WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 1 February

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News Australia. This is de Nika de Georgio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Pauline Hansen is now the most popular politician in the

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<v Speaker 3>country as one nation's primary vote surges according to a

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<v Speaker 3>new poll that's just dropped. I'll get Barnaby Joyce's reaction. Shortly,

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Chalmers told us he'd slayed the inflation dragon, yet

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<v Speaker 3>an interest rate hike is all but guaranteed on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Economist Leith van Nsulin has crunched the numbers. He'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>us what it means for your hip pocket when the

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<v Speaker 3>federal budget is handed down and it goes from bad

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<v Speaker 3>to worse.

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<v Speaker 2>For Andrew mount Batton Windsor as.

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<v Speaker 3>New photos are released of him on all fours over

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<v Speaker 3>a female, I'll go live to London and catch up

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<v Speaker 3>with gb News host Emily Carver. But first tonight, Australia

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<v Speaker 3>welcomed Labour's hand picked race discrimination Commissioner, Giradahan Siveraman into

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<v Speaker 3>this country with welcome arms. He was born in India

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<v Speaker 3>and migrated to Australia as a.

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<v Speaker 2>Child, and wow, what a career he's had.

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<v Speaker 3>From lawyer at Morris Blackburn to being appointed to the

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<v Speaker 3>Human Rights Commission on a salary paid by you to

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<v Speaker 3>the tune of four hundred thousand dollars a year. This

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<v Speaker 3>country has given him a lot. So how does the

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<v Speaker 3>commissioner repay the Australia that welcomed him and has helped

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<v Speaker 3>him flourish and earn a very good living.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, mister SILVERL. Rahman has gone on an SBS.

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast called The Spice to talk about Australia Day and

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<v Speaker 3>Australian values. Now you might be thinking, oh, he's shown

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<v Speaker 3>his pride and love for the country he migrated.

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<v Speaker 2>To for a better life.

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<v Speaker 3>No, his idea of thanking Australia basically involves blaming assies

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<v Speaker 3>for what he describes as an undercurrent of nationalism. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to January twenty six, it becomes so

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<v Speaker 3>difficult because there's this undercurrent of nationalism love it or

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<v Speaker 3>leave it phenomenon where people go, well, unless you're with

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<v Speaker 3>us against us, and so you've just got to on January.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty six, you've got to kiss the flag, love the country,

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise go away.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, god forbid, you want to kiss your flag? How

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<v Speaker 3>dare you stoke that division? So it's loving your country.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently that's a problem. What a real charming way to

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<v Speaker 3>give gratitude to the country. The commissioner came to and

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<v Speaker 3>then he went.

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<v Speaker 4>On the independence for India is such a different thing

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<v Speaker 4>to January twenty six. In Australia, independence from India was

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<v Speaker 4>finally shaking off the yoke of the colonial masters, the British,

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<v Speaker 4>whereas here January twenty sixth six is such a conflicted day.

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<v Speaker 4>And for me, as a migrant from India, I was

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<v Speaker 4>born in India, I came here when I was young.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel very conflicted when I think about January twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you have.

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<v Speaker 3>A problem with what we do in Australia and how

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<v Speaker 3>we celebrate, and you are so pro the country you

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<v Speaker 3>have come from, then why not go back? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the progressive left have been slowly infiltrating and ultimately seeking

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<v Speaker 3>to tear down the values and traditions of the Australia

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<v Speaker 3>that once was, with the ultimate aim of destroying everything

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<v Speaker 3>that British settlers brought to this country.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are the lucky country.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will point out Australia is home to almost

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<v Speaker 3>one million Indian born residents, and I would be curious

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<v Speaker 3>to put those comments by the commissioner to anyone of

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<v Speaker 3>those who love this country.

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<v Speaker 2>But here was the real pearler.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, what are we celebrating. We're all on stolen

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<v Speaker 4>land and we actually need truth telling about the history

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<v Speaker 4>of this land.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all on stolen land.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that sounds to me like we're all culpable of

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<v Speaker 3>something that's morally wrong, because that's what theft is. Right now,

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<v Speaker 3>if he believes this land was stolen, then why has

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<v Speaker 3>he accepted a salary worth.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundreds of thousands of dollars from all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't that make him equally as culpable in what he

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<v Speaker 3>claims we are? And in his final attack on Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>he gave migrants this message.

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<v Speaker 4>If we're going to come together, we should come together

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<v Speaker 4>on a platform of truth and honesty. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>migrants need to have that understanding, that sense of positionality

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<v Speaker 4>where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, this is extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 3>He even went as far as to suggest to the

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday Telegraph that the day had been co opted by

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<v Speaker 3>white supremacists. He says it is a day when colonialization began,

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<v Speaker 3>which led to first peoples being forced off their country

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<v Speaker 3>and onto missions and reserves, genocidal acts, massacres, systemic child

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<v Speaker 3>removal and more. It is, in my view, it is

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<v Speaker 3>not racist to love your country. Let's be very clear,

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<v Speaker 3>it is not racist to be proud of your country.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet for a commissioner who was supposed to be putting

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<v Speaker 3>an end to racism and division, he seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>obsessed with the contrary and apparently Australia Day is not

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<v Speaker 3>the only day the race Discrimination Commissioner.

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<v Speaker 2>Is having a hard time with.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't like public holidays in general, claiming the only

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<v Speaker 3>religious public holidays recognized by law are Christian ones. He

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't like Harmony Day because it is somewhat jarring that

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<v Speaker 3>a day recognizing a massacre born of racism is replaced

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<v Speaker 3>with a day of celebration under the banner of Harmony Day.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't want a migration debate because it serves to

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<v Speaker 3>stoke the already smoldering fires of racism. Apparently, well, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give the commissioner an idea of why we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>what is happening in some sections of our community.

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<v Speaker 5>Towards the end of the times, when the Muslims will

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<v Speaker 5>be fighting the Jews, the trees will speak, the stone

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<v Speaker 5>will speak and they will say, oh Muslim, oh believer,

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<v Speaker 5>there is a YAHOODI behind me, Come and kill him.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's certainly not racist to point out that our social

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<v Speaker 3>cohesion has fractured. He claims councils were built during colonial

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<v Speaker 3>times and banked in during the White Australia policy, saying

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<v Speaker 3>they were not designed to let in people of color.

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<v Speaker 3>They certainly weren't designed for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people,

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<v Speaker 3>which is quite ironic when you think councils have spent

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<v Speaker 3>millions on welcome to country ceremonies, four million a year

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<v Speaker 3>on first Nation ceremonies and protocols alone in just one

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<v Speaker 3>South Australian council. The commissioner was even offended when a

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<v Speaker 3>listener on a radio station said he sounded oker. I

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<v Speaker 3>felt embarrassed, a bit ashamed. Deep down, I knew I

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<v Speaker 3>had developed my strine to fit in. I had to

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<v Speaker 3>let go of my mother tongue Tamil, a language of

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful literature and poetry, so as not to sound different,

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<v Speaker 3>claiming it as a result of institutions and structures that

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<v Speaker 3>divide us. Well, the number one language in this country

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<v Speaker 3>is English, and given the Race Commissioner's prominent role, you'd

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<v Speaker 3>think it would indeed require him to speak the beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>literary and poetry that is English, but it's not something

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<v Speaker 3>that he's even pondered.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you're in the workplace, your muneration's been set, But

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<v Speaker 4>are you culturally safe if you're from a racialized background

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<v Speaker 4>or a First nation's background. Can languages other than English

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<v Speaker 4>be spoken in the workplace? I know of many workplaces

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<v Speaker 4>where people have been penalized for speaking languages other than English.

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh, the Race Discrimination Commissioner is having just such a

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<v Speaker 3>difficult time in Australia and he's only two years into

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<v Speaker 3>his five year term. Is there anything ghirad Haran Sibaman

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<v Speaker 3>likes about Australia, anything at all?

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<v Speaker 4>So firstly, I just want to acknowledge that I'm coming

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<v Speaker 4>to you from the unseated lands of the augur and

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<v Speaker 4>the turable people here in meanjin to glorious, glorious sunny day.

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<v Speaker 4>Pay my respects to elders present, and extend those respects

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<v Speaker 4>to any Aboriginal entys other people that might be listening

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<v Speaker 4>to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>And that tells you everything you need to know about

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<v Speaker 3>where your four hundred thousand dollars is going.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Let me paint a picture of Federal Parliament this

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<v Speaker 2>week for you. Fresh off the back of their split, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Liberals and Nationals won't sit together as one for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time since the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Nationals leader David.

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<v Speaker 3>Little Proud could face a leadership spill tomorrow after NAT's

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<v Speaker 3>MP Colinn Boyce mounted a challenge claiming he was unhappy

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<v Speaker 3>with the way his leader handled the divorce. Yet Boyce

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<v Speaker 3>today admitted he probably doesn't even have the numbers.

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<v Speaker 7>Now the way it stands at the moment. If David

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<v Speaker 7>retains the leadership, which I expect he will, I will

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<v Speaker 7>be comprehensibly defeated. I'm sincerely hoping that somebody else will

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<v Speaker 7>stand up and nominate for leadership other than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's highly unusual admission for someone who has spent

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<v Speaker 3>the past week plotting to topple a leader, But then

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<v Speaker 3>there's a Liberal part leader. Susan Lee is all at sea,

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<v Speaker 3>yet for now it appears she will survive as leader

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<v Speaker 3>of the Opposition for how long who knows. After a

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<v Speaker 3>meeting last week between potential replacements Angus Taylor and Andrew Hasty.

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<v Speaker 3>Hasty then pulled out of any potential leadership challenge. Chief

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<v Speaker 3>political reporter Andrew Clarnell is reporting that Angus Taylor won't

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<v Speaker 3>challenge for the Liberal leadership when the party room meets

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<v Speaker 3>on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Where Susan Lee is not only at odds with Labor,

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<v Speaker 3>but she's at odds with the Nationals and at odds.

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<v Speaker 2>With the right of her party.

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<v Speaker 3>She's set the deadline of February nine for the Nats

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<v Speaker 3>to rejoin the coalition or she will reallocate their shadow

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<v Speaker 3>portfolios to.

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<v Speaker 2>Her Liberal colleagues.

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<v Speaker 3>Little Proud has turned down her offer of peace talks

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of Parliament, and both would be hoping each.

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<v Speaker 2>Other gets rolled.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet Liberal senator and Rusten claims that the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 3>can go to an election alone.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, the certainty is unless you get back in coalition,

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<v Speaker 8>you can't win an election, isn't that.

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<v Speaker 9>The Well, I think you've only got a look at

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<v Speaker 9>history to say that that actually isn't true. But of

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<v Speaker 9>course we are always stronger when we are in coalition,

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<v Speaker 9>and I absolutely agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, to be a to be.

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<v Speaker 8>Think he can win just as a Liberal party, You

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<v Speaker 8>think he can just win as a Liberal party, do.

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<v Speaker 9>You It's happened before, Andrew and I think the one

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<v Speaker 9>thing that we've learned in politics is that you know,

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<v Speaker 9>you never say never, that things change very very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, she's dreaming. The party can't go it alone. It

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<v Speaker 3>needs the Nationals to form government. And as you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Albanezi is having the time of his life.

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<v Speaker 10>Well they're shambles and they're focused on each other and

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<v Speaker 10>their hatred of each other. We're focused on the Australian

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<v Speaker 10>people and their needs and the national interest. You can't

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<v Speaker 10>fight for Australians if you're obsessed by fighting yourselves, and

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<v Speaker 10>that is what the former coalition have become.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I missed anything?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's a complete circus And have a look

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<v Speaker 3>at this breaking news tonight. New polling from Redbridge and

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<v Speaker 3>Accent in the Financial Review tells the full story. One

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<v Speaker 3>nation's primary vote is sitting at twenty six percent, up

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<v Speaker 3>nine percent. Have a look at the coalitions nineteen percent.

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<v Speaker 3>That's down seven Pauline Hansen is now the most popular

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<v Speaker 3>politician in the country with thirty eight percent favorable rating,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is compared to the Prime Minister on thirty

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<v Speaker 3>four percent. Susan Lee ten percent behind both Andrew Hasty

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<v Speaker 3>and Angus Taylor. Seriously, Australia deserves better than this. Where

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<v Speaker 3>is the alternative government that conservative voters across this country

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<v Speaker 3>are crying out for?

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<v Speaker 2>Where is it?

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<v Speaker 3>No wonder One Nation is now more popular than the

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<v Speaker 3>former coalition, And the longer this divorce goes on and

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<v Speaker 3>leadership tensions are dragged out, the more votes go to

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<v Speaker 3>Pauline Hanson's party.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because the.

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<v Speaker 3>Liberals have totally straight away from their conservative values.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was always likely to be the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Hasty would not get the numbers as the bedwetting

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<v Speaker 3>moderates throw the one nation light label around, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a shame. I think Andrew Hasty has been

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<v Speaker 3>very strong on immigration and energy policy, albeit it was

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<v Speaker 3>disappointing to see him capitulate over that hate speech legislation,

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<v Speaker 3>but he has never been one to shy away from

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<v Speaker 3>his views and that is what the party needs now.

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<v Speaker 3>Late on Friday, Angus Taylor posted on social media that

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<v Speaker 3>he shares those values with Hasty, saying he is a

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<v Speaker 3>patriot committed to tackling the big problems our country faces

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<v Speaker 3>and I share many of his views on reducing immigration,

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<v Speaker 3>restoring cheap energy, reviving Australian industry and rebuilding national pride.

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<v Speaker 3>So if Angus Taylor is the man who will mount

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<v Speaker 3>a challenge, then surely, surely he cannot waste any more

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<v Speaker 3>time because the polls are diabolical for Susan Lee. But

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<v Speaker 3>already the sharks are coming for Taylor.

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<v Speaker 11>Of course, the convention is if one does not support

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<v Speaker 11>the leader, they step aside. Angus hasn't done that, so

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<v Speaker 11>my running assumption is he continues to support Susan Lee

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<v Speaker 11>in her leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>In the end, the Liberal Party can change leaders.

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<v Speaker 3>But unless it has strong, cut through policies that are

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<v Speaker 3>not labor light and backed up by a fearless leader

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<v Speaker 3>who is willing to take a stand on issues like immigration,

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<v Speaker 3>like who we are bringing into this country, our social cohesion, energy,

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<v Speaker 3>putting our values first, then the party will remain in

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<v Speaker 3>the wilderness for a long time to come. The focus

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<v Speaker 3>this week should be on inflation. The focus should be

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<v Speaker 3>on the fact power prices are set to surge more

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<v Speaker 3>than twenty percent this year as Labour's energy bills subsidies end.

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<v Speaker 3>The band Aid was always going to be just that

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<v Speaker 3>a band Aid. The focus should be on Anthony Albaneze's

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<v Speaker 3>disastrous summer.

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<v Speaker 2>In the wake of Bondai.

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<v Speaker 3>The focus should be on cost of living, and yet

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<v Speaker 3>the focus is on coalition disunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Joinning me now is One Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>MP Barnaby, Joyce Barnaby, it's great to get you on

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for joining me.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to ask you about the coalition chaos

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<v Speaker 3>in a moment, but I've got to ask you about

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<v Speaker 3>that polling that's just dropped in the Financial Review. A

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<v Speaker 3>poll done by Redbridge an accent has revealed that Pauline Hanson,

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<v Speaker 3>your leader, is now the most popular political leader in

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<v Speaker 3>the country.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your response to that.

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<v Speaker 12>That's because she's the most authentic, and that's because people

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<v Speaker 12>understand that she's lived life where she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Been in small business.

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<v Speaker 12>That's because they understand we're dealing with a person who's

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<v Speaker 12>so tough. I mean, this lady's been in jail and

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<v Speaker 12>she came out and basically broke bread with the people

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<v Speaker 12>who tried to put her in jail. Well did put

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<v Speaker 12>her in People understand that what Pauline has said in

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<v Speaker 12>the past and she's ridiculed for, has now come out

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<v Speaker 12>to be the truth and people want Australia to be strong,

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<v Speaker 12>they want it to be unified. They want strength, clarity, unity,

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<v Speaker 12>and they see Pauline in one Nation delivering that and

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<v Speaker 12>you know, of course, and it goes out saying that

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<v Speaker 12>the Coalition it's so sad, but it's it's just disintegrated

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<v Speaker 12>into a rubble. What we've seen, like what's going to happen, Danika,

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<v Speaker 12>what's going to happen when they actually have to go

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<v Speaker 12>to the question time where they all sit. When they

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<v Speaker 12>go down there, they realize that if you're not a minister,

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<v Speaker 12>you can't be in a shadow minister's office, if you're

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<v Speaker 12>not a shadow ministry, you've got to go out.

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<v Speaker 1>The staff are sacked.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, if Colin Boys leaves, the cross Bench will

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<v Speaker 12>be bigger than the National Party. And that this is

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<v Speaker 12>this they've just they've just signed off in a week

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<v Speaker 12>where we are going to have interest rates put up.

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<v Speaker 12>I imagine the Reserve Bank will bump them up. Cost

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<v Speaker 12>of living will be a disaster for people. Angie price

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<v Speaker 12>is going up by twenty five percent by first July.

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<v Speaker 12>That's from them, that's from the government and people are

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<v Speaker 12>at their hurting. Danika and I saw it the other

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<v Speaker 12>day at a coffee shop four thousand dollars a quarter

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<v Speaker 12>for his power bill, As he said to me, how

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<v Speaker 12>many coffees do you think I have to sell to

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<v Speaker 12>get four thousand dollars just to pay the power butcher

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<v Speaker 12>shop down the road also considering closing down. This is

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<v Speaker 12>happening in Australia right now. All our major industry is

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<v Speaker 12>going and we've got the Chinese stooge around the joint

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<v Speaker 12>sizing this up, and people are really angry. They just

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<v Speaker 12>don't feel that we're focused on the main game. But

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<v Speaker 12>one nation is focused on the main game, and we're

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<v Speaker 12>incredibly humbled. We've got a massive task in front of us,

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<v Speaker 12>and we know that vote is an indicator, not a vote.

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<v Speaker 12>But we'll continue to do the best job we can

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<v Speaker 12>to get the trust of the Israil people and we

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<v Speaker 12>back it up on people who've been in business like

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<v Speaker 12>my off and Pauline.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to get back to the coalition and

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<v Speaker 3>split in a minute, but I just want to bring

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<v Speaker 3>up that polling again because if you have a look

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<v Speaker 3>at at Barnaby, Pauline and yourself are way more favorable.

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<v Speaker 2>To voters than any of the Liberals.

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<v Speaker 3>You're currently sitting, as we can see on the screen there,

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<v Speaker 3>you're sitting at twenty three percent, Pauline Hanson at thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Arberzi at thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Four, Susan Lee a mere ten percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Also your former leader David Little Proud, he's on thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that tell you?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, speak as I say, Reebs the Locketter, it speaks

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<v Speaker 12>for itself. I think there's been an epiphany in Australia

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<v Speaker 12>and people feel now they have a license to basically say,

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<v Speaker 12>in the more comfortable circumstances of dinner with their friends

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<v Speaker 12>that yeah, I vote for one nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a one nation voter.

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<v Speaker 12>And the more people are saying that to one another,

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<v Speaker 12>they're saying, actually, yeah, actually I.

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<v Speaker 1>Am now as well. And I see that. Whether it's the.

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<v Speaker 12>Pensioners I saw on the road today over there over

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<v Speaker 12>near Dorigo, whether it's Hippi's playing at a band at

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<v Speaker 12>an RSL club he's turned up for lunch basically saying hey,

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<v Speaker 12>we're voting one nation, and business people, senior business people

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<v Speaker 12>in Sydney right at the very top saying that this

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<v Speaker 12>is chaotic and we're not We're going to one nation.

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<v Speaker 12>And I think One Nation has now given people license

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<v Speaker 12>to do precisely that. And that's what happens is it's

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<v Speaker 12>a political marketplace, and us on this side of the

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<v Speaker 12>political fence believe in the market.

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<v Speaker 1>And the market has.

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<v Speaker 12>Now decided that there's a different product on the shelf

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<v Speaker 12>and they're buying it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called One Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you must be pretty happy with the

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<v Speaker 3>move you've made. The coalitions in a mess. As you

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<v Speaker 3>said to where are they going to sit? Where are

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<v Speaker 3>they going to sit? But I have to ask you

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<v Speaker 3>what you were leader of the Nationals ones you managed

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<v Speaker 3>to keep the coalition together in the past when you've

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<v Speaker 3>had your vast differences.

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<v Speaker 2>Is David Little Proud unable to do that? In your view?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the problem?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the second time they've had it.

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<v Speaker 12>So they had a marriage when they after the election,

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<v Speaker 12>then they had a divorce and days then they got

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<v Speaker 12>back and got married again.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're getting divorced. Well they're divorced, but it's.

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<v Speaker 12>All right because they want to get married again before

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<v Speaker 12>the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you went.

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<v Speaker 12>To a dinner party uneek her and that was what

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<v Speaker 12>was sitting across the table from you, would you think

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<v Speaker 12>you had a pretty solid relationship in your that you

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<v Speaker 12>were observing.

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<v Speaker 1>Or would you say, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 12>Going to work out how quickly i can have sweets

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<v Speaker 12>and get the hell out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'd be going with the latter. You'd be saying,

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<v Speaker 2>get me the heck out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is the this is the problem, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I'm wondering where does it start.

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<v Speaker 1>Should have gripped it together?

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, you know, even people, I'll be honest, even

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<v Speaker 12>people who mightn't be my actually my political foes within

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<v Speaker 12>the National Party and other people who you know, I

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<v Speaker 12>get along with. If you've been around for long enough,

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<v Speaker 12>we all had one thing in common. You need not

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<v Speaker 12>break up the coalition it is that is seismic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're gonna run that.

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<v Speaker 12>You're not going to now with us with one nation

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<v Speaker 12>and I'm looking forward to it. You haven't got three

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<v Speaker 12>cornered contests. You got four cornered contests and.

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<v Speaker 1>We're leading, and you know we'll be right in there.

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<v Speaker 12>You decided to do that, that's your problem. And what

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<v Speaker 12>are you going to say when we get this marriage

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<v Speaker 12>back together again?

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<v Speaker 1>It's all going to be fine. This time it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>This time it's different.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, no so, and now he hasn't actually thought

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<v Speaker 12>the only person who's getting more salary, by the way,

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 12>at the moment, would be missed a little proud you're

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<v Speaker 12>getting his forty five percent increment as a minor party leader.

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<v Speaker 12>All the rest, I hope they've got their mortgages worked

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<v Speaker 12>out because they're going to take a big haircut.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's staff these people. I really feel for their

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<v Speaker 1>staff Asack they're gone. And by the.

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<v Speaker 12>Way, I hope you've got your packing boxes out because

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<v Speaker 12>you're out of your offices and out to the boondocks

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<v Speaker 12>with the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just want to ask you about the race

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<v Speaker 3>discrimination Commissioner. But but before I get to that, is

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<v Speaker 3>Colin Boyce going to join one nation?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 12>Look, I leave that up to Colin boys As I've said,

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<v Speaker 12>I don't hawk for I or Pauline.

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<v Speaker 1>Pauline never hawked.

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<v Speaker 12>For business with me, and neither the Sean and neither

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<v Speaker 12>this Malcolm and nas Tyrant.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not hawking for business.

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<v Speaker 12>If people want to approach one nation and discuss joining

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<v Speaker 12>one nation, and I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>There'll be the proper respect given to that process.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've spoken to him, you've spoken to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my advice to everybody is to try and work

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<v Speaker 1>it out. You know.

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<v Speaker 12>My advice is, don't jump ship. Try and work it

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<v Speaker 12>out where you are. Try and work the marriage out

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<v Speaker 12>before you decide to get out of it. And that

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<v Speaker 12>would have been good advice to give to mister little Brown.

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<v Speaker 12>Just quietly, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned the race Discrimination Commissioner at the start of

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<v Speaker 3>the program. He now claims, among other things, that we

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<v Speaker 3>are on stolen land. I think this is staggering comments,

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<v Speaker 3>firstly from an immigrant and a man who has built

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<v Speaker 3>his career in Australia and is now in four hundred

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.240
<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars courtesy of the taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on his comments.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I'm hoping he's going to hand over the titles

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<v Speaker 12>of his house if it's stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 12>He's got to get out of that house, hand the

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<v Speaker 12>titles back, and I've got a lot of Aboriginal friends

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<v Speaker 12>around here. We can We'll take it and I can

0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.880
<v Speaker 12>it out to his mates and Coldale though happily take

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 12>the house off him, and anything else will have to

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:06.840
<v Speaker 12>be stolen as well, so they can hand over the

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<v Speaker 12>car and handover his sleeper and handover everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Else because obviously he is. He has outed himself.

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<v Speaker 12>That he is a thief and he has got to

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<v Speaker 12>be an honorable thief now and hand back all his

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<v Speaker 12>stolen goodies to the to.

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<v Speaker 1>The appropriate people. I've got a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>line to take it off him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're all culpable of theft. If you believe what

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying here, Barnaby, it's sallow up like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well exactly that's where we're heading, Barnabe Joyce. It's great

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<v Speaker 3>to have a chat with you as always. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much for joining me on the show. Really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll joining me now. He's former New South Wales Police

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<v Speaker 3>Minister David Elliott and verb Communications Peru McSwain.

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<v Speaker 13>Hi to both of you, Thanks for joining me. I'll

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<v Speaker 13>tell you what, Barnaby didn't mince his word.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got it.

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<v Speaker 14>We got it.

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<v Speaker 13>Look, we have to obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Start on this polling and I'm very curious to get

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<v Speaker 3>your response to this. David, as a member of the Liberals,

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<v Speaker 3>it's diabolic.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean you look at the primary vote the coalition.

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<v Speaker 3>Is sitting on nineteen now, it's down seven one nation

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six it's added.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine to its primary vote.

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<v Speaker 15>What's your response, Well, it's clearly panic stations and we

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 15>need some serious leadership within the Conservative side of politics.

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 15>Clearly Barnaby and Pauline are going to be calling the

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<v Speaker 15>shots when it comes to the narrative from Conservative Australians

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.159
<v Speaker 15>over the course of the next two years.

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<v Speaker 16>And what Barnaby said was right.

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 15>Pauline's been now being proven as being prophetic and certainly

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 15>she has been authentic and the Liberal Party hasn't. My

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 15>great concern, it was put to me this morning by

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 15>the very senior Liberal is that the Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 16>Have not realized how bad this is.

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<v Speaker 15>They seem to think that this is a period in

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 15>opposition that will pass and then in due course they

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 15>will come back. But the pattern is suggesting that within

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.919
<v Speaker 15>the next three months one nation will have twice the

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 15>vote of the coalition and so we really need those

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 15>party elders to come in now and say right, you're going,

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 15>you're going, you're going recruiting this person, this person, this person,

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<v Speaker 15>and let's come up with the policies.

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 16>Let's come up with a narrative that is going.

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<v Speaker 15>To bring Conservative votes back in There's two problems with

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 15>the Liberal Party at the moment. The first one is

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 15>the moderates seem to think that we have to go

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 15>to the center and kill the teels first. We're not

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.400
<v Speaker 15>getting back, We're not going to be getting those seats back.

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 15>We need to go and appeal to the Conservative voters

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 15>because they've clearly shown that they are going to go

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 15>to Pauline Hansen just to punish us, and was put

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 15>to me again today that's rightly or wrongly. There is

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<v Speaker 15>more effort in the Liberal Party in Sydney at the

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 15>moment to make sure that the float for the Mardi

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 15>Grari has got together than it is to respond to

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 15>what crisis we've got in Polish they are just cot

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 15>of touch with what is going on. And thank god

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 15>we don't have an election this year. But if you

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 15>look at South Australia, you look at New South Wales,

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 15>you look at Victoria, we're probably going to go backwards.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I mean this polling suggests that you are.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the Liberals are very very backwards as it is,

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.679
<v Speaker 3>and as we just mentioned, pro so Pauline Hanson now

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 3>the most popular political leader in this country. Susan Lee

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 3>sitting at just ten percent favorability.

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<v Speaker 14>What does that tell you, Well, it tells you that

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.880
<v Speaker 14>they're totally stuffed. I mean, the Liberal Party has totally

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 14>misread the community. They have not realized the legitimacy of

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 14>one nation. They've always looked down on them, as has

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 14>every political party, and denigrated and tried to undermine Pauline Hanson.

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 14>And meanwhile they've been betraying and let's face it, in

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 14>any relationship, trust and betrayal are keywords, and Conservative voters

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 14>have been betrayed and have no trust in the Liberal

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:48.719
<v Speaker 14>Party anymore or the coalition. Frankly, it's a circus. They

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 14>have not focused on what is going wrong with this country,

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:56.120
<v Speaker 14>the fact that we have the worst government since Whitlam

0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 14>in control and they are stuffing this country. They should

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 14>be all in the dock for murdering this country. The

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 14>sign concerned, So I mean to have absolute inertia. They're

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 14>so busy creating a rabble amongst themselves. It's just appalling

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 14>and a betrayal of every conservative voter. And they deserve

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<v Speaker 14>what they're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Great.

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<v Speaker 14>Frankly, most people I know they've been traditional liberal voters

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 14>are now going to one nation.

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<v Speaker 3>I completely agree and look as I said, I honestly

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 3>thought that Andrew Hasey would have been a really good choice.

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<v Speaker 3>So where does this leave Angus Taylor? Now, what would

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<v Speaker 3>be your advice to him?

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<v Speaker 15>Well, I don't think that we've got the next leader

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 15>of the Liberal Party, the next Liberal Prime ministers in

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 15>the party room at the moment.

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 16>I think we've got to.

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<v Speaker 15>The position where we can expect to be out of

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<v Speaker 15>government for so long that there will be a generation change.

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<v Speaker 15>There is a lot of criticism of Angus Taylor have

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 15>not being able to get control of an economic agenda.

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 15>It led up to the last election, which is one

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 15>of the reasons why we faulted at the inn. And

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<v Speaker 15>I think that he has to wear that and he

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 15>has to explain to people why there was no economic

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 15>narrative on the conservative side, on the Liberal Party side,

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 15>when the polls always suggest that that's our strongest that's

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 15>our space. Defense and economy is our space, and we

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 15>just didn't have it. So I think, I mean, I

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 15>hate seeing a change of leadership for the sake of

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 15>changing of a leader, because we've done that in state

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 15>politics enough to realize that it doesn't work. In fact,

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 15>it fails more often than it works, and yes, Bob

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 15>Hawk did it, but I'm sorry to say, Angus Taylor

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 15>ain't no Bob, he ain't.

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<v Speaker 14>Thirty five percent of the people in that pole don't

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 14>even know who Angus's salary is. That tells you everything.

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 15>And he's been in long enough that they should and

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 15>he's had positions where they should know.

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 13>Well, I mean, is it a case of waiting for

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 13>Josh Fridenberg.

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 14>Yes, well, if he's going to get his act together,

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 14>I think it would be great if he does. I

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 14>always thought Josh was a little bit woke, but he's

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 14>been so impressive.

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 16>I have been extrame.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 14>Yeah he has, so I think that he would really

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 14>garner a huge vote if you come in. But it's

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 14>not going to happen, as David said quite a while.

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 14>And meanwhile, Colleen Hanson's party is going to just brain it.

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 16>But it's a good point you make that, DENI. I mean,

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 16>we do have the talent.

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 15>We've got my Bed, you know, we've got Nicole Flint,

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.360
<v Speaker 15>We've got we've got done.

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 16>Andrew Hasty, We've got Josh Friedenberg.

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 15>There are people there, but unfortunately there is there is

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 15>a there is a vacuum of leadership in the liberpoty

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 15>to make tough decisions at a time when tough decisions

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 15>have to be made.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, stay in the never never, you know, that's the problems.

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 13>Stay in the never never.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 3>And this one nation light label, it's one nation is working,

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 3>okling is anything to go by. It is no longer

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 3>an insult to say one nation light. So you know,

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe have a think about that. Let's talk about

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 3>the sports minister Anika Wells. She's now avoiding major events

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 3>after you remember that controversy where she spent one hundred

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars of your money on New York flights, a

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Paris troops, red Bow holidays, meals, concerts, events, limousine she

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 3>took her husband. But now she's not going anywhere prou

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>She's skipped or major sporting of including the Ashes and

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 3>the Australian Open, even though actually in her portfolio she's

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 3>required to attend.

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 13>Me she's doing the right thing, holding.

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 14>Back well I understand, right, she doesn't want to be booed. Probably,

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.239
<v Speaker 14>let's face it, what I mean, it is pathetic that

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 14>they're in that situation. I mean, she's indulged herself at

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 14>the taxpayer's trough and she was caught red handed. No

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 14>wonder she's embarrassed, but she should be at those events.

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 14>She doesn't need to take a husband and half half

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 14>the relatives around the Christmas table down to wherever she's going.

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 14>She just needs to represent the taxpayer and be in

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 14>her portfolio. But she's negligent and not going. But you know,

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 14>it's like people are going to be looking and seeing

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 14>who she's going with, what she's spending, where, how many

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 14>meals she's had.

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>It's a pr disaster. It is totally exactly she should

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>have been sat I reckon.

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Well exactly and now the US happen. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>show you this shocking footage in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 13>Have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 3>Two men were kicked out of a gentleman's club at

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 3>the weekend. One then threw chair which was meant to

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 3>hit a security guard. Instead he knocked out his own mate.

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 3>We should have that vision coming up on the screen shortly.

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Look look, David, I think it was here we go.

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Here it is, so the security guards think it's hilarious

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 3>and look here we go this is it knocks his.

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 13>Mate out that was actually meant for a security guard.

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Now the guard thinks it's hilarious and I can see

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 3>the humor almost the irony in this.

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 2>But what does it say about violence in Melbourne?

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 16>But this is more of the same.

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 15>I mean, if it's not drunken LUTs on the streets,

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 15>Sudanese gangs, it's the criminal underworld. It's those that have

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 15>been able to build up drug empires and take out

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 15>their own level of justice.

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 16>And it scares me.

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 15>I mean, I'm scared about family and friends that go

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 15>to Melbourne.

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 16>I'm scared about people that I know that live in Melbourne.

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 15>And the obvious question is what's next and who's next?

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 14>J just Cinder Allen should have some of those bins

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.719
<v Speaker 14>that take chairs now obviously the weapon of choice.

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, forget Michi's go over, it's chairs, our chairs

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 3>at the ultimate weapon, where it's just it is pro

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 3>McSwain David Elliott.

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 13>Really great discussion.

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Thank you to both of you for directors and the show.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 13>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up after the break, a Jewish woman injured in

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 3>the Bondai massacre was given an Anglo name during her

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>stay at a Sydney hospital.

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<v Speaker 13>I'll catch up with Deborah.

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<v Speaker 3>Bell from the Australian Zionist Healthcare Alliance. You won't want

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 3>to miss what she has to say about what Jewish

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 3>patients are going through.

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<v Speaker 13>That's next.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Thanks to terrific reporting by Andrew Clonel at Sky News.

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<v Speaker 3>This week, it's been revealed a Jewish woman, Rosalie Schickberg,

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 3>who was injured in the Bondai massacre, was taken to

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Liverpool Hospital in Sydney and told she was to have

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 3>an Anglo name Karen Jones during her stay.

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 2>It was even printed on her medication. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>She was told that it was to keep the media

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 3>away and to protect her privacy, but she says she

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 17>In my opinion, there was afraid of stuff, not the medium.

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 3>And can you blame her remember when two nurses at

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 3>nearby Bankstown Hospital allegedly threatened to kill Jewish patients. Joining

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 3>me now is co founder and president of Australian Zionist

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Healthcare Alliance.

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<v Speaker 2>Deborah Bell. Deborah, it's really good to have.

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<v Speaker 3>You on the show this evening. Thank you for joining me.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think has gone on here?

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<v Speaker 18>Thank you for having me. What appears to have happened

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 18>here is that a decision was made to change a

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 18>Jewish patient's name because her identity was perceived as a

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 18>safety risk. And I accept that frontline staff were likely

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 18>acting under pressure and with protective intent. However, I would

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 18>argue that the real issue here is systemic because after

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 18>the alleged Bank Town's nurses incident, we still don't know

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 18>what investigations, if any, the New South Wales government carried

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 18>out to determine whether the problem was limited to just

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:02.239
<v Speaker 18>those nurses or whether the problem is more widespread. And

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 18>if Jewish identity is being treated as a risk factor

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 18>in a public hospital, that requires full transparency and investigation

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 18>by Minister around Park and that's unacceptable for Jewish Australians

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 18>and for the wider Australian community.

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<v Speaker 3>Well absolutely, I mean they're not safe in hospitals, They're

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>not safe in schools, not safe at Bondi Beach or

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 3>beaches in general, you know, hospitals that are meant to

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 3>be a place where people should feel most safe.

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<v Speaker 2>So I completely agree with your concerns.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting though, I was listening to the Health Minister

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Mark Butler on Sky News this morning.

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>He was asked about it, and this was his response.

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<v Speaker 19>Okay, that's why late last year I asked all health

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 19>ministers to issue a directive to the professional regulator of

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 19>doctors and nurses and other health professionals really to lift

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 19>their game in overseeing the healthcare system and making sure

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 19>that Jewish Australians felt that they could get safe, high

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 19>quality healthcare without any sense of discrimination.

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<v Speaker 1>In the system.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Have hospitals lifted their game when it comes to the

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 3>safety of Jewish patients?

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 18>If they have, it's clearly not enough. He talks about

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 18>a directive being issued to AARPRA, who's the regulatory body.

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 18>We haven't seen this play out in practice. Jewish doctors

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 18>continue to be on the receiving end of vexatious complaints

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 18>and Jewish staff and patients are telling us that they

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 18>feel anxious and vulnerable after Bankstown or the alleged incident.

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 18>There should have been a system wide review, not just

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:34.760
<v Speaker 18>action against the individuals. And without clear protocols, strong leadership

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 18>and zero tolerance for anti Semitism and anti Zionism, which

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 18>is just the latest iteration of this ancient hatred, the

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 18>problem's not going to be solved. The question needs to

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 18>be asked if this patient was perceived to be under threat.

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 18>Where was that threat coming from? And they're saying it

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 18>was due to media, But they speakes the question that

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 18>why were the names of the other patients in the

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 18>hospitals and other areas of Sydney. Why weren't their names change?

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 18>Surely they were facing the same threat if it was

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 18>external from media, and if they're not, then where was

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 18>this threat coming from?

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a very good question, and I'll look. I

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 3>was a former reporter myself. I can tell you as

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.760
<v Speaker 3>a reporter it's very very easy to find out where

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 3>patients are staying. So this whole argument of art was

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 3>to keep patients safe from the media. I don't buy it.

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 3>I think it's an absolute load of nonsense. And I

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 3>can say that with absolute certainty given my own background.

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Before we let you go. What are Jewish patients telling

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 2>you right now?

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 18>They're telling us they feel vulnerable, They're fearful. I'm seeing

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.760
<v Speaker 18>it in my day to day practice. Even when patients

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 18>are coming and they're seeing Jewish doctors and being treated

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 18>by Jewish doctors such as myself, I'm seeing patients who

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:55.240
<v Speaker 18>are obviously to me, either with Jewish names or Israeli

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 18>patients with Israeli names and Israeli accents, and when you

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 18>look at their notes, they've concealed their identity. They're not

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 18>wearing religious symbols in the hospital, they're not declaring their

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 18>religion on their files. People are telling us that they're

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 18>scared to declare their religion and this is clearly unacceptable.

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 18>Hospitals need to be a safe, a political space for

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 18>all patients. You know, the last thing you need is

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 18>when you're sick and you're vulnerable, is to be worrying

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 18>about whether you're going to be treated differently or mistreated

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 18>because of who you are.

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, as I said, I mean, it's extraordinary the place,

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 3>yet that's meant to keep you safe, Jewish patients are

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 3>fearing for their own lives. Debra Bell, it's great to

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 3>catch up with you. We'll have you on again. Thanks again,

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me. Denika coming up after the break,

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Jim Chalmers told us he'd slay the inflation dragon, yet

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 3>an interest rate hike is all but guaranteed. On Tuesday,

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 3>economists Leaf Van Nonslin will tell us what it means

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.959
<v Speaker 3>for your hip pocket when the federal budget is handed down.

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Plus Live to London as it's revealed. Andrew mount Batten

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Windsor invited Jeffrey Epstein to Buckingham Palace as new photos

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 3>are released. GB News host Emily Kaba is next.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back.

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, it looks like the interest rate hike is all

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 3>but guaranteed. On Tuesday, after inflation rose to three point

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 3>eight percent in the last twelve months to December, stronger

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 3>than expected, while the consumer price index also rose to

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 3>three point four percent in November. But your recall, of course,

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 3>on multiple times Jim Chalmers maintains that.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:29.240
<v Speaker 2>He slayed the inflation dragon. What a load of nonsense.

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm now joined by Macro Business Chief economist Leith van Nonslin. Leif,

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 3>nice to see you, Thanks for joining me. What do

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 3>you put this down to?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, look, look that there's the main fact is actually

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 8>excessive government spending. So one of the reasons why Australia's

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 8>inflation is so high is because public demand, which is

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:50.359
<v Speaker 8>basically government spending, is at a near record high share

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 8>of GDP. It's actually the highest in Australi's history outside

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 8>of the pandemic, and most of the economic growth and

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 8>job growth over the past three years has been driven

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 8>by governments, so that the fact of the matter is

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 8>we've got governments both state and federal, must add the

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 8>running expansory budgets into an economy that's experiencing severe supply

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 8>constraints and as a result, that's helping to drive up inflation.

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 16>It's pretty simple.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's this now mean for the federal budget.

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.280
<v Speaker 3>It's already blown out by whopping fifty seven billion dollars

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 3>and it's been filled, as you just said, there by

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 3>excessive spending, though the treasurer he won't admit to it.

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>This is what he said earlier in the week.

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<v Speaker 20>The forecasts are broadly in line with what we saw

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 20>in the twenty twenty five pre election outlook, to the

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 20>extent that there is a small deterioration that is largely

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.280
<v Speaker 20>explained by receipts, not by spending.

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, if the budget is in worse position

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 3>than initially thought, what's that going to mean for the

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 3>hip pocket.

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, look, it's obviously not great. So that's a fifty

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 8>seven billion dollar deterioration. Now, now that was calculated by

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 8>Shadow treasure Teed O'Brien. So you said on Facebook you think, oh,

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 8>that's a bias assessment, but actually budget expert Chris interested

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 8>and verified those figures, and he believes that two thirds

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 8>of the blowout is due to highest.

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 16>Spending by the government.

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 8>And again, this is highest spending into an economy that's

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 8>already overheating or is suffering from supply constraints, and that's

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 8>actually pushing up inflation. And this wasn't disclosed in the

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 8>pre legend pre election fiscal outlook because it was most

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 8>of this spending comes after the forward estimates period, so

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 8>they managed to sort of kick the can down the

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 8>road and.

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>Hide it from public view. But it has come out now.

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 8>And the fact of the matter is governments need to

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 8>help the RBA out because the RBA has got one

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 8>blunt tool, which is interest rates to try and manage inflation, unemployment, etc.

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 8>When really it is the federal and state governments who

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 8>are through their excessive spending which are actually driving up inflation,

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 8>and they need to be held account accountable for this,

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 8>not the Reserve Bank. The reserve banks simply got one

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 8>tool and it's doing its job. But our governments need

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 8>to do their job and help them out.

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely pulled the weight because again it's every day Aussies

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 3>who were continuing to suffer.

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I've got to ask you about the public service.

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 3>I was flawed to find out reading one of your

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 3>articles that has ballooned to twenty four percent. That's more

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 3>than two hundred and thirteen thousand staff since Labor was elected.

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I find this extraordinary leaf because you recall late last

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 3>year Labour said, oh, we're going to go on this

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 3>austerity drive. You know, hundreds, if not thousands of jobs

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 3>in the public service have to go.

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>This was a very Doge style policy.

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Literbool party took it to the last election, of course,

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 3>but then Labour came out and said no, no, actually,

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 3>no cuts.

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>To the public service.

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 3>And now look at this, I mean, how can they

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 3>justify figures like this?

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And I'd also argue that with the rise in

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 8>the public servants both at the state and federal level,

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 8>so to be fair, the state governments have also had

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 8>a balloon in public servants. But this twenty four percent

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 8>increase is obviously one of the contributors to this inflation

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.879
<v Speaker 8>problem we've got. And I'd argue that we're actually getting

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 8>worse outcomes in police across the board with these acceleration

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 8>in public service servants. So the Independent Parliamentary Budget offers

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 8>their costings actually suggest that government spending is going to

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 8>rise by twelve billion over the next four years if

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 8>the public servant numbers the federal level are kept the

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 8>current level of two hundred and thirteen thousand. That's because

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 8>the federal labor has agreed to eleven point two percent

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 8>pay rises over three years. So if they don't cut

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 8>the numbers, we're going to have another twelve billion dollar

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 8>deterioration in the budget based.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>On these numbers.

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 8>It's just not sustainable and we need we basically need

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 8>our governments to get out of the way of the

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 8>private sector because they are crowding them out with this spending.

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well clearly, and you know they do need to

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 3>make some cuts. As I said, the Libs took it

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 3>to the election and it was scared by labor. No, no,

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 3>that's a very US style. Well, I mean the proofs

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 3>in the putting, isn't it leak ban Onslom. We've got

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 3>to leave it there. Good to have you on, Thanks

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 3>so much for joining me, really appreciate it. Well, let's

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 3>go over to the UK now, because things are going

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 3>from bad to worse for the man formerly known as

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Prince Andrew. The US Department has released more of the

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Epstein files, with one showing alleged emails between Andrew Mountbatten

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 3>Windsor and the pedophile talking about a quote beautiful girl.

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 3>And then there are these disturbing photos which appear to

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:19.800
<v Speaker 3>show Andrew Mountbatten Windsor on all fours leaning over a female.

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Joining us now from London is gb News host Emily Carver. Emily,

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 3>welcome back to the program. Thank you so much for

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 3>your time.

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 2>It's really great to see you.

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Look, I mean, I think those photos are extremely disturbing,

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 3>but also the fact that Andrew invited Jeffrey Epstein to

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Buckingham Palace that the royal family must be mortified.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 17>It's absolutely a shocking yet another string of damaging revelations

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 17>for the royal family from these Epstein files. It's not

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 17>just Andrew notes Sir Richard Branson, it's leeber Lord Mandelsson,

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 17>who is unbelievably our ambassador to the United States thanks

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.359
<v Speaker 17>to Kirs Starmer. But yes, the world has now seen

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 17>these photographs of Andrew mount button Windsor, no longer Prince

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 17>of Call, on all fours, looming over an unidentified woman. Now,

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.439
<v Speaker 17>there is no nudity involved by the looks of things.

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 17>But what on earth was a member of our royal

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 17>family doing posing for ridiculous photos with what looks like

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 17>a young woman playing dead on the floor. We know

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 17>that Andrew, as you say, invited this pedophile to an

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 17>intimate dinner at Buckingham Palace only a month, only a

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 17>month after Epstein was released from house arrest after he'd

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 17>spent time in prison for his convictions. As you say,

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 17>also a beautiful twenty six year old Russian woman. This

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 17>was two years after Epstein was convicted. So Andrew at

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 17>the time, when he's been called out on this, says, oh, no,

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 17>we weren't in communication. Weren't in communication. They were in

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 17>very regular communication and very friendly a communication by the

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 17>sounds of this, Because none of this seems to bother

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 17>Andrew himself, the arrogant man that we all know. He

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 17>was seen out riding yesterday, photographed laughing and smiling as

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 17>if nothing was going on. He's still not moved out

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:01.240
<v Speaker 17>of his thirty room Royal Volie on the Windsor estate

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 17>because his new home is being renovated, so he couldn't

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 17>possibly find somewhere else to live. But I'm sure King

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 17>Charles is at least happy. He must feel at least

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 17>vindicated that he did strip Andrew of all his royal titles.

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 17>But perhaps it should have come a little sooner.

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, it's extraordinary.

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 3>And I will point out that Branson denies any involvement

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 3>and has said that Epstein's actions are a borrent. But

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.959
<v Speaker 3>I mean those photos good, good graf. Anyway, I'm sure

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 3>more to come on this out. Look, let's talk about

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 3>the UK Prime Minister, Kiir Starmer. He's come up with

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 3>what I would call a very novel way to stop

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.479
<v Speaker 3>migrants from crossing the Channel Emily. He's gone and asked

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.280
<v Speaker 3>China for help, and as part of the deal between

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:44.359
<v Speaker 3>kios Stamer and Shujingping, the two countries will share intelligence.

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Can you believe it? A great idea sharing intelligence with China.

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 17>I mean, it's absolutely remarkable. You couldn't make it up.

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 17>This man has absolutely no idea what he's doing. I'm

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 17>talking about the Prime minister, of course. Apparently this is

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 17>his great idea to stop a llegal migration. So ra

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 17>than police our own borders, which we've been begging him

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 17>to do, you'd think was rather a matter of national securities.

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 17>Actually asking the Chinese, a hostile state who spy on

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 17>us incessantly to help him out a bit. They must

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 17>be absolutely laughing at us at this point. Apparently China

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 17>is now going to help prevent engines, which are predominantly

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 17>made in China, from getting into the hands of criminals,

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 17>of getting into the hands of people smugglers. But what

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<v Speaker 17>are they seriously going to do? Tanika you know in

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<v Speaker 17>scroll made in China, not for use in the English

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<v Speaker 17>channel on the side. I mean, could this be more

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<v Speaker 17>of a gimmick if he tried. What we need to

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<v Speaker 17>do in this country is leave the European Court of

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<v Speaker 17>Human Rights so illegal migrants can be swiftly deported.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 17>Why on earth are we trusting China to help us

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<v Speaker 17>out on this one?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Literally the worst possible country to help you out when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just very bizarre. Look, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About Sharon Osborne. I was interested to raid this this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>She's tased that she might run for Birmingham City Council

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<v Speaker 3>after learning that a convicted terrorists was standing for a

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<v Speaker 3>saint share he'd but was found guilty of conspiring to

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<v Speaker 3>attack the British consulate in Yemen. This is back in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety nine and now apparently he wants to be

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<v Speaker 3>a British councilor the irony. But Emily, look, let's forget

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<v Speaker 3>Sharon for a minute here. That the more serious issue

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<v Speaker 3>in my view is that a convicted terrorist is even

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to run in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>How is that possible?

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<v Speaker 17>I mean, it's absolutely outrageous, absolutely outrageous. I can't actually

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<v Speaker 17>believe it. And there are people in this country who

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<v Speaker 17>are actually defending his right to run for election in

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<v Speaker 17>this country. It's absolutely absurd. But the problem is if

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<v Speaker 17>he is allowed to go ahead, he may well win.

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<v Speaker 17>I mean, this is a seat that is particularly is

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<v Speaker 17>about well, it is very much majority Muslim. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 17>possibly go for someone like Sharon Osborne. But I'd love

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<v Speaker 17>to see her run. Of course, she's got links to Birmingham.

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<v Speaker 17>Her late husband of course from there, grew up there,

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<v Speaker 17>did all his music from there. But this guy, he's

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<v Speaker 17>now running on a Progaza ticket, of course. But it's

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<v Speaker 17>just so depressing, isn't it. Britain twenty twenty six, We've

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<v Speaker 17>got convicted Islamist terrorists trying to run for office and

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<v Speaker 17>he'll probably get away with it and continue to do

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<v Speaker 17>it and people will actually vote for him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 17>it is a shocking state of affairs. It's got to

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<v Speaker 17>be stopped. And I hope it is.

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<v Speaker 3>A han And I've got to say I like Sharon.

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<v Speaker 3>She always speaks her mind. She's never shies away from

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<v Speaker 3>a debate. So if she's serious about this, I say

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<v Speaker 3>good on her. Emily Carver, nice to see you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for joining me on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you well.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up after the break, my done of the week.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a cop at this time. Find out next.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it is time for Danika's dud of the Week,

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<v Speaker 3>which this week goes to Roger Waters of the band

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<v Speaker 3>Pink Floyd for his latest public hallucination now Here.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a few weeks ago backing.

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<v Speaker 3>The oppressive Iranian regime, which has adopted a shoot to

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<v Speaker 3>kill policy on protesters fighting for their freedoms.

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<v Speaker 16>Have a look.

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<v Speaker 4>So, just to be clear, you support the protesters and

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<v Speaker 4>you support the regime, yes, of course, what look?

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<v Speaker 3>It really seems as though the rock and roll lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe of the seventies and eighties, has taken its toll

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<v Speaker 3>on Roger because he now claims, oh, I misspoke.

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<v Speaker 6>He says, I misspoke. I apologize. I said I support

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<v Speaker 6>the regime. What I support is the country of Iran.

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<v Speaker 6>Do I like the Ayatola whatever his name is. No,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's a simple and easy mistake to make right.

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<v Speaker 3>He meant the country he met the country. Look, Roger

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<v Speaker 3>has lost his marbles. Earth to Roger.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anybody in there? Roger I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, though, think it is fair to diagnose him

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<v Speaker 3>as comfortably dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Roger Waters takes out week two. Well that is all

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<v Speaker 3>from me tonight. Thank you so much for your company.

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<v Speaker 3>I will be back at eight pm on Friday night

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<v Speaker 3>for opinionated, but stay with us. Coming up right now

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<v Speaker 3>is the McPherson Angle, hosted by my good friend James McPherson.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Night,