WEBVTT - Hannah Conda Spills The Tea On Her Relationship With Her Father & RuPauls Drag Race

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<v Speaker 1>My dad. He is just an example of somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't understand how anybody could not love their child

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<v Speaker 1>for who they are, Like, Yeah, my dad is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>that person's he's a superhero. He really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to separate bathrooms.

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<v Speaker 3>We would like to acknowledge the Gadigor people of the

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<v Speaker 3>Eora nation, the traditional custodians of this land, and pay

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<v Speaker 3>our respects to the elders.

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<v Speaker 2>Both past and present. I'm Cam Daddo, I'm Ali Daddow.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for this?

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<v Speaker 4>I am Yeah. Pnaconda Hanakonda and you heard it correct

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<v Speaker 4>with a huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Hannakonda has been dazzling audiences around the globe for over

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>She was recently runner up on.

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<v Speaker 3>The critically acclaimed BBC series RuPaul's Drag Race UK versus.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the World. Hannah was representing Australia, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, on a global scale, competing against queens from across

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<v Speaker 4>the world. This was all possible, of course, due to

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<v Speaker 4>her impeccable showing on the stand original series RuPaul's Drag

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<v Speaker 4>Race down Under season two, where Hannah was also a

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<v Speaker 4>runner up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but she's a winner in our She absolutely is

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<v Speaker 3>so a little about Hannah. After conquering the Perth drag scene,

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<v Speaker 3>she took a leap of faith across the Nullybor to

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<v Speaker 3>make her sparkly mark in the big Smoke of Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like a reverse.

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<v Speaker 4>Priscilla. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. She's the only queen to

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<v Speaker 4>ever win both the Rising Star and the Entertainer of

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<v Speaker 4>the Year at the Drag Industry Variety Awards in the

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<v Speaker 4>same year.

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<v Speaker 3>Hannah has produced and performed shows at prominent venues all

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<v Speaker 3>across Australia and now globally, of course, recently dazzling audiences.

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<v Speaker 2>In the UK, the USA and the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got an undying love of the art of drag

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<v Speaker 4>and she it's just seen her flourish into a starlet

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<v Speaker 4>like no other. I love that there's no stopping this

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<v Speaker 4>magical queen as she continues to extend her reign onto

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<v Speaker 4>more stages and of course into more hearts, and I

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<v Speaker 4>have a feeling she's going to step into your heart

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the bathroom, Hannah Conda.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the bathroom, Hannah Conder.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for having that. I'm so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>be in your bathroom. You like my legs, so they

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<v Speaker 1>are sexy, sexy legs.

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<v Speaker 4>His legs have been in heels before when you did

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<v Speaker 4>the Rocky Horpe. It's a show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you have to wear in fact, I might actually

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<v Speaker 3>repost that on my Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone said, what do you do in your dressing room?

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<v Speaker 1>And there as me in my high heels and fish nets,

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<v Speaker 1>feeling but they're good. It's just like it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>nice exercise as well for the legs, like you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're like when I'm wearing heels, I'm in them

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes fourteen hours, so you kind of get your calves

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<v Speaker 1>going and it's all everything aches and hurts. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to see the dogs, honestly, they are disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>You are probably more comfortable, and you could probably run

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<v Speaker 4>in heels better than I could walk in heels. I

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<v Speaker 4>wou'd imagine you're probably.

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<v Speaker 1>In the more than I am. Yes, yeah I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a lot of practice running in heels. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>we also have to like we're dancing in them as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And where when I, you know, started doing drag, I

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<v Speaker 1>was always told we had to wear the big clear

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<v Speaker 1>stripper heels and that's what we trained in for dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like six or seven inches and they're with

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<v Speaker 1>a mandatory shoe for drag dancing.

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<v Speaker 4>Good god.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've got a platform at the front.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeh, yeah, they've got a big platform at the front.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then but they're all clear. They look awful

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<v Speaker 1>and look like I called them the nutbag like peanut

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<v Speaker 1>bag or nutbag shoes because your toes and stockings, like

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<v Speaker 1>they look so gross hanging out at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>a plastic class shoes like sort of dried stuff. Yeah, yeah, gross,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like I hate them, but they were what

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<v Speaker 1>you had to wear, and I ate shit so many times.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh can I swear by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, we're the toilet mate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, good Where all the fun things happen.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of shit that happened the beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>your of your story and connection to drag. How did

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<v Speaker 4>you get into it? Where did you discover it?

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<v Speaker 1>So? I, well, was it? Actually? When I think about

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<v Speaker 1>this quite often, because you know, I've been doing drag

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<v Speaker 1>professionally now for about fifteen years, and I started in

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<v Speaker 1>Perth and but then I but I actually probably dabbled

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<v Speaker 1>when I was like a teenager in high school. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to an all boys Catholic school and we did

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<v Speaker 1>like a play. It was The Lord of the Rings

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<v Speaker 1>in fifteen minutes, okay, and I played Gladriel.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank God?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, which hello? And I remember my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>I we went to an op shop and we bought

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<v Speaker 1>like this white nightgown and this like you know, blonde wig.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I had these soccer balls that my dad

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<v Speaker 1>got from a Rod Stewart concert, because you know how

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<v Speaker 1>Rod Stewart kicks out soccer balls in the concert. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's got like a ton. My dad's a Rod

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<v Speaker 1>Stewart super fan, Like he used to write for the

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<v Speaker 1>Smile of magazine and stuff like it's wild. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>is camp. I love it. But anyway, I use these

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<v Speaker 1>soccer balls as my boobs. And so I was fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>and like I was, you know, dressing up and doing

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<v Speaker 1>I did Gladriel starring role. We'll look into the mirror,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you see? Like it was quite camp, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like I always wanted to eat Cate Blanchett.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I dressed up with you know, a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved dressing up. I had a purple afro wig

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<v Speaker 1>and like little clip clop you know, those plastic two

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<v Speaker 1>dollars shop heels.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we called them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we called them the clip clup shoes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had them as a kid. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always dabbled in the art of dressing up, but

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<v Speaker 1>I only just cemented it when I turned eighteen and

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<v Speaker 1>I started going out and sort of became friends with

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<v Speaker 1>a little gay that had just started doing drag. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when you become friends with someone that starts doing drag,

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<v Speaker 1>you become their bitch. And so I was carrying the

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<v Speaker 1>bags around. Yeah, yeah, carrying the I was the drag bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was carrying their bags, and you know, coming

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<v Speaker 1>to all the shows and standing at the front of

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<v Speaker 1>any props come off, I'd be grabbing them and then

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<v Speaker 1>and their name was Ruby, and they were like, you

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<v Speaker 1>should give drag a go, and I was like, oh, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>too gay for me, not for me. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that. And she's like, no, but you

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<v Speaker 1>did theater and stuff like you would have fun. So

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<v Speaker 1>I said one night, I'll do it one night only

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<v Speaker 1>at the Court's Amateur Drag Night on a Wednesday night. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>was this in w I wa at the court in Perth.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, all right, I'll do it one night.

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<v Speaker 1>So she put me into drag and went up there

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<v Speaker 1>and I did my first number. I did wear My

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<v Speaker 1>Kiss by the Sugar Babes. It's an album track from

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<v Speaker 1>their Thing. But I did the number wear My Kiss

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to tell a guy that I liked him.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was front row of the show. So when

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<v Speaker 1>it said where my Kiss, I went up and I

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<v Speaker 1>kissed him on the cheek. Yeah. Yeah, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>for him and he was like standing there like and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it didn't work out. It didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it did not work out. No, he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was a he was a player, he

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<v Speaker 1>was he was just a tease. He liked the attention

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<v Speaker 1>and anyway, I just you know, that didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>But the drag did. I just fell in love with

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<v Speaker 1>it and was kind of like and it's like an addiction,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest. You know, you start like you buy

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<v Speaker 1>one thing and then you're buying make up, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you got two wigs and three wigs, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was all under my bed in a plastic tub.

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<v Speaker 2>And then hiding there, or it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was hiding there for a little bit. Yeah, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I didn't like, I didn't really know

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<v Speaker 1>how my parents would take it, and so they didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a homo like that did not matter at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but they I thought the dragon might be pushing it

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<v Speaker 1>and anyway, kind of like the more I fell in

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<v Speaker 1>love with it and I started realizing there was ways

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<v Speaker 1>to make money out of it, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I want to do this like and explore it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I spoke to my parents about it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, we don't really understand it, but we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you a year. If you maintain your retail job and

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying you know, paying your way, and you start

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<v Speaker 1>earning money from it, you know, we will support you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did it. In six months. I was working

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, started doing shows, and my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>dad really sort of understood it when they came and

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<v Speaker 1>soare a show, right, And so I invited them to

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<v Speaker 1>come along and then they're like, oh wow, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like we didn't get it, but now we at it

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<v Speaker 1>and we love it. And now you know, fifteen years on,

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<v Speaker 1>they will come to any show that they can. When

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<v Speaker 1>they're here. They love it. Yeah, my grandparents come along.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's nice. I'm very very lucky, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm in a rare camp that I have a

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<v Speaker 1>great supportive network. But yeah, I didn't tell my grandma

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. My grandma and my pop. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell them because I didn't want to kill them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom and dad weren't sure how it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to go. And so just before I moved to Sydney,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd been doing Dragon about four years, five years

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<v Speaker 1>by this point, and I was just about to move

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<v Speaker 1>to Sydney, and I told my Nan and I did

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<v Speaker 1>a little PowerPoint presentation on the computer with photos and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so they could see it. And my Nan

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing she said that was negative was I

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<v Speaker 1>looked fat in address. Thanks Nan. She wasn't lying, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was that. And then she was just disappointed in

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<v Speaker 1>me because she wanted to come to the shows. I

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<v Speaker 1>deprived her of five years of being able to oh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, so it really made me think as well, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I always give people a chance, now, like

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<v Speaker 1>you never know how someone is going to react, and

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<v Speaker 1>the only way you can know that is if you

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<v Speaker 1>give them the chance. It might be negative and it

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<v Speaker 1>might not go the way you want it to, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather them have the decision.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people often surprise you, don't they do They

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<v Speaker 3>oft you make up your mind about what they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that that. I remember when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Were living in the States, friends of ours would often

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<v Speaker 3>say friends of mine would often not invite me out

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<v Speaker 3>when they were going out to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like, oh, you won't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>One day I picked up one of them, I'll go,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? Why don't you ask me? Oh, you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't like it. We'll give me the chance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, get a chance to say no, at least tell me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because I'm feeling like really excluded.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it's that rejection feeling as well, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, oh, well, I'm not important enough to be

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<v Speaker 1>in that, and that can hurt sometimes and maybe influence

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<v Speaker 1>their decision of how they feel about something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a very interesting life lesson that moment

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<v Speaker 1>that I told my grandparents.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they help you? Did Mom and Dad help you

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<v Speaker 4>come up with your stage name? Or was that all you?

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<v Speaker 1>That was all me? So it was well, actually it

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<v Speaker 1>was a drunk irish man. Have you been to Perth?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Cam spent a lot more time. I've only been

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<v Speaker 4>there briefly, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You have been happened there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so when So there's two gay bars in Perth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Court and then there's Connections and they're in

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<v Speaker 1>north Bridge.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so making a connection all the time, Pats.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best place to make connections. But there's the

0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Arts Precinct that runs in between and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>walk from the Court to Connections. It was the migration

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<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday night. You'd start at the amateur Dragon Night

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<v Speaker 1>and then you'd walk down to Connections for what was

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<v Speaker 1>happening on a Wednesday night. Then was the lesbian mud wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it was there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, the most iconic of it. I'm so devastated it's gone.

0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.640
<v Speaker 1>It was just all the incredible lesbians getting their kid

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<v Speaker 1>off and wrestling in pools of mud for money. Wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. So you got So that was the migration.

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<v Speaker 1>And so before I did Drag, we were walking down

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<v Speaker 1>doing our regular Wednesday night migration and this drunk Irish

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<v Speaker 1>man just stumbled up to me. My friends, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you're an anaconda and I was like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>so confused, no context, just a very random comment, and

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<v Speaker 1>we all, being a little bit drunken eighteen, thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was really funny that night, so we just kept calling

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<v Speaker 1>me that. I kept calling me that for the whole night.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when the idea of drag came around, I

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<v Speaker 1>was given the name Rosy Cheeks, but with an exit

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<v Speaker 1>the end. It just didn't feel right. That's yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>is cute. And it came out the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>got when I got drunk, I used to get rosas

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<v Speaker 1>in my cheeks, you know, so I'd have these big

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<v Speaker 1>rosy cheeks, and I was like, it feels a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit hurtful, to be honest. So I was like, why

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<v Speaker 1>can't I be like at a conduct like the guy

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<v Speaker 1>called me And they're like, oh, yeah, that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no Anna, and I was like, actually, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be Anna. I want to be Hannah because

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know, I just felt I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt right, and it just stuck. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been had a conda the whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And does Hannah does Hannah's well Hannah's costumes because

0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.320
<v Speaker 3>clearly You're not in Hannah. Hannah's costumes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a beautiful, glamorous woman on the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is there snake skin part of this?

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<v Speaker 1>But it was there was a lot of that because

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<v Speaker 1>I was quite goffy drag queen when I started, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like dark hair, and I had I did have snake skin.

0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I did a whole photo shit with snakes actually, you know,

0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:37.240
<v Speaker 1>really playing into that snake sort of theme. But then

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<v Speaker 1>as I got older, I just became this like blonde,

0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.920
<v Speaker 1>fairy princess kind of looking thing. I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the complete opposite. And snakes and darkness enter it every

0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.400
<v Speaker 1>now and then, but now it's just very colorful and

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<v Speaker 1>broad and bright and yeah, I don't want to ever

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<v Speaker 1>box myself.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard you have a great asp.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you can't, did you know what? And look? Then

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<v Speaker 1>another reason that I kind of chose Hannah conduct was

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<v Speaker 1>that it's French. Yeah for Big Snake, don't google it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just trust me.

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<v Speaker 4>Your partner's not here today. Tell me what his name is?

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<v Speaker 1>Jack, Jack Jack.

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<v Speaker 4>We do want to talk a little bit about we

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<v Speaker 4>got it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about several relationships.

0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:28.520
<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got to talk about and Hannah Jack Hannah,

0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Jack Hannah. I know, I know, it's as wild talking

0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Meet him as Hannah or how when did you meet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So he was. I met Jack in Sydney. He's

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<v Speaker 1>from England, He's from Newcastles, a Jordie and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>together now seven years. I believe it's bordering like Vergin

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<v Speaker 1>on eight. And he was working at the midnight shift

0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.760
<v Speaker 1>on Oxford Street. I was a bartender and I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing shows and one of the glass years after the show,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, there's a British bartender downstairs and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a crush on you. And at the time there

0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.480
<v Speaker 1>was three of them. And I was going through what

0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I call my hoe face when I moved to Sydney.

0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.800
<v Speaker 1>So I was, you know, sampling all the wares and

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<v Speaker 1>so I went I was like, oh, right, well I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go figure out which one has the crush on me.

0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.040
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so it was like a mystery. I was like, oh,

0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:31.160
<v Speaker 1>there's three of them, let's see. It's like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which man behind the schooner will be revealed?

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<v Speaker 4>And you're off to a little visit to Queensland results up, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for like a match, you know, like, so I

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<v Speaker 1>went down and I saw him and he's tall, but oh,

0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:58.520
<v Speaker 1>jack on, there's so many innuendows with the two of us,

0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:03.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a bit naughty. I love then the bush. Thank god,

0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:07.680
<v Speaker 1>this is obviously this is perfect potty conversation without potty mouths.

0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.120
<v Speaker 1>But he, yeah, he was there at the bar and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh hey, and just started sort of

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<v Speaker 1>briefly chatting and we you know, I asked him to

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<v Speaker 1>come over to my house and watch a movie because

0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.280
<v Speaker 1>he was a backpacker who was doing his working holiday visa.

0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, oh, you mustn't have a DVD player.

0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.760
<v Speaker 1>You should cut my over friend watch a movie with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like yeah, sure. So we met up

0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and I found out that night. I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>how long did you have the crush on me? And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I didn't have a crush on you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, so it turned out it was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the other ones. It wasn't Jack. I just

0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was laid eyes on Jack and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, you'll do the man, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was just going to be a little fling,

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<v Speaker 1>and I tried to make the move on the first

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<v Speaker 1>date and he's like, oh no, no, He's like, I

0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.520
<v Speaker 1>don't really do any of that for like ten dates. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like ten dates. That's a very annoying amount

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<v Speaker 1>of date, yes, specific number. And I just I was like,

0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.919
<v Speaker 1>you're you're only here for like a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>Like why are we waiting? Why are we messing around?

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<v Speaker 3>Like is his definition of a date could be could

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<v Speaker 3>you've just dropped over for a coffee and then that's

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<v Speaker 3>a date?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, well that's what I started counting because I

0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.920
<v Speaker 1>was like every time, yeah, yeah, every time I saw him, yeah,

0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:28.600
<v Speaker 1>all of it, tallying it all up. Yeah and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So then he we sort of started hanging out a

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<v Speaker 1>bit and again got to like thirteen or fourteen dates,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just had the greatest time, like just enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>each other's company. But we knew that was kind of

0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.520
<v Speaker 1>a time limit because he was going to Thailand and

0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.080
<v Speaker 1>he didn't know if he was going to come back

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And got to the time that he was

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<v Speaker 1>leaving for Thailand, and I was all emotional. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you can't leave. I'm like, you know,

0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, well, we'll see what happens if it's

0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 1>meant to be. It's meant to be. He goes away

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<v Speaker 1>to Thailand. He's meant to be there for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months, and I we were chatting on the phone

0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and then we'd schedule like a couple of face times

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. It was one day that we were meant

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<v Speaker 1>to do a FaceTime call and he wasn't replying to me,

0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and it was maybe thirteen fourteen hours, and I was like, oh,

0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.880
<v Speaker 1>he hates me. It's all over. It's done. He's run

0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.080
<v Speaker 1>off with someone in Thailand and it's all over. And

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing, I get a text message and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a photo of his suitcases out the front of not

0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.439
<v Speaker 1>my apartment, but the apartment building up the road that

0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.399
<v Speaker 1>he just forgot my apartment was. But the sentiment was

0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:37.000
<v Speaker 1>there and he'd come back close. Yeah, so close. Yeah,

0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.200
<v Speaker 1>so yeah. So I run downstairs. I'm like, oh my god,

0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, and he's there with his bags and he

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<v Speaker 1>moved in. And that was kind of like three months

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<v Speaker 1>into like the whole experience. Yeah, it was very quick,

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, moving of the relationship, because you know, we'd

0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.199
<v Speaker 1>obviously both started that it was something we valued and

0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted and you know, being him, him being from the UK.

0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.479
<v Speaker 1>We had to work out like visas and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we yeah, with three months of sort of seeing

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<v Speaker 1>each other with a couple of weeks of him being

0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.000
<v Speaker 1>in Thailand, and then he came back and we registered

0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.879
<v Speaker 1>as a de facto couple and got into like we

0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.200
<v Speaker 1>moved in together. We just went gung ho into it because.

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<v Speaker 4>It's what a great decision by Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, marriage something or is it you happy with the

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<v Speaker 2>way things.

0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.159
<v Speaker 1>We're pretty comfortable to be fair, like being de facto

0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:32.359
<v Speaker 1>and like registering your relationship is kind very much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like a massive fan of weddings and marriages

0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.840
<v Speaker 1>just because I've been you know, we're doing drag. You

0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.840
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of Hen's nights and you see the

0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.159
<v Speaker 1>other side. Yeah, And I'm like, oh, I want to

0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.199
<v Speaker 1>spend money on this, Like I don't want to, Like

0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I would love to. I could have loped. But you know,

0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.639
<v Speaker 1>we could do a wedding if we go down to

0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.639
<v Speaker 1>the thing, down to the registry office and you know,

0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.920
<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm not like gearing up for a big

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.359
<v Speaker 1>wedding or anything like that. But then Jack surprised me.

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.320
<v Speaker 1>He said, if we do get married, he wants to

0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.400
<v Speaker 1>have a bit of a party, and I was like,

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that's weird. I don't want any of that at all.

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.080
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's just not been something we've been urgently

0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>thinking about. We're pretty content with how it's all running.

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 2>And is Jack content? Well? Is does he get into

0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:19.560
<v Speaker 2>drag as well?

0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, absolutely not. I put him into there's

0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>only room for one of us.

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 4>But he ever dressed him up?

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I did it once. I put him in drag once. Yeah,

0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and he actually looked really beautiful, So that's kind of

0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.600
<v Speaker 1>why I don't want it to happen. But in competition, yeah, yeah,

0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.960
<v Speaker 1>but he would be a terrible dancer. He's very tall

0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and lanky, and I've taught him how to have a

0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.920
<v Speaker 1>bit of rhythm now so he can clap along to

0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a beat and whatnot. But I just don't think the

0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 1>performing will be the strongest.

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.119
<v Speaker 3>So that's that's part of it. Like, you can, but

0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.360
<v Speaker 3>he can get dressed up, just don't perform.

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Jack, Yeah, but I don't want. But the only way

0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.360
<v Speaker 1>he get dressed up is if I do it for him.

0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.760
<v Speaker 1>And I barely like getting myself into drag anymore, let

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>alone doing it for someone else. So why is that?

0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, Like now it's just like for me, it's

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, work, and like like there used to be

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>a time where I love getting into drag and going

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>out for fun, but now I'm like, once i'm in,

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I consider myself in drag like a like a car

0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.720
<v Speaker 1>park meter. You know, you put the money in and

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I will do the job, and once the meter's run out,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done and I'm out. Like and you know, and

0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 1>if they want to top it up, and they want to,

0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, throw a few, you know, more bucks in

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the meter. I'll stay longer at your party and I'll

0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.360
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want. But if there's no money there anymore,

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm out.

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<v Speaker 4>How big is your makeup kit?

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>It's now desk, a desk, It's a full thing. And

0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>yeah big, yeah, I've got like tons of makeup and

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>then half of that I don't even like touch you.

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Like we're creatures of habit drag queens and we use

0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:01.120
<v Speaker 1>the same things over and over again, will buy everything

0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 1>because we love it. But then you end up sticking

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 1>with the things that you know work.

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, women are the same.

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fun, it's what we do.

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.439
<v Speaker 4>I know, the pretty right and then the latest and

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest, and then you go, I think I really

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do the same with golf a tire.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll buy, I'll get.

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<v Speaker 3>It all, and then I'll only wear three different things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what golf tire is, Actually it's dragged, to

0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>be honest, it really is. You're doing drag every time

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<v Speaker 1>you go out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it ready the night before.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, You're better than drag now because we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find whatever's on the floor and put it on.

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<v Speaker 4>Came will go out for dinner and just like you know,

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:45.680
<v Speaker 4>tracky back, tracky decks and a T shirt, a pair

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<v Speaker 4>of songs.

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<v Speaker 1>But the golf we gotta dress up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's matching. So it's everything is pristine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel the better, you know, the better I feel,

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<v Speaker 2>the better I'm going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's true. So I look the same drag, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and ru Paul said mother ru Paul. She

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>said that she always wears suits because you dress the

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>way that you want the world to see. Sure, and

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.159
<v Speaker 1>you know when you see someone in a suit, you go,

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<v Speaker 1>oh there, She's like they want to give you money

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in a suit, and I think there's something

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I just looked terrible in a suit. So

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:28.679
<v Speaker 1>that's why no one wants to give you money. They're like,

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 1>go away. But when I'm in drag though.

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<v Speaker 4>So you had two runs on is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Two runs on Drag Race?

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<v Speaker 4>What's that experience?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? It is the weirdest, most intense, beautiful thing that

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I've ever done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time we did it, we filmed in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like in a tin shed, like a tiny little

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 1>tin shed. But it was like my first time in

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the world of reality TV seeing how it's all made.

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And for me walking into that tin shed it felt

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<v Speaker 1>huge and I was like, wow, this is amazing. And

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, you start learning about the secrets of television

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know you don't want to know, you don't

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 1>want to once the once you go behind the curtain,

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it changes the way different it is. And I really

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>struggle watching it now, yeah, because I know exactly what

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>they're going through. You can see all the little bits

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, that's there's some fiddling and some

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, treachery, yeah, and stuff, and it's but it's

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>fascinating and I loved every experience, and I realized in

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>doing Down Under like it's not a competition. It is

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>a TV show made to entertain people in the guys

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>of being a competition. And if you do good TV

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and you work hard at making sure that you've got

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.880
<v Speaker 1>a moment, they're not going to get rid of you.

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's going to you know, because you make

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 1>good TV. So that's what I learned. And then going back,

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 1>we were in the BBC we at the what was it,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the big studio in the UK, Pine Wood Pine. Yeah,

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>so we were just across from the Double O seven studio. Yeah,

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it was white and they were filming Snow White for

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Disney at the time. So we were out there in

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>half drag, like having cities and chatting in like half

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 1>drag while they're people walking around in renaissance costumes. Like

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>it was like fabulous and it was in the middle

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>of winter it was freezing, but like the UK, going

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>to that studio, I realized that our tin shed in

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the in New Zealand compared not even close to it.

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>It was like just humongous and it was it blew

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>my mind. I nearly like died at how big it was.

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>But the second time, I went in so much more

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>prepared in terms of understanding what I was walking into.

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>So you don't have that initial shock of you know,

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>walking into a room and just having fifty cameras looking

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>at you and going, oh my god, what do I

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 1>do now?

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I could.

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:04.679
<v Speaker 1>I just knew what to do, and I felt more

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>natural and I loved it, and yeah, it was so

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>much fun. And there was drag from all over the world,

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>so we had like the Philippines, France, Spain, the UK obviously, Australia, America.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>All this melting pot of all different types of drag

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and just learning about each other was just my favorite thing.

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I thoroughly enjoyed it.

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you a question, are there are there

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 2>any if you ever met a straight guy? There is?

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>There's there are straight men that do drag. We've got

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple here in Sydney actually, But then there was

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>one that was on drag Race in the US named

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Mattie Morphosis. And there are Mattie Morphosis and they're a

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>straight man that does does drag. Yeah, it's a thing

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>like a drag is for everyone. Like I hate that

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>sometimes our community can get a little bit like gate

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>keeping with it. I think the power of drag is

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>for everyone to experience at least once, Like there is

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a level of just allowing yourself to just be free.

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 1>That's so much fun and playing dressing up what you know,

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing you should be shamed about it.

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>And this is the.

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Thing in today's day and age, with labeling and gender

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 3>and everyone. I think people genuinely want to be respectful. Yeah,

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, people genuinely do so, then am I crossing lines?

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Is it okay?

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 3>These sort of questions and get asked often before you

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 3>have that that innate response you know that I just

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 3>want to do it. Yeah, you can't do that because

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 3>you're going to offend.

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 2>But blah blah blah.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 3>So so that's why, that's why I asked you that

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 3>why I'm tentative with it, because it's like, is this appropriate?

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I think, I'm I'm probably you know, this could be

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>a controversial statement, but I hate the way and I

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>use the word hate because I hate it. I hate

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>that these structures that people are trying to put in

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>place make us scared of each other and scared of

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>experiencing someone else's existence, because that makes you more more

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>empathetic to someone else and makes you, you know, like

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>when you learn about someone's experience, it just grows you

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 1>as a human because you can you can go, oh, no,

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, I understand that, and even if you didn't

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>understand it before, now you do, and it's just an

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>extra layer onto you. And I just hate that we

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 1>are putting all these rules and restrictions on everyone that

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>actually isolates us from each other. Yeah, whereas you know,

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you should be able to play with all these things

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and dabble and learn about each other. And you know,

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the same goes with like, you know, I don't feel

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>like if you make fun of someone's culture, that's a

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>different thing. But if you want to genuinely learn about

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>someone's culture, you should be able to do that with

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>someone so it enriches you as a person, you know.

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like that. Yeah, I just don't like

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the fear that it's puts in people and the fact

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that you know, you even said, oh, I don't want

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>to say the wrong thing. We should say the wrong thing.

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>We should be able to have the grace to say

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the wrong thing. And if someone goes, hey, that's not correct,

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>then you go, oh cool, no worries. Yeah, thanks to

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>letting me know, yeah, and then we move on. How

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>do you learn if you don't make mistakes? And like

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so counterintuitive and I don't really understand how we

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>got to that point, because you don't learn unless you

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>make those errors in life, because then you can fix

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>it and carry on beautifully. Shit, do you.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 4>Feel that mainstream media in Australia is to is partially

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 4>to blame for that?

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I think mainstream media is because it doesn't

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes showcase a diverse palette of stories. I think they

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>very sometimes streamline into certain things. And like, even from

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>my experience, like after doing Drag Race, I thought we

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of get sold this idea that you get you know,

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>pushed into the world of you know, mainstream media and

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever and you can go do other shows and you

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>can be invited to these things and whatever. Honestly, it's

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's like Diddley Squat, we get chat on and

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>they would rather celebrate someone from maths then like us,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>who you know, can bring so many different talents and skills,

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Like we have so many facets to drag because we've

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>had to produce ourselves for such a long time that

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>we could bring all these wonderful things to a show

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but we just never get invited. And then

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to an executive once that the actors

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, you know, I'd love to come

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>on like I'm a celeb or do this or whatever,

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and Australia is not ready for that. But which I

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, are you joking? You know, because I was like,

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>we grew up with Priscilla. You celebrate Priscilla all the time,

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you celebrated Dame Edna. Why why is it now we're

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>all scared of drag? Yes, there could be controversy.

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 2>It's his response.

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he was like just he just didn't care. It

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>was he was like, on walk away from the crazy

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>drag queen lady. But but like Australia is. I think

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Australia is ready. I just think they need to see it.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>If you're not going to see it, of course they're

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>going to be a bit weird with it initially, but

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>like once they humanize us and they see the person

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>behind the drag, like they just realized we're people just

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>getting on with life and trying to make you laugh

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, make you happy.

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 4>You'd be good on Google Box.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to I don't have to do anything right now.

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, I'm separate bathrooms and live in my life.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 4>You've reached the pinnacle.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>It can only go down from here.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking, as you're talking about footy clubs, footy.

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Clubs, the community footy clubs.

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Have been doing and they have the men already like

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>we've always it's so yeah, and it is and that's

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>what it should be. That's what it should be. And

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, it just becomes this whole big political thing

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't need to be. And yeah, so it's

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>been very very interesting. But I think also as well,

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>like the second point of that is mainstream media, but

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>also social media as well, like how social media now

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>is a place where everybody has a place to put

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>every single one of their thoughts, feelings and opinions. Yes,

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>which yeah, I get it to a degree, but I

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>think we also need to learn the restraint and sometimes

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>all those things need to go out into the ether. Yes,

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, I don't think we can put

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the lid back on that now container now that's out.

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>But so now it's just going to be. We just

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>got to manage it. And you realize, like honestly, the

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>things that happen online don't really translate into real world

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, Like when I go to conventions like

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 1>we do drag Con, which is big drag queen convention.

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>You could be absolutely hated online, but you will have

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a line at your booth and people come and by

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>your merch. So you just realize that translation. Yes, it's

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>not that. It never it never really has real world effects.

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>It's all just noise and avoid And I've really started

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to make sure I focus on that. If things go

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit haywire online, it doesn't like that doesn't

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>mean anything. This does not mean anything. This can get

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>turned off. What happens the best. The only thing that

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>matters is interactions like this. We're in a room together,

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>we're talking to people, like that's the stuff that matters,

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, well said, well, thank you. I'm just a

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>wise old hour.

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 4>We have a quote here from your dad.

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, and I love this and it.

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Was in a response to a really shitty article and

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 4>hateful woman.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I remember her.

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 4>Do you want to read it, honey? Yeah?

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my of it.

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 4>It's so beautiful.

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Because this is going to I think because we have

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 3>a son, River who's been dressing in Well, he hasn't,

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 3>he hasn't kept up kept with her, but he certainly

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 3>for all of his boyhood he dressed as princesses and

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 3>loves and so I think this is going to hit me.

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if I can read it, because

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I haven't ready it. No, I'm going to take a

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>big deep Breathay, why not? Okay, Yeah, this is okay.

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 3>My son is Hannahconda, a drag queen, and a very

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 3>good one at that. He is a beautiful human being

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 3>who has dedicated much of his life to his craft,

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 3>his family, and above all, his community. I too, will

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 3>do whatever it takes political posting mama to protect my children.

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 3>But my job as a parent is to give them

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 3>a good grounding in their life and to be supportive

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 3>of their endeavors, to lead by example guide them to

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.919
<v Speaker 3>becoming good citizens in our wider community. I have seen

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 3>firsthand and way too often, the terrible sadness that exists

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 3>with young people who are not accepted by their own

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 3>families because they are merely gay. If you really want

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 3>to make a difference in the world we live in,

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 3>start by being a nice person.

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's your dad, that's your dad. Dad. He is

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>he is like he I have said it before. He's

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>my like he is my my, my hero. Both my

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 1>mum and my dad are very very called them new age.

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>We we'd like when we grew up, we did like reiki,

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>we did hands on healing as a family. You know,

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 1>we've always been like like things were going wrong with

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>like mental health or whatever, we'd be like therapy was

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a big thing too. We're a very open family. We

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about a lot of stuff. And I think that

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes gets Jack a little bit because I'm a talker,

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm an open book and we and like our family

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is very very open and like Jack sometimes goes, oh

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>my god, just you know, this is a lot of feelings.

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 4>He's also British, it is also.

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're very reserved and they don't really do that.

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>But my dad, he he is just an example of

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>somebody that you know, can't understand how anybody could not

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>love their child for who they are. Like they take

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>us where they guide us and that and that's the

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>fundamental lesson he's always taught us is that we just

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>we pay our taxes and we be good people. Like

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that is it?

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 4>You know?

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>He said, you could have nothing, but as long as

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you smile and be a good person, that's all I

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>want from my children. And I think that's a really

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 1>important lesson and something.

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 4>What else is there?

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, Like people want to work and be around

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>nice people and that are easy to easy to be around.

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 1>And my dad is definitely that person. He's Yeah, he's

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a superhero, he really is. When he wrote that as well,

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like it just I didn't know he was doing that,

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and oh just melted my heart because I was. I

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't because in drag you over the years, there's been

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 1>so many things staring us, but we get a thick skin,

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>like we've very thick skin. So even though that, you know,

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>because I was getting death threats, so I was getting

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>all these horrible things sent to me, and I just

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't let it face me because you just carry on.

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>But my dad he was like, no, I'm not standing

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>for this because he has seen when he's come to

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>the bars, how many kids deserted by their family and

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>they become like surrogate parents. Yeah, and they sit there

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and they talk and they have all these like you know,

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>kids all around them, just sitting and enjoying and they

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>love it. There's a photo of them that goes on

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>their on their TV at home with them and they're like, oh,

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>there are leather daddy friends that they've met. There's just

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 1>these old older couple that live in Sidney and there

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>their the leather daddies. We love our leather daddy friends. Yeah,

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>but they just you know nothing, And I feel like

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that's very similar to the two of you. It's like,

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I think your essence is very much the same as

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>what my parents are, and you know, you just take

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>people where they're at and just yeah, you know who's

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>just being a good person. And you both do that

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like you'd get along with my mom.

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:10.760
<v Speaker 4>And I love that already.

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>They're fun. They're real fun.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 4>I always I think I think the first time I

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 4>saw this was in America. I think I'm sure it

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 4>happens here too. But when they would do when they

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 4>were there was some like gay run or something through

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 4>West Hollywood. There was a gay marathon, and there was

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 4>this mum who would she was like free.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Free mom, hugs. Yes, I'm like I want to be

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>there yet takes with you.

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 4>It was so I'm like, come to me. I will absolutely,

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 4>I just think it's such a beautiful thing.

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's just just such a kind gesture and it

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 1>changes someone's day and experience, and like just so simple

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>kindnesses that I think we sometimes forget just a smile

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.439
<v Speaker 1>at someone, you know, it's weird. Sometimes some people don't

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>know how to take it and they go, oh my god,

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>what are you why are you looking at me?

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you know something about the drag community that

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 4>people might not realize.

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that people like you know, because I think

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it gets politicized a lot. Now, yes, there's probably a

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of things, but this is the one that I

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like I want to focus on. I think it

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>gets politicized a lot, you know, with the drag queens,

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>story time and yeah, you know all of that, and they,

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>like conservatives will look at that like we're trying to

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>indoctrinate children into the gay gender and all that. I

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 1>was like, I never got indoctrinated. I went to an

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>all boys Catholic school. At me. Now, hey, come on,

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>like that. There was no drag wuens around when I

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was a kid, But like I wish there was, because

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, just so encourages that level

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of being able to play and dress up and use

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 1>your imagination, which I do get scared for young kids

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>these days, when they're so ingrained in like technology and everything.

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>That idea of just being able to mold something out

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.919
<v Speaker 1>of the things in front of you and play how

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 1>important that is. And I think drag keeps that alive

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And the idea of exploring like different

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>colors and shapes and textures and like it's it's it's

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a it's it's fabulous way to like expand your mind.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we get this. You know, we're trying

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>to groom kids and we're pedophiles and all of this.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>We get told this all the time by conservative media,

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>whereas reality is it's never that we're very much dressed appropriately.

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>If we're doing a drag story time, I'm not going

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 1>to go in pair of hooker boots and whatever. I'm

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>going in a big princess gown and looking like Elsa,

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like we know what we're doing,

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>but I just forge. I think people forget that while

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 1>it's political, sometimes the most political thing you can do

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>is to laugh and ensure yourself, because that is a

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 1>reprieve from the madness of the world. And that recharges

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>your batteries to then go out and do the hard stuff,

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>because you can't be stuck in that all the time

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>in the like you know, the activism and the wallowing

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and realizing the world is not the greatest at the moment,

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.359
<v Speaker 1>but you know, but there are pockets of fun and

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>that's what like. Even like, I was watching a documentary

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 1>on like, uh it was baking the in World War

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Two and yeah, yeah, but my like it was about

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 1>how they would cook and do baking in like in

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the bunkers and at Christmas, and they did a big

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Christmas dinner in like it was a modern show, but

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>they went back to show you how they would do it.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>So they took a whole family down into a World

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>War two bunker in England and they will cooked this

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Christmas dinner and they put made decorations and they made

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>little presents and it was an it was an experience

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>for everyone that was there. And they said that the

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>most important thing was that even though the war was

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>raging above them, here it's Christmas and we're having a

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>break to celebrate each other and just be fun. And

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that just sticks with me. I was like, well, it's true,

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, even in the darkest of times, those reprieves

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>are what keeps us going absolutely, you know, and I think, yeah,

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>we forget that that's sometimes a bit important. So the

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>fun part of drag, you know, and that reprieve from

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the noise and laughing and just you know, making fun

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>of the world. I suppose it's quite powerful.

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I have a dear friend who is she's the CEO

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 4>of a domestic violence charity, Rise Up, and she deals in,

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, in victims and survivor stories day in and

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 4>day out. Here's the most horrific stories. She is the funniest,

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 4>most joyful person.

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 4>That's how she keeps going because if you weren't. I

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 4>feel like if she wasn't, it would be she would

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.359
<v Speaker 4>be so depressed and like how would she get out

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 4>of bed? But she's absolutely hysterically funny and just got

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.399
<v Speaker 4>a smile on her face and so joyful, and it's like, see,

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 4>only I can get through baby.

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>She calls me back, babe. But you know it's plus

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>also probably helps the people that she's seeing to go, oh,

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>this is the nice how you can feel the energy,

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>so you know, it's yeah, I think there's just power

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>in that sometimes we.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>All need balance. Oh you do you need balance. It's

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 2>good to be serious.

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's good to be earnest and passionate about things,

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, at the same time, it really helps to

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 3>be frivolous or the antithesis of that.

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 2>And just go go out and just be silly.

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>You can take you can take what you do seriously,

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>but you don't need to take yourself seriously. There you go,

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>look at you.

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 4>We're going to start making bumper stickers from the stuff.

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I want to do like a little

0:43:55.360 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>book of just saying I'm gonna have to go back

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and be like, listen to what I've said, beautif.

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Do you make goals?

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Do you do you set yourself out like time goals

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 3>and things that you want to achieve?

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, I do, like I have Like I yeah,

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I do have goals of certain things that I want

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>to achieve. But then I like to just see sometimes

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>where it takes me. I enjoy sometimes and sometimes maybe

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>not to my benefit, and I end up going, oh

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>my god, I've got to work this week. What am

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I kill me? But you know, I do have the

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>big goals, but the in between stuff. I like to

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>see what happens because it's you know, it creates a

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>spicy life that you never know. You know, you never

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>know what's around the corner. And some of the best

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>things that I've ever experienced have been you know, surprises,

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 1>they're just pupped up, you know. But I'm very much

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a believer and like trust the process, and I trust

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that I'm on the path, you know, And I and

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I a good gut, so I know when I actually

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have a good girl got ibs, but I've got

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a good gut. I've got a good.

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Chemist, right that'll help you.

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>But I've got Yeah, I trust, I trust it and

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>if I know, like I know when something's right, and

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.919
<v Speaker 1>I know when something's a bit off. If you just think,

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>if i'd like meet someone and I don't really trust

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>what they're saying, it's weird. My shoulder goes, isn't that interesting?

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 1>It just like pops up. And so like when I've

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>been around people that I'm like, oh, you're telling stories,

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it just goes like that.

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 4>And then I myself like this, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh.

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:40.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't like you.

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be careful you because you're protecting your heart.

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're actually creating a barrier. Yeah, because you did

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 3>your other hand over your heart.

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the body never lies.

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 1>No it doesn't. Yeah, trust it. Yeah, trust it.

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<v Speaker 2>So five years down the track.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well my goal I would really love to move

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 1>to the UK really, Yeah, Like after doing the UK

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Drag Race, I fell in love with it. And Jack's

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>got his family there. Yeah, they're in Newcastle. I don't

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.240
<v Speaker 1>want to live in Newcastle. I love Newcastle. I couldn't

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 1>live there. I'd like to live around like, you know,

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>not even in London, but on the outskirts of London.

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I could go a little bit like regional. But I

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 1>just love it. It just melts my heart in the

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 1>UK and I would love to live there. I'd love

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to do more sort of TV stuff and panel shows

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>and comedy and you know, I like to dip my

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>finger in every part that I can. I'm not one

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:43.919
<v Speaker 1>to say no to something. I'll try anything. So yeah,

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.399
<v Speaker 1>my goal is just to keep working away and sort

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of building the profile of what Hannah is and just

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 1>making people laugh and have a good time and smile.

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's my goal. That's my job, you know.

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>And I think I've really invested too deeply into this,

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>so I can't really go back, you know, don't put

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>too much into it. Now, I'm like, what else can

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I do?

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:06.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Mecca and Sophora have benefited greatly.

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh they really have. You know, when you realize you're

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 1>committed too hard to something, you're like, oh god, yeah,

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>well put all the eggs in this basket.

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Great? Would that be putting up on a vision board?

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 2>There you are advertising for Mecca?

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh that was great, right, looks too Yeah, Mecca. If

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you're listening for you're listening, I don't know. I'm an

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 1>equal opportunities make up by studio to yours. Yeah.

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 4>What's been the most empowering part of your drag journey?

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I do think it is when you, like, when I've

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 1>been able to start traveling more with with drag post

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Drag Race, you realize, like sometimes it's a bit trauma dumpy.

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>The people that you come to meet, they like, go,

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, You've saved my life, and it can

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>get it can get a lot. But then at the

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 1>same time that is incredibly special, like knowing that I've

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 1>been able to go into somebody's house on TV for

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:13.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, an hour each week and that's made such

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>an impact as someone that they've decided to make changes

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to their life and live a better life or whatever,

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>or just even the fact that I just brought them

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a bit of joy. That's really special because you don't

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 1>you don't sometimes realize the impact you have. Yeah, you know,

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>even with smaller platforms, even when I was just the

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 1>local entertainer and Sydney working on Oxford Street, like the

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 1>same thing would happen, someone go, I love that show.

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>That number that you did really made me happy. And

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>that's when you realize the effects we have on other

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>people around us. And sometimes we may not know it

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>because not everyone will come up and tell you, but

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the ones that do showcase that we are doing that,

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the most profound, you know impact.

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 1>And it was also actually sorry to I've just had

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 1>another brain way. There was one time and there was

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I was doing a I think it was a birthday

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 1>or a Christmas party just in the city, and I

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>walked in and there was this gentleman. I've told the

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>story before, but it's always gets me that I walked

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 1>in there was this guy. He was probably like fifty,

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe like late mid to late fifties, and I walked

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>up and he was like, oh, don't talk to me.

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't talk to me, and I was like, no worries.

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like I used to bash fags like you in

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the eighties. And I was like, Okay, all good, no worries.

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to leave you to it. I'm not gonna

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that person to push someone like that. I

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't like what you've said. I think

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:44.839
<v Speaker 1>that's really horrible and you probably should be, you know,

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 1>investigated for this, but fundamentally, I'm just going to leave

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:50.839
<v Speaker 1>you be. So I go around do my job. I'm

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>entertaining people, like I was on the mic, did a

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>couple of numbers and he comes up to me at

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the end and I get a tap on the shoulder

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and I turn around it's him, and I was like,

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>oh God, what's going to happen now? And he's like

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say. I say I'm sorry for

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 1>what I said before, and he's like, I can't take

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>back what I've done. But just seeing you today just

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>made me realize that you're just like us and his

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and like I was like, wow, Like you've just recognized

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>in space of an hour or two hours that we're

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:27.799
<v Speaker 1>just fellow human beings trying to get on with it,

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:32.839
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you've probably realized, you know, thirty years

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 1>of hate that you've harbored in your heart for a

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 1>group that you have no idea about, was just wasting

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 1>away your time. That's exactly right. And you know, yeah,

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>obviously very problematic what he said and what he did,

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know that lesson that he learned on

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that day. I'm hoping he's carried forward and continued on,

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 1>but just knowing that you can change someone's minds by

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>just being around, yeah, and just doing your doing you. Yeah,

0:50:59.040 --> 0:50:59.839
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool.

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:03.399
<v Speaker 4>And that's and that's to your point. Like the more

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 4>we see in mainstream media, it just takes away this

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 4>idea it's us and them. It's like we're all wanted together.

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>And some of us in our community I get weirded

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 1>out by I'm like, I don't get you, but not

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>for me, Like, you know, I'm not going to poop

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 1>on your braid. Weird exactly the people that all the time,

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>but we just you know, I just I don't want to,

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just again live life as a good

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 1>person and you don't need to go and you know,

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 1>poop on someone's doormat just because you don't like it. Yeah, exactly,

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>there's another one for the book.

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for the time today. It's wonderful

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 2>to have.

0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>You right back at you, and it's been so nice

0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and like I said, like you give me the aree

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of my parents. It's been just like I think you'd

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 1>get along with them so well. And I wish they

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I wish you could meet my mom and dad because

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I think we'd all have a very gay time.

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Yeah, we'll get there.

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Who are the leather dudes.

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>The leather daddies, Yeah, yeah, I can find them. Yeah, yeah,

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 1>we have We'll have our own little Mardi growing here.

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 2>We'll do a little heart to your mom and dad.

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're listening.

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Hi, mom and dad and everyone else who's listening to

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 1>my brother Tim, This is Amy High. Thank you so

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 1>much for angels. Thanks for having me in your bathroom.

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 1>You are welcome. Can I can I flush now?

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Wish?

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:44.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, what and wonderful human. I love love him.

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 3>As he was leaving just then, I forgot to ask

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 3>you how many wigs you have?

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Over two hundred hundred wigs?

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wow, Yeah, do you have two hundred of anything?

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:01.400
<v Speaker 2>A books?

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:03.399
<v Speaker 4>I know that two hundred books. That's the only thing

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 4>I held to two hundred of yeah, over two hundred. Yeah,

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:08.839
<v Speaker 4>nothing else, nothing else.

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 3>His desire to pass along joy and fun.

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Is so significant. Yeah, I just love how he just

0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:24.359
<v Speaker 2>that's it. You give you a respite from all the

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 2>absolute gloom.

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, we need more, We need more Hannah's in

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 4>the world. Yeah, we really do. I'm sure Jack is

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 4>just as delightful as well. I don't want him to

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 4>move to the UK. I want him to stay in

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Australia and keep bringing joy to people in this country.

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 3>Actual, we would come back for tours and lucky, lucky,

0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:46.759
<v Speaker 3>the Internet has flattened the world out, so you.

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Can really do that and you'd still think he was here.

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 4>He was still here, that's right. Anyway. Look, we so

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 4>hope you enjoyed Hannah Conder and that conversation we think

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 4>he was is just a delight. Thanks so much for listening.

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Until next time. Bye,