 1: to dismiss that electoral success by saying, oh, well, a

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Speaker 1: lot of your people standing your party weren't real. You

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Speaker 1: must be swayed by put in bots, Nigerian bots I've heard,

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Speaker 1: or what a ponchant for putinesque, you know, anti Ukraine sentiment.

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Speaker 1: It's all just a lord of nonsense to try and

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Speaker 1: diminish the party's success, because the party actually came second

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Speaker 1: in a hell of a lot of Labor Party constituencies

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Speaker 1: that are in the so called Red Wall, that is,

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Speaker 1: the working class parts of England. So I think actually

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Speaker 1: this is all part of the left freaking out at

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Speaker 1: reform success and wanting to actually seek to destroy in

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Speaker 1: any way it can.

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Speaker 2: That's very very clear. Darren Grimes, good to speak with you,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for joining us tonight, and that's

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Speaker 2: it from me. Up next is Newsnight, good Night.