Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Burray Live. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for watching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I'll get to Zalie Stegul showing how
Speaker 2: mean the left can be.
Speaker 1: For there apparently as they're compassionate.
Speaker 2: There's an amazing story about China interfering in the debate
Speaker 2: here in Australia. It was been years you probably didn't
Speaker 2: hear about it.
Speaker 1: And today was actually a very good day to Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: not just because of the way he handled himself, but
Speaker 1: also new opinion polls, new data. I'll get to all
Speaker 1: of that as always, and i'd love to know you
Speaker 1: think that Winna Musa of the Week is going to be.
Speaker 2: But first, as we know in the UK, it's been
Speaker 2: tough watching this place of which we've either visited or
Speaker 2: many people are from, and that we love, that has
Speaker 2: descended into a form of chaos that's been a long
Speaker 2: time coming, and of course once you get to that
Speaker 2: stage it is too late.
Speaker 1: But something has also devolved.
Speaker 2: In the UK over a long period of time, which
Speaker 2: is the normalization of knife crime of stabbings.
Speaker 3: London is on a knife edge, with the capital recording
Speaker 3: a new knife crime incident every thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: Zombie style knives and machetes.
Speaker 3: Knife crime in London, stabbing attack on the British seaside
Speaker 3: town of Southport.
Speaker 2: Literally anyone who pays attention to English news or has
Speaker 2: family every day, every day and as you just heard,
Speaker 2: there every thirty minutes and they say they're going to
Speaker 2: crack down on it, and then nothing happens. Well, as
Speaker 2: you have heard today, a little Australian girl who was
Speaker 2: doing what many little Australian girls do, which is have
Speaker 2: a dream holiday in the UK, going to the place
Speaker 2: where there's the Lego store, the eminem store, it's the
Speaker 2: equivalent of Times Square. A little eleven year old girl
Speaker 2: was stabbed. It was confirmed in the past twenty four
Speaker 2: hours that this little girl is from New South Wales.
Speaker 4: Now, this shock attack happened in broad daylight Michael in
Speaker 4: London's busy Leicester Square. She was with her thirty four
Speaker 4: year old mother at the time of the attack, and
Speaker 4: the ABC understands that the family, who is on holiday
Speaker 4: in London at the moment, is from New South Wales.
Speaker 4: The girl was taken to hospital with serious but non
Speaker 4: life threatening injuries. She received plastic surgery, but has since
Speaker 4: been released from hospital.
Speaker 2: An excellent part of the story is how, just like
Speaker 2: in the scenario in Bondi, that there were security guards
Speaker 2: who were there. Thankfully, unlike the Bondou situation, a life
Speaker 2: was saved because of the actions of this security guard
Speaker 2: who spoke to the ABC.
Speaker 5: I heard a screen I sold said there was a
Speaker 5: guy who was stabbing a girl. So as I saw them,
Speaker 5: I stabbing the girl, I started running towards the guy.
Speaker 5: I jumped on the guy, hold his hand in which
Speaker 5: she was cutting a knavee him down on the floor,
Speaker 5: and then kick the knife away from him. At that time,
Speaker 5: there was only one thought to save the kit, to
Speaker 5: save her more, nothing else.
Speaker 1: From everyone in Australia. Mate, thank you, well done.
Speaker 2: You welcome here anytime you want, come for holiday or
Speaker 2: stay for even a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: But this isn't the only.
Speaker 2: Part of what I wanted to mention at the start
Speaker 2: of tonight's show, because, of course, in and around Paris
Speaker 2: and the phenomenal Olympic Games that we all sat there
Speaker 2: and watched and enjoyed. Before the games, there were a
Speaker 2: couple of terrible stories, including of course, significant assaults that
Speaker 2: had happened on a couple of people who worked for
Speaker 2: the Channel Line broadcasting team. Also, the gold medalist of
Speaker 2: the BMX had been robbed a couple of days before
Speaker 2: he was set to compete, and thankfully they swamped the
Speaker 2: area with police, because you can do that during something
Speaker 2: like an Olympic Games. And apparently crime was dealt with
Speaker 2: quite aggressively. Now to the bit I really want to
Speaker 2: talk about. At the time, the chef to Micheon of
Speaker 2: the Australia Olympic team and Emirs said this about the
Speaker 2: crime situation in Paris.
Speaker 5: We're in a big international city.
Speaker 6: Crime is a part of life.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, we just need to have some common sense and
Speaker 5: stay safe where we can and make those smart decisions
Speaker 5: and be grateful for the people who are putting themselves
Speaker 5: in a position to keep us safe.
Speaker 1: Well that makes sense. I can't stand that view.
Speaker 2: Because slowly but surely, like we've all heard of the
Speaker 2: frog in the pot that doesn't realize it's in boiling
Speaker 2: water until eventually it is too late. Societies crumble when
Speaker 2: they start to look the other way and start to
Speaker 2: normalize the idea, Yeah, this stuff happens, fingers cross, it
Speaker 2: doesn't happen to you.
Speaker 1: This is a terrible attitude for people to have.
Speaker 2: I understand why people say it, We've all probably said
Speaker 2: it to ourselves, but it's something that links back to
Speaker 2: Australia and our attitude towards crime. Now increasingly people are
Speaker 2: telling us that as a dominant political issue at state
Speaker 2: and even federal level is things like crime. But just
Speaker 2: like I said, we don't want to ever become a
Speaker 2: place that ends up having race riots in whichever direction,
Speaker 2: with whomever is stoking them or whoever is the focus
Speaker 2: of them. We also don't want to get to a
Speaker 2: stage where an eleven year old girl can be stabbed
Speaker 2: in the middle of the equivalent of whatever our version
Speaker 2: of Times Square is, be it Federation Square in Melbourne,
Speaker 2: be it Circular Key, be it the Valley in Brisbane,
Speaker 2: or anywhere else around the country. But sadly, the way
Speaker 2: that we get information about crime in Australia tends to
Speaker 2: show us that the attitude is what you're going to do.
Speaker 2: You see if you actually have a look at the
Speaker 2: numbers which are served up in the crime statistics and
Speaker 2: what I'm just going to focus in on New South
Speaker 2: Wales because I know how to read how they do
Speaker 2: this data. Now we'll tell you that domestic violence is
Speaker 2: up and non domestic violence is up, and breaking end
Speaker 2: as are up, and stealing from a car is up,
Speaker 2: and stealing from a store is up, and other stealing
Speaker 2: is up. There's this horrible word that is used by
Speaker 2: crime statisticians, and it's not because they're heartless.
Speaker 1: It's just this is their description that.
Speaker 2: If it doesn't really go up and it doesn't really
Speaker 2: go down. The term that they use is stable, and
Speaker 2: in New South Wales murder is stable. Murder is stable,
Speaker 2: and assaulting police is stable, and sexual assault is stable,
Speaker 2: and other sexual offenses are stable, and abductions are stable,
Speaker 2: and blackmail and extortion is stable. But the reality is
Speaker 2: that behind stable or behind up or behind down are
Speaker 2: human beings. For crimes to be committed, there obviously is
Speaker 2: a perpetrator, there are obviously is a victim. So think
Speaker 2: about this from the perspective of these statistics are not statistics.
Speaker 2: They are victims on the other side of somebody who
Speaker 2: has been arrested and potentially gone through the court system.
Speaker 2: This is the numbers from March this year to March
Speaker 2: last year in New South Wales. These are the categories
Speaker 2: that are of course referred to as stable sixty five
Speaker 2: people were killed non domestic violence they say is up
Speaker 2: just by six percent. What if I told you that
Speaker 2: there was a football stadium of victims of domestic violence
Speaker 2: in New South Wales, that number feels a lot different,
Speaker 2: doesn't it than just six point six percent up? Or
Speaker 2: the general assault figures another football stadium of people, the
Speaker 2: number of people have been sexually assaulted, a smaller but
Speaker 2: still football of people.
Speaker 1: In terms of police officers, we've.
Speaker 2: Broken this down many times where there are what the
Speaker 2: best part of six assaults that take place every day,
Speaker 2: public holiday, Monday, Tuesday, middle of the week, middle of
Speaker 2: the year. So you get to two and a half
Speaker 2: thousand police officers who were assaulted last year, twenty thousand
Speaker 2: examples of somebody breaking in and stealing something from a house,
Speaker 2: a car, or somebody who smashes up property. Now, each
Speaker 2: and every one of those numbers is a person. So
Speaker 2: when I hear people say big city crimes, part of it,
Speaker 2: just remain vigilant. At the heart of that, well, I
Speaker 2: understand what the cautious statement that is being given is.
Speaker 2: At the heart of it is, Yeah, somebody's going to
Speaker 2: get stabbed, but fingers crossed, it's not you. Now, the
Speaker 2: same way that people rage about certain types of crime
Speaker 2: that take place and demand that the only acceptable result
Speaker 2: is zero h next to some of these offenses, well
Speaker 2: that applies to all offenses. Now, Can you live in
Speaker 2: a crime free society that doesn't have a police state?
Speaker 1: Probably not.
Speaker 2: And just like we talked last night about education and
Speaker 2: mental health, and I'll get to that in a second,
Speaker 2: about some of your incredible responses to that, we have
Speaker 2: to remain vigilant that the goal of policing, the goal
Speaker 2: of the people who pass the laws, and theoretically the
Speaker 2: goal of the people who end up handing out the punishments,
Speaker 2: is not stable. Is not it'll happen, fingers cross It's
Speaker 2: not your eleven year old daughter, But it's zero. When
Speaker 2: these numbers come out, so very few politicians comment about it,
Speaker 2: and so very few people follow up as to why
Speaker 2: these numbers are the way they are. Again, certain categories
Speaker 2: of crime get, you know, their own little day and
Speaker 2: their own little ribbon. But if you are somebody who
Speaker 2: is the victim of that general assault number, which again
Speaker 2: was as I say, thirty four thousand people one state
Speaker 2: one year, those.
Speaker 1: Are people whose lives are changed forever.
Speaker 2: So as always we remain very pro police on this
Speaker 2: show that they have to deal with all of this
Speaker 2: each and every day. But I wanted to take the
Speaker 2: chance it started the show to say, if you are
Speaker 2: one of the people who has been a victim of
Speaker 2: crime in this state, in these stats, we see you
Speaker 2: as people not as slightly up, slightly down, or stable.
Speaker 1: Sat as.
Speaker 2: I hope that we remain getting as much information as
Speaker 2: possible about that little girl and doesn't just become a
Speaker 2: day where it comes and it goes, because you know,
Speaker 2: that's just what happens. It's not acceptable, it's not okay.
Speaker 2: It's a sign of a society in a world of trouble.
Speaker 2: And again, strength and love to everyone who's having to
Speaker 2: deal with or any of those things in your recent
Speaker 2: or way back when history. Thank you so much to
Speaker 2: everyone who reached out in the past twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've got as many emails in a
Speaker 2: day as we have in the past day. Now, the
Speaker 2: way to send an email to us is polotsgnews dot com.
Speaker 2: That are you, But there are lots of other ways,
Speaker 2: and some people remember my personal email address I used
Speaker 2: to give out on the air before we had polots
Speaker 2: gonews dot com that are you and I got flooded
Speaker 2: lots of people, lots of messages, lots of Facebook, and
Speaker 2: all of it was in and around the difficulties are
Speaker 2: in and around mental health and how this country needs
Speaker 2: to put front and center it as big a priority
Speaker 2: as trying to cure cancer. The child psychologists clear Row
Speaker 2: was very supportive of what we had to say, but
Speaker 2: equally said it's not just about money. Well said, well done.
Speaker 2: We'll have a chat to her in the next few
Speaker 2: days about it. And lots of people told us their
Speaker 2: version of the story about how the system sometimes worked
Speaker 2: but mostly didn't work, or they didn't interact with it,
Speaker 2: or there even some people who reached out to tell
Speaker 2: me that I was the first person that they were
Speaker 2: telling about a certain story.
Speaker 1: To all of you, thank you.
Speaker 2: It is not lost on me how much strength that takes,
Speaker 2: and it has not lost on me the honor in
Speaker 2: which it was that you put your trust in me
Speaker 2: to have that information. I look forward to replying to
Speaker 2: all of those messages over the next couple of days.
Speaker 2: As anyone knows, even my family, I'm not the world's
Speaker 2: best at returning phone calls or text messages, let alone emails.
Speaker 1: But I will to all those people that told beautiful stories.
Speaker 2: But there's a couple of other extensions to the story
Speaker 2: that I wanted to bring you tonight, which was the
Speaker 2: cost of living. The obsession of this program, because it
Speaker 2: is the focus of the nation, does have an effect
Speaker 2: on the amount of people who just don't have the
Speaker 2: cash to go and seek some of the support that
Speaker 2: may well help them deal with whatever is going on.
Speaker 2: Psychologists say that patients are unable to access their help
Speaker 2: because of rising costs and shortening wait lists are being
Speaker 2: triggered because people are simply unable to afford psychological care.
Speaker 2: In April, a survey by the Australian Psychological Association found
Speaker 2: that more than forty.
Speaker 1: Percent of psychologists reported costs.
Speaker 2: As the main barrier for patient access. The President said
Speaker 2: that psychologists were reporting they're shortening waiting lists were a
Speaker 2: result of patients simply not accessing their services. Patients currently
Speaker 2: face putting food on the table and paying their rent
Speaker 2: rather than dealing with mental health. And there were a
Speaker 2: couple of people who seemed to doubt what I was
Speaker 2: saying about the government and the access to the telehealth system. Now,
Speaker 2: generally speaking this is mostly used for access to your GP,
Speaker 2: but for people when it comes to mental health, that
Speaker 2: is the first step sometimes on being able to work
Speaker 2: out which way to go, and it's a really valuable
Speaker 2: and important step. Now, at the height of COVID, when
Speaker 2: people physically couldn't go to the doctor because they weren't
Speaker 2: allowed to leave the house, you know all of that nonsense. Well,
Speaker 2: ten free telehealth visits were available to all Australians. Then
Speaker 2: this government came to power and of course one of
Speaker 2: the first things they did to announce that this was
Speaker 2: going to start to wrap up. At the time, there
Speaker 2: were plenty of things where vulnerable Australians were filled with
Speaker 2: dread over the potential telehealth cuts. The government decision to
Speaker 2: limit telehealth services will make vulnerable Australians suffer more, said
Speaker 2: the GPS. Now this was put back ever so slightly
Speaker 2: for some people in regional areas, but in terms of
Speaker 2: automatic access it is no longer the case. This must
Speaker 2: be changed. Tomorrow there'll be a meeting of all of
Speaker 2: the mental health ministers around the country. I hope they
Speaker 2: come up with the opportunity of finding ways for more
Speaker 2: people to get free access to the very least their
Speaker 2: GP or other services, to be able to make sure
Speaker 2: that you can start a journey, a journey that I
Speaker 2: hope is as fast as possible. I hope it involves
Speaker 2: as little medication as possible. But the reality is for
Speaker 2: some people it will be long and it will involve medication.
Speaker 2: But I want people to be able to be taken
Speaker 2: care of. And in the same way, we don't want
Speaker 2: to ignore the lump on the back of your neck.
Speaker 2: I want you to ignore the lump that may well
Speaker 2: be in here because of what's going on up here.
Speaker 2: We'll all find out what happens in a meeting, But
Speaker 2: when these things happen on Friday and normally go for
Speaker 2: two hours, the agreement has probably already been made. But
Speaker 2: of course I've done my best to try to bend
Speaker 2: arms in the past loudly on television, but I will
Speaker 2: try to continue to do so quietly behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: This is an important thing that needs to be done.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm going to link this back to the
Speaker 2: cost of living stuff that I've talked about over the
Speaker 2: past or for years, because you see, when a government
Speaker 2: turns around and takes fifteen hundred dollars automatic tax returns
Speaker 2: off people like this government did in their first budget
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. It meant that there was fifteen
Speaker 2: hundred dollars automatically taken away from families that may well
Speaker 2: have been able to be spent on reaching out for
Speaker 2: the correct services. It was, of course, the load of
Speaker 2: middle income tax bracket as it was called back then.
Speaker 2: Both sides of politics were committed to it. As I said,
Speaker 2: if the Liberals had been returned, you know, I would
Speaker 2: have been not bending arms, but I would have been
Speaker 2: making sure that this would not have happened. But Labor
Speaker 2: they don't care what we think. Well, they'll find out
Speaker 2: what the reality of that and ignoring what we've been
Speaker 2: talking about will be at the upcoming election. But even
Speaker 2: the Australian Institute noticed ten million people get screwed over here.
Speaker 2: And if you don't have fifteen hundred dollars to be
Speaker 2: able to go and seek out services, this is what
Speaker 2: some people are used with that fifteen hundred dollars. That's
Speaker 2: why the smartasses in Canberra who thought, let's just take
Speaker 2: the three and a big billion dollars that would automatically
Speaker 2: be the fifteen hundred dollar thing. We'll move it over
Speaker 2: to student dead because it doesn't really cost the budget,
Speaker 2: but it's more politically advantageous over here. Ten median people
Speaker 2: should still be getting access to that money as a
Speaker 2: way of being able to keep themselves Afloat meantime, another
Speaker 2: huge amount of reaction from people about our education system.
Speaker 2: So many teachers who understood the nuance of what I
Speaker 2: was saying. That I understand the well meaning and well
Speaker 2: talented and well trained and the honest teachers that would
Speaker 2: watch a program like this or certainly their family members
Speaker 2: who are proud of the teachers in their life. And
Speaker 2: that's why it didn't bash teachers last night about this issue.
Speaker 2: The Naplan results were horrific. They remain horrific. They remain
Speaker 2: something that is deeply emotionally difficult for anyone who wants
Speaker 2: the future of the country to be good. That won
Speaker 2: in three kids are not meeting basic literacy or numeracy expectations.
Speaker 2: Now again, there's a consequence to this Naplan. Literacy and
Speaker 2: numeracy failure is a ticking time bomb. Say employers organizations
Speaker 2: in US Willicks who works for one of them, will
Speaker 2: represents bosses around the country says the latest Lapland tests
Speaker 2: are a bad sign for our country and paint ablik
Speaker 2: picture for a more productive and competitive future. The sheet
Speaker 2: number of Australians falling behind basic and necessary foundation skills
Speaker 2: is simply unacceptable. We must get the basics right to
Speaker 2: develop the skills that we need for tomorrow's workforce. That's
Speaker 2: the consequence too. It's not just ay you didn't do
Speaker 2: well at school, see you later. There's a job that
Speaker 2: has to happen on the other side of it.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 2: Because we want to make sure that people are able
Speaker 2: to determine their own future with their own money, not
Speaker 2: to be determined and tied into a welfare system. The
Speaker 2: funding issue must be resolved and the political blame game
Speaker 2: has to stop. We have well passed the time that
Speaker 2: this is to be settled. Absolutely correct. Now you've heard
Speaker 2: everyone else talk about this tonight, and largely I would
Speaker 2: agree with many of what you have already heard over
Speaker 2: the past twenty four hours. But as you know, the
Speaker 2: way things were put yesterday, I had my issues with
Speaker 2: what was being said by the Opposition leader when it
Speaker 2: came to people coming from a war zone. As I
Speaker 2: said at the time, it will double down Now, of course,
Speaker 2: the concept of all Palestinians automatically hamas is as ludicrous
Speaker 2: as all Chinese are part of the CCP or so
Speaker 2: one and so one and someone. However, today was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: To try to pretend that the position of the leader
Speaker 2: of the opposition was racist is absolute garbage. Now, his view,
Speaker 2: as you know, is that it's all about national security,
Speaker 2: it's not about race.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 2: While I stand by the criticism of the way things
Speaker 2: were said yesterday, and I know some of you didn't
Speaker 2: like that I said it, but I'm not going to
Speaker 2: flip day in, day out, I do appreciate what was
Speaker 2: said today, and I do appreciate how he presented himself
Speaker 2: today and how this issue got a little more detail
Speaker 2: behind it. As you know, the media, of course, are
Speaker 2: desperate and have been desperate since day one, and certainly
Speaker 2: since the Voice campaign, as I told you, as I've
Speaker 2: shown you, and I've shown you the receipts all the
Speaker 2: way through, and when inevitably this conversation is cut out
Speaker 2: of context and is put into the giant montage of
Speaker 2: Sky News Primetime crazy Talk in and around all of this,
Speaker 2: of course they'll miss all the other stuff I said last.
Speaker 1: Night or tonight. But you get the point. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll we're up against.
Speaker 2: They have been waiting for the moment to try to
Speaker 2: cast Peter Dutton is too extreme, too much the Aussie Trump.
Speaker 2: They've tried it on multiple fronts, multiple times and they thought, Aha,
Speaker 2: we've got this today.
Speaker 4: It's comments have drawn more accusations of racism, prompting a
Speaker 4: warning from one Independent whose fled war that it could
Speaker 4: inside fear and hatred in the community.
Speaker 7: The Opposition leader's comments leading to angry scenes in Parliament
Speaker 7: and more claims of racism.
Speaker 4: Peter Duttan's calls for a ban on Palestinian refugees has
Speaker 4: brought the conflict in Gaza back to the floor of Parliament.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: We all know where he was coming from and it
Speaker 2: definitely was not from the position of race. It was
Speaker 2: about vetting a national security. For it to be deliberately
Speaker 2: twisted as it was by, among others, Zalie Stegel, who
Speaker 2: sort of was doing the racism version of the Manique
Speaker 2: Ryn put your mask on today in parliament.
Speaker 4: These are families that you are seeking to paint that
Speaker 4: somehow they are all terrorists and.
Speaker 7: We hurt you in silence you can hear me in silence.
Speaker 1: Stop being later of the opposition.
Speaker 2: Of course she represents a diverse but not as diverse
Speaker 2: as other parts of the country. Part of the country
Speaker 2: in the northern beaches of Sydney, I would be fascinated
Speaker 2: to know whether there is about to be a great
Speaker 2: opening of the arms so people can live on the
Speaker 2: tennis courts of Mossman. We'll all, of course wait and
Speaker 2: see till then. I'm not going to fall for the
Speaker 2: guard whiche. We know what he was talking about. I
Speaker 2: called out what I thought was too much yesterday, but
Speaker 2: I am not going to double down on this crap today.
Speaker 2: We'll debate it among others with Michael Kroger in a
Speaker 2: moment or two time. Unemployment went up today, not a
Speaker 2: good thing when it comes to our economy. Now, ironically
Speaker 2: it went up despite the fact that yes, more jobs
Speaker 2: were created in the past month. But this all feeds
Speaker 2: into the overly complicated mix of what will happen when
Speaker 2: it comes to the Reserve Bank, and as millions of
Speaker 2: Australians are holding on frightened about what may will happen politically,
Speaker 2: we know that certainly a thirteenth rate rise. Why it's
Speaker 2: the tenth, not the twelfth, Not the tenth, not the eleventh,
Speaker 2: not the ninth or the eighth rate rise that apparently
Speaker 2: will cause trouble for the UB and easy government. Well okay,
Speaker 2: but I've got to say some of the reporting today
Speaker 2: was interesting. Talk about a sitting on the fence headline
Speaker 2: from AAP Mixed jobs data gives RBA more food for thought,
Speaker 2: thankscoup In, what do you think is going to happen?
Speaker 2: But of course there was another bit of data too,
Speaker 2: which you may well not have heard about today, and
Speaker 2: it is going to heavily effect the Prime Minister and
Speaker 2: his treasure is capacity to deliver yet another budget surplus,
Speaker 2: another lucky budget surplus, because it's not by design. Spending
Speaker 2: has gone up, Revenue has of course been what has
Speaker 2: been able to hide the structural deficits that the Treasury
Speaker 2: itself has promises promised in the Intergenerational Report for the
Speaker 2: next forty years, meaning the way the thing is put together,
Speaker 2: we spend more than we have coming in. Currently there's
Speaker 2: a surplus because they have been kissed on the proverbial
Speaker 2: by the amount of money we are making from the
Speaker 2: mining sector among others. Well, today the beginning of a
Speaker 2: potential wobble in this area. There's some problems in the
Speaker 2: Chinese economy right now. Again, I'm not going to pretend
Speaker 2: to play an economist on television, but I am paying
Speaker 2: attention to the news that tells us that the Chinese
Speaker 2: economy is starting to have some real troubles.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Of course, if that's the case, and they don't buy
Speaker 2: what we make here, or they don't buy what the
Speaker 2: world makes, well guess what starts to happen The record prices,
Speaker 2: which in part are based off what China needs to
Speaker 2: buy or China chooses to buy, or what we choose
Speaker 2: to sell them at a crazy price.
Speaker 1: You get the point. The tax take starts to fall.
Speaker 2: Now iron ore and the iron ore price is always
Speaker 2: undervalued by the Treasury, so that when it over delivers,
Speaker 2: you have surprised revenue when you end up with the surpluses,
Speaker 2: which by the way, include the future fund. But today
Speaker 2: an insight unemployment is going up not great. The Reserve
Speaker 2: Bank right on the line about whether it raised interest
Speaker 2: rates for the thirteenth time, and potentially the revenue coming
Speaker 2: into the federal government way will be about to crack
Speaker 2: wh because of what.
Speaker 1: Is happening in China.
Speaker 2: But I thought we'd learned the lesson, hadn't we about
Speaker 2: being overly dependent on China when it comes to our economy.
Speaker 2: Oh No, that was just silly talk during the pandemic,
Speaker 2: wasn't it. Now speaking of China and its government, the
Speaker 2: CCP again, you know you shouldn't have to point this out.
Speaker 1: It is obvious in my mind.
Speaker 2: But we know people like to pretend they tell you
Speaker 2: what you think when you start to talk about this.
Speaker 2: And when I talk about China, I talk about its government,
Speaker 2: the CCP, and we know the position of this government
Speaker 2: is to suck up to the CCP. Why because there
Speaker 2: are votes in them Nah Hills. And if the relationship
Speaker 2: between China and Australia is on level and China isn't
Speaker 2: finding ways to punish us economically to serve up an
Speaker 2: example to the rest of the world, then maybe maybe
Speaker 2: maybe the votes come your way. We certainly know that
Speaker 2: that was the case at the last federal election. But
Speaker 2: fascinating Exclusive and World under the at news dot com,
Speaker 2: you who are able to work this one out? That
Speaker 2: China the CCP, not the Chinese people, not the Chinese
Speaker 2: people here in Australia, but China the CCP is trying
Speaker 2: to control debate in Australia, says an intelligence analyst. Now
Speaker 2: this is five thousand AI run accounts on social media
Speaker 2: sites like x. It's all part of an information war.
Speaker 2: As news dot com AU says that China is waging
Speaker 2: against Australia. The cybersecurity firm, which is called cyber x
Speaker 2: said it also picked up that some Australian focused activity
Speaker 2: was happening on these social media sites.
Speaker 1: What was happening?
Speaker 2: The network is clearly trying to throw divisive content about
Speaker 2: particularly nuclear energy. What side of that debate fairly obvious.
Speaker 2: If it is to help the government that sucks up
Speaker 2: to them as opposed to the opposition who doesn't the
Speaker 2: embattled CFMU and the government's immigration policies, As the analyst
Speaker 2: told News dot com that are you today. They use
Speaker 2: a look at private companies. The way they do that
Speaker 2: is so that the CCP can say it's not us.
Speaker 2: But of course there is really no such thing as
Speaker 2: a private company in China. Why because just like the
Speaker 2: Wagners technically will kill us for hire, we all know
Speaker 2: they were really under Russian control. That's how the CCP
Speaker 2: uses these things. We're basically these network of allegedly private
Speaker 2: companies fiddling around in things like Australian debate is clearly
Speaker 2: being done on the behalf of the government. It goes
Speaker 2: beyond meddling. The end goal is not only to quote
Speaker 2: unquote control the narrative, but to control the infrastructure through
Speaker 2: the means of political discourse. China's goal is to subjugate
Speaker 2: Australia cognitively, to control the narrative and control the way
Speaker 2: Australians think. Hence why I am not on and I
Speaker 2: strongly recommend that you are not on or your kids
Speaker 2: are not on. As fun as the dancing videos might
Speaker 2: be the Chinese surveillance app TikTok, it is why we
Speaker 2: remain critical of a government that would prefer to slide
Speaker 2: up to these people as opposed to stand up to
Speaker 2: them and when they injure members of the Australian Defense Force.
Speaker 2: A couple of quick ones before we get to our
Speaker 2: debate tonight, and I'm ken you know who do you
Speaker 2: think is the winner and loser of the week? Send
Speaker 2: me the email Paultzky News dot com dot Au or
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Speaker 2: ticket with Rex Airlines to fly a regional flight, it
Speaker 2: is now guaranteed by the government. So worst case scenario
Speaker 2: if the airline disappeared, and at this stage there is
Speaker 2: no sign of that happening right now, you would be
Speaker 2: able to get your money back. Why because the federal
Speaker 2: government is now backing them in. The AFL of course,
Speaker 2: has its relationships with TV and radio networks to make
Speaker 2: sure that well it can spread how many people see
Speaker 2: the game and obviously make the majority of money for
Speaker 2: the game from those TV and radio arrangements. A sharp
Speaker 2: eyed person worked out a couple of weeks ago that
Speaker 2: inside some of these details of the contracts with those
Speaker 2: companies was a demand from the AFL for greater diversity
Speaker 2: in the people who cover the game. We're talking about
Speaker 2: everyone from the panel shows all the way through to
Speaker 2: the commentary box.
Speaker 1: Well, today, the CEO of.
Speaker 2: The AFL did an interview on one of the stations
Speaker 2: that has the financial arrangement with the AFL, that being
Speaker 2: three aw and it didn't make any sense.
Speaker 8: Giving fewer middle aged white men like Brian Taylor and
Speaker 8: James Brayshaw and more, I don't know, more indigenous commentators
Speaker 8: more female commentators, more gay commentators.
Speaker 5: What are you actually I.
Speaker 1: Don't think it's less of anything. I think it's just
Speaker 1: more of but it will be not necessarily.
Speaker 5: I just picked the best commentator.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think especially on radio, no one
Speaker 1: cares what they look like or what their background is.
Speaker 8: They just want to know that they're the most interesting
Speaker 8: and well informed football people around.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: But I think you get that time when you have
Speaker 2: a diversity of thought and a diversity of background.
Speaker 1: But in the document is still in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: This may be an unpopular opinion, and I apologize if
Speaker 2: it does offend, but I like the scooters in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Whenever I am luck enough to travel around the country.
Speaker 2: One of the best ways to get around cities if
Speaker 2: you are a tourist or a visitor, are those little scooters. Now, yes,
Speaker 2: some people carry on like pork chops. As best as possible.
Speaker 2: You try to ride them in the bike lanes. You
Speaker 2: shouldn't be trying to scare people, and you should always
Speaker 2: be wearing a helmet all the rest of it. Right,
Speaker 2: They've got them in Brisbane, great way of getting around.
Speaker 2: You can go from the hotel to the movies, the shops.
Speaker 2: It's really cool, right, rather than jumping into the uber
Speaker 2: or the taxi or walking and in Melbourne, I particularly
Speaker 2: really like them. But as you know, decision has been
Speaker 2: made by our mates, the Lord Mayor of Melbourne, Nicholas
Speaker 2: Reese and his counselors do banned to get rid of
Speaker 2: them from the CBD. They're not banned from Victoria. If
Speaker 2: another council wants to take them up, they should.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: There are some places where you might be surprised where
Speaker 2: these scooters are. They've got them in Bunderberg and they're awesome.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: Maybe they be unpopular view but I like them. I'll
Speaker 2: get and find out what Michae Kroger thinks. I think
Speaker 2: you be more than happy that they don't exist anymore. Now,
Speaker 2: good day for Donald Trump. Yes, overall the averages are
Speaker 2: still slightly behind for him, but good day for him.
Speaker 2: Why brand new pole? It's a Fox newspole now the
Speaker 2: most recent of the Fox News poles. Before this actually
Speaker 2: showed Harris in front. It now shows Trump in front.
Speaker 2: Nationally now again the national numbers fifty to forty nine.
Speaker 2: A Republican needs to be sorry. A Democrat needs to
Speaker 2: be at least two to four points up for them
Speaker 2: to be able not just to have big wins in
Speaker 2: New York and California, but also start to win some
Speaker 2: of the swing states. Once you throw in everyone else
Speaker 2: is on the ballot, it becomes forty five forty five,
Speaker 2: so raise a thin but still Harris was up, so
Speaker 2: we may well have hit a bit.
Speaker 1: Of a peek.
Speaker 2: But the really good news for Donald Trump today was
Speaker 2: the issues polling, which much of the narrative media have
Speaker 2: not gone on because they're just on the She's doing
Speaker 2: better than Biden did, but we're basically back to a
Speaker 2: team red team blue race. And after all of that's
Speaker 2: concern and change, the number one issue remains the economy
Speaker 2: thirty eight percent. Immigration and abortion are next. And I've
Speaker 2: told you before, if it's about the economy and immigration,
Speaker 2: trump wins. If it's about abortion, then Harris is going
Speaker 2: to win. But a whole bunch of other things in
Speaker 2: here again start to work Trump's way. In fact, once
Speaker 2: you start to break these things down, look at the
Speaker 2: lead that he has. It's the best part of twenty
Speaker 2: points on the border, it's the best part of fourteen
Speaker 2: points on immigration. On foreign policy, it's seven points.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know how Kamala Harris has been able to
Speaker 2: rebuild herself in terms of management of the economy, but
Speaker 2: he is up and clearly up there as well as
Speaker 2: on crime and on guns. You start to get really
Speaker 2: into fringe issues when you're talking about things like climate
Speaker 2: change and Supreme Court nominations. But again, the significant issues
Speaker 2: of access to healthcare and access to abortion is where
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is currently leading. But Trump, after all of
Speaker 2: the nonsense, the issues.
Speaker 1: Are still in his favor.
Speaker 2: If he can run on the issues, then he is
Speaker 2: a good chance of getting as close as possible to
Speaker 2: the win. But who knows will be in the United
Speaker 2: States when it all takes place, and talk about it
Speaker 2: plenty of times between now and then. But again, another
Speaker 2: good day for Donald Trump because Kamala Harris is expected
Speaker 2: in the next couple of days to announce a whole
Speaker 2: series of motherhood statements about the economy. She will, of course,
Speaker 2: pretend she has nothing to do with the economy that
Speaker 2: people hate under Joe Biden, despite the fact that she
Speaker 2: of course was the one who cast the tie vote
Speaker 2: in the Senate to spend trillions of dollars to whack
Speaker 2: up inflation, no matter what the bill.
Speaker 1: Was actually called. So she can't pretend this didn't.
Speaker 3: Happen on this vote, the years of fifty, the nays
Speaker 3: of fifty, the Senate being equally divided, the vice president
Speaker 3: votes in the affirmative, and the bill as a mandate
Speaker 3: is passed.
Speaker 1: That's a deep think. It's a deep fect. She wasn't involved.
Speaker 1: She's qualified to be president because she was a vice
Speaker 1: president when she didn't do anything.
Speaker 2: Is the vice president she did twice trillions of dollars
Speaker 2: have made everything worse.
Speaker 1: But now I'm going to go.
Speaker 2: After the price gouging because it's the evil billionaires, nothing
Speaker 2: to do with the government.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 2: But again, good for Trump today, Why because again he
Speaker 2: started to show a little bit more discipline. Now those
Speaker 2: of us who would like to see him win because
Speaker 2: we want to stop Harris and all of the crazy
Speaker 2: that's going to come with all of that. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: he gave a rally today and not really a rally
Speaker 2: and economic speech in North Carolina, one of the states
Speaker 2: that he kind of was taken for granted because the
Speaker 2: poles were so good. But he needs to double check
Speaker 2: that it is still going to be in place. So
Speaker 2: he went there and he kind of acted like an
Speaker 2: old school politician. Why because behind him in Allder, the
Speaker 2: speeches today were giant signs about what he was planning
Speaker 2: to do. This would be great because every time he
Speaker 2: says something else, at the very least this message will
Speaker 2: end up on the television. And then he made one
Speaker 2: heck of a promise that I don't know how he
Speaker 2: can deliver it. In fact, I do know how he
Speaker 2: can deliver it, which is basically drill, baby, drill. But
Speaker 2: this promise, this promise is just about as big as
Speaker 2: no tax on tips. Let's watch Kamala try to pretend
Speaker 2: this can be done, but I can't.
Speaker 9: Save announce today that under my leadership, the United States
Speaker 9: will commit to the ambitious goal of slashing energy and
Speaker 9: electricity praiss by half, at least half. We intend to
Speaker 9: slash praices by half within twelve months, at a maximum
Speaker 9: eighteen months.
Speaker 2: He's more likely to do that than Albo, because of
Speaker 2: course Albo wants to spend, of course, a trillion dollars
Speaker 2: of the two seventy five and all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: He's able to make that promise because you just double
Speaker 2: down on the stuff that's worked for generations, and the
Speaker 2: Paris Accord, which means China can do whatever it wants
Speaker 2: till twenty thirty.
Speaker 1: Rip it up.
Speaker 2: Fascinating. He's back in the game winning, not yet morenessing
Speaker 2: so much to get too all shut up because they've
Speaker 2: got plenty to say. The wonderful Michael Kroger is here,
Speaker 2: always there to help.
Speaker 1: Just quickly the.
Speaker 2: Thirty second view on scooters in Melbourne. I say save him,
Speaker 2: You say, dumpham, what do you reckon?
Speaker 1: Couldn't care less?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, there's just a lot of them down there,
Speaker 2: and the wonderful Frailer Leitch from the Center of Independent Studies.
Speaker 1: So let's get to the main game here.
Speaker 2: You've seen some of the reaction and the gallery assumption
Speaker 2: is there's the political consequence becomes quite terrible for Peter
Speaker 2: Dutton because now he sort of becomes the big uga
Speaker 2: booger of Australian politics that they were desperately trying to
Speaker 2: make him. I wouldn't think that's actually going to be
Speaker 2: the political response here. But what did you think of
Speaker 2: day two of this?
Speaker 1: Michael?
Speaker 2: To me, it felt like it was said in a
Speaker 2: more nuanced fashion than it was yesterday.
Speaker 7: Well, look, Peter Dutton is winning on this issue and
Speaker 7: I'll explain to you why, which will become more public
Speaker 7: over the next week or two as to why Dutton
Speaker 7: is winning on this issue. And I'm happy to be corrected,
Speaker 7: and Tony Burke's office hopefully will put out some statistics
Speaker 7: to correct me, and all Australia will benefit from having
Speaker 7: the exact statistics. And I credit Cameron Milner for some
Speaker 7: of these stats. There are one hundred and ninety three
Speaker 7: members of the United Nations. I can only find four
Speaker 7: countries that are taking refugees from Gaza. Four France have
Speaker 7: taken them. France have taken two hundred and sixty but
Speaker 7: you can only apply from the visa if you're in
Speaker 7: Ramala or in Jerusalem, So they've taken none from Gaza. Right,
Speaker 7: those countries which haven't taken and won't take any refugees,
Speaker 7: those racist countries, according to Zali Stegl, include these countries
Speaker 7: have taken zero refugees from Gaza, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq,
Speaker 7: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran, Yemen, Oman, the UAE, Russia, China, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kwait,
Speaker 7: North Korea, Turkey, Germany, France, etc. There's only four who
Speaker 7: appear to have taken refugees. They are the United Kingdom
Speaker 7: in fourth place. They've taken one one. The United States
Speaker 7: have taken sixteen, although last year they took fifty six.
Speaker 7: Canada have taken forty one. So one hundred and ninety
Speaker 7: two members of the United Nations out of one hundred
Speaker 7: and ninety three have taken the title of fifty eight
Speaker 7: refugees from Gaza. Fifty eight, I hope, and I'm sure
Speaker 7: this is wrong, But on the research that I've done
Speaker 7: and others have done, fifty eight Australia two thousand and
Speaker 7: nine and twenty two. What the is going on here?
Speaker 7: What does Tony Burke and Albanezi know that those racists
Speaker 7: leaders of other countries that racist? In Egypt, President el Sisi,
Speaker 7: What does President Elcci, that racist know that Tony Burke
Speaker 7: doesn't know, the racist President Kamenie in Iran who won't
Speaker 7: take any refugees, that racist president and Erduan in Turkey
Speaker 7: who's taking no refugees, and all of us, you know,
Speaker 7: for goodness sake, poor our president Kim John Kim Jong Un,
Speaker 7: the Orange man's friend from hes a racist too from
Speaker 7: North Korea. What is it that Albernizi and Burke know
Speaker 7: that no one else in the world seems to know.
Speaker 7: Why doesn't any enterprising journalist David Crowe stop writing this
Speaker 7: rubbish about Dutton. Go round to the Egyptian embassy, my friend,
Speaker 7: and ask the ambassador why Egypt, which is one meter
Speaker 7: from Israel. You walk straight from Rafa into Egypt, it's
Speaker 7: one meter away. Ask President Alcese's representative in Australia, why
Speaker 7: if you've taken not a single refugee? Go and ask
Speaker 7: the ambassador from Jordan. You know, to gate from Gaza
Speaker 7: to Jerusalem, it's about eighty kilometers right to one hour drive.
Speaker 1: I did it in January.
Speaker 7: And then to get to a man in the capital
Speaker 7: of Jordan's two hour drive. It's about one hundred klometers.
Speaker 7: But you're gonna go through a check board. It's three
Speaker 7: hours to go from Gaza to Jordan. No refugees, none,
Speaker 7: none of those our countries. What do you know, Albo
Speaker 7: that these other one hundred and ninety two countries do
Speaker 7: not know? My friend, this is a national disgrace. Peter
Speaker 7: Dutton is one hundred percent correct. It's not about racism, Zale.
Speaker 1: You fool.
Speaker 7: This is about national security and all credit to Dutton
Speaker 7: and James Patterson. And let me tell you, the working
Speaker 7: middle class in this country are right on Dutton's side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Frey, thank you for the infirm I don't appreciate it. Again.
Speaker 2: The political calculation here again is that the assumption was, oh,
Speaker 2: Dunton has gone too far yesterday.
Speaker 1: Wezali went too far today.
Speaker 2: So we're sort of straight back into this whiplash where
Speaker 2: once you start to why he said what he has said,
Speaker 2: that information starts to back it up and instinctively we
Speaker 2: know Australians are absolute about their border.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly right. You're not racist. If you care
Speaker 6: about national security, you're not racist. If you don't want
Speaker 6: Harmas supporters coming into the country. The fact that you
Speaker 6: can offer rhetorical support for her Maas and that's not
Speaker 6: an issue for ASIO when they're approving of visa, that
Speaker 6: is absolutely disgraceful. And I'm on campus at Sydney UNI
Speaker 6: last week we had a pro Hamas motion get moved.
Speaker 6: It was voted eight hundred to eight. Insane stuff. We're
Speaker 6: already young people in this country are already overwhelmingly at
Speaker 6: our universities pro Hamas. Imagine if we have bad actors
Speaker 6: coming in because we can't stand up for our national security,
Speaker 6: this is only going to inflame the declining social cohesions.
Speaker 2: And look and again all I observed last night and
Speaker 2: I stand by tonight, which is what I'm very sure
Speaker 2: you would all agree with as well, the idea that
Speaker 2: everyone in Palestine is Hamas or its interrelated. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm not there. I can't go there. I want dog
Speaker 2: whistle in that direction. However, I am absolutely okay with
Speaker 2: it being a process for you to come to the country.
Speaker 2: If you go through a proper process, a proper security check,
Speaker 2: well then yes we have a lifeboat.
Speaker 1: It has so many people.
Speaker 2: But if it is disproportioned to the rest of the world,
Speaker 2: as Michael has been pointing out, well be pretty obvious
Speaker 2: how Australians.
Speaker 1: Will react when they learn more of that.
Speaker 2: Now, I want to talk about a couple of other
Speaker 2: quick ones here, including there's a bunch of Coalition MPs
Speaker 2: that are started to say that members of the CFMAU
Speaker 2: should be banned from any polling place in Australia. They
Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to, for want of a better term,
Speaker 2: be the heavies for traditionally the Labor Party. But Michael,
Speaker 2: I think the four hs here is it's more likely
Speaker 2: that they're going to end up being the heavies for
Speaker 2: the Greens because it seems like that's where they're going
Speaker 2: to end up and sort of pushing in that far
Speaker 2: left being their money and their muscle will be more
Speaker 2: than welcome. There's other people that there's other political people
Speaker 2: that will be reaching out for it. I would love
Speaker 2: to see the muscle nowhere near the polling boot.
Speaker 1: But what do you think.
Speaker 7: Well, I've seen many occasions over the years where the
Speaker 7: CFMU have been very intimidatory on polling bers. But I
Speaker 7: don't think you can ban people from attending poly booths
Speaker 7: unless they're guilty of some offense against the candidate. They're
Speaker 7: a threat to the physical safety of a candidate or others.
Speaker 7: It breaches the freedom of association rules in this country.
Speaker 7: So as much as I agree with the sentiment, I
Speaker 7: don't think it can happen unless there are restraining orders
Speaker 7: by candidates or electoral officials against certain CFMU officials. It's
Speaker 7: not going to happen. Although the bigger issue is why
Speaker 7: the Labor Party won't pay back the donation. I mean
Speaker 7: they should pay back this money to the CFMU. I mean,
Speaker 7: forget about some fat old Blake's having too many four
Speaker 7: and twenties standing on a polling booth. What about the millions?
Speaker 7: What about the millions they received from the CFMU won't
Speaker 7: pay back? Who was it? Was it Chris, who's otherwise
Speaker 7: done a good joe up there, said Oh, we've spent
Speaker 7: all the money, which is what we can't pay it back.
Speaker 7: We'll go and get a loan mate, like everybody else,
Speaker 7: go and get a loan done and repay the money.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to a winner and loser. Freyer,
Speaker 1: who is your winter or loser this week?
Speaker 6: Winner this week? It's hard to say. I actually don't know.
Speaker 6: It's been a pretty depressing week all round for loser
Speaker 6: of probably the one hundred and fifty New South Wales
Speaker 6: Council candidates.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you know, well anyway you can't get
Speaker 2: your own house in order.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, Michael, you'll winner, loser.
Speaker 7: Two losers. President Shaffik of Columbia University, who's finally resigned
Speaker 7: allowing campus any Semitism in America a fantastic, fantastic victory,
Speaker 7: and Elbows had another shocker winn of the week. Well,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm partisan, but I think Dutton is winning
Speaker 7: more votes amongst middle Australia than I've seen any opposition
Speaker 7: leader for a long long time. So Peter Dutton is
Speaker 7: the winner of the week.
Speaker 1: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Guys, have a wonderful weekend. Thank you very much much.
Speaker 2: We'll see you again next week or straight after the break.
Speaker 2: The people of the coal industry have had enough, have
Speaker 2: been pushed around, demonized, all the rest of it. They
Speaker 2: start their fight back next Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: watching the coal industry in Australia use something that pays
Speaker 2: a lot of tax employees a lot of people, but
Speaker 2: obviously creates an awful lot of controversy.
Speaker 1: Why because the extreme left would like it gone. They
Speaker 1: aren't going anywhere.
Speaker 2: In fact, they've got a new group to advocate on
Speaker 2: their behalf and a new add to help change hearts
Speaker 2: and minds.
Speaker 1: Australians rely on coal every day.
Speaker 7: They rely on coal to generate power to keep the
Speaker 7: lights on, and to make steel to build homes, schools,
Speaker 7: hospitals and bridges, and to.
Speaker 9: Keep that a central call coming.
Speaker 6: Australia relies on.
Speaker 3: Us, those of us at the coal phase and those
Speaker 3: of us that support them.
Speaker 5: Everyone in our community, whether you were high verse or not.
Speaker 7: When Australians rely on coal, they rely on us co communities.
Speaker 2: Nick Jaws represents a new organization called Coal Australia. Is
Speaker 2: it's only joins us now, what is Coal Australia, mate.
Speaker 8: Ok Paul Cole Australia is a grassroots movement. It's really
Speaker 8: representing our workers, our communities. We've got forty thousand plus
Speaker 8: direct workers in the coal industry in Australia, another court
Speaker 8: three hundred thousand plus additional knock on jobs. The colonistry
Speaker 8: touches an awful lot of people. It's our second biggest
Speaker 8: export industry. It's the biggest export industry in Queensland. It's
Speaker 8: putting one hundred billion dollars into the economy in the
Speaker 8: community every year. It's something we should rightly be proud of.
Speaker 8: So what we're aiming to do is just restore that
Speaker 8: pride in the coal industry and get that message out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Niko talking about the few I did it hosted
Speaker 2: an event for the Qureia mark or to the future
Speaker 2: of the resources sector in Queensland and literally sort of
Speaker 2: after i'd sort of heard sort of a couple of
Speaker 2: people be a little bit cheapy shows, come on, you know,
Speaker 2: chest out, you know, be proud of what you do
Speaker 2: because of what you've put into the economy via as
Speaker 2: you say, employment and taxation. So for this moment to
Speaker 2: be here is I'm happy to see. But also, what
Speaker 2: don't people get about coal? For want of a better term,
Speaker 2: we all understand how the left paints it, but what
Speaker 2: don't people get about it that you'd.
Speaker 1: Like them to know?
Speaker 8: Yeah, as you will, well remember Paul I was on
Speaker 8: that panel on the Future Resources Day, which was a
Speaker 8: fabulous celebration. Look, I think the coal industry has just
Speaker 8: been kind of kicked to the curb a little bit.
Speaker 8: We haven't been in the debate. You know. The Australian
Speaker 8: Coal Association was effectively subsumed in the Minerals Council over
Speaker 8: ten years ago now and sort of effectively snuffed out,
Speaker 8: So we haven't had a voice in the debate. You know,
Speaker 8: coal industry, as I say, employees tens of thousands of
Speaker 8: people directly on hundreds of thousands indirectly, it builds communities,
Speaker 8: and it builds communities that we can be proud of
Speaker 8: people in the industry I speak to and we've done
Speaker 8: some polling and this is this is consistent. They are
Speaker 8: proud of the industry. They just haven't had permission to
Speaker 8: feel that pride and to speak about it. So you know,
Speaker 8: cole also builds the future. We literally our coal creates
Speaker 8: the steel that's building our buildings and our bridges and infrastructure,
Speaker 8: without which you know we wouldn't we wouldn't be here today.
Speaker 8: So you know, it is about restoring that pride, unleashing
Speaker 8: that pride, telling our story. As I say, our workers
Speaker 8: should rightfully be proud of their position in this critical
Speaker 8: industry for Australia.
Speaker 1: So we know that the rough costs cso RO twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: I believe it was.
Speaker 2: They say it's now half the amount, But it's about
Speaker 2: a trialling dollars to move from the system that has
Speaker 2: been around for a while cold a big part of
Speaker 2: that obviously to the new one where they claim coal
Speaker 2: is no part of it. We see that has to
Speaker 2: be paid for somewhere and the cost of transition is
Speaker 2: what we are all living through right now Trump's out
Speaker 2: there saying that he can have their power bills. Clearly
Speaker 2: he's going to have that as part of the mix
Speaker 2: in the US. How important is it to the mix
Speaker 2: here in terms of prices.
Speaker 8: Look, it's critical, Paul. I mean, you know, if you
Speaker 8: hark back only less than ten years ago, electricity prices
Speaker 8: wholesale prices were under fifty dollars a mega what hour
Speaker 8: cold still pumping out of Victoria cheaper than that. You know,
Speaker 8: we've now got to around one hundred and fifty with
Speaker 8: the current system. This quarter has gone up again, so
Speaker 8: we've doubled the triple wholesale electricity prices on the back
Speaker 8: of real energy targets and also turning her back on
Speaker 8: the cheapest, lowest cost, most reliable form of energy we've got.
Speaker 8: So you know, it's a critical part of the mix.
Speaker 8: It will remain a part of the mix. Energy demand
Speaker 8: is incre and you know, as you may well know, globally,
Speaker 8: eighty two percent of energy, total energy, not just electricity,
Speaker 8: is provided by Colon and gow I've got to Joel
Speaker 8: being the biggest part of that. In Australia it's ninety
Speaker 8: one percent. So you know it ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Nick, appreciate it. Sorry to go, I've got
Speaker 2: to get out of the way for the late debate.
Speaker 2: Thank you, mate, appreciate it. All the best with the efforts.
Speaker 2: All right, have a great weekend. I won't be here
Speaker 2: on Sunday Leo's birthday, so go Yankees.
Speaker 1: See you Monday.