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Speaker 1: Oh Hello, thank you for joining us today on this

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Speaker 1: body and soul podcast God Healthy Ish. I am your

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Speaker 1: host of Felicity Halley. We are joined by the effervescent

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Speaker 1: Flex Mammy today. She's an author, podcast and entrepreneur as

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Speaker 1: well as many other things, and she has a profound

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Speaker 1: connection with her dream so she's going to share with

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Speaker 1: us today how she uses AI to decode them and

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Speaker 1: also how in turn they guide her future decisions. Now,

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Speaker 1: we keep these Healthyish episodes kind of short, so listening

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Speaker 1: to our full chat on Extra Healthy Ish, where Flex

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Speaker 1: talks about how she navigates her spiritual life, you can

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Speaker 1: grab that one where we get you podcasts. Flex. Nice

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Speaker 1: to have you on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, I'm so stoked to be here. I love a chat.

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Speaker 1: Oh me too, and especially about this time. I've never

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Speaker 1: gone down this path before. Before we get to the

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Speaker 1: whole AI decoding dreams, tell us about your deep connection

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Speaker 1: with your dreams.

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Speaker 2: I wish we had forty five minutes because I'm resistingly

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Speaker 2: urged to ramble, but from the beginning of time, but

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Speaker 2: if you kick on, I've been a quintessential dreamer, not

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Speaker 2: just in the big goals kind of sense, in the

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Speaker 2: I have a dream every night, and I'd be running

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Speaker 2: to tell somebody, anybody about it. Granted I only had

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Speaker 2: I would say, ninety eight percent nightmares until I was

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Speaker 2: about twenty seven. Won't get into that, But for that reason,

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Speaker 2: I had really vizied, imaginative, reoccurring and also symbolically rich dreams,

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Speaker 2: and I couldn't talk to anybody else about it because

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Speaker 2: they were like, I don't really dream that off theen

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Speaker 2: or don't even worry about that. There's no reason to

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Speaker 2: decode that. They don't mean anything. Your brain goes to

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Speaker 2: sleep when you're asleep, and studies have shown that that's

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Speaker 2: not the case. We're still trying to uncover what is

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Speaker 2: it the brain's actually doing when we're asleep. It's categorizing,

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Speaker 2: it's decoding, it's putting things into their nice little neat

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Speaker 2: pockets so you don't have to think about storing them

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Speaker 2: and processing them. But because we clog our brains all

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Speaker 2: day with stuffs and then we go to bed and

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Speaker 2: we're fighting demons, it feels as though we're missing the

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Speaker 2: secret sauce, Like, Okay, you had the dream. It was strange,

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Speaker 2: it was freaky, but what actually happened and how did

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Speaker 2: it make you feel? And what are these reoccurring themes?

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Speaker 2: I know you think it's just about teeth and snakes

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Speaker 2: and water, but your subconscious talks to you and symbols.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't know English, okay, it predates language. All it

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Speaker 2: knows is how to show you pictures and emotions, because

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Speaker 2: that's what we're programmed to know and feel.

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Speaker 1: Do you have you always? I mean, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: You know how when you dream and you wake up

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Speaker 1: and then you think, what just happened? Am I going

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Speaker 1: to remember this? Have you been diligent in writing them down?

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Speaker 1: Or how do you kind of process them after the fact.

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Speaker 2: I've got a whole price. So right now, at my

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Speaker 2: advance point in time, I'll do a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: I got my whole journal. I'll carry literal listeners.

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Speaker 1: She's showing me this on the screen, on the screen.

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Speaker 2: And if on like a day when I'm really into it,

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Speaker 2: i'd say five days out of the week, I'll grab

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Speaker 2: my voice note voice memo on my phone. I'll talk

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Speaker 2: into my phone. I don't try and you know, articulate.

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Speaker 2: And then my mother Liz said this, No, I just

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Speaker 2: speak and ramble and ramble and ramble. Then I take

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Speaker 2: that voice file, transcribe it, put it into an AI software.

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Speaker 2: I'm using Microsoft Copilot plus PC at the moment, and

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Speaker 2: I'll give it a prompt and I'll say, can you

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Speaker 2: explain to me what are these recurring symbols that keep

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Speaker 2: coming up and how that could relate to me right now?

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Speaker 2: And it might say what's going on in your life?

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Speaker 2: I might say, I don't want to express that, just

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Speaker 2: let me know what's coming through. And then it will say, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: we're seeing there's a lot happening here in terms of transformation.

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Speaker 2: You said you had a dream a couple of days

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Speaker 2: ago that incorporated water and shells, that things coming back

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Speaker 2: up again. Have you considered that in your research? You

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Speaker 2: did about this and this, but that keeps coming up,

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Speaker 2: And I'll say, oh, I forgot about that dream I

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Speaker 2: had before. Thank you for recalling that. And so it's

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Speaker 2: been really awesome because very few people have the ability

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Speaker 2: to recall the super saucy, nourishing details of the dream.

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Speaker 2: And most often we like to imbue these symbols with

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Speaker 2: our own meanings, so we think the people we see

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Speaker 2: are literally the people that are in our lives or

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Speaker 2: the place you went to is the literal place, but no,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about the archetype of what you're experiencing. Are

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Speaker 2: you in a safer unsafe environment? Is it dark outside

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Speaker 2: this happened to you? And that's when you really start

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Speaker 2: to get to the good bit. But the thing about

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Speaker 2: me is I'm a fanatic. I've been studying astrology, terror

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Speaker 2: and mysticism, esotericism for the greater part of twelve years

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Speaker 2: thirteen years. In the first book I wrote the six

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Speaker 2: Sex Experiment, I was squeezing in things by manifestation, just

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Speaker 2: something light so they knew so then you but not

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Speaker 2: everybody wants to learn a decade's worth of information to

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Speaker 2: get the goods back in return, And so I really

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Speaker 2: advocate for taking shortcuts. Your shortcut could be your spooky friend,

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Speaker 2: your witchy friend, or your shortcut becomes AI. And in

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Speaker 2: this instance, I feel like you do yourself a disservice

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Speaker 2: when you think you can't access these tools because you

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Speaker 2: yourself are not an expert. You're not going to be

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Speaker 2: an expert in most things, but you are bound to

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Speaker 2: get some kind of benefit if you allow yourself some little,

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Speaker 2: small micro steps to at least try do a search

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Speaker 2: term as something. So this is what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, whether or not you'll need a.

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Speaker 2: Whole new PC, that's besides me. But if you do

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Speaker 2: Microsoft Copilot plus PC, it's for you. All the AI

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Speaker 2: is encoded into the hardware and the software, so you're

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Speaker 2: not going to go into a separate browser, type in

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Speaker 2: what you need and then view the information. So you

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Speaker 2: can do that with Copilot. The distinction between having the

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Speaker 2: software in the hardware is that as you're typing on

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Speaker 2: your computer, everything on the computer is available for the

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Speaker 2: AI to scrub through to get more inside and inspiration.

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Speaker 2: If you've been googling about mermaid and menstrual cycles and

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Speaker 2: traveling to Peru, it can recall that information for you. However,

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Speaker 2: if you're just wanting some entry level I just want

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Speaker 2: to know how I can do this today, what you're

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Speaker 2: going to do is the moment you wake up, you're

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Speaker 2: going to type or voice to text into Copilot and

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Speaker 2: you're going to say, I had a dream last night.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what it means. I'm trying to understand it.

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Speaker 2: Please give me simple, actionable, detailed summaries of what this

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Speaker 2: dream could mean. And I want you to give me

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Speaker 2: two versions, one that's really really spiritual and one that

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Speaker 2: is practical. And if you can even do it, back

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Speaker 2: it up with some side.

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Speaker 1: And are you have you been happy with the outcome,

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Speaker 1: Like is it ever coughed up something where you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I had a dream a couple of months ago that

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Speaker 2: I rocked up to like an Olympic sized pool and

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Speaker 2: they were like, it's you. You're going to swim for Australia.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, look, you go a strong swimmer.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a strong swimmer. And they were like you're

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Speaker 2: was freaking out because I was like, I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going up to the registration desk and I'm

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Speaker 2: letting them know that, like, hey, I don't know who

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Speaker 2: told you that I'm going to be the swimmer, but

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Speaker 2: I can't do it. And this woman at the desk

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Speaker 2: is like, if you keep counting yourself out before you've tried,

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Speaker 2: you'll never get gold. Now granted I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: be an Olympic swimmer, but there was something there that

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Speaker 2: message that had I just left it and been like

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Speaker 2: that was a wacky GM back swimming, I would have

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Speaker 2: never understood it was trying to say, but there are

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Speaker 2: tons of situations where I'm like, probably not the right person.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, it not me?

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Speaker 1: So that is so how would you take that and

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Speaker 1: apply to your life? Like have you taken the outcome

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Speaker 1: whether it be that one or another outcome and gone okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: I can use this to you know, steer my decisions

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Speaker 1: in life.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I always say try not to go straight

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Speaker 2: from interpretation to action because there's this whole bit in

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Speaker 2: That's where you get side swept. So I do what

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Speaker 2: I call shadow work. But essentially it's a process in

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Speaker 2: which you're trying to decode, interpret what your subconscious is

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Speaker 2: really wanting you to know. So I'll take this idea

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Speaker 2: stop counting yourself out. And I can even use AI

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Speaker 2: for this and say, can you please give me five

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Speaker 2: journal prompts in and around this topic that I can

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Speaker 2: start to write about. And as I write about it,

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Speaker 2: I'll see similar themes coming up, like okay, it does

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Speaker 2: count as counting yourself out when you don't want to

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Speaker 2: go for that walk because you only have thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: what I also try to do is like I'm all

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Speaker 2: about grounding all of these concepts information for information sake.

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Speaker 2: I've been there, I've done that. I'm a mercurial person.

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Speaker 2: I love a little chit chat and I love a

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Speaker 2: little Google. But it gets to a point where you're

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Speaker 2: just taking up space in your brain and you need

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Speaker 2: to you need to let somebody else help you. And

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Speaker 2: if you don't have community, I guess for now you

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Speaker 2: do have AI.

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Speaker 1: It's a community. For now you can rely on that flex.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on healthy.

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Speaker 2: Ish my pleasure. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Well listeners. Perhaps it's a sign jump on AI. Write

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Speaker 1: your dream from last night in there, leave it in

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Speaker 1: a voice note. That's actually a really great idea when

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Speaker 1: you wake up in the morning. Anyway, I hope you

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