1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Apogae Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am I 2 00:00:24,881 --> 00:00:25,761 Speaker 1: A Mad Mom? 3 00:00:26,041 --> 00:00:26,601 Speaker 2: Podcast? 4 00:00:26,681 --> 00:00:28,401 Speaker 1: Are we almost at the school holidays? 5 00:00:28,441 --> 00:00:35,481 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know they consistent feedback that I've had from 6 00:00:35,681 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: a lot of different moms over what are we? Are 7 00:00:39,601 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: we in week two? Yeah? Yeah, week two? We're in 8 00:00:43,561 --> 00:00:46,961 Speaker 2: week two roughly started? You know term four. We all 9 00:00:47,001 --> 00:00:49,681 Speaker 2: know that term four isn't naturally really busy with kids, 10 00:00:49,681 --> 00:00:52,321 Speaker 2: but it's also busy on our calendars because you're like 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,041 Speaker 2: Christmas parties and kids, Christmas parties and breakups and sport breakups. 12 00:00:57,081 --> 00:01:00,321 Speaker 1: It's just work as well, because I, like, I had 13 00:01:00,361 --> 00:01:02,401 Speaker 1: a conversation with my husband day the other day. 14 00:01:02,441 --> 00:01:04,601 Speaker 2: I was like, we need to start thinking about. 15 00:01:04,801 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Make king money to tide us over the Christmas period 16 00:01:08,521 --> 00:01:11,041 Speaker 1: when everything shuts down and not things to do anything. 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,321 Speaker 2: Yeah. And so the constant comment that I've had from 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: all these different moms over the past few weeks has 19 00:01:17,041 --> 00:01:22,121 Speaker 2: just been I'm drowning and it hasn't really even started yet. 20 00:01:22,721 --> 00:01:26,721 Speaker 2: I in particular ask this one mum she's got three boys, 21 00:01:27,401 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: and she was saying for her, rowing has started. And 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,161 Speaker 2: so rowing means consistent every morning up at like four 23 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,681 Speaker 2: to be at training by four point forty five am, 24 00:01:40,721 --> 00:01:44,561 Speaker 2: and she's driving the kids Acrosstown to do this to 25 00:01:44,601 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: get to school. 26 00:01:45,161 --> 00:01:47,761 Speaker 1: By this time, I wouldn't allow them to do it. Well, 27 00:01:48,321 --> 00:01:51,281 Speaker 1: I've been saying, I didn't give them the option to 28 00:01:51,441 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: take up rowing who had to get that's really much. 29 00:01:54,681 --> 00:01:58,001 Speaker 2: Off of me. She goes, I feel like I'm so 30 00:01:58,201 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: tired right now that I'm drunk. And I just sort 31 00:02:01,561 --> 00:02:02,961 Speaker 2: of looked at her and was like, how are you 32 00:02:03,001 --> 00:02:05,121 Speaker 2: going to do this for another What is it like 33 00:02:05,201 --> 00:02:08,201 Speaker 2: seven weeks or eight weeks? I don't think that is 34 00:02:08,241 --> 00:02:10,441 Speaker 2: for me. I don't think it is. 35 00:02:10,681 --> 00:02:12,441 Speaker 1: I think they finish in November. 36 00:02:12,761 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: No, her boys are definitely not. They're not in senior year. 37 00:02:15,841 --> 00:02:17,601 Speaker 2: So and then it's Christmas. 38 00:02:17,761 --> 00:02:19,681 Speaker 1: That's, oh my god, it's October. 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we're not talking about that. 40 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:24,401 Speaker 1: I can't believe it because as soon as the Halloween 41 00:02:24,561 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: ship finishes next week one. 42 00:02:26,881 --> 00:02:30,601 Speaker 2: Of the moms that thing is Christmas mom goes she said, 43 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,721 Speaker 2: I said, oh, are you guys doing anything for Halloween? 44 00:02:32,761 --> 00:02:35,281 Speaker 2: And she went, oh, by the time I decorate for Halloween, 45 00:02:35,321 --> 00:02:39,441 Speaker 2: it'll be fucking christ Yeah, it Christmas. So she said, 46 00:02:39,441 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm skipping Halloween decorations. AND's going straight to Christmas. Am 47 00:02:53,441 --> 00:02:57,081 Speaker 2: I a bad mum for wanting to put a stop 48 00:02:57,161 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: to it? Okay, well, this is just a hot topic 49 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: and it's straight off the bat of I said it 50 00:03:04,041 --> 00:03:07,161 Speaker 2: on Channel nine News caught me off guard cooking dinner. 51 00:03:07,401 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: TV's on in the background. The top most expensive children's 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: sport that your kids could be doing as extracurricular okay, 53 00:03:16,921 --> 00:03:18,881 Speaker 2: and they had like the table up and it was 54 00:03:18,921 --> 00:03:23,441 Speaker 2: like the top ten. Wasn't only then at night, it 55 00:03:23,481 --> 00:03:25,641 Speaker 2: was the following morning it was on the Today Show 56 00:03:25,761 --> 00:03:27,561 Speaker 2: like they're trying to make so I don't know why. 57 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:29,921 Speaker 2: I don't know why. We're at the end of the year. 58 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,361 Speaker 2: We've already paid our fees. Yeah, don't worry about telling 59 00:03:32,441 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: us now how much could paid bad? Yeah, don't worry. 60 00:03:35,481 --> 00:03:37,121 Speaker 2: It's not going to show you what the forecast is 61 00:03:37,121 --> 00:03:39,521 Speaker 2: for next year. What could I have spent my money on? 62 00:03:39,641 --> 00:03:41,721 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh look at me. I could have saved 63 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:45,241 Speaker 2: this amount of money. I genuinely though, had to go, 64 00:03:46,041 --> 00:03:50,561 Speaker 2: holy shit, because we and you, for your girls, we're 65 00:03:50,561 --> 00:03:55,881 Speaker 2: paying two lots of this. So the top most expensive 66 00:03:56,361 --> 00:04:02,641 Speaker 2: children's sport is dance, dance, dance, damn yeh. 67 00:04:02,801 --> 00:04:06,721 Speaker 1: Because it's not just the fee is for them to learn, 68 00:04:07,121 --> 00:04:10,161 Speaker 1: it's then the costume. Yeah, and then you have to 69 00:04:10,201 --> 00:04:13,041 Speaker 1: pay to go to the concert. Yeah, And that's just 70 00:04:13,161 --> 00:04:16,121 Speaker 1: expense after expense, and you have to pay for the photos. 71 00:04:16,841 --> 00:04:19,561 Speaker 2: They even gave you This is the funniest part. They 72 00:04:19,601 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: even gave you the breakdown of how much you were spending. 73 00:04:24,161 --> 00:04:28,121 Speaker 2: And they said, obviously with dance being frequently cited as 74 00:04:28,161 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: the most expensive overall, with costs averaging over thirty thousand 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: dollars for a child's childhood in Australia, Wow, so you're 76 00:04:39,721 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: spending at a minimum thirty thousand dollars of that childhood 77 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,121 Speaker 2: span of how long they do dance, yeah, which I'm 78 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: over fine. 79 00:04:49,121 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: They did it from three until. 80 00:04:53,841 --> 00:04:56,801 Speaker 2: Like fourteen or fifteen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a long time. 81 00:04:56,921 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I was not sad when they gave that outrage. I 82 00:04:59,281 --> 00:05:02,321 Speaker 1: had a moment I think I went to the last concert, yeah, 83 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,481 Speaker 1: and had a moment. 84 00:05:03,241 --> 00:05:05,521 Speaker 2: Of oh, this is the last, this is a life. 85 00:05:05,681 --> 00:05:08,161 Speaker 1: A little bit sad, yes, in that moment, and then 86 00:05:08,201 --> 00:05:10,001 Speaker 1: after that I was like, oh no, I'm so fine. 87 00:05:10,641 --> 00:05:14,121 Speaker 1: I the next chapter, onto the next expense. I don't 88 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,641 Speaker 1: keep her, No, it just just moves on. 89 00:05:17,601 --> 00:05:19,841 Speaker 2: To you, moved on to well, that was what I 90 00:05:19,921 --> 00:05:22,921 Speaker 2: was going to say to you. Was the second most 91 00:05:23,041 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: frequent of the top of the list. Annual expenses around 92 00:05:27,921 --> 00:05:31,241 Speaker 2: the three thousand dollar mark. So we're thinking fees for 93 00:05:31,281 --> 00:05:34,481 Speaker 2: a year ice hockey. Oh yeah, and your girls did 94 00:05:34,481 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: ice skating, yeah, Jesus. 95 00:05:37,361 --> 00:05:38,361 Speaker 1: Most expensive one. 96 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,041 Speaker 2: Yeah. Tennis is up there with costs averaging around sixteen 97 00:05:42,161 --> 00:05:48,801 Speaker 2: thousand over a childhood in Australia. Gymnastics closely followed behind that. Cricket. 98 00:05:50,121 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: I think we dance, I just go, naturally, I know 99 00:05:53,641 --> 00:05:57,281 Speaker 2: that we're getting hold per term, how much we're getting paid, right, 100 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,801 Speaker 2: and I've only got one child dancing now, whom also 101 00:05:59,921 --> 00:06:02,641 Speaker 2: has danced since she was three. But at the same 102 00:06:02,681 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: time I sort of went, I don't even turn a 103 00:06:04,641 --> 00:06:06,761 Speaker 2: blind eye to it now, like does that make sense? 104 00:06:06,841 --> 00:06:09,321 Speaker 2: Like I just go, we know how much we've got 105 00:06:09,361 --> 00:06:12,121 Speaker 2: to pay if she's going to continue to do her dance, 106 00:06:12,361 --> 00:06:17,281 Speaker 2: and that is per term. Here I am complaining Elsie's 107 00:06:17,281 --> 00:06:21,241 Speaker 2: starting netball. Oh my god, three hundred and seventy five 108 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,001 Speaker 2: dollars for a year of netple. That is crazy. Like 109 00:06:26,121 --> 00:06:28,721 Speaker 2: I'm banging on like it's the worst thing in the world, 110 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,681 Speaker 2: because that is expensive. When they came on three hundred 111 00:06:31,721 --> 00:06:34,881 Speaker 2: and seventy five dollars for the year, we're just your 112 00:06:34,921 --> 00:06:38,081 Speaker 2: fees to play. Is that not good? Well, no, it's 113 00:06:38,121 --> 00:06:39,521 Speaker 2: still expensive, I believe. 114 00:06:39,561 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: But and then that how many is that like once 115 00:06:42,961 --> 00:06:43,881 Speaker 1: a week. 116 00:06:43,841 --> 00:06:46,601 Speaker 2: Or yeah, once a week. And that's just the winter season. 117 00:06:46,921 --> 00:06:49,721 Speaker 2: So now we're into summer, Katie, I've paid again, oh 118 00:06:49,761 --> 00:06:52,841 Speaker 2: summer yeah yeah, yeah, because we're now finished winter because 119 00:06:52,841 --> 00:06:55,241 Speaker 2: apparently netball now isn't just a winter sport, it's an 120 00:06:55,241 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: all rounder sport. And so it's of course make another competition. Yeah, 121 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,481 Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it's forty degree heat. 122 00:07:03,561 --> 00:07:05,401 Speaker 1: Put them out there, and then do they have does 123 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: she have to have like a certain jersey? 124 00:07:07,961 --> 00:07:12,441 Speaker 2: Yeah, uniform, uniform. And then on top of that, Gracie goes, 125 00:07:12,441 --> 00:07:14,881 Speaker 2: I think I might want to play touch touch footy, 126 00:07:14,921 --> 00:07:16,761 Speaker 2: and I was like, well, how much the fe's go 127 00:07:16,961 --> 00:07:20,201 Speaker 2: touch footy? Yeah, on top of dance and then on 128 00:07:20,241 --> 00:07:23,081 Speaker 2: top of school and then on top of us. Okay, 129 00:07:23,281 --> 00:07:26,401 Speaker 2: how much? But touch footy was reasonable So for me 130 00:07:26,521 --> 00:07:28,641 Speaker 2: even to sign my name up, get this, I'm playing 131 00:07:28,681 --> 00:07:32,361 Speaker 2: touch football? Yeah? Am I playing touch football? Or trying 132 00:07:32,361 --> 00:07:34,241 Speaker 2: to way touch for all, I'm going to go trying. 133 00:07:34,761 --> 00:07:37,241 Speaker 2: But I even wrote back and was like, is this 134 00:07:37,281 --> 00:07:38,881 Speaker 2: how much it's going to cost me to play like 135 00:07:39,081 --> 00:07:43,121 Speaker 2: six games of touch footy? This is wild? Like yeah, insurances. 136 00:07:43,841 --> 00:07:47,321 Speaker 2: I was like, insurances, why because I'm old? This is bullshit. 137 00:07:47,801 --> 00:07:50,201 Speaker 2: And then even Graces, I think Gracie's was going to 138 00:07:50,281 --> 00:07:51,881 Speaker 2: be something like one eighty. 139 00:07:52,241 --> 00:07:54,201 Speaker 1: This is the thing. And then it just feels constant 140 00:07:54,201 --> 00:07:58,001 Speaker 1: because a season or a term or whatever. 141 00:07:57,801 --> 00:07:59,481 Speaker 2: It might be, it goes so fast. 142 00:07:59,561 --> 00:08:01,681 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're like, oh, you have a moment 143 00:08:01,721 --> 00:08:05,401 Speaker 1: of going, oh, everything's paid up to date, and then 144 00:08:05,601 --> 00:08:06,361 Speaker 1: here's another. 145 00:08:06,161 --> 00:08:08,961 Speaker 2: One, here's ten two, pay this again, and you're like, 146 00:08:09,081 --> 00:08:12,001 Speaker 2: oh my gosh. And if your child is anything like 147 00:08:12,121 --> 00:08:14,721 Speaker 2: mine at the moment, we start the year in a 148 00:08:14,761 --> 00:08:19,601 Speaker 2: certain sized uniform and shoes, and now at the end 149 00:08:19,601 --> 00:08:23,521 Speaker 2: of the year, I'm buying more shoes that have gone 150 00:08:23,601 --> 00:08:25,281 Speaker 2: up nearly two sizes. 151 00:08:25,801 --> 00:08:26,201 Speaker 1: Yeah. 152 00:08:26,281 --> 00:08:28,641 Speaker 2: I said to it, hang on a sec. Are you 153 00:08:28,681 --> 00:08:31,241 Speaker 2: sure these are right shoes for you? How could you 154 00:08:31,241 --> 00:08:33,081 Speaker 2: have been wearing those other ones? She goes, Mom, they've 155 00:08:33,081 --> 00:08:36,561 Speaker 2: been typed for do you know how You've been typed 156 00:08:36,601 --> 00:08:39,241 Speaker 2: for the whole season? And I was like, so at 157 00:08:39,281 --> 00:08:41,961 Speaker 2: what stage didn't you think to go Mum, I can 158 00:08:42,001 --> 00:08:44,241 Speaker 2: barely run in my shoes any longer, she goes, So 159 00:08:44,281 --> 00:08:46,201 Speaker 2: I do want to ask for nuance. I said, you've 160 00:08:46,321 --> 00:08:49,201 Speaker 2: just gone up two and a half sizes. That's a 161 00:08:49,241 --> 00:08:52,961 Speaker 2: big difference. Yeah. Anyway, the Asseix man made me feel 162 00:08:53,121 --> 00:08:54,561 Speaker 2: really bad about my Parentdee. 163 00:08:54,841 --> 00:08:57,441 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, at least you didn't put your kids in 164 00:08:57,481 --> 00:09:02,121 Speaker 1: school shoes for like three years. Are like seven sizes 165 00:09:02,161 --> 00:09:05,681 Speaker 1: too big and like flap them. 166 00:09:05,841 --> 00:09:08,561 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was I remember that podcast. They're probably going 167 00:09:08,601 --> 00:09:09,521 Speaker 2: to make grade twelve in. 168 00:09:09,481 --> 00:09:12,921 Speaker 1: Them, Rach. Honestly, I'm not buying any Amelia's lost a 169 00:09:13,041 --> 00:09:15,761 Speaker 1: jumper in winter. I'm like, I am not buying a 170 00:09:15,801 --> 00:09:18,881 Speaker 1: single piece of school uniform next year. For the last year. 171 00:09:19,241 --> 00:09:22,561 Speaker 1: You just make do with what you've got, Yes, right, 172 00:09:22,961 --> 00:09:27,161 Speaker 1: I will have only have bought two pairs of shoes, well, 173 00:09:27,241 --> 00:09:32,601 Speaker 1: four kids two pairs of shoes each for their entire 174 00:09:32,681 --> 00:09:33,721 Speaker 1: high school years. 175 00:09:33,761 --> 00:09:35,441 Speaker 2: But how many hats have you replaced? 176 00:09:36,081 --> 00:09:39,041 Speaker 1: I don't even replace the hats anymore. They know that 177 00:09:39,201 --> 00:09:42,521 Speaker 1: I don't replace hats anymore. They go with their sports 178 00:09:42,521 --> 00:09:46,361 Speaker 1: bucket hat m and blazer. 179 00:09:46,801 --> 00:09:48,401 Speaker 2: Did you end up replacing a blazer? 180 00:09:48,561 --> 00:09:54,481 Speaker 1: No? Blazers. I've got air tags in them. Oh yeah, yeah, 181 00:09:54,641 --> 00:09:56,041 Speaker 1: so I can track where they are. 182 00:09:56,361 --> 00:10:00,881 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's very smart. Yeah I know, and way 183 00:10:00,961 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: cheaper than replacing a blazer because your blazers are expensive. 184 00:10:04,761 --> 00:10:09,361 Speaker 1: Wh I pass a block shop, the dance shop block. 185 00:10:10,161 --> 00:10:12,641 Speaker 1: I smile to myself about not needing to go in 186 00:10:12,681 --> 00:10:13,361 Speaker 1: there and buy. 187 00:10:13,201 --> 00:10:16,961 Speaker 2: Tap shoes and shit. I walked fast, step by step 188 00:10:17,041 --> 00:10:19,561 Speaker 2: yesterday and I felt I don't want to go in. 189 00:10:19,761 --> 00:10:22,561 Speaker 2: Please don't make me go in. I was like, oh, 190 00:10:22,601 --> 00:10:25,761 Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. We only replaced shoes 191 00:10:26,081 --> 00:10:28,881 Speaker 2: midway through this year, and for the first time we 192 00:10:28,961 --> 00:10:33,041 Speaker 2: bought secondhand shoes. Tap shoes, yeah, because I said to her, 193 00:10:33,081 --> 00:10:35,681 Speaker 2: you don't even know that you're gonna like these, and no, 194 00:10:35,761 --> 00:10:38,041 Speaker 2: it's from this teacher and she's so good. And I 195 00:10:38,081 --> 00:10:40,121 Speaker 2: was like, she still wants fifty dollars for them, and 196 00:10:40,161 --> 00:10:45,121 Speaker 2: they're pretty warned. Can you negotiated a bit roller, negotiate 197 00:10:45,281 --> 00:10:45,561 Speaker 2: down