WEBVTT - #1911 Meaningful Work - Toby Morrison

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<v Speaker 1>Tobias John Morrison. Welcome back to the You Project, your

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<v Speaker 1>big stud.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Craig Harper, Craig Anthony Harper. It's awesome to

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<v Speaker 2>me back. It's been been about a year since we

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<v Speaker 2>did our last interview.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a hot minute, bro. How are you? What

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<v Speaker 1>is going on? How is life? You're you're producing docos,

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<v Speaker 1>You're healing people all over the world, You're solving problems,

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<v Speaker 1>your bloody connecting all good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been it's been a busy year.

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<v Speaker 2>So my company, Sefer's Health, We've been helping a ship

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<v Speaker 2>ton of people all around the world. We're helping now

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<v Speaker 2>people in seventy eight countries. I think last time I

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to you, maybe we're in the forties. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>reaching countries that I've never heard of before.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, what give me one country that you

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<v Speaker 1>went fuck, I've never heard it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know the name of it. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's done with a Z. It's I had to ask

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<v Speaker 2>one of my team members the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Ambia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's that. I think it's Zambia. I

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<v Speaker 2>can find out there. We've got like a channel of

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<v Speaker 2>like the country, like the different countries that we help

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<v Speaker 2>people in because we can't keep up with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just like.

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<v Speaker 2>All these different flag flag colors I've never seen before,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's pretty it's pretty mind blowing because like we

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we're in an English speaking program. We help people

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<v Speaker 2>specifically with chronic fatigue syndrome, and like there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>people in our program which English is their second speaking language,

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<v Speaker 2>and like it's pretty courageous to like go through something

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<v Speaker 2>like chronic fatigue syndrome and then get help in a

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<v Speaker 2>second speaking language. I just like it blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't even speak a word of French and

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<v Speaker 2>here's French. People are asking me questions in English, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get help with with their life, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's very courageous.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Well, it also shows that how I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it shows, but I think maybe it shows

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<v Speaker 1>that one it's really needed, and two people are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like if the best help that they can get

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen to be in their first language, they're

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<v Speaker 1>still going to go for it. And it means, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>without blowing smoke up your us, you must be if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in seventy countries, seventy eight countries. It means you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing something good, you know, And it's like that giddy

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<v Speaker 1>up like we go into in the last month, we

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<v Speaker 1>went into ninety countries. It's a different thing because this

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<v Speaker 1>is just people listening to a free podcast. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've actually got members and you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's lazy. Yeah, And how think about when you and

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<v Speaker 1>I met, dude, like and we're just hanging out at

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<v Speaker 1>harper Is on the pan Highway and you're about fucking

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years old, and I knew, I knew fuck all,

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<v Speaker 1>we were just both making.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not true, that's not true. You you were my

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<v Speaker 2>you were my inspiration. A funny story the moment I

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<v Speaker 2>actually met you, I'd known you for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I read all your books and I actually printed

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<v Speaker 2>out every single blog article that you wrote. Back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day when blogs were cool, that was the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like now it's this it doesn't exist anymore. But blogs

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<v Speaker 2>were like crazy popular back then, and yours was really

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<v Speaker 2>really popular. And I remember going, I need to speak

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<v Speaker 2>to this guy, and so I called Harper's Gym when

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<v Speaker 2>I was like eighteen, and I was like, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a dream. I had a vision of exactly what I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do. I wanted to make sure that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>no one with chronic fatigue syndrome had to suffer like

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<v Speaker 2>I did alone. And I wanted to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>there was practical help in the world for people with CFS.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I called you and your assistant answered, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, you know, please talk to Craig uper like,

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing that you had a full book of clients

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<v Speaker 2>that you're seeing every day and all that. Anyway, somehow

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<v Speaker 2>I got on to you like you called me back eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>and you gave me a couple of minutes of your time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, you know, he said, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do, Champ? And I said, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to I want to be like you, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be like you specifically for people with chronic fatigue syndrome.

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<v Speaker 2>And you said, oh, yeah, cool, what degrees do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, no, I haven't even finished school yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And you just laughed and you're like, oh, listen, Champ,

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, go finish school and go to university

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<v Speaker 2>and then give me a call when you done. And

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<v Speaker 2>four years later, I was at a cafe in Hampton

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<v Speaker 2>and I walked in.

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<v Speaker 3>I forget what it was called.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the place I used to see that every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And I see you and I'm like, I almost got

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<v Speaker 2>stage front. I was like, oh my god, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy. That's Craig Harper. And I went to the

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<v Speaker 2>urinal and I'm standing at the urinal just like taking

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<v Speaker 2>a WII and I'm thinking to myself, I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him, like I've got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my moment, you know, like I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>at least say high and so doray.

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<v Speaker 3>I wash my.

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<v Speaker 2>Hands and I come out of the urinal and I

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<v Speaker 2>walked straight up to you and Johnny, which was your

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<v Speaker 2>right hand man at the time, both bald headed, shaved,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, thick, strong men.

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<v Speaker 3>And I put my hand down.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like Craig Harper and he said yeah. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, I don't know if you remember me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm the guy that called you six years ago

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<v Speaker 2>telling you that I wanted to be like you but

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<v Speaker 2>for people with chronic for Te syndrome. And you said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure if you remember it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but you said you did, and he said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember what are you doing now, I said, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>exactly that I've been, you know, helping people with chronic

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<v Speaker 2>ferte syndrome. I'm writing a book and this I think

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<v Speaker 2>I was two four at the time, and it's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>crazy to think, like it's been a long time since then.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty seven now, so that's like seventeen years has

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<v Speaker 2>gone by. And then I got to work under your

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<v Speaker 2>you know, your facility for a few years, which was

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<v Speaker 2>just amazing. And so now I've got a team of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four all around the world. We're helping thousands of people.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a headquarters now in nursa. I'm getting shimmers

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<v Speaker 2>down my spine. We're just through at least a documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels good. It feels really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Madam, And I don't say things I don't mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm super proud of you, and I know everybody

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to be part of our catch up, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't talk much. And we literally spoke for one

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<v Speaker 1>or two minutes before we started recording, and I went,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than do a debrief, let's just catch up on air.

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<v Speaker 1>And what we will talk about, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's real and it's organic, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>you know people kind of knowing people connect with that more.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was thinking when you said when you said

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<v Speaker 1>about the blog, I went, fuck, I haven't thought about

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<v Speaker 1>the blog, but yeah, you're right back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>This blows people away. Now, this is not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>putting Mayo on this. Everyone. I had eighty thousand subscribers,

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<v Speaker 1>and what that means is every time I wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>blog post, that would go to eighty thousand inboxes. So

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<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand people were email at subscribers. So if I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing an event in Melbourne, I never needed to

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<v Speaker 1>advertise or brand or market or pay any money or

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere because I had so many subscribers. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>one day I was heading up to Sydney. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you know this story, but I was heading

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<v Speaker 1>up to Sydney for a speaking gig. And so just

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning I said, hey, everyone, I'm doing a

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<v Speaker 1>gig today. I'm standing in Sydney tonight. I finished my

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<v Speaker 1>gig late so I'm going to be down in the

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<v Speaker 1>foyer of I forget I forget the name of the hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's right there on the harbor. And I said

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be down in the foyer at seven o'clock,

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<v Speaker 1>and if one of you turns up, or five or

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<v Speaker 1>ten of you turn up, I'm going to coffee with you,

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<v Speaker 1>or a diet coke with you, or you can drink

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<v Speaker 1>a beer. I don't drink whatever the fuck, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging out and talk shit for an hour. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was a thing that used to happen quite a

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<v Speaker 1>log a lot with blogs where you do basically meetups,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll call meetups. So I'm up in my hotel room.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just fucking around and I'm like, oh shit, it's

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes to seven, i'd better get down. Probably no

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<v Speaker 1>one will come, but fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>It, who cares.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred and thirty people turned up.

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<v Speaker 3>You're kidding? Yeah, you had.

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<v Speaker 2>Your engagement was like by the way, like now like

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<v Speaker 2>it's normal to have an email list, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not normal for everyone to open that email anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because everyone's getting bombarded with emails. But back then,

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon your your open rate would have been like

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<v Speaker 2>ninety percent, so like like seventy thousand people would actually

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<v Speaker 2>read your stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you had.

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<v Speaker 2>Your engagement was insane because no one else was doing

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<v Speaker 2>it like you were one of the only blogs. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was you and Leo Baptu who had then something.

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<v Speaker 2>There was only a couple of you guys around the

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<v Speaker 2>world that was doing it at that scale. It was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty It was life changing for me, like the content itself.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I'm so proud to ship out so

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<v Speaker 2>much free work in our world that we do as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, free trainings and resources can be life changing,

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<v Speaker 2>just like your blogs were for me. You know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things I'm so proud of about this new

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<v Speaker 2>documentary is it's free of charge. Cost us over one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars to produce, but it's totally free.

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<v Speaker 3>For any person who listens to it. And that feels

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good too.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell people what it's called and where to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the documentary is called Freedom Healing from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really it's intent was designed for the people of

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<v Speaker 2>the world who are suffering.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going through chronic fatigue syndrome where you know someone who is, like,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest problems is the isolation and mistreatment,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the silence of the medical industry. First and

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<v Speaker 2>foremost and then the family and friends who just don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand what the hell is going on with someone who

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<v Speaker 2>has got chronic fatigue. And so we you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that we really made purposeful was that it's about

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<v Speaker 2>the people. It's about hope, it's about understanding, it's about awareness,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's what the documentary is all about.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not about our actual.

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<v Speaker 2>Program that you know, the thousands of people in the

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<v Speaker 2>seventy eight countries have joined.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more about building awareness of like what chronic fetite

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<v Speaker 2>syndrome actually is, how it affects people. And then also

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<v Speaker 2>we showcase, you know, a bunch of different recovery stories

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<v Speaker 2>of all ages from zero to ten, all the way

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<v Speaker 2>up into people in the eighties. Just so no matter

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<v Speaker 2>who you are, awhere you're at, you can watch that

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<v Speaker 2>and go well, with Janet from Hawaii who's eighty four

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<v Speaker 2>can get better, then maybe I can too. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a short film. It's twenty it's twenty minutes long.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now available on YouTube at sipa's Health on our

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel, which is great tens of thousands of views

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<v Speaker 2>or in the last couple of days and just some

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<v Speaker 2>really nice comments like oh my god, my mum watched

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<v Speaker 2>this and like now she finally understands me more, and

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<v Speaker 2>like we've had a conversation about it. You know, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I've been crying for the last twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>because finally I feel seen and heard. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been struggling for thirty years and the doctor's just told

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<v Speaker 2>me I was making this up. Like there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>stories like this, and for me, that was the driver.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when I worked three years ago, when I

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<v Speaker 2>woke up one morning and I was like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to create a documentary, Like I just like woke up

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<v Speaker 2>and thought it'd be easy, and I thought it'd be.

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<v Speaker 3>A three week process. It took three years. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a lot of work, even a twenty minute documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it is insane how.

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<v Speaker 3>Much work it's like takes to get a film out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm glad I did it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, and also to produce something that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>high quality, great content, great editing, great visual, great audio,

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<v Speaker 1>great people like great messaging, like something that's a valuable

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<v Speaker 1>tool for people that you know that's going to just

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<v Speaker 1>live in cyber space. For the next however, many decades,

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<v Speaker 1>right where people can go back to It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>oh I did a workshop, now everyone's gone home and

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<v Speaker 1>that disappears into the ether. Like this is a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that'll live on. And the thing is, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you do, that you do for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>you build knowledge, skill, awareness, understanding, competence, and so if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever do another one, it'll be which we will. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a different process you'll do. You'll know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what not to do and what to do, and then

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<v Speaker 1>by the time you do your tenth one, you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking And I've watched it. It's great. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying, oh it was good. I'm not saying, oh

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<v Speaker 1>it was a pretty it was fucking great. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the way it was done, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it's world class. It's very good. Right, But it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like everything you know, it's like, how do you get

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<v Speaker 1>good at making documentaries? Well, not by reading a book.

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<v Speaker 1>You get good.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to be in the fire exactly, Yeah, you got.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't get good at what you're not

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing. Yeah, you want to do your research and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk to people, and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>plan and you want to prep and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>optimize everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But ultimately, you can't build.

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<v Speaker 1>A skill by avoiding the thing that builds skills. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well done, mate. I loved it. It's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm proud. I'm proud of you. You know that.

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<v Speaker 1>But and you don't need that from me, But I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I don't know. Maybe it's an Australian male thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but dudes don't tell tell their mates that we're out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. We don But I'm super proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. Yeah, what's it like, you know, being apart

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<v Speaker 1>from apart from helping all of these people and and

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<v Speaker 1>doing the great things that you're doing, you know, medically

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<v Speaker 1>and psychologically and sociologically with your your team, But what's

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<v Speaker 1>it like leading a team of people? Because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of almost your business is like an intersection

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<v Speaker 1>of like purpose and a humanitarian project and business because

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<v Speaker 1>you've still got to pay bills and you've still got

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone's got to feed their kids, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you've got you know, you and Brian and Sally,

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<v Speaker 1>who are two part timers, you've got twenty four staff

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<v Speaker 1>and I bet that's been a steepish learning curve.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the thing that drives me the most now, so

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<v Speaker 2>because the way I look at it, I've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>this way for a long time, you know, just like

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<v Speaker 2>you and your field. You know you've done it way

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<v Speaker 2>longer than me, don't you know. If not telling you

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<v Speaker 2>how old you are, but you know you've champ exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know you said the same things over and

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<v Speaker 2>over for seventeen years. It's it's repetitive the results, and

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<v Speaker 2>never you do things with the result, right, So when

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<v Speaker 2>you see someone get their life back or they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you know, Toby, I went from being

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<v Speaker 2>in a wheelchair and not being able to leave my

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<v Speaker 2>home to traveling the world and falling pregnant when my

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<v Speaker 2>doctor said I couldn't fall pregnant. You know, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>the things that make you tear up and go, this

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<v Speaker 2>is worth it. But on the daily level for me,

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<v Speaker 2>my team and my why because and it's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>personal development thing that I probably learned from you many

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, is like I get off on seeing other

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<v Speaker 2>people grow, and when you see them, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a little bit timid, they don't have that

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<v Speaker 2>much confidence, and then a year later they're like they

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<v Speaker 2>own the stage. You know, they know exactly what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>My general manager's been with me for she's been in

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<v Speaker 2>this role for I think three years now, and it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like we've been together for thirty years, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>working together. Her evolution is just insane and like every

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<v Speaker 2>new level is a new devil. And it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the way business works is like when you grow,

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<v Speaker 2>it just creates more bottlenecks, and then your job is

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<v Speaker 2>to solve that bottleneck in the moment that ultimately getting

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<v Speaker 2>the way of, you know, doing the job that you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do, which is to help people get their

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<v Speaker 2>life back. But when you've got twenty fourteen in so

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<v Speaker 2>many different departments, there's a lot of moving pieces. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is what people don't know about running a purpose

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<v Speaker 2>driven business. It's it's not about numbers, you know, at

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<v Speaker 2>the first sight. You know, it's not like a real

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<v Speaker 2>estate company where it's like, all right, if we sell

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<v Speaker 2>this house for this much, this is how much we get.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, first of.

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<v Speaker 2>All, how can we make the biggest impact in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's why we started this whole thing, and how

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<v Speaker 2>can we keep that intent this whole way through as we.

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<v Speaker 3>Grow and help more people.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'd liken it to like a horse and

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<v Speaker 2>like we've had to rain the horse in and hold

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<v Speaker 2>that horse for dear life sometimes and just really pull

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<v Speaker 2>it in, because for me, I would rather have a

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<v Speaker 2>higher quality service than to help more people at a

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<v Speaker 2>shittier rate and get shittier results. And so one of

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<v Speaker 2>my weird goals or I guess intentions, is I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to walk into any coffee shop in

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<v Speaker 2>the world and someone come to me and say, Toby Morrison,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for your work had changed my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Versus I could probably help one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred thousand more people right now, but at a much

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<v Speaker 2>lower quality rate, and therefore people would be upset, they

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't feel like they got value. And for me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not worth any price for that, Like I just wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wouldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you're talking about in a way, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about when to grow and expand, or when to open

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<v Speaker 1>my doors, when to keep them closed for the money,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it? Yeah, And timing, Like there's timing, there's

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<v Speaker 1>practical stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>There's reading, timing is everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So this documentary was ready two years ago, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>been it's been held for two years.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we weren't ready to release it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so what happened that you went now is the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Readiness for the team.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, this documentary is going to reach hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people as soon to be millions, and we

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<v Speaker 2>can't have an influx of a thousand people if we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a solid team to support those people. And so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, naturally, because the word gets out and more

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<v Speaker 2>people are finding our work around the internet and they

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<v Speaker 2>come to us and like, hey, you know, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get your services. And it's like, all right, well,

0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.560
<v Speaker 2>we need to have a department in every area, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, just recently, we just introduced individualized accountability and

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<v Speaker 2>support coaching throughout their entire journey.

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<v Speaker 3>Before that didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>They only had access to group coaching calls, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, there's been pivotal key decisions over time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's all based off integrity. Like it's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, what's the what would integrity say? Integrity wou say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>these people need one on one support and coaching Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how can you make that work?

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<v Speaker 3>And then we've got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Figure out how can we make it work. Then we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to train the people. We've got to create a

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<v Speaker 2>curriculum and a program to train the team to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure they're world class. They're supported, but they can also

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<v Speaker 2>support the team. But you know what's really cool, like

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<v Speaker 2>that question of like what's it like with the team.

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<v Speaker 2>One of our team members, Lauren Gmarco in America, in

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<v Speaker 2>New York, because we have a team all around the world, England,

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<v Speaker 2>New York, you know, everywhere. She quit her corporate job

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty years to come across to Sefa's Health. She did,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety percent of our people who work for Sefa's Health

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<v Speaker 2>now did our program, got better, got their life back,

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<v Speaker 2>went to do their own expertise, and then I brought

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<v Speaker 2>them in at a certain time when I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it was the right right thing for that person. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I needed a spot field for client success, I

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<v Speaker 2>think my mind's I've got great memories. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>who would be great at this job? I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>Lauren Gmrco. She did a success interview a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what she's up to. Heytoby, I'm just doing

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<v Speaker 2>corporate like I'm finding a bit boring. I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 2>more purpose. And I was like, well, I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>really good position and I think would suit you. Now

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<v Speaker 2>what's crazy is Lauren g She like this morning, I

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<v Speaker 2>think she was up at four am doing calls from

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<v Speaker 2>New York for our Australian clients and like never complains.

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<v Speaker 2>We always check and hey, like we want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you work lads, okay, we don't want to overwork.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to make sure that you've got a good

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<v Speaker 2>balance in your life too. She's like, no, I freaking

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<v Speaker 2>love it, Like give me, give me more. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like no, no, no, we're not going to give you

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<v Speaker 2>more because we want you to have a good life too.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's like, I love it so much. It fills

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<v Speaker 2>me up with so much purpose and joy. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think she was so starved at that for twenty years

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<v Speaker 2>in corporate that she's just like, I'll do anything perceive

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<v Speaker 2>herself like she's just a yes woman who's just like

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<v Speaker 2>I love this work. It invigorates me, it gives me energy,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's what I love. Just like I just

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<v Speaker 2>love that energy of just like seeing someone go from

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<v Speaker 2>like a job they don't like to a job they

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely love and they wear it with a badge of honor.

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<v Speaker 3>It is just like, it's pretty fucking cool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's trying to find the spot where you

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<v Speaker 1>best fit and trying to trying to find the job

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<v Speaker 1>or the career or the space where it doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a job or a career like where you're oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a thing that I do. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>this right now, like this show is sponsored sponsors. We're

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<v Speaker 1>on the Nova platform. This is ridiculous. I'm catching up

0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 1>with a mate. We're talking about stuff that hopefully we're

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>both fascinated in and so hopefully the audience are mildly

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 1>interested in. And this is part of my job. This

0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:15.000
<v Speaker 1>is an every day of the week. I do this.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's nothing about this that feels like work. And

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners are sick of me saying that, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just true. So yeah, and when you get the right

0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:28.240
<v Speaker 1>person in the right role, then it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that there's never problems, but it moves closer towards effortless.

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<v Speaker 1>It's effort less, but it gets closer to that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent, and you know, there's some team members right now

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<v Speaker 2>that I need to move around or potentially even let

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<v Speaker 2>go of soon, you know. And and I look at

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<v Speaker 2>that as like perfect too, because it's like whether someone

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<v Speaker 2>stays or goes, it doesn't really matter as long as

0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.480
<v Speaker 2>they're growing as a person. That's all I really care about.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'll never hold on to someone who who

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<v Speaker 2>in the right fit or doesn't feel like they're the

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.919
<v Speaker 2>right fit. And it's like, no, my job here is

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:06.200
<v Speaker 2>to help you grow as a human.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If that means within sea for self, awesome, And if

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<v Speaker 2>it means it's not, then awesome too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the biggest lesson is the hard conversations. I think

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<v Speaker 2>something that I've probably gotten a lot better at is

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<v Speaker 2>just like having the composure and the capacity with just

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<v Speaker 2>being able to sit down and have direct, hard conversations

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<v Speaker 2>in a loving way and only good has come from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's never been a time when a hard conversation

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<v Speaker 2>there hasn't been good come from it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting because like some of what we do

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<v Speaker 1>as leaders and bosses and even just as friends, right,

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:48.040
<v Speaker 1>it can be emotional because you're talking, especially when you

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<v Speaker 1>start to with somebody feedback, right, Like everybody wants feedback

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<v Speaker 1>until they get feedback.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, everyone's good feedback. Tell me what I did? Yeah,

0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 3>unless unless you're like a top leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Because for me, I want to hear what I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>good at, Like, I don't care about what I'm good at, Like,

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 2>just tell me what I could do better. That's my

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<v Speaker 2>always my question to my GM. Yeah you must be

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Look, I mean I'm trust me. There's no bigger

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.280
<v Speaker 1>critic of me than me, So I fucking I say

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<v Speaker 1>that all the time, right, And that's okay. But being

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<v Speaker 1>able to share people, share with people in a way

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's truthful and insightful. And obviously your perspective of

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 1>me is not mine, right, So you have you have

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.639
<v Speaker 1>a level of objectivity about Craig Harper that Craig Harper

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<v Speaker 1>can never have because I've never sat in a room

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<v Speaker 1>and watched me speak. I've never been on a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with me and been asked questions like, I've never hung

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.440
<v Speaker 1>out in a staff room at Harper's like you did

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>many times with me. Right, So, and this is the

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't see things as they are. We

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.400
<v Speaker 1>see things as we are a nas nin right, So

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to We're trying to find that that common

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<v Speaker 1>ground where look, we can have a hard conversation and

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't become emotional or inflammatory or but we I mean,

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>if we are and I think most of my audience

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<v Speaker 1>had this right, if you are really a person who

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<v Speaker 1>actually wants to grow and learn and evolve and whatever

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>that means for you, become a better version of you physically, mentally, emotionally, socially, spiritually,

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.640
<v Speaker 1>whatever all that stuff means for you, and you are

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<v Speaker 1>not open to feedback, well, none of the previous stuff's

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 1>going to happen, you know, because you now there's a

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>difference between self awareness and acknowledgment and self loathing. I'm

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.919
<v Speaker 1>a fucking idiot, you're right, Toby, I am an idiot.

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm dog shit tote. No, that's not it.

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:45.720
<v Speaker 3>That's not zero of that. No, we don't have any

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 3>of that.

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's just trying to Okay, so here we are.

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I see. Here's firstly, here's what you're doing. Great,

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of good stuff. There's some stuff that

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I reckon you need to think about. And this one

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>thing that you do from the outside looking in it's

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>essentially self desis structure. Let's talk about that, you know,

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and then oh, yeah, exactly.

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 2>My mentor calls it the art of enrollment, right, So,

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 2>and he taught me really well, he's actually now he's

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>in the house seat his help, which has just been phenomenal.

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 3>John Mars shout out to you, John.

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<v Speaker 2>But I work with John one on one for five years,

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and one of the things he taught me early on

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 2>in leadership was like, how you enroll someone matters. So

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I used to be someone who's like quite a hothead

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.919
<v Speaker 2>and just like makes decisions super fast, doesn't enroll anyone

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:32.640
<v Speaker 2>along the journey's like all right, this is what we're doing,

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>let's go, and then my poor team would have to

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 2>pick up all the mess and then I'd have to

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>figure out what the broken parts were and then we'd

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 2>solve it together. But now it's like, we enroll with

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the ideas. First, Hey, this is what I'm thinking of doing.

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about this? And we get we

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 2>get an invitation out right, and then the team mem

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 2>because yeah, I feel good about this, and then we

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 2>can get into it. Or if it's a hard conversation, Hey, Craig, today,

0:24:58.359 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 2>look today, I'm going to put on my boss out

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:01.959
<v Speaker 2>right now, we're going to put the friends hat off

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 2>just for a moment.

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have a proper chat.

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 2>You know. He's okay if you've got fifteen minutes to

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 2>have a quick chat about your specific role, and then

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 2>you're preparing them, and then there's this two way communication

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 2>of like, all right, let's just have this conversation. It's

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 2>got nothing to do with our personal lives, got nothing

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 2>to do with Toby Morrison hating me or anything like that.

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just a professional conversation. So I like the business cap.

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 2>My auntie gave me that tool, which was just like,

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 2>put the business hat on. I've got the boss had on,

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>put your staff hat on, and let's have a chat. Yeah,

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>And it's been that's been really powerful too, so.

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.439
<v Speaker 1>Much so much we spoke recently. I can't remember. I

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>do so many of these. I can't remember who it

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>was with, but we're talking about oh I know exactly.

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.360
<v Speaker 1>It was actually my Monday night mentoring group, and we're

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about last Mondays, not the one just gone, but

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the one before. It was all around communication, connection and

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>relationships and like communication is such a multi dimensional thing. Right,

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.199
<v Speaker 1>it's like what you say, it's how you say it,

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's when you say it, it's timing, its context that situation.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Is anyone else listening? Do they want to hear this?

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>So they read? How do I get them ready to

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>hear this? What language should I use? You know? Do

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I need to use metaphor and storytelling? Or can I

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:17.360
<v Speaker 1>jump straight to the points or whatever? Right? And many times,

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>so Toby used to work at Harper's, my biggest gym

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>on the Highway, doing his own thing under my banner.

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>But so you remember how big that joint was, right,

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>And there were so many times when I would have

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>to have I would see a trainer do like it

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't on a daily basis, but over the course of

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>a year, I mean we did tens of thousands of

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>sessions and I would see someone do something on the

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>gym floor that wasn't okay. Right, I'm like, that's not okay.

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 1>But the tough thing was I couldn't walk up. I

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 1>couldn't walk up and go, hey, mate, what the fuck

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? I couldn't go, hey, that's not okay,

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that's unprofessional, that's whatever was right. And then on top

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>of that, well, I need to find the right time,

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and I need to you know, if I walk up

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>to them and say listen, even if I walked up

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and said, when you finish, can you come to my office, well,

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>that's going to create emotional turmoil for them.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Right exactly?

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, then I'm likely you had a lot of

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 2>you had how many you probably had it? I don't

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>know how many trainers, maybe thirty at one point, thirty

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>to forty, and then they're training, so there's like eighty

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 2>to one hundred people in the gym at one time,

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>and I can't imagine that dynamic.

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>You almost have to have quarterly catch ups.

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Basically, it would be the only way to do it

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>professionally without shit hitting out there.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And then sometimes I would have to because

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 1>they've done something that's not okay, because if you do

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that tomorrow, we're fucked, right, So I'd just say, hey mate,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>no drama, can you come see me when you're And

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>even just doing that, that'd come in like with their

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>tail between their legs, like fucking intrepidation. And it would

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>depend like with one person, I could say, hey mate,

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>when you do this, that look shit for these reasons,

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>so don't do that, and they'd go, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah,

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>all good, I got no drama, Just don't do it.

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>They're like fine, I'm like see ya, like thirty seconds.

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>And then someone else I'd have to we'd have to

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>go to you know, like Sydney via fucking the Philippines

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to get to the to get to the actual point,

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 1>because I thought, if I just say it, there's going

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to be a meltdown. So when you're sharing, even when

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:35.719
<v Speaker 1>you're sharing what something that is unemotional, it's just like,

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>this is just based on the data. This is just

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>based on what I've seen, and this is why it

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>won't work, and this is what I would like you

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to do. And these are the reasons why most of

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the time you can't just say it that way because

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously you've got a factor in you know, who you're

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>talking to.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And also, like what I've learned, it's a little

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 2>bit different to the gym floor. If it's like technique base,

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, fixing technique and things that are pretty easy

0:28:59.240 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 2>to fix.

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but if there's a.

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.479
<v Speaker 2>Behavioral problem, that usually the problem's not the problem, Like

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>what I found, So like if someone's off at the moment,

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like I had a team member probably a month and

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>a half ago.

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I could feel he was off.

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>He was just off, not himself, not doing a great job,

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 2>great person, lovely energy, you know, like really good guy,

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>but just off. And it didn't matter how much training

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 2>we were giving him. We were trying so many different angles,

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>or I was trying so many different angles.

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, this is none of this is working.

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 3>So I just sat down.

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what's going on, Yeah, talk to me.

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 2>What's going on in your personal life? Are you feeling flat?

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Are you?

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.719
<v Speaker 2>And it all came out, you know, there's some personal

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 2>shit going on. And that way then we could I

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>could understand him better, I could support him better, and

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>then we could get to the root of the problem

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and solve it together versus me going you need to

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>do this training or you need to be more like this.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>And I found that really helpful. Firstly, just checking in

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>are you okay? Like his everything going on, and even

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 2>with me when I'm not in a good way, you know,

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>like I've got a very close relationship with my GM

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 2>ash Ashley Ward, and if I'm not in a good

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>state for a period of time, she'll know and I'll

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 2>have to say to her, and I don't have to

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>go into details with her, but I'll say this bit

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 2>of personal stuff's going on right now, and this is

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 2>why I'm feeling the way I'm feeling, and it's got

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with you. Yeah, and it's like okay,

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>like it takes the pressure off.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 2>The other awesome tip that I got with team was

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 2>from Len Warson. You know Len Wawson from he owns

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Glennville Holmes. I think he did a radio He's done

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 2>radio ads and stuff like that. So Len Wowson very

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>successful businessman. I helped his daughter with Croning Fatis in

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Drome get better many years ago. I think it was

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>like fourteen years ago or something, and we became really

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 2>close friends and he kind of mentored me for a

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>long time. And I said, and I sat in his

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>office once. He had one hundred staff in his in

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>his wherever it was Corefield or whatever, and I sat

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>in his office. I was like, how the hell? And

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I was so young then, like I'd never had staff before.

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like, how the hell do you deal with

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 2>all these people? Like like how do you say hi

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>to a hundred people to get to your offer? Like

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I literally said that quite. I'm like, what do you

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 2>do every morning? Do you have to say hi to everyone?

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>He's like, fuck no, He's like, I don't say hi

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to anyone. He's like, you had to say hi to everyone,

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 2>It'd take me an hour to get to my office.

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 2>So I just like, I walk in the door and

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I go straight to my office. I was like okay,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>and I said, well, what's the trick to keeping staff happy?

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>And he said, you have to you have to understand

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>their personal goals, and then you have to weave your

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>business into their personal goals. He said, most people come

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>into my office and ask for more money because they

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>see that I'm making more money now.

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 3>He was a super successful guy.

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, beautiful home, nice cars, all that jazz, and

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 2>so obviously the stuff look up to him and go oh, like,

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I want what he's got, So I need

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>to make more money. And they'd coming like, oh, you

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>can I have a pay rise? And he says, I

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>can't give you a pay rise, but let me sit

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 2>down with you for an hour and let's figure out

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 2>an investment plan and for you to purchase more property

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 2>so you can become wealthy over time. Tell me your goals,

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and so he'd sit down with every single one. I

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>think it was every six months or every twelve months

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>he'd do like a review, but a lot of it

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>was like forty five minutes purely on them, And so

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I do that. Now we've got a spreadsheet of every

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>single team member's personal goals, their hobbies, their passions outside

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 2>of work, because that's really important too, you know, like

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>it's not about us, it's about them. Like you, you're

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the one doing the work. So it's like, hey, how

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 2>can I help you win it?

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Your life? What do you want to do?

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 2>You want to travel, all right, Let's figure out a

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 2>way that you can travel and work at the same time.

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>You want to build a garden, all right, how can

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>we support you with time to do that with your lifestyle?

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>You want to make more money, all right, Let's figure

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>out a way you can add more value to the world.

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>So there's just everyone, and everyone's different. That's the other

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>crazy part, like not everyone has the same goals, you know, yeah, mate,

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 2>that's there's.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of wisdom for a thirty seven year old man.

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot of insight there, and there's

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the truth. Is that everyone that works

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>for you is has their own version of what success

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>is and what is good and what is bad, and

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>what is desirable and what is undesirable. And you know,

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>as we were just kind of illuminating with the way

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that I would approach different people on the gym floor.

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>You can have a conversation with Sally which lights her up,

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and you have the same conversation with somebody else and

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>it confuses the fuck out of them or it agitates them,

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>or you know whatever. Right, So I think one of

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the things that, like what you were telling us about

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>len is brilliant, and also what you're doing is brilliant

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>because you're seeing the You're seeing the people as just

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>human beings, as psychological, emotional, sociological creatures that just happen

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>to work with you in this organization rather than cogs

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in a machine whose purpose is to make you more money.

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>But no, fuck that, yeah, yeah, and that. Like so

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>when I do briefing calls, like as you know, I

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of corporate and sometimes sometimes I'll say

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>so like they maybe the person I'm talking to doesn't

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>even really know what I do or who I am.

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>They've been recommended me and so I'm somebody's booked me.

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So I'll talk to old mate who's organizing the conference,

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 1>or maybe the CEO or the MD or whoever he

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>or she is, right, and I'll go, so what do

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you know? What do you talk about? And I say, well,

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to talk about your business or your

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>brand or how you should be better at making widgets

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>because I've never made a fucking widget. Right. So, but

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.439
<v Speaker 1>everyone that works for you, everyone that works for you,

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, has got beliefs and values and dreams and

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>passion and years and anxiety, and everyone that works for

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you as a human. And I'm really fucking good with humans. Right,

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>So we're going to talk about the human experience, and

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about physical, mental, emotional, social, and

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>spiritual health. Right Because here's what I know. If we

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>don't talk about the business or the bottom line, or

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the systems or the culture or all of that stuff,

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe culture, but if we talk to your people about.

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Them, and which is culture, by the way, yep.

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>And our intention is we want to help you be

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a better version of you so that your life's better.

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>You're better, you're less stressed, less anxious, and you love

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>getting out of bed every morning. And so the thinking

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>is that if somebody shows up at work and before

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>they even show up at work they're physically, mentally, emotionally

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>exhausted or a version of that, well, not only are

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>they going to hate being at work, not only they're

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>not going to be good for you, they're not going

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>to be good for them. So we don't need to

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>focus on productivity or efficiency or bottom line. We can

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>just help people look after themselves. And one that's genuine,

0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>We actually really want to help you. So you're a

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>better employee, just so you're better whatever better means for

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you. You might be a better dad, better mum, bet a sister,

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>better brother, better care, whatever it is. And so by

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>having these very people focused relationships within the context of

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a business, you're actually building the business without trying to

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>build the business. You're actually doing good for the operating systems.

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>You're actually doing good for the clients and the customers

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and the culture and the morale without even mentioning morale

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>or culture exactly.

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Dan Martel says, build the people who build the business.

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not really you know, I don't really classify

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 2>myself as a business guy. It's more just we're just

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 2>mission driven and so what's really interesting My goal, my

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>job is two things. It's to help my people win, yeah,

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>and help them become more of themselves.

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And we're another perfect example Korein. Coach Korein, she's a mate.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Shout out Krein if you were listening to this. She

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.919
<v Speaker 2>came into the headquarters probably three months four months ago.

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 3>She was new.

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 2>She was she's been six months with us, so first

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 2>two months she was doing I thought she was doing great.

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>She comes into the office we have a catch up,

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:12.919
<v Speaker 2>and said, how are you doing with her? And she goes,

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm funny. I'm just like getting overwhelmed and like really

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:17.959
<v Speaker 2>like you know, nervous.

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:18.720
<v Speaker 3>Before our big calls.

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 2>We've got a lot of the hundreds of members coming

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>on and I just I just don't know if I'm

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 2>doing like a good enough job. And I said, well,

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 2>what are you comparing to? She goes, I'm comparing it

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 2>to coach Gemma, who's like a little bit higher than her.

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, you know, Jemma has a certain style

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 2>and she and all the clients love her. And and

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:37.879
<v Speaker 2>I said, how hold on a second. I said, stop there.

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.919
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm not. I didn't ask you to join

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 2>CFS Health Team to be Gemma. I hired you because

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 2>you're Carinne and you're amazing at being Carinne. And she's

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 2>she's goofy, she's funny, she's she's smart, she's she's got

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 2>great coaching frameworks. And I was like, I hired you

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 2>for you, So what I need you to do? He's

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 2>been all of you on those calls. I want you

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to bring you quickiness, I want you to bring your

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 2>fun and you could see like the pressure just like

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 2>completely evaporated from her entire being. And the next week

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>she had a call coaching call with the big group

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 2>and she sent me a text she goes, oh my god,

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>that was just amazing.

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yeah, because I'm asking you to

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 2>be more of who you are, fuck being Jemma. Jemma's amazing.

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I love Gemma and we all love Gemma. But I

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't hire you to be like Gemma. I hired you

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 2>because you're amazing as you are, and so I think

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 2>that's really special too, Like that's what kind of is

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the juice for me is just like helping people again

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 2>grow more of themselves in themselves versus.

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Trying to be someone you're not.

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, so on all interviews that we have, like

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, every interview we have with new team members,

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>that's the first thing I say, You're not coming in

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 2>to be more like Tobby Morrison or Ash or anyone else, Like,

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.919
<v Speaker 2>We're hiring for you for you, And that's isn't that nice?

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 2>So you can just like breathe a sigh of relief

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>of not having to try to be anyone else but yourself.

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>This is probably a weird question, but do you ever

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>work with health slash wellness slash fitness professionals who work

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 1>in other spaces and places to even just to give

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 1>them a one or two hour kind of intro to

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>like a little bit of an education and awareness around

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>chronic fatigue, Like is that a thing that you go

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>in We.

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Get asked a lot to do.

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I decline it right now just because we've got so

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 2>much stuff on right now with the DOCCO and the

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 2>second book coming out, But it's probably something we should do,

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>really like it would be pretty helpful for physios and

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 2>ots And have.

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 1>You ever thought of I mean, well, I've got a

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit of an idea about how this would work

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>because I co wrote the first PT accreditation.

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah we should talk about this, by the way.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Most of the work, but you know, like writing an

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 1>accreditation for people to become chronic fatigue coaches, coaches, you

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>know where people can go and do a cert three

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>in that or so.

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so again being on the radar for ten years.

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 2>But my biggest fear with that is quality control. Like

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 2>there's we get asked every single week like how can

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I you know, how can I get the training? Like

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 2>how can I be become a coach? And we're so

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>selective of who we actually bring in house because obviously

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>we are world class. But my worries imagine if we

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 2>have a thousand people, right, because we could easily get

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 2>a thousand people who would pay for a certification, and

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 2>then they start randomly shouting from the tree tops all

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 2>this stuff that isn't the stuff we actually taught, that

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 2>actually isn't right for recovery. I just could added for

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 2>me personally, I don't think I could have my name

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 2>on it. It worries me too much that they do

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 2>too much damage to the individuals they try and help,

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 2>and it actually it's counterproductive. And that's I mean, I

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 2>could be wrong. I'm happy to be challenging that. But

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 2>that's my biggest year.

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I actually think that's a really good points quality control,

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>city control. As soon as you said that, I went, yeah.

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 2>It's the wild wild West, Like as soon as someone like, oh, yeah,

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm a CEEF, it's health coach. I can coach anybody,

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and like we see it. We see it at the moment,

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Like people do our program, they get better and they go, oh,

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I want to do what Toby does. So I'm just

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 2>going to start calling myself a coach, a chronic FATI

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 2>coach because I've gotten better with no training, no no

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 2>understanding of like human behavior or psychology or even physiology,

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 2>and and they just it's just not it doesn't feel

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 2>it's out of integrity. And so that's my big quality controls,

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>our biggest worry. And even with our actual coaches, we

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 2>have a very thorough on boarding process. They have to

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 2>go through our in house certification just to be a

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 2>coach in house, right, and then they're training every single

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.879
<v Speaker 2>month like ongoing. There's never a month, there's no training

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 2>every single week. There they have to do a review

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 2>of what they did great, what their favorite Clyde win

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 2>was what their favorite coaching win was, and then a

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 2>lesson and an inside that they can take into next

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 2>week as well.

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing, amazing. Well mate, I'm proud of you. You're

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>doing great things. We'll wind it up, but before we go,

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>so's the what's one of the things that from sixteen

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>year old you to thirty seven year old you that's

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>like been one of the biggest I guess light bulbs

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>or revelations or lessons for you, Like what do you

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>what do you now know that's kind of been a

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit transformational that you learned along the way. And

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's a million things, but what might be

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>near the top of the list. What do you know

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>now that you never knew that you think also maybe

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people don't know business, Yeah, business,

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>or people or life stuff or philosophical stuff. I mean,

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've become a lot more philosophical and

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>spiritual in the last few years, and you're kind of

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>there's been a door that's opened in you know.

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Interesting mind. Yeah that's interesting. Yeah, well I'm glad to

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 3>say that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think for me, you know, I started, I

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>started from a place of willpower.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wow, Yeah, that's such an interesting thing to say.

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard anyone say that.

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I started from a place of willpower, right, So I

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 2>believe that, you know, it's up to you if you

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 2>want to get it done, you've got to do it yourself.

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 3>And that's true, that is true.

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 2>You have choice and you've got you've got to be

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>empowered and all that. I think willpower only takes you

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 2>a certain to a certain level. And I got to

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 2>a point probably three years ago where you know, I

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 2>grew seefer self to a place that I never you

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 2>know that i'd always dreamed of, you know, had a

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 2>big team. We're helping thousands of people. It's you know,

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 2>it's it's helping people all around the world. It's successful.

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 2>But I was empty and I was so soulfully depleted

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 2>in my soul. And I had all these goals and

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I was hitting them, but I was miserable, and they

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 2>were like, they were good goals, they weren't necessarily selfish goals,

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 2>they were selfless goals, but nonetheless it felt.

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 3>It just didn't feel that good. And I was like,

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 3>it was super weird.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm not really a religious person, never really believed

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>in God. I kind of my quote back in the

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.399
<v Speaker 2>day when I was sixteen was God helps those who

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 2>helps themselves.

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I used to read that to myself when I was sixteen,

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 2>even though I wasn't religious, because it was like, the

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 2>only person that can do it is you. And then

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 2>about three years ago I started asking this question, God,

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.879
<v Speaker 2>what do you need from me today?

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:47.760
<v Speaker 3>So I'd wake up every.

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Morning and just like sit at the edge of my

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 2>bed just before i'd drink my two glasses of water,

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'd say, you know, God, what do you need

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 2>from me today? And it wasn't like, you know, it's

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>not like I'm reading the Bible or you know, it's

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 2>my version of what God is. And I was basically

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>just connecting to something higher than me, kind of letting

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.280
<v Speaker 2>go of this control of like I have to will

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 2>power everything. And I got some really interesting insights, like

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's one morning it'd be like you need

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 2>to be a better leader and listen better. Other times

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 2>it was like stop trying to reach outcomes and just

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>be more. And then I got so pissed off with

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 2>all those goals that I rubbed all them off the

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 2>wyboard in.

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 3>The in the office. And then I just wrote words

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 3>of how I wanted the company to be.

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 2>So it was like loyalty, you know, inclusive, culture, integrity,

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>like we just had all these words, and then that's

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.240
<v Speaker 2>when everything started to shift, Like that's when I started

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 2>to operate differently, like from a place of like being

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 2>versus like doing doing doing. And it's still a lesson

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 2>to this day of like I'm calling it relaxation in motion.

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 2>He's kind of like how I'm trying to operate these

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 2>days versus like always in my head of like all right,

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>we just got to do this. We've got to do this.

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 2>And per example is delaying the documentary until it felt

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 2>right in our bodies, you know, Like and my leadership

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 2>team same things. Like we just ask each other questions,

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 2>how does it feel for you, Yeah, it feels good.

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 2>How does it feel for you? Oh, it feels a

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 2>bit off for me, Toby, And these are why. These

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 2>are the three reasons why. And then we have a

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 2>discussion about it and we all get on the same

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 2>page of it has to feel good in our bodies

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 2>and it has to feel like it's coming from a

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 2>place of integrity and good intent, and then we say

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 2>yes from there and if it's not, then we will

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>just say no.

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny because you and I there's there's a

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of commonality and overlap I had. I've spoken about

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it many times, but a bit of an epiphany when

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I was around the same age.

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell me about that at say again, tell me

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 2>about that, because I think so. I think that's why

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I related to you so much.

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, there was one stage where I had I

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:56.959
<v Speaker 1>had a gym in Hampton, a gym in core Field,

0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a gym in Brighton. I had two other businesses that

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.760
<v Speaker 1>were at a beauty salon with a bunch of ladies

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>working in and I had another business. So I had

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:07.839
<v Speaker 1>five freestanding like.

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 3>You owned a beauty seal on.

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't work in their clear

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't benefit from any of the services. Stop

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:20.839
<v Speaker 1>being fucking rude, you're still do. It was very funny though,

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, no, I agree, hilarious. But the bottom line

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>was at that stage I had about one hundred staff.

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I had five businesses. They're all making money. I was

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 1>writing for the Herald Son, I was writing my first book.

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I was working in radio. I had a pretty big profile.

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I was seen as something of a minor superstar in

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the fitness industry, right, or maybe a little bit bigger

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>than that, right, Yeah, big fish, small pond, all that shit, right.

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 1>And from the outside looking in, my life was fucking Hollywood,

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. It was Hollywood, cars, motorbikes, beach, house, house,

0:47:58.440 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>all this.

0:47:58.719 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Shit, right.

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And so there's a big difference between the appearance of

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 1>success and the experience that an individual is having in

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the middle of what appears to be a successful paradigm,

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a successful outcome, a successful life. And so I was,

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 1>depending on your KPI, depending on how you would measure it,

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I was simultaneously successful and bankrupt. I was mentally, emotionally

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and spiritually bankrupt. So I told my group on Monday

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>night this, and I apologize to my listeners who have

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>heard it. But right now you can see this spiral

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>bound book in front of me and the pen. Every

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>night I would take one of those to bed because

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I knew that I would wake up multiple times in

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the night worried about something, thinking about something, solving a problem,

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and if I couldn't get it out of my head

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and onto the page, I couldn't sleep. I would literally

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>do that between five and ten times a night for

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 1>two years. Wow, I was fucking exhausted. And then I'd

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>rock up to work and I'd bounce around like happy Gilmore,

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, fighting and pretending I was all And it

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that I was doing anything inherently evil or bad.

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I was just I was personally living out of alignment.

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like I was pretending that, well, not really pretending,

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 1>but like I can do business, and I can make

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>lots of dough, and I can be entrepreneurial, but it's

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>not my calling. It's not my purpose, it's not my reason,

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not my reason, it's not what for me anyway,

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not what I'm like. My purpose in life is

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 1>not to accumulate all the shit I can accumulate. My purpose,

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I believe, is to help others, to help themselves, to

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>help other people realize and I mean that in both ways,

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:55.879
<v Speaker 1>realize their potential to optimize. You know, their their brain power,

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>their genetics, their time, their resources, their skills, their happiness,

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you know their relationships, their talent, you know all of

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And yeah, so I just, yeah, I pulled

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the pin and I sold everything except Harpers on the

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Highway and the Big One, and yeah, and it's been

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a I think there's that, you know, especially when you're

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:23.720
<v Speaker 1>like you and me, is I can't speak on your behalf,

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.319
<v Speaker 1>but I think you know, I was a fucking I

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 1>was a very average kid. You were probably more spectacular

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>than me, and that you were a very good athlete. Well,

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I was shit, but you ended up being a kid

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>with an illness that you needed to navigate.

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I lost that identity in my teenage years.

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 1>And we both came out of that and went, well, fuck,

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:43.760
<v Speaker 1>who are we and what am I doing? Yeah? And

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the funny thing was that while and you know, I

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 1>had this brand and this reputation, and I had these skills.

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I could talk underwater, I could be charming, funny, charismatic.

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I could do all of that right, But at the

0:50:55.239 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>same time, there was this underlying insecurity, self doubt, self flothing.

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:04.400
<v Speaker 1>There was all this stuff that people didn't see because

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I was so good at playing the Craig harperole, you know.

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 1>And then then you go, oh, and I think what

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>happens often is we go all right, well, now I've

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:18.400
<v Speaker 1>got five businesses, and now I've got all whatever it is.

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Now I've got twenty four staff or twenty staff or

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 1>wherever you were at the time, or now I'm fucking

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>eight percent body fat, my arm's eighteen inches, or I'm

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>earning two undergrand or I'm earning four under grand or

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I've got whatever it is. But the funny thing is

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you get there and you go, oh, I still feel lonely,

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 1>i still feel disconnected, i still feel unsure, I'm still insecure.

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:48.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm still bullshitting people, and I'm bullshitting myself, and I'm

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:50.600
<v Speaker 1>avoiding something and I don't even know what the fuck

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:54.360
<v Speaker 1>it is. And so, you know, we grow up in

0:51:54.360 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 1>a paradigm, a cognitive, cultural, sociological paradigm. That's is that

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 1>we are taught that success is about what everyone can see.

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>What you have, what you earn, what you own, what

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you drive, what people think you, your brand, your followers,

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 1>your twenty four staff, your dog, your car, whatever, right,

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:21.239
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with that, But that doesn't necessarily equal fulfillment

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:25.839
<v Speaker 1>or contentment or equanimity. Or you know, it's like, oh,

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it's wildly successful, but spiraling out of control. Now, how

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>many people do you know? And I know that are

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:40.840
<v Speaker 1>successful from an outside looking in perspective, but the inside

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>out reality is depression, anxiety, no sleep, overthinking, self doubt,

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>self loathing. You know, the emotional and psychological and even

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 1>spiritual reality depending on your belief system, is fucking chaos.

0:52:57.440 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 1>So my theory is it like where life happens is

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in the external three dimensional world, but where living happens

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>is in the internal, the unseen. But we are so

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:13.439
<v Speaker 1>focused on what everyone can see, we neglect the bit

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that people can't see, you know, that that internal space.

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:20.359
<v Speaker 1>And it's like if you said to me, I've said

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:22.439
<v Speaker 1>this many times, if you said, hahaps, you can talk

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:27.240
<v Speaker 1>tonight to ten thousand people for a dollar for a dollar,

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:30.879
<v Speaker 1>yeah or nothing, or you can walk over the road

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk to one hundred people for ten grand I'm like.

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I say to my team every day, just give me

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to speak to more people. That's literally what

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I say as well.

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, And not just because it's I don't

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:45.720
<v Speaker 1>want anything off yeah.

0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Grow.

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 2>For me, it's just more of a growth thing, like

0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 2>a fun It just feels boring, like if you're just

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:56.360
<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing that you've always done. Going ba

0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 2>to your point, do you know Jonathan Helen then do

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.360
<v Speaker 2>you remember do you ever remember him? He was a bride. Yeah,

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 2>So dear friend of mine. He passed away rest in pace. Yeah,

0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 2>really special guy to me, Like he's literally on my

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 2>desk every day I look at him. There's how much

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 2>of an EVACU made in my life. And one of

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 2>the funny things about him was he and I learned

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 2>this just before he passed away, his most successful year

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.799
<v Speaker 2>that he had in a very successful business property development guy.

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, hundreds of millions of dollars.

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 2>And the craziest thing was was the year that he

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:33.719
<v Speaker 2>was most successful.

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:38.920
<v Speaker 3>He thought he was the biggest failure. Wow, fucking crazy.

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Like he he was like, it's not good enough. I

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.400
<v Speaker 2>should have done more. Why didn't I hit this target?

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 2>And like he had the most biggest successful year he's

0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 2>ever had, and that was his embankment into personal develpment.

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I think he hired a personal coach, he started seeing

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.319
<v Speaker 2>a therapist, and sadly, not long after that, he got

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:58.719
<v Speaker 2>cancer and I think he had it. It was about a

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 2>four and a half year battle. It was a long time,

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 2>but he had this beautiful evolution whilst he was kind

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 2>of getting to that endpoint of life, and it was

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 2>like self actualization and we actually disconnected when he was

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:15.240
<v Speaker 2>going for that driven success, entrepreneurial guy. We just split

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.879
<v Speaker 2>apart because our values didn't the line. I was more

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 2>interested in lifestyle, living a balanced lifestyle and having a

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 2>mission and caring about people, whereas he was, like he

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:28.399
<v Speaker 2>was just ruthless. But then once he got cancer, reached

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 2>back out to me and we connected so deeply. We

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 2>facedtime every week until he passed away, and we talked

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 2>and he messaged me at two am in.

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.200
<v Speaker 3>The morning, Toby, do you believe in God?

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like, dude, it's two AMN on a Tuesday morning,

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just trying to get out and it's my

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 2>breakfast and do some work. I'm like, this is a

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:51.800
<v Speaker 2>deep conversation. Johnny said, yeah, but do you believe in it?

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, of course, you know, but it

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 2>was just it was one of the things I learned

0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 2>from him, was just like perspective. And I think you

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 2>can only get perspective through experience and through challenge. And

0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 2>I think his challenged with cancer woke him up to

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the reality of truth and what really mattered in life.

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 2>And it was beautiful, like to watch the last period

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:16.480
<v Speaker 2>of his life he got to live a really rich life,

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 2>which was cool, but there was this like a beingness

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of came from him and a gentleness and a

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:28.439
<v Speaker 2>different side of him that he that he hid from

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 2>a long for a long time. I was one of

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.080
<v Speaker 2>the lucky ones that got to see that. Apparently he

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:34.880
<v Speaker 2>never showed that to the to the public, but it

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 2>was coming out of him. And then I think the

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 2>biggest thing is it's not about It's not about me.

0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So like I think one of the things that John

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 2>k You went through and I went through it three

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:47.879
<v Speaker 2>years ago, Like I just realized, like, this isn't none

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:51.479
<v Speaker 2>of this is about me anymore. So there's like there's

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 2>four levels of leadership. But the last two is like

0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:56.879
<v Speaker 2>there's like the thought leader. Everyone's a thought leader. Now

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.360
<v Speaker 2>this is from Simon Bown, one of my mentors. Thought leader,

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of the go to guy or go

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 2>to a girl in the industry. Then there's the hero,

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:09.359
<v Speaker 2>so like, you know, come with me and I've got

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:11.120
<v Speaker 2>my cape and I'm going to save you. I'm amazing,

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I'll share all the fat off you. I'm the best

0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 2>coach in the world and done it.

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, we've all been there.

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 2>And then there's the sage, and the Sage is the

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 2>type of leader that says, hey, I've been through some experiences,

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I've had this, I've got some knowledge and some information.

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 2>If you like, I can share it, but what you

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 2>do with it doesn't really matter. And so the sage

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of teaches from a place of we're all equal

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.200
<v Speaker 2>and I've just got got some knowledge to share with you.

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 2>And it's quite a beautiful experience. And I feel like

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 2>we all have to go through those four levels of

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.439
<v Speaker 2>leadership to get to the sage level. And I feel

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 2>like the last three to four years for me, I've

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of completely Really it's the last six years of

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.200
<v Speaker 2>like gone off the hero journey of like this isn't

0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 2>even about me anymore, like the documentary zero about me,

0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 2>my team, my work, not about Tobby Morrison anymore. And

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 2>it's it's nice because it's like we're all in this

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.480
<v Speaker 2>for the same reasons, whereas before there was much more

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 2>self identification of like I'm on my island, you guys

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 2>are on your island. You do you to help me

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:12.520
<v Speaker 2>get what I want and kind of like that ruthlessness

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:16.480
<v Speaker 2>with what Johnny went through in that selfishness, and I

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 2>always say to my team.

0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I think it's.

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Important to have selfish goals, things that you know that

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.480
<v Speaker 2>you're doing for yourself, But just as important, what are

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:26.240
<v Speaker 2>your selfless goals? You know, what are you doing it

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:29.919
<v Speaker 2>for on the bigger grand scheme of things. And yeah,

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 2>it's not about it's not about me anymore. It's kind

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 2>of like God's work. It's that's how it feels.

0:58:35.360 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you just a little anecdote.

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Please please?

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Johnny, Yeah, did you go to his funeral? By

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 1>any chance?

0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I went?

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:44.520
<v Speaker 3>I went to his wake.

0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so past to Phil, Yes, I spoke to

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:50.439
<v Speaker 2>pass the field that night, of course.

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:52.360
<v Speaker 3>And you are the one that connected all of that together.

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So for anyone who's who's pastor feel so Pastor Phil,

0:58:57.440 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a very small world. Sorry, everybody, you can

0:58:59.600 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>turn off.

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 3>This is a very this is actually really a cool story. Yeah.

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:09.800
<v Speaker 1>But Pastor Phil also was clearly a pastor of a church,

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:14.680
<v Speaker 1>but in a previous life was a physiotherapist. And then

0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it ended up just for shits and giggles, kind of

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:22.600
<v Speaker 1>working at my Jim Harper's with his physiotherapy qualification, working

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 1>with people more as a trainer, and so he was

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:29.000
<v Speaker 1>simultaneously a trainer and a past of a church, and

0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 1>he ended up doing Johnny's funeral and yeah, and spend

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 1>john a lot of time with him.

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:36.880
<v Speaker 3>A lot of times.

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 2>So john met him through the gym obviously back in

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the day, like ten years prior, and Phil was a

0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 2>really fit guy. But Johnny wasn't interested in God, he

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 2>wasn't interested in spirituality. He just wanted to make money,

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:52.640
<v Speaker 2>build homes and make money. That's his only goal. His

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:54.600
<v Speaker 2>goal was to become a billionaire and he was close, like,

0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:56.959
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't that far off when he died, actually died

0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:57.400
<v Speaker 2>with a lot.

0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Of money in the bank.

0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 2>And what happened was when Johnny got cancer, he remembered

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I think someone said to him like, well, maybe you know,

1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 2>you should get in touch with God or something like that,

1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and John's like, this is just ridiculous, but remembered Phil,

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the gym guy who was the pastor and feels a

1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 2>cool pastor, like, you know, there's any type of pasty

1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:18.160
<v Speaker 2>when I am, it's kind of Phil. And Johnny reconnected

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:20.960
<v Speaker 2>with Phil, and it was a really wonderful experience for

1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:23.800
<v Speaker 2>john because he'd never had that man in his life

1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:28.439
<v Speaker 2>to to kind of talk about spirituality on a deep level.

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:31.720
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, Phil was with him by side the whole

1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:34.000
<v Speaker 2>way through. And then I was I was so privileged

1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to see Phil at the funeral, and we had a

1:00:35.840 --> 1:00:37.960
<v Speaker 2>really good chat, and we felt like we were on

1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:40.200
<v Speaker 2>the lucky ones, you know, because we were in the

1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:43.280
<v Speaker 2>We were in the room not as business people. And

1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Johnny's brother, basically cousin Jimmy, who you probably remember, I

1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:50.600
<v Speaker 2>used to train at the gym with Johnny. He said

1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to me, you know, he said, you you knew the

1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:55.760
<v Speaker 2>real Johnny, And I said, what do you mean. He goes,

1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:57.760
<v Speaker 2>look around this room, all these guys in suits. He goes,

1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:00.560
<v Speaker 2>they don't know the real Johnny. Hre of his money,

1:01:00.640 --> 1:01:02.439
<v Speaker 2>because of his business, they don't give a shit about

1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:04.840
<v Speaker 2>who he was. But you, you're one of the only

1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:06.920
<v Speaker 2>few people that you really got to know Johnny. And

1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I just assumed that I was. Everyone was the same,

1:01:09.120 --> 1:01:11.960
<v Speaker 2>but he just didn't let many people in. But the

1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:13.680
<v Speaker 2>funny thing was is because I didn't give a shit

1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:15.480
<v Speaker 2>about his money, I didn't give a shit about I

1:01:15.520 --> 1:01:18.480
<v Speaker 2>never treated him any differently than I would to anybody.

1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:18.720
<v Speaker 3>Else in the world.

1:01:18.800 --> 1:01:21.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why we had such a deep

1:01:21.800 --> 1:01:24.800
<v Speaker 2>connection and when he got on the BRW rich list

1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I sent him. Everyone was like, oh Johnny, you know

1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:29.720
<v Speaker 2>you well done, you three hundred million or whatever it was.

1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:32.040
<v Speaker 2>And I just wrote to him as text means are saying,

1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:35.000
<v Speaker 2>congratulations made, but how's your heart question mark?

1:01:35.800 --> 1:01:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:37.880
<v Speaker 2>And you know, like he would just be like what

1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:41.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, and we'd have these massive conversations and I

1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:43.400
<v Speaker 2>think he was just blown away because I just wasn't

1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:45.760
<v Speaker 2>you know. I was way more interested in him as

1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:49.600
<v Speaker 2>a human. And I guess I'm thankful for my parents

1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:51.640
<v Speaker 2>of that, because they just brought me up in a

1:01:51.640 --> 1:01:55.040
<v Speaker 2>world to treat everyone equal. Whether you've got a huge

1:01:55.080 --> 1:01:58.880
<v Speaker 2>amount of wealth or you were homeless, you know, you're

1:01:58.920 --> 1:02:02.560
<v Speaker 2>all the same. So I feel really privileged because I got,

1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:04.920
<v Speaker 2>like I said, you know, there's there's only one person

1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:06.840
<v Speaker 2>on my desk, and it's Johnny Helen n It's because

1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:10.600
<v Speaker 2>of the connection, the level of intimacy he had as

1:02:10.600 --> 1:02:13.680
<v Speaker 2>a friend friendship group, and I touch base with his

1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:16.120
<v Speaker 2>son literally two days ago, Archie Helen, and just to

1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:17.800
<v Speaker 2>check in on him. And I feel like it's my

1:02:17.880 --> 1:02:20.560
<v Speaker 2>duty to make sure that he's okay, even though I

1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:22.480
<v Speaker 2>barely know him. But I checking on him every couple

1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:22.800
<v Speaker 2>of months.

1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:23.240
<v Speaker 3>How you're doing.

1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm always here for you. Just give me a call,

1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:27.200
<v Speaker 2>you know. And he's doing great now as well.

1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's amazing mate. Well that went off at a

1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:32.640
<v Speaker 1>philosophical tangent, but I love it.

1:02:32.760 --> 1:02:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't cry. I was about to tear. Every time

1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I talk about Johnny, I usually start crying.

1:02:36.520 --> 1:02:37.680
<v Speaker 3>So I love it.

1:02:37.800 --> 1:02:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And just for people who are going feel past a

1:02:41.160 --> 1:02:45.240
<v Speaker 1>field trainer physio. Just to give you a picture of Phil.

1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Feel's about five to ten and about five to ten wide,

1:02:50.120 --> 1:02:52.880
<v Speaker 1>a very good looking, very superman.

1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very fit, very like just like huge bicyps.

1:02:57.480 --> 1:03:00.840
<v Speaker 1>And it does not when you think about a pastor

1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of a church, Phil is not what springs to mind.

1:03:03.520 --> 1:03:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like an he looks like a famous Hollywood

1:03:06.000 --> 1:03:11.120
<v Speaker 2>actor but like so down to earth and yeah, it looks.

1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:13.440
<v Speaker 1>More like a Chipendal than a pastor. Let's be honest.

1:03:15.000 --> 1:03:19.440
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely quickly tell people where to find you, follow

1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you and connect with CFS health.

1:03:21.840 --> 1:03:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, CFS Health obviously across all channels. Just type in

1:03:25.800 --> 1:03:30.960
<v Speaker 2>CFS health and on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook if you want

1:03:31.000 --> 1:03:32.080
<v Speaker 2>to view into.

1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:33.520
<v Speaker 3>My personal world. Toby J.

1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Morrison on Instagram and then yes cushealth dot com if

1:03:37.560 --> 1:03:39.800
<v Speaker 2>you're if you or someone you know has chronic fatigue

1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:42.120
<v Speaker 2>syndrome is looking for a professional step by step help

1:03:42.200 --> 1:03:45.160
<v Speaker 2>to you know, get healthy and start leaving again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been great, mate, I really loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks man, it's nice to nice to catch up. And

1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:53.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, you actually look you look great. You look

1:03:53.160 --> 1:03:55.520
<v Speaker 2>younger every time you where's the wrinkles?

1:03:56.320 --> 1:03:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Like? What's going on? Are you sponsored by Boatox? Now?

1:03:59.000 --> 1:03:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>You actually look you look great? Man? Like I think

1:04:02.160 --> 1:04:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I'll got more wrinkles than you.

1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:07.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel all right, you look good.

1:04:07.800 --> 1:04:08.640
<v Speaker 3>What's the secret?

1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:10.520
<v Speaker 1>What do you know how much I weigh?

1:04:10.560 --> 1:04:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Now I was gonna say seventy nine.

1:04:15.240 --> 1:04:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Eighty one, but I'm looking clean. I'm hard as a

1:04:18.000 --> 1:04:18.680
<v Speaker 1>cat's head.

1:04:18.480 --> 1:04:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Bro, So what's the secret? Are you on minimal cows or.

1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I've just been taking those tablets that you send me

1:04:25.680 --> 1:04:27.840
<v Speaker 1>in the mail? I mean, what's in them? But fucking

1:04:27.920 --> 1:04:30.280
<v Speaker 1>hell they're great. Hey, we'll say goodbye affair, but from

1:04:30.320 --> 1:04:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the moment, thanks buddy, talk again.

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<v Speaker 3>My pleasure