Speaker 1: Live on Sky News Australia. This is de Nika de Georgio.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight.
Speaker 3: Pauline Hansen is now the most popular politician in the
Speaker 3: country as one nation's primary vote surges according to a
Speaker 3: new poll that's just dropped. I'll get Barnaby Joyce's reaction. Shortly,
Speaker 3: Jim Chalmers told us he'd slayed the inflation dragon, yet
Speaker 3: an interest rate hike is all but guaranteed on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Economist Leith van Nsulin has crunched the numbers. He'll tell
Speaker 3: us what it means for your hip pocket when the
Speaker 3: federal budget is handed down and it goes from bad
Speaker 3: to worse.
Speaker 2: For Andrew mount Batton Windsor as.
Speaker 3: New photos are released of him on all fours over
Speaker 3: a female, I'll go live to London and catch up
Speaker 3: with gb News host Emily Carver. But first tonight, Australia
Speaker 3: welcomed Labour's hand picked race discrimination Commissioner, Giradahan Siveraman into
Speaker 3: this country with welcome arms. He was born in India
Speaker 3: and migrated to Australia as a.
Speaker 2: Child, and wow, what a career he's had.
Speaker 3: From lawyer at Morris Blackburn to being appointed to the
Speaker 3: Human Rights Commission on a salary paid by you to
Speaker 3: the tune of four hundred thousand dollars a year. This
Speaker 3: country has given him a lot. So how does the
Speaker 3: commissioner repay the Australia that welcomed him and has helped
Speaker 3: him flourish and earn a very good living.
Speaker 2: Well, mister SILVERL. Rahman has gone on an SBS.
Speaker 3: Podcast called The Spice to talk about Australia Day and
Speaker 3: Australian values. Now you might be thinking, oh, he's shown
Speaker 3: his pride and love for the country he migrated.
Speaker 2: To for a better life.
Speaker 3: No, his idea of thanking Australia basically involves blaming assies
Speaker 3: for what he describes as an undercurrent of nationalism. He said,
Speaker 3: when it comes to January twenty six, it becomes so
Speaker 3: difficult because there's this undercurrent of nationalism love it or
Speaker 3: leave it phenomenon where people go, well, unless you're with
Speaker 3: us against us, and so you've just got to on January.
Speaker 2: Twenty six, you've got to kiss the flag, love the country,
Speaker 2: otherwise go away.
Speaker 3: Well, god forbid, you want to kiss your flag? How
Speaker 3: dare you stoke that division? So it's loving your country.
Speaker 3: Apparently that's a problem. What a real charming way to
Speaker 3: give gratitude to the country. The commissioner came to and
Speaker 3: then he went.
Speaker 4: On the independence for India is such a different thing
Speaker 4: to January twenty six. In Australia, independence from India was
Speaker 4: finally shaking off the yoke of the colonial masters, the British,
Speaker 4: whereas here January twenty sixth six is such a conflicted day.
Speaker 4: And for me, as a migrant from India, I was
Speaker 4: born in India, I came here when I was young.
Speaker 4: I feel very conflicted when I think about January twenty six.
Speaker 2: Well, if you have.
Speaker 3: A problem with what we do in Australia and how
Speaker 3: we celebrate, and you are so pro the country you
Speaker 3: have come from, then why not go back? I mean,
Speaker 3: the progressive left have been slowly infiltrating and ultimately seeking
Speaker 3: to tear down the values and traditions of the Australia
Speaker 3: that once was, with the ultimate aim of destroying everything
Speaker 3: that British settlers brought to this country.
Speaker 2: And we are the lucky country.
Speaker 3: And I will point out Australia is home to almost
Speaker 3: one million Indian born residents, and I would be curious
Speaker 3: to put those comments by the commissioner to anyone of
Speaker 3: those who love this country.
Speaker 2: But here was the real pearler.
Speaker 4: I think, what are we celebrating. We're all on stolen
Speaker 4: land and we actually need truth telling about the history
Speaker 4: of this land.
Speaker 2: We're all on stolen land.
Speaker 3: Well, that sounds to me like we're all culpable of
Speaker 3: something that's morally wrong, because that's what theft is. Right now,
Speaker 3: if he believes this land was stolen, then why has
Speaker 3: he accepted a salary worth.
Speaker 2: Hundreds of thousands of dollars from all of us.
Speaker 3: Doesn't that make him equally as culpable in what he
Speaker 3: claims we are? And in his final attack on Australia,
Speaker 3: he gave migrants this message.
Speaker 4: If we're going to come together, we should come together
Speaker 4: on a platform of truth and honesty. And I think
Speaker 4: migrants need to have that understanding, that sense of positionality
Speaker 4: where they are.
Speaker 2: Look, this is extraordinary.
Speaker 3: He even went as far as to suggest to the
Speaker 3: Saturday Telegraph that the day had been co opted by
Speaker 3: white supremacists. He says it is a day when colonialization began,
Speaker 3: which led to first peoples being forced off their country
Speaker 3: and onto missions and reserves, genocidal acts, massacres, systemic child
Speaker 3: removal and more. It is, in my view, it is
Speaker 3: not racist to love your country. Let's be very clear,
Speaker 3: it is not racist to be proud of your country.
Speaker 3: Yet for a commissioner who was supposed to be putting
Speaker 3: an end to racism and division, he seems to be
Speaker 3: obsessed with the contrary and apparently Australia Day is not
Speaker 3: the only day the race Discrimination Commissioner.
Speaker 2: Is having a hard time with.
Speaker 3: He doesn't like public holidays in general, claiming the only
Speaker 3: religious public holidays recognized by law are Christian ones. He
Speaker 3: doesn't like Harmony Day because it is somewhat jarring that
Speaker 3: a day recognizing a massacre born of racism is replaced
Speaker 3: with a day of celebration under the banner of Harmony Day.
Speaker 3: He doesn't want a migration debate because it serves to
Speaker 3: stoke the already smoldering fires of racism. Apparently, well, I'll
Speaker 3: give the commissioner an idea of why we talk about
Speaker 3: what is happening in some sections of our community.
Speaker 5: Towards the end of the times, when the Muslims will
Speaker 5: be fighting the Jews, the trees will speak, the stone
Speaker 5: will speak and they will say, oh Muslim, oh believer,
Speaker 5: there is a YAHOODI behind me, Come and kill him.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: It's certainly not racist to point out that our social
Speaker 3: cohesion has fractured. He claims councils were built during colonial
Speaker 3: times and banked in during the White Australia policy, saying
Speaker 3: they were not designed to let in people of color.
Speaker 3: They certainly weren't designed for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people,
Speaker 3: which is quite ironic when you think councils have spent
Speaker 3: millions on welcome to country ceremonies, four million a year
Speaker 3: on first Nation ceremonies and protocols alone in just one
Speaker 3: South Australian council. The commissioner was even offended when a
Speaker 3: listener on a radio station said he sounded oker. I
Speaker 3: felt embarrassed, a bit ashamed. Deep down, I knew I
Speaker 3: had developed my strine to fit in. I had to
Speaker 3: let go of my mother tongue Tamil, a language of
Speaker 3: beautiful literature and poetry, so as not to sound different,
Speaker 3: claiming it as a result of institutions and structures that
Speaker 3: divide us. Well, the number one language in this country
Speaker 3: is English, and given the Race Commissioner's prominent role, you'd
Speaker 3: think it would indeed require him to speak the beautiful
Speaker 3: literary and poetry that is English, but it's not something
Speaker 3: that he's even pondered.
Speaker 4: Now you're in the workplace, your muneration's been set, But
Speaker 4: are you culturally safe if you're from a racialized background
Speaker 4: or a First nation's background. Can languages other than English
Speaker 4: be spoken in the workplace? I know of many workplaces
Speaker 4: where people have been penalized for speaking languages other than English.
Speaker 3: Gosh, the Race Discrimination Commissioner is having just such a
Speaker 3: difficult time in Australia and he's only two years into
Speaker 3: his five year term. Is there anything ghirad Haran Sibaman
Speaker 3: likes about Australia, anything at all?
Speaker 4: So firstly, I just want to acknowledge that I'm coming
Speaker 4: to you from the unseated lands of the augur and
Speaker 4: the turable people here in meanjin to glorious, glorious sunny day.
Speaker 4: Pay my respects to elders present, and extend those respects
Speaker 4: to any Aboriginal entys other people that might be listening
Speaker 4: to this podcast.
Speaker 3: And that tells you everything you need to know about
Speaker 3: where your four hundred thousand dollars is going.
Speaker 2: Well. Let me paint a picture of Federal Parliament this
Speaker 2: week for you. Fresh off the back of their split, the.
Speaker 3: Liberals and Nationals won't sit together as one for the
Speaker 3: first time since the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2: Nationals leader David.
Speaker 3: Little Proud could face a leadership spill tomorrow after NAT's
Speaker 3: MP Colinn Boyce mounted a challenge claiming he was unhappy
Speaker 3: with the way his leader handled the divorce. Yet Boyce
Speaker 3: today admitted he probably doesn't even have the numbers.
Speaker 7: Now the way it stands at the moment. If David
Speaker 7: retains the leadership, which I expect he will, I will
Speaker 7: be comprehensibly defeated. I'm sincerely hoping that somebody else will
Speaker 7: stand up and nominate for leadership other than that.
Speaker 3: Now it's highly unusual admission for someone who has spent
Speaker 3: the past week plotting to topple a leader, But then
Speaker 3: there's a Liberal part leader. Susan Lee is all at sea,
Speaker 3: yet for now it appears she will survive as leader
Speaker 3: of the Opposition for how long who knows. After a
Speaker 3: meeting last week between potential replacements Angus Taylor and Andrew Hasty.
Speaker 3: Hasty then pulled out of any potential leadership challenge. Chief
Speaker 3: political reporter Andrew Clarnell is reporting that Angus Taylor won't
Speaker 3: challenge for the Liberal leadership when the party room meets
Speaker 3: on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: So we have a situation.
Speaker 3: Where Susan Lee is not only at odds with Labor,
Speaker 3: but she's at odds with the Nationals and at odds.
Speaker 2: With the right of her party.
Speaker 3: She's set the deadline of February nine for the Nats
Speaker 3: to rejoin the coalition or she will reallocate their shadow
Speaker 3: portfolios to.
Speaker 2: Her Liberal colleagues.
Speaker 3: Little Proud has turned down her offer of peace talks
Speaker 3: ahead of Parliament, and both would be hoping each.
Speaker 2: Other gets rolled.
Speaker 3: Yet Liberal senator and Rusten claims that the Liberal Party
Speaker 3: can go to an election alone.
Speaker 8: Well, the certainty is unless you get back in coalition,
Speaker 8: you can't win an election, isn't that.
Speaker 9: The Well, I think you've only got a look at
Speaker 9: history to say that that actually isn't true. But of
Speaker 9: course we are always stronger when we are in coalition,
Speaker 9: and I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 2: But you know, to be a to be.
Speaker 8: Think he can win just as a Liberal party, You
Speaker 8: think he can just win as a Liberal party, do.
Speaker 9: You It's happened before, Andrew and I think the one
Speaker 9: thing that we've learned in politics is that you know,
Speaker 9: you never say never, that things change very very quickly.
Speaker 3: Look, she's dreaming. The party can't go it alone. It
Speaker 3: needs the Nationals to form government. And as you can imagine,
Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi is having the time of his life.
Speaker 10: Well they're shambles and they're focused on each other and
Speaker 10: their hatred of each other. We're focused on the Australian
Speaker 10: people and their needs and the national interest. You can't
Speaker 10: fight for Australians if you're obsessed by fighting yourselves, and
Speaker 10: that is what the former coalition have become.
Speaker 2: Have I missed anything?
Speaker 3: I mean it's a complete circus And have a look
Speaker 3: at this breaking news tonight. New polling from Redbridge and
Speaker 3: Accent in the Financial Review tells the full story. One
Speaker 3: nation's primary vote is sitting at twenty six percent, up
Speaker 3: nine percent. Have a look at the coalitions nineteen percent.
Speaker 3: That's down seven Pauline Hansen is now the most popular
Speaker 3: politician in the country with thirty eight percent favorable rating,
Speaker 3: and that is compared to the Prime Minister on thirty
Speaker 3: four percent. Susan Lee ten percent behind both Andrew Hasty
Speaker 3: and Angus Taylor. Seriously, Australia deserves better than this. Where
Speaker 3: is the alternative government that conservative voters across this country
Speaker 3: are crying out for?
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 3: No wonder One Nation is now more popular than the
Speaker 3: former coalition, And the longer this divorce goes on and
Speaker 3: leadership tensions are dragged out, the more votes go to
Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson's party.
Speaker 2: Why because the.
Speaker 3: Liberals have totally straight away from their conservative values.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I think it was always likely to be the case.
Speaker 3: Andrew Hasty would not get the numbers as the bedwetting
Speaker 3: moderates throw the one nation light label around, and I
Speaker 3: think it's a shame. I think Andrew Hasty has been
Speaker 3: very strong on immigration and energy policy, albeit it was
Speaker 3: disappointing to see him capitulate over that hate speech legislation,
Speaker 3: but he has never been one to shy away from
Speaker 3: his views and that is what the party needs now.
Speaker 3: Late on Friday, Angus Taylor posted on social media that
Speaker 3: he shares those values with Hasty, saying he is a
Speaker 3: patriot committed to tackling the big problems our country faces
Speaker 3: and I share many of his views on reducing immigration,
Speaker 3: restoring cheap energy, reviving Australian industry and rebuilding national pride.
Speaker 3: So if Angus Taylor is the man who will mount
Speaker 3: a challenge, then surely, surely he cannot waste any more
Speaker 3: time because the polls are diabolical for Susan Lee. But
Speaker 3: already the sharks are coming for Taylor.
Speaker 11: Of course, the convention is if one does not support
Speaker 11: the leader, they step aside. Angus hasn't done that, so
Speaker 11: my running assumption is he continues to support Susan Lee
Speaker 11: in her leadership.
Speaker 2: In the end, the Liberal Party can change leaders.
Speaker 3: But unless it has strong, cut through policies that are
Speaker 3: not labor light and backed up by a fearless leader
Speaker 3: who is willing to take a stand on issues like immigration,
Speaker 3: like who we are bringing into this country, our social cohesion, energy,
Speaker 3: putting our values first, then the party will remain in
Speaker 3: the wilderness for a long time to come. The focus
Speaker 3: this week should be on inflation. The focus should be
Speaker 3: on the fact power prices are set to surge more
Speaker 3: than twenty percent this year as Labour's energy bills subsidies end.
Speaker 3: The band Aid was always going to be just that
Speaker 3: a band Aid. The focus should be on Anthony Albaneze's
Speaker 3: disastrous summer.
Speaker 2: In the wake of Bondai.
Speaker 3: The focus should be on cost of living, and yet
Speaker 3: the focus is on coalition disunity.
Speaker 2: Joinning me now is One Nation.
Speaker 3: MP Barnaby, Joyce Barnaby, it's great to get you on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 3: I do want to ask you about the coalition chaos
Speaker 3: in a moment, but I've got to ask you about
Speaker 3: that polling that's just dropped in the Financial Review. A
Speaker 3: poll done by Redbridge an accent has revealed that Pauline Hanson,
Speaker 3: your leader, is now the most popular political leader in
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 2: What's your response to that.
Speaker 12: That's because she's the most authentic, and that's because people
Speaker 12: understand that she's lived life where she's.
Speaker 1: Been in small business.
Speaker 12: That's because they understand we're dealing with a person who's
Speaker 12: so tough. I mean, this lady's been in jail and
Speaker 12: she came out and basically broke bread with the people
Speaker 12: who tried to put her in jail. Well did put
Speaker 12: her in People understand that what Pauline has said in
Speaker 12: the past and she's ridiculed for, has now come out
Speaker 12: to be the truth and people want Australia to be strong,
Speaker 12: they want it to be unified. They want strength, clarity, unity,
Speaker 12: and they see Pauline in one Nation delivering that and
Speaker 12: you know, of course, and it goes out saying that
Speaker 12: the Coalition it's so sad, but it's it's just disintegrated
Speaker 12: into a rubble. What we've seen, like what's going to happen, Danika,
Speaker 12: what's going to happen when they actually have to go
Speaker 12: to the question time where they all sit. When they
Speaker 12: go down there, they realize that if you're not a minister,
Speaker 12: you can't be in a shadow minister's office, if you're
Speaker 12: not a shadow ministry, you've got to go out.
Speaker 1: The staff are sacked.
Speaker 12: I mean, if Colin Boys leaves, the cross Bench will
Speaker 12: be bigger than the National Party. And that this is
Speaker 12: this they've just they've just signed off in a week
Speaker 12: where we are going to have interest rates put up.
Speaker 12: I imagine the Reserve Bank will bump them up. Cost
Speaker 12: of living will be a disaster for people. Angie price
Speaker 12: is going up by twenty five percent by first July.
Speaker 12: That's from them, that's from the government and people are
Speaker 12: at their hurting. Danika and I saw it the other
Speaker 12: day at a coffee shop four thousand dollars a quarter
Speaker 12: for his power bill, As he said to me, how
Speaker 12: many coffees do you think I have to sell to
Speaker 12: get four thousand dollars just to pay the power butcher
Speaker 12: shop down the road also considering closing down. This is
Speaker 12: happening in Australia right now. All our major industry is
Speaker 12: going and we've got the Chinese stooge around the joint
Speaker 12: sizing this up, and people are really angry. They just
Speaker 12: don't feel that we're focused on the main game. But
Speaker 12: one nation is focused on the main game, and we're
Speaker 12: incredibly humbled. We've got a massive task in front of us,
Speaker 12: and we know that vote is an indicator, not a vote.
Speaker 12: But we'll continue to do the best job we can
Speaker 12: to get the trust of the Israil people and we
Speaker 12: back it up on people who've been in business like
Speaker 12: my off and Pauline.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I do want to get back to the coalition and
Speaker 3: split in a minute, but I just want to bring
Speaker 3: up that polling again because if you have a look
Speaker 3: at at Barnaby, Pauline and yourself are way more favorable.
Speaker 2: To voters than any of the Liberals.
Speaker 3: You're currently sitting, as we can see on the screen there,
Speaker 3: you're sitting at twenty three percent, Pauline Hanson at thirty eight,
Speaker 3: Anthony Arberzi at thirty.
Speaker 2: Four, Susan Lee a mere ten percent.
Speaker 3: Also your former leader David Little Proud, he's on thirteen.
Speaker 2: What does that tell you?
Speaker 12: Well, speak as I say, Reebs the Locketter, it speaks
Speaker 12: for itself. I think there's been an epiphany in Australia
Speaker 12: and people feel now they have a license to basically say,
Speaker 12: in the more comfortable circumstances of dinner with their friends
Speaker 12: that yeah, I vote for one nation.
Speaker 1: I'm a one nation voter.
Speaker 12: And the more people are saying that to one another,
Speaker 12: they're saying, actually, yeah, actually I.
Speaker 1: Am now as well. And I see that. Whether it's the.
Speaker 12: Pensioners I saw on the road today over there over
Speaker 12: near Dorigo, whether it's Hippi's playing at a band at
Speaker 12: an RSL club he's turned up for lunch basically saying hey,
Speaker 12: we're voting one nation, and business people, senior business people
Speaker 12: in Sydney right at the very top saying that this
Speaker 12: is chaotic and we're not We're going to one nation.
Speaker 12: And I think One Nation has now given people license
Speaker 12: to do precisely that. And that's what happens is it's
Speaker 12: a political marketplace, and us on this side of the
Speaker 12: political fence believe in the market.
Speaker 1: And the market has.
Speaker 12: Now decided that there's a different product on the shelf
Speaker 12: and they're buying it.
Speaker 1: It's called One Nation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you must be pretty happy with the
Speaker 3: move you've made. The coalitions in a mess. As you
Speaker 3: said to where are they going to sit? Where are
Speaker 3: they going to sit? But I have to ask you
Speaker 3: what you were leader of the Nationals ones you managed
Speaker 3: to keep the coalition together in the past when you've
Speaker 3: had your vast differences.
Speaker 2: Is David Little Proud unable to do that? In your view?
Speaker 2: What is the problem?
Speaker 1: This is the second time they've had it.
Speaker 12: So they had a marriage when they after the election,
Speaker 12: then they had a divorce and days then they got
Speaker 12: back and got married again.
Speaker 1: Now they're getting divorced. Well they're divorced, but it's.
Speaker 12: All right because they want to get married again before
Speaker 12: the election.
Speaker 1: Now, if you went.
Speaker 12: To a dinner party uneek her and that was what
Speaker 12: was sitting across the table from you, would you think
Speaker 12: you had a pretty solid relationship in your that you
Speaker 12: were observing.
Speaker 1: Or would you say, I'm just.
Speaker 12: Going to work out how quickly i can have sweets
Speaker 12: and get the hell out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be going with the latter. You'd be saying,
Speaker 2: get me the heck out of here.
Speaker 3: But this is the this is the problem, and that's
Speaker 3: why I'm wondering where does it start.
Speaker 1: Should have gripped it together?
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, even people, I'll be honest, even
Speaker 12: people who mightn't be my actually my political foes within
Speaker 12: the National Party and other people who you know, I
Speaker 12: get along with. If you've been around for long enough,
Speaker 12: we all had one thing in common. You need not
Speaker 12: break up the coalition it is that is seismic.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna run that.
Speaker 12: You're not going to now with us with one nation
Speaker 12: and I'm looking forward to it. You haven't got three
Speaker 12: cornered contests. You got four cornered contests and.
Speaker 1: We're leading, and you know we'll be right in there.
Speaker 12: You decided to do that, that's your problem. And what
Speaker 12: are you going to say when we get this marriage
Speaker 12: back together again?
Speaker 1: It's all going to be fine. This time it's different.
Speaker 1: This time it's different.
Speaker 12: You know, no so, and now he hasn't actually thought
Speaker 12: the only person who's getting more salary, by the way,
Speaker 12: at the moment, would be missed a little proud you're
Speaker 12: getting his forty five percent increment as a minor party leader.
Speaker 12: All the rest, I hope they've got their mortgages worked
Speaker 12: out because they're going to take a big haircut.
Speaker 1: And there's staff these people. I really feel for their
Speaker 1: staff Asack they're gone. And by the.
Speaker 12: Way, I hope you've got your packing boxes out because
Speaker 12: you're out of your offices and out to the boondocks
Speaker 12: with the rest of us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to ask you about the race
Speaker 3: discrimination Commissioner. But but before I get to that, is
Speaker 3: Colin Boyce going to join one nation?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 12: Look, I leave that up to Colin boys As I've said,
Speaker 12: I don't hawk for I or Pauline.
Speaker 1: Pauline never hawked.
Speaker 12: For business with me, and neither the Sean and neither
Speaker 12: this Malcolm and nas Tyrant.
Speaker 1: And we're not hawking for business.
Speaker 12: If people want to approach one nation and discuss joining
Speaker 12: one nation, and I'm sure.
Speaker 1: There'll be the proper respect given to that process.
Speaker 2: But you've spoken to him, you've spoken to him.
Speaker 1: Well, my advice to everybody is to try and work
Speaker 1: it out. You know.
Speaker 12: My advice is, don't jump ship. Try and work it
Speaker 12: out where you are. Try and work the marriage out
Speaker 12: before you decide to get out of it. And that
Speaker 12: would have been good advice to give to mister little Brown.
Speaker 12: Just quietly, all right.
Speaker 2: Let's move on.
Speaker 3: I mentioned the race Discrimination Commissioner at the start of
Speaker 3: the program. He now claims, among other things, that we
Speaker 3: are on stolen land. I think this is staggering comments,
Speaker 3: firstly from an immigrant and a man who has built
Speaker 3: his career in Australia and is now in four hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars courtesy of the taxpayer.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on his comments.
Speaker 12: Well, I'm hoping he's going to hand over the titles
Speaker 12: of his house if it's stolen.
Speaker 1: It's disgusting.
Speaker 12: He's got to get out of that house, hand the
Speaker 12: titles back, and I've got a lot of Aboriginal friends
Speaker 12: around here. We can We'll take it and I can
Speaker 12: it out to his mates and Coldale though happily take
Speaker 12: the house off him, and anything else will have to
Speaker 12: be stolen as well, so they can hand over the
Speaker 12: car and handover his sleeper and handover everything.
Speaker 1: Else because obviously he is. He has outed himself.
Speaker 12: That he is a thief and he has got to
Speaker 12: be an honorable thief now and hand back all his
Speaker 12: stolen goodies to the to.
Speaker 1: The appropriate people. I've got a lot of people in
Speaker 1: line to take it off him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all culpable of theft. If you believe what
Speaker 2: he's saying here, Barnaby, it's sallow up like that.
Speaker 3: Well exactly that's where we're heading, Barnabe Joyce. It's great
Speaker 3: to have a chat with you as always. Thank you
Speaker 3: so much for joining me on the show. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: We'll joining me now. He's former New South Wales Police
Speaker 3: Minister David Elliott and verb Communications Peru McSwain.
Speaker 13: Hi to both of you, Thanks for joining me. I'll
Speaker 13: tell you what, Barnaby didn't mince his word.
Speaker 2: We've got it.
Speaker 14: We got it.
Speaker 13: Look, we have to obviously.
Speaker 3: Start on this polling and I'm very curious to get
Speaker 3: your response to this. David, as a member of the Liberals,
Speaker 3: it's diabolic.
Speaker 13: I mean you look at the primary vote the coalition.
Speaker 3: Is sitting on nineteen now, it's down seven one nation
Speaker 3: twenty six it's added.
Speaker 2: Nine to its primary vote.
Speaker 15: What's your response, Well, it's clearly panic stations and we
Speaker 15: need some serious leadership within the Conservative side of politics.
Speaker 15: Clearly Barnaby and Pauline are going to be calling the
Speaker 15: shots when it comes to the narrative from Conservative Australians
Speaker 15: over the course of the next two years.
Speaker 16: And what Barnaby said was right.
Speaker 15: Pauline's been now being proven as being prophetic and certainly
Speaker 15: she has been authentic and the Liberal Party hasn't. My
Speaker 15: great concern, it was put to me this morning by
Speaker 15: the very senior Liberal is that the Liberal Party.
Speaker 16: Have not realized how bad this is.
Speaker 15: They seem to think that this is a period in
Speaker 15: opposition that will pass and then in due course they
Speaker 15: will come back. But the pattern is suggesting that within
Speaker 15: the next three months one nation will have twice the
Speaker 15: vote of the coalition and so we really need those
Speaker 15: party elders to come in now and say right, you're going,
Speaker 15: you're going, you're going recruiting this person, this person, this person,
Speaker 15: and let's come up with the policies.
Speaker 16: Let's come up with a narrative that is going.
Speaker 15: To bring Conservative votes back in There's two problems with
Speaker 15: the Liberal Party at the moment. The first one is
Speaker 15: the moderates seem to think that we have to go
Speaker 15: to the center and kill the teels first. We're not
Speaker 15: getting back, We're not going to be getting those seats back.
Speaker 15: We need to go and appeal to the Conservative voters
Speaker 15: because they've clearly shown that they are going to go
Speaker 15: to Pauline Hansen just to punish us, and was put
Speaker 15: to me again today that's rightly or wrongly. There is
Speaker 15: more effort in the Liberal Party in Sydney at the
Speaker 15: moment to make sure that the float for the Mardi
Speaker 15: Grari has got together than it is to respond to
Speaker 15: what crisis we've got in Polish they are just cot
Speaker 15: of touch with what is going on. And thank god
Speaker 15: we don't have an election this year. But if you
Speaker 15: look at South Australia, you look at New South Wales,
Speaker 15: you look at Victoria, we're probably going to go backwards.
Speaker 13: Well, I mean this polling suggests that you are.
Speaker 3: You know, the Liberals are very very backwards as it is,
Speaker 3: and as we just mentioned, pro so Pauline Hanson now
Speaker 3: the most popular political leader in this country. Susan Lee
Speaker 3: sitting at just ten percent favorability.
Speaker 14: What does that tell you, Well, it tells you that
Speaker 14: they're totally stuffed. I mean, the Liberal Party has totally
Speaker 14: misread the community. They have not realized the legitimacy of
Speaker 14: one nation. They've always looked down on them, as has
Speaker 14: every political party, and denigrated and tried to undermine Pauline Hanson.
Speaker 14: And meanwhile they've been betraying and let's face it, in
Speaker 14: any relationship, trust and betrayal are keywords, and Conservative voters
Speaker 14: have been betrayed and have no trust in the Liberal
Speaker 14: Party anymore or the coalition. Frankly, it's a circus. They
Speaker 14: have not focused on what is going wrong with this country,
Speaker 14: the fact that we have the worst government since Whitlam
Speaker 14: in control and they are stuffing this country. They should
Speaker 14: be all in the dock for murdering this country. The
Speaker 14: sign concerned, So I mean to have absolute inertia. They're
Speaker 14: so busy creating a rabble amongst themselves. It's just appalling
Speaker 14: and a betrayal of every conservative voter. And they deserve
Speaker 14: what they're getting.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 14: Frankly, most people I know they've been traditional liberal voters
Speaker 14: are now going to one nation.
Speaker 3: I completely agree and look as I said, I honestly
Speaker 3: thought that Andrew Hasey would have been a really good choice.
Speaker 3: So where does this leave Angus Taylor? Now, what would
Speaker 3: be your advice to him?
Speaker 15: Well, I don't think that we've got the next leader
Speaker 15: of the Liberal Party, the next Liberal Prime ministers in
Speaker 15: the party room at the moment.
Speaker 16: I think we've got to.
Speaker 15: The position where we can expect to be out of
Speaker 15: government for so long that there will be a generation change.
Speaker 15: There is a lot of criticism of Angus Taylor have
Speaker 15: not being able to get control of an economic agenda.
Speaker 15: It led up to the last election, which is one
Speaker 15: of the reasons why we faulted at the inn. And
Speaker 15: I think that he has to wear that and he
Speaker 15: has to explain to people why there was no economic
Speaker 15: narrative on the conservative side, on the Liberal Party side,
Speaker 15: when the polls always suggest that that's our strongest that's
Speaker 15: our space. Defense and economy is our space, and we
Speaker 15: just didn't have it. So I think, I mean, I
Speaker 15: hate seeing a change of leadership for the sake of
Speaker 15: changing of a leader, because we've done that in state
Speaker 15: politics enough to realize that it doesn't work. In fact,
Speaker 15: it fails more often than it works, and yes, Bob
Speaker 15: Hawk did it, but I'm sorry to say, Angus Taylor
Speaker 15: ain't no Bob, he ain't.
Speaker 14: Thirty five percent of the people in that pole don't
Speaker 14: even know who Angus's salary is. That tells you everything.
Speaker 15: And he's been in long enough that they should and
Speaker 15: he's had positions where they should know.
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, is it a case of waiting for
Speaker 13: Josh Fridenberg.
Speaker 14: Yes, well, if he's going to get his act together,
Speaker 14: I think it would be great if he does. I
Speaker 14: always thought Josh was a little bit woke, but he's
Speaker 14: been so impressive.
Speaker 16: I have been extrame.
Speaker 14: Yeah he has, so I think that he would really
Speaker 14: garner a huge vote if you come in. But it's
Speaker 14: not going to happen, as David said quite a while.
Speaker 14: And meanwhile, Colleen Hanson's party is going to just brain it.
Speaker 16: But it's a good point you make that, DENI. I mean,
Speaker 16: we do have the talent.
Speaker 15: We've got my Bed, you know, we've got Nicole Flint,
Speaker 15: We've got we've got done.
Speaker 16: Andrew Hasty, We've got Josh Friedenberg.
Speaker 15: There are people there, but unfortunately there is there is
Speaker 15: a there is a vacuum of leadership in the liberpoty
Speaker 15: to make tough decisions at a time when tough decisions
Speaker 15: have to be made.
Speaker 13: Well, stay in the never never, you know, that's the problems.
Speaker 13: Stay in the never never.
Speaker 3: And this one nation light label, it's one nation is working,
Speaker 3: okling is anything to go by. It is no longer
Speaker 3: an insult to say one nation light. So you know,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe have a think about that. Let's talk about
Speaker 3: the sports minister Anika Wells. She's now avoiding major events
Speaker 3: after you remember that controversy where she spent one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars of your money on New York flights, a
Speaker 3: Paris troops, red Bow holidays, meals, concerts, events, limousine she
Speaker 3: took her husband. But now she's not going anywhere prou
Speaker 3: She's skipped or major sporting of including the Ashes and
Speaker 3: the Australian Open, even though actually in her portfolio she's
Speaker 3: required to attend.
Speaker 13: Me she's doing the right thing, holding.
Speaker 14: Back well I understand, right, she doesn't want to be booed. Probably,
Speaker 14: let's face it, what I mean, it is pathetic that
Speaker 14: they're in that situation. I mean, she's indulged herself at
Speaker 14: the taxpayer's trough and she was caught red handed. No
Speaker 14: wonder she's embarrassed, but she should be at those events.
Speaker 14: She doesn't need to take a husband and half half
Speaker 14: the relatives around the Christmas table down to wherever she's going.
Speaker 14: She just needs to represent the taxpayer and be in
Speaker 14: her portfolio. But she's negligent and not going. But you know,
Speaker 14: it's like people are going to be looking and seeing
Speaker 14: who she's going with, what she's spending, where, how many
Speaker 14: meals she's had.
Speaker 2: It's a pr disaster. It is totally exactly she should
Speaker 2: have been sat I reckon.
Speaker 3: Well exactly and now the US happen. I want to
Speaker 3: show you this shocking footage in Melbourne.
Speaker 13: Have a look at this.
Speaker 3: Two men were kicked out of a gentleman's club at
Speaker 3: the weekend. One then threw chair which was meant to
Speaker 3: hit a security guard. Instead he knocked out his own mate.
Speaker 3: We should have that vision coming up on the screen shortly.
Speaker 3: Look look, David, I think it was here we go.
Speaker 3: Here it is, so the security guards think it's hilarious
Speaker 3: and look here we go this is it knocks his.
Speaker 13: Mate out that was actually meant for a security guard.
Speaker 3: Now the guard thinks it's hilarious and I can see
Speaker 3: the humor almost the irony in this.
Speaker 2: But what does it say about violence in Melbourne?
Speaker 16: But this is more of the same.
Speaker 15: I mean, if it's not drunken LUTs on the streets,
Speaker 15: Sudanese gangs, it's the criminal underworld. It's those that have
Speaker 15: been able to build up drug empires and take out
Speaker 15: their own level of justice.
Speaker 16: And it scares me.
Speaker 15: I mean, I'm scared about family and friends that go
Speaker 15: to Melbourne.
Speaker 16: I'm scared about people that I know that live in Melbourne.
Speaker 15: And the obvious question is what's next and who's next?
Speaker 14: J just Cinder Allen should have some of those bins
Speaker 14: that take chairs now obviously the weapon of choice.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, forget Michi's go over, it's chairs, our chairs
Speaker 3: at the ultimate weapon, where it's just it is pro
Speaker 3: McSwain David Elliott.
Speaker 13: Really great discussion.
Speaker 2: Thank you to both of you for directors and the show.
Speaker 13: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Stay with us.
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, a Jewish woman injured in
Speaker 3: the Bondai massacre was given an Anglo name during her
Speaker 3: stay at a Sydney hospital.
Speaker 13: I'll catch up with Deborah.
Speaker 3: Bell from the Australian Zionist Healthcare Alliance. You won't want
Speaker 3: to miss what she has to say about what Jewish
Speaker 3: patients are going through.
Speaker 13: That's next.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Thanks to terrific reporting by Andrew Clonel at Sky News.
Speaker 3: This week, it's been revealed a Jewish woman, Rosalie Schickberg,
Speaker 3: who was injured in the Bondai massacre, was taken to
Speaker 3: Liverpool Hospital in Sydney and told she was to have
Speaker 3: an Anglo name Karen Jones during her stay.
Speaker 2: It was even printed on her medication. Now.
Speaker 3: She was told that it was to keep the media
Speaker 3: away and to protect her privacy, but she says she
Speaker 3: doesn't believe it.
Speaker 17: In my opinion, there was afraid of stuff, not the medium.
Speaker 3: And can you blame her remember when two nurses at
Speaker 3: nearby Bankstown Hospital allegedly threatened to kill Jewish patients. Joining
Speaker 3: me now is co founder and president of Australian Zionist
Speaker 3: Healthcare Alliance.
Speaker 2: Deborah Bell. Deborah, it's really good to have.
Speaker 3: You on the show this evening. Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 3: What do you think has gone on here?
Speaker 18: Thank you for having me. What appears to have happened
Speaker 18: here is that a decision was made to change a
Speaker 18: Jewish patient's name because her identity was perceived as a
Speaker 18: safety risk. And I accept that frontline staff were likely
Speaker 18: acting under pressure and with protective intent. However, I would
Speaker 18: argue that the real issue here is systemic because after
Speaker 18: the alleged Bank Town's nurses incident, we still don't know
Speaker 18: what investigations, if any, the New South Wales government carried
Speaker 18: out to determine whether the problem was limited to just
Speaker 18: those nurses or whether the problem is more widespread. And
Speaker 18: if Jewish identity is being treated as a risk factor
Speaker 18: in a public hospital, that requires full transparency and investigation
Speaker 18: by Minister around Park and that's unacceptable for Jewish Australians
Speaker 18: and for the wider Australian community.
Speaker 3: Well absolutely, I mean they're not safe in hospitals, They're
Speaker 3: not safe in schools, not safe at Bondi Beach or
Speaker 3: beaches in general, you know, hospitals that are meant to
Speaker 3: be a place where people should feel most safe.
Speaker 2: So I completely agree with your concerns.
Speaker 3: It's interesting though, I was listening to the Health Minister
Speaker 3: Mark Butler on Sky News this morning.
Speaker 2: He was asked about it, and this was his response.
Speaker 19: Okay, that's why late last year I asked all health
Speaker 19: ministers to issue a directive to the professional regulator of
Speaker 19: doctors and nurses and other health professionals really to lift
Speaker 19: their game in overseeing the healthcare system and making sure
Speaker 19: that Jewish Australians felt that they could get safe, high
Speaker 19: quality healthcare without any sense of discrimination.
Speaker 1: In the system.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that.
Speaker 3: Have hospitals lifted their game when it comes to the
Speaker 3: safety of Jewish patients?
Speaker 18: If they have, it's clearly not enough. He talks about
Speaker 18: a directive being issued to AARPRA, who's the regulatory body.
Speaker 18: We haven't seen this play out in practice. Jewish doctors
Speaker 18: continue to be on the receiving end of vexatious complaints
Speaker 18: and Jewish staff and patients are telling us that they
Speaker 18: feel anxious and vulnerable after Bankstown or the alleged incident.
Speaker 18: There should have been a system wide review, not just
Speaker 18: action against the individuals. And without clear protocols, strong leadership
Speaker 18: and zero tolerance for anti Semitism and anti Zionism, which
Speaker 18: is just the latest iteration of this ancient hatred, the
Speaker 18: problem's not going to be solved. The question needs to
Speaker 18: be asked if this patient was perceived to be under threat.
Speaker 18: Where was that threat coming from? And they're saying it
Speaker 18: was due to media, But they speakes the question that
Speaker 18: why were the names of the other patients in the
Speaker 18: hospitals and other areas of Sydney. Why weren't their names change?
Speaker 18: Surely they were facing the same threat if it was
Speaker 18: external from media, and if they're not, then where was
Speaker 18: this threat coming from?
Speaker 3: Well, it's a very good question, and I'll look. I
Speaker 3: was a former reporter myself. I can tell you as
Speaker 3: a reporter it's very very easy to find out where
Speaker 3: patients are staying. So this whole argument of art was
Speaker 3: to keep patients safe from the media. I don't buy it.
Speaker 3: I think it's an absolute load of nonsense. And I
Speaker 3: can say that with absolute certainty given my own background.
Speaker 2: Before we let you go. What are Jewish patients telling
Speaker 2: you right now?
Speaker 18: They're telling us they feel vulnerable, They're fearful. I'm seeing
Speaker 18: it in my day to day practice. Even when patients
Speaker 18: are coming and they're seeing Jewish doctors and being treated
Speaker 18: by Jewish doctors such as myself, I'm seeing patients who
Speaker 18: are obviously to me, either with Jewish names or Israeli
Speaker 18: patients with Israeli names and Israeli accents, and when you
Speaker 18: look at their notes, they've concealed their identity. They're not
Speaker 18: wearing religious symbols in the hospital, they're not declaring their
Speaker 18: religion on their files. People are telling us that they're
Speaker 18: scared to declare their religion and this is clearly unacceptable.
Speaker 18: Hospitals need to be a safe, a political space for
Speaker 18: all patients. You know, the last thing you need is
Speaker 18: when you're sick and you're vulnerable, is to be worrying
Speaker 18: about whether you're going to be treated differently or mistreated
Speaker 18: because of who you are.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, as I said, I mean, it's extraordinary the place,
Speaker 3: yet that's meant to keep you safe, Jewish patients are
Speaker 3: fearing for their own lives. Debra Bell, it's great to
Speaker 3: catch up with you. We'll have you on again. Thanks again,
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Denika coming up after the break,
Speaker 3: Jim Chalmers told us he'd slay the inflation dragon, yet
Speaker 3: an interest rate hike is all but guaranteed. On Tuesday,
Speaker 3: economists Leaf Van Nonslin will tell us what it means
Speaker 3: for your hip pocket when the federal budget is handed down.
Speaker 3: Plus Live to London as it's revealed. Andrew mount Batten
Speaker 3: Windsor invited Jeffrey Epstein to Buckingham Palace as new photos
Speaker 3: are released. GB News host Emily Kaba is next.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Well, it looks like the interest rate hike is all
Speaker 3: but guaranteed. On Tuesday, after inflation rose to three point
Speaker 3: eight percent in the last twelve months to December, stronger
Speaker 3: than expected, while the consumer price index also rose to
Speaker 3: three point four percent in November. But your recall, of course,
Speaker 3: on multiple times Jim Chalmers maintains that.
Speaker 2: He slayed the inflation dragon. What a load of nonsense.
Speaker 3: I'm now joined by Macro Business Chief economist Leith van Nonslin. Leif,
Speaker 3: nice to see you, Thanks for joining me. What do
Speaker 3: you put this down to?
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, look that there's the main fact is actually
Speaker 8: excessive government spending. So one of the reasons why Australia's
Speaker 8: inflation is so high is because public demand, which is
Speaker 8: basically government spending, is at a near record high share
Speaker 8: of GDP. It's actually the highest in Australi's history outside
Speaker 8: of the pandemic, and most of the economic growth and
Speaker 8: job growth over the past three years has been driven
Speaker 8: by governments, so that the fact of the matter is
Speaker 8: we've got governments both state and federal, must add the
Speaker 8: running expansory budgets into an economy that's experiencing severe supply
Speaker 8: constraints and as a result, that's helping to drive up inflation.
Speaker 16: It's pretty simple.
Speaker 2: Well, what's this now mean for the federal budget.
Speaker 3: It's already blown out by whopping fifty seven billion dollars
Speaker 3: and it's been filled, as you just said, there by
Speaker 3: excessive spending, though the treasurer he won't admit to it.
Speaker 2: This is what he said earlier in the week.
Speaker 20: The forecasts are broadly in line with what we saw
Speaker 20: in the twenty twenty five pre election outlook, to the
Speaker 20: extent that there is a small deterioration that is largely
Speaker 20: explained by receipts, not by spending.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if the budget is in worse position
Speaker 3: than initially thought, what's that going to mean for the
Speaker 3: hip pocket.
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, it's obviously not great. So that's a fifty
Speaker 8: seven billion dollar deterioration. Now, now that was calculated by
Speaker 8: Shadow treasure Teed O'Brien. So you said on Facebook you think, oh,
Speaker 8: that's a bias assessment, but actually budget expert Chris interested
Speaker 8: and verified those figures, and he believes that two thirds
Speaker 8: of the blowout is due to highest.
Speaker 16: Spending by the government.
Speaker 8: And again, this is highest spending into an economy that's
Speaker 8: already overheating or is suffering from supply constraints, and that's
Speaker 8: actually pushing up inflation. And this wasn't disclosed in the
Speaker 8: pre legend pre election fiscal outlook because it was most
Speaker 8: of this spending comes after the forward estimates period, so
Speaker 8: they managed to sort of kick the can down the
Speaker 8: road and.
Speaker 1: Hide it from public view. But it has come out now.
Speaker 8: And the fact of the matter is governments need to
Speaker 8: help the RBA out because the RBA has got one
Speaker 8: blunt tool, which is interest rates to try and manage inflation, unemployment, etc.
Speaker 8: When really it is the federal and state governments who
Speaker 8: are through their excessive spending which are actually driving up inflation,
Speaker 8: and they need to be held account accountable for this,
Speaker 8: not the Reserve Bank. The reserve banks simply got one
Speaker 8: tool and it's doing its job. But our governments need
Speaker 8: to do their job and help them out.
Speaker 3: Absolutely pulled the weight because again it's every day Aussies
Speaker 3: who were continuing to suffer.
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you about the public service.
Speaker 3: I was flawed to find out reading one of your
Speaker 3: articles that has ballooned to twenty four percent. That's more
Speaker 3: than two hundred and thirteen thousand staff since Labor was elected.
Speaker 3: I find this extraordinary leaf because you recall late last
Speaker 3: year Labour said, oh, we're going to go on this
Speaker 3: austerity drive. You know, hundreds, if not thousands of jobs
Speaker 3: in the public service have to go.
Speaker 2: This was a very Doge style policy.
Speaker 3: Literbool party took it to the last election, of course,
Speaker 3: but then Labour came out and said no, no, actually,
Speaker 3: no cuts.
Speaker 2: To the public service.
Speaker 3: And now look at this, I mean, how can they
Speaker 3: justify figures like this?
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I'd also argue that with the rise in
Speaker 8: the public servants both at the state and federal level,
Speaker 8: so to be fair, the state governments have also had
Speaker 8: a balloon in public servants. But this twenty four percent
Speaker 8: increase is obviously one of the contributors to this inflation
Speaker 8: problem we've got. And I'd argue that we're actually getting
Speaker 8: worse outcomes in police across the board with these acceleration
Speaker 8: in public service servants. So the Independent Parliamentary Budget offers
Speaker 8: their costings actually suggest that government spending is going to
Speaker 8: rise by twelve billion over the next four years if
Speaker 8: the public servant numbers the federal level are kept the
Speaker 8: current level of two hundred and thirteen thousand. That's because
Speaker 8: the federal labor has agreed to eleven point two percent
Speaker 8: pay rises over three years. So if they don't cut
Speaker 8: the numbers, we're going to have another twelve billion dollar
Speaker 8: deterioration in the budget based.
Speaker 1: On these numbers.
Speaker 8: It's just not sustainable and we need we basically need
Speaker 8: our governments to get out of the way of the
Speaker 8: private sector because they are crowding them out with this spending.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well clearly, and you know they do need to
Speaker 3: make some cuts. As I said, the Libs took it
Speaker 3: to the election and it was scared by labor. No, no,
Speaker 3: that's a very US style. Well, I mean the proofs
Speaker 3: in the putting, isn't it leak ban Onslom. We've got
Speaker 3: to leave it there. Good to have you on, Thanks
Speaker 3: so much for joining me, really appreciate it. Well, let's
Speaker 3: go over to the UK now, because things are going
Speaker 3: from bad to worse for the man formerly known as
Speaker 3: Prince Andrew. The US Department has released more of the
Speaker 3: Epstein files, with one showing alleged emails between Andrew Mountbatten
Speaker 3: Windsor and the pedophile talking about a quote beautiful girl.
Speaker 3: And then there are these disturbing photos which appear to
Speaker 3: show Andrew Mountbatten Windsor on all fours leaning over a female.
Speaker 3: Joining us now from London is gb News host Emily Carver. Emily,
Speaker 3: welcome back to the program. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: your time.
Speaker 2: It's really great to see you.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, I think those photos are extremely disturbing,
Speaker 3: but also the fact that Andrew invited Jeffrey Epstein to
Speaker 3: Buckingham Palace that the royal family must be mortified.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 17: It's absolutely a shocking yet another string of damaging revelations
Speaker 17: for the royal family from these Epstein files. It's not
Speaker 17: just Andrew notes Sir Richard Branson, it's leeber Lord Mandelsson,
Speaker 17: who is unbelievably our ambassador to the United States thanks
Speaker 17: to Kirs Starmer. But yes, the world has now seen
Speaker 17: these photographs of Andrew mount button Windsor, no longer Prince
Speaker 17: of Call, on all fours, looming over an unidentified woman. Now,
Speaker 17: there is no nudity involved by the looks of things.
Speaker 17: But what on earth was a member of our royal
Speaker 17: family doing posing for ridiculous photos with what looks like
Speaker 17: a young woman playing dead on the floor. We know
Speaker 17: that Andrew, as you say, invited this pedophile to an
Speaker 17: intimate dinner at Buckingham Palace only a month, only a
Speaker 17: month after Epstein was released from house arrest after he'd
Speaker 17: spent time in prison for his convictions. As you say,
Speaker 17: also a beautiful twenty six year old Russian woman. This
Speaker 17: was two years after Epstein was convicted. So Andrew at
Speaker 17: the time, when he's been called out on this, says, oh, no,
Speaker 17: we weren't in communication. Weren't in communication. They were in
Speaker 17: very regular communication and very friendly a communication by the
Speaker 17: sounds of this, Because none of this seems to bother
Speaker 17: Andrew himself, the arrogant man that we all know. He
Speaker 17: was seen out riding yesterday, photographed laughing and smiling as
Speaker 17: if nothing was going on. He's still not moved out
Speaker 17: of his thirty room Royal Volie on the Windsor estate
Speaker 17: because his new home is being renovated, so he couldn't
Speaker 17: possibly find somewhere else to live. But I'm sure King
Speaker 17: Charles is at least happy. He must feel at least
Speaker 17: vindicated that he did strip Andrew of all his royal titles.
Speaker 17: But perhaps it should have come a little sooner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's extraordinary.
Speaker 3: And I will point out that Branson denies any involvement
Speaker 3: and has said that Epstein's actions are a borrent. But
Speaker 3: I mean those photos good, good graf. Anyway, I'm sure
Speaker 3: more to come on this out. Look, let's talk about
Speaker 3: the UK Prime Minister, Kiir Starmer. He's come up with
Speaker 3: what I would call a very novel way to stop
Speaker 3: migrants from crossing the Channel Emily. He's gone and asked
Speaker 3: China for help, and as part of the deal between
Speaker 3: kios Stamer and Shujingping, the two countries will share intelligence.
Speaker 2: Can you believe it? A great idea sharing intelligence with China.
Speaker 17: I mean, it's absolutely remarkable. You couldn't make it up.
Speaker 17: This man has absolutely no idea what he's doing. I'm
Speaker 17: talking about the Prime minister, of course. Apparently this is
Speaker 17: his great idea to stop a llegal migration. So ra
Speaker 17: than police our own borders, which we've been begging him
Speaker 17: to do, you'd think was rather a matter of national securities.
Speaker 17: Actually asking the Chinese, a hostile state who spy on
Speaker 17: us incessantly to help him out a bit. They must
Speaker 17: be absolutely laughing at us at this point. Apparently China
Speaker 17: is now going to help prevent engines, which are predominantly
Speaker 17: made in China, from getting into the hands of criminals,
Speaker 17: of getting into the hands of people smugglers. But what
Speaker 17: are they seriously going to do? Tanika you know in
Speaker 17: scroll made in China, not for use in the English
Speaker 17: channel on the side. I mean, could this be more
Speaker 17: of a gimmick if he tried. What we need to
Speaker 17: do in this country is leave the European Court of
Speaker 17: Human Rights so illegal migrants can be swiftly deported.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 17: Why on earth are we trusting China to help us
Speaker 17: out on this one?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Literally the worst possible country to help you out when
Speaker 3: it comes to intelligence.
Speaker 2: It's just very bizarre. Look, let's talk.
Speaker 3: About Sharon Osborne. I was interested to raid this this morning.
Speaker 3: She's tased that she might run for Birmingham City Council
Speaker 3: after learning that a convicted terrorists was standing for a
Speaker 3: saint share he'd but was found guilty of conspiring to
Speaker 3: attack the British consulate in Yemen. This is back in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine and now apparently he wants to be
Speaker 3: a British councilor the irony. But Emily, look, let's forget
Speaker 3: Sharon for a minute here. That the more serious issue
Speaker 3: in my view is that a convicted terrorist is even
Speaker 3: allowed to run in the first place.
Speaker 2: How is that possible?
Speaker 17: I mean, it's absolutely outrageous, absolutely outrageous. I can't actually
Speaker 17: believe it. And there are people in this country who
Speaker 17: are actually defending his right to run for election in
Speaker 17: this country. It's absolutely absurd. But the problem is if
Speaker 17: he is allowed to go ahead, he may well win.
Speaker 17: I mean, this is a seat that is particularly is
Speaker 17: about well, it is very much majority Muslim. They wouldn't
Speaker 17: possibly go for someone like Sharon Osborne. But I'd love
Speaker 17: to see her run. Of course, she's got links to Birmingham.
Speaker 17: Her late husband of course from there, grew up there,
Speaker 17: did all his music from there. But this guy, he's
Speaker 17: now running on a Progaza ticket, of course. But it's
Speaker 17: just so depressing, isn't it. Britain twenty twenty six, We've
Speaker 17: got convicted Islamist terrorists trying to run for office and
Speaker 17: he'll probably get away with it and continue to do
Speaker 17: it and people will actually vote for him. I mean,
Speaker 17: it is a shocking state of affairs. It's got to
Speaker 17: be stopped. And I hope it is.
Speaker 3: A han And I've got to say I like Sharon.
Speaker 3: She always speaks her mind. She's never shies away from
Speaker 3: a debate. So if she's serious about this, I say
Speaker 3: good on her. Emily Carver, nice to see you again.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me on the show.
Speaker 3: Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you well.
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, my done of the week.
Speaker 3: He's got a cop at this time. Find out next.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Now it is time for Danika's dud of the Week,
Speaker 3: which this week goes to Roger Waters of the band
Speaker 3: Pink Floyd for his latest public hallucination now Here.
Speaker 2: He was a few weeks ago backing.
Speaker 3: The oppressive Iranian regime, which has adopted a shoot to
Speaker 3: kill policy on protesters fighting for their freedoms.
Speaker 16: Have a look.
Speaker 4: So, just to be clear, you support the protesters and
Speaker 4: you support the regime, yes, of course, what look?
Speaker 3: It really seems as though the rock and roll lifestyle,
Speaker 3: maybe of the seventies and eighties, has taken its toll
Speaker 3: on Roger because he now claims, oh, I misspoke.
Speaker 6: He says, I misspoke. I apologize. I said I support
Speaker 6: the regime. What I support is the country of Iran.
Speaker 6: Do I like the Ayatola whatever his name is. No,
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a simple and easy mistake to make right.
Speaker 3: He meant the country he met the country. Look, Roger
Speaker 3: has lost his marbles. Earth to Roger.
Speaker 1: Anybody there.
Speaker 2: Is there anybody in there? Roger I don't know.
Speaker 3: I do, though, think it is fair to diagnose him
Speaker 3: as comfortably dumb.
Speaker 2: So there you have it.
Speaker 3: Roger Waters takes out week two. Well that is all
Speaker 3: from me tonight. Thank you so much for your company.
Speaker 3: I will be back at eight pm on Friday night
Speaker 3: for opinionated, but stay with us. Coming up right now
Speaker 3: is the McPherson Angle, hosted by my good friend James McPherson.
Speaker 2: Good Night,