WEBVTT - Saturday special: Albanese's election plans

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<v Speaker 1>From Schwartz Media. I'm Daniel James. This is seven am.

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<v Speaker 1>In newsrooms and boardrooms and electoral offices, there's one question

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<v Speaker 1>driving everyone insane. When is Anthony Albinizi going to call

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<v Speaker 1>the election? The Prime Minister is being coy about it,

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<v Speaker 1>while nervous backbenches worried about their seats are willing him

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<v Speaker 1>to strike now, while the Reserve Bank's decision to cut

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates is fresh in voters' minds. Today columnists for

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<v Speaker 1>the Saturday paper Paul bon Jorno on what Laboring siders

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<v Speaker 1>are telling him about when to expect an election, and

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<v Speaker 1>how Peter Duttman is coping with the government's week of

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<v Speaker 1>good use. It's Saturday, February twenty two. Paul, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us this week. We had the first rate cut

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<v Speaker 1>in almost five years, the government throwing about it, so

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<v Speaker 1>they got to call an election.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a question that probably everyone in Australia that's

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<v Speaker 2>got even a tad of interest in politics is wondering,

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<v Speaker 2>but none more than the very nervous people.

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<v Speaker 3>On Labour's backbench.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to a couple during the week and as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as the announcement was made, they said, that's it,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>He should go.

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<v Speaker 2>He shouldn't waste any more time. And of course the

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<v Speaker 2>most nervous staniel are those in what we call the

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<v Speaker 2>mortgage belt seats and you know, the fringes of our cities.

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<v Speaker 2>A recent you gov poll, in fact, said that these

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<v Speaker 2>labor seats were in grave danger of falling. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the seat holders in New South Wales told me that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want Albansi to wait for the simple reason

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<v Speaker 2>that if the Reserve Bank on April, the first April

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<v Speaker 2>Fool's Day doesn't cut rates again, as Governor Michelle Bullock

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<v Speaker 2>indicated pretty strongly, they weren't inclined to then that would

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<v Speaker 2>make it a harder selling job for them in the

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<v Speaker 2>election campaign. And I can tell you that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>only borrowers who were mightily relieved when the Reserve Bank

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<v Speaker 2>cut rates. The government led out a sigh of relief

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<v Speaker 2>that you could almost hear all over Australia. And the

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<v Speaker 2>next day Jim Charmers, the Treasurer, well, he went on

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<v Speaker 2>an interview binge. You might say, he'd done ten interviews

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<v Speaker 2>on radio and television by midday.

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<v Speaker 3>We're joined now by a treasure at Jim Chalmers live

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<v Speaker 3>in Logan, Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>The Federal Treasurer is Jim Chalmers.

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<v Speaker 3>He's here this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning to you, gym, Good morning Hammer.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go live to the treasurer at Jim Charmers.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining us live now is the Treasurer of Jim charm.

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<v Speaker 3>Treasurer, welcome to seven thirty. Thanks very much, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>One of his colleagues in the cabinet equipped that Jim's

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<v Speaker 2>become more of immediate tart than Kevin Rudd.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that is saying something. And what about Anthony Alberezi,

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<v Speaker 1>what's he been up to?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, alban is he not far behind?

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<v Speaker 2>He gave a number of interviews on Tuesday afternoon and

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<v Speaker 2>again on the airwaves next day.

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<v Speaker 4>Taking you live straight to Sydney where Prime Minister Anthony

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<v Speaker 4>Albanesi is speaking.

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<v Speaker 5>We're joined by the Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Alberezy.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, gooday, Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for Johnnys.

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Alberinezi joins me.

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<v Speaker 6>Mister Prime Minister, you must be happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think the Australians will welcome this news.

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<v Speaker 2>But on Thursday the Prime Minister pulled off with the help.

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<v Speaker 2>It must be said of the South Australian Labor government

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<v Speaker 2>under Peter melanowskis of well.

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<v Speaker 3>A pretty big political coup.

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<v Speaker 2>In a surprising move, the South Australian Parliament this week

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<v Speaker 2>past laws that forced Sanjiv Gupta, the British billionaire who

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<v Speaker 2>owns the Whyella steel Works, well they forced him out

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<v Speaker 2>of the steel works and put the steel works in administration.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister says this will consolidate the workforce in

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<v Speaker 2>Wyela and the uncertainty that's been plaguing the town for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 4>Now. This package that we're putting together here we're working

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<v Speaker 4>very hard on between the South Australian Government and the

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<v Speaker 4>Australian government, two labor governments working together to support jobs,

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<v Speaker 4>good quality, good paying jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to pump in over three hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>to stabilize the steelworks and they're going to have another

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<v Speaker 2>one point nine billion dollars to invest in it in

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<v Speaker 2>the hope that someone will then buy this refurbished steel works,

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<v Speaker 2>which by the way, is going to have a distinctly

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<v Speaker 2>green tinge about it. And blue Scope, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is owned by BHP, is expressing interest already. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a big announcement and Albanezi says this proves that when

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<v Speaker 2>we say we're investing in a future made in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>we mean what we say.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a huge announcement by Albanez. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>that he can talk about and the lead up to

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<v Speaker 1>the election. Does that tell us anything about election timing

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<v Speaker 1>and what are some of the apossible dates for the election.

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<v Speaker 2>By legislation, an election campaign must go thirty three days.

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<v Speaker 2>It can go out of a lot longer if a

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister wants that to happen. So if we take

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty three day rule, Albanzi would have to call

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<v Speaker 2>an election, say for March twenty nine, by February twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's still an option.

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<v Speaker 3>However, there is a big fly in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ointment and that is the March eight state election in

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<v Speaker 2>Western Australia. And one Cabinet minister told me not only

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<v Speaker 2>does Albanesi want to steer clear, doesn't want to blur

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<v Speaker 2>the lines between state and federal for the WA election,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's been begged not to by the Labor premier

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<v Speaker 2>over there, Roger Cook. So that would suggest he could

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<v Speaker 2>call one maybe towards the end of that campaign, So

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<v Speaker 2>people are then thinking, well, March eleven, or just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days before, Albanesi will get in the car

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<v Speaker 2>and go out to Government House to call an election

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<v Speaker 2>for April twelve. And the good thing about April twelve

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<v Speaker 2>is it avoids both Anzac Day and Easter, and it

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<v Speaker 2>avoids the.

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<v Speaker 3>March wa election. So you know, put your money on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a betting manning Paul, but I just might.

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<v Speaker 1>You've reported on a lot of elections in your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that this rate cut, which could be

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<v Speaker 1>a one off and which will only have a modest

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<v Speaker 1>impact on people's wulgage repayments, will make any real difference

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<v Speaker 1>to the campaign?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, without a doubt, it's the most anticipated rate

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<v Speaker 2>cut that I can remember. And there's also no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>that it has huge political implications. It's a watershed, a

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<v Speaker 2>circuit breaker if you like. It turns the argument on

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<v Speaker 2>economic management around and it gives credibility to the claims

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<v Speaker 2>of the Treasurer that it's his economic management. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>government's economic management that has succeeded in bringing inflation down

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<v Speaker 2>and creating the atmospherics for the Reserve Bank to have

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<v Speaker 2>enough confidence to begin cutting interest rates. But by comparison

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<v Speaker 2>already the opposition seems to be offering bainalities like back

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<v Speaker 2>to basics of economic management and cutting spending. Well, cutting spending,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever way you shake it means more pain for the

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<v Speaker 2>very people you said of labors put into too much

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<v Speaker 2>pain already.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up after the break, Dutton goes missing. Paul, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a good week for the Albernezy government. How's Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton's week?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was quite noticeable that Peter Dutton on the

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon of the announcement left his shadow treasure to as

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<v Speaker 2>it were, carry the can.

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<v Speaker 5>The truth is that this is too little, too late

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<v Speaker 5>for many Australian families who have seen the biggest collapse

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<v Speaker 5>in their standard of living in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Old heads and old hands in the prescalery do notice

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<v Speaker 2>that if the government does get good news, Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 2>tends to disappear.

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<v Speaker 3>From the media.

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<v Speaker 2>Angus Taylor was left by Peter Dutton, who kerry most

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<v Speaker 2>of the burden of replying to this good news for

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<v Speaker 2>the government. Or can you name one policy that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to drive down the cost of living for the rest.

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<v Speaker 6>Of this year?

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<v Speaker 3>If you win government in what could be six seven,

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<v Speaker 3>eight weeks time.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those policies will help him bring down the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living, because that's what economic management does.

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<v Speaker 2>But Dutton so far has been pretty loose. We got

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty stark example of that in a key interview.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave a long form interview he gave on Sky

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<v Speaker 2>News Sunday Agenda last weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>It showed that Dutton was more inclined.

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<v Speaker 2>To stay opposition leader rather than an alternative prime minister.

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<v Speaker 2>He was out scoring cheap political points against the the

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<v Speaker 2>government for the way it was handling the threat of

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<v Speaker 2>the President Trump's the tariffs, but he wasn't actually on

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<v Speaker 2>top of what the government had done. He called for

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<v Speaker 2>ministers to go to Washington and it was pointed out

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<v Speaker 2>to him, we'll hang on the deputy Prime minister was

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington on previous days.

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<v Speaker 6>Richard Miles is a nice guy, but he's batting fairly

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<v Speaker 6>significantly down the list in terms of the government's key hitters.

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<v Speaker 1>In the first place, Richard Miles is the Deputy Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you saying he's batting down the order?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I just don't think Again. I'm friends with Richard

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<v Speaker 6>and I like Richard. But I just don't think he

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<v Speaker 6>has the gravitas that the Prime Minister would have if

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<v Speaker 6>he had attended, or if.

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<v Speaker 2>He also didn't seem in calling for our trade minister

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to his counterpart in America at that point

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<v Speaker 2>of time, the Trade Secretary hadn't been sworn in, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that seemed to be that seemed to be

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<v Speaker 2>quite indicative of someone who hadn't done his homework.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it too much? But in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Interview what really caught the breath of commentators and indeed

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<v Speaker 2>his coalition partners in the Nationals, he announced what looked

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<v Speaker 2>like something off the top of his head that raised

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<v Speaker 2>the prospect of forcing insurance companies to divest if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't bring their premiums down. Now he has put his

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<v Speaker 2>finger on a very sore point, particularly in far North Queensland,

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<v Speaker 2>which has been hit by devastating whether cyclones and floods

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<v Speaker 2>this summer.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course we had the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bushfires in Victoria and elsewhere, and it's true people simply

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<v Speaker 2>aren't taking out insurance because they can't afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me about the reaction to this announcement.

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<v Speaker 1>What the reaction to this has been?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the Insurance Council was flabbergasted. For one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed that Dutton was unaware of a ten billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar cyclone reinsurance pool that was set up by the

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<v Speaker 2>Morrison government, the government he was part of in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. So Little Proud went on television next day

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<v Speaker 2>and said, oh, well, this isn't policy.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this a policy that has been approved by the

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<v Speaker 5>Joint party room, Because it's not a policy was announced.

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<v Speaker 5>What Peter Dutton has said that is very clear we

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<v Speaker 5>are prepared to use whatever policy lever. We need to

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<v Speaker 5>ensure that Australian's costs a living and consumers are being

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<v Speaker 5>treated fairly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you want from government. So it's not actually Jalacy, Well, it.

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<v Speaker 5>Wasn't announced as a policy. I don't think I think

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<v Speaker 5>it would be unfair to say that that was a

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<v Speaker 5>policy announced by Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 1>What he said was, so what do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>going on here, Paul, with Dunton making these seemingly off

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<v Speaker 1>the cuff policy announcements.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that Dutton clearly has got an ear

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<v Speaker 2>for the things that are playing out there. No one

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<v Speaker 2>can deny that insurance is a major issue, but Alberizi

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<v Speaker 2>has made the observation that the oppositions simply haven't done

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<v Speaker 2>their policy work. It seems that Dutton, maybe with an

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<v Speaker 2>eye to how Trump got in in America, wants to

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<v Speaker 2>get in on the vibe. If he talks insurance and

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<v Speaker 2>taking on the big insurers, that's all he has to

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<v Speaker 2>do and people will rush to vote for him. It

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<v Speaker 2>was quite interesting. The next day he doubled down and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm warning insurance companies now, unless they do

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<v Speaker 2>something before we get elected, they better look out when

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<v Speaker 2>we get elected. The opinion polls do show the coalition

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<v Speaker 2>with an edge, but it's only an edge, and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one forty nine, which is the average of all the

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<v Speaker 2>published poles at the moment, is basically statistically line bare.

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<v Speaker 2>So while news poll was told recently that voters are

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<v Speaker 2>seriously considering a change, the two party votes shows they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't yet found a credible alternative.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, Paul, one of the main criticisms of the

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<v Speaker 1>government is that it hasn't been very good at spreaking

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<v Speaker 1>its own achievements, telling its own story. Is there enough

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<v Speaker 1>time for them to start doing that this late in

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<v Speaker 1>their term.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they are incumbents and they've been there for only

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<v Speaker 2>three years, and Albanesi, as a communicator, has not sold

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<v Speaker 2>his government well. But mind you, it wouldn't matter who

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<v Speaker 2>was in government in these tight times, selling your government

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<v Speaker 2>well would always be difficult. However, I think the focus

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<v Speaker 2>is now coming down to the choices that are on offer,

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<v Speaker 2>and what Albanzi can rightly claim is that we've done

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<v Speaker 2>more than the coalition wanted to allow us to do,

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<v Speaker 2>which then puts the focus on the alternative to show

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<v Speaker 2>that it is as caring of people's pain as labors

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<v Speaker 2>tried to be. But look, in our system of compulsory voting,

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<v Speaker 2>it simply does come down to, you know, not the

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<v Speaker 2>ideal you want if you could ever get it, but

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<v Speaker 2>the devil you know versus the devil you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Daniel bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Also in the years today, the artist Colored Subsabi and

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<v Speaker 1>curator Michael de Gastino will not be reinstated as Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>representatives at the next Venice Biennial, despite thousands of artists

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<v Speaker 1>calling for the decision to be overturned. This was confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>by Creative Australia's chair Robert morgan An executive director Adrian

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<v Speaker 1>Collette at an all staff meeting on Thursday. It is

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<v Speaker 1>now increasingly likely Australia will not be represented at the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six event, and a joint press conference between

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<v Speaker 1>Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski and the US Special Envoy for

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine and Russia has been canceled. Retired General Keith Kellogg

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<v Speaker 1>was due to brief the press alongside mister Zelenski after

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting on Thursday local time, but mister Zelenski's office

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<v Speaker 1>says the US called for the appearance to be canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>The cancelation comes at a critical time as US President

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump a Russian President Vladimir Putin have been discussing

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<v Speaker 1>an endo. The war discussions Ukraine have not been invited to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Daniel James this seven am. Have a great weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a quick one on a light and note, are

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<v Speaker 4>you going to Vegas for the NRL launch?

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<v Speaker 3>I won't be doing that. There is an election being

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<v Speaker 3>called Carlin, so yeah, no, I can't go to Vegas,

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<v Speaker 3>carg because that's the day we're calling the election. Just king,

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<v Speaker 3>that's my birth that's my birthday. Weekend