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Speaker 1: No other set off. This is sas Australia. One man

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Speaker 1: we know that's not afraid of hard work. Is Kobe

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Speaker 1: evident last night though, And if you've seen the bra

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Speaker 1: But if you don't, Kobe opened up last night when

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Speaker 3: They got into an altercation in the car and Tony

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Speaker 4: What ended up happening was they went through.

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Speaker 3: The body over the cliff and drove back to my

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Speaker 4: Come in the house covered in blood.

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Speaker 4: So the police.

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Speaker 3: Come in and asked me about the blood on him.

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Speaker 4: I just said he always comes like home like that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about the situation and give them

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Speaker 4: That they wanted.

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Speaker 1: They said I knew more.

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Speaker 4: I said I didn't and I didn't.

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Speaker 3: So I got charge for perverting the course of justice

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Speaker 4: Joint live from Barbie by Mate.

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Speaker 5: Great to have you on and I've loved watching you

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Speaker 5: too is the way you're able to harness your energy

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Speaker 5: very quickly got over the edge. You were pumped, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Mate, I've got a little five year old now, and

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Speaker 4: It was all the things I love. If I had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about because obviously you knew that this

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it changed the face of my life, the

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Speaker 3: And she tried really hard so just to bring up

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Speaker 3: They're all my best friends growing up from life. You know,

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Speaker 4: I don't try to be to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I always have love in my heart and I

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Speaker 5: I thought that was a really good point. Because you

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Speaker 4: Is that right? Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: Like like I said, a lot of the people aren't

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Speaker 4: Bad elements in three hundred of any men, you know,

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Speaker 3: But without them I would have been a way worse

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Speaker 2: Hey, Kobe, with your personal life, but also now with

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Speaker 3: Well, if I was to be honest, I enjoy a

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Speaker 4: I do have a little family, you know, if any

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Speaker 3: It's like what I can't fix in my family, you know,

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Speaker 3: if I can, I'm super glow of your kids, you know,

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Speaker 4: When I'm pretty good with my hands and I can

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Speaker 3: Only thing that scares me is having no control over

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Speaker 2: Did that surprise you when you became a dad? Did

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Speaker 3: I never had one, Yeah, so I was kind of

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Speaker 3: it can change any man's heart. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, times you coved you made the You've gone over

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Speaker 3: Innes has never been more beautiful, mane, It's just stunny.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely the elements of people being sick, but it's

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Speaker 4: But I don't know COVID and I asked, I'll probably

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Speaker 5: We need to ask. I mean, one thing you'd miss

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in a bit of a treat tonight, is

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Speaker 1: that correct?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I might have to hide from me phone tonight.

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Speaker 1: Mate.

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Speaker 4: I've let it me and are pretty good friends. And

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Speaker 4: Sammy was on there. You know, you put you put

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Speaker 4: us in an environment men. Yeah, you get chatting. You know,

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Speaker 4: we're just chatted as men chat as we're worse than

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Speaker 3: We chating and we chat shit and sometimes you forget

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Speaker 3: about I definitely ain't getting the Grand Final ticket this year.

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Speaker 4: That's about.

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Speaker 1: Have you already text Russell saying I just want you

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Speaker 4: Nah, I'm just going to hide from that.

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Speaker 5: I burn your phone completely. But you know, maybe this

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Speaker 5: is listening right now, and Rusty, if you want to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there you go. He's a good man, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I've got nothing bad to say about Russell.

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Speaker 3: Russell come to me about ten years ago and said

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Speaker 3: I want to make Souse Sydney Premiership team.

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Speaker 4: Within three years, he'd done it everything he says, he's

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Speaker 3: He's a real man. Yeah, what he says gets done.

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Speaker 3: We need someone like that run in the country. This

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Speaker 3: country is in a really bad shape right now. We

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Speaker 3: need the leaders who are real men, who are loyal

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Speaker 3: and speak their words and follow through of their words.

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Speaker 5: Can we love.

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Speaker 4: Right now?

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Speaker 1: Hey, I think you're going to go far in this competition.

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Speaker 1: The only thing is I think your body might let

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Speaker 1: bad injuries over the years, but can you can you

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Speaker 1: give us one? Give us one of the other contestants

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Speaker 1: that really blew you away, Covees that you went, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, the mental fortitude of that girl or that

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Speaker 3: Sam on that time when he went through the tube,

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Speaker 3: I was just like May, I was stuck in there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That was the first thing to say.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I don't know if I could have done that

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Speaker 3: a human. I thought that that Jana was amazing leader.

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Speaker 3: She was a single mom of three kids and now

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Speaker 3: she's a doctor. She's had had the three kids and

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden she's a doctor. You know,

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Speaker 3: like she goes hard on everything. She's a really great

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Speaker 4: And you know, we need another woman if there's going

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Speaker 4: to be a woman leader in Australia. That's how woman.

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Speaker 3: Mate, chancewers on vaccine mandatory vaccines, which is absolute garbage.

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Speaker 3: As soon as she changes that, she's our PM mate,

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Speaker 3: that's she's a legend.

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Speaker 1: Well mate, we appreciate your time. Kobe. It'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how you go. But mate, look after yourself

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Speaker 1: over in Bali, and thank you very much for coming

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Speaker 1: on the show.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, I'm going to spend the day out

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Speaker 3: in the ocean with me, kid and my wife and

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Speaker 3: I have a really good day. I hope you guys

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Speaker 3: in Sydney are all traveling well. Any words that you

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Speaker 3: hear me say, I'm on your support, on your side always.

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Speaker 3: I support Sydney. I love Australia, good night country and

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So thanks for everything, guys. I hope you all

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Speaker 4: have a great day. It fits in with her