Speaker 1: I'll get our team. Welcome to another installment of the
Speaker 1: Bloody You Project. It's Craig, Anthony Harper, Tiffany and Cook.
Speaker 1: It's the phrases. We'll get to them in a moment.
Speaker 1: But the world Traveler, the girl who's been globe trotting
Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks and just neglecting Fatty
Speaker 1: Harps in the You projects selfishly all about her spiritual
Speaker 1: journey and her quest in far away lands. It's back
Speaker 1: kind tiff High Harps.
Speaker 2: You know my biggest regret. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: said a big enough goodbye because I'm different to the
Speaker 2: person who left and she's never coming back.
Speaker 1: Wow, what part of you have you left behind? This
Speaker 1: is good. This is a philosophical start.
Speaker 2: I left a lot behind.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: We actually did a ritual where we burned what no
Speaker 2: longer served us in a ritual on the mountain. We
Speaker 2: left it on the mountain. Oh, I've got goosebumps as
Speaker 2: I say.
Speaker 1: That now without divulging, you know, any thing too personal,
Speaker 1: But fuck it, We're all families, so divulge away. And
Speaker 1: if you're uncomfortable sharing, still share because it makes for
Speaker 1: a good podcast. What tell us maybe one thing that
Speaker 1: you needed to let go of or stop doing or
Speaker 1: fucking ditch out of your emotional, bloody bag of tricks.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you too. I'll tell you two of the
Speaker 2: things that I that I wrote down that I let
Speaker 2: go on the mountain, and that was what Number one
Speaker 2: was shame and number two was the need for everybody
Speaker 2: else to believe in me. And I reckon they're too
Speaker 2: that have really had a lot of impact on me.
Speaker 2: It was quite crazy, you know, the moment just before
Speaker 2: I did it. I didn't plan this, but I I
Speaker 2: had a moment where I had gratitude for those things
Speaker 2: and whatever their purpose was up until the point of going,
Speaker 2: I don't need them anymore. So it was big goosebumps.
Speaker 2: There was lots of tears for everybody.
Speaker 1: Well, that's bloody amazing.
Speaker 2: And I brought some of the mountain back with me
Speaker 2: in my suitcase.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw a bit of a post. I don't
Speaker 1: know that that's totally legal. I don't know that i'd
Speaker 1: be putting that on public display. I'm not sure that
Speaker 1: you're allowed to bring back organic material from the other
Speaker 1: side of the world. I'm no bloody you know, international
Speaker 1: whatever they are those blokes at those ladies at the airport.
Speaker 1: But anyway, you and I are going to have a
Speaker 1: big chat. We might do a whole episode and debrief
Speaker 1: your trip and talk about you know, breaking down and
Speaker 1: breaking through like breakups, breakdowns and breakthroughs, some of the
Speaker 1: best breaks of all time. So let me introduce our guests.
Speaker 1: So Jan and I and Fraser have been friends of
Speaker 1: mine for a very long time. Well, I won't do
Speaker 1: too much of an intro because you'll get to know
Speaker 1: them as we talk. But some of you already know
Speaker 1: them because one you we've got a lot of listeners
Speaker 1: that listen to this that actually personally know them. Two
Speaker 1: they've already been on the shows, but it was a
Speaker 1: very long time ago. I'll find out minute, maybe four
Speaker 1: or five years ago. But the rest of you are
Speaker 1: going to meet them now. So I'm really happy to
Speaker 1: welcome back to the podcast. We'll start with the chatty one,
Speaker 1: the super chatty one. We'll start with Jan because otherwise
Speaker 1: she'll talk over the top of Aean like the dominatrix
Speaker 1: that she is. Hello, Jenny, Dot's forget all.
Speaker 3: About me, because I'm far more interested in what Tiff
Speaker 3: has to say. I think that sounded wonderful, Tiff. I
Speaker 3: want to know what you're burnt, but I want to
Speaker 3: know in detail. You've got to do it.
Speaker 4: You want to do a podcast on that.
Speaker 1: Gosh, yeah, she does. Well it's like I've seen, isn't
Speaker 1: it interesting? Jenny? Hello, Hello, Ian. We'll say hello to
Speaker 1: you mate before we bet.
Speaker 5: I am here, I am here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we know you're here now. You two hit
Speaker 1: momentary fame the other day when we had coffee. Monday.
Speaker 1: We're recording this Monday? Was it last Monday? We did
Speaker 1: coffee Jenny Friday, Friday morning, Oh Friday, just gone, What
Speaker 1: the fuck do I know? So three days ago. By
Speaker 1: the way, this is a swearing podcast, so I feel
Speaker 1: free to open the swearing door. There is no swear jar.
Speaker 1: In fact, you have to put two bucks in and
Speaker 1: if you don't swear through the podcast, it's something of
Speaker 1: a different concept. But we met on Friday, that is correct,
Speaker 1: Friday morning. We had a coffee and I had a
Speaker 1: chat with you. If you don't follow me on Facebook, folks,
Speaker 1: where you can either follow me or momentarily follow me,
Speaker 1: go and have a look on my personal page. And
Speaker 1: there's already seven over seven thousand people that have had
Speaker 1: a bit of a squizz at Jan and E and
Speaker 1: having a chat to me over the bloody morning coffee table,
Speaker 1: and it was so interesting and I got I literally
Speaker 1: got emails and messages and dms from people going, you've
Speaker 1: got to get them on the show, and I went, well,
Speaker 1: they've already been on the show, but we'll get them back.
Speaker 1: What is it like to you, Jan, to think that
Speaker 1: seven thousand plus people listen to you to chat like,
Speaker 1: isn't it a weird age that we live in?
Speaker 4: To tell me about it?
Speaker 3: I can't believe it. I mean.
Speaker 4: I was a bit concerned that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Well, when I saw my sister.
Speaker 3: Later in the day, I said, look, we had coffee
Speaker 3: with Craig Harper and look we had she said, oh god,
Speaker 3: you're you're you know, you're a big sort of boring.
Speaker 4: Is that all you talked about?
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 3: You go? I thought, you know, And then I got
Speaker 3: the text from you telling me, you know, six five
Speaker 3: of all I think it was only five thousand people
Speaker 3: at that stage had tuned into us, And I said,
Speaker 3: good grief, look at this goodness? So yes, isn't it
Speaker 3: a weird age within within within.
Speaker 1: Which we live, Jenny, when you grew up like you
Speaker 1: and you and Frase everyone I call ian phrase, But
Speaker 1: so if I if I forget to say, but you
Speaker 1: and Frase grew up like you went to school in
Speaker 1: the forties, right, the nineteen forties. Now we're in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenties.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to throw you under the bus, but
Speaker 1: you're both old as fuck. I think that's not a
Speaker 1: state secret. Could you do you ever have imagined in
Speaker 1: when you guys were teenagers what was going on in
Speaker 1: the world that you would be like talking like even
Speaker 1: now to a bloke that you can see and hear
Speaker 1: on a computer. I mean, I could be in New York.
Speaker 1: I happened to be in Hampton. But how crazy is
Speaker 1: it that from where you came to what the world
Speaker 1: is now?
Speaker 3: I know, it really is quite unbelievable, isn't it. Like
Speaker 3: I don't know whether like it's just an example. Like
Speaker 3: I remember when my mother died and you know, I
Speaker 3: did the eulogy, and you know, we were talking about
Speaker 3: and I said, you know, she'd lived through the Depression,
Speaker 3: she'd lived through tours. Try to compare that now with
Speaker 3: well wars of course, But just the example of the
Speaker 3: technical of the technical age is technicological era in which
Speaker 3: we live.
Speaker 4: Like my friend Rosie lives in London.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to her face timed her the other night,
Speaker 3: like it's been chatting, like she's in the next doorhouse,
Speaker 3: so I know exactly what you're saying. It's extraordinary and
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I can actually see you and
Speaker 3: tip and you know, I think it's it is quite well.
Speaker 4: I'd like to.
Speaker 3: Think that I'm reasonably or literally say talk about blood
Speaker 3: its And then we struggle to get onto the podcast today,
Speaker 3: but generally we're all right, but put anything wrong, absolutely
Speaker 3: cletely stuffed, like I look at them and think, well
Speaker 3: that's it. I've got no idea. I've got no idea,
Speaker 3: And then Ian will say, well fuck, do I know
Speaker 3: you know that's what he usually says sometimes standard you know,
Speaker 3: so yes, extraordinary.
Speaker 1: What do you phrase? Can you tell us about? So
Speaker 1: you're eighty six, she said the day when we did
Speaker 1: our little video. So am I guessing you were born
Speaker 1: in like what nineteen thirty seven or eight or something?
Speaker 5: Thirty eight great nine thirty eight eight?
Speaker 1: Could you tell us a little bit about growing up
Speaker 1: in the late thirties and forties, Like, what do you
Speaker 1: remember from your childhood?
Speaker 6: Well, the first thing I can remember, you know, apart
Speaker 6: from being in a pusher, and I can remember that,
Speaker 6: you know, a parents taking us on the holidays. But
Speaker 6: my everlasting memory around that time, around the time of
Speaker 6: probably around nineteen forty two, forty one forty two, was
Speaker 6: when the war had started, and how my parents were
Speaker 6: billiting American marines. So we had all these Yanks, you know,
Speaker 6: staying in the house, sleeping on the floor and sleeping
Speaker 6: here and sleeping there. And the other thing I can
Speaker 6: remember is we had blackouts because I think the fear
Speaker 6: was that German planes were going to come over or
Speaker 6: Japanese planes are going to come over and vomits. So
Speaker 6: cars were driving around with their lights sort of didn't
Speaker 6: and blacked out. Now that's probably hard for young people
Speaker 6: today to sort of think back to that era, but
Speaker 6: they were my first memories. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, do you remember what school was like?
Speaker 1: Praise? Do you remember? Because you went to obviously school
Speaker 1: in the forties and fifties, and I know that grade
Speaker 1: three was the best four years of your life. But
Speaker 1: do you remember do you remember going to school and
Speaker 1: what that was like, because it's vastly different now.
Speaker 5: Absolutely yeah, I didn't. Really.
Speaker 6: I wasn't a good student, but I enjoyed going to
Speaker 6: school because going to school, I mean you met all
Speaker 6: your friends. You know, you could muck around and you
Speaker 6: can do this, and we did a lot of mucking
Speaker 6: around and gotten a lot of trouble.
Speaker 5: But I suppose in retrospect, I did enjoy.
Speaker 6: The school of years, even though you know, I left
Speaker 6: school a four year or a year.
Speaker 5: Alone, so I didn't go on there. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 1: Were you an academic, Jenny, Were you a little bit
Speaker 1: more studious than your offsider?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Look, I might have been.
Speaker 3: I mean I grew up in an Irish Catholic family,
Speaker 3: and I went to a Catholic school and Catholic high school.
Speaker 3: I left school at when I was fifteen, going on sixteen,
Speaker 3: in year ten, which was then.
Speaker 4: Like Form four for me, because my father said.
Speaker 3: Well, girls don't need an education because they just get married.
Speaker 3: So you know that's good, so my must i've met.
Speaker 3: I always did feel that after a while a bit
Speaker 3: sort of left out, and that's how I went back
Speaker 3: to school.
Speaker 4: I went back to.
Speaker 3: School and did my VC when I was forty went
Speaker 3: to university, which was pretty terrific really for me then.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I didn't really aim to go
Speaker 3: to university. I just wanted to do Year twelve because
Speaker 3: I needed to sort of think I had that under
Speaker 3: my that I'm when I felt more confident. That sounds silly,
Speaker 3: it doesn't it, But honestly, it was the best thing
Speaker 3: I ever did.
Speaker 4: It was wonderful. I loved it.
Speaker 1: How old were you when you did Year twelve?
Speaker 3: Forty?
Speaker 1: That's amazing? And so did you go to school, like
Speaker 1: did you go and sit with a seventeen year old?
Speaker 4: Or I went to No?
Speaker 3: No, I went to adult education, right, and that was
Speaker 3: just a class with people like me. Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: a couple of us went on to university.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. And what did you study at yunie?
Speaker 4: I had an arts degree. I did art.
Speaker 3: I majored in English and history.
Speaker 1: Well you've always been a performer and something of a
Speaker 1: thespian because you still do you still do voiceover work?
Speaker 1: Or no?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, very available? Anytime?
Speaker 3: Got me think?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Could you could you do a bit of an impromptu
Speaker 1: promo for the you project? Just anything that comes to mind,
Speaker 1: and then you know, just send me the bill.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I think there's one. Uh there was, Oh dear,
Speaker 3: there there was one of.
Speaker 4: I've got one coming on here, I think soon.
Speaker 3: And the bust of the mirror because the young man
Speaker 3: was wanting to buy a car or something.
Speaker 7: Mirror, mirror on the wall, you know what one? And
Speaker 7: I said, oh, dear, you know the room, the not
Speaker 7: the room, the verse. The verse needs work, dear, now
Speaker 7: what well you know, yes, I suppose you could do that.
Speaker 4: It was that sort of voice, like.
Speaker 3: So I do.
Speaker 4: I do find that if not putting.
Speaker 3: Myself in a home or doing aged care in some
Speaker 3: form or other.
Speaker 4: Characters.
Speaker 3: I've got quite a few good characters.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do. And
Speaker 1: when did you When was the first time you did
Speaker 1: anything on Telly on Australia? What was it?
Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty four?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was one and I was one?
Speaker 1: And what did you do in it? What did you get? Tiff?
Speaker 1: Was just a thought, what did you do in nine
Speaker 1: n sixty four on television?
Speaker 3: I said, on in Melbourne tonight? Wow, Graham Kennedy is
Speaker 3: in Melbourne tonight, Yes, wow?
Speaker 1: And from first, if you wouldn't know this, but in
Speaker 1: Melbourne tonight was probably the biggest show in well definitely
Speaker 1: in Melbourne, in Victoria, and it was a what do
Speaker 1: they call it, Jenny, Do they call it a variety show?
Speaker 4: Yes, the variety Show.
Speaker 3: And it was live and it went on at nine
Speaker 3: thirty every night of Monday to Friday. And it was
Speaker 3: headed up by a wonderful fellow called Graham Kennedy who
Speaker 3: was just just brilliant, just brilliant. And you probably remember
Speaker 3: Bert Newton, would you remember that night? Yeah, well Bert
Speaker 3: just recently died. Well Bert was on that at the
Speaker 3: same time. So Bert and I were a similar age
Speaker 3: and we were well he'd started long before me because
Speaker 3: he used to do a lot of radio.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's where I started. Nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 3: I've got it, you know where it tells you. You
Speaker 3: know that that's how long you've been in love, you know,
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: Four, So you've been you've been in entertainment, like professionally
Speaker 1: for this would be your sixtieth year, twenty twenty four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you remember the song that you sang?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: I remember the very first song I sang was the
Speaker 3: trolley song. Judy Garland very much musical theater.
Speaker 1: Am I cheek enough to ask for just one or
Speaker 1: two lines?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: God, that's going a bit far in my high starched
Speaker 3: collar and my high topped boots and my hair piled
Speaker 3: high upon my head. There you go.
Speaker 1: I tell you what typ moment for me here? That
Speaker 1: is so fucking good. If there's our promo, there's our promo.
Speaker 1: I think we need a type song. I might have
Speaker 1: to write a song, and we might need to get
Speaker 1: Janders yes a phrase phrase. I want to know what
Speaker 1: was your first car and how much did you pay
Speaker 1: for it?
Speaker 6: First car was an MG at TC Wow. I wish
Speaker 6: I still had it. It was black green interior. It
Speaker 6: was a terrible thing to dry. Were the first MG
Speaker 6: sports car that was built straight after the Second World War,
Speaker 6: and they were sort of glued together with all sorts
Speaker 6: of bits and pieces, terrible breaks, terrible steering.
Speaker 5: They're worth of fortune.
Speaker 6: Now you know a good one you'll pay probably seventy
Speaker 6: eighty ninety grand for But that was my first car,
Speaker 6: and I.
Speaker 1: Remember you remember? Do you remember what you paid for it?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: I probably paid about I think it was two hundred
Speaker 6: and twenty pounds From.
Speaker 1: Memory was that second hand on you.
Speaker 6: That was secondhand, and that was when I was, when
Speaker 6: I just turned eighteen, So what's that thirty eight fifty six?
Speaker 6: And of course the cap breaking down. And in those days,
Speaker 6: you know, all kids like my age, we all had
Speaker 6: cars and they're all old bombs, but we all learned
Speaker 6: a lot about mechanics, you know, how to fix things,
Speaker 6: because if you didn't learn, you know, your car would
Speaker 6: break down and you couldn't fix anything. We're fucking around
Speaker 6: with carburettors and changing points in the distributor, and these
Speaker 6: days kids wouldn't know what points and carburettors even are,
Speaker 6: changing wheels and so you know, I had a lot
Speaker 6: of fun out of that car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. And Jenny, do you remember, did you two?
Speaker 1: Was the first house that you owned once you'd gotten married,
Speaker 1: or did one of you buy property before he got Well?
Speaker 1: How old were you when you got married and when
Speaker 1: did you have your first When did you buy your
Speaker 1: first time?
Speaker 3: Well, it was in nineteen sixty seven and I was
Speaker 3: twenty seven, and we didn't buy a house until nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy three. So we lived in a flat up first
Speaker 3: of all, and then we had this weird idea that
Speaker 3: we were going to build a house, and we were
Speaker 3: going to build it in Mount Eliza, and Ian worked in.
Speaker 4: Where you Blackburn, and so.
Speaker 3: We thought, oh, look we'll rent in Mount Eliza to
Speaker 3: make sure that you know we're okay with it. Thank
Speaker 3: god we did.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 3: We didn't last very long in Mount Eliza and we
Speaker 3: sold it sold at the block and we bought a
Speaker 3: house then further into closer to town, into bo Morris.
Speaker 1: Wow, can I be rude? How much did you pay
Speaker 1: for your first house in nineteen seventy three?
Speaker 3: Forty thousand dollars?
Speaker 4: And I, yeah, I mech it.
Speaker 3: We've often talked about it, but I'm quite sert that
Speaker 3: interest rape when were seventeen percent?
Speaker 4: I was terrible, wasn't it?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 1: I remember I moved to Tazzy when I was five
Speaker 1: or six years old, son sixty eight, and Mum and
Speaker 1: Dad bought a house in Linda's Barn on what was
Speaker 1: then called Main Road. It's now called East Durwin Highway,
Speaker 1: I think. And this house, which overlooked the Derwent River,
Speaker 1: cost eleven thousand dollars and I thought, oh my, how
Speaker 1: rich are we that we can buy a house. I
Speaker 1: remember thinking I didn't really understand what even one thousand
Speaker 1: dollars meant, but that our house cost eleven thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking, my Mum and dad, we must
Speaker 1: be rich because look at what we're buying. Is it
Speaker 1: like you think, what's that's a good dinner now? Eleven
Speaker 1: thousand dollars? Just a few people? Well, not really, but
Speaker 1: not far from it?
Speaker 5: Can I just interrupt there?
Speaker 6: With the living in Matalizer, we decided early on that
Speaker 6: we were going to buy a block of land and build,
Speaker 6: and we did. We bought a three quarter two thirds
Speaker 6: of an acre block, lovely block up at the top
Speaker 6: of the hill, got a house designs. Didn't like the designs,
Speaker 6: so I threw a friend designed the place for a
Speaker 6: house myself. Didn't all work out anyhow. I bought an
Speaker 6: old house because we decided we'd use old timbers on
Speaker 6: old bricks. I bought a house in Brighton. They were Reckon,
Speaker 6: which was made of old what they called black Hawthor bricks,
Speaker 6: which are those beautiful old brown black spots in them.
Speaker 5: See them around the customer.
Speaker 6: But a lot of the brick companies have tried to
Speaker 6: duplicate them. But the original ones are terrific. Anyhow, I
Speaker 6: bought all these blocks. I had about twenty thousand bricks,
Speaker 6: got them all moved down to a block a matallizer
Speaker 6: sat there. We decided that it was too far and
Speaker 6: we had to sell, so I had to get rid
Speaker 6: of the bricks.
Speaker 5: Didn't know what to do.
Speaker 6: I was down at Portsy one day valuing a customer's
Speaker 6: boat of the day, went for a bit of a drive,
Speaker 6: saw a block of land. Thought that's interesting. Bought the block,
Speaker 6: shifted all of bricks down there, and built a house
Speaker 6: in Portsy, which we had for thirty something years.
Speaker 3: How much you pay for that block?
Speaker 5: Then the block in Portsy? I think I paid. God,
Speaker 5: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Jan isn't that interesting because it was wasn't much?
Speaker 6: No, it was about four four thousand.
Speaker 5: I think it's about four grand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 5: And we built this.
Speaker 6: I designed the house copy copying a lot of a
Speaker 6: friend's house, and I subcontracted the whole thing and used
Speaker 6: old timbers. We used the old timbers out of the
Speaker 6: jam factory. In my businesses, I had a Tony Wheel
Speaker 6: and was one of my clients and in the w
Speaker 6: record wheel in the wreckord and I said to Tony,
Speaker 6: I said, look, I'm looking for some big timber beams
Speaker 6: to use for the roof beams. He said, oh yeah,
Speaker 6: I'll get back to you, and I heard nothing. That
Speaker 6: about a month later he said, look, we just wreckon
Speaker 6: parts of the jam factory and we've got all these
Speaker 6: big eleven by four that's eleven inches by four inches beams.
Speaker 6: You better get your trailer and go there and grab them.
Speaker 6: So I did, and we used those in the house.
Speaker 6: I bought the roof of an old cat church in
Speaker 6: Richmond which had beautiful slate on it, and I got
Speaker 6: all that slate and got an old guy who was
Speaker 6: really an expert to lay it all on the floor.
Speaker 6: So the whole floor of the house it was. What
Speaker 6: I built was on a concrete slab and we used
Speaker 6: the slate to pay.
Speaker 5: The whole house was fantastic.
Speaker 6: So you know that that sort of all started at
Speaker 6: the Mountaalizer Adventure.
Speaker 1: That house a block of land in Portsy for four grand.
Speaker 1: That's the locket, like it depends where it is, but
Speaker 1: just a block of land is going to be a
Speaker 1: million bucks or more down there. I want you went there.
Speaker 5: I think you went there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I went there. I remember it
Speaker 1: was beautiful. All right, Let's let's fast forward a little bit.
Speaker 1: This is a dumb question, but it's not. It's kind
Speaker 1: of so. It's my birthday the other day and I
Speaker 1: turned sixty one, right, and I don't like for me.
Speaker 1: It feels so strange to say that, because you know,
Speaker 1: like this is another dumb thing. But I've only ever
Speaker 1: been me, so I've never felt what it's like to
Speaker 1: be anyone else, but like mentally, emotionally, physically, socially. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I thought I would feel like at
Speaker 1: sixty one, but I definitely I definitely don't feel my
Speaker 1: age right. And that's not ego or anything. I just
Speaker 1: don't know what I thought I would feel like at
Speaker 1: sixty one. But I still feel like my brain is
Speaker 1: the same as when I was forty, maybe even better.
Speaker 1: I still have great energy, I still train every day.
Speaker 1: I'm still excited about life. I'm still ambitious, I've still
Speaker 1: got purpose, I've got heaps of shit to look forward to.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful. What does it feel like? Let's start with you, Janny.
Speaker 1: What does it feel like to be in your eighties? Like,
Speaker 1: did you have any expectation, like do you. I know
Speaker 1: it's just a number, but it's allo. I'm more than that.
Speaker 1: It's a physiological reality of aging. How do you feel.
Speaker 3: Good? I mean I would say the same as you.
Speaker 3: I reckon, I'm just as good as I always was,
Speaker 3: you know, on the floor at Harper's there and bluff
Speaker 3: puff right, I reckon, I can still do it, do it.
Speaker 4: Although the knees creak.
Speaker 3: A bit, but that's that's nothing.
Speaker 4: No, I agree with you.
Speaker 3: It's I don't know that I would feel that I
Speaker 3: feel any different. I mean, I mean, I still, you know,
Speaker 3: love life. I'm still get excited. I'm still probably a
Speaker 3: bit ambitious and would love to do more voice. You know,
Speaker 3: they all look at her and you know, think god,
Speaker 3: you know, she's been around for so long. But then
Speaker 3: I never think about that, you know, I think, well
Speaker 3: I could have done that, you know.
Speaker 1: So I feel like you, yeah, do you Now? I
Speaker 1: just want to talk a little bit about the workout stuff,
Speaker 1: because obviously I'm me, and so everyone knows my background
Speaker 1: and everyone knows I'm kind of the exercise bloke. Call
Speaker 1: that's part of who I am. Anyway, and we did
Speaker 1: talk about it on the video the other day, but
Speaker 1: rays we spoke about the fact that let's talk about you.
Speaker 1: So you do when you can, you do when the
Speaker 1: weather's right. You do stand up paddle board twice a week.
Speaker 1: You do five and a half CA's stand up paddle
Speaker 1: board twice a week to the You ride your bike.
Speaker 1: You get out on your bike for about three quarters
Speaker 1: an hour several times a week, and you go to
Speaker 1: the gym and you split your body. You train up
Speaker 1: a body one day and lower body than next. Did
Speaker 1: I miss anything out.
Speaker 6: No, I think that's pretty much it, Craig, that's the
Speaker 6: exercise Rosime.
Speaker 1: And I remember in the old days, not even that,
Speaker 1: even when you're in your mid seventies. I remember one
Speaker 1: day you're doing lap pool down with nearly one hundred
Speaker 1: kilos and you were seventy four or seventy five and
Speaker 1: you were lifting almost one hundred kilos or maybe even
Speaker 1: one hundred. How much can you lap pull down these days?
Speaker 1: At eighty six?
Speaker 6: I was doing them yesterday. Actually, I think I was
Speaker 6: using about seventy that's seventy that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Can you still do chin ups?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeahs. Chune ups have always been my favorite. I can
Speaker 6: do I do twenty six chins. I do a dozen,
Speaker 6: then I have a wrist. I do eight, and I
Speaker 6: have a wrist, and then I can do another six.
Speaker 5: You do hang on, hang on, hang on now, I'm
Speaker 5: not kidding you.
Speaker 7: No, I know you don't think I've seen you a
Speaker 7: film of him doing them in the Danny Frawley gym.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of you when.
Speaker 3: I said, well, he's the old block of a eighty
Speaker 3: something he's doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you got me covered. That's fucking embarrassing. I'm
Speaker 1: going to have to go to room of mirrors and
Speaker 1: have a good hard look at myself.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have men it tif you better cut that better?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, let's just for my self esteem otherwise on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you are still on your first set of chin ups?
Speaker 1: You do twelve, mate.
Speaker 6: I can do twelve it look to be honest. The
Speaker 6: last couple. You know, I struggle a bit. No, I
Speaker 6: don't get the bar of the chin. You know, probably
Speaker 6: get it to before we're head or something like that,
Speaker 6: but you know it is a chin.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was going to invite you in for a workout,
Speaker 1: but you can stay the fuck away with your twelve chins.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm struggling at the moment because I heard my shoulder.
Speaker 6: When I was screing in New Zealand back in August,
Speaker 6: I had a bit of a I've stuffed up my
Speaker 6: left shoulder, so I hadn't done chins and I just
Speaker 6: I thought yesterday I better.
Speaker 5: Have a bit of a try.
Speaker 6: So I got half a dozen out and it started
Speaker 6: to hurt a bit, so I thought I'd better stop.
Speaker 1: You might look after that. And also, when you're riding
Speaker 1: out on the road, are you riding a mountain bike,
Speaker 1: you're riding a road bike. What are you riding now?
Speaker 6: I ride a mountain bike, Craig. And you know, as
Speaker 6: I said, I don't go out for long. I said
Speaker 6: three quarts of earlier the day I was out for
Speaker 6: million hour a day.
Speaker 5: Actually, but.
Speaker 6: I haven't met up in the hills for a while.
Speaker 6: When I say we're a couple of mates and a
Speaker 6: son Jonathan, we're very keen mountain bike riders up in
Speaker 6: the hills.
Speaker 5: And in Melbourne you've got Listerfield Park, which is from here.
Speaker 6: It's only three quarters of an hour away and that's
Speaker 6: where they had the Commonwealth mountain Bike competition. So there's
Speaker 6: still a course there that they used, which is quite challenging.
Speaker 6: So you know, that's that's a real workout on the
Speaker 6: mountain bike up there.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine, and I will the imagine because
Speaker 1: I'm not going up there, Janny, can I tell you?
Speaker 6: Sorry Cratis, let me interrupt. One day I was talking
Speaker 6: to the crab Viking and he said, oh, i'd like
Speaker 6: to he'd be writing down at his property and I
Speaker 6: was talking abouts. I said, well, why don't you come up?
Speaker 6: And he came up with us and we rode around,
Speaker 6: and I must admit I did boot him on the hills.
Speaker 6: He was even struggling on some of those steep hills,
Speaker 6: which was embarrassing.
Speaker 5: Sorry interrupted, That is noted, that's fucking.
Speaker 1: He has told me that story with great humility and
Speaker 1: respect for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he told me, well, the crab, of course,
Speaker 1: everyone is my training partner, who is a was a
Speaker 1: world class professional bodybuilder, also quite fit, but not in
Speaker 1: the end Fraser category. Janny, we spoke about it the
Speaker 1: other day. But just tell my listeners who didn't hear,
Speaker 1: which would be most of them, what your exercise regime
Speaker 1: looks like these days? Please?
Speaker 3: Well, I do I do like to lift weights. So
Speaker 3: I always think that's very important in our lives, particularly
Speaker 3: as we get older. So I do that three times
Speaker 3: a week. I train with a friend one day and
Speaker 3: I go to the gym another two times. And I
Speaker 3: also I do a boxing still. I love to box
Speaker 3: with them step tives of box the two I love
Speaker 3: I love It, I love it and one about harvest
Speaker 3: trainers Silvio Knata. I still box with Silk and I
Speaker 3: don't run anymore, but I like to. I do do
Speaker 3: a lot of walking. And we've got a dog, so
Speaker 3: you know, Peg and I do a lot of walking together,
Speaker 3: and she's old enough now to do the rams and
Speaker 3: stairs with me, and we go a doun lucky to
Speaker 3: be near the beach, and of course it's a fabulous
Speaker 3: training ground, as you know, you know, doing a bit
Speaker 3: of sand walking, doing a bit of uphill on the ramps,
Speaker 3: and you know, getting your heart rate up. So that's
Speaker 3: that's a very important part of what I do as well.
Speaker 3: But so like and you know, I usually try to
Speaker 3: do something every day. I might have a day off,
Speaker 3: but you know, I've usually got usually do something every day.
Speaker 1: And what I haven't mentioned this episode anyway, is that
Speaker 1: a long, long time ago. You were a client at Harper's,
Speaker 1: coming in Harpers being my one of my gyms or
Speaker 1: my gym's back in the day, everyone.
Speaker 3: Budge of trainers and I love five dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah really with the day budget.
Speaker 4: Trainer five bucks.
Speaker 3: It was each of us.
Speaker 1: Yep, really, yes, yes, a good thing. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I knew that.
Speaker 4: You stopped us.
Speaker 3: I think we then we used to We used to
Speaker 3: start off in the gym do emb down in Hampton Street.
Speaker 4: Eighty eight.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about groups right? It was a group, yes,
Speaker 1: oh yeah group. Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking cheapest. But but
Speaker 1: at one stage I can't remember when you probably can
Speaker 1: better than me. But I think you and I had
Speaker 1: a conversation and you said something like I wish I
Speaker 1: was or if I was younger, I would have become
Speaker 1: a trainer, and you were in your fifties maybe at
Speaker 1: that stage. And then did I say, we'll go and
Speaker 1: get qualified and then you can work work with me.
Speaker 1: Did it go something like that?
Speaker 3: It went very similarly, yes, yes, yes, yes, And I
Speaker 3: came to you and said, look, I've done all the
Speaker 3: training now and I just wonder if you'd mind if
Speaker 3: I did my work experience here and that was in
Speaker 3: Bluff Road, and God, I loved it, loved it, loved it,
Speaker 3: loved your training, loved it the whole thing.
Speaker 4: The whole thing.
Speaker 3: I loved it all and never looked back. Really with
Speaker 3: great moved in at Then I became a trainer, a
Speaker 3: proper trainer. Then I had a client and said, do
Speaker 3: you think I can bring I've got a client. I've
Speaker 3: got a friend who'd liked to train. Is that all
Speaker 3: right if I bring her? And you said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's fine, you bring her along.
Speaker 1: At what age did you start training people professionally at
Speaker 1: the first time.
Speaker 3: I was fifty Craig.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I thought you were a little bit older.
Speaker 1: But that's amazing. Still. So if you're out there and
Speaker 1: you're thinking I might become a trainer, I might become anything,
Speaker 1: and I might. You know, Jenny did Year twelve at forty,
Speaker 1: she did, she did UNI after that. She became a
Speaker 1: trainer in her fifties. And when did you stop training people?
Speaker 1: Because it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 3: Well, only COVID stopped us all in our tracks, really,
Speaker 3: but i'd actually I was actually just training A few
Speaker 3: people are in their homes then so actually i'd actually
Speaker 3: sort of gone off from the gym floor, so I
Speaker 3: wasn't sort of training, And then I gave all my
Speaker 3: clients to a friend, and then I just the few
Speaker 3: that I could help at home. You know that's worked well,
Speaker 3: you know until you know COVID hitch and sort of
Speaker 3: stopped to fit things really didn't it well?
Speaker 1: I did put the brakes on a lot of things
Speaker 1: going on in the world I want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about. So in the health wellness space, now this
Speaker 1: is not new, but it's just becoming more known. I
Speaker 1: think like there's a lot more awareness around the idea
Speaker 1: of like when we used to talk about what makes
Speaker 1: people healthy, wo'd go, you know, good food, exercise, not
Speaker 1: too much booze, you know, a sleep, like, a good lifestyle,
Speaker 1: all that, And now we know that like social connection, belonging,
Speaker 1: having purpose, having a reason, all these things that are
Speaker 1: not you know, food, exercise, booze related, but more about
Speaker 1: emotion and psychology. Am I love? Do I have connection?
Speaker 1: Do I belong to a group? Does anyone give a
Speaker 1: fuck about me? Do I have something to do today that?
Speaker 1: Do I have something of value and purpose to do?
Speaker 1: Tell me about your thoughts either one of you around,
Speaker 1: because I know you are both very busy and you
Speaker 1: have great social lives and you're still ticking boxes and
Speaker 1: achieving things and have a focus.
Speaker 3: We have three kids who are really the nastest people
Speaker 3: you could ever wish to meet, and then they're in
Speaker 3: turn married with families, so we have a really great
Speaker 3: relationship with the family, with our grandchildren and you know,
Speaker 3: with the partners, etc. So I do think that's sort
Speaker 3: of a starting point for us, because that's really very important.
Speaker 3: We just seem to have that wonderful connection kids coming
Speaker 3: in and out, kids coming to stay, grandchildren coming to
Speaker 3: stay or something. But you know, that's that's very important.
Speaker 3: But then on the other hand, then it's the sort
Speaker 3: of the other connection, and we've we are lucky. We've
Speaker 3: got a lovely group of friends and that you know
Speaker 3: that we see you know, we still have people for
Speaker 3: dinner or we go there, or you know, we meet
Speaker 3: out do you know, meets people for lunch or something.
Speaker 3: And I've got a lot of lovely group of friends
Speaker 3: that I girlfriends, you know, that that I walk with
Speaker 3: or that I have coffee with. And it's look wonderful,
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 1: What about you old fella. Have you got any you
Speaker 1: I think you just seem busy, just doing shit all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 6: Well, I think over the years, exercises probably almost dominated
Speaker 6: my life. I can remember, you know, in the early
Speaker 6: days of the Surf Club, you know, going back when
Speaker 6: I was eighteen twenty five, you know, I used to
Speaker 6: do a favorite of running. And then when I when
Speaker 6: I have the various business businesses, I'd always put aside
Speaker 6: probably an hour a day or close to it to exercise.
Speaker 6: I just say to the staff, look, I'm going for
Speaker 6: a run. We had we had our business was out
Speaker 6: in Blackburn on stage, I'd run around the Blackburn Lake
Speaker 6: and the s and then when we were down at
Speaker 6: the Pattison River, you know, I'd run down to the
Speaker 6: beach and run along the beach. So I would always
Speaker 6: put aside some time to exercise and think. And I
Speaker 6: still do that. How can I fit something in today?
Speaker 6: What's on today? Look at the diary? When can I
Speaker 6: have time.
Speaker 5: To the gym, go for a bike ride?
Speaker 6: Do there? So I think that's that's been very important
Speaker 6: in my life.
Speaker 1: And You've always been very handy phrase which has been
Speaker 1: handy for some of the harpest stuff. When something breaks
Speaker 1: at your house, are you the guy that Are you
Speaker 1: still the guy that fixes it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah, I really am.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I can fix most things except electrical. I won't touch
Speaker 6: anything electrical for obvious reasons. But you know, charging tests
Speaker 6: and washes and all that sort of stuff. And you know,
Speaker 6: jenneal often say something is not working or broken. I
Speaker 6: can usually fix it.
Speaker 1: Now, Jenny, I know you love training with Silvio, who
Speaker 1: also used to be a Harperst trainer, and you do
Speaker 1: some boxing, but Tiff up there. Not only does Tiff
Speaker 1: do a bit of boxing, but Tiff is actually a
Speaker 1: boxer and has fought in the ring lots of Can
Speaker 1: you see that picture behind her of the boxer on
Speaker 1: the hole, Yeah we can, that's Herrilous. I reckon you
Speaker 1: two girls might have to get together, just you know,
Speaker 1: just a one just cheating behind your trainers back and
Speaker 1: do a session with Tiff Tiff, could we?
Speaker 4: I'd love that.
Speaker 2: Well. I was already gonna ask you to come and
Speaker 2: hang out and have coffee with me because I feel
Speaker 2: envious that Harps and you guys caught up recently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we.
Speaker 3: If you promise to tell me about what you're burnt
Speaker 3: on the mountain.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd love it.
Speaker 3: Lock it in, lock it.
Speaker 1: In, yeah, yeah, that would be good. Hey, well, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you too. I so love catching up with you,
Speaker 1: love having you in my life, even though we don't
Speaker 1: spend enough time together. Thanks for the coffee the other
Speaker 1: day and the chat. And it's funny how I don't
Speaker 1: think you realize because you're so both grounded, down to
Speaker 1: earth humble. You know, people are so inspired by you,
Speaker 1: and I know you don't feel inspirational because it's just
Speaker 1: you just doing what you do. But without sounding cliche
Speaker 1: or to self helpy, you are really an inspiration because
Speaker 1: you know most people. Firstly, most people don't. This sounds bad,
Speaker 1: but it's just true. The average life expectancy is younger
Speaker 1: than both of you, like I think for women it's
Speaker 1: eighty two in Australia and minutes like eighty And you
Speaker 1: guys look like you're going to be going strong for
Speaker 1: another twenty years. So it's so inspirational. And you know,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming to chat with us on the You Project, Jenny,
Speaker 1: And do you want to leave our listeners with any
Speaker 1: words of I don't know, inspiration or insight can I just.
Speaker 3: Say that thank you for those kind words.
Speaker 4: That's that's really lovely.
Speaker 3: But I don't want anybody to out there to think
Speaker 3: that we're smug or that you know, we think that
Speaker 3: we're better than anybody else. I tell you, okay, and
Speaker 3: every day is a new day. You just story?
Speaker 1: Can you just can you just start again from just
Speaker 1: because it cut out, so just go back to I
Speaker 1: tell you like I tell you.
Speaker 3: Ye. Well, I just wanted to say that I didn't
Speaker 3: want any of your people listening to think that we're
Speaker 3: pains in the art or a bit smug and you
Speaker 3: know that we're we're up ourselves at all, because really
Speaker 3: that's not so. We we treasure every day. We know
Speaker 3: that we're getting to the pointy end, and and you
Speaker 3: know we we we're very aware of that, and each
Speaker 3: day is a new day and we treasure that new day.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. What about you, you old bugger?
Speaker 1: Are you just going to go and fix something now?
Speaker 4: Probably go.
Speaker 6: I'd just like to say anyone that is listening to
Speaker 6: this podcast, if you know you you aren't happy with
Speaker 6: your your business, or your diet or your life regime,
Speaker 6: it's pretty easy to fix, really, is.
Speaker 5: People sort of over complicate things, I think.
Speaker 6: But all you've got to do is is either a
Speaker 6: healthy diet, do some exercise.
Speaker 5: You don't have to be your maniac about it. For
Speaker 5: a walk.
Speaker 6: And you know it's it's so easy, Craig, And you
Speaker 6: know so many people they put all the excuses up.
Speaker 6: You know, I haven't got time and I'm too busy
Speaker 6: and you know whatever, and do something about it.
Speaker 1: Here it is the fucking boom. There's the primo right there.
Speaker 1: We'll say goodbye off there, but for the moment. Jan
Speaker 1: Andy and Tips, thanks for coming on the EU project.