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Speaker 3: For the record.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Clink. This is season sixteen, and

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Speaker 3: I just want to say a massive shout out to

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Speaker 3: everybody out there that weekly downloads and listens. Today's guest

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Speaker 3: is a four time K one well sorry I shouldn't

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Speaker 3: say ky one kickboxing world champion and has fought at

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Speaker 3: He is known to many out there as Andre the

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Speaker 3: Giant Muniere and today he's on the Clink and I

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Speaker 3: must say I'm a little bit starstruck and I'm pumped.

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Speaker 3: Welcome fuck mate, Thanks for coming on, Thank.

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Speaker 4: You for having me much appreciated.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to sort of sound like a dickhead here,

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Speaker 3: but you know I hear you still saying that, you know,

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Speaker 3: second guest, should I be here? Should have be fucking

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Speaker 3: if you should have fucking been there, and you deservingly

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Speaker 3: because you know, to even be given that opportunity, you

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Speaker 3: They know what it takes, they know what they must

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Speaker 3: there to make money and to sell. Yes, okay, it's

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you've experienced. So I don't want to be

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Speaker 3: assuming that you know a bigger name. You talk about

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Speaker 4: Then I think, because I'm very humble and I'm very

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Speaker 4: He showed through he chopped the hellr but sharing the

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Speaker 4: I had? I just always thought, you know, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: So he started to feel guilty about your numbers you're

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Speaker 4: Had a couple of people think you're dirty. There's a

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Speaker 5: I get knocked out and I'm smiling. What's wrong with

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and did you find that we did? It

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Speaker 4: I agree. I was that I was at the fights

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Speaker 4: He goes, well, I'm sure I would have been getting

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Speaker 4: being you know, just I don't say no. I don't care,

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Speaker 3: That tells you straight away. Though the mindset of that

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Speaker 3: what I mean, are you fighting bums then to get

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And can I look at him like Paul's girls

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Speaker 4: Hevy knocked me out. Yeah fuck he got me. But

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Speaker 4: Fuck that, I'll fight. That's what you for?

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Speaker 3: Who was your fights in your later later years? And

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Speaker 4: Ship a couple of I think they're just a couple of honors.

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Speaker 4: Who I fight? I thought for them that he's about

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Speaker 4: box his head get put on this point. You can't.

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Speaker 4: You go overseas, you're fuck it up in lights, and

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Speaker 4: to himself, it's it's a you know, it's a big

429
00:21:18,681 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 4: it's a big dedication. You know, I think, fun, we're

430
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 4: going to have to put life and hold a little

431
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,521
Speaker 4: bit again. You know, I've just had a sixteen month

432
00:21:26,521 --> 00:21:28,641
Speaker 4: old son. Now you know, we're going to see him

433
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,761
Speaker 4: a little bit less or you know, because he's training

434
00:21:30,801 --> 00:21:33,281
Speaker 4: so much, because it's it's fucking full pelp training. You've

435
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,921
Speaker 4: you've got to be especially as you get older, you've

436
00:21:35,921 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 4: got to be so much fitt because these young blokes

437
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 4: you be fighting people younger, they've just got it naturally better,

438
00:21:40,441 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 4: you know, better in themselves to be fit and all that.

439
00:21:43,001 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 4: And I still struggle with because I want to And

440
00:21:44,721 --> 00:21:47,001
Speaker 4: then I got a bit of sparring or you know,

441
00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 4: I go down and hit the bag and I fucking

442
00:21:48,721 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 4: still look all right, it still feel good, and it

443
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 4: does it battles my head all the time. And and

444
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 4: with money as well, you think, funk, we're gonna have

445
00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:56,641
Speaker 4: a couple of little quick fights, a couple of money back,

446
00:21:56,801 --> 00:21:59,001
Speaker 4: there's a holiday from a family, or there's money put

447
00:21:59,001 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 4: away from my family. Yeah, we sweat. We don't have

448
00:22:01,721 --> 00:22:03,441
Speaker 4: to stress. I don't have to go back to concrete

449
00:22:03,441 --> 00:22:06,761
Speaker 4: and work fucking twelve hour days just to make shit money,

450
00:22:06,801 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So that's that's huge for

451
00:22:09,921 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 4: me at the moment. I'll go.

452
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,801
Speaker 3: I can see it in your eyes, brother, and I

453
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: mean this sincerely. I can see there's a bit of

454
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: pain in there, and it's probably a bittersweet for you

455
00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: because you know, like we get it. You know we

456
00:22:22,721 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 3: can be the best we can be, and we can

457
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 3: be at the top of our game. And when it's

458
00:22:27,041 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 3: at your core, you choose that enough's enough for you know,

459
00:22:30,201 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: your body can't go any further, whatever it might be.

460
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,521
Speaker 3: You accept that, you know, and you accept that that's

461
00:22:36,561 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 3: the end of your career for you. You live in

462
00:22:39,681 --> 00:22:43,201
Speaker 3: the dream. The world's at your feet. Whatever however you've

463
00:22:43,201 --> 00:22:45,601
Speaker 3: gotten there, you're fucking there, you know what I mean.

464
00:22:45,681 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: People want to have you and and I'm sure that

465
00:22:49,041 --> 00:22:51,321
Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't millions of dollars, but I'm sure

466
00:22:51,321 --> 00:22:53,041
Speaker 3: that there was plenty of money enough for you to

467
00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:57,161
Speaker 3: live and support your family. And yet there's no compensation,

468
00:22:57,281 --> 00:23:00,761
Speaker 3: there's no help, there's no support, there's nothing. It's just Andrea,

469
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 3: it's over, like you're a full time world champion. But

470
00:23:04,521 --> 00:23:09,881
Speaker 3: yet you didn't get to shut the door on your terms.

471
00:23:10,721 --> 00:23:14,361
Speaker 3: And I can't help but think how hard it would Ben,

472
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: As I say, I see it in your face, in

473
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: your eyes when you speak like that, bro, And.

474
00:23:19,241 --> 00:23:24,601
Speaker 4: It's very hard, and it's hard to especially when you're

475
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,281
Speaker 4: going through some tough times and you know, if you

476
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:28,321
Speaker 4: had one or two fights, that's going to put enough

477
00:23:28,321 --> 00:23:31,321
Speaker 4: money on your plate and pay things for a few months.

478
00:23:31,321 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 4: And they used to be the way you did it,

479
00:23:33,481 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 4: you know, and when you sort of you're in a

480
00:23:37,001 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: bit of a type of position. Even though I'm older

481
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,201
Speaker 4: and forty eight now I can still go mix it,

482
00:23:41,241 --> 00:23:42,921
Speaker 4: but I still get that money. I'm going to get paid.

483
00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:45,161
Speaker 4: I'm going to get that money there, you know, And

484
00:23:45,201 --> 00:23:46,801
Speaker 4: that's that's hard to deal with it, and it's hard

485
00:23:46,801 --> 00:23:48,321
Speaker 4: to deal with not being able to end it on

486
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 4: my terms. How I wanted to turn. If I went

487
00:23:50,241 --> 00:23:52,801
Speaker 4: and had the last fight, the last two rah whatever,

488
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,761
Speaker 4: and I got knocked out or I knocked someone out,

489
00:23:56,041 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 4: I'm happy. That's me. I'm done on my ease. But

490
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: beginning having this COVID ship. Yeah, you know, I did

491
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,761
Speaker 4: COVID and the fucking will getting shut down, like we

492
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,321
Speaker 4: all it fraud. I get that problem. And it was just, yeah,

493
00:24:08,321 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 4: it's just a ship way to sort of end. So

494
00:24:10,321 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: I think that sort of niggles at me, as well

495
00:24:12,001 --> 00:24:16,281
Speaker 4: as financial sort of issues too, you know, stepping from

496
00:24:16,321 --> 00:24:18,201
Speaker 4: COVID and all that ship. So I think that sort

497
00:24:18,201 --> 00:24:20,681
Speaker 4: of yeah, eats you up a little bit.

498
00:24:20,921 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: And I mean, I'm going to ask you the obvious

499
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna thinking of it. Is Is it something that

500
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,521
Speaker 3: is a possibility. Will we see the big man come

501
00:24:28,561 --> 00:24:29,321
Speaker 3: back for one more?

502
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 4: I said it if if I'm offered the last time

503
00:24:33,721 --> 00:24:36,801
Speaker 4: I got offered someone, I said, yeah, but I want

504
00:24:37,201 --> 00:24:39,161
Speaker 4: I know what they're getting paid. I know what these

505
00:24:39,961 --> 00:24:41,721
Speaker 4: I want to be paid. To Conley, if you use guys,

506
00:24:41,761 --> 00:24:45,001
Speaker 4: come to somewhere close to this figure I'm in, I'll

507
00:24:45,001 --> 00:24:47,001
Speaker 4: put my life and I'll get back to the training

508
00:24:47,321 --> 00:24:49,561
Speaker 4: properly and all that, and I'll do it. But if

509
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 4: I'm not going to get paid, I'm not going to

510
00:24:50,921 --> 00:24:55,201
Speaker 4: come out and get fucking paid pennies to put myself

511
00:24:55,201 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 4: on the line and fight. Even though anyone would be

512
00:24:58,761 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 4: these days, I'm not going to do it. It's going

513
00:25:01,521 --> 00:25:03,321
Speaker 4: to be done. And I want an incentive too. I

514
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: want to know something to really take up and give

515
00:25:05,521 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: me big drive. You know, your family issues you had

516
00:25:08,241 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 4: when you're a kid, all that year, that's drive. But

517
00:25:10,481 --> 00:25:12,721
Speaker 4: I'm a bit older now I want another. I want another,

518
00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:14,721
Speaker 4: bigger drive. I want you know, I want that big

519
00:25:14,761 --> 00:25:17,721
Speaker 4: paycheck you know, or a decent paycheck to do it.

520
00:25:17,921 --> 00:25:19,561
Speaker 4: You know, why are you coming and talking to me

521
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,641
Speaker 4: when I'm forty eight and want to me to fight?

522
00:25:21,681 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 4: Because you know I'll put bumps on seats. You know,

523
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,241
Speaker 4: I'll serve it. I'll give it a crap. Either he's

524
00:25:25,241 --> 00:25:26,681
Speaker 4: get knocked out or I'm geting knocked out.

525
00:25:26,721 --> 00:25:29,001
Speaker 3: Somebody's going to make an urn off you, full stop.

526
00:25:29,921 --> 00:25:32,201
Speaker 3: So bring you along for the ride and together make

527
00:25:32,281 --> 00:25:35,001
Speaker 3: the urn and let's get a good fucking show with

528
00:25:35,201 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 3: you know, you being able to fulfill your heart and

529
00:25:37,441 --> 00:25:41,001
Speaker 3: your dream. I'm going to be the devil's advocate here

530
00:25:41,001 --> 00:25:43,401
Speaker 3: because I know you're probably your wife will probably throw

531
00:25:43,481 --> 00:25:45,801
Speaker 3: stones at me for fire and this up. And please,

532
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 3: I know she's going to be listening at some stage

533
00:25:48,201 --> 00:25:50,641
Speaker 3: of this. I'm trying not to upset the family here,

534
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:56,241
Speaker 3: but what what an awesome, what an awesome thing it

535
00:25:56,281 --> 00:26:00,441
Speaker 3: would be to see you come back. You know, you

536
00:26:00,481 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: were stopped as a world champion. You weren't stopped as

537
00:26:03,201 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: a loser. You weren't stopped at a bum. You weren't

538
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,041
Speaker 3: stopped as someone that couldn't have come back out. You

539
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: had a contract where it still had two fights to go.

540
00:26:10,321 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: So obviously somebody believed that you were able to fulfill

541
00:26:13,681 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: that contract. Somebody give you this opportunity and if you're willing,

542
00:26:18,681 --> 00:26:20,561
Speaker 3: which I know that you are, and see the smile

543
00:26:20,561 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 3: in your face. And I'm not trying, like I said

544
00:26:22,441 --> 00:26:25,961
Speaker 3: for and I'm please pray I don't get no messages

545
00:26:25,961 --> 00:26:27,561
Speaker 3: from your wife saying why did they get him go?

546
00:26:28,721 --> 00:26:32,001
Speaker 3: But but in all honesty for you as a man,

547
00:26:33,561 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 3: and I mean that because we do need to you know, like,

548
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: I'm definitely at no level that you were. But I

549
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,801
Speaker 3: come out of a time and played rugby league two

550
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,961
Speaker 3: years ago and they threw this fucking ankle bracelet on me,

551
00:26:45,001 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: you know, like to play for my sons. I was

552
00:26:46,441 --> 00:26:49,521
Speaker 3: the oldest registered front rower in Queensland and I was

553
00:26:49,521 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: out there mixing it at forty six years of age.

554
00:26:52,801 --> 00:26:56,281
Speaker 3: If I I would jump the ropes and I would

555
00:26:56,481 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: fight and I would have more multi files without a doubt,

556
00:26:59,721 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent would go into fight camp. And

557
00:27:02,201 --> 00:27:04,281
Speaker 3: it's not for me. It's not about the money or

558
00:27:04,321 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: the accolades, because I'm not at that level where you know,

559
00:27:06,961 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: where you would be negotiating on an instead of a

560
00:27:09,281 --> 00:27:12,121
Speaker 3: monetary base, but as a man for me to fulfill

561
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,801
Speaker 3: where I finished and where I wanted to be through

562
00:27:16,801 --> 00:27:21,521
Speaker 3: no fould on my own, I was also stopped and

563
00:27:21,681 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: I often, you know, I struggle to go back to

564
00:27:24,241 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: my family gym now you know, and going there and

565
00:27:27,281 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: I was a bad hod. I'll become a trainer, you know,

566
00:27:29,201 --> 00:27:32,281
Speaker 3: like those sort of things are great. I'm still want

567
00:27:32,321 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: to fight, I want to have I just it's just

568
00:27:36,481 --> 00:27:38,521
Speaker 3: it's just something that I just need to do, you

569
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,001
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I'm not satisfied and I don't

570
00:27:41,041 --> 00:27:44,881
Speaker 3: care whether I get knocked like yourself, but it's it's

571
00:27:44,961 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: just a thing with internally self satisfaction, I think, and

572
00:27:48,801 --> 00:27:52,041
Speaker 3: I can't imagine how you must feel, you know, being

573
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,801
Speaker 3: at a different level, the feelings the same, but you know,

574
00:27:54,961 --> 00:27:57,801
Speaker 3: on that worldly level and being a world champion, I

575
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,761
Speaker 3: feel that, you know, it's something that probably you would

576
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,761
Speaker 3: want to fulfill.

577
00:28:02,561 --> 00:28:05,321
Speaker 4: Definitely an amazing life. There's a bunch of shit doesn't

578
00:28:05,321 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: want me to fight. She'll say no, no, no no.

579
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 4: If I actually did and I was seriously and I

580
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,761
Speaker 4: pulled the trigger on it and I wanted to do it,

581
00:28:11,761 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: should be backing me one hundred percent and just be okay, well,

582
00:28:15,481 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 4: you know, I'm pretty headstrong. I'm going to do what

583
00:28:17,201 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: I want to do. But like I said, she's amazing.

584
00:28:19,961 --> 00:28:24,241
Speaker 4: You should should back me without a doubt. And yeah,

585
00:28:24,681 --> 00:28:26,641
Speaker 4: to answer your question, you know I would. I would

586
00:28:26,681 --> 00:28:29,001
Speaker 4: do it, you know, and as well as you say yes,

587
00:28:29,201 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: the prize money and all that would be nice whatever,

588
00:28:31,481 --> 00:28:33,521
Speaker 4: But I like to as you know, you want to

589
00:28:33,561 --> 00:28:35,681
Speaker 4: challenge yourself a little bit too. The challenge would be good.

590
00:28:35,721 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 4: The challenge would be good if to see if I

591
00:28:37,281 --> 00:28:41,161
Speaker 4: still got enough to even step in the ring with someone.

592
00:28:41,041 --> 00:28:43,121
Speaker 3: Now, you know, so see that to me, that's where

593
00:28:43,481 --> 00:28:46,361
Speaker 3: you know, I refer back to me. Your inspire You

594
00:28:46,401 --> 00:28:49,601
Speaker 3: inspire me. You know I've watched you for some time

595
00:28:49,681 --> 00:28:52,521
Speaker 3: and to have you on today it has been a

596
00:28:52,521 --> 00:28:54,961
Speaker 3: bit of a starring moment. I ain't get real too

597
00:28:54,961 --> 00:28:57,441
Speaker 3: fussed because you know, I've had the pleasure of meeting

598
00:28:57,481 --> 00:29:00,201
Speaker 3: a lot of great people and as a blow from

599
00:29:00,201 --> 00:29:02,761
Speaker 3: the Bronx as well. Mate, you know, our life leads

600
00:29:02,841 --> 00:29:04,961
Speaker 3: us on pars. Have you never ever dreamed? And imagine

601
00:29:05,121 --> 00:29:11,361
Speaker 3: and the people that you meet, and I would like

602
00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:13,601
Speaker 3: to see it. I'm sure many many others would love

603
00:29:13,601 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: to see you finish on your note, just just for

604
00:29:16,321 --> 00:29:19,081
Speaker 3: you and your family, you know, And I think that

605
00:29:19,121 --> 00:29:22,561
Speaker 3: you're so deserving of that. And if you're fucking listening

606
00:29:22,601 --> 00:29:26,241
Speaker 3: out there, get that giant back in the ring, all

607
00:29:26,281 --> 00:29:28,521
Speaker 3: the square or the octor gone, whatever the fuck you

608
00:29:28,561 --> 00:29:31,161
Speaker 3: want to do. Would you go to have a ban knuckle?

609
00:29:31,361 --> 00:29:32,481
Speaker 3: Would you do a bre knuckle?

610
00:29:34,321 --> 00:29:39,801
Speaker 4: Get the check books out, I'll except big care and everything,

611
00:29:41,041 --> 00:29:43,281
Speaker 4: you know what. I've been looking at it like a lot,

612
00:29:43,321 --> 00:29:45,121
Speaker 4: and my hands are a little bit busted up, but

613
00:29:45,201 --> 00:29:47,841
Speaker 4: you know what, fucking oath the crack at it.

614
00:29:48,241 --> 00:29:50,161
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I think the money

615
00:29:50,201 --> 00:29:52,321
Speaker 3: there at the moment what's going on behind the scene.

616
00:29:52,361 --> 00:29:54,761
Speaker 3: There's some big dollars getting around, you know, and a

617
00:29:54,761 --> 00:29:56,401
Speaker 3: lot of fighters are opted to go that way.

618
00:29:56,481 --> 00:29:58,041
Speaker 4: Well, if I get a phone call from them, yeah,

619
00:29:58,081 --> 00:30:00,361
Speaker 4: it's on. Like I said, fighting, whether it's closing, you go.

620
00:30:00,481 --> 00:30:06,041
Speaker 3: You heard it first here on the Clink. Wow, brother,

621
00:30:06,121 --> 00:30:08,201
Speaker 3: I just want to ask you and look, it's it's

622
00:30:08,241 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: it is getting late, and I've thoroughly enjoyed this and

623
00:30:10,801 --> 00:30:12,601
Speaker 3: you are a family man, and it's a Sunday, so

624
00:30:12,641 --> 00:30:14,921
Speaker 3: I'm not going to hold you for any longer. And

625
00:30:14,961 --> 00:30:19,601
Speaker 3: I truly am really grateful. But the Clink is about stories,

626
00:30:19,801 --> 00:30:22,761
Speaker 3: you know, of inspiration and redemption and stuff like that,

627
00:30:22,841 --> 00:30:26,761
Speaker 3: and hearing your story it is one that you know,

628
00:30:27,041 --> 00:30:30,441
Speaker 3: brings a lot of I guess light to somebody who

629
00:30:30,481 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: doesn't feel that they can do things in life and

630
00:30:32,521 --> 00:30:35,441
Speaker 3: achieve things. You know, you're the epitome of that. You've

631
00:30:35,441 --> 00:30:37,441
Speaker 3: done it, you do it, and you're still doing it. Mate.

632
00:30:37,441 --> 00:30:41,601
Speaker 3: Congratulations to you. What would you say to that person

633
00:30:41,641 --> 00:30:44,361
Speaker 3: out there today that he's struggling that doesn't believe in

634
00:30:44,401 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: themselves or you know, doesn't think that they should be

635
00:30:48,041 --> 00:30:48,881
Speaker 3: where they are.

636
00:30:51,561 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: Speak to speak to someone you know, get confidence in

637
00:30:55,041 --> 00:30:57,281
Speaker 4: talking to people, and don't ever be embarrassed by about

638
00:30:57,281 --> 00:31:01,761
Speaker 4: anything you know and feeling feeling that you're not good enough,

639
00:31:01,841 --> 00:31:05,561
Speaker 4: or feeling that like I myself should have been there

640
00:31:05,641 --> 00:31:09,001
Speaker 4: or any part like that, or there's as bad as

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Speaker 4: times you go through, pick the best part of it

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00:31:10,801 --> 00:31:13,881
Speaker 4: out of there because there's always better times and pick

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00:31:13,921 --> 00:31:16,041
Speaker 4: the best things. Like we spoke before, if what I

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00:31:16,081 --> 00:31:19,561
Speaker 4: went through helped my son or helped anyone else that

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00:31:19,601 --> 00:31:22,761
Speaker 4: I've spoken to about it, then you know where and

646
00:31:23,121 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: you can always they may what you went through. Everyone

647
00:31:25,721 --> 00:31:29,281
Speaker 4: can always help someone and always can tell someone there

648
00:31:29,361 --> 00:31:33,681
Speaker 4: because everyone's problems are different, and everyone's way they beat

649
00:31:33,721 --> 00:31:37,121
Speaker 4: their problems or manage their problems or everyone has put

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00:31:37,161 --> 00:31:39,361
Speaker 4: it is different and that might not help me, but

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00:31:39,401 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: it might help someone else. So yeah, just you know,

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00:31:44,321 --> 00:31:46,561
Speaker 4: as much as I say, like I don't believe myself,

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00:31:46,801 --> 00:31:48,761
Speaker 4: I did believe myself to give it a crack. So

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00:31:48,961 --> 00:31:53,681
Speaker 4: believe in yourself. And maybe there's a lot of everyone's here,

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00:31:53,801 --> 00:31:56,641
Speaker 4: you know, and you believe in yourself, you'll see everyone

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00:31:56,681 --> 00:31:58,641
Speaker 4: come out of the woodworks and believe you and will be

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00:31:58,641 --> 00:32:00,801
Speaker 4: there for you, you know, So just give it a crack.

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00:32:00,841 --> 00:32:02,881
Speaker 4: And what what do you got to lose? You goten

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Speaker 4: fucking lose. Give it a crack and see where you get.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I love that. I love that you've

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00:32:07,921 --> 00:32:10,681
Speaker 3: heard it first look. I just I really want to

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00:32:11,921 --> 00:32:14,081
Speaker 3: get the fuck back in that ring, mate and finish

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Speaker 3: it on your terms. Brother, you are a multiple world champion.

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Speaker 3: You are an inspiration and Andre, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for coming and joining me this afternoon on the clink

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Speaker 3: made It's an honor, and I look forward to staying

667
00:32:27,961 --> 00:32:30,281
Speaker 3: in touch with you. I would love that if we could,

668
00:32:30,321 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: and please, if this does happen, I would love to

669
00:32:34,201 --> 00:32:36,441
Speaker 3: have you back at some stage and you know, talk

670
00:32:36,481 --> 00:32:39,361
Speaker 3: about this next part of your life. I mean, look,

671
00:32:39,401 --> 00:32:41,201
Speaker 3: it seems like that there is a door that could

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00:32:41,281 --> 00:32:44,641
Speaker 3: possibly open, and you obviously know what it takes and

673
00:32:44,961 --> 00:32:48,761
Speaker 3: you're looking fit. So brother, from me to you, I

674
00:32:48,801 --> 00:32:51,801
Speaker 3: truly hope that you do get what you deserve, and

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Speaker 3: that is that opportunity to finish it on your note.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you for giving us platform to share

677
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Speaker 4: our stories and open up all these things. You know,

678
00:33:01,401 --> 00:33:04,961
Speaker 4: doing that is amazing. You know you're a mad cat.

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Speaker 3: Your legend, I've a legend yourself. Now, Guys, if you

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Speaker 3: wanted to jump over to Andrea's pages and give him

681
00:33:10,841 --> 00:33:12,841
Speaker 3: a bit of support and follow. Let's fire this up

682
00:33:12,881 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: a bit and get somebody out there to get this

683
00:33:14,601 --> 00:33:17,481
Speaker 3: man back over those ropes. Where can everybody find you?

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Speaker 4: Instagram? Facebook, and or Andre underscore two on Instagram? Yeah,

685
00:33:26,841 --> 00:33:27,721
Speaker 4: I'm not hard to find.

686
00:33:35,481 --> 00:33:37,241
Speaker 3: Will just step out of his fucking skin.

687
00:33:37,681 --> 00:33:39,321
Speaker 4: I had to give you one back to give you one.

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Speaker 3: Where's that? Wow? There you guys, And I'll put the

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Speaker 3: link in on my platform so you can follow me

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00:33:48,801 --> 00:33:53,721
Speaker 3: on the clip podcast on Instagram and well, I don't

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Speaker 3: like the post on Facebook, but it does link in,

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Speaker 3: and guys, I'll definitely have all the links in there.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to episode one of

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Speaker 3: season sixteen. We have many more to come the fantastic day.

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Speaker 3: Be the best you can be.

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Speaker 4: M hmmm