1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to L three sixty rather League from every angle, 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: brought to you by NIV joining me Queensland, Great Gordon 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Talas and you've done it again. The guys from in 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: the Morions Jerseys haves won a stunning victory over New 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: South Wales. Very dominant display. 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Are very good Gordy, Yeah, billionaires. Boys did a great job. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Obviously always a tough place to win. New South Wales 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: picked a very strong, powerful side and obviously New South 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Wales with a man down but strange game for Queensland, 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: but still good enough to get the job done. They 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: sure were a great performance. There was a great performance 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: and they're in fine formed. The Maroons head to Melbourne 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: with the. 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Chance to wrap up the series after a dominant display 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: at the Course Stadium. As we take a look at 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: the jim Bean Origin Rap. 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: Origin one, we are ready for action at out Core Stadium. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: The Maroons trying to make it three series wins on 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: the Trots. 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: It's Jerry Evans. 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: In behind them Hunt. He flies through the air and 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: scores for Queensland walls. 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: You have to cage Bosh'm absolutely leveled by Simile. He's 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: an enormous amount of trouble. 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: I'll keep my feelings about that to myself. Oh and 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: that might be a huge problem for Joseph Swali. Oh 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: direct contact with the head off. 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: Oh y, that was a tough one. Now, I didn't 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: expect him to get sent off. I'm being honest. 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: New South Wales down to twelve men for the remainder 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: of the game. 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: It's a disappointed to scene him get sent off. But 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: they called that and that's ways. 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's a big call. 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: This at this level, it's. 36 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: Nothing doing for Luai. So he comes back to the 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: middle Brothers fakes at Desco who will play it down 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: dem a man. New South Wales have responded, so hops 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: it there for Cobo keeps it going to Lungey. They 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: found the space they've got to. There are plus of 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 3: numbers here and Hamiso tap Uy Feedo Pobo is away 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: once again. Bend's away from Lomax, gives it to the 43 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: lay There are Maroons everywhere, why not give it to 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: Hamiso Tapuay for Doe again thirteen on twelve pines will 45 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: go ahead wine for Lomax who has the leaf, comes 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: down with it and scores for the Blues in New 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: South Wales strike first and they had to oh, oh, 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: it's Martin again. Robinson forces a mistake. Queensland turn it 49 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: over again. The men men down the fight. The passioner's 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: real strongestess I says, it's tough to warn again. Ben Hunt, 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: leaving in traffic, gets away from Tedesco hunts. They go 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: the length of the field. Ben Hunt scores. 53 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Again, get a double origin. It's that's something I'm going 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: to remember a long time. 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: Here's Hines Yo straight to Cherry Evans and in accept 56 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: Cherry Evans kicks coach blooming up, brilliant win the race 57 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: for Queensland. I'm always proud of this footy team. 58 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 5: Could imagine what five point five million people above. 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: The border there are feeling about their footy team. Here 60 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: is Dad and he's got tapui for dough. He's smiling 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: as he runs away and scores his first origin, had 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: trick getting one. 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: Is he's scored at three? 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: Yes, I got the celebrations already beginning for Queensland. As 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: the siren sounds they've taken down the Blues thirty eight. 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 4: Points to ten. 67 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: A great win, A dominant win by Queensland thirty eight 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: points to ten. But there was a highly controversial moment 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: that had a huge impact on the game. It'sween the 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: jonas in Buzz Rothfield and James Whoper. Let's ge straight 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: to it. It's not been around the bush. This has 72 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: divided the rugby league world over the past twenty four hours. 73 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: A lot of people having opinions on this call. And 74 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Joseph Sawley, how do we see it? 75 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: I don't know while we're even having a debate. I 76 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: thought he had to go. 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 5: We had a national television audience, We had four million people, 78 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 5: not all rugby league people watching the game. A marqueed player, 79 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 5: the face of Queensland brutally taken out an illegal hit 80 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: shoulder of the head. 81 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely, no question. It was a sendoff. 82 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 6: What do you think it's yeah, both in the modern game, 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 6: it's direct contact with the head. 84 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: It's forceful. 85 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 7: Joseph's left his feet. 86 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 6: Yes, Reese Walsh was slipping, so there is an element 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 6: that that also needs to be factored in. But I 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 6: commend the referee Ashley client. I think he showed a 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 6: serious set of stones on that stage with so much 90 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 6: intense focus on this contest and what it means to 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 6: both states, to make that call in the eighth minute 92 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 6: of match it takes a lot of conviction and intestinal fortitude, 93 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 6: and he showed it. 94 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people have it upside down. 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: It's our greatest show piece because of players like Grease. 96 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: There is no popular player than him. You don't want 97 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: to lose anybody to injury. And with that tackle, is 98 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: it an accident? 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: Maybe? 100 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 7: Is it not? 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: He's gone out the force, you know, and no one 102 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: likes seeing Joey and he's the boom match go. But 103 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 2: he hit him in the head and it's a sendoff, 104 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: and people saying, oh, it's stay of Oregon. So your 105 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: brain right is less important than a state of origin 106 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: than there's a club level, a club level, send him 107 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: off a brain trauma in state of Oregon and go he's. 108 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Allowed to stay on the fix. It's tough one because 109 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: really in a club game, it's a sendoff straight away. 110 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: We know that, and which one protect the player and 111 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: protect the player's head. So and if you're a new 112 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: South Welshman and it was one of your players, you're 113 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: saying send off. But my thing with this is there 114 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: is mitigating circumstances. But still it was enough for him 115 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: to be sent I believe. But he was slipping and 116 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: he lost his feet before he threw the pass wal 117 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: he had already been set to tackle him, and you 118 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: watch it. He completely loses his feet. So Swali was 119 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: you can see there like he's passing the balls. Joseph 120 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: hasn't even got to him. He's not even his feet 121 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: is slipping sliding into the tackle. So there are mitigating 122 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: circumstances here. And for me, always with a sendoff and 123 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: with origin being as big as it is normally, it's 124 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: when a pier is with intent going to take someone's 125 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: head off intentionally. 126 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: Okay, you make something. There's some great points there and 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: you're correct with all of them. You watch Leam Martin's 128 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: hit in the second half on Hopgood flies that with 129 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: the same intent, hits him just as hard hurts. 130 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: Hop Good, and what happened? Where does he hit him? 131 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: But what happened? 132 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: But if hop Good slipped, he hits him in the guts, 133 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: He hits him in the ribs. So he's like a 134 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: great defender. His tackle technique is lower, but he. 135 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: Too severe though, couldn't have been ten in the bin though. 136 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 5: But but you are arguing a slip of the feet 137 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 5: by Reese Walsh on a rugby league field in every 138 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 5: game every week, players will slip on slippery services. Now 139 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: that doesn't mean he has to leave himself open to 140 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 5: be knocked out in the manner in which he was. 141 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm not arguing that he shouldn't have been sent I'm 142 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: just saying there are many gating circumstances and I worry 143 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: about the game as well as head knocks. I worry 144 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: about the game. It's origin. You've got families that are 145 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: paying hundreds of dollars to be there, and you could 146 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: argue that after seven and a half minutes, I believe 147 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: the game was over and possibly, I'd say most likely 148 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: the series. I was there with the punters last night, 149 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: listening to what the punters had to see, watching people 150 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: leave at halftime at an orangin match. You know, like 151 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: we do need to protect the actual game as well, 152 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: like that they actually and I. 153 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 5: Don't want to keep interrupting, and it's far more important 154 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 5: to protect ma Reice Walsh and superstars like him, who 155 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 5: was knocked unconscious against Penrith by May earlier this year. 156 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 5: He was not unconscious again last night. We're not even 157 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: halfway through the season. He is the face of rugby 158 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 5: league I get it, and. 159 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Why couldn't you think they're targeting? 160 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: Why couldn't I'll get to that. Why couldn't they just 161 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: tend in the bin? 162 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 7: I'm just that was a referee call. 163 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 6: That was a referee call, he said immediately as soon 164 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 6: as he saw it unfold live, he said, I'm thinking send. 165 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 6: And then the bunker was obviously also involved in reviewing the. 166 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: Situation, and Queenslanders would have thought it'd be unfair on 167 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: them when you lose a superstar like that the whole 168 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: game for foul play and someone gets ten minutes. 169 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: I think we need to change it. I think we 170 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: need to protect the game in all aspects. So maybe 171 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: lose Joey, bring a replace. That's when he comes on 172 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: after activate the man after a certain time. In the 173 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: rugby Union with a recard, a player goes off for 174 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: twenty minutes and then they can bring a player off 175 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: the bench. So I think we need to look at 176 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: it because no. 177 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 5: No, brace, we have to make tackles like that not happen. 178 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 5: We need massive hold on just be finished. We need 179 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 5: massive deterrents for players like Joseph Swalo. He to launch himself. 180 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: And if you know. I'll build him high. 181 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 4: I'll go off in. 182 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: Four or five weeks bus but. 183 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 4: The team, his team doesn't get effected. 184 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: If you're they should be effected. But I don't know 185 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: about since nine eight is that has that been a 186 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: send off since, well, it. 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: Should be in today's game. 188 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: Is nothing to do with what you brought. It hasn't 189 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: been a set of since. 190 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 4: It's got nothing to do with what you want. 191 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: Back back up. We just said rushing up, and there 192 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: hasn't been since. Well it should be, yes, it should 193 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: be now, but it hasn't been. No, it happened. 194 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 5: But but you're I don't know why you're blowing up 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 5: about going back. We're in the modern era week concussion, 196 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 5: and we know so much more about CTE. So we 197 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 5: adjust our rules. I used to have unlimited tackle. Let 198 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 5: me get get it. 199 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: I get it. And if we go too far the game, 200 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: it won't be game brace stopping. People will stop watching. 201 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: There won't be a gun. 202 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 4: People get another knocked this year and then another one. 203 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: Like we've got to protect the player. I get it, 204 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: but we've got to protect the brand. We've got to 205 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: protect our The greatest game of war is the greatest 206 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: game of all for a reason. 207 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: If we keep going down, this the greatest game because 208 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 2: players like you cannot. I'm a strong believe and I've 209 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: said it on the stats for three years. I believe 210 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: as a ball carrier because you've got courage, I think 211 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: you should be able to run as hard wherever you want, 212 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: and your head should be protected. And if they hit 213 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: you in their head, it should be sent off now 214 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: and and four weeks for that is not a deterrent. 215 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 4: No, but hold on, we are the greatest game of 216 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: all anyway. 217 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 5: We know the breud tality of this game, and we 218 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 5: don't need instance like that to ram home the fact 219 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 5: how it's why he got suspended. 220 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Though it's pretty much over. 221 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it is a bigger deterrent to make that 222 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 5: tackle if you know you're going to leave your team. 223 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: It's such a tough one, Buzz, And I'm not I 224 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: agree with a lot of what you're saying, but I 225 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: think we've got to be very careful and we've got 226 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: to come up with some sort of solution in a 227 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: big game like this, because I just think we've got Yes, 228 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: we've got the number one. We've got to protect our players, 229 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: but we've got to protect our brand, like that's how, 230 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: that's just how. 231 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: It's a gladiatorial game, breath. It's one of the most 232 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 6: brutal sports in the world. But the rules are still 233 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 6: the rules. And in this instance Joey got it wrong. 234 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 7: It was foul. 235 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 6: Player, right. I think that they got the decision right. 236 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 6: I do like your idea though about he gets he's 237 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 6: gone right, he's sent off and then he gets it 238 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 6: with a harder line suspension four weeks to your point, Gordon, 239 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 6: probably isn't long enough. Maybe they need to start hit 240 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 6: them harderward he let me stay down. 241 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 5: Probably, yes, if you know you've got to back up playing, 242 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 5: you bring someone off the bench in ten minutes. Mark 243 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: maguire will say as they run out, don't forget. You've 244 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 5: got to take wild shout of this game. 245 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: And what do you do? You do you know you're 246 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: going to miss eight weeks at club Land. You're not 247 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: going to go and just go try and take somebody's 248 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: head off. This is what I'm saying. Butting coaches don't coach, 249 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: and and yeah, but you've got to be smart as 250 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: a player, you know, like you know where your bread's budded. 251 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: Queensland coach Billy Slater was still agitated when quizzed over 252 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: the incident this morning. 253 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 7: I know you didn't want to say anything last night 254 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 7: about the Joseph Swally. 255 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: He has that changed this morning? How does race Field 256 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: this morning? I've been seenes Okay, do you know if 257 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: he's okay at all? 258 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 6: No? I just come from my rooms as in like 259 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 6: sure you want to make sure he's okay this morning? 260 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I haven't seen him, so I haven't got 261 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 7: enough back for you. 262 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: So the doctor has no update this morning. Yeah, I 263 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: haven't seen anyone. Okay, I'll see him. 264 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: Want to get on them? 265 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: Can you come up with us? And there is you 266 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: could call him the great player now the great coach honestly, 267 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: like he starts to Queensland coach has been unbelievable. What 268 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: what a what a coach he's become. And he didn't 269 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: look too happy this morning, and he didn't look happy 270 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: during the game when they interviewed him, and he didn't 271 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: look happy after the game last night in the press conference. 272 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: You get the feeling that Billy thinks that, like you 273 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: guys said that Madge has told his players to take 274 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: Welsh out. I think I think. 275 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: Billy's been targeted through his career as a player, and 276 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: we've all done it right. You've got to get to Joel, 277 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 2: You've got to get to the good players, and I 278 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: reckon Billy feels that it's probably happened in his career 279 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: and then he's watched this young kid burst onto the 280 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: scenes and the way they try to defend him is 281 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: the best way to defend him. But things can go wrong, 282 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: but I think it's all bad protecting. Every coach would 283 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: talk about their player. If Rees Wils had a new 284 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: South Wales jersey on and he was laying there, I 285 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: would love to see the cry out if a queenslanda 286 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: if Big Tina hit him and he stayed on. 287 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 6: There's a conspiracy theory doing the rounds and you can 288 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 6: understand why considering what's at stake, it's state of origin. 289 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 6: It's as big as it gets that the Moraines are 290 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 6: privately fuming. We saw Nate Miles have some timely words. 291 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 6: Joseph Sledge absolutely as he left the field, but spoken 292 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 6: to people today, there's definitely a feeling amongst the Marines 293 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 6: that Walsh was specifically targeted and there's some bad blood there. 294 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: There's always going to be targeted ate. 295 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: Nate just congratulated him on his debut. There's nothing wrong 296 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: with that. 297 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 7: It's a great sledge. 298 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: Madge would have said to his players, get into it. 299 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: He wound him up. 300 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: Madge wouldn't have asked for what we saw, but he 301 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: should to make it. 302 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Are you sure he said over cook it in its 303 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: back flight? Is that the thought or not well? 304 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 5: Backfired in two ways because he lost to play it 305 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 5: and Hamma went to fall back and probably played better 306 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 5: than Reach caught him. 307 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: So I did backfight and. 308 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: Then he sat there for twenty five minutes after That 309 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: was a strange one for me, like sitting there. I 310 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: didn't listen to the coach before the game because it's 311 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: all about your moment. Then after the game you're sitting 312 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: there for twenty five minutes and he's still addressing them 313 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: where there's going to be changes. Some of those guys 314 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: have played their last game for and you said, well, 315 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: some of them guys don't even know where they're going 316 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: to be there in game two and he's. 317 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: Addressing them for that long. It's getting to be interesting. 318 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: We'll get that soon. That's probably well done. They call that. 319 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: What about the Queenslanders in cruise control. But who are 320 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: the standouts? I mean DC of course the end of 321 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: the match out how good was he? Like you talk 322 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: about moments like and we always say Gordy Origin. He 323 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: is about moments. The one thing about Queensland over the 324 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: past few years and this man DC's he doesn't miss 325 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: any moment or any opportunity. 326 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: I was worrying, So no fleggle, no ten we did. 327 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: We were losing a bit of big tour timber up front. 328 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: No Monster, He's been our go to player. But DC 329 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: ben Hunt two most experienced players they combined for the 330 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: first rope out of the control that both of those 331 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: guys had one around the runk. With ben Hunt and DC, 332 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: he's kicking game, just turning up in the right places. 333 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: And it shows d C and Hunt experienced players, just 334 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: soaking owning. 335 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 6: The moment, proven big game performers, the pair of them, 336 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 6: and the thing a lot with Daily was he wasn't 337 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 6: just constricting himself to the right hand side of the 338 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 6: field often and because the New South was were weak 339 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 6: on that right edge. Once he was sent off, immediately 340 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 6: he was making sure that Tommy didn't got early ball 341 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 6: and that the hammer was starting to find in roads 342 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 6: and carve up down that side. 343 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: So one copper, I'm never going to question Bill again. 344 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: He gets picked on the bench and I'm thinking state of. 345 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 7: Question him in the Leader. 346 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 8: Yes, I'm thinking why, I'm thinking I called it outrageous 347 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 8: origins changed rever but so on Copa to be on 348 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 8: the bench and come and the carries that he had 349 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 8: this young silm outstandings unbelievable. 350 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 5: Last night he'd played locked forward as a junior, did 351 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 5: it and that was one of the reasons Billy had 352 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 5: him there. 353 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 7: There you go, I have to do a better. 354 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: I learned last night that he was. We had a 355 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: few days of that would have been mighty years of 356 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: Monday night, bro, what did you do? 357 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: He was the standouts for you boops? 358 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I went with daily Ben hunt the way he 359 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 6: only played forty one minutes, but obviously just supporting there 360 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 6: for that opening try, but then to come back on. 361 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: It was twenty to ten. 362 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 7: It had still been a tight contest. 363 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 6: You so Wales, even though they were down to twelve 364 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 6: place had shown some really positive signs in that second half. 365 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 7: They'd been threatening and there. 366 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 6: Was just a little glimmer of a possible upset and 367 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 6: then Ben Hunt goes on and he goes into dummy 368 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 6: half and he carves out a long range dry boots 369 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 6: Tedesco boots a couple other tired news defenders. How many 370 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 6: times have we seen him do that? And this level 371 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 6: is an outstanding big game play. 372 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 5: I thought the Hammer was sensation. You were so three 373 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: tries and I'll tell you what scares me. You've got Walsh, 374 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: You've got Hammer, and you've got Pommer three fullbacks, just 375 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: extraordinary talent. 376 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 6: But this with this coinzline to them to that pointzz 377 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 6: at the moment, they're so electric speed wise, whether you 378 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 6: go with the Hammer, whether you go with Welsh, Selwyn's 379 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 6: deceptively quit. There is so much speed to burn in 380 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 6: that back line. And then with that lighter weight forward 381 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 6: pack Hills. 382 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: Example, there was always going to be the concern. We 383 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: said it for a week and a half that they've 384 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: got more speed and they've got more X factor creativity 385 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: and when the player when it was thirty envs. Well, 386 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: then it become a lot easier for them. I'm not 387 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: discrediting their performance because they're outstanding again, but all of 388 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: a sudden those areas there's more space for the speed 389 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: and then you've got those players like Hunt and DCU 390 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: who have more time and space with the ball in hand. 391 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: On the other hand, which we'll get to now in 392 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: New South Wales with that player going off, was always 393 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: going to be a tough night and it wasn't the 394 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: easiest night for Nico Hines. What do we think of 395 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: his performance last night? 396 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: Tried his heart out like he does, but it wasn't enough. 397 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 5: Obviously, struggled with twelve men On the football side, Queenslane 398 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 5: got on top, got momandam superior in the forwards. A 399 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 5: couple of Blues forwards was a bit disponding, paying haas 400 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 5: one of them, and he had the momentum and against 401 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 5: Nikka and look, I can't see Niko surviving. 402 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: You think he's not going to survive it. 403 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: No, I can't see it. 404 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: You haven't heard anything I have. 405 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: I spoke to people in the camp this morning and 406 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: they want to wait and see our met trematosis. 407 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 4: Would be silly to come out now and say we're 408 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 4: going to get rid of Nika. 409 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: Before we spoke again about Niko and Lulu, I thought 410 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: was pretty good and he missed ten tak Yeah, I 411 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: know we'll get to that, but again, I believe they're 412 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: very good off the front foot those too, you know, 413 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: momentum players, and I was concerned, I said on Tuesday 414 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: about the kicking game. And then again because it was 415 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: twelve players, they obviously didn't have that momentum. We're hard 416 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: to get on the front foot, which therefore didn't suit Nico. 417 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: He's first kick in the game. I mean in Origin, 418 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: it's tough because everything can crumble down around you if 419 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: you get it wrong early. And they had a great 420 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: set and he went to the left hand side and 421 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: he put a left foot kick in for his first 422 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: attack and kick in Origin. As a halfback, I probably 423 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: would have opted for something like this, a bit more safety, 424 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: just get it on the mark. And then Queensland scored 425 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: off the back of that first seven tackle set and 426 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: then they were chasing their tail already, so you know, 427 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: it's tough. He talked about moments, so Nico had a 428 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: couple and he just didn't nice them. So it was 429 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: a tough night for him, wasn't it. 430 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 6: It is brutal for Niico in that we all know 431 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 6: how much he's craved that new South Wales number seven jumper, 432 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 6: and he had a tough baptism. In terms of his 433 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 6: debut last year on he got twelve minutes, had to 434 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 6: play in the centers. This time around he gets to 435 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 6: play in his preferred position. But he's essentially ineffective. There 436 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 6: was way too much sideways movement. He was brought in 437 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 6: to try and straighten the attack. We didn't see a 438 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 6: lot of that happening. And his kicking game, I thought 439 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 6: predominantly was ineffective most of the evening, with the exception 440 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 6: of the crossfield kick for Lomax. The rest of the 441 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 6: time it wasn't deep enough, it wasn't landing on the 442 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 6: trail on a regular basis. 443 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 7: It's origin. 444 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 6: All those little one percent areas have a microscope put 445 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 6: to them and I feel as an if Mitchell mass 446 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 6: is fit, Niko won't be there for game two. 447 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: Both we spoke about the leadership from Queensland Jake Ravoivich, 448 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: who I was worried about because he's such a nice guy, 449 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: such a great player. Was it twenty nine minutes as 450 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 2: a captain? What do you think about that he sat there? 451 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: I thought he's assistant coach there and now I feel 452 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 2: sorry for Jay. You were obviously not ideal, especially when 453 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: your captain, But I look at it more like the 454 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: way the game plant panned out. 455 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: I think New South Wales late in that game were 456 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: in the second half, they needed a lot of leag 457 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: speed and they needed points and that's not really Jake's 458 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: strong point in any way, either of them. So I 459 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: don't think it was like I leave the captain off 460 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: on purpose or it was just you kind of use 461 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: your bench, your core into how the game plays out. 462 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean Queensland showed that, and no disrespect to ja 463 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: because Jake is one of the toughest we've got, best 464 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: defenders we've got and he saw it in the middle, 465 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: but we weren't trying to defend a lead. We're trying 466 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: to score points. It doesn't matter whether you captain or not. 467 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: Like you really you've got to put the best player 468 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: you think it's right for that job right there. And 469 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: I think he was unfortunate that he didn't get back. 470 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 6: On your Madge makes mistakes in terms of his bench 471 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 6: rotations on that subject, because we saw Jake not afforded 472 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 6: a lot of minutes. Obviously they were reduced to only 473 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 6: having a sixteen bloke rotation, But could we have handled 474 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: that better? Did we need a utility similar to what 475 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 6: Billy went with with Selwyn. Should Matt Burton have actually 476 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 6: been in that balance instead? 477 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: We can't arrest them. Honestly, the twelve players. 478 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 5: Like around Madge did and the people beside him in 479 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 5: the coaching box. 480 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: Was the time it took them to move Stephen Crichton 481 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: to the field. 482 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 7: How long was it? 483 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 5: Three tries and tries to and it was a pretty obvious. 484 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 5: Wonder girl, Yeah, that's where hammer was coming. That's where 485 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 5: who was that side? Vow was he on that side? Yeah? 486 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: Whoever? 487 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, copper he was. It should have been more obvious, 488 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: a lot quicker. If they move, you're going if they 489 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: move right over this side, you don't think we go 490 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: on attack? 491 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 7: Of course, of course to. 492 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: Do something to stop it, something and crighton. 493 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 6: When he did get over that right side, Stephen he 494 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 6: was standing some of the last split second defensive place 495 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 6: that he was able to execute. And then with the 496 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 6: ball he was equally as damaging and asking just as 497 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 6: many of your questions. 498 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 4: Were always saying, he's a left hand, he's a right sander. 499 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 7: You play, well, this is what he does play. 500 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: That's what I think at this level, whether we picked 501 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: the trail next time. 502 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what he didn't like it. 503 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 6: To your point about the fact that it took too 504 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 6: long to Jerry that there was an issue over on 505 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 6: that side, Niko was the one defending at right center 506 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 6: when Souali initially got sent. Now that's where he had 507 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 6: those the demons from twelve months earlier, right and he 508 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 6: struck ends again. 509 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: But it was an overlap. It was they had an 510 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: extra twelve players. 511 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, does it. 512 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: No, Well, what I'm saying is that you can't really 513 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: blame Nick, but I'm. 514 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: Not blaming him. 515 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 6: I'm saying it was a tough watch when you know 516 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 6: the history of Nico at that. 517 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: Buzz you can get your point here about Lui. You 518 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: said that you were happily with something in his game. 519 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 5: Oh, I just read the stats fox Lab this morning. 520 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: Missed ten tackles this level. 521 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 6: It's you know how much how much you got a 522 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 6: factor in that they were reduced to twelve players. If 523 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 6: you look at some of the other players who missed 524 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 6: a lot of tackles in the game, Leam Martin. 525 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why, because you just raised Nico going missing. 526 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 5: Niko missed four tackles last sight n I missed one 527 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 5: in Adelaide and got drop. 528 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: He's got missed ten. 529 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 7: Last how many lads to tries that you missed? Well, 530 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 7: you've got to take that England as well. 531 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes see that for example, Buzz he bounced someone else. 532 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: You can't just look at the start and go right, well, 533 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, you got to look at the game. 534 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: It's helpful. 535 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 1: It does. 536 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: Someone's missed that may't. 537 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 6: But if you want to go look at Coueensland, Buzz, 538 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 6: then I missed nine tackles. Pat Carrigan missed six tackles. 539 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 6: You wouldn't say either of those players had poor games. 540 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 6: So I get where you're coming from. In relations to Drame, 541 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 6: I thought of the new cells halves. 542 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: He looked missed that one and he still. 543 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 7: I look far more and I haven't. 544 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: We moved on, but. 545 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 4: I can't keep your concentration level. 546 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 6: True, I'm just acting in the now, whereas you're still 547 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 6: three players behind. 548 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: Before you'd answer the question, all Smiley, who replaces him? 549 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: This is a this is a big one. Now, this 550 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: changes a lot. So who replaces jose Well? Burton was 551 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: in the squad, wouldn't he? It's Burton Latrell. They're the 552 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: only two. 553 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: I think it's got to be Latrell. 554 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 5: And there was much conjecture about the Trail's availability before 555 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 5: the first game. I've made a few phone calls on 556 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 5: this and is there a problem between Madge and Latrell. 557 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: This is what happened. 558 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 5: Madge rang him up six weeks ago, said you're free 559 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 5: for a coffee talk about Origin. The Trail was buried in, 560 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 5: just coming off suspension, buried in South wanted to commit 561 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 5: fully to him and said, look, I haven't If I'm 562 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 5: going good enough, I'm ready to play. I don't know 563 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 5: if Madge accepted that all that kindly saw it just 564 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 5: a little bit of a not a snub. But is 565 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 5: he keen it cast its seed down. 566 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: That's not a bad answer. Hey listen, I've let my 567 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: club down, so were the most spoken about club. I 568 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: need to start playing some good footy for my club. 569 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: He's not going to pick him because he didn't have 570 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: coffee with you, respectfully. Look is that what you're saying. 571 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 6: Latrell at his best bars can kick the door off 572 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 6: the hinges in Origin. 573 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 7: We've seen him do it. We're watching the highlights on 574 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 7: the big screen. 575 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: Now. 576 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 6: I would say I think he needs to go out 577 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 6: and play really powerful performances against the Gold Coach this 578 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 6: weekend and then also Brisbane the following weekend. And if 579 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 6: he's in a really good touch, then okay, you look 580 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 6: at it. But on the form that he's played in 581 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 6: so far this year, I don't think you could have him. 582 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 6: I think that Burton Catanei Stags returns this weekend. 583 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 7: Okay, we're going to have to disagree. 584 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: I think I think what could help Latrell is Yeah, 585 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: they need X factor and they need they need someone 586 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: who can break a game wide open, which he can. 587 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: He hasn't been in the best form this Year's getting 588 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: a little bit better in the next couple of games. 589 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: Good last last time. But if they put him in 590 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: the left center, then they can put Burton on the bench, 591 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: which therefore gives him that that that options with Burton 592 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: on the bench. If Burton goes left center, who do 593 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: you put sorry, right center, who do you put or 594 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: you can put Crichtons in burn Less, who do you 595 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: put on the on the bench. 596 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 4: Well, I was going to say, and I've got this 597 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: written down here. 598 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 5: I think Burton is an absolute must for the bench 599 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 5: to probably replace holakauat in that if our fullback goes down, 600 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 5: Crighton can drop to the back, Platrel can drop to 601 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 5: the back. Burton can play sane played five eight, probably 602 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: play lock forward, probably play an edge. 603 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: And we did get found out last night by Billy's bench. 604 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: And do you follow on the blueprint of the Queens. 605 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 5: It's not all I'm saying, And in most representative sides, 606 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: in my experience, there has been a bit more versatility 607 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 5: on the bench than what we had last night. 608 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 7: Well, Madge roll the dice. 609 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 6: He took a gamble in that respect your spot on 610 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 6: Buzz and unfortunately the back forward once Joseph got off 611 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 6: in the Power Game, it went out the window. 612 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: He did okay down as Teddy, did he do enough 613 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: to hold his spot last night? Does Edwards just come 614 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: back into the team? 615 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 6: I thought he had some really nice touches, but I 616 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 6: think there were also some critical moments in the game 617 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 6: where his risked tip ons. He threw a poor pass 618 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 6: at one stage when they are in really good attacking 619 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 6: ball opportunity feel position the forty twenty the DC cooked 620 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: kicked at another critical stage. He was probably just a 621 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 6: little bit out of position there. So now I'd be 622 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 6: going with Dylan Edwards. And that's no knock on Teddy. 623 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 6: He's an absolute champion. But I just think showed last night. 624 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: Will Dylan be right? Will he play again before Origin too? 625 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 7: There is talk that he will be back. He might 626 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 7: at a game in Yes. 627 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: What do you think I'm interested? You talk about the 628 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 5: Teddy tap on. The thing is we're so far behind Jim. 629 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 5: It was no safety first opportunity and look he had 630 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: to do something. But I do agree if Edward's feed 631 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 5: he comes back. 632 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: I think the good thing with that is that Edwards 633 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: was originally the team. He trained with the team, and 634 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: even with Heines, if they decided to go with Moses, 635 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: Moses would have been picked if he'd played a game 636 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: or two more before that Origin one. So it's not 637 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: like you're making a huge decision. I could be wrong, 638 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: but you're not making a huge decision in dropping Heins 639 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: if he was really the second pick behind Moses in 640 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: the first place. And then you've got also Edwards coming in. 641 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 5: But the other thing is I don't think New South 642 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 5: Wales were disgraceful last night. Yeah that's what I thought, 643 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 5: And even midway through that second half, We're never going 644 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 5: to win in the contest. 645 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: Twenty ten before the forty. 646 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 5: Two that with twelve we don't have the most mass, 647 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 5: but we're talking about important money. 648 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's hard to kind of really look at 649 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: the game and try and take a lot from it 650 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: because of House severe that one. 651 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: There was more positives than negatives for New South Wales, 652 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: way more positives coming from a Correensland right. Well, like 653 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: there were so to be down twelve men for seventy 654 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: two minutes in the state of origin. It's hard enough 655 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: with eighty and you saw how Queensland were attacking them 656 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: and they hung in there and at twenty ten I 657 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 2: got nervous. 658 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 5: There is pressure from Madge though I feel I feel 659 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 5: there are a few blues made. 660 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: There always is, there always is. 661 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 4: I feel like sacking a coach all now I'm not. 662 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 4: There's just pressure. 663 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 5: The way Jake was used, the way Crichton took an 664 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 5: hour to get out of the other side, well it 665 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 5: did you know? 666 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 7: They're legitimate point. 667 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 668 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: I just think one or two changes keep the nucleus 669 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: of that team and they can bounce back. Thank you, buzz, 670 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: thank you going again, thank you who've suck Next? The 671 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: legends are in Billy Moore and have two