1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:13,321 Speaker 1: Apogee Production. Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashy 2 00:00:13,361 --> 00:00:16,921 Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana. This podcast is about female empowerment. 3 00:00:16,521 --> 00:00:19,241 Speaker 2: And encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, and most 4 00:00:19,281 --> 00:00:20,881 Speaker 2: authentic version of yourself. 5 00:00:21,041 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level. 6 00:00:23,401 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone 7 00:00:26,321 --> 00:00:27,881 Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about. 8 00:00:28,481 --> 00:00:30,801 Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self. 9 00:00:31,881 --> 00:00:35,601 Speaker 1: Hello, good morning everybody. Welcome back to She Rises Wednesday episode. 10 00:00:36,441 --> 00:00:37,561 Speaker 1: It's a bit of life and updates. 11 00:00:37,641 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we love a life update, but an 12 00:00:40,081 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: honest one. 13 00:00:40,801 --> 00:00:44,081 Speaker 1: Yeah, an honest one, the whole Goodbye twenty twenty five, 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,041 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six is going to be amazing about you. 15 00:00:47,081 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: But it's kind of got a lot of leftover residue. 16 00:00:49,561 --> 00:00:51,721 Speaker 2: Reflaty, there is some residue. 17 00:00:51,801 --> 00:00:54,721 Speaker 1: The snake is snaking. The snake is snaky. 18 00:00:54,961 --> 00:00:57,401 Speaker 2: I just would like to formally ask where the horse is. 19 00:00:58,281 --> 00:01:01,281 Speaker 1: I think it's been lost. He got lost along the way. 20 00:01:01,321 --> 00:01:04,281 Speaker 1: For sure. We wanted to talk about this because every 21 00:01:04,361 --> 00:01:08,321 Speaker 1: single person I know this year's been fucking hard, so hard. 22 00:01:08,441 --> 00:01:11,521 Speaker 1: Everyone's super disregulated, going through a lot. They're having to 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,441 Speaker 1: make big decisions they're grieving like it has just been 24 00:01:14,761 --> 00:01:16,521 Speaker 1: a heavy start to the year. I have not felt 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: this anxious in a very very long time. Even like 26 00:01:20,761 --> 00:01:24,801 Speaker 1: the smallest of tasks just feel really difficult. My sleep's 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,041 Speaker 1: gone shit again. It's just so much happening over my 28 00:01:28,121 --> 00:01:32,041 Speaker 1: head yep, and in all of like life. So we 29 00:01:32,081 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: want to talk about it today. So if you're feeling 30 00:01:33,761 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: like we are, you are not alone. Before we get started, 31 00:01:36,601 --> 00:01:38,521 Speaker 1: I want to actually read out what I read to 32 00:01:38,521 --> 00:01:40,121 Speaker 1: Towna this morning about that snake. 33 00:01:40,441 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: This was amazing. If you guys feel something from this 34 00:01:43,441 --> 00:01:46,201 Speaker 2: and you have some really pivotal realizations, please send us 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,721 Speaker 2: a DM on cheer rises. Yeah, love to hear about it. 36 00:01:48,721 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: So, if you haven't heard about the snake and the horse, 37 00:01:50,961 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: it's like basically the inn how snakes shed their skin. 38 00:01:54,281 --> 00:01:57,001 Speaker 1: Apparently all of last year is even longer. Is this 39 00:01:57,081 --> 00:01:58,921 Speaker 1: like a nine new cycle end of a nine new cycle? 40 00:01:59,161 --> 00:02:01,441 Speaker 2: Yes, but I think last year was just the year, the. 41 00:02:01,321 --> 00:02:04,401 Speaker 1: Final the final shed of everything that's not serving you. 42 00:02:04,481 --> 00:02:06,321 Speaker 1: So if you're a bit of a limbo situation at 43 00:02:06,321 --> 00:02:08,441 Speaker 1: the moment where you're trying to decide whether to end 44 00:02:08,441 --> 00:02:12,521 Speaker 1: a relationship or maybe change jobs or start something new, 45 00:02:12,601 --> 00:02:14,921 Speaker 1: or just anything that's feeling heavy and not aligned anymore. 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,561 Speaker 1: And then the horse comes in and it's full bolting forward. 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,761 Speaker 1: It's like expansion, its growth, it's clarity, it's big money, 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: it's opportunity, yeah, thriving relationships. So if you've been feeling 49 00:02:26,001 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: on edge, then listen to this. Steveson is to a 50 00:02:28,441 --> 00:02:30,721 Speaker 1: town and NEI this morning when I drive up the 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: final shedding. This is not a gentle ending. The last 52 00:02:33,401 --> 00:02:35,641 Speaker 1: shedding of the snake year is deep, intense and one 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,601 Speaker 1: of the most powerful moments of the cycle, the call inward. 54 00:02:38,721 --> 00:02:40,881 Speaker 1: While you've been in a wood snake energy for almost 55 00:02:40,921 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: a year, it's likely felt especially intense over the past 56 00:02:43,881 --> 00:02:46,241 Speaker 1: few weeks. This is a call inward, a sense that 57 00:02:46,321 --> 00:02:48,561 Speaker 1: something inside you is shifting, like standing on the edge 58 00:02:48,561 --> 00:02:52,201 Speaker 1: of something new, something big. This is the snake energy. 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five was a year of powerful, real, deep transformation, 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,521 Speaker 1: a breaking down of all of what was and all 61 00:02:58,561 --> 00:03:03,561 Speaker 1: that needs to leave, unlearning, releasing shedding, complete identity shifts 62 00:03:03,561 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: that can't be forced or rushed, and the last few 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: weeks have been some of the most intense of all 64 00:03:08,721 --> 00:03:11,121 Speaker 1: the kind of change that reshapes you at a soul level, 65 00:03:11,841 --> 00:03:16,201 Speaker 1: everything is dissolving, rearranging, completing, ending. It works through your 66 00:03:16,201 --> 00:03:19,161 Speaker 1: nervous system. You're subconscious your body, and the shifts can 67 00:03:19,161 --> 00:03:21,841 Speaker 1: feel sudden, intense, or completely shake you to your core. 68 00:03:22,321 --> 00:03:25,921 Speaker 1: You might be feeling heavy, stark, confused, emotional like pieces 69 00:03:25,921 --> 00:03:28,041 Speaker 1: of you are falling away and wondering why is this 70 00:03:28,081 --> 00:03:31,521 Speaker 1: still happening? The last skin. This is the final piece 71 00:03:31,561 --> 00:03:33,641 Speaker 1: of the skin that needs to shed, the story you 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,001 Speaker 1: almost carried forward, the part of you that clung the longest. 73 00:03:37,241 --> 00:03:40,121 Speaker 1: It isn't loud as snake sheds, and stillness, almost like 74 00:03:40,161 --> 00:03:43,001 Speaker 1: nothing is happening, but a new version is waiting quietly underneath. 75 00:03:43,641 --> 00:03:46,041 Speaker 1: It's time to let go. You can't force this, you 76 00:03:46,041 --> 00:03:49,441 Speaker 1: can't rush it, so let yourself be still. Notice what's 77 00:03:49,481 --> 00:03:53,961 Speaker 1: happening inside. It's an unraveling, are remembering, outgrowing what once 78 00:03:54,041 --> 00:03:56,841 Speaker 1: held you, a quiet rising of awareness that this is 79 00:03:56,921 --> 00:04:00,481 Speaker 1: exactly what needs to happen. Don't hold on, release what 80 00:04:00,601 --> 00:04:03,761 Speaker 1: no longer serves you. Because your identity is shifting. You 81 00:04:03,801 --> 00:04:05,641 Speaker 1: may even feel like you don't know who you are anymore. 82 00:04:06,081 --> 00:04:08,481 Speaker 1: So take a moment now to yourself. What version of 83 00:04:08,521 --> 00:04:12,441 Speaker 1: me is complete? And what am I leaving? Behind. Your 84 00:04:12,481 --> 00:04:15,161 Speaker 1: body wants to cling to the familiar to stay safe, 85 00:04:15,201 --> 00:04:17,401 Speaker 1: but the snake is clearing the path for what's next. 86 00:04:17,921 --> 00:04:22,041 Speaker 1: The fire horse is coming. The snake clears the path, 87 00:04:22,081 --> 00:04:28,161 Speaker 1: where's the fire horse will run with it. It's momentum, courage, expansion, visibility, power, speed, 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,001 Speaker 1: and it doesn't move slowly. It's time to decide what 89 00:04:31,121 --> 00:04:33,841 Speaker 1: version you want to move forward with. So that was 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: just like a brief outline of all means. I love that, 91 00:04:37,201 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: So I'm freaking cool. 92 00:04:38,841 --> 00:04:40,361 Speaker 2: I remember when you read that in the car. I 93 00:04:40,401 --> 00:04:41,801 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I need to do this 94 00:04:41,801 --> 00:04:44,881 Speaker 2: this and this I activation in me, and even you 95 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,801 Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, I feel like this for you. Yeah, 96 00:04:46,841 --> 00:04:49,681 Speaker 2: it's just I feel like it really showcases everything that 97 00:04:49,801 --> 00:04:52,921 Speaker 2: was last year and everything that is going to come now. Yes, 98 00:04:53,281 --> 00:04:56,161 Speaker 2: but also there's this still like really weird in between 99 00:04:56,281 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: area of like yeah, still shedding, but not yet fully 100 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: in that momentum energy yet. And it's definitely been like 101 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,841 Speaker 2: that for us over the last like six weeks especially. 102 00:05:05,121 --> 00:05:07,001 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been big decisions to be made and a 103 00:05:07,041 --> 00:05:08,841 Speaker 1: lot of fear, Like I feel like it's a lot 104 00:05:08,841 --> 00:05:11,001 Speaker 1: of fear of well, if I don't do this, or 105 00:05:11,001 --> 00:05:12,641 Speaker 1: if I do this and what it doesn't feel right? 106 00:05:12,721 --> 00:05:14,281 Speaker 1: Or what if? What? Like a lot of what if? 107 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,521 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of confusion energy rather than being certain 108 00:05:17,601 --> 00:05:20,601 Speaker 2: like yes right, or like being decisive. I felt like 109 00:05:20,641 --> 00:05:23,001 Speaker 2: I've sat in a lot of like indecisive energy over 110 00:05:23,001 --> 00:05:25,761 Speaker 2: this last like six weeks and just you mentioning how 111 00:05:25,801 --> 00:05:27,801 Speaker 2: you haven't felt this anxious in a really long time. 112 00:05:28,281 --> 00:05:30,961 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm just regulated all the time. Yeah, 113 00:05:31,201 --> 00:05:34,281 Speaker 2: Like I find like it's taking me a lot longer 114 00:05:34,281 --> 00:05:37,681 Speaker 2: than normal to regulate myself and bound myself back, So 115 00:05:37,721 --> 00:05:39,921 Speaker 2: like I have to actively spend time going to the 116 00:05:39,921 --> 00:05:44,041 Speaker 2: beach or like unplugging from my phone, fusing oh my gosh. Yeah, 117 00:05:44,081 --> 00:05:47,561 Speaker 2: like really really leaning on those things, and like showing 118 00:05:47,641 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: up in a like doubling down on those doubling down. 119 00:05:50,841 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: That's how it feels. I feel like I've got to 120 00:05:53,081 --> 00:05:56,921 Speaker 2: double down in this season because what used to work 121 00:05:57,401 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it works as easy now. Yeah, So 122 00:05:59,401 --> 00:06:01,961 Speaker 2: it's like I have to go ham on implementing those 123 00:06:01,961 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: things just to say like okay, just to get my 124 00:06:04,521 --> 00:06:04,961 Speaker 2: back to my BA. 125 00:06:05,761 --> 00:06:06,001 Speaker 1: Yes. 126 00:06:06,401 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: But I think like in preparation of like twenty twenty six, 127 00:06:09,361 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: we know we have a big year coming and we've 128 00:06:12,081 --> 00:06:14,521 Speaker 2: got everything planned and mapped out, and you know, there's 129 00:06:14,561 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: so much happening, and then it's just like all the 130 00:06:17,361 --> 00:06:22,081 Speaker 2: personal stuff too. Yeah, personal experiences, personal challenges, big decisions 131 00:06:22,161 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: be made, big investments, you know, all of those things. 132 00:06:25,521 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like this last six weeks too, that 133 00:06:29,001 --> 00:06:32,561 Speaker 1: I've been feeling anxious. It's like everything that I avoided 134 00:06:32,601 --> 00:06:35,041 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five that I should have been shedding 135 00:06:35,041 --> 00:06:38,041 Speaker 1: and clearing. Yeah, it's like creeping up to the very seventeen. 136 00:06:38,041 --> 00:06:39,281 Speaker 1: It's like you got to get rid of this shit, 137 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,561 Speaker 1: and not get rid of it, but like, yeah, move 138 00:06:40,641 --> 00:06:43,121 Speaker 1: through it and stop avoiding it. That was things like 139 00:06:43,121 --> 00:06:47,761 Speaker 1: my old wounds, Rambo's birthday, Rainbo's anniversary, death, that I 140 00:06:47,801 --> 00:06:49,441 Speaker 1: avoided that as much as I could because it's so 141 00:06:49,521 --> 00:06:52,841 Speaker 1: uncomfortable to sit with different things in relationship dynamics that 142 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,841 Speaker 1: I just like didn't know what to do with or 143 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,721 Speaker 1: how to move through it. Yeah, clarity around work and 144 00:06:57,761 --> 00:06:59,321 Speaker 1: how exactly we want it to look and how we're 145 00:06:59,361 --> 00:07:01,361 Speaker 1: going to make it all fit in, and just a 146 00:07:01,401 --> 00:07:04,281 Speaker 1: lot of head noise. Yeah, I can see where I 147 00:07:04,281 --> 00:07:05,961 Speaker 1: want to go, but I'm I feel like i'm kind 148 00:07:06,001 --> 00:07:07,841 Speaker 1: of stuck in the mud at the moment, Yes, trying 149 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,041 Speaker 1: to like get myself off and wash myself off. 150 00:07:10,161 --> 00:07:12,481 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I understand that. I feel like for me 151 00:07:12,561 --> 00:07:15,361 Speaker 2: as well, I felt really like emotionally burnt out towards 152 00:07:15,361 --> 00:07:18,641 Speaker 2: the end of the year, like because I was like pushing, pushing, pushing, 153 00:07:18,641 --> 00:07:20,321 Speaker 2: and then when Christmas came, I got sick for two 154 00:07:20,361 --> 00:07:22,441 Speaker 2: weeks and it just felt like, you know, like you're 155 00:07:22,441 --> 00:07:24,841 Speaker 2: really really busy and then you stop and then you crumble. Yeah, 156 00:07:24,841 --> 00:07:27,401 Speaker 2: it's like that that happened for me, And so I 157 00:07:27,401 --> 00:07:29,681 Speaker 2: felt like emotionally burned out because I was trying to 158 00:07:29,721 --> 00:07:32,321 Speaker 2: just push and like a bit of brute force. And 159 00:07:32,361 --> 00:07:34,001 Speaker 2: then I rested and I was like, okay, cool, now 160 00:07:34,041 --> 00:07:36,441 Speaker 2: this is my time to kind of recoup. And then 161 00:07:36,521 --> 00:07:38,321 Speaker 2: I ended up going to Bali and it was just 162 00:07:38,361 --> 00:07:39,921 Speaker 2: like a bit of a strange time to go to 163 00:07:40,001 --> 00:07:42,081 Speaker 2: Bali because it was like, once everybody had come back 164 00:07:42,121 --> 00:07:44,281 Speaker 2: for work, I had spent one week back at work, 165 00:07:44,281 --> 00:07:45,841 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I'm off on a holiday. Yeah, 166 00:07:45,841 --> 00:07:47,641 Speaker 2: and it just like I was almost ready to get 167 00:07:47,681 --> 00:07:51,081 Speaker 2: into that momentum energy And you wouldn't believe it. Who 168 00:07:51,081 --> 00:07:54,321 Speaker 2: would have thought that solo travel would make you reevaluate 169 00:07:54,361 --> 00:07:54,921 Speaker 2: your whole life. 170 00:07:55,041 --> 00:07:57,001 Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually have time space to think about. 171 00:07:57,041 --> 00:07:59,281 Speaker 2: I remember going away and being like, wow, I have 172 00:07:59,481 --> 00:08:02,041 Speaker 2: so much time. There's no one around. And I just 173 00:08:02,201 --> 00:08:05,721 Speaker 2: spent what felt like two weeks in my head just 174 00:08:06,041 --> 00:08:09,321 Speaker 2: processing and this and thinking about this and thinking about 175 00:08:09,361 --> 00:08:12,281 Speaker 2: my life and business and have structured everything in my 176 00:08:12,321 --> 00:08:14,401 Speaker 2: life and what I don't want any more and what 177 00:08:14,441 --> 00:08:16,801 Speaker 2: I do want, And it just felt like this constant 178 00:08:16,801 --> 00:08:20,601 Speaker 2: loop in my head of like preparing almost for your head. 179 00:08:21,121 --> 00:08:21,801 Speaker 1: But it's heavy. 180 00:08:22,041 --> 00:08:25,401 Speaker 2: It's so heavy, heavy and dysregulating and confusing, and. 181 00:08:25,441 --> 00:08:27,361 Speaker 1: When you actually don't know what decision to make, it's 182 00:08:27,881 --> 00:08:28,841 Speaker 1: it consumes you. 183 00:08:29,081 --> 00:08:31,001 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for a long time as well, Like 184 00:08:31,041 --> 00:08:33,361 Speaker 2: even just in business and stuff, you know, you learn 185 00:08:33,401 --> 00:08:35,761 Speaker 2: how to be decisive, move on things, make decisions quickly. 186 00:08:36,001 --> 00:08:37,601 Speaker 2: It is last like four weeks. I'm like, I don't 187 00:08:37,601 --> 00:08:39,281 Speaker 2: feel like I'm doing that at all. Yeah, you know, 188 00:08:39,561 --> 00:08:42,321 Speaker 2: it's hard to be sitting in the discomfort of that 189 00:08:42,841 --> 00:08:45,441 Speaker 2: and not feeling like, oh, like quote unquote call my 190 00:08:45,481 --> 00:08:48,081 Speaker 2: shit together. I'm just in this, in this bit of 191 00:08:48,121 --> 00:08:52,121 Speaker 2: not chaos but discomfort, yes, discomfort, and. 192 00:08:52,201 --> 00:08:54,201 Speaker 1: Also knowing it gets to a point where like you're 193 00:08:54,201 --> 00:08:56,401 Speaker 1: sitting in that discomfort, you actually have to make a decision, 194 00:08:56,841 --> 00:08:59,241 Speaker 1: and is your decision coming from a place of fear, yes, 195 00:08:59,481 --> 00:09:01,961 Speaker 1: or is it actually the right decision. Yeah, that's where 196 00:09:02,001 --> 00:09:03,321 Speaker 1: we're kind of in at the moment with a few 197 00:09:03,321 --> 00:09:05,681 Speaker 1: things of like okay, and even last week when we 198 00:09:05,761 --> 00:09:08,641 Speaker 1: hired a new business coach, like it's just so scary, 199 00:09:09,401 --> 00:09:11,721 Speaker 1: it's such a huge investment, and there's parts of us 200 00:09:11,881 --> 00:09:13,841 Speaker 1: like this isn't the right time to invest on that money, 201 00:09:13,881 --> 00:09:16,681 Speaker 1: Like that's all in and what if it doesn't work, 202 00:09:16,721 --> 00:09:18,961 Speaker 1: and like, oh my gosh, what if I don't know, 203 00:09:19,121 --> 00:09:21,881 Speaker 1: just all just all the world. Yeah. Yeah, we actually 204 00:09:21,881 --> 00:09:23,721 Speaker 1: had just had to be like okay, let's just fucking 205 00:09:23,721 --> 00:09:25,601 Speaker 1: pay it, lock it in, because otherwise we're going to 206 00:09:25,641 --> 00:09:28,161 Speaker 1: sit here and talk ourselves out of it. Yeah. 207 00:09:28,241 --> 00:09:30,201 Speaker 2: And we made the decision while I was in Bali too, 208 00:09:30,241 --> 00:09:32,041 Speaker 2: so we were on the phone to each other like 209 00:09:32,441 --> 00:09:34,401 Speaker 2: what about this and what about this? And this feels 210 00:09:34,441 --> 00:09:36,641 Speaker 2: like the right decision, but also does it And yeah, 211 00:09:36,681 --> 00:09:39,241 Speaker 2: this real in between energy of like Okay, we know 212 00:09:39,281 --> 00:09:41,081 Speaker 2: where we want to go, we know what we need 213 00:09:41,081 --> 00:09:42,481 Speaker 2: to do to get there, and this feels like a 214 00:09:42,521 --> 00:09:44,481 Speaker 2: decision that will help us get there, but it doesn't 215 00:09:44,481 --> 00:09:46,521 Speaker 2: mean that it doesn't come without any fear. So because 216 00:09:46,521 --> 00:09:49,561 Speaker 2: they were both like all of our stories were coming up, yeah, 217 00:09:49,721 --> 00:09:51,481 Speaker 2: and she was like I feel this and I think this, 218 00:09:51,561 --> 00:09:53,081 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I feel this and I think this. 219 00:09:53,441 --> 00:09:56,081 Speaker 2: It was just so interesting to witness in that because 220 00:09:56,161 --> 00:10:00,761 Speaker 2: it's like that was our threshold, you know, for comfort. Yeah, 221 00:10:00,801 --> 00:10:03,281 Speaker 2: and we just like so much like pushed outside of 222 00:10:03,321 --> 00:10:04,761 Speaker 2: that like threshold of comfort. 223 00:10:05,121 --> 00:10:07,721 Speaker 1: It's crazy when you get anxious, because anxiety, I truly 224 00:10:07,761 --> 00:10:10,281 Speaker 1: believe when you're anxious, you're worried about the future. Yeah, 225 00:10:10,321 --> 00:10:12,241 Speaker 1: And when you're feeling depressed, you're living in the past. 226 00:10:12,281 --> 00:10:14,561 Speaker 1: You're not just present and you're not You're anxious. You're 227 00:10:14,561 --> 00:10:16,761 Speaker 1: not trusting that the universe has your back. You're not 228 00:10:16,761 --> 00:10:19,041 Speaker 1: trusting that everything's going to work out. And I haven't 229 00:10:19,081 --> 00:10:21,961 Speaker 1: felt this anxious for so long. But you're right. You 230 00:10:22,001 --> 00:10:24,961 Speaker 1: have to double down on everything to regulate. Like if 231 00:10:25,041 --> 00:10:27,041 Speaker 1: I meditate at night to put me to sleep, and 232 00:10:27,081 --> 00:10:28,961 Speaker 1: now I'm like I have to do it morning as well. Yes, 233 00:10:29,241 --> 00:10:31,201 Speaker 1: And I take ten bid breaths in the morning and 234 00:10:31,241 --> 00:10:32,601 Speaker 1: now I'm like, Okay, I'm actually going to sit for 235 00:10:32,641 --> 00:10:35,561 Speaker 1: five minutes and complete silence and go down to the 236 00:10:35,561 --> 00:10:38,241 Speaker 1: beach more and just find it's like my toolboxes in 237 00:10:38,241 --> 00:10:39,801 Speaker 1: front of me, which we teach in Rise and Side. 238 00:10:39,801 --> 00:10:42,041 Speaker 1: We teach you how to create a toolbox, and it's like, Okay, 239 00:10:42,081 --> 00:10:44,601 Speaker 1: these tools work for this kind of scenario, but doesn't 240 00:10:44,601 --> 00:10:46,001 Speaker 1: work for that scenario. And when I feel like this, 241 00:10:46,281 --> 00:10:48,121 Speaker 1: I actually need to pull something else. And it's just 242 00:10:48,201 --> 00:10:50,081 Speaker 1: finding as many tools as you can to help you 243 00:10:50,081 --> 00:10:52,601 Speaker 1: support you through this time because it is a heavier 244 00:10:52,681 --> 00:10:56,041 Speaker 1: season and life. It's not always going to feel great. No, 245 00:10:56,121 --> 00:10:57,841 Speaker 1: it's going to be so many hard times where you 246 00:10:57,841 --> 00:11:00,321 Speaker 1: get thrown challenges that you didn't expect and you have 247 00:11:00,321 --> 00:11:02,161 Speaker 1: to support yourself the best way that you can. But 248 00:11:02,241 --> 00:11:04,561 Speaker 1: being this limbo of like the what ifs and the fear, 249 00:11:04,561 --> 00:11:06,081 Speaker 1: it's it's very uncomfortable. 250 00:11:06,121 --> 00:11:08,921 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you're trying to reason with like logic 251 00:11:09,001 --> 00:11:09,921 Speaker 2: and your emotions. 252 00:11:10,001 --> 00:11:12,121 Speaker 1: You know, it's like an intuition. 253 00:11:12,041 --> 00:11:15,001 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, because you're trying to discern which one is, 254 00:11:15,041 --> 00:11:19,161 Speaker 2: what which voice is, Which is this actually fear or 255 00:11:19,241 --> 00:11:21,641 Speaker 2: is this intuition that's trying to warn me or is 256 00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:23,921 Speaker 2: this the most logical way forward? You know, you're trying 257 00:11:23,961 --> 00:11:27,241 Speaker 2: to like barter with yourself, right, all the different ways 258 00:11:27,241 --> 00:11:30,161 Speaker 2: that you could go head noise. But like the longer 259 00:11:30,201 --> 00:11:32,281 Speaker 2: you sit in that confusion, the heart of the decision 260 00:11:32,321 --> 00:11:35,401 Speaker 2: feels because you just you take into consideration all the 261 00:11:35,401 --> 00:11:37,721 Speaker 2: options and then you're like, Okay, well I haven't got 262 00:11:37,721 --> 00:11:38,801 Speaker 2: any closer to my decision. 263 00:11:39,361 --> 00:11:41,401 Speaker 1: Yes, you know. And it's also a good time to 264 00:11:41,441 --> 00:11:43,121 Speaker 1: reach out for help and support as well. Like I 265 00:11:43,241 --> 00:11:44,561 Speaker 1: just got a new coach and I had a session 266 00:11:44,561 --> 00:11:47,921 Speaker 1: with them last week, and fuck it rocked me. Oh, 267 00:11:47,961 --> 00:11:50,041 Speaker 1: I was so just regulated that day. Walked down the session, 268 00:11:50,081 --> 00:11:51,921 Speaker 1: We're like, wow, that was amazing. I had to unpack 269 00:11:51,961 --> 00:11:54,081 Speaker 1: my whole childhood and my whole relationship with Steve, and 270 00:11:54,081 --> 00:11:57,121 Speaker 1: different things were coming up for me and different events 271 00:11:57,161 --> 00:12:01,881 Speaker 1: over the years that I thought I had processed and 272 00:12:01,921 --> 00:12:04,441 Speaker 1: I clearly haven't fully processed it. But yeah, for that 273 00:12:04,481 --> 00:12:06,441 Speaker 1: whole day is it's just so dysregulated. But then at 274 00:12:06,481 --> 00:12:09,001 Speaker 1: the end, I was like, Okay, this is part of 275 00:12:09,001 --> 00:12:11,441 Speaker 1: the shedding, like shedding these old belief systems that are 276 00:12:11,481 --> 00:12:14,121 Speaker 1: still there, these old wounds that are still there that 277 00:12:14,201 --> 00:12:17,281 Speaker 1: I try to logically move my way through. Yeah, and 278 00:12:17,321 --> 00:12:19,961 Speaker 1: I feel scared and also really excited that I've got 279 00:12:19,961 --> 00:12:22,681 Speaker 1: this new support system that can help me navigate this 280 00:12:22,721 --> 00:12:26,201 Speaker 1: next chapter. So if you are feeling lost, stuck or alone, 281 00:12:26,201 --> 00:12:28,121 Speaker 1: like just once again we always talk about this, but 282 00:12:28,161 --> 00:12:29,801 Speaker 1: even a rise inside like you don't have to do 283 00:12:29,841 --> 00:12:32,761 Speaker 1: it alone. Yeah, sometimes we're not equipped with the right 284 00:12:32,801 --> 00:12:34,841 Speaker 1: tools or the right knowledge or wisdom to help us 285 00:12:35,121 --> 00:12:36,961 Speaker 1: through a chapter. And that's when you can reach out 286 00:12:37,001 --> 00:12:39,481 Speaker 1: to help for a coach or a counselor or just 287 00:12:39,561 --> 00:12:41,801 Speaker 1: the right women like someone just to help guide you, 288 00:12:41,881 --> 00:12:43,561 Speaker 1: or not even guide you. Sometimes you just need to 289 00:12:43,641 --> 00:12:47,201 Speaker 1: stabilizer of support to get's got this, Yes, push forward, Yeah, 290 00:12:47,241 --> 00:12:49,361 Speaker 1: you can do this. I believe in you, and having 291 00:12:49,361 --> 00:12:51,161 Speaker 1: that just makes the world of difference. It does. 292 00:12:51,401 --> 00:12:55,281 Speaker 2: Even like for us, even if we don't give advice, 293 00:12:55,361 --> 00:12:57,801 Speaker 2: it's like we ask questions yes, and then it's like, oh, 294 00:12:57,801 --> 00:12:59,641 Speaker 2: maybe they offer some support where it's like, oh, but 295 00:12:59,681 --> 00:13:01,281 Speaker 2: you know what, I remember a couple of weeks ago, 296 00:13:01,321 --> 00:13:03,121 Speaker 2: you said this to me and that felt really important 297 00:13:03,121 --> 00:13:04,561 Speaker 2: to you. Does that still feel true to you now? 298 00:13:04,801 --> 00:13:06,921 Speaker 2: And that kind of almost helps you make a decision. 299 00:13:07,201 --> 00:13:08,961 Speaker 1: You get clarity, Yeah, without like. 300 00:13:08,961 --> 00:13:11,841 Speaker 2: Spiraling in your head and you being the only person 301 00:13:11,881 --> 00:13:13,601 Speaker 2: who's kind of making that decision. 302 00:13:13,841 --> 00:13:16,921 Speaker 1: Yeah. And also when you're disregulated, you can't think clear, 303 00:13:16,921 --> 00:13:18,681 Speaker 1: and that's why we always you'll hear us bang on 304 00:13:18,721 --> 00:13:20,161 Speaker 1: about it, probably for as long as you listen to 305 00:13:20,201 --> 00:13:23,201 Speaker 1: this picture. But your nervous system regulation work is so 306 00:13:23,281 --> 00:13:25,041 Speaker 1: important because when you're all in your head and your 307 00:13:25,041 --> 00:13:27,081 Speaker 1: body's dysregulating, and you feel sick and anxious and you're 308 00:13:27,121 --> 00:13:29,401 Speaker 1: sweating in your like you can't breathe, how can you 309 00:13:29,441 --> 00:13:31,441 Speaker 1: make a decision that's right. Yeah, don't even know what's 310 00:13:31,521 --> 00:13:33,881 Speaker 1: right because you're not allowing yourself to just slow down, 311 00:13:34,041 --> 00:13:36,201 Speaker 1: check in and just like ground for a second to 312 00:13:36,601 --> 00:13:37,481 Speaker 1: find that clarity. 313 00:13:38,201 --> 00:13:41,241 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And this was me last Friday, I said this 314 00:13:41,281 --> 00:13:43,201 Speaker 2: to you. I went to Soak, which is just like 315 00:13:43,241 --> 00:13:46,121 Speaker 2: a recovery center here on the Gold Coast, and I 316 00:13:46,161 --> 00:13:47,641 Speaker 2: was in the spars and stuff, and I was going 317 00:13:47,681 --> 00:13:50,801 Speaker 2: to go in the cold plunge, but I stopped myself 318 00:13:50,841 --> 00:13:52,521 Speaker 2: because I knew that if I'd gone into that, I 319 00:13:52,521 --> 00:13:54,841 Speaker 2: would have sent myself into more dysregulation. So I could 320 00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:56,961 Speaker 2: already feel it in my body. And then I ended 321 00:13:57,041 --> 00:13:58,721 Speaker 2: up going to the spa, and then I went to 322 00:13:58,761 --> 00:14:00,961 Speaker 2: the steam room, which I don't normally do. Once I 323 00:14:00,961 --> 00:14:03,201 Speaker 2: got out of the steam room, I could feel the 324 00:14:03,281 --> 00:14:06,681 Speaker 2: dysregulation in my chest. It was like brewing all through 325 00:14:06,721 --> 00:14:09,161 Speaker 2: my chest, all up my throat and like my esophagus 326 00:14:09,241 --> 00:14:11,441 Speaker 2: is what it felt like. And I just remember feeling 327 00:14:11,441 --> 00:14:13,481 Speaker 2: like that panicky feeling of like a panic attack. And 328 00:14:13,521 --> 00:14:15,721 Speaker 2: I have not had that at least two years, Like 329 00:14:15,761 --> 00:14:18,841 Speaker 2: it's been so long since I've had that. It required 330 00:14:19,641 --> 00:14:22,241 Speaker 2: me doubling down in those moments of my tool belt, 331 00:14:22,521 --> 00:14:25,081 Speaker 2: really honing in on like going to bed earlier, getting 332 00:14:25,161 --> 00:14:28,161 Speaker 2: enough sleep, getting enough rest, and like having my alone time, 333 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:31,761 Speaker 2: which I really recoup both with people and also by myself. 334 00:14:32,201 --> 00:14:34,081 Speaker 2: And it was just like giving myself those things in 335 00:14:34,081 --> 00:14:36,921 Speaker 2: that moment of like no phone, no this, yeah, and 336 00:14:37,041 --> 00:14:39,161 Speaker 2: really like supporting myself in that moment. 337 00:14:39,641 --> 00:14:39,921 Speaker 1: Yeah. 338 00:14:39,961 --> 00:14:42,801 Speaker 2: But you know what else is really interesting in this 339 00:14:42,881 --> 00:14:46,401 Speaker 2: time of shedding, if you're going through just life in general, 340 00:14:46,681 --> 00:14:49,721 Speaker 2: there's also discomfort when you're growing. Oh and we talk 341 00:14:49,761 --> 00:14:51,881 Speaker 2: about this all the time. We did normalize that home, 342 00:14:52,081 --> 00:14:55,001 Speaker 2: not even just change, like change in itself is uncomfortable, 343 00:14:55,001 --> 00:14:57,561 Speaker 2: whether it heard or bad. And I really felt that 344 00:14:57,641 --> 00:14:59,841 Speaker 2: coming into this new year. A lot of the discomfort 345 00:14:59,881 --> 00:15:02,281 Speaker 2: I felt in my chest, especially is this is what 346 00:15:02,281 --> 00:15:04,721 Speaker 2: it feels like. It feels like stretching my capacity to 347 00:15:04,761 --> 00:15:09,081 Speaker 2: hold more, more work, more roles, more responsibility, more money, 348 00:15:09,081 --> 00:15:12,401 Speaker 2: more this, you know, just like really stretching my capacity 349 00:15:12,481 --> 00:15:16,801 Speaker 2: and through changing your habits, becoming somebody that you're proud of, 350 00:15:17,161 --> 00:15:19,041 Speaker 2: you know, stepping into a role that you haven't yet 351 00:15:19,041 --> 00:15:19,921 Speaker 2: stepped into before. 352 00:15:20,521 --> 00:15:21,481 Speaker 1: It is uncomfortable. 353 00:15:21,601 --> 00:15:25,281 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uncomfortable to stretch your capacity to hold more. 354 00:15:25,321 --> 00:15:27,761 Speaker 2: But again, this is why we bang on about nervous 355 00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:31,561 Speaker 2: system work, because through regulating yourself you learn how to 356 00:15:31,561 --> 00:15:34,041 Speaker 2: hold all of those things. And this season, I'm just 357 00:15:34,161 --> 00:15:37,321 Speaker 2: allowing it to be that, like I'm mentally preparing for 358 00:15:37,361 --> 00:15:39,481 Speaker 2: what's coming next, bigger things, bigger things. 359 00:15:39,521 --> 00:15:41,441 Speaker 1: And if you're listening to this, you probably have more 360 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:44,001 Speaker 1: that you want in your life, absolutely, more connection, more money, 361 00:15:44,081 --> 00:15:47,481 Speaker 1: more freedom, more growth in your work, more growth in anything. 362 00:15:47,561 --> 00:15:50,241 Speaker 1: But to get over to that next level, there is 363 00:15:50,281 --> 00:15:53,001 Speaker 1: that moment where you have to get really uncomfortable to 364 00:15:53,081 --> 00:15:55,281 Speaker 1: learn and expand and to hold more. So just know 365 00:15:55,361 --> 00:15:57,281 Speaker 1: that it's nothing's wrong that you're feeling like this, Like 366 00:15:57,281 --> 00:16:00,441 Speaker 1: we don't wrong ourselves for feeling like this. It's just like, okay, 367 00:16:00,721 --> 00:16:04,481 Speaker 1: being aware of it. We feel like this regulating ourselves, 368 00:16:04,481 --> 00:16:07,641 Speaker 1: breathing through through having conversations, reaching out for help, and 369 00:16:07,681 --> 00:16:10,281 Speaker 1: then making decisions from a really good place, not a 370 00:16:10,281 --> 00:16:11,121 Speaker 1: place out of fear. 371 00:16:11,361 --> 00:16:13,201 Speaker 2: Yeah. But this is also part of the reason why 372 00:16:13,241 --> 00:16:16,161 Speaker 2: we hired a business coach too, because you're like, okay, cool, 373 00:16:16,201 --> 00:16:18,641 Speaker 2: we need someone who can support us in this next 374 00:16:18,681 --> 00:16:21,481 Speaker 2: phase and this next phase that we want to create. Okay, cool, 375 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:22,801 Speaker 2: who's going to be able to hold us through that? 376 00:16:23,401 --> 00:16:25,001 Speaker 1: You know, hold our hand, We've got our hands. I 377 00:16:25,001 --> 00:16:25,641 Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing. 378 00:16:25,641 --> 00:16:28,201 Speaker 2: Well, we cry and I was kidding, no, but it's 379 00:16:28,201 --> 00:16:30,681 Speaker 2: like we're learning new skills, we're learning new things, how 380 00:16:30,681 --> 00:16:33,401 Speaker 2: to do things differently, a new area. 381 00:16:33,241 --> 00:16:35,401 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're both used to and even that it 382 00:16:35,441 --> 00:16:37,361 Speaker 1: was like the difference between doing one on one coaching 383 00:16:37,361 --> 00:16:38,801 Speaker 1: with her or a group and we were like, no, 384 00:16:38,841 --> 00:16:40,721 Speaker 1: we actually we're going to pay more to get one 385 00:16:40,761 --> 00:16:42,081 Speaker 1: on one because that's what we feel like we need 386 00:16:42,161 --> 00:16:42,481 Speaker 1: right now. 387 00:16:42,561 --> 00:16:43,681 Speaker 2: Ands on support right now. 388 00:16:43,721 --> 00:16:46,561 Speaker 1: So don't feel embarrassed, whether it's work or child wood 389 00:16:46,561 --> 00:16:48,201 Speaker 1: trauma or anything that you're going through. Like, if you 390 00:16:48,201 --> 00:16:50,081 Speaker 1: need support, you need support. You don't get a manual 391 00:16:50,081 --> 00:16:51,921 Speaker 1: on how to be a perfect everything. You're not a chef, 392 00:16:51,921 --> 00:16:54,121 Speaker 1: you're not a pt you're not a psychologist. Like that's 393 00:16:54,161 --> 00:16:55,841 Speaker 1: why you go to the experts to get the help 394 00:16:55,881 --> 00:16:57,521 Speaker 1: that you need. Yeah, and you have no shame in that. 395 00:16:57,561 --> 00:16:58,921 Speaker 2: And you know, it's not to say like you can't 396 00:16:58,921 --> 00:17:00,601 Speaker 2: get there, because I believe that you would. But it's like, 397 00:17:00,641 --> 00:17:02,441 Speaker 2: if you can condense the time and how quickly it 398 00:17:02,441 --> 00:17:03,321 Speaker 2: takes you to get there. 399 00:17:03,481 --> 00:17:06,281 Speaker 1: You're not make it not as painful either. 400 00:17:06,561 --> 00:17:09,001 Speaker 2: And also that part not feeling so alone in the gym, yes, 401 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:11,401 Speaker 2: because a lot of the times we feel super isolated 402 00:17:11,481 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: in what we're going through unless you have a good 403 00:17:13,321 --> 00:17:15,921 Speaker 2: support system around you. And a lot of the times 404 00:17:16,001 --> 00:17:18,081 Speaker 2: people don't have that level of support in the way 405 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,201 Speaker 2: that they crave to have it. So if you find 406 00:17:20,241 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: those environments, put yourself in it, because it will be 407 00:17:22,761 --> 00:17:26,121 Speaker 2: the difference between you know, you taking another three years 408 00:17:26,201 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: to get there or six months to get there, you know, 409 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,041 Speaker 2: and also feeling like, oh my gosh, I'm actually not 410 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,041 Speaker 2: a loan on this journey. 411 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,121 Speaker 1: And it's easy to hide when you're by yourself. Oh 412 00:17:34,201 --> 00:17:38,001 Speaker 1: my god, it this business coach, I'm like already fearing that. 413 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,601 Speaker 1: You know, my old story is coming out that you're dumb. 414 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,441 Speaker 1: You won't understand it, Like there'ud be a waste of time, 415 00:17:41,521 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: waste of money. Like if I was by myself, I 416 00:17:43,721 --> 00:17:46,121 Speaker 1: would just avoid learning all of this because I'm like, well, 417 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:47,761 Speaker 1: I can't do it. I'm too dumb. Ora is with her. 418 00:17:47,801 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, she's not going to sit there and have 419 00:17:49,321 --> 00:17:51,201 Speaker 1: me say I'm too dumb. I'm just gonna say, shut 420 00:17:51,201 --> 00:17:53,041 Speaker 1: the fuck up. Are you doing this? Yeah, I'm going 421 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: to sit here until you understand it. Yeah, do this together. Yeah, 422 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: that's what you paid me for. Yeah. So I'm like 423 00:17:57,201 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: I can't hide. 424 00:17:58,001 --> 00:17:59,321 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to be like we're going to 425 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:00,561 Speaker 2: rewrite that story. Yeah. 426 00:18:01,041 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: My counseling session last week with the psychologist, she's like, 427 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,681 Speaker 1: you look like you need to cry, look like you're 428 00:18:05,681 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: holding it back to you need to cry. And I 429 00:18:07,201 --> 00:18:11,481 Speaker 1: was like, but by myself, yeah, I avoid it. You'll distract. 430 00:18:11,481 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: I'll go eachalk, I play with my kids, or get 431 00:18:13,721 --> 00:18:16,641 Speaker 1: on my phone, I'll work big and it just all 432 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,801 Speaker 1: comes bottling up. And now, Okay, you wonder why you 433 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,001 Speaker 1: feeling anxious? Yeah, holding all that last year. No, we're 434 00:18:22,041 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: gonna go there. Yeah, but I need to do that 435 00:18:24,441 --> 00:18:26,241 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say that. I'm really struggling to 436 00:18:26,241 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: do that on my own. So I hide the support 437 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,001 Speaker 1: that I need in the right areas that I need, 438 00:18:30,041 --> 00:18:32,201 Speaker 1: and I believe that will put me in a really 439 00:18:32,201 --> 00:18:35,001 Speaker 1: different position and mindset this time next year. 440 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: And how easy is it when you're going through something 441 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: to isolate and pull away oh people who are uses 442 00:18:39,721 --> 00:18:41,201 Speaker 2: because you're like, well, I don't want to be seen 443 00:18:41,201 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: in this. And there's also a story I do this 444 00:18:42,961 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: sometimes where I'm like, I don't want to bring the 445 00:18:45,281 --> 00:18:46,161 Speaker 2: energy of the group down. 446 00:18:46,241 --> 00:18:49,241 Speaker 1: Ye bring No, I'm in a really low vibe. I 447 00:18:49,281 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: don't know if you want to be Yeah, do you? 448 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,801 Speaker 2: Are you sure you want to walk with me today? 449 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,681 Speaker 1: And like love and the goods? So I'm gonna bring 450 00:18:53,721 --> 00:18:55,681 Speaker 1: up the vibes yes literally, or you can just sit 451 00:18:55,721 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: in that and I'll hold you in it. 452 00:18:56,761 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: Yes. It's like, oh you've got twenty, I've got eighty, yeah, 453 00:18:59,561 --> 00:19:02,561 Speaker 2: ninety literally yeah. So it's just one of those things. 454 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,521 Speaker 2: It's so cheeky, the way that we keep ourselves where 455 00:19:06,561 --> 00:19:09,481 Speaker 2: we are. Yes, you know, because when we talk about 456 00:19:09,481 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: all of this, having that person or that environment or 457 00:19:12,441 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: that group or some space that you can go to 458 00:19:14,281 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: that is the safe container. Yeah, you don't have to 459 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,921 Speaker 2: be the strong one. You can be the person who 460 00:19:18,961 --> 00:19:20,841 Speaker 2: crumbles in that space and go, oh my god, I'm 461 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,681 Speaker 2: actually allowed to ask for help in this way man, 462 00:19:22,721 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: And I think that is such a powerful thing. 463 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: It's that itself, like it's twenty twenty six. But you 464 00:19:26,961 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: do not need to shame ourselves, to shame anyone putting 465 00:19:29,681 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: their hand up and saying I need help back and 466 00:19:31,281 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: like my mom's day, for sure, like you were looked 467 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,281 Speaker 1: at differently if you've got a counselor or you needed help, 468 00:19:36,321 --> 00:19:39,681 Speaker 1: like yeah, tough enough, or like you're broken. 469 00:19:39,481 --> 00:19:40,361 Speaker 2: Have a cup of concrete. 470 00:19:40,481 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah literally, Whereas now like no, let's normalize asking for 471 00:19:43,961 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: help when we need it. 472 00:19:44,681 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: That's what people are there for. Something that was super 473 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,041 Speaker 2: powerful for us. We've both done this to each other. 474 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,401 Speaker 2: There was times where we both were really going through 475 00:19:51,441 --> 00:19:54,041 Speaker 2: it last year and we both just said to each other, 476 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: maybe you can crumble here. Yeah, and both of us 477 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:57,561 Speaker 2: broke down. 478 00:19:59,761 --> 00:20:01,481 Speaker 1: Oh my godness, I think mom's on a walk and 479 00:20:01,521 --> 00:20:04,521 Speaker 1: everyone's looking at me as a walk. I'm like, you 480 00:20:04,521 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: don't have to be strong today, and Okay, I'm not 481 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,561 Speaker 1: going to be strong, but like. 482 00:20:09,681 --> 00:20:12,281 Speaker 2: Having that permission to not have to be the strong 483 00:20:12,321 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: one allows you to just have your full experience. And like, 484 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,441 Speaker 2: I really do believe that in this period of discomfort, 485 00:20:17,521 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: for whatever it is that you're experiencing it with, you 486 00:20:20,321 --> 00:20:22,481 Speaker 2: have to be willing to allow yourself to feel through 487 00:20:22,481 --> 00:20:23,721 Speaker 2: it and not run away from it. 488 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,521 Speaker 1: Definitely, And how good do you feel after a good cry? Oh? 489 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,801 Speaker 1: Sometimes the next day I'm like, you know, has really 490 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: upset your stay? I actually feel a lot better after 491 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: just talking about it. It had a huge release, Like 492 00:20:32,761 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: it's still there, but I feel like because it's stored energy, 493 00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:38,241 Speaker 1: so crying releases it and moves through the energy. It's 494 00:20:38,241 --> 00:20:40,481 Speaker 1: a beautiful way to get it out. And it doesn't 495 00:20:40,521 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: mean your problems go away, but it means you're clearer 496 00:20:42,681 --> 00:20:46,561 Speaker 1: to actually move through them rather just sitting inspiringly into 497 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,521 Speaker 1: a deep, dark hole that's even harder to climb out. 498 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,521 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also as well, if you're going through this 499 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: season like what we are, where things are feeling heavier 500 00:20:54,281 --> 00:20:57,801 Speaker 2: or just harder than normal, it's also a good opportunity 501 00:20:57,801 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: for you to look at what you're doing in your 502 00:20:59,201 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: life and like subtracting a few things yeah. You know, 503 00:21:01,521 --> 00:21:03,801 Speaker 2: like if you're you're super active and like right now 504 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: doesn't feel good to do that and you're feeling like 505 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: it's draining more than anything, just pull back on like 506 00:21:08,201 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: one or two things, give yourself that time and space 507 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,761 Speaker 2: to like kind of refill your cup again and then go, okay, 508 00:21:13,961 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: me implement that back in. I find for me that 509 00:21:16,281 --> 00:21:20,041 Speaker 2: really helps, Like if I'm really really stretched, I'll be like, Okay, 510 00:21:20,201 --> 00:21:23,001 Speaker 2: I'm not watching any TV series, I'm not doing this, So. 511 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,321 Speaker 1: No to that great group yes or something. 512 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:28,041 Speaker 2: I literally said no to a group event on Saturday 513 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,041 Speaker 2: because I was just like, I have a huge week 514 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,921 Speaker 2: coming up, I'm already dysregulated, and I think that would 515 00:21:32,921 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: send me over the edge definitely. So I was like 516 00:21:34,801 --> 00:21:36,881 Speaker 2: thank you, but also no, thank you, Like right now 517 00:21:36,921 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: I need to choose myself. 518 00:21:38,041 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: It can be hard to say no because I can 519 00:21:39,281 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: invite it to a dinner this week as well, and 520 00:21:40,681 --> 00:21:43,321 Speaker 1: I was like, I so want to say yes, I 521 00:21:43,321 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: have massive pomo so they invited me, but with my 522 00:21:46,241 --> 00:21:48,521 Speaker 1: week ahead, I just I can't. I can't have any 523 00:21:48,561 --> 00:21:50,521 Speaker 1: extra energy out because I actually have to get through 524 00:21:50,561 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: each day and there's such big days. Having those boundaries 525 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: as well, or to protect your energy. 526 00:21:54,761 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, just paying attention to what you need. You end 527 00:21:57,281 --> 00:21:58,961 Speaker 2: up getting really good at it. When you start paying 528 00:21:58,961 --> 00:22:01,841 Speaker 2: attention to okay cool, my energy feels it either really 529 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,801 Speaker 2: good right now I'm really drained, and then going okay cool. 530 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: How can I support myself in this moment? 531 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we wanted to bring it into because I 532 00:22:08,921 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: know I get a lot of DMS and acually I 533 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: don't feel like I portray this, but maybe in some 534 00:22:12,481 --> 00:22:14,161 Speaker 1: level I do. But a lot of mom's like, how 535 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: do you do it? Or you look like you do 536 00:22:15,441 --> 00:22:17,321 Speaker 1: it with such ease? And I want to talk about 537 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,041 Speaker 1: this today because it's not easy, Like even I've been 538 00:22:20,041 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: talking to Tiana about it, and I cried to Steve 539 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:27,001 Speaker 1: the other night. My kids are fighting like cats and dogs. 540 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: Like. 541 00:22:27,561 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: There was one cute moment that I videoed. Of course, 542 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: I videoed it a Tali the other day and everyone's like, 543 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, your kids get along so well, and 544 00:22:33,201 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, it's logan for you. 545 00:22:36,241 --> 00:22:39,561 Speaker 1: This was like a rare occurrency. That's why I videoed it. 546 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,201 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, do people think that motherhood 547 00:22:42,281 --> 00:22:45,241 Speaker 1: is just easy for me? And it's not. I cried 548 00:22:45,281 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: to Steve the other night because I was already having 549 00:22:47,921 --> 00:22:50,801 Speaker 1: a hard day and it was nine weeks of holidays 550 00:22:51,201 --> 00:22:53,041 Speaker 1: and any went away. We don't have much support, so 551 00:22:53,041 --> 00:22:54,761 Speaker 1: Steve and I would tag Tom because all our businesses 552 00:22:54,801 --> 00:22:57,361 Speaker 1: continue running. Yeah, if anything over the Christmas holidays, it's 553 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,521 Speaker 1: ten times harder because all our staff for on holidays, 554 00:22:59,721 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: so we have to pick up so much more extra 555 00:23:01,521 --> 00:23:03,521 Speaker 1: work and make sure everything's running. And it's a really 556 00:23:03,961 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: tough time whilst trying to be a really present parent. 557 00:23:07,321 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: It was a lot so but the end of the 558 00:23:08,481 --> 00:23:11,001 Speaker 1: nine weeks, I just felt very tapped out. Like I 559 00:23:11,001 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: don't normally say this, but I was very ready for 560 00:23:12,801 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: Taj to go back to school because the two of 561 00:23:15,241 --> 00:23:17,201 Speaker 1: them together. I cried at the end of one day 562 00:23:17,201 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: and I just said to Steve like I feel like 563 00:23:18,801 --> 00:23:21,521 Speaker 1: I'm just not the fun mum that I know I am, 564 00:23:21,561 --> 00:23:24,441 Speaker 1: because I'm putting up fires all day. Yeah. And we're 565 00:23:24,441 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: in the bedroom and Steve called Taj in and it 566 00:23:26,761 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: was a really beautiful conversation. Steve was trying to explain 567 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:31,161 Speaker 1: to Taj how it is being a parent. I said 568 00:23:31,201 --> 00:23:33,561 Speaker 1: to him, I don't expect you to understand, but I 569 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: want to be a fun mum. I want to be 570 00:23:35,801 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: playing with you guys and playing hide and seek and 571 00:23:38,241 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: taking you to do a cool fun stuff. When you 572 00:23:40,001 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: are antagonizing your sister a whole time and you're fighting 573 00:23:43,001 --> 00:23:46,161 Speaker 1: over something like having the same toy all day every day, 574 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,321 Speaker 1: it's really really exhausting. And he was really cute, Taj, 575 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,881 Speaker 1: just like, you are a really fun mum, and said, 576 00:23:50,961 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: I can be, but not when I'm putting out fires 577 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,801 Speaker 1: all day and I'm really really over stimulated. And I 578 00:23:55,801 --> 00:23:58,001 Speaker 1: don't know why he gets enjoyment out of antagonizing Tyler, 579 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,681 Speaker 1: Like you can see this. 580 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,561 Speaker 2: Little smirking of it. Hey just shadows elf. 581 00:24:01,761 --> 00:24:04,041 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were trying to understand why, and I said, 582 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: even if you don't understand, like I'm just telling you, 583 00:24:05,921 --> 00:24:07,561 Speaker 1: I'm finding it really hard right now. And he gave 584 00:24:07,561 --> 00:24:09,281 Speaker 1: me a big cuddle and he's like, you're the best mum, 585 00:24:09,281 --> 00:24:11,481 Speaker 1: and I love you, and I'll try and not fight 586 00:24:11,681 --> 00:24:14,041 Speaker 1: Tylers so much. But I wanted to talk about that 587 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,481 Speaker 1: honestly and openly because I don't want any parent or 588 00:24:16,521 --> 00:24:18,561 Speaker 1: anyone to think that I'm just like cruising through life, 589 00:24:18,561 --> 00:24:20,721 Speaker 1: because you just know how it is. Sometimes it's fucking 590 00:24:20,761 --> 00:24:23,041 Speaker 1: hard when you've got kids and you're going through your 591 00:24:23,041 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: own personal stuff and you're trying to run a business 592 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: and you're trying to stay regulated, plus washing. 593 00:24:27,521 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: And fires and everything else. 594 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,841 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Like I feel like I've got three 595 00:24:30,921 --> 00:24:32,721 Speaker 1: hundred balls juggling in the air and they're all just 596 00:24:32,761 --> 00:24:35,641 Speaker 1: coming down crashing at the moment. Like it's not easy, 597 00:24:35,921 --> 00:24:37,481 Speaker 1: but all we can do is the best that we 598 00:24:37,521 --> 00:24:40,321 Speaker 1: can reach out for support, as much support as you need, 599 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,401 Speaker 1: and one step at a time. Yeah, not every day 600 00:24:43,481 --> 00:24:45,481 Speaker 1: is going to be great, but just be kind to 601 00:24:45,481 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: yourself in that process. That's tough. So if you're a 602 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: parent out there and you're feeling overwhelmed, just know that, 603 00:24:50,481 --> 00:24:52,241 Speaker 1: like many of us are feeling like that. And thank 604 00:24:52,281 --> 00:24:55,441 Speaker 1: god school's back. Thank god schools back. 605 00:24:57,761 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: Thanks you for sharing that, babe. 606 00:24:58,921 --> 00:25:01,561 Speaker 1: You're welcome. So that was our intengamous sharing, just a 607 00:25:01,561 --> 00:25:05,001 Speaker 1: really honest, raw, real talk about our little life update. 608 00:25:05,321 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: And if you haven't heard of the snake shedding, then 609 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,281 Speaker 1: definitely look into it more because it makes a lot 610 00:25:09,321 --> 00:25:11,561 Speaker 1: of sense for how we're all feeling. Even things like 611 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: cleaning out your closet they say, old clothes, old shoe, 612 00:25:14,481 --> 00:25:17,481 Speaker 1: like anything you're not using. It definitely makes you feel 613 00:25:17,481 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: more cluttered in your environment, which makes your mind feel 614 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,561 Speaker 1: more cluttered. Like anything that's not serving you get rid of. Yeah, 615 00:25:22,681 --> 00:25:24,401 Speaker 1: so we're like make a list tonight, lay in bed 616 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: and like take some big breasths and just write down 617 00:25:26,441 --> 00:25:29,161 Speaker 1: everything you feel is not filling a line without things 618 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,041 Speaker 1: in your work, your friendships, your relationship, a behavior, your clothes, 619 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: your shoes, your pantsry, like whatever it is, like clean 620 00:25:36,441 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: it out. 621 00:25:36,761 --> 00:25:39,001 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like no, something that we actually both do is 622 00:25:39,041 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 2: like a routinely clean out. O. We do at least 623 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,521 Speaker 2: at least every three months for me every six months. 624 00:25:44,561 --> 00:25:46,481 Speaker 2: And I just find it's just that like beautiful recent 625 00:25:46,521 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: thing because it's like clear mind, clear space in your 626 00:25:48,921 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: car too. It really does that, Oh getting a car everything. Yeah, 627 00:25:52,961 --> 00:25:54,281 Speaker 2: I'm even gonna buy some fresh sheets. 628 00:25:54,561 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: Oh I love it. Thanks for joining us, guys. We 629 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: hope this resonate or just even if it just makes 630 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,281 Speaker 1: you not feel so alone or not so crazy, like 631 00:26:02,281 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: say with the parenting thing, if you're feeling like you're 632 00:26:04,001 --> 00:26:06,001 Speaker 1: snapping your kids all the time. There's so many of 633 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: us that are feeling like that. And it's just a 634 00:26:07,521 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: heavier season right now and we all go through it. 635 00:26:10,201 --> 00:26:12,321 Speaker 1: Just do the best that you can. We're right there 636 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: with you. 637 00:26:12,721 --> 00:26:15,041 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's just a season. Yes, doesn't 638 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: last forever, last forever, but there's obviously something we have 639 00:26:17,681 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: to learn in this period, and then on the other 640 00:26:19,521 --> 00:26:20,881 Speaker 2: side of it, we'll understand why. 641 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: Definitely, thanks for joining us, guys. We'll see you next Monday. 642 00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:26,081 Speaker 1: Bye bye.