1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to L three sixty rather League from every angle, 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: brought to you by NIV joining me Queensland, Great Gordon 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Talas and you've done it again. The guys from in 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: the Morions Jerseys haves won a stunning victory over New 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: South Wales. 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: Very dominant display. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: Are very good Gordy, Yeah, billionaires. Boys did a great job. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: Obviously always a tough place to win. New South Wales 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: picked a very strong, powerful side and obviously New South 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: Wales with a man down but strange game for Queensland, 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: but still good enough to get the job done. They 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: sure were a great performance. There was a great performance 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: and they're in fine formed. The Maroons head to Melbourne 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: with the chance. 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: To wrap up the series. After a dominant display at 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: the Course Stadium. As we take a look at the 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: jim Bean Origin Rap. 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: Origin one, we are ready for action at at Core Stadium. 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: The Maroons trying to make it three series wins on 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 4: the Trots. 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: It's Jerry Evans. 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 4: In behind them Hunt. He flies through the air and 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 4: scores for Queensland walls. 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: You have to bash him. Absolutely leveled by Simile. He's 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: an enormous amount of trouble. 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: I'll keep my feelings about that to myself. Oh and 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 4: that might be a huge problem for Joseph Swadli. 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: Oh Breck contact her head off. 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 5: Oh ye, that was a tough one. 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 6: Now, I didn't expect him to get sent off. 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 7: I'm being honest. 32 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: New South Wales down to twelve men for the remainder 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: of the game. 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: It's a disappointed to scene him get sent off. But 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: they call that and that's ways. 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's a big call. 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: This at this level. 38 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: It's nothing doing for Luai. 39 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: So he comes back to the middle. 40 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: Rubber's fakes at Desco who will play it down? Demn 41 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: a man New South Wales have responded so and hops 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 4: it there. 43 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: For Cobo keeps it going to Lungey. 44 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: They found the space they've got to. There are plus 45 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: of numbers here and Hamiso tap Ua Feto Pobo is 46 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: away once again. Bend's away from Lomax, gives it to 47 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: the lay There are Maroons everywhere, why not give it 48 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: to Hamiso Tapuay for Doe again it's thirteen on twelve. 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: Pines will go ahead Wine for Lomax who has the leaf, 50 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: comes down with it and scores for the Blues. In 51 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: New South Wales strike first and they had to oh ho, 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: it's Martin again. Robinson forces a mistake. Queensland turn it 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: over again. The men men down the fight. The passioner's 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 4: real strongestess I says, it's tough to warn Ga. Ben 55 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 4: Hunt weaving in traffic, gets away from Tedesco hunts. They 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: go the length of the field. Ben Hunt scores. 57 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: Again, get a double origin. It's that's something I'm going 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: to remember a long time. 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: Here's Hines Yo straight to Cherry Evans and in accept 60 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: Cherry Evans kicks coach blooming up, brilliant win the race 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 4: for Queensland. I'm always proud of this footy team. Could 62 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 4: imagine what five point five million people above the border 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 4: there are feeling about their footy team. Here is Dad 64 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: and he's got tapui for dough. He's smiling as he 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 4: runs away and scores his first origin. 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: Had trick, getting one is he's goed a got three? 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 7: Yes, I got. 68 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: The celebrations already beginning for Queensland. As the siren sounds 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: they've taken down the Blues thirty eight. 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 7: Points to ten. 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: A great win, a dominant win by Queensland thirty eight 72 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: points to ten. But there was a highly controversial moment 73 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: that had a huge impact on the game. That'tween the 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: jonas in Buzz Rothfield and James Whoper. 75 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: Let's ge straight to it. It's not been around the bush. 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: This has divided the rugby league world over the past 77 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. A lot of people having opinions on 78 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: this call. And Joseph Sawley, how do we see it? 79 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 5: I don't know while we're even having a debate. I 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 5: thought he had to go. 81 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 8: We had a national television audience, We had four million people, 82 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 8: not all rugby league people watching the game. A Mark 83 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 8: Queed player, the face of Queensland, brutally taken out an 84 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 8: illegal hit shoulder of the head. 85 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely, no question. It was a sendoff. 86 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 9: What do you think it's yeah, both in the modern game, 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 9: it's direct contact with the head, It's forceful. 88 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 6: Joseph's left his feet. 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 9: Yes, Reese Walsh was slipping, so there is an element 90 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 9: that that also needs to be factored in. But I 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 9: commend the referee Ashley client. I think he showed a 92 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 9: serious set of stones on that stage with so much 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 9: intense focus on this contest and what it means to 94 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 9: both states to make that call in the eighth minute 95 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 9: of match. It takes a lot of conviction and intestinal 96 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 9: fortitude and he showed it. 97 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people have it upside down. 98 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: It's our greatest show piece because of players like Grease. 99 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: There is no popular player than him. You don't want 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: to lose anybody to injury. And with that tackle, is 101 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: it an accident? 102 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 7: Maybe? Is it not? 103 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: He's gone out the force, you know, and no one 104 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: likes seeing Joey and he's the boom match go. But 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 3: he hit him in the head and it's a sendoff. 106 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: And people saying, oh, it's stay of Oregon. So your 107 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: brain right is less important than a state of origin 108 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: than there's a club level. A club level, send him 109 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: off a brain trauma in state of Oregon and go 110 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: he's allowed. 111 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 7: To stay on the fix. 112 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: It's tough one because really in a club game, it's 113 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: a sendoff straight away. We know that, and which one 114 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: protect the player and protect the player's head. So and 115 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: if you're a new South Welshman and it was one 116 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: of your players, you're saying send off. But my thing 117 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: with this is there is mitigating circumstances. But still it 118 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: was enough for him to be sent I believe, But 119 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: he was slipping and he lost his feet before he 120 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: threw the pass wal he had already been set to 121 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: tackle him, and you watch it, he completely loses his feet. 122 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: So Swali was you can see there like he's passing 123 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: the balls. Joseph hasn't even got to him. He's not 124 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: even his feet is slipping sliding into the tackle. So 125 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: there are mitigating circumstances here. And for me, always with 126 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: a sendoff and with origin being as big as it 127 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: is normally, it's when a pier is with intent going 128 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: to take someone's head off intentionally. 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: Okay, you make something. There's some great points there and 130 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: you're correct with all of them. You watch Leam Martin's 131 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: hit in the second half on Hopgood flies that with 132 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: the same intent, hits him just as hard hurts. 133 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: Hop Good, and what happened? 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 7: Where does he hit him? 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: But what happened? 136 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: But if hop Good slipped, he hits him in the guts, 137 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 3: He hits him in the ribs. So he's like a 138 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: great defender. His tackle technique is lower, but he. 139 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: Too severe though couldn't have been ten in the bin though. 140 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 5: But but you are arguing a slip of. 141 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 8: The feet by Reese Walsh on a rugby league field 142 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 8: in every game every week, players will slip on slippery services. Now, 143 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 8: that doesn't mean he has to leave himself open to 144 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 8: be knocked out in the manner in which he was. 145 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm not arguing that he shouldn't have been sent I'm 146 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: just saying there are many gating circumstances, and I worry 147 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: about the game as well as head knocks. 148 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: I worry about the game. It's origin. 149 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: You've got families that are paying hundreds of dollars to 150 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: be there, and you could argue that after seven and 151 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: a half minutes, I believe the game was over and possibly, 152 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: I'd say most likely the series. I was there with 153 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: the punters last night, listening to what the punters had 154 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: to see, watching people leave at halftime at an Orangin match. 155 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: You know, like we do need to protect the actual 156 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: game as well. Like that they actually, I. 157 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 8: Don't want to keep interrupting, and it's far more important 158 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 8: to protect ma Reice Walsh and superstars like him, who 159 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 8: was knocked unconscious against Penrith by May earlier this year. 160 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 8: He was not unconscious again last night. We're not even 161 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 8: halfway through the season. He is the face of rugby League. 162 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: I get it, and I agree with you. Why couldn't 163 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: you think they're targeting? Why couldn't I'll get to that. 164 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: Why couldn't they just tend in the bin? I'm just 165 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: that was a referee call. 166 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 9: That was a referee call, he said immediately as soon 167 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 9: as he saw it unfold live, he said, I'm thinking send. 168 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 9: And then the Bunker was obviously also involved in reviewing the. 169 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 3: Situation, and Queenslanders would have thought it'd be unfair on 170 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: them when you lose a superstar like that the whole 171 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 3: game for foul play and someone gets ten minutes. 172 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: I think we need to change it. I think we 173 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: need to protect the game in all aspects. 174 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 7: So maybe lose Joey, bring a replace. 175 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: That's when he comes on after activate the man after 176 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: a certain time. In the Rugby Union with a recard, 177 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: a player goes off for twenty minutes and then they 178 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: can bring a player off the bench. 179 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: So I think we need to look at it, because no. 180 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 7: No brace. 181 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 8: We have to make tackles like that not happen. We 182 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 8: need massive hold on just be finished. We need massive 183 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 8: deterrents for players like Joseph Swalo. He to launch himself 184 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 8: and if you know, I'll build him high. 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 5: I'll go off in. 186 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: Four or five weeks bus but. 187 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 5: The team, his team doesn't get effected. 188 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: If you're they should be effected. 189 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 5: But I don't know about since nine eight? 190 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: Is that has that been a send off since? 191 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: Well, it should be in today's game. 192 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: Is nothing to do with what you brought. It hasn't 193 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 2: been a set of since. 194 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 5: It's got nothing to do with what you want. Back 195 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 5: back up. 196 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: We just said I'm rushing up, and there hasn't been since. 197 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Well it should be, yes, it should be now, but 198 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: it hasn't been. 199 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: No, it happened. 200 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 8: But but you're I don't know why you're blowing up 201 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 8: about going back. We're in the modern era week concussion, 202 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 8: and we know so much more about CTE, so we 203 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 8: adjust our rules. 204 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: I used to have unlimited tackle. Let me get get it. 205 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: I get it. 206 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: And if we go too far the game, it won't 207 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: be game. Brace stop, people will stop watching. There won't 208 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: be a gun. People get another knocked this year and 209 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: then another one. 210 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: Like we've got to protect the player. I get it, 211 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: but we've got to protect the brand. We've got to 212 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: protect our the greatest game of war. Is the greatest 213 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: game of all for a reason. 214 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: If we keep going down, this the greatest game because 215 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 3: players like you cannot. I'm a strong believe and I've 216 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: said it on the stats for three years. I believe 217 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: as a ball carrier because you've got courage, I think 218 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: you should be able to run as hard wherever you want, 219 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: and your head should be protected and if they hit 220 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: you in their head, it should be sent off now and. 221 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 7: Four weeks for that is not a deterrent. 222 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 5: No, but hold on, we are the greatest game of 223 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 5: all anyway. 224 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 8: We know the breud tality of this game and we 225 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 8: don't need instance like that to ram home the fact. 226 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 7: How yeh, that's why he. 227 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: Got suspended though it's pretty much over. 228 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, but it is a bigger deterrent to make that 229 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 8: tackle if you know you're going to leave your team. 230 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: It's such a tough one, Buzz, And I'm not I 231 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: agree with a lot of what you're saying, but I 232 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: think we've got to be very careful and we've got 233 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: to come up with some sort of solution in a 234 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: big game like this, because I just think we've got Yes, 235 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: we've got the number one. We've got to protect our players, 236 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: but we've got to protect our brand. Like that's how, 237 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: that's just how. 238 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 9: It's a gladiatorial game, breath. It's one of the most 239 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 9: brutal sports in the world. But the rules are still 240 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 9: the rules. And in this instance, Joey got it wrong. 241 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 6: It was foul. 242 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: Player, right. 243 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 6: I think that they got the decision right. 244 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 9: I do like your idea though about he gets he's 245 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 9: gone right, he's sent off, and then he gets it 246 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 9: with a harder line suspension four weeks to your point, Gordon, 247 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 9: probably isn't long enough. Maybe they need to start hit 248 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 9: them harder forward he let me stay down. 249 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 8: Probably, yes, if you know you've got to back up playing, 250 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 8: you bring someone off the bench in ten minutes. Mark 251 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 8: maguire will say as they run out, don't forget. You've 252 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 8: got to take wild shout of this game. 253 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: And what do you do? 254 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: You do you know you're going to miss eight weeks 255 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: at club Land. You're not going to go and just 256 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: go try and take somebody's head off. 257 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. 258 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 7: Butting coaches don't coach, and and I yeah, but you've. 259 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: Got to be smart as a player, you know, like 260 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: you know where your bread's budded. Queensland coach Billy Slater 261 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: was still agitated when quizzed over the incident this morning. 262 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 6: I know you didn't want to say anything last night 263 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 6: about the Joseph Swally. 264 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: He has that changed this morning? How does race Field 265 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: this morning? I've been seenes Okay, do you know if 266 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: he's okay at all? 267 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 9: No? I just come from my rooms as in like 268 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 9: sure you want to make sure he's okay this morning? 269 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I haven't seen him, so I haven't got enough. 270 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: Back for you. So the doctor has no update this morning. Yeah, 271 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: I haven't seen anyone. Okay, I'll see him. 272 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 7: Want to get on them? 273 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: Can you come up with us? 274 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: And there is you could call him the great player 275 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: now the great coach honestly, like he starts to Queensland 276 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: coach has been unbelievable. 277 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: What what a what a coach he's become. 278 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: And he didn't look too happy this morning, and he 279 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: didn't look happy during the game when they interviewed him, 280 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: and he didn't look happy after the game last night 281 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: in the press conference. You get the feeling that Billy 282 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: thinks that like you guys said that Madge has told 283 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: his players to take Welsh out. 284 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 7: I think I think. 285 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 3: Billy's been targeted through his career as a player, and 286 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: we've all done it right. You've got to get to Joel, 287 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 3: You've got to get to the good players, and I 288 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: reckon Billy feels that it's probably happened in his career 289 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: and then he's watched this young kid burst onto the 290 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: scenes and the way they try to defend him is 291 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: the best way to defend him. But things can go wrong, 292 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: but I think it's all bad protecting. Every coach would 293 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: talk about their player. If Rees wils had a New 294 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: South Wales Jersey on and he was laying there, I 295 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: would love to see the cry out if a queenslanda 296 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: if Big Tina hit him and he stayed on. 297 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 9: There's a conspiracy theory doing the rounds and you can 298 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 9: understand why considering what's at stake, it's state of origin. 299 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 9: It's as big as it gets that the Moraines are 300 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 9: privately fuming. We saw Nate Miles have some timely words. 301 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 9: Joseph Sledge absolutely as he left the field, but spoken 302 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 9: to people today, there's definitely a feeling amongst the Marines 303 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 9: that Walsh was specifically targeted and there's some bad blood there. 304 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: Here's always going to be targeted. Nate just congratulated him 305 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: on his debut. There's nothing wrong with that. 306 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 6: It's a great sledge. 307 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: Madge would have said to his players, get into it. 308 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: He wound them up. 309 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 5: Madge wouldn't have asked for what we saw, but he 310 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: should to make it. 311 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 7: Are you sure he said. 312 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: Over cook it in its back flight? Is that the 313 00:14:59,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: thought or not? 314 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 6: Well? 315 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 8: It backfired in two ways because he lost to play 316 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 8: it and Hamma went to fall back and probably played 317 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 8: better than Reach caught him. 318 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 5: So I did backfight and. 319 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: Then he sat there for twenty five minutes after That 320 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: was a strange one for me, like sitting there. I 321 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: didn't listen to the coach before the game because it's 322 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: all about your moment. Then after the game you're sitting 323 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: there for twenty five minutes and he's still addressing them 324 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: where there's going to be changes. Some of those guys 325 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: have played their last game for and you said, well, 326 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: some of them guys don't even know where they're going 327 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: to be there in game two, and he's addressing. 328 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 6: Them for that long. 329 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: It's getting to be interesting. We'll get that soon. 330 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 7: That's probably well done. 331 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: They call that what about the Queenslanders in cruise control? 332 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: But who are the standouts? I mean DC of course 333 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: the end of the match out how good was he? 334 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Like you talk about moments like and we always say 335 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: Gordy Origin. He is about moments. The one thing about 336 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: Queensland over the past few years and this man DC's 337 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't miss any moment or any opportunity. 338 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: I was worrying, So no fleggle, no ten we did. 339 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: We were losing a bit of big tour timber up front. 340 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: No monster, He's been our go to player. But DC 341 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: ben Hunt two most experienced players they combined for the 342 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: first rope out of the control that both of those 343 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: guys had one around the runk With ben Hunt and DC, 344 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: he's kicking game, just turning up in the right places. 345 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: And it shows. 346 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: Out d C and Hunt experienced players, just soaking owning 347 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: the moment. 348 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 9: Proven big game performers, the pair of them, and the 349 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 9: thing a lot with Daily was he wasn't just constricting 350 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 9: himself to the right hand side of the field often 351 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 9: and because the New South was were weak on that 352 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 9: right edge. Once he was sent off, immediately he was 353 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 9: making sure that Tommy didn't got early ball and that 354 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 9: the hammer was starting to find in roads and carve 355 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 9: up down that side. 356 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: So one copper, I'm never going to question Bill again. 357 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: He gets picked on the bench and I'm thinking state of. 358 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 6: Question him in the Leader. 359 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 10: Yes, I'm thinking why I'm thinking I called it outrageous 360 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 10: origins changed rever but so on Copa to be on 361 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 10: the bench and come and the carries that he had 362 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 10: this young silm outstandings unbelievable. 363 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 8: Last night he'd played lock forward as a junior, did 364 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 8: it and that was one of the reasons Billy had 365 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 8: him there. 366 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 7: There you go, I have to do a better. 367 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 5: I learned last night that he was. We had a 368 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 5: few days of that would have been mighty Monday night, Bro, 369 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 5: what did you do? 370 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: He was the standouts for you boops? 371 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, I went with daily ben hunt the way he 372 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 9: only played forty one minutes, but obviously just supporting there 373 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 9: for that opening try but then to come back on 374 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 9: it was twenty to ten. 375 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 6: It had still been a tight contest. 376 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 9: You Wales, even though they were down to twelve place 377 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 9: had shown some really positive signs in that second half. 378 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 9: They'd been threatening and there was just a little glimmer 379 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 9: of a possible upset, and then ben Hunt goes on 380 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 9: and he goes into dummy half and he carves out 381 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 9: a long range Dry boots Tedesco boots a couple other 382 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 9: tired news defenders. How many times have we seen him 383 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 9: do that? And this level is an outstanding big game play. 384 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 8: I thought the Hammer was sensation. You were so three 385 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 8: tries and I'll tell you what scares me. You've got Walsh, 386 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 8: You've got Hammer, and you've got Pommer three fullbacks, just 387 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 8: extraordinary talent. 388 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 9: But this with this coinzline to them to that point 389 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 9: buzz at the moment, they're so electric speed wise, whether 390 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 9: you go with the Hammer, whether you go with Welsh, 391 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 9: Selwyn's deceptively quit. There is so much speed to burn 392 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 9: in that back line. And then with that lighter weight 393 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 9: forward pack Billy. 394 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: Example, there was always going to be the concern. 395 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: We said it for a week and a half that 396 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: they've got more speed and they've got more X factor 397 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: creativity and when the player when it was thirty mvs welve, 398 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: then it become a lot easier for them. I'm not 399 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: discrediting their performance because they're outstanding again, but all of 400 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, those areas there's more space for the speed 401 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: and then you've got those players like Hunt and DCU 402 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: who have more time and space with the ball in 403 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: hand on the other hand, which we'll get to now 404 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: in New South Wales with that player going off, was 405 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: always going to be a tough night and it wasn't 406 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: the easiest night. 407 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: For Nico Hines. What do we think of his performance 408 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 2: last night? 409 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 5: Tried his heart out like he does, but it wasn't enough. 410 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 8: Obviously, struggled with twelve men On the football side, Queenslane 411 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 8: got on top, got momandam superior in the forwards. A 412 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 8: couple of Blues forwards was a bit desponding, paying haas 413 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 8: one of them, and he had the momentum and against 414 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 8: Nikka and look, I can't see Niko surviving. 415 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: Do you think he's not going to survive it? 416 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 5: No, I can't see it. 417 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: You haven't heard anything I have. 418 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 8: I spoke to people in the camp this morning and 419 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 8: they want to wait and see our met trematosis. Would 420 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 8: be silly to come out now and say we're going 421 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 8: to get rid of Nika. 422 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: Before we spoke again about Niko. 423 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: And Lulu, I thought was pretty good and he missed 424 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: ten tackle yeah, I know we'll get to that. But 425 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: again I believe they're very good off the front foot 426 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: those too, you know, momentum players, and I was concerned, 427 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: I said on Tuesday about the kicking game, and then 428 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: again because it was twelve players, I obviously didn't have 429 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: that momentum. We're hard to get on the front foot, 430 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: which therefore didn't suit Nico. He's first kick in the game. 431 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean in Origin, it's tough because everything can crumble 432 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: down around you if you get it wrong early. And 433 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: they had a great set and he went to the 434 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: left hand side and he put a left foot kick 435 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: in for his first attack and kick in Origin. As 436 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: a halfback, I probably would have opted for something like this, 437 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: a bit more safety, just get it on the mark. 438 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: And then Queensland scored off the back of that first 439 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: seven tackle set and then they were chasing their tail already, 440 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: so you know, it's tough. He talked about moments, so 441 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 1: Nico had a couple and he just didn't nice them. 442 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: So it was a tough night for him, wasn't it. 443 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 9: It is brutal for Nico in that we all know 444 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 9: how much he's craved that new South Wales number seven jumper, 445 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 9: and he had a tough baptism. In terms of his 446 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 9: debut last year on he got twelve minutes, had to 447 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 9: play in the centers. This time around he gets to 448 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 9: play in his preferred position. But he's essentially ineffective. There 449 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 9: was way too much sideways movement. He was brought in 450 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 9: to try and straighten the attack. We didn't see a 451 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 9: lot of that happening. And his kicking game, I thought 452 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 9: predominantly was ineffective most of the evening, with the exception 453 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 9: of the crossfield kick for Lomax. The rest of the 454 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 9: time it wasn't deep enough, it wasn't landing on the 455 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 9: trail on a regular basis. 456 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 6: It's origin. 457 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 9: All those little one percent areas have a microscope put 458 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 9: to them. And I feel as an if Mitchell mass 459 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 9: is fit, Niko won't be there for game two. 460 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: Both we spoke about the leadership from Queensland, Jake Ravoivich, 461 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: who I was worried about because he's such a nice guy, 462 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: such a great player. Was it twenty nine minutes as 463 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: a captain? What do you think about that he sat there? 464 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: I thought he's assistant coach there and now I feel 465 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 3: sorry for Jay. You were obviously not ideal, especially when 466 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: your captain, But I look at it more like the 467 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: way the game plant panned out. I think New South 468 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 3: Wales late in that game were in the second half, 469 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: they needed a lot of leag speed and they needed 470 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: points and that's not really Jake's strong point in any way, 471 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: either of them. So I don't think it was like 472 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: I leave the captain off on purpose, or it was 473 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: just you kind of use your bench, your core into 474 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: how the game plays out. 475 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: I mean Queensland showed that, and no. 476 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: Disrespect to Ja because Jake is one of the toughest 477 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: we've got, best defenders we've got and he saw it 478 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: in the middle, but we weren't trying to defend a lead. 479 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: We're trying to score points. It doesn't matter whether you 480 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: captain or not. Like you really, you've got to put 481 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: the best player you think it's right for that job 482 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: right there. And I think he was unfortunate that he 483 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: didn get back on. 484 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 9: Your Madge makes mistakes in terms of his bench rotations 485 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 9: on that subject, because we saw Jake not afforded a 486 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 9: lot of minutes. Obviously they were reduced to only having 487 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 9: a sixteen bloke rotation, but. 488 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 6: Could we have handled that better. 489 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 9: Did we need a utility similar to what Billy went 490 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 9: with with Selwyn? Should Matt Burton have actually been in 491 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 9: that balance instead? 492 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: We can't arrest them, honestly, the twelve players, like. 493 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 8: Aud Madge did and the people beside him in the 494 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 8: coaching box. Was the time it took them to move 495 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 8: Stephen Crichton to the field? 496 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 7: How long was it? 497 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 8: Three tries and tries to and it was a pretty obvious. 498 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 8: Wonder girl, Yeah, that's where hammer was coming. That's where 499 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 8: who was that side? 500 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 5: Vow? 501 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 7: Was he on that side? 502 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 8: Yeah? 503 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: Whoever? Yeah, copper he was? 504 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 5: It should have been more obvious, a lot quicker. 505 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 7: If they move, you're going if they move right over 506 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 7: this side, you don't think we go on attack? 507 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 6: Of course, of course to. 508 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: Do something to stop it, something and crighton. 509 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 9: When he did get over that right side, Stephen he 510 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 9: was standing some of the last split second defensive place 511 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 9: that he was able to execute. And then with the 512 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 9: ball he was equally as damaging and asking just as 513 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 9: many of your questions. 514 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 5: Were always saying, he's a left hand, he's a right sander. 515 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: You play, well, this is what he does play. 516 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 8: That's what I thinks at this level, whether we picked 517 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 8: the trail next time, it doesn't matter. 518 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 7: What he didn't like it. 519 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 9: To your point about the fact that it took too 520 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 9: long to Jerry that there was an issue over on 521 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 9: that side, Niko was the one defending at right center 522 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 9: when Souali initially got sent. Now that's where he had 523 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 9: those the demons from twelve months earlier, right and he 524 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 9: struck ends again. 525 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 5: But it was an overlap. 526 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 2: It was they had an extra twelve players. Doesn't matter, 527 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: does it. 528 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 5: No, Well, what I'm saying is that you can't really 529 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 5: blame Nick. 530 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm not blaming him. 531 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 9: I'm saying it was a tough watch when you know 532 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 9: the history of Nico at that. 533 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: Buzz you can get to your point here about Lui. 534 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: You said that you were happily with something in his game. 535 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 8: Oh, I just read the stats fox Lab this morning. 536 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 8: Missed ten tackles this level. 537 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 9: It's you know how much how much you got a 538 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 9: factor in that they were reduced to twelve players. If 539 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 9: you look at some of the other players who missed 540 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 9: a lot of tackles in the game. 541 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: Leam Martin, I'll tell you why. 542 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 8: Because you just raised Nico going missing Niko missed four 543 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 8: tackles last sight n missed one in Adelaide and got drop. 544 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 5: He's got missed ten. 545 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 6: Last how many lads to tries that you missed. 546 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 9: Well, you've got to take that England as well. Sometimes 547 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 9: see that for example, Buzz he. 548 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Bounced someone else. You can't just look at the start 549 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: and go right, well, you know, you got to look 550 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: at the game. 551 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 5: It's helpful, it does. Someone's missed that man't. 552 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 9: But if you want to go look at Cornsland, Buzz, 553 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 9: then I missed nine tackles. Pat Carrigan missed six tackles. 554 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 9: You wouldn't say either of those players had poor games. 555 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 9: So I get where you're coming from. In relations to Drame, 556 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 9: I thought of the new cells halves. 557 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 5: He looked, missed that one, and he still. 558 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 6: I look far more and I haven't. 559 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: We moved on, But. 560 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 5: I can't keep your concentration level. 561 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 9: True, I'm just acting in the now, whereas you're still 562 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 9: three players behind. 563 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: Before you'd answer the question, all Smiley, who replaces him? 564 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: This is a this is a big one. Now this 565 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: changes a lot. So who replaces Joe? 566 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: Well Burton was in the squad, wouldn't he? It's Burton 567 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: or Latrell. They're the only two. 568 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 5: I think it's got to be Latrell. 569 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 8: And there was much conjecture about the Trail's availability before 570 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 8: the first game. I've made a few phone calls on 571 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 8: this and is there a problem between Madge and Latrell. 572 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 5: This is what happened. 573 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 8: Madge rang him up six weeks ago, said you're free 574 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 8: for a coffee talk about Origin. The trail was buried 575 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 8: and just coming off suspension, Buried in South wanted to 576 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 8: commit fully to him and said, look, I haven't If 577 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 8: I'm going good enough, I'm ready to play. I don't 578 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 8: know if Madge accepted that all that kindly saw it 579 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 8: just a little bit of a not a snub. But 580 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 8: is he keen it cast its seed down? 581 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 7: That's not a bad answer. 582 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I've let my club down, Souse with the 583 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: most spoken about club. I need to start playing some 584 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: good footy for my club. 585 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: She's not going to pick him because he didn't have 586 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: coffee with you, respectfully. 587 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: Look, is that what you're saying. 588 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 6: Latrell at his best, but can kick the door off 589 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 6: the hinges in Origin. We've seen him do it. We're 590 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 6: watching the highlights on the big screen. 591 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 9: Now I would say, I think he needs to go 592 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 9: out and play really powerful performances against the Gold Coach 593 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 9: this weekend and then also Brisbane the following weekend. And 594 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 9: if he's in a really good touch, then okay, you 595 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 9: look at it. But on the form that he's played 596 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 9: in so far this year, I don't think you could 597 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 9: have him. I think that Burton CATANEI Stags returns this weekend. 598 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 6: Okay, we're going to have to disagree with I. 599 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: Think I think what could help Latrell is, Yeah, they 600 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: need X factor and they need they need someone who 601 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: can break a game wide open, which he can. He 602 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: hasn't been in the best form this Year's getting a 603 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: little bit better in the next couple of games. 604 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 5: Good last last time. 605 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: But if they put him in the left center, then 606 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: they can put Burton on the bench, which therefore gives 607 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: him that that that options with Burton on the bench. 608 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: If Burton goes left center, who do you put sorry, 609 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: right center, who do you put or you put Crichtons 610 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: in burn Less, who do you put on the on 611 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: the bench. 612 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 5: Well, I was going to say, and I've got this 613 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 5: written down here. 614 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 8: I think Burton is an absolute must for the bench 615 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 8: to probably replace hola coat in that if our fullback 616 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 8: goes down, Crighton can drop to the back, Platrel can 617 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 8: drop to the back. Burton can play sane played five eight, 618 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 8: probably play lock forward, probably play an edge. And we 619 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 8: did get found out last night by Billy's bench And 620 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 8: do you follow on the blueprint of the Queens. It's 621 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 8: not all I'm saying. And in most representative sides, in 622 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 8: my experience, there has been a bit more versatility on 623 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 8: the bench than what we had last night. 624 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 6: Well, Madje roll the dos. 625 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 9: He took a gamble in that respect your spot on 626 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 9: Buzz and unfortunately the back forward once Joseph got off 627 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 9: in the Power Game, it went out the window. 628 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: He did okay down as Teddy, did he do enough 629 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: to hold his spot last night? Does Edwards just come 630 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: back into the team. 631 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 9: I thought he had some really nice touches, but I 632 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 9: think there were also some critical moments in the game 633 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 9: where his risked tip ons. He threw a poor pass 634 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 9: at one stage when they are in really good attacking 635 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 9: ball opportunity feel position the forty twenty, the DC cooked 636 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 9: kicked at another critical stage. He was probably just a 637 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 9: little bit out of position there. So now I'd be 638 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 9: going with Dylan Edwards. And that's no knock on Teddy. 639 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 9: He's an absolute champion. But I just think showed last night. 640 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 7: Will Dylan be right? Will he play again before Origin too? 641 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 6: There is talk that he will be back. He might 642 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 6: at a game in Yes. 643 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 8: What do you think I'm interested? You talk about the 644 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 8: Teddy tap on. The thing is we're so far behind Jim. 645 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 8: It was no safety first opportunity and look he had 646 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 8: to do something. But I do agree if Edwards's feed 647 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 8: he comes back. I think the good thing with that 648 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 8: is that Edwards was originally the team. 649 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 1: He trained with the team, and even with Heines, if 650 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: they decided to go with Moses, Moses would have been 651 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: picked if he'd played a game or two more before 652 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: that Origin one. So it's not like you're making a 653 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: huge decision. I could be wrong, but you're not making 654 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: a huge decision in dropping Heins if he was really 655 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: the second pick behind Moses in the first place. 656 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: And then you've got also Edwards coming in. 657 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 8: But the other thing is I don't think New South 658 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 8: Wales were disgraceful last night. Yeah that's what I thought, 659 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 8: And even midway through that second half. We're never going 660 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 8: to win in the contest. 661 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 7: Twenty ten before the forty. 662 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 8: Two that with twelve we don't have the most mass, 663 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 8: but we're talking about important money. 664 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's hard to kind of really look at 665 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: the game and try and take a lot from it 666 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: because of the house severe that one. 667 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 7: There was more positives than negatives for New South Wales. 668 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,239 Speaker 5: Way more positives coming from a Correensland right. 669 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: Well, like there were so to be down twelve men 670 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: for seventy two minutes in the state of origin. It's 671 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: hard enough with eighty and you saw how Queensland were 672 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: attacking them and they hung in there and at twenty 673 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 3: ten I got nervous. 674 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 8: There is pressure from Madge though, I feel I feel 675 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 8: there are a few blues made. 676 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: There always is, there always is. 677 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 5: I feel like sacking a coach all now I'm not. 678 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 5: There's just pressure. 679 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 8: The way Jake was used, the way Crichton took an 680 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 8: hour to get out of the other side, well it 681 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 8: did you know? 682 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: They're legitimate point. 683 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 684 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: I just think one or two changes keep the nucleus 685 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: of that team and they can bounce back. Thank you, buzz, 686 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: thank you going again. Thank you who've Suck Next, the 687 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: legends are in Billy Moore and j F two