WEBVTT - Do not pass go, do not collect $200

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you could get a really great stay-at-home parent salary,

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<v Speaker 1>money's always going to be out of line and the

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<v Speaker 1>world is literally ruled by money. So that was my

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming feeling. I was like, it's one thing for us

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<v Speaker 1>to value care work properly emotionally.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you've got to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Be financial. Like it's never going to be fucking valued

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<v Speaker 3>as financially as it should be.

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<v Speaker 4>This podcast was recorded on the lands of the Boon

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<v Speaker 4>Wurrung people of the Kulin Nation, the land on which

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<v Speaker 4>we're lucky enough to raise our sons and daughters. Always

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<v Speaker 4>was and always will be Aboriginal land.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to Ready or Not, the show where

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<v Speaker 1>two mums try to figure out how to make work work.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Lou. And I'm Loz.

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<v Speaker 1>And coming up on today's show, I am on the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong production schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't do it that way. Do it my way.

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<v Speaker 1>I've spoken a lot, Loz, on this show about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that sometimes weaponised incompetence, which is someone pretending they

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<v Speaker 1>can't do something, and maternal gatekeeping, which is more like, no, no, no, sweetie,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing it the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be done my way. It's all part

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<v Speaker 3>of the same problem.

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<v Speaker 1>When we look at the standard, we expect a partner,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly secondary caregivers, to do things too within a household

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<v Speaker 1>and with our kids. So today I'm going to provide

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<v Speaker 1>you with a whole lot of examples, some from my

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<v Speaker 1>world and some from our communities, of partners not doing

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<v Speaker 1>things the way that the primary carer wants them done

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<v Speaker 1>and whether this person deserves to go to jail for

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<v Speaker 1>that or if it's play on and we all need

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<v Speaker 1>to like just fucking not worry about that thing or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. What do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. As you know, I love games. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is my time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually too tired and uninspired at this time of

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<v Speaker 1>year to do anything other than listicle reactionary content.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So expect that from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Stunning. What's been happening with you? Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I have two opposing things that have been going on

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment. I have had a really weird woo-woo week,

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<v Speaker 4>which doesn't usually happen for me, but I know I

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<v Speaker 4>say this a bit. I do feel like the older

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<v Speaker 4>I get, the more spiritual I get.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm honestly surprised you aren't in a low disposal.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I am surprisingly far more woo-woo than people would ever expect.

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<v Speaker 2>It's strange. Like I do some weird shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what? Can you give us an example quickly?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I like to charge my crystals under the

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<v Speaker 4>moonlight and set my tension.

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<v Speaker 2>I fucking love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you joking?

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<v Speaker 2>I wash them to clear any energy. Yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 2>this shit.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that you're doing that and I'm not is.

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<v Speaker 4>When you blow cinnamon at your doorway at the start

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<v Speaker 4>of a month, it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you actually do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you're taking the piss at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm actually not.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, yeah, this is so off-brand.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love like birth charts, star signs.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really into it. I don't necessarily believe it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just find sometimes I like the idea of hope.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 3>That's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like believing in something that isn't necessarily tangible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think it gives me hope if I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a rut.

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<v Speaker 3>What star sign are you just quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're not a star signer, so there's no point

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<v Speaker 2>in this.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I am a star signer, but only for the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that are relevant to the people within my house.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very obvious.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that's your birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a Sagittarian.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I was about to guess that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm a very quintessential in line with my

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<v Speaker 2>star sign. I actually don't know much about Sagis. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're the best.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to have to do it. Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Star sign episodes. I would love that. I would love

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<v Speaker 3>to get someone to come in. Look at ours, our partners,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're the same. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the same birthday. And then we'll look at our

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<v Speaker 1>kids too. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it. Oh, God, yeah. Okay, sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking you off. Okay, so a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 4>This week these three things have happened to me in

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<v Speaker 4>no sequential order.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, I had a school mum over.

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<v Speaker 4>Our kids had a play and she is also a

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<v Speaker 4>bit like, it's so weird. Sometimes I say things and

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<v Speaker 4>they happen. This is the conversation that we had in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning. I'm like, I don't mean to be a

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<v Speaker 4>woo-woo and freak you out.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know each other that much.

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<v Speaker 4>But I have this strange thing that it happens to

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<v Speaker 4>me too, like super weird.

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<v Speaker 3>You're both manifestive. Right?

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not even manifesting. It's like strange.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So weird.

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<v Speaker 4>She asked me if I had a set of shoes

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<v Speaker 4>for this school play because it was split by surnames

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<v Speaker 4>and our kids are top and tail.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So you could have borrowed from each other. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking Blundstones. I was like, I do have a pair.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the pair out. She's like, oh, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be too small for her son. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, okay. She's like, I might just go to

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<v Speaker 2>the op shop. And she's like, I bet you I'll

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<v Speaker 2>find some. She sent me a photo.

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<v Speaker 3>No joke.

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<v Speaker 4>15 minutes later, brand new Blundstones shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>They had not a mark on them. $ 6.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucking oath.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, come on, guys. It's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>That's weird.

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<v Speaker 4>The next day, Zave has been talking all the time

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<v Speaker 4>about wanting an orange bike for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>All the time. Orange specifically.

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<v Speaker 3>Orange.

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<v Speaker 2>He really wants orange.

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<v Speaker 4>When he's like, for Christmas at Torquay, I've got my

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<v Speaker 4>orange bike. He's like, we got off hard road.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so gross. I got a big dinosaur head on it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my God.

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot hate it. But it doesn't have training wheels.

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<v Speaker 4>And we thought to ourselves, we'll just grab it. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>leave it at the caravan. You know, hopefully he's not

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<v Speaker 4>using training wheels.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The next time walking down the street, what is in

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<v Speaker 4>the front window at the Salvos? Brand spanking new.

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<v Speaker 2>Bike, $ 54 or some strange price like that. Definitely under 60,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was like an odd number.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In the front window built with training wheels on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Never been ridden.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it orange?

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<v Speaker 2>It's orange.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets better. I was sitting with a girlfriend of

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<v Speaker 2>mine who you know really well, the other day, Karina.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>We were having a coffee with Gus and her daughter Zoe,

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<v Speaker 4>both babies. This lady approached us and said, girls.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so beautiful. You know, sometimes you get that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>How cute.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, I have to give you something. I have

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<v Speaker 2>this very small collection of four-leaf clovers.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Very small.

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<v Speaker 4>And I give it to people, particularly babies, if I

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<v Speaker 4>ever see them that I feel like will bring luck

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<v Speaker 4>or that like they're a lucky baby or that luck

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be bestowed upon you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like feeling woo-woo. Woo-woo.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we sat there and she goes, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're gone by the time I get back, don't

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<v Speaker 4>worry about it. And I thought, oh, she'll never come back.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Karina and I were both like, oh, how cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing of it.

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<v Speaker 4>She came back five minutes later and handed us both

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<v Speaker 4>like this pressed four-leaf clover.

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<v Speaker 3>You should frame that.

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<v Speaker 2>I did frame it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God, you've already done it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have framed it.

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<v Speaker 3>That is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>But tell me that's not strange.

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<v Speaker 3>That's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird.

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<v Speaker 3>So where was she going to get this four-leaf clover from?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Back home? Like I think she must have. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know. Maybe she had it in her handbag. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even sure. It's the whole thing was so strange.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 2>So weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like there's some like.

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<v Speaker 4>Positive energy in general at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Things are happening. Spring has sprung.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it is, but I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to let anybody else in this bit know that some

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<v Speaker 4>strange things are happening to me.

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<v Speaker 1>For people that are weird about woo-wooism or, like, anti-woo-woo rhetoric,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you think we all got here?

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's bizarre.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, have a bit of hope and, like, embrace magic. Yes. Because, like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is pretty wild that you and I are here

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<v Speaker 3>today on this earth. It's weird. It's weird. So embrace it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. Great story.

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<v Speaker 2>One other thing. I'm going to New York soon. I

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<v Speaker 2>have decided that I would really love to meet you

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen, so please reach out. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>you already have, which is, like, so weird and also

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<v Speaker 2>so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you, like, what, you want to hang out with?

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<v Speaker 4>So if you know of anywhere in New York to go,

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to catch up for coffee, I might

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<v Speaker 4>do a small meet-up. There's probably going to be, like,

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<v Speaker 4>four of us there.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>The three people that have reached out and me already.

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<v Speaker 4>But if there's any more of you... Let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to catch up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so exciting. I cannot wait to see a photo

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<v Speaker 3>of you all catching up. Oh, it'll be exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be like me and like, they'll be like, I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't make it.

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<v Speaker 3>My kids will see.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be like me and one other.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird. Honestly, you've got to start somewhere. You could just

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<v Speaker 3>put up a selfie being like waiting for them to arrive.

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<v Speaker 2>I know how awkward.

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<v Speaker 3>If no one shows up and we'll just pretend. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, you and I have spoken about this, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't even need to get this off my chest, but

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to say it in case you ever come

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<v Speaker 4>across a similar situation, not you particularly, but anybody listening.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would be nervous too.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're me or if you're a listener or if

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<v Speaker 3>you're anyone?

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<v Speaker 2>No, if you're anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God, I'm so nervous.

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<v Speaker 4>Lou and I have a real pet peeve and I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to share it in case anybody resonates.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>There is nothing worse than when someone says to you,

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<v Speaker 4>she thinks this or we all think this.

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<v Speaker 1>Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Or he said this.

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<v Speaker 3>Love.

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<v Speaker 2>And you speak on someone else's behalf.

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<v Speaker 3>We were talking about this. It must have been off mic,

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<v Speaker 3>was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Did something happen in real life to make you say this? Yes. Interesting. Yeah. Because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we were saying like the idea. Not to me personally.

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<v Speaker 3>Not to you personally. I should say.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but it happened recently.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying to Loz, I can't remember if it

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<v Speaker 1>was on mic or not, but I was saying that

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers always said the worst trait is when someone

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<v Speaker 1>says like, we all think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you give someone the negative feedback. It's like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>just make it from you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. You don't speak on anyone else's behalf.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to know from you, the listener, if

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<v Speaker 4>you think that type of communication is acceptable when you've

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<v Speaker 4>seen it in action and how has it landed?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's giving group mentality bullying.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's almost what I'd call it now that I've

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<v Speaker 3>had a thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think it's the lowest of low.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>And that person's like, oh, great, everyone thinks this. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I feel like shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, anyone can say that. I could be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we all think.

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<v Speaker 3>Spoke to those. This person thinks.

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<v Speaker 4>My girlfriend said, my husband thinks, I would never do

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<v Speaker 4>it because the conversation that you have with one person

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<v Speaker 4>is exactly that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gross.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be that person.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God. Do I know about the conversation that

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<v Speaker 3>you had and I'm forgetting? Yes. I think I am

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<v Speaker 3>because that's what brought up this conversation. Yes. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>what was that? I've got the worst memory. Cannot wait

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<v Speaker 3>to find out off mic.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to everyone listening that wants to be in that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>And Lou, what's been happening with you?

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to give a.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Really Simple Skin Care. I've been using

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<v Speaker 1>QV for the kids and me. I've gone back to

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<v Speaker 1>absolute basics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And I'm really enjoying it. Affordable. Simple.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have a scent. It doesn't irritate your skin.

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<v Speaker 2>We used it a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>UV was a big brand for us when Gus was

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<v Speaker 4>really little. He actually still has eczema now. Would you

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<v Speaker 4>believe it? Sorry, I don't know if it's food related.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going down a whole track of that. If anyone

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<v Speaker 4>has any dietary tips, I think that's what I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>for now because I feel like I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it much tomato? I know I'm being annoying and, like, prescribing.

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<v Speaker 4>This sounds so bizarre and this could be completely incorrect.

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<v Speaker 4>Number one, he's allergic to egg, which is a fucking drainer.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like, he'll grow out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like– Can he grow out of it today?

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<v Speaker 2>It's, like, really annoying.

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<v Speaker 4>But he seems to really flare up when he has

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<v Speaker 4>citrus fruits. like interesting strawberry or orange are okay no

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<v Speaker 4>bueno because.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to often be tomato when i hear of

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<v Speaker 1>these oh this is probably the same acidity maybe yeah

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<v Speaker 1>acidic things i was like acidic vegetables it's bizarre tomato

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<v Speaker 1>i still can't wrap my head around it being a

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<v Speaker 1>fruit but it is so that's just a Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to like simplicity and to doing less and to spending

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<v Speaker 1>less on skincare. So that's from me. And now some

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<v Speaker 1>correspondence from Kathy. I loved this comment that I found

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<v Speaker 1>on Spotify. It was about our episode that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>went into the sort of myth of 50-50 parenting in

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<v Speaker 1>a world that is not even for men and women.

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<v Speaker 1>So particularly in mom, dad dynamics.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what she said.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on 50-50 through

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<v Speaker 1>the lens of a society or even just an individual home.

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<v Speaker 1>that truly believes that all work is valuable. I think

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<v Speaker 1>if we truly valued the work in the home, you

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<v Speaker 1>could achieve 50-50 in a scenario where one partner works

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<v Speaker 1>full-time and one partner stays home full-time. Does the work

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<v Speaker 1>need to be split to 2.5 days outside and 2.5

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<v Speaker 1>days inside each for it to be 50-50 if both

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<v Speaker 1>types of work are work and needed for the household?

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<v Speaker 1>Love to the ep.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was a really interesting point.

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<v Speaker 2>Thoughts?

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<v Speaker 1>Feelings?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm never going to know because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel like that's ever really truly going to happen, but

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with her sentiment on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the sentiment and it really made me think

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<v Speaker 3>in a different way.

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<v Speaker 1>The sad thing that I thought was until like money doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Rule the world, I don't unfortunately think.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be fully 50-50 because unless you could get

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<v Speaker 1>a really great stay-at-home parent salary... money's always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be out of line and the world is literally ruled

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<v Speaker 1>by money. So that was my overwhelming feeling. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one thing for us to value care work properly emotionally.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you've got to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Be financial. Like it's never going to be fucking valued

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<v Speaker 3>as financially as it should be, which is sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not financially valued at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. But even like. Well, not free.

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<v Speaker 2>It's obviously a load.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, unpaid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's probably my answer, Cathy.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the sentiment. I think it's a great conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But until the world is not ruled by money, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't see how it works, which is a really

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<v Speaker 1>grim answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not yet. Let's just put it that. Let's add

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<v Speaker 2>the yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit by bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit by bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it. Give me some good news on that note.

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<v Speaker 2>Good news.

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<v Speaker 4>EndoThrive has just launched Australia's first endometriosis-friendly workplace accreditation.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of this?

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<v Speaker 3>This is sick and no, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 4>Since it launched in February, it trains staff and accredits

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<v Speaker 4>workplaces to actually understand and support endometriosis. One in seven

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<v Speaker 4>women have it and diagnosis used to take six plus years.

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<v Speaker 4>Chopo was an early adopter, which is quite cool. New

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<v Speaker 4>staff have said that having a trained team made an

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<v Speaker 4>immediate difference. This also sits alongside real government money. 33

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<v Speaker 4>endometriosis clinics are now running nationally. PBS Medicine is down

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<v Speaker 4>to $ 25 a script.

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<v Speaker 2>Still expensive, but not too bad.

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<v Speaker 4>And 6,700 plus women already have saved $ 4. 9 million on

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<v Speaker 4>treatment this year.

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<v Speaker 3>That is something that's moving in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Great news, my friend. Yes. Now let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So as I said up top, I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you all these different scenarios and you're going to decide

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<v Speaker 1>if this secondary caregiver, normally a daddy.

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<v Speaker 3>But not always.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate when you say daddy.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually was going to get.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually makes me want to vomit. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>That's literally why I said that. I need to move

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<v Speaker 2>past that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just I don't know why it feels sexualised and

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<v Speaker 4>also very creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally say it to creep you out. So maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I should stop baiting you. I might. As you have

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<v Speaker 3>a sip of your yummy drink. Yummy daddy. Go.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, we'll get back to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the rules for this game are I present you

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<v Speaker 1>with a scenario and we figure out if this person

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<v Speaker 1>is going straight to jail or playing on. If they

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<v Speaker 1>have a jail sentence, you're either giving them six months

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<v Speaker 1>or life in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this all came about because Hayden, bless his soul,

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<v Speaker 1>is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always trying hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's some things that he does around the house

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, is my standard too high or is

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<v Speaker 1>his too low?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we're going to get to a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of both in some of these.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I'm like, I don't know if it's legal to

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<v Speaker 3>fold the towels that badly. Okay. But maybe it should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we shouldn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel already that I'm a much harsher critic than

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<v Speaker 2>you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is good.

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<v Speaker 2>Naturally, I think that you are more relaxed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm not as clean. You've made that.

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<v Speaker 2>My standard is clean. I don't mean that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no. You've just said it much kinder than

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<v Speaker 3>it is. And it's that I'm messier than you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>You are.

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<v Speaker 2>You definitely are though. Only because I am extremely clean.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not offended.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I am off the scales.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah. The bar is high over there.

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<v Speaker 2>The bar is very fucking high.

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<v Speaker 1>So I put this to Instagram and I was originally

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<v Speaker 1>going to read out a list of mine, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>almost been embedded in this list that the people have

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<v Speaker 1>provided me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, I just need to read out

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else's. So first one, Lozzie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Suggesting I make lunchbox during school hauls for days I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at work and he's at home with the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I even need to say this?

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<v Speaker 3>Jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Jail.

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<v Speaker 3>Sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>You've probably been the birther of these kids. You're probably

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<v Speaker 1>the one that took the parental leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Make a fucking lunchbox yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, make it yourself. Give me your also first.

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<v Speaker 2>Or just don't make a lunchbox and just give them

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want during the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally. They're on holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're on holidays. Let them live.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally like I want to throw lunchboxes out on holidays

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like you get so sick of making them.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I don't mind a lunchbox. As in I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to have a routine. You like to take

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<v Speaker 2>one out with you. Yeah, I like to take one

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<v Speaker 2>out with me. But I'm also a bit like if

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<v Speaker 2>he is looking after the kids and you're at work,

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<v Speaker 2>I give a shit what the kids eat. You sort

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<v Speaker 2>it out. If you want to do McDonald's for every meal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go for it. Go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that grate me slightly?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But also, as long as that mental load of preparing

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<v Speaker 4>food isn't on my plate, do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're not calling me about it? Yeah, whatever. Just

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<v Speaker 3>go forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, on that, Hayes made dinner the other night and

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<v Speaker 1>it was sort of mostly leftovers and random things that

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<v Speaker 1>he bought at the store.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was not a single vegetable on the plate,

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<v Speaker 1>which normally for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was the dinner then?

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a bit of chicken, a bit of,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually.

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<v Speaker 4>I love how you said it was all this random

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<v Speaker 4>stuff in the fridge, but not a vegetable. I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it literally chicken, rice and a sauce?

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<v Speaker 3>It was leftover pasta. It was a bit of leftover chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And potato jam.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a potato jam. It's the most underrated food

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<v Speaker 2>on earth.

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<v Speaker 3>We eat them pretty often in our household. Yeah, it's delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>Or at least Hayden with the kids does when they

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<v Speaker 3>do steak night.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was almost a bit peeved because lately Hayden

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<v Speaker 1>has been particularly busy and doing less dinners.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, sweetie, I'm making sure the kids

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<v Speaker 3>have vegetables. Oh, see. What's this shit?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually couldn't care less about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I actually felt in that moment, like it's one

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<v Speaker 3>dinner out of a million. Yeah. He doesn't deserve to

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<v Speaker 3>go to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're saying that my standards were.

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<v Speaker 2>Too high there. Yeah, but he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>If it happens every night, sure. But if it's a one-off, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he doesn't. But that other person, jail.

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<v Speaker 3>That other person's going to jail. You get locked up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not happy with that. Yeah. Yeah, you're allowed to

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<v Speaker 3>be unhappy with that, dear listener. Next one. Leaving his

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<v Speaker 3>toothbrush and toothpaste on the bathroom sink every time he brushes.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't cope with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be like, don't you have any respect?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but is it jail worthy?

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to be sure, isn't it? Because like technically.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually think it is because.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to brush your teeth, of course you have

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<v Speaker 1>to clean it up.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to leave it in there. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know what?

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<v Speaker 4>This is my distinction. That's a public place, the vanity.

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<v Speaker 4>When people come into your home and they need to

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<v Speaker 4>use the toilet and wash their hands, if our wifey-o

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<v Speaker 4>did not clean it, they would have to wash it

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<v Speaker 4>and look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>If, however.

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<v Speaker 4>You, dear listener, your husband or whoever your partner is,

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<v Speaker 4>left that in the shower facility?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's, yep, that's play on. Possible. Gross for me,

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<v Speaker 3>but play on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, play on. I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a really good distinction. Thank you. Next one.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaving cupboards and drawers just slightly open instead.

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<v Speaker 3>Of closing them fully. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's jail worthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's fucking annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so fucking annoying. I also, I have this real

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<v Speaker 2>thing and I say it about Ryan.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not me talking about it behind his back at all,

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<v Speaker 4>but I would say there is an archetype of husband

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<v Speaker 4>and I like to call that husband 80% man. And

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<v Speaker 4>that 80% man has the best intentions and he's an

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<v Speaker 4>incredible partner. They always seem to get 80% of the

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<v Speaker 4>way through a task and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's 20% off. And I want to be like, oh, yes,

0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:14.959
<v Speaker 4>you did it. But that's a great example. When you

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<v Speaker 4>close the cupboard and you just marginally miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's like deep down inside you without realizing 80%

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<v Speaker 1>husband that.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone else will do it for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think it's that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's the fact that They get so close

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<v Speaker 4>to finishing a task that they're like, it's done.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, it's not quite done.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't that subconsciously because they know someone else will

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<v Speaker 1>do it, even if they're not thinking it consciously?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because, for example, I'll give you an example. Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>does this all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>He does tasks or like he'll unpack the dishwasher, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and he'll unpack it fully. So a dishwasher is 100% unpacked.

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<v Speaker 4>But there might be some items like lunch boxes that

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<v Speaker 4>don't dry properly and he'll put them on the bench.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's like to dry for later. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, I'm like that's an 80% task.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you have unpacked the dishwasher to 100%.

0:19:02.950 --> 0:19:03.000
<v Speaker 3>100%.

0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.080
<v Speaker 2>But you've left 10% of those items.

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<v Speaker 3>Grab the tea towel. Dry them out. On the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other 10 is the fact that you

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<v Speaker 2>leave them there to dry and then I have to

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<v Speaker 2>put them away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think without him realising he's being a see

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<v Speaker 1>you next Tuesday about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, I'm off to work now. This will

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<v Speaker 1>get done later. And maybe he thinks it will be

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<v Speaker 1>him that does it later.

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<v Speaker 2>Potentially, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what I mean? It's like the assumption

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<v Speaker 3>that someone's doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And, like, you're never going to let that sit there

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<v Speaker 1>all day if you're working from home because you're not

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<v Speaker 1>that type. No.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, just dry it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just pick up a tea towel and dry it. Then

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<v Speaker 3>it will be 100%.

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden did so much folding this morning, like an obscene amount,

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<v Speaker 1>and he washed the windows and he did all these

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<v Speaker 1>things with the kids with him while I was walking

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs. So, like, I'm genuinely not having a go

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<v Speaker 1>at him in this context. And he ran out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>But he didn't put the clothes away and.

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<v Speaker 3>It is annoying. Again, it's 80%.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like he did so much and I was

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<v Speaker 1>out for a walk But it's still, it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Just complete it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have to put it away. Just complete the task.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes another fucking few minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, next one. Oh, we're only like three in. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got so many to go. Oh, yeah, this one's Hayden. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing bath time but leaving the bath toys in the

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<v Speaker 1>bath rather than draining and stacking.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is so Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a crime.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Because, like, toys get mouldy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was about to say the same thing. Anybody

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<v Speaker 2>listening to this would be like, these chicks are fucking insane.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, Lucy, I didn't know you cared about mould.

0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Chill out. Chill out. But, yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Jail.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually gross, that, though, because, as I said, mould.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want mould in our fucking kids' baths and

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<v Speaker 1>in their toys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but, again, I think it's the visibility factor for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I see.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's the yuckiness of build-up. Like, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>grime builds up in that and I can't handle that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I don't care about the aesthetic of the toys

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<v Speaker 3>in the bath. Oh, I see. Which is why I

0:20:49.660 --> 0:20:51.469
<v Speaker 3>used to actually let it go. But then I was like, no,

0:20:51.490 --> 0:20:53.510
<v Speaker 3>the toys get yucky if they're left like this all

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>We've come at that from different angles. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>call this one jail before I even read.

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<v Speaker 3>It out to you. What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Not replacing toilet paper roll or replacing it but the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way.

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<v Speaker 3>Jail. Yeah, jail. Wrong way.

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<v Speaker 2>Which way is the right way?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I like it coming from under. Pull out. I

0:21:11.090 --> 0:21:12.820
<v Speaker 3>knew it was going to be wrong for you. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. No, I like it from over. I actually

0:21:14.730 --> 0:21:17.310
<v Speaker 3>like it from over. Sorry. Damn it. Of course. It

0:21:17.330 --> 0:21:18.810
<v Speaker 3>would have been better if I liked it from under.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>You like it from over. I need to know. Okay,

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:24.100
<v Speaker 2>here's a poll.

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<v Speaker 3>You like it from under.

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<v Speaker 2>Over?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you like it from under. Are you insane? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No,

0:21:28.060 --> 0:21:28.780
<v Speaker 3>we're on the same page.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Here's a poll to our community.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. How does toilet paper go?

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<v Speaker 2>How does toilet paper go? Is it over or is

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<v Speaker 2>it under?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I simply must know. I think I have been to

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<v Speaker 4>one person's house ever that was an under once. And

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<v Speaker 4>I was so shook that I wanted to change it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But I feel like it would fall more if

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<v Speaker 3>it was under. Yeah. It would fall more easily. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>That's jail. Yeah, now I'm over. Okay. Yeah, not replacing

0:21:53.990 --> 0:21:56.490
<v Speaker 3>toilet paper is actually just fucking rude. Yeah, it's gross.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you think there's a maid in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a necessity too. Come on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone needs to use that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up, tearing open frozen chips or peas like a

0:22:05.260 --> 0:22:05.940
<v Speaker 1>frigging bear.

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<v Speaker 3>Peas all over the freezer. What the fuck, man?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>That's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I do that.

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 3>I think I can be a bit flitty in those ways.

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can do that. As in I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to have scissors.

0:22:17.220 --> 0:22:19.160
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I'm stressed and I'm like, I should get scissors

0:22:19.180 --> 0:22:21.830
<v Speaker 4>to cut this open and I don't and it goes everywhere.

0:22:22.070 --> 0:22:23.030
<v Speaker 4>It's a design of the packets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and in the freezer it's less like gross because

0:22:25.550 --> 0:22:27.330
<v Speaker 1>it's still going to be frozen in there and we

0:22:27.350 --> 0:22:28.270
<v Speaker 1>can just throw them out later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Not great. I understand why you're annoyed, listener, but... Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>One out of two for this one. So there's two parts. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Always giving our toddler a big bottle of milk instead

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<v Speaker 1>of a half bottle of milk when I've asked a

0:22:39.170 --> 0:22:41.639
<v Speaker 1>million times because she's three and a half and we

0:22:41.660 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>need to wean her.

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<v Speaker 3>I get the frustration here a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say it's a pass.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The only reason why I'm going to say that, though,

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<v Speaker 4>is because I'm also in the same boat.

0:22:52.390 --> 0:22:53.330
<v Speaker 2>So Zaev still has a bottle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:22:53.690 --> 0:22:54.230
<v Speaker 2>He's nearly four.

0:22:54.410 --> 0:22:54.530
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a comfort item and I feel so much repressed

0:22:56.869 --> 0:22:58.750
<v Speaker 4>guilt about it, which is ridiculous.

0:22:58.930 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I give my kids a half water, half bottle, half

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 1>milk bottle every night. Is that wrong that they're over?

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:03.900
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not.

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:05.500
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's wrong, but I think there's this

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 4>real underlying thing that after the age of one, kids

0:23:08.820 --> 0:23:09.460
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't have a bottle.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:11.179
<v Speaker 2>And I have felt so much pressure.

0:23:11.380 --> 0:23:13.420
<v Speaker 3>It's like a baby and your child.

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:14.179
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to ditch it.

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.050
<v Speaker 4>So I would almost say some of your frustration is

0:23:16.070 --> 0:23:17.790
<v Speaker 4>probably coming from the fact that deep down you want.

0:23:17.710 --> 0:23:18.490
<v Speaker 2>To get rid of that bottle.

0:23:18.730 --> 0:23:19.310
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:23:19.330 --> 0:23:21.030
<v Speaker 4>When in fact, it's like not a big deal. Your

0:23:21.050 --> 0:23:22.710
<v Speaker 4>kid's not going to be sucking on a bottle at 15.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, forever.

0:23:23.890 --> 0:23:25.810
<v Speaker 1>I give it a pass too, but I will say

0:23:25.930 --> 0:23:28.990
<v Speaker 1>I really understand the resentment of when you ask your

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<v Speaker 1>partner to come on board with something you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do and you're the primary parent and they don't listen

0:23:34.310 --> 0:23:36.230
<v Speaker 1>because it's like, well, you step into primary parent then

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<v Speaker 1>and I won't listen to you. So I agree that

0:23:38.580 --> 0:23:42.220
<v Speaker 1>it's a pass, but I get your frustration deeply. Next one,

0:23:42.300 --> 0:23:45.540
<v Speaker 1>just shoving our kids' clothes in any drawer rather than

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<v Speaker 1>folding them into their spots.

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<v Speaker 3>Jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Lifetime sentence. Yeah, lifetime sentence. Lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>Personal story for you. I always used to do our

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.570
<v Speaker 4>washing for many, many years. But when there was two

0:23:57.609 --> 0:23:59.770
<v Speaker 4>of us, mainly because I'm pedantic with how I like

0:23:59.790 --> 0:24:01.410
<v Speaker 4>things washed, there's a certain type of cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm like.

0:24:02.869 --> 0:24:05.020
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Gatekeeping. It's maternal gatekeeping. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>But before I had children, I was like this.

0:24:07.460 --> 0:24:08.580
<v Speaker 3>Before you were maternal. I was.

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:11.540
<v Speaker 2>Before I was maternal. Like I just needed to do

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>things a certain way. I have a specific wash I like.

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

0:24:14.460 --> 0:24:15.740
<v Speaker 4>And I used to fold the clothes. And then I

0:24:15.830 --> 0:24:18.510
<v Speaker 4>used to watch Ryan put them away. And he would

0:24:18.530 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 4>just grab them and shove them. And when we had kids,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I can't do that anymore.

0:24:24.900 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually can't even fold your clothes because you don't

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate it. And I asked him, do you want me

0:24:29.380 --> 0:24:29.780
<v Speaker 4>to fold your clothes?

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I don't really care. It's fine.

0:24:31.060 --> 0:24:31.460
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't even worry about it. And I was like, how

0:24:33.180 --> 0:24:35.110
<v Speaker 2>have I not asked this to you before? Yeah. Like

0:24:35.490 --> 0:24:36.869
<v Speaker 2>he does not care. So I put them in a

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<v Speaker 2>pile and then sometimes he folds them and puts them away.

0:24:40.190 --> 0:24:42.190
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes he doesn't. Like he'll just throw them away.

0:24:42.210 --> 0:24:42.390
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:42.490 --> 0:24:43.990
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, they're not even my clothes. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even wearing them. I don't care.

0:24:45.090 --> 0:24:45.810
<v Speaker 3>Why do I care? Yeah.

0:24:45.810 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>100%. However, putting things in the wrong drawers, again, is

0:24:49.100 --> 0:24:50.459
<v Speaker 1>just giving like, oh, someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so annoying.

0:24:51.500 --> 0:24:51.820
<v Speaker 3>I agree.

0:24:51.859 --> 0:24:54.020
<v Speaker 1>Or I'll just make the morning harder for that person

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:55.100
<v Speaker 1>who's trying to find something.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree.

0:24:55.859 --> 0:24:56.399
<v Speaker 3>Not a vibe.

0:24:57.100 --> 0:24:59.530
<v Speaker 1>This makes me laugh so much from a listener. Fuck,

0:24:59.550 --> 0:25:01.590
<v Speaker 1>how much time have you got? Okay, here's a doozy.

0:25:01.630 --> 0:25:04.730
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. All of a sudden, man started leaving up the

0:25:04.790 --> 0:25:06.310
<v Speaker 3>toilet seat. Gross.

0:25:06.410 --> 0:25:06.770
<v Speaker 2>Jail.

0:25:06.990 --> 0:25:07.730
<v Speaker 3>That's wrong.

0:25:07.750 --> 0:25:08.450
<v Speaker 2>Put that shit down.

0:25:08.930 --> 0:25:10.290
<v Speaker 3>That shows no respect to women.

0:25:10.330 --> 0:25:12.410
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't. Have you ever fallen into a situation?

0:25:12.470 --> 0:25:14.149
<v Speaker 2>I've done this once and it's so disgusting.

0:25:14.330 --> 0:25:15.949
<v Speaker 3>Where you accidentally sit on the toilet.

0:25:16.109 --> 0:25:16.429
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:25:16.490 --> 0:25:18.740
<v Speaker 3>I reckon I've cussed at Hayden if I've done it.

0:25:18.790 --> 0:25:20.030
<v Speaker 2>And it makes you want to vomit.

0:25:20.050 --> 0:25:20.689
<v Speaker 3>Literally could vomit.

0:25:20.750 --> 0:25:23.130
<v Speaker 2>And the room is so small and it's so fucking

0:25:23.190 --> 0:25:24.870
<v Speaker 2>cold and you're like, I know there's piss on this

0:25:25.050 --> 0:25:26.310
<v Speaker 2>and it makes you sick.

0:25:26.330 --> 0:25:28.429
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing more disgusting than that. Yeah, it's gross. It's

0:25:28.450 --> 0:25:29.930
<v Speaker 3>so yuck. It's happened to us all. And I'm glad

0:25:29.970 --> 0:25:31.780
<v Speaker 3>you admitted that because you're the clean freak. Oh, it's

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.479
<v Speaker 3>so yuck. It's so fucking gross. I reckon lifetime. I'm

0:25:34.500 --> 0:25:36.780
<v Speaker 3>giving that lifetime. Yeah, lifetime. I agree. Next one.

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.699
<v Speaker 1>Gets baby out of bed early and turns on the

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<v Speaker 1>lights immediately.

0:25:40.780 --> 0:25:43.300
<v Speaker 3>This is a weird ick for me. I totally get

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:43.780
<v Speaker 3>this one.

0:25:43.859 --> 0:25:45.780
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nah, mate. Leave them in their cot while they're

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:46.740
<v Speaker 2>happy and do your shit.

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.170
<v Speaker 3>Don't make the house look like the MCG at 5am.

0:25:49.190 --> 0:25:50.030
<v Speaker 3>It's too much.

0:25:50.090 --> 0:25:50.670
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to lie.

0:25:50.730 --> 0:25:52.090
<v Speaker 3>I hate to boast. But I will.

0:25:52.170 --> 0:25:52.690
<v Speaker 2>I feel like.

0:25:53.350 --> 0:25:57.250
<v Speaker 4>I've never really had my children, aside from during the night,

0:25:57.790 --> 0:25:59.970
<v Speaker 4>wake up at the crack of dawn to experience that.

0:26:00.010 --> 0:26:01.930
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they've either woken overnight.

0:26:02.210 --> 0:26:03.510
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've either woken, exactly right.

0:26:03.530 --> 0:26:06.350
<v Speaker 3>They're not like 5am-ers. Nah. It's like up all night

0:26:06.390 --> 0:26:07.550
<v Speaker 3>but then sleep in the morning.

0:26:07.710 --> 0:26:11.270
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but if someone turned on the light at 5am,

0:26:11.590 --> 0:26:13.340
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, shut that shit off.

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.090
<v Speaker 3>It is too bright. It's too bright.

0:26:15.350 --> 0:26:18.450
<v Speaker 1>Hayden is in this real fucking annoying habit of reading

0:26:18.510 --> 0:26:19.929
<v Speaker 1>on his phone. Like he'll buy a book on his

0:26:19.950 --> 0:26:21.530
<v Speaker 1>phone and read it on his phone. And I hate,

0:26:21.650 --> 0:26:23.969
<v Speaker 1>I'm very worried with phones in the bedroom. They do

0:26:23.990 --> 0:26:26.210
<v Speaker 1>not exist in the bedroom. For some reason, my iPad

0:26:26.230 --> 0:26:27.930
<v Speaker 1>feels a bit different if I'm reading on my iPad,

0:26:27.950 --> 0:26:30.300
<v Speaker 1>which sometimes I am, but I hate seeing his phone there.

0:26:30.619 --> 0:26:32.220
<v Speaker 1>This morning he needed to read in the middle of

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.899
<v Speaker 1>the night and it was 3.40am and he woke me

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>up and he's reading and.

0:26:37.740 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 3>And then I go, what's the time? He goes off 4, 4.30,

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.700
<v Speaker 3>I think. And so I'm like, okay, well, I fell

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 3>asleep earlier last night.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:44.290
<v Speaker 1>I'm just waking up. I can feel I'm really awake.

0:26:44.630 --> 0:26:46.190
<v Speaker 1>Then it's 3.40 and I'm awake for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no. I'm sorry.

0:26:48.060 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Leave the room if you need to read that.

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.940
<v Speaker 4>I woke up at 3.15 and did a wee and

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.149
<v Speaker 4>then I looked out at the dark night and I

0:26:54.150 --> 0:26:56.270
<v Speaker 4>was like, whoa, it's bedtime.

0:26:57.090 --> 0:26:57.690
<v Speaker 3>Back to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>No, why would I wake up after that?

0:26:59.369 --> 0:27:02.490
<v Speaker 3>I know. Once I'm awake, I'm really awake. It's so bad.

0:27:02.869 --> 0:27:04.929
<v Speaker 1>Well, I read for an hour hoping I'd fall back

0:27:04.970 --> 0:27:05.350
<v Speaker 1>to sleep.

0:27:05.390 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Didn't happen. Okay. Saying I'll do the dishes in the morning. Hate. Yeah.

0:27:10.650 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Straight to do.

0:27:11.300 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I feel so bad. We're not giving any

0:27:13.460 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 4>passes here. But that's a hard non-pass for me.

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.380
<v Speaker 3>We've got some pretty bad ones to be fair to us.

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.530
<v Speaker 3>To let things just sit and get grimy overnight, it

0:27:22.570 --> 0:27:23.470
<v Speaker 3>doesn't help anyone.

0:27:23.490 --> 0:27:25.010
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about the overnight. I don't give a shit.

0:27:25.530 --> 0:27:28.070
<v Speaker 4>It's the fact that the next morning comes and something

0:27:28.109 --> 0:27:30.110
<v Speaker 4>comes up and it doesn't get done. I have this

0:27:30.230 --> 0:27:31.990
<v Speaker 4>real thing and I know this is a bad habit

0:27:32.030 --> 0:27:34.050
<v Speaker 4>of mine, but again, this is why I use the

0:27:34.070 --> 0:27:36.750
<v Speaker 4>term immediately. When I ask for something to be done,

0:27:37.030 --> 0:27:38.730
<v Speaker 4>it's not because I can't do it myself.

0:27:38.930 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely can.

0:27:40.170 --> 0:27:41.780
<v Speaker 4>But it's because the timeframe that I want it done

0:27:41.820 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 4>is specific. So whenever I ask for something and it

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 4>drives around absolutely fucking bananas, rightly so, but I'm always like,

0:27:48.780 --> 0:27:49.580
<v Speaker 4>can you do this now?

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:50.580
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:50.780 --> 0:27:53.380
<v Speaker 2>Do you mind unpacking that? straight after dinner. Like I'll

0:27:53.500 --> 0:27:54.980
<v Speaker 2>always put a thing.

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.500
<v Speaker 1>You have to make the request because you're the primary carer.

0:27:58.520 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, if you want to put a timeline

0:27:59.960 --> 0:28:01.220
<v Speaker 1>on it, go for it, sweetie.

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:02.030
<v Speaker 3>You're caring a lot.

0:28:02.090 --> 0:28:04.469
<v Speaker 4>The in the morning thing, if that was me, I'd

0:28:04.510 --> 0:28:06.170
<v Speaker 4>wake up in the morning and be like, straight away.

0:28:06.190 --> 0:28:07.649
<v Speaker 3>Are you doing the dishwasher?

0:28:07.890 --> 0:28:09.750
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've never said this to you actually, but one

0:28:09.770 --> 0:28:11.770
<v Speaker 1>of the best things I've learned about you is like,

0:28:11.850 --> 0:28:12.550
<v Speaker 1>if you have the time to.

0:28:12.510 --> 0:28:13.250
<v Speaker 3>Do it, just get it done.

0:28:13.410 --> 0:28:13.929
<v Speaker 2>I always get done.

0:28:13.950 --> 0:28:15.670
<v Speaker 1>Because you're really good like that. Whereas I'll put things

0:28:15.730 --> 0:28:17.770
<v Speaker 1>off sometimes. Like I'll be organized for big things.

0:28:17.869 --> 0:28:20.149
<v Speaker 3>But like... Actually, we'll have a joke.

0:28:20.710 --> 0:28:21.090
<v Speaker 2>I cannot.

0:28:21.150 --> 0:28:23.620
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not this one, sweetie. It's next week's, remember?

0:28:23.820 --> 0:28:24.540
<v Speaker 3>Even this one.

0:28:25.060 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Lou has done the production schedule for this and this

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.780
<v Speaker 2>is what it says. Look at phone notes. I was like, okay.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.859
<v Speaker 2>I can't prepare for this at all. I can't wait

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:34.740
<v Speaker 2>to hear what this is about.

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.629
<v Speaker 3>I did text you. You did, you did, you did.

0:28:36.660 --> 0:28:38.220
<v Speaker 1>But do you know what's the funniest thing about Loz

0:28:38.260 --> 0:28:40.670
<v Speaker 1>and I? In the production schedule, I'm often later now,

0:28:40.710 --> 0:28:42.270
<v Speaker 1>which is funny because it used to always be me.

0:28:42.490 --> 0:28:42.730
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:42.830 --> 0:28:44.590
<v Speaker 1>But you're busier than me so you're just so much

0:28:44.630 --> 0:28:46.450
<v Speaker 1>quicker than I even, I haven't even got to them

0:28:46.470 --> 0:28:48.140
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, no, fuck, I'm meant to set them.

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.620
<v Speaker 2>Up, not you. No, because I allocate a time blocker.

0:28:50.660 --> 0:28:53.300
<v Speaker 1>Well, and also you're working so much further ahead than

0:28:53.340 --> 0:28:56.410
<v Speaker 1>me because you are busier than me. But it's really funny,

0:28:56.470 --> 0:28:58.790
<v Speaker 1>like Loz in the past has used different fonts and

0:28:58.830 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>whatnot and I'm like, I can't handle it.

0:29:00.290 --> 0:29:03.190
<v Speaker 3>I know, you always change it. But I'm weirder with

0:29:03.230 --> 0:29:07.150
<v Speaker 3>pedantic in completely different ways. It's so funny. Next one.

0:29:07.450 --> 0:29:10.570
<v Speaker 1>Wants gold stars for shopping the pantry first to keep

0:29:10.610 --> 0:29:11.690
<v Speaker 1>grocery costs down.

0:29:12.100 --> 0:29:16.340
<v Speaker 3>Okay, now I sound like a wincher. Okay. Well, look,

0:29:16.380 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 3>maybe you don't need gold stars for it, sweet husband.

0:29:18.540 --> 0:29:19.300
<v Speaker 2>I think a pass for that.

0:29:19.500 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it's actually a great thing to be doing.

0:29:21.420 --> 0:29:23.340
<v Speaker 3>I agree. I love the frugality of it and the

0:29:23.380 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 3>less is more.

0:29:24.620 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>But, yeah, like you don't need a pat, unless you're

0:29:26.620 --> 0:29:28.140
<v Speaker 1>going to pat your partner on the back for everything

0:29:28.180 --> 0:29:28.580
<v Speaker 1>she's done.

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.620
<v Speaker 4>No, but I do appreciate that. I actually do like that.

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:32.830
<v Speaker 4>So that's a pass.

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.190
<v Speaker 1>Keeps buying products with preservatives when I've told him which

0:29:36.230 --> 0:29:37.010
<v Speaker 1>products are cleaner.

0:29:37.030 --> 0:29:39.010
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's also going to be a pass for me

0:29:39.350 --> 0:29:43.700
<v Speaker 4>only because it's fucking annoying. If you've told and you're like,

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 4>come on, mate, I've given you the option.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:46.140 --> 0:29:48.620
<v Speaker 4>But I'm also a bit like, I feel like preservatives

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 4>don't end. There's so many things to look for. And

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 4>I find that quite confusing on the back of a packet.

0:29:52.580 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 3>It's bloody confusing.

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 4>So if that was me, I'd be like, Unless you

0:29:54.940 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 4>tell me the exact product to replicate it with, I

0:29:57.380 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 4>can't delineate. I can't go through and like figure out

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:02.010
<v Speaker 4>all the facts of that.

0:30:02.070 --> 0:30:03.810
<v Speaker 2>I cannot do it. I need someone to tell me,

0:30:03.870 --> 0:30:04.590
<v Speaker 2>which is even more annoying.

0:30:04.950 --> 0:30:05.150
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:05.290 --> 0:30:07.290
<v Speaker 1>I sit on both sides of what to do here

0:30:07.310 --> 0:30:09.450
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, it is frustrating when someone's not hearing you.

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>And obviously this is like for this person, like an

0:30:11.860 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>important thing.

0:30:13.220 --> 0:30:13.820
<v Speaker 3>But at the.

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.500
<v Speaker 1>Same time, I'm probably giving a pass while saying that

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:17.620
<v Speaker 1>that is really fucking annoying.

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.530
<v Speaker 3>Yes. Basically, I just repeated you. I didn't need to

0:30:19.550 --> 0:30:20.630
<v Speaker 3>say any of that. Yeah, well, you know, same, same.

0:30:21.050 --> 0:30:21.950
<v Speaker 3>I did not need to say that.

0:30:21.970 --> 0:30:22.050
<v Speaker 2>Same.

0:30:22.570 --> 0:30:26.430
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't put things away. So there's always clothes, plates, peanut butter,

0:30:26.470 --> 0:30:28.020
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, around jail.

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Jail.

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.380
<v Speaker 1>What? So they're just not putting anything away?

0:30:31.420 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 2>What's it called? Solitary confinement. Put your shit away, mate.

0:30:35.670 --> 0:30:35.890
<v Speaker 3>I cannot.

0:30:35.910 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that. That should have been an option.

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:38.719
<v Speaker 2>And if you don't want to pull your stuff away,

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.940
<v Speaker 2>stay in a room with no shit in there. Yeah.

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:42.980
<v Speaker 3>It's the worst.

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it was on a Shameless episode they were

0:30:44.660 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about petty things and someone said their housemate was

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:48.900
<v Speaker 1>going away but left dirty pots in the sink.

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:49.300
<v Speaker 3>Yuck.

0:30:49.340 --> 0:30:53.860
<v Speaker 1>And that person as their petty act. Put pots on

0:30:53.950 --> 0:30:55.540
<v Speaker 1>the bed of the housemate.

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.420
<v Speaker 3>And I thought that was brilliant. I just threw them out. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you doing? Gross. Okay, last one here.

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<v Speaker 1>I cook six out of seven nights, but he does

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<v Speaker 1>the easy meal, i.e.

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<v Speaker 3>Pie in the oven.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say pass.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really tricky one for me because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's doing other stuff with that time and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like being with the kids and he's cleaning up, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually okay with it because everyone's standards of cooking and

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<v Speaker 1>what a meal.

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<v Speaker 3>Is are different. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I would also say, unfortunately, that's me. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>be real. If there's one thing I don't accelerate at.

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<v Speaker 3>Excel at.

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<v Speaker 2>Excel, not accelerate. Excel at. It is cooking. I like baking.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to enjoy the process of cooking, but

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<v Speaker 4>with three young children, I simply don't. And Ryan is

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<v Speaker 4>so much better than me at providing like a home-cooked meal.

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<v Speaker 4>Often I'll be like, oh, I'll just pick up lasagna.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll be like, Daz, you could make the bolognese. Or

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<v Speaker 4>use the bolognese I've made in the fridge and just

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<v Speaker 4>put the pasta sheets on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's too hard. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, you two are so different like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually a shame that he has to work so

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<v Speaker 1>much because there's no different meals.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd come home to.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be so nice. I can tell he gets

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<v Speaker 2>home and he's like, fucking hell, this is so grim.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Sorry. As long as he doesn't say it, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>fine with that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're fine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all we have time for.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving that person a pass too because I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>they might value meals differently.

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<v Speaker 3>It's annoying. I totally get it. Yeah. But I'm giving

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<v Speaker 3>a pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too. Me too.

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