Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
Speaker 2: This is Sharry Good Evening.
Speaker 3: Another big show tonight. The shock decision to hold off
Speaker 3: a rate cut, Why the RBA governor insists it's not
Speaker 3: a betrayal of homeowners. Devastating stories emerged from the flooding
Speaker 3: disaster in Texas. Will cross live to a reporter on
Speaker 3: the ground later this hour, Plus the mushroom murderer, Aaron
Speaker 3: Patterson's a radic past revealed and the photographs of her
Speaker 3: that the ABC was reluctant to publish. Israel nominates Donald
Speaker 3: Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. I'll ask Michaylia Cash
Speaker 3: if she thinks Trump is a deserving nominee. Shortly and
Speaker 3: three are charged over the storming of a Melbourne restaurant.
Speaker 3: The Israeli Ambassador Emir Maimond would join me tonight for
Speaker 3: an exclusive interview. That's all coming up, but first tonight.
Speaker 3: Anthony Albinezi today confirmed he'll visit China this Saturday. This
Speaker 3: is truly astonishing that he's about to meet Chinese President
Speaker 3: she for the fourth time, while he still hasn't managed
Speaker 3: to secure a single meeting with the US president.
Speaker 2: The pair, in fact have never met.
Speaker 3: Despite Trump winning the election on November fourth, eight months ago.
Speaker 3: Eight months here was ALBINIZI please, there's punch to announce
Speaker 3: he's visiting China on Saturday.
Speaker 4: I look forward to going to Shanghai, Beijing and Qingdu,
Speaker 4: which I will visit from Saturday. China is an important
Speaker 4: trading partner for Australia. Twenty five percent of our exports
Speaker 4: go to China.
Speaker 2: This is deeply worrying.
Speaker 3: Let's not forget China's aggressive treatment of Australia over the
Speaker 3: past decade. It's taken foreign interference and espionage to new levels.
Speaker 3: It's repeatedly try to interfere in our political system, our democracy,
Speaker 3: with covert influence operations launched to infiltrate our parliament. It's
Speaker 3: something ASIO Director General Mike Burgess has spoken about at length.
Speaker 3: There've been aggressive actions as well towards our military. This
Speaker 3: includes Australian Navy divers sustaining minor injuries after a sonar
Speaker 3: attack from a Chinese warship. The incident took place while
Speaker 3: Albanzi was at Apec, but the Prime Minister didn't bother
Speaker 3: to raise it with she, as you can see in
Speaker 3: this footage. Instead, there was a warm greeting the government
Speaker 3: didn't even make the incident public at all until after
Speaker 3: that meeting.
Speaker 5: He had an opportunity last week at APEC to raise
Speaker 5: this very significant incident with Jijingping, and it turns out, well,
Speaker 5: it appears that he did not, And so now we
Speaker 5: have the Chinese government deflicting and indeed you could say
Speaker 5: gas lighting us.
Speaker 3: In another incident, China also dropped flares dangerously close to
Speaker 3: an Australian patrol flight. And then, of course there was
Speaker 3: more recently China's live fire military exercises off the Tasman Sea.
Speaker 3: Now at its worst this could have downed an Australian flight.
Speaker 3: No notice was given, despite Albanesi initially defending the communist
Speaker 3: state by claiming China had provided advance warning.
Speaker 2: Well, it had it, as it turned out, and it was.
Speaker 3: Left to a virgin pilot to tell authorities what was
Speaker 3: going on. Then there was the Chinese dual purpose research
Speaker 3: vessel circumnavigating our southern coast at the start of the
Speaker 3: election campaign, and going back further, China slapped coercive trade
Speaker 3: tariffs on Australia in response for the very sensible demand,
Speaker 3: obvious demand that there should be an independent inquiry into
Speaker 3: the origin of the pandemic, an inquiry that never happened. Now,
Speaker 3: Albanezi can barely bring himself to criticize Beijing, yet he's
Speaker 3: got no qualm speaking in a demeaning fashion about both
Speaker 3: the United States and our other allies like Israel. Foreign
Speaker 3: editor The Australian Greg Sheridan makes this point. He says,
Speaker 3: it's worth noting that as the PM prepares for his
Speaker 3: fourth meeting with She but apparently won't go to Washington
Speaker 3: to meet Donald Trump, he's now making strategic speeches more
Speaker 3: welcome in Beijing than in Washington, and the Prime Minister
Speaker 3: seems to find every excuse for China's intimidation of our country.
Speaker 2: Yet, make no mistake.
Speaker 3: The threat China posers is the very reason we need
Speaker 3: a strong military. It's the very reason we need a
Speaker 3: strong relationship with the United States. We don't have the
Speaker 3: defense capability to defend ourselves. We'd have to rely on
Speaker 3: the goodwill of the President of the day and our
Speaker 3: long standing alliance with the United States, an alliance that
Speaker 3: is at its rockiest moment in fifty years. Ever since
Speaker 3: the Battle of the Coral Sea, Australia and America have
Speaker 3: stood side by side, but now Albanezi risks it all
Speaker 3: as he coses up to Beijing and refuses to cooperate
Speaker 3: with the United States on defense spending. I want to
Speaker 3: turn now to the devastating flash flooding in Texas that's
Speaker 3: taken away so many beautiful young lives. In the early
Speaker 3: hours of Friday morning, a month's worth of rain poured
Speaker 3: down on Texas hill country. The Guadalupa River rose twenty
Speaker 3: meters in a matter of minutes. It was swift and
Speaker 3: it was merciless. A Christian girls camp, camp Mysstic, was
Speaker 3: the worst hit. This haunting photograph shows thirteen girls and
Speaker 3: two counselors who were staying in a cabin near the river.
Speaker 3: You can see their beautiful smiles as they began their
Speaker 3: summer camp. But five days after that photograph was taken,
Speaker 3: all of those girls, including the two counselors, were swept away.
Speaker 3: Ten of their bodies have been recovered and three are
Speaker 3: still missing.
Speaker 6: In the morning, they gathered all the counselors who were
Speaker 6: at Cypress Lake and they told us that two of
Speaker 6: sorry two of the cabins with the seven year old
Speaker 6: girls wiped away, and that all these girls were missing.
Speaker 3: The aftermath is now a devastating scene of colorful backpacks, pink.
Speaker 2: Toys, and right clothes.
Speaker 3: Parents grappling with the unbearable reality that their little.
Speaker 2: Girls will never return home.
Speaker 3: Children who survived the flood sang as they were sadly evacuated.
Speaker 3: Amid those devastating scenes of wreckage, sprayse.
Speaker 7: God, I want my world to know the Lord over
Speaker 7: has come to me.
Speaker 6: I want to pass the scion.
Speaker 3: In total, one hundred people have been confirmed dead in
Speaker 3: the flash flooding, but this is likely to still rise,
Speaker 3: with dozens unaccounted for. Divers, helicopters, and even drones are
Speaker 3: being used in the desperate search for survivors. One forty
Speaker 3: five year old dad has told of trying to kayak
Speaker 3: to reach his daughters and his parents, who were staying
Speaker 3: in a different cabin closer to the river, but he
Speaker 3: said his kayak was knocked against a post.
Speaker 2: He said if he.
Speaker 3: Went any further it would have been a death sentence.
Speaker 3: His daughters and father were killed, and his mother's body
Speaker 3: is still missing. One family was camping when the rains
Speaker 3: grew heavy. A mother of four, Amanda, tells how her
Speaker 3: husband was monitoring the river, and he made, in hindsight,
Speaker 3: the very lucky decision to evacuate in the middle of
Speaker 3: the night, and.
Speaker 8: Once the water kind of started coming over the bank,
Speaker 8: is when he came in and said, we need to
Speaker 8: go now.
Speaker 2: And it was just.
Speaker 8: The whole family just immediately went into let's just get
Speaker 8: out of here. One of my sons grabbed all the.
Speaker 2: Dogs from higher ground.
Speaker 3: The family heard the devastation and chaos, the screams as
Speaker 3: the river rushed in.
Speaker 8: The sound of the campers and cabins just crushing against
Speaker 8: each other. That was the first of it, and that's
Speaker 8: what caught our attention. So I immediately went to our staff,
Speaker 8: went through all our belongings, found PFDs life jackets for
Speaker 8: all the children and said, you know, put this on.
Speaker 2: And now.
Speaker 3: The survivor told of how he and his wife went
Speaker 3: with the current until they clung onto a tree and
Speaker 3: waited for help.
Speaker 9: Things were getting dice here by the moment. We couldn't
Speaker 9: tell if the water is going to continue to rise,
Speaker 9: so I said, we need to get out of the house.
Speaker 9: So I grabbed my wife and we literally jumped in
Speaker 9: the water, and it swept us down to about two
Speaker 9: hundred feet down that way, and there was a great
Speaker 9: murle tree that we grabbed hold of and we waited
Speaker 9: for rescue.
Speaker 3: The question is how could this happen in America, of
Speaker 3: all places with supposedly first world emergency response systems. There
Speaker 3: was one warning on Thursday at one eighteen pm that
Speaker 3: heavy rainfall could cause flash flooding across counties, but the
Speaker 3: forecasters only predicted three to seven inches of rain. Another
Speaker 3: warning at six' ten pm said flash flooding was likely
Speaker 3: Across Central texas, overnight but the most urgent awnings warnings
Speaker 3: came when everyone was, asleep from one am. Onwards it
Speaker 3: was a warning at three am of catastrophic potential loss
Speaker 3: of life and a flash flood emergency for the. Region
Speaker 3: that was the most, Crucial but three, am of, course
Speaker 3: was too, little too. Late there were no serious advanced
Speaker 3: warnings or orders to evacuate from, authorities and even at
Speaker 3: one am there were no external warning sirens that rang.
Speaker 3: Out already at that, time The Guadalupa river had reached
Speaker 3: a flooding stage Near Camp. Mystic the worst impact was
Speaker 3: between four am, am when survivors described a raging torrent
Speaker 3: coming in and it's clear to see in the pictures
Speaker 3: that utter. Devastation caverns and other buildings completely, destroyed trees
Speaker 3: and cars floated, downstream debris. Everywhere one survivor described how
Speaker 3: cars were floating past with people inside yelling for, help
Speaker 3: help that would never. Come one survivor said it was pitch,
Speaker 3: black so all you see was the lights floating and
Speaker 3: people screaming and banging against the window and. Honking but
Speaker 3: there were other young lives. Saved about seven miles From Camp,
Speaker 3: mystic there was an employee at The presbyterian Mo Ranch
Speaker 3: assembly who noticed the rising water levels and managed to
Speaker 3: evacuate seventy children and their chaperones between two thirty am
Speaker 3: and four. Am she managed to move them to higher
Speaker 3: ground and saved all of their. Lives for the families
Speaker 3: of over one hundred, people many children weren't so. Lucky
Speaker 3: Evacuation systems and warning sirens that should have been in,
Speaker 3: place given the area is prone to flash, flooding just weren't.
Speaker 3: There the last major flooding of The guadaloupa was in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty seven and it killed.
Speaker 2: Ten teenagers who were attending a church.
Speaker 3: Camp so this has happened, before and there was a
Speaker 3: similar flood that destroyed cottages in nineteen thirty. Two there,
Speaker 3: will of, course now no, doubt be inquiries and investigations
Speaker 3: and accountability and answers are. Needed but this won't bring
Speaker 3: any relief to the heartbroken parents who sent, happy, smiling
Speaker 3: healthy children off to summer, camp only to have now
Speaker 3: lost them. Forever they're now facing the cruel and unth
Speaker 3: thinkable reality of their world's shattered by the pain of
Speaker 3: losing their precious. Children And i'll be crossing live To
Speaker 3: Central texas for more on the devastating floods later this,
Speaker 3: hour but first let's get into the day's top. Stories
Speaker 3: there's a lot going on, today and joining me tonight
Speaker 3: is Former speaker of The House Bronwan bishop and A
Speaker 3: Dony media Founder.
Speaker 2: Lisa, gottaitt and good to see you both.
Speaker 3: Now in a shock, move THE rba has kept interest
Speaker 3: rates on hold at three point eighty five percent, today
Speaker 3: which has denied mortgage relief for millions Of. Australians and
Speaker 3: here was THE Rba Governor Michelle, bullock defending this decision this.
Speaker 10: Afternoon decision today was about was about timing rather than.
Speaker 10: Direction AND i Think i've made this point in the,
Speaker 10: past but our full cast guidess and, yes they get
Speaker 10: more uncertain the further we go, out but at least
Speaker 10: in the near, term what we're looking for is confirmation
Speaker 10: that we are basically on our full cast.
Speaker 3: Path, now the decision to hold was not. Unanimous some
Speaker 3: of the board members wanted a, cut But Michelle bullock
Speaker 3: argues it would have been a betrayal.
Speaker 2: If she'd let inflation get out of.
Speaker 3: Hand So, brunman what we're looking at here is families
Speaker 3: who are continue who continue to grapple with the cost
Speaker 3: of living. Crisis THE rba says inflation isn't yet under.
Speaker 3: Control do you think they made the right decision to hold?
Speaker 11: Today, WELL i think there's another point where you have
Speaker 11: to discuss the fact that for the first time we've
Speaker 11: seen as a split in the board making the, decision
Speaker 11: AND i think that weakens confidence in The Reserve bank
Speaker 11: because it shows it's not a. Certainty it makes it less.
Speaker 11: Certain could be, right could be wrong is how people
Speaker 11: will see. It and angry because everybody was telling them
Speaker 11: there's going to be a, cut and people with mortgages
Speaker 11: and people who are renting are affected by that as.
Speaker 11: Well just didn't. Happen SO i think there's a worry
Speaker 11: the way the new board is, constructed and this discussion
Speaker 11: and that very fierce press conference, afterwards everybody was, saying,
Speaker 11: well how did you? Vote how did The secretary of
Speaker 11: The treasury? Vote who was wanting to bring them? Down
Speaker 11: SO i think they've created a big problem for. Themselves
Speaker 11: and then of course you had the treasurers, say, oh,
Speaker 11: WELL i don't comment on what they, do they're. Independent
Speaker 11: then of course he sends out The Australia institute to
Speaker 11: speak for The Labor party and attack the judgment of
Speaker 11: the of the. Decision SO i think it was a
Speaker 11: very unsatisfactory. DAY i think a lot of people will
Speaker 11: continue to. HURT i think waiting for the quarter figures
Speaker 11: seems to be the basis of the decision could be
Speaker 11: seen to be super. Cautious but my main concern is
Speaker 11: that now When Michelle, bullock despite the FACT i think
Speaker 11: she's very, GOOD i think they are now less regarded
Speaker 11: as giving good judgment because there's obviously.
Speaker 3: Splits, yeah, indeed when it's not, unanimous you, know you wonder.
Speaker 2: Like viage was. Right.
Speaker 3: Now the issue as, well, is of course the political
Speaker 3: reaction to this had there been a rate, cut where
Speaker 3: Likely lisa would have seen The Albert easy government out
Speaker 3: claiming credit for, it no.
Speaker 2: Doubt but yet when.
Speaker 3: There's, Not oh it's because of global, uncertainty which, yes
Speaker 3: of course does play a, factor but this is how
Speaker 3: it will play.
Speaker 12: Out, yeah so you're exactly. Right and to pick up
Speaker 12: further On broman's, point you're talking about the changes with THE.
Speaker 12: Rba this was all meant to be about, transparency AND
Speaker 12: i think you're, Right. BRODWIN i think you're going to
Speaker 12: have Average australians now who are sitting home trying to
Speaker 12: do their household budgets looking at those, figures and there'll
Speaker 12: be a witch hunt, now or at least the chase
Speaker 12: on to try to understand exactly who was for it
Speaker 12: and who was against it and what were those driving factors.
Speaker 12: There and you're, right it will put doubt and questions
Speaker 12: around the confidence that we have in THE rba moving,
Speaker 12: forward because, tonight as we sit, here there are families
Speaker 12: at home now working out how can we afford that
Speaker 12: next carton of, eggs how can we afford that next
Speaker 12: life of? Bread and to Watch Jim charmers today very
Speaker 12: much if he had announced AN rba interest rate cut.
Speaker 12: Today he would have been out there. Gloating he would
Speaker 12: have been claiming it as a victory for the labor.
Speaker 12: Government this is very, MUCH i think a judgment call
Speaker 12: on how labor is running this.
Speaker 2: Economy, indeed, well.
Speaker 3: Let's return to the guilty verdict of mushroom Murderer Aaron.
Speaker 2: Patterson and she spent.
Speaker 3: Her first four day in jail, today this after she
Speaker 3: was found guilty of three counts of. Murder, now since the,
Speaker 3: verdict parts of her checkered past have been. Revealed The
Speaker 3: Australian today reporting That Aaron patterson abruptly left her job
Speaker 3: as an air traffic controller amid concerns about her behavior
Speaker 3: and treatment of. Colleagues and this is according to a
Speaker 3: former staff Member Roman what else can? You what else
Speaker 3: have we now learned About Aaron? Patterson now that the
Speaker 3: media are free to publish stories about her, past they
Speaker 3: wouldn't be in contempt of.
Speaker 2: Court, Now, well.
Speaker 11: The trouble with this whole case is it's become an
Speaker 11: international phenomenon and there are going to be people wanting
Speaker 11: to make money out of. It they are going to
Speaker 11: be offers being made to the former. Husband they are
Speaker 11: going to be offers made to the survivor of the attempted,
Speaker 11: murder and we're going to hear all sorts of people
Speaker 11: coming forward and, saying, WELL i knew, her AND i
Speaker 11: think she was a, enoughcase OR i knew this she
Speaker 11: was came in with wearing the same clothes all the.
Speaker 2: TIME i thought that was a very curious.
Speaker 11: Comment SO i don't think we've seen the end of
Speaker 11: this for a long long. Time but when you heard
Speaker 11: the doctor come out and make, COMMENTS i thought that
Speaker 11: was quite. Dramatic BUT i think there's going to be,
Speaker 11: many many people coming out making more and more comments
Speaker 11: because it is such a bizarre.
Speaker 2: Case it really.
Speaker 11: Is it is quite beyond the sheer thinking about going
Speaker 11: to pick those motions toadstools is what they, are and
Speaker 11: to put them into a Berth, wellington which was a
Speaker 11: very Popular edish in the. Eighties IF i recall and
Speaker 11: set out to actually give them a painful, death it's.
Speaker 2: Pretty, horrendous it really. Is it really, is and.
Speaker 11: That's WHY i think there are going to be lots
Speaker 11: and lots of people sought to give more and more
Speaker 11: opinions to try and see what it is that brought
Speaker 11: about this serial, killer.
Speaker 3: AND i just feel sorry for her children as. Well
Speaker 3: they'd be doing with so.
Speaker 2: Much for the other. Children but what about.
Speaker 3: This you would have seen the photographs Of Aaron patterson
Speaker 3: that were taking yesterday on the front page of the papers. Today,
Speaker 3: well THE, abc it turns, out considered not publishing these
Speaker 3: unflattering images of the convicted mushroom killer because THE abc
Speaker 3: was concerned about her privacy and.
Speaker 2: Distress this is.
Speaker 3: According to internal staff emails obtained By Steve jackson At The.
Speaker 3: Australian so THE abc is worried about the privacy of
Speaker 3: a convicted triple. Murderer NOW i understound these photographs cuss
Speaker 3: around ten thousand dollars and many media outlets did pay
Speaker 3: that amount of. Money we didn't At, Sky but it
Speaker 3: wasn't because of the privacy of a. KILLER i mean
Speaker 3: that was the ABC's, concern which is utterly, Bizarre.
Speaker 12: Lisa THE abc has suddenly grown a conscience about what
Speaker 12: it wants to show and what it doesn't and to
Speaker 12: describe them as, unflattering that's not enough to say in
Speaker 12: an editorial, decision we are not going to run these.
Speaker 12: Photos as you, say she's now a convicted, murderer serial
Speaker 12: killer if you like what you used the fact that
Speaker 12: there was conversations inside THE abc to, say we've used
Speaker 12: taxpayer funded money buy these, images but now we are
Speaker 12: not sure as to whether we can whether it was
Speaker 12: stand the public interest argument or. NOT i just think
Speaker 12: that they're sitting on a moral high horse that they
Speaker 12: don't normally sit on at all if you look at
Speaker 12: any of the graphic images that they quite happily put
Speaker 12: out there on many other. Stories on this one they
Speaker 12: suddenly tried to, say, well we're going to be holier
Speaker 12: than now and not run. THEM i don't think that's
Speaker 12: the right thing to. DO i understand the conversation needs
Speaker 12: to be, had And, sharry you would have been in
Speaker 12: newsrooms where these conversations have. Had but she's a convicted.
Speaker 12: Murderer the public has a right to see, IT i think.
Speaker 3: EXACTLY i mean worried about protecting the privacy of a
Speaker 3: triple murderer WHEN i mean when THE abc has, acted
Speaker 3: in my, view in such a morally corrupt fashion when
Speaker 3: it comes TO i, mean they used to cover the
Speaker 3: anti samitism crisis for a very long.
Speaker 2: Time now they.
Speaker 11: Are BUT i Mentioned Heston, russell what they did to him,
Speaker 11: exactly absolutely lied about him and had to pay. Damages
Speaker 11: and you're quite right the coverage of the anti Semitism, yes, indeed,
Speaker 11: yes indeed you're quite.
Speaker 3: Right before well added the gunshots that absolutely, Yes so
Speaker 3: if you but the point you made about the way
Speaker 3: they covered the Anti semitism, issue it's just been.
Speaker 11: Appalling so it just shows what a mess they're.
Speaker 2: IN i, mean if.
Speaker 3: Really watching THE, abc you would be shocked to hear
Speaker 3: That trump might get A nobel peace.
Speaker 2: Price but it's happening well.
Speaker 11: Quite, FRANKLY i think that was a brillant suggestion of
Speaker 11: The Israeli Prime minister to Nominate. Trump when you look
Speaker 11: at the work that he did with The Abraham, accords
Speaker 11: when you look at the sheikhs who are now saying
Speaker 11: that they would like to be part of The Abraham,
Speaker 11: accord they're looking for. PEACE i think he deserves it
Speaker 11: when you think That obama got it for turning.
Speaker 2: Up, ye, exactly just for Being.
Speaker 3: Obama, yeah, Indeed And i'm about to speak To Mikayla
Speaker 3: cash about this very Tubbing.
Speaker 2: Brahman Bishop Lisa, goddard great to see, You thank you
Speaker 2: both so. Much we'll see you next.
Speaker 3: Week all, right let's return To albaneze's announcement today that
Speaker 3: he's jetting off To china this weekend to meet With President,
Speaker 3: shijingping where he'll no doubt be given the royal. Treatment
Speaker 3: AS i said, earlier this will be his fourth trip
Speaker 3: To china since Becoming Prime minister and Joining minow's Shadow
Speaker 3: Foreign Affairs, Minister Mikaylia.
Speaker 2: Cash great to see, You.
Speaker 3: Michaalea we also saw that subtle swipe From alberanizi in
Speaker 3: Is John curtin's speech about shying away from The United.
Speaker 3: States are you concerned That alberanizi is now jeopardizing our
Speaker 3: relationship with our most important, ally THE?
Speaker 13: Us, YES i am Shari and in particular when you
Speaker 13: have noted commentators Like Greg sheridan now posing the, question
Speaker 13: Is Anthony alberzi, intentionally for reasons only known to, himself
Speaker 13: seeking to undermine and diminish our relationship.
Speaker 2: With The United.
Speaker 13: States australians should be. Worried you, know in twenty twenty
Speaker 13: five you have, rising you know, conflict you have global
Speaker 13: unrestd we should be as a country seeing our prime
Speaker 13: stand up and say reaffirm that we stand with the
Speaker 13: country The United, states who has long been a key
Speaker 13: foundation of our, security who has been and continues to
Speaker 13: be the leader of the free. World we should be
Speaker 13: backing in The Australia United States, alliance and Yet Anthony,
Speaker 13: albnizi he seems to have put it on the back.
Speaker 13: Burner and that IS i. WORRY i, mean.
Speaker 2: That's speech that was just.
Speaker 13: Bizarre the speech for the curtain narration on the. WEEKEND
Speaker 13: i mean Again Greeg SHERIDAN i saw described it as
Speaker 13: a look away From america's.
Speaker 2: SPEECH i mean that'd have the heads In.
Speaker 13: Washington doesn't that be scratching them and going what is
Speaker 13: going on With. Australia so, YES i am, concerned but
Speaker 13: in particular in twenty twenty, five when we should be
Speaker 13: reaffirming our relationship and The AUSTRALIA Us, alliance not putting
Speaker 13: it on the back burner like Mister albernizi appears to have.
Speaker 2: DONE i, agree very.
Speaker 3: Worrying AS i just, Mentioned Donald trump met With Israeli
Speaker 3: Prime Minister benjaminette And yahoo today And nettaya who suggested
Speaker 3: that he said he had Nominated trump for The Nobel Peace.
Speaker 2: Prize have a.
Speaker 7: LOOK i want to present to you as.
Speaker 14: President the LETTER i sent to The Normal Prize, committee
Speaker 14: it's noment in you for The Peace, prize which is well.
Speaker 3: Deserved this is now the second country to have Nominated.
Speaker 3: Trump do you think he is deserving of The Nobel Peace.
Speaker 13: Prize, well let's look at his actions under both his
Speaker 13: former administration and the administration. TODAY i, Mean, BROMWIN i
Speaker 13: listened THERE i just. MENTIONED i mean it was the
Speaker 13: Former trump administration that successfully negotiated The Abraham. Accords now
Speaker 13: that IS i see series of agreements Between israel and
Speaker 13: Participating arab states that sought to normalize relationships that were
Speaker 13: seen as a very positive step towards peace and. Security
Speaker 13: but on top of, that look at his recent actions
Speaker 13: to ensure That iran does not have nuclear. CAPABILITY i,
Speaker 13: mean he made a decision that his military would launch
Speaker 13: a series of precision strikes On iran's nuclear. Facilities he
Speaker 13: is seeking to protect the world from a nuclear Armed.
Speaker 13: Iran that is a good, Thing, shari and he should
Speaker 13: be commended for. It but Also, SHARI i would, say
Speaker 13: Since october, seventh twenty twenty, Three President trump and his,
Speaker 13: administration they have been integral in the negotiations to get the,
Speaker 13: hostages the hostages that have been kidnapped by the militant
Speaker 13: terrorist organization HUM, us who have still not been released.
Speaker 13: Today he has been integral in seeking to have them
Speaker 13: returned back To. Israel so IF i look at the
Speaker 13: actions Of President trump and his, administration those actions are
Speaker 13: to be commended because they are taken to ensure steps
Speaker 13: towards peace in The Middle, east which we all. Want
Speaker 13: but more than, that in relation To, iran that is
Speaker 13: of benefit.
Speaker 2: To the entire global.
Speaker 3: Community, absolutely that's something the government refuses to. Acknowledge And
Speaker 3: i'm going to be speaking With israel's ambassador To australia.
Speaker 3: Shortly just want to refer to the horrific antisemitism we
Speaker 3: saw In melbourne on the weekend and specifically The abanese
Speaker 3: government's response to, it because The Prime minister today rejected
Speaker 3: calls to implement the fifteen point plan that was developed
Speaker 3: through Our Sky News Anti semity.
Speaker 4: Summit here he was Any semitism is a, scourge has
Speaker 4: no place In. Australia let's be. Clear what people want
Speaker 4: as not a. Meeting they want. Action they want action
Speaker 4: is what they.
Speaker 3: Want yet he won't implement the recommendations that The Executive
Speaker 3: council Of Australian jury put forward developed through our. Summit
Speaker 3: do you agree that he does need to implement those? Recommendations,
Speaker 3: absolutely and under Both Peter dutton and Now Susan, lee
Speaker 3: The coalition has committed to them to implement them in.
Speaker 3: Full i'm at now at a, LOSS i say The
Speaker 3: Prime minister in.
Speaker 13: The, footage it's just. Platitude he could actually say what
Speaker 13: he likes now and it just wouldn't matter because this
Speaker 13: is a man who opens his, mouth words come, out
Speaker 13: but then his actions betray him every single. Time i've
Speaker 13: had a look at. Them i've had a look at.
Speaker 13: Them I've i've got one of them. HERE i want
Speaker 13: to read it out to, you see your, listeners me
Speaker 13: and he's saying no To, yeah preachers and larities spreading.
Speaker 13: Hate religious and other charitable institutions should have their charity
Speaker 13: status and all funding revoked if they promote, racism including Anti,
Speaker 13: semitism or display a terrorist. Symbol, WELL i don't know
Speaker 13: on what planet The Prime minister lives if he does
Speaker 13: not think that that is a, sensible practical and reasonable.
Speaker 13: Recommendation so shame on The Prime. Minister he has been
Speaker 13: presented with a constructive list of recommendations by the people
Speaker 13: who have been affected most egregiously by Anti semitism in this, country.
Speaker 2: And he's not going to implement.
Speaker 13: Them so there you, go every time he opens his,
Speaker 13: mouth platitudes and nothing.
Speaker 2: More, yeah and you're exactly.
Speaker 3: Right every one of those fifteen recommendations are, sensible meaningful and.
Speaker 2: DIRECTED i believe.
Speaker 3: They would have a angible difference on reducing, wicked not,
Speaker 3: eliminating but at least reducing anti seven McKenny, Exactly Michaylae,
Speaker 3: cash thank you very much for coming on the. Program
Speaker 3: now still to, come devastating flooding in Central, texas claiming
Speaker 3: the lives of more than one hundred. People we'll get
Speaker 3: the latest FROM cnn Reporter Lee, woldman plus The Prime
Speaker 3: minister dismisses suggestions to tackle the Anti semitism. Problem as
Speaker 3: we've just been, Discussing israel's ambassador To, Australia Emir, maimon.
Speaker 2: Would join me to discuss that's. Next welcome. Back.
Speaker 3: Well, today three people were charged with, assault righteous behavior
Speaker 3: and criminal damage after a group of protesters stormed An
Speaker 3: israeli owned restaurant In, MELBOURNE cbd On friday night and
Speaker 3: joining me now Is israel's ambassador To, Australia Emir.
Speaker 2: Maymon, emir thank you very much for your.
Speaker 3: Time, now there've been no arrests made over The adas
Speaker 3: synagogue fire bombing From december last, year so it was
Speaker 3: really good news today that police have acted so swiftly
Speaker 3: over now two incidents From friday night with a series of.
Speaker 2: Arrests, well good.
Speaker 15: Evening, shari and thank you once again for having me
Speaker 15: in your. Program, yes this is definitely a very positive
Speaker 15: step in the right. Direction the arrest a few hours
Speaker 15: after the arsen attack attempt was, immediate and also today
Speaker 15: announcement of The Victoria police is definitely a positive step.
Speaker 15: Forward this is exactly what everyone was looking for for real,
Speaker 15: action And i'm really satisfied that in the end of
Speaker 15: the investigation it led to the arrest of a number of,
Speaker 15: people AND i do hope that in the future we'll
Speaker 15: see some more arrest of people that were involved in
Speaker 15: Anti semitic.
Speaker 2: Attacks, YEAH i hope so as.
Speaker 3: Well, amir you personally visited The East Melbourne synagogue.
Speaker 2: Today, look when you first.
Speaker 3: Began you're posting In, australia could you ever have imagined
Speaker 3: you'd be visiting synagogues that have been, firebombed that we'd
Speaker 3: be dealing with this crisis of antisemitism In.
Speaker 2: Australia, well to.
Speaker 15: Be, honest WHEN i was appointed by The minispipy Of Fauna,
Speaker 15: FIRST i was told by some of my very capable
Speaker 15: predecessors that there is no better place Than australia to
Speaker 15: spend the last few years before. Retirement, unfortunately the last three,
Speaker 15: years my last three years were all but the preparation
Speaker 15: for my future. Retirement and you're absolutely. RIGHT i didn't
Speaker 15: expect that during my TENURE i would be visiting so many.
Speaker 15: Synagogues it's not just The adasis will not just the
Speaker 15: synagogue In. MELBOURNE i also visited the synagogue In newtown
Speaker 15: and also In South. Sydney and by the, way WHEN
Speaker 15: i visited the synagogue In, NEWTOWN i discovered the synagogue
Speaker 15: was attack in nineteen ninety three and arsen. Attack people
Speaker 15: tend to forget it that the recent arsen attack are
Speaker 15: not the first one here In. Australia and not only,
Speaker 15: that IF i can share something with, You On december,
Speaker 15: sixth the day a few hours after The Adas israel
Speaker 15: synagogue was. Attacked we held a ceremony here in The
Speaker 15: embassy round to commemorate the historic protest Of William. Cooper
Speaker 15: William cooper protested and it is in accordance to The
Speaker 15: advashem the single private prose that is. Recorded he protested
Speaker 15: in front of The German Consulated, melbourne and it was
Speaker 15: all About. Crystal The night of The Broken glasses In november,
Speaker 15: ninth nineteen thirty, eight the night Where jewish books were
Speaker 15: burned and The jewish shops windows were, broken And jewish
Speaker 15: synagogues were also. Burnt and for me to visit the
Speaker 15: synagogue Dass Was synagogue the following early the following, week
Speaker 15: it was really so, sad so chilling to visit these
Speaker 15: two holes that were burnt to, ashes to smell the
Speaker 15: smoke and the. Fire it took me back to The Crystal.
Speaker 15: North it took me back To october the. Seventh but
Speaker 15: you know, what in each one of these synagogues THAT i,
Speaker 15: VISITED i met with a Wonderful australians Of jewish origin
Speaker 15: that are so determined not to let anything to interfere
Speaker 15: with their, culture with their. Life they you, KNOW i
Speaker 15: went there to strengthen, them to support, them AND i
Speaker 15: felt that they supported me more THAN i supported, them
Speaker 15: and their message was very. Clear The jewish music will
Speaker 15: never be. Stopped nobody will stop The jewish. Music and
Speaker 15: that's you, know a real, Pride no it.
Speaker 2: Is, indeed it's a beautiful.
Speaker 3: Sentiment and what about you, Personally, emya how have you
Speaker 3: been treated as The israeli ambassador during your time In.
Speaker 2: Australia, well it's not our two period of.
Speaker 15: Time october the sevenths is definitely a day that changed
Speaker 15: the life of Many, israelis many members of The australian
Speaker 15: community Of jewish, origin and changed the life of all
Speaker 15: those who care and Love. ISRAEL i woke up After
Speaker 15: october the seventh AND i was In israel And october
Speaker 15: the seventh to find out That i'm not always welcome
Speaker 15: by all political, circles and to wake up and find
Speaker 15: out that some politicians are calling the government to, deport
Speaker 15: to expel me From. Canberra it's not something very. Nice
Speaker 15: on the other, HAND i should emphasize THAT i still
Speaker 15: enjoy a very good relation and communication with the senior
Speaker 15: leadership and with The Prime minister and The Foreign minister
Speaker 15: and many other senior. Ministers But, unfortunately not all are
Speaker 15: are willing to meet with, me and it is a
Speaker 15: bit upsetting because we live In australia is a democracy
Speaker 15: AND i was always in the view that those who
Speaker 15: live in democracy should not have any problems meeting the
Speaker 15: representative of other democratic, countries despite and regardless the differences
Speaker 15: that we may.
Speaker 2: Have, yeah but AS i.
Speaker 15: Said the glass is not fully. Empty the glass is
Speaker 15: also half. Full And i'm thankful for the very good
Speaker 15: and for the quality of the communication THAT i have
Speaker 15: with the senior.
Speaker 3: Leadership, Well i'm glad you are optimistic and you have that,
Speaker 3: outlook and we are always privileged and honored to have
Speaker 3: you on the. Program so you know you don't have
Speaker 3: that reaction from, here even though you might have it
Speaker 3: from parts of The Labor.
Speaker 2: Party amir May, one thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 3: Tonight all, right still to come are us style primaries
Speaker 3: the answer to The Liberal party Wose i'll speak With
Speaker 3: Andrew caswell And Camra milner a bit. Later PLUS cnn
Speaker 3: Reportedly woldman brings us the very latest on the tragedy In.
Speaker 2: Texas that's after this quick. Break welcome.
Speaker 3: Back in returning now to the devastating floods In, texas
Speaker 3: which has claimed the lives of more than one hundred,
Speaker 3: people dozens still unaccounted. For and joining me now IS
Speaker 3: Cnn Raportter live From Central, Texas Lee, Waldman, lee thank
Speaker 3: you very much for joining. Us, look this has been
Speaker 3: particularly tragic because so many.
Speaker 2: Children have been.
Speaker 3: Killed what are some of the stories you're hearing that
Speaker 3: are emerging from devastated families whose little girls were at summer.
Speaker 2: Camps, sure it's good to be with, you and you're exactly.
Speaker 7: Right there's so much heartbreak that's here after these devastating.
Speaker 7: Floods more than one hundred people have, died but here
Speaker 7: In Kirk county where we, are the death toll continues
Speaker 7: to rise at a rapid. Rate we've talked so much
Speaker 7: About Camp, mystic that all girls, camp located right along
Speaker 7: The Guadalupe. River there was twenty seven lives that were
Speaker 7: lost there and stories of, heartbreak stories of counselors trying
Speaker 7: to save the kids inside of their. Cabins in the
Speaker 7: families of these children who were losting their kids were
Speaker 7: sent there to have a great, summer to make, memories
Speaker 7: telling us that their kids brought light to every room
Speaker 7: that they walked. In it's truly. Heartbreaking but we also
Speaker 7: want to talk about the director of that, camp Mister.
Speaker 7: Eastland he, died according to his, family trying to save
Speaker 7: the kids at this, camp trying to get them out
Speaker 7: of the rising water two higher grounds so they could
Speaker 7: so they could get to, safety and unfortunately he was
Speaker 7: swept away by these. Floodwaters we're hearing so many stories
Speaker 7: of heroism, here of people risking everything to try and
Speaker 7: save those who were around.
Speaker 2: Them it's truly.
Speaker 3: Heartbreaking there's a lot of discussionally about whether the warnings were.
Speaker 2: Adequate of course they. Weren't what notice were?
Speaker 3: Families were people having holidays there or at the? Camps
Speaker 3: what notice were they given that there would be life
Speaker 3: threatening flash, Flooding.
Speaker 2: Sherry that's a good.
Speaker 7: Question so we know that this area is very popular
Speaker 7: for camping for families to spend The fourth Of july,
Speaker 7: holiday especially on the.
Speaker 2: River that's something we do a lot here In.
Speaker 7: Texas we know that alerts were sent out to this
Speaker 7: area by The National Weather service three times On friday,
Speaker 7: morning around one, am around three thirty, am and around four. Am,
Speaker 7: now some, people including the mayor Of, curveville where we
Speaker 7: are right, now said that they never received any kind
Speaker 7: of alert alerting them about the floodwater that was. COMING
Speaker 7: fema has put out information about why some people might
Speaker 7: not have gotten an.
Speaker 2: Alerts to their.
Speaker 7: Phone it could have to do with them turning off
Speaker 7: the emergency alerts on their, phones but also could have
Speaker 7: to do with cell phone signal and cell phone coverage
Speaker 7: in this, area something our team has also had to
Speaker 7: battle in some of these more rural areas not being
Speaker 7: able to get cell, signals so that plays a role
Speaker 7: in whether or not people were able to receive those
Speaker 7: types of. Alerts, now not far from where we are
Speaker 7: here In, curve there's a town Called, comfort and In, Comfort,
Speaker 7: texas they're also prone to. Flooding like we saw, here
Speaker 7: they have an emergency alert system that sounded a siren
Speaker 7: about the rising floodwater and there is no futalities in that, community.
Speaker 3: Which shows the importance of those public siren. Systems Lee,
Speaker 3: woldman thank you very much for joining us at that
Speaker 3: very early hour five forty am in Central.
Speaker 2: Texas thank you now still to.
Speaker 3: Come Andrew carswell And Camra milner with me live to
Speaker 3: talk INTRODUCING us style primaries to select liberal.
Speaker 2: Candidates will that help the. Party that's.
Speaker 3: Next welcome back and let's bring in our political panel
Speaker 3: now Former Morrison Press Secretary Andrew carswell and Former Labor
Speaker 3: State Secretary Camer.
Speaker 2: Milner great to see you. Both let's start with the.
Speaker 3: Coalition The liberals are now exploring ways to rebuild the
Speaker 3: party's core support after their devastating election result and.
Speaker 2: Along with more women in the party.
Speaker 3: Room one idea that's been floated is For liberal candidates
Speaker 3: to be selected by the general, public so not Just
Speaker 3: Liberal party members and having A us style primary. System
Speaker 3: this would allow local voters to have a say in
Speaker 3: who the candidates, are regardless of whether they are Carrying
Speaker 3: Liberal party members card Carrying Liberal party. Members Julian lisa
Speaker 3: has supported this. Idea he says it's the best way
Speaker 3: to ensure that our members reflect the communities that they.
Speaker 3: Represent it's to have the largest number of members of
Speaker 3: the general community choose.
Speaker 2: Them, andrew what do you?
Speaker 3: THINK i think it would be hard to disagree with this,
Speaker 3: idea Giving australians a, say, well they've got to try.
Speaker 14: Something shari to freshen things up and explore other avenues
Speaker 14: to attract the right candidates and get the right candidates into,
Speaker 14: parliament and particularly to attract more women into parliament and
Speaker 14: get them into successful positions where they can be in
Speaker 14: Part AND i think that this, issue this, way this
Speaker 14: mechanism will do. THAT i, mean you can have all the,
Speaker 14: rhetoric can hold all the good intentions in the world
Speaker 14: about trying to get more women in, parliament but unless
Speaker 14: you've got a mechanism that will allow that to, happen
Speaker 14: it won't happen to the same degree as it does
Speaker 14: in The Labor party where you have a. Quota now
Speaker 14: quotas it not everyone's cup of tea within the. Party
Speaker 14: that's clearly evident at what we've seen this week with
Speaker 14: the bickering that goes on between the right and the.
Speaker 14: Left but when you put the power in the hands
Speaker 14: of the public to, decide you're going to get an
Speaker 14: outcome that is the equivalent of a quota style. Outcome
Speaker 14: the public want more women in, parliament they want people
Speaker 14: from more diverse, backgrounds they want people from more diverse
Speaker 14: professional backgrounds as well as ethnic. Backgrounds they want that gender.
Speaker 14: Neutrality so we will see the results that the party's
Speaker 14: trying to strive. For AND i Think susan's walk this
Speaker 14: line very, well very. Wisely she's not going to be
Speaker 14: a bulldozer on this. Issue she's going to bring the
Speaker 14: party with, her and this is the first step with.
Speaker 3: That the only flip, Side Cameron milner is that if
Speaker 3: they're not members of The Liberal, party then they don't
Speaker 3: hold the.
Speaker 2: Values necessarily of The Liberal. Party so you could.
Speaker 3: Have green style voters selecting A liberal. Candidate so that
Speaker 3: would be very, problematic.
Speaker 1: It would be And Shari, Look Labor party looked at
Speaker 1: this actually fifteen years Ago Forkeda carr And braxware review
Speaker 1: into our twenty ten federal election in which they actually
Speaker 1: came out with the idea of. Primary so this is
Speaker 1: not new to major polical parties to look at and
Speaker 1: grapple with about how they find better. Candidates but you're,
Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean in THE us the experiences you actually
Speaker 1: have tactical. Voting you Have democrats voting for the most,
Speaker 1: extreme Extreme republican candidates in certain pre selections to try
Speaker 1: to get a candidate who's unelectable pre. Selected so now
Speaker 1: there's a lot of INTERFERENCE i think in primaries that
Speaker 1: it's not well. Understood and at the end of the,
Speaker 1: day party. Members party members are actually going to reflect the,
Speaker 1: community not just some artificial preselection. Process but CAN i
Speaker 1: say it wasn't the quality of the, Candidates it was
Speaker 1: the quality of the campaign and a complete lack of
Speaker 1: policies that let The Liberal party down and smash their
Speaker 1: primary wasn't the, candidates he was the. Campaign and also.
Speaker 3: It's who's running and whether that person as leader connects With.
Speaker 3: Australians and you, KNOW i Think Peter dartten was. Terrific
Speaker 3: we had him on the show a lot of, times
Speaker 3: but for whatever, reason there was that disconnected In australians
Speaker 3: didn't feel like they knew him well. Enough so they
Speaker 3: were influenced by the scare campaigns that labor around so,
Speaker 3: successfully and they could see in their polling the immediate
Speaker 3: impact of those scare, campaigns and people believed them and
Speaker 3: they were influenced by.
Speaker 2: Them NOW i want to.
Speaker 3: Return to The albanese government and particularly The prime minister
Speaker 3: making his fourth trip To. Beijing while the relationship with
Speaker 3: THE us is, Failing, andrew there seems to be an
Speaker 3: inversion of foreign. POLICY i, mean as alban easy forgotten
Speaker 3: How china has Treated australia over many years you saw
Speaker 3: it up, close since your old boss dared to call
Speaker 3: for an inquiry into the origins of the pandemic that
Speaker 3: killed millions around the.
Speaker 14: World, yeah what's troubling, Here shari is there's an increasing
Speaker 14: alignment on our foreign posture and our foreign rhetoric and
Speaker 14: our foreign positions With, china with The Chinese Communist party
Speaker 14: as opposed to traditional sense we would have alignment with
Speaker 14: our alliance partners in THE us and our partners In
Speaker 14: europe as. Well there is an increasing alignment With china
Speaker 14: when it comes to, defense and this would Make chinese officials.
Speaker 14: Please there is no doubt about, that particularly as The
Speaker 14: Prime minister heads To china this. Week china is increasingly
Speaker 14: expansionist in its view of the, world Whereas australia is
Speaker 14: increasingly isolated and insulance thinking in the. World that Pleases.
Speaker 14: Beijing china is racing its defense, Spending it's increasing its defense.
Speaker 14: Capabilities ours is tracking, sideways and they're ignoring every effort
Speaker 14: from our alliance partners to increase our defense. Spending this Pleases,
Speaker 14: china there is no doubt about. That AND i think
Speaker 14: The Prime minister And Foreign Minister wong think they're actually
Speaker 14: winning this argument on defense. Spending think they think they're
Speaker 14: actually doing the right thing. Here and you, know this
Speaker 14: is The prome minister that was going to walk into
Speaker 14: a meeting With Donald trump at THE g seven and
Speaker 14: say the reason we're not going to increase our defense
Speaker 14: spending is because we HOST us troops On australian, soil
Speaker 14: like that was a. Thing you, know there's THIRTEEN us
Speaker 14: bases in THE, uk there's FORTY us military installations In.
Speaker 14: Germany do they get a discount on their defense? Spending,
Speaker 14: no they increased it to five.
Speaker 2: Percent.
Speaker 3: YEAH i think the foreign policy is just so confused
Speaker 3: under the current, government mostly the fauld Of Penywang.
Speaker 2: CAMERA i, mean.
Speaker 3: This is absurd what we're playing out a prime minister
Speaker 3: who has no relationship with The president of The United.
Speaker 2: States when has that? Happened not in our living?
Speaker 1: Memory and that's that's the real. Risk, KIRSHARI i, mean
Speaker 1: this is this is inverted foreign. Policy we favor our
Speaker 1: enemies over our allies and that's a huge. Problem but
Speaker 1: isn't you, know Isn't alba getting this down of fine,
Speaker 1: art sucking up to The chinese and chasing gratuitous compliments
Speaker 1: like handsome. BOY i, mean he doesn't want a meeting
Speaker 1: With trump because that's a hard meeting to. Have he,
Speaker 1: wants you, know spring rolls In beijing because that's easy and,
Speaker 1: lazy and so that's the. Problem we actually have to
Speaker 1: have a conversation With. Trump we have to deal with
Speaker 1: THE us. Administration we have to deal with our long term,
Speaker 1: allies like THE, uk Like, israel like THE. Us we
Speaker 1: can't be sucking up To china because ultimately they're not our,
Speaker 1: friends they're our.
Speaker 3: Foe And, cameron you, know you've also made the point
Speaker 3: in your column In The nightly this week as well
Speaker 3: about how foreign policy is impacting on Anti semitism and
Speaker 3: social cohesion here because the government's constantly Painting israel as the.
Speaker 2: Enemy can you just expand on that.
Speaker 1: Point, look Anti semitism is a scourge that's been centuries.
Speaker 1: Old we wanted to finish it, off and we should
Speaker 1: have finished, off and it's now come. Back it's come
Speaker 1: back because of Weak albanese government that acquiesces and wrings
Speaker 1: its hands when it sees synagogue's being. Burnt we've had
Speaker 1: now two singhogs being. Burnt this is a real, crisis
Speaker 1: a real crisis that needs real leadership and that's what
Speaker 1: we're crying out from from This albanese.
Speaker 2: Government, yeah do you think we're going to get? It Andrew?
Speaker 2: Carswell do you?
Speaker 3: Think because you're not going to have time to answer.
Speaker 3: Him BUT i suspect now that the election's, over we
Speaker 3: are seeing a bit of a shift in their. LANGUAGE
Speaker 3: i was very surprised At Tony burke's comments On. Sunday
Speaker 3: they were better than we've seen in the past couple of,
Speaker 3: years and it's probably because the election's. Over see he's
Speaker 3: not worried about The muslim vote in marginal Western sydney.
Speaker 3: Seats so Maybe i'm going to be disappointed yet, again
Speaker 3: but perhaps there is reason to hope that there might
Speaker 3: actually take some action now that the election's.
Speaker 2: Over we'll.
Speaker 3: See Maybe i'll be, disappointed probably will Be Andrew.
Speaker 2: Carswell Carara.
Speaker 3: Mina great to have you on the, show And i'll
Speaker 3: be back tomorrow at eight. O'clock and right, now Here's
Speaker 3: Paul murray