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Speaker 1: On scorn lids Ostrodia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show.

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Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, the Liberal Party's leadership crisis as they

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Speaker 4: sing to new lows under the leader Susan Lee, with

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Speaker 4: a primary vote sitting at twenty seven percent. Dan wil

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Speaker 4: will join me shortly to discuss that and much more.

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Speaker 4: I'll speak to the great Josh Hammer, who was a

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Speaker 4: close friend of Charlie Kirk. He has plenty to say

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Speaker 4: about the modern left's taste bought violence. Corey DeAngelis will

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Speaker 4: be in the studio and we'll look at the state

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Speaker 4: of academia and while Charlie Kirk saw it as the major.

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Speaker 3: Threat to Western civilization. And later in the hour Gabriella Power.

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Speaker 4: We'll have more on the life and legacy of the

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Speaker 4: man many saw as a future president.

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Speaker 3: And we never forget left.

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Speaker 4: He is losing it tonight, featuring this awful woman.

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Speaker 5: The only people I have any empathy for in the

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Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk situation are his victims.

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Speaker 6: That is it.

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Speaker 4: Let's stick with the far left, the Australian far Left's

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Speaker 4: dangerously deranged reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a

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Speaker 4: brave conservative Christian father of Too, famous for his political debates.

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Speaker 4: Let's begin with radical feminist Clementine Ford, who shortly after

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Speaker 4: Charlie's death posted a series of vile rants, some from

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Speaker 4: her car, apparently condemning progressives who oppose political violence and

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Speaker 4: even explicitly calling for it.

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Speaker 7: There's still this impulse that so many white people have,

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Speaker 7: nice white, progressive, middle class white people have to respond

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Speaker 7: to things like this with these kind of very somber

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Speaker 7: faced violence is never the answer, likeck, what the heck

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Speaker 7: are you talking about?

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Speaker 6: But just remember he died doing what he loved, defending guns.

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Speaker 6: He took a bullet for the cause, and according to

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Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk, a few deaths a year from guns is

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Speaker 6: a small price to pay to defend the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 6: So what more could he possibly ask for.

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Speaker 7: It's a tribute and legacy to the pointlessness of his life.

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Speaker 3: You should be.

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Speaker 6: Glad that this is how he went out.

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Speaker 4: And if that wasn't bad enough, the New Daily published

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Speaker 4: a piece by the Australian Institute's Amy Romiekers, who wrote, sadly,

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk was killed in the America he wanted.

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Speaker 3: But will I mourn him? No?

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Speaker 4: I mourned for the people suffering in the world he

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Speaker 4: helped create and helped gloating dominion over. Kirk represented everything

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Speaker 4: we should.

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Speaker 3: Be pushing back against.

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Speaker 4: Tolerating the intolerable makes us all crueler and validates those

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Speaker 4: who have no compassion for anyone they don't understand. I

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Speaker 4: refuse to said the greatness in that I mourned the

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Speaker 4: loss of life, but not what Charlie Kirk did with his.

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Speaker 4: That woman is in desperate need of a mirror. The

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Speaker 4: New Daily has since removed that piece. The question needs

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Speaker 4: to be asked, why was it ever published?

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Speaker 3: And let's have a look at this.

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Speaker 4: Post from Cheek Media CEO Far Left influencer Hannah Ferguson.

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Speaker 4: In it, she writes, am I glad Charlie Kirk will

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Speaker 4: no longer spread his extremist messaging?

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Speaker 3: She answered that with yes, And.

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Speaker 4: She also asked is violence sometimes necessary?

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Speaker 3: And again she said yes.

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Speaker 4: Now that post was liked by none other than till

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Speaker 4: mp Zali Stegel, but she has since unliked it and

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Speaker 4: condemned Kirk's assassination and responds to a wave of criticism

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Speaker 4: in the media, although she still maintains that liking does.

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Speaker 3: Not equal endorsement.

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Speaker 4: So if you like a post on Instagram, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean you actually like it. Try to figure that out.

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Speaker 4: And finally we had this from Abby Chatfield.

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Speaker 3: Of course we did. She wrote he was.

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Speaker 4: A dangerous far right extremist who said that he doesn't

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Speaker 4: believe in empathy. He has said that the Civil Rights

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Speaker 4: Act was a huge mistake.

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Speaker 3: He has said that gay people should be stoned to death.

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Speaker 4: He has said that public executions should occur.

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Speaker 3: And be televised.

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Speaker 4: He has even said that if his daughter were ten

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Speaker 4: years old and were pregnant through rape, he would force

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Speaker 4: her to carry the child to turn. The man was evil.

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Speaker 4: Now what's evil is your deranged response the ugly hyperbole

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Speaker 4: and lies that I.

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Speaker 3: Just read out.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now is IPA Deputy executive director Daniel Wild. Dan,

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Speaker 4: have you seen the past four days Some of the

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Speaker 4: commentary has been beyond.

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Speaker 8: Unhinged, yall, I completely agree with you, Rita. I think

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Speaker 8: the mask has really slipped on the modern left and

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Speaker 8: what it is that they truly believe. You know, when

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Speaker 8: we've heard them say that words are violence, that was

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Speaker 8: sort of the permission structure that they created to you know,

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Speaker 8: sort of have this false equivalence between someone having you know,

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Speaker 8: hurt feelings therefore justifying violent actions against somebody else. And

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Speaker 8: so you know, these ideas have consequences.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: What it also shows to me is that the Left

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Speaker 8: have no interest in debate. We saw that here with

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Speaker 8: the Voice to Parliament referendum, where if you oppose that,

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Speaker 8: you were just called a racist rather than actually having

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Speaker 8: a debate about it. Same with the gay marriage Plever site,

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Speaker 8: you were called homophobic and said it was insensitive to

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Speaker 8: debate and have a vote on that particular issue. So, look,

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Speaker 8: the Left really have no interest in engaging in debate.

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Speaker 8: They seek to dehumanize their political opponents, which then legitimizes

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Speaker 8: a whole range of actions, including the assassination of a

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Speaker 8: prominent public figure.

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Speaker 4: There is a growing list of people getting fired for

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Speaker 4: dancing on Charlie Kirk's gray, from MSNBC commentators to nurses

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Speaker 4: and teachers and even shop assistants. Let's have a look

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Speaker 4: at a few examples here. We've had a nurse in

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Speaker 4: Atlanta Children's Hospital. She was fired for posting f his kids,

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Speaker 4: f his ancestors, especially the b who birthed him Charming,

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Speaker 4: the assistant dean of students at Middle Tennessee State University,

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Speaker 4: was fired after she wrote looks like old Charlie spoke

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Speaker 4: his fate into existence. Hate begets hate, zero sympathy. DC

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Speaker 4: Comics has also fired author Gretchen fel kirk Martin and

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Speaker 4: terminated the latest comics series she wrote, called Red Hood,

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Speaker 4: after she posted thoughts and Prayers U Nazi b hoped

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Speaker 4: the bullets okay after touching Charlie kirk Dan. My opinion

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Speaker 4: is that sunlight is the best in dis infectant.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad these characters.

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Speaker 4: Fell emboldened enough to share their bile online, and I'm

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Speaker 4: not the least bit sorry that there are some consequences.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there should be consequences. These people should lose

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Speaker 8: their job, you know. But the problem is that a

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Speaker 8: lot of these people that you mentioned just then and

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Speaker 8: earlier are not necessarily sort of fringe players. I mean,

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Speaker 8: you know, Abby Chatfield had Anthony Albanesi on her podcast,

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Speaker 8: you know, so it's sort of the leadership of the left,

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Speaker 8: the political leadership of the left, have sort of legitimized

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Speaker 8: the opinions of a lot of these a lot of

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Speaker 8: these individuals, so there's sort of that issue. I think

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Speaker 8: the other point here is that we've had a real

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Speaker 8: generation that's been brainwashed through our education system and through

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Speaker 8: the rabbit holes that they go down in the media

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Speaker 8: and the sort of echo chambers that they occupy. Now

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Speaker 8: that they really do believe these things because they've never

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Speaker 8: been challenged. And all you have to do is look

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Speaker 8: at Charlie Kirk's videos when he's university, and really all

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Speaker 8: it takes this two or three minutes of questioning of

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Speaker 8: one of these sort of radical activists, and their arguments

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Speaker 8: and their beliefs just don't hold up. They don't stand

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Speaker 8: up to any kind of scrutiny. So that's why they

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Speaker 8: actively avoid debate. Because their opinions and their conclusions, whether

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Speaker 8: it's on climate change or whether it's on identity politics

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Speaker 8: and transgenderism, I mean, they are absurd.

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Speaker 4: Dan, You're right about these characters normalizing this sort of

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Speaker 4: extremist rhetoric and the lies they operate on. I read

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Speaker 4: out one of the lies right there that's circulating from

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Speaker 4: Abby Chatfield saying that Charlie Kirk thought that gay should

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Speaker 4: be stoned to death. I mean just takes fifteen seconds

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Speaker 4: to check that out and realize it's not accurate. Don't

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Speaker 4: put it online. Now I'm going to ask you about

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Speaker 4: the latest news poll. It is disastrous for the Liberal Party.

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Speaker 4: For the coalition, Susan Lee has recorded the worst ever

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Speaker 4: primary vote. They're now sitting at a mere twenty seven

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Speaker 4: percent Labors thirty six percent.

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Speaker 3: That means the two party.

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Speaker 4: Preferred is currently fifty eight to forty two percent in

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Speaker 4: the ALP's favor. Dan, how much longer can Susan Lee

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Speaker 4: remain leader of the Liberal Party.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's the question, isn't it. Look, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I'll leave this sort of the personalities to others, but

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Speaker 8: I'll make a broader comment about what these results show.

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Speaker 8: They show that the Liberal Parties moved to the left

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Speaker 8: has failed. The further to the left the Liberal Party goes,

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Speaker 8: they're lower they standing in the community, you know, and

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Speaker 8: we can see that very clearly from Scott Morrison when

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Speaker 8: he signed up to net zero. That was really the

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Speaker 8: beginning of this decline. And the reason for that is

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Speaker 8: because the community knows that the Liberal Party is not

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Speaker 8: being authentic. Authenticity is the key thing for any political

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Speaker 8: party and for the leadership of any political party and

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Speaker 8: voters think that you're pandering to them for sort of

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Speaker 8: So what mainstream Australians want is a clearly defined center

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Speaker 8: right party. They don't want to pay limitation of labor

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Speaker 8: and of the Greens. And that's exactly what's been happening.

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Speaker 8: And I'm not just criticized. I'm not criticizing Susan Lee.

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Speaker 8: This has been something that's been in the making now

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Speaker 8: for a number of years.

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Speaker 4: Dan, You're right, and having Susan Lee as leader isn't

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Speaker 4: going to fix that problem.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now is American Culture Projects Senior fellow and

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Speaker 4: best selling author Corey DeAngelis. Isn't Australia for seapack in

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Speaker 4: Brisbane this weekend now, Corey, like Charlie, your focus is

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Speaker 4: schools and academia. Charlie believed the greatest threat to Western

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Speaker 4: civilization is what's going on in our college campuses today.

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Speaker 4: And it starts well before that, doesn't it. The indoctrination

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Speaker 4: has become part of the curriculum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a total problem.

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Speaker 2: You think that these issues just started the the higher

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Speaker 2: education levels, but it actually is much deeper than that.

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Speaker 2: The government school system is ripping apart society and it's

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Speaker 2: very fabric and it's very core. At the K through

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Speaker 2: this government school system, that have figured out that they

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Speaker 2: can move the direction of our country without even having

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Speaker 2: their own kids, by controlling these elite institutions that spend

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Speaker 2: so much money, and they're turning these these students against

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Speaker 2: their own countries. So I mean, it's it's it's a

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Speaker 2: huge problem. And Charlie Kirk was right that, you know,

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Speaker 2: the these institutions that are supposed to be about learning

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Speaker 2: are a threat to civilization because of the divisiveness. You

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Speaker 2: look at the critical race theory studies, diversity.

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Speaker 3: Equity in.

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Speaker 4: Not just academia. It spreads from those college campuses. Those

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Speaker 4: graduates take it into the corporate world. So it's in

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Speaker 4: your highschad departments, it's in public institutions and private institutions.

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Speaker 4: And with saying that really the hostile manner that anyone

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Speaker 4: who deviates from leftist thought is treated on university campuses,

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Speaker 4: let's have a look at some students at Boston University

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Speaker 4: have called on campus leaders to protect them from violence

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Speaker 4: and intimidation, saying that they fear for their safety amid

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Speaker 4: on campus celebrations of Charlie Kirk's murder. And this is

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Speaker 4: just sickening, Cory. But this is the reality on university campuses.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think it's just restricted to the US.

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Speaker 4: It would be evident in the UK and right here

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Speaker 4: And really, when you are calling your political opponents fascist

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Speaker 2: Just total gas lighting, total hipocrips, rejection.

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Speaker 4: And gas lighting. That's all they have. Corey Deangelas, thank

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Speaker 4: you so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Reader still to cam Lefties losing It.

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Speaker 4: Plus, I'll speak to a close friend of Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 4: You're watching the Reader Patty Show, and it's time for

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Speaker 4: Lefties losing it and the broken, soulless schools of the

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Speaker 4: Left have really disgraced themselves in recent days after the

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Speaker 6: The sympathy for Charlie Kirk is looking weird.

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Speaker 9: You want to word, don't go ahead and google Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: They got him in the net rapid piece boso.

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Speaker 6: I do not feel bad for him in the slightest.

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Speaker 10: Putting down like a dog in Utah, and I could not.

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Speaker 3: Be happier Charlie would have wandered it this way.

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Speaker 11: He's been one of the most divisive younger figures who

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Speaker 12: I think it's worth to have a cost a key

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Speaker 10: The rhetoric of Charlie Kirk, the way that he condoned

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Speaker 6: And how it came back to hurt him.

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Speaker 1: Everything that we're seeing with the Trump regime it.

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Speaker 3: Stems from Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 13: And we don't know if this was a supporter shooting

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Speaker 3: Now Here are two witches.

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Speaker 4: The first is planning to celebrate the next assassination.

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Speaker 3: These people are demonic.

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Speaker 14: We be insensitive, that'll be the least of your words.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 14: The biggest celebration, the biggest, most beautiful celebration.

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Speaker 3: Hideous, just hideous antics.

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Speaker 4: And here is one hot left troll, a vicious and

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Speaker 5: Pretending that you don't enjoy a terrible person's death is

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Speaker 6: And this is.

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Speaker 5: Exactly how we got here, because this is what Trump

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Speaker 6: The only people I.

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Speaker 6: That is it.

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Speaker 4: Now, instead of reflecting on the utter evil of what

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Speaker 5: All of the drama want to reiterate that it is

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Speaker 5: what he did, and then that came back to haunt him.

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Speaker 5: That was his decision. So it's got nothing to do

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Speaker 4: Just foul, vicious, deranged hate. What else can you say

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Speaker 4: about that. Let's have a brief and antidote to that ugliness.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear from Jeffrey Star, the original the OG influencer.

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Speaker 4: He had a message for those celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder.

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Speaker 13: Because I'm standing up for someone that passed away, I'm

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Speaker 13: never get by in life, you were sick in the head.

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Speaker 13: Someone just said there unsubscribing from me, Thank god, please,

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Speaker 13: because if you believe in vandams, you're part of the problem.

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Speaker 13: If you're so stupid enough to go against science, please

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Speaker 13: but there's science and those facts.

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Speaker 3: You can pretend in your head. You're a cat.

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Speaker 12: You can pretend in your head that you're.

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Speaker 3: This and you're that.

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Speaker 13: Good for you, You're still on the airb and the

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Speaker 4: I see, and huge props to Jeffrey's staff for that.

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Speaker 4: He posted plenty more on the issue. His following is enormous.

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Speaker 3: Of the left.

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Speaker 4: He pays a big price every time he speaks up,

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Speaker 4: and that takes courage, and it's all about courage and

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Speaker 4: conviction if you want to know why Charlie's work was

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Speaker 4: so important, so important in giving confidence to students to

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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at this clip.

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Speaker 4: This intimidation is not just from radicalized students, it's also

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Speaker 4: from academia. Listen to what happened to this young man.

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Speaker 10: I was walking to Valhalla to get my food exchange

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Speaker 10: confront him and said, what are you doing to what happened?

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Speaker 10: He charged on me after grabbed my chest, slammed it

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Speaker 12: And this was a professor, right, Yeah, If a conservative

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Speaker 4: Hear They're the ones dividing the country. Charlie was trying

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Speaker 6: I have breaking news. We think that Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 3: Just got shot in the neck.

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Speaker 15: Hey lived by the sword, die by the sword.

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Speaker 16: There are some people on this app that are sitting

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Speaker 1: Side they're on.

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Speaker 3: That that Charlie Kirk was a Nazi. He was a Nazi.

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Speaker 4: And you know what kind of nazis the that's Nazi,

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Speaker 17: Gather around, Let's all join hands and bow our heads

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Speaker 17: in thoughts and prayers for Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 6: Thoughts and prayers for Charlie Cook, thoughts and presers, thoughts

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Speaker 3: I'm not sad.

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Speaker 15: It's about time comer got that trash.

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Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk was a big advocate for the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 6: It worked out well for him.

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Speaker 18: The best part of this whole goddamn thing is that

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Speaker 9: Material, so his death will mean nothing. It will activate

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Speaker 4: It will mean nothing. Charlie's death will mean nothing. It

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Speaker 9: Really, it will activate no one.

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Speaker 4: The bile field left cannot comprehend the outpouring of goodwill

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Speaker 3: Front of more than one hundred and two thousand fans. S.

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Speaker 11: A moment of replace and following the murders of Charlie

445
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Speaker 11: Kirk and or guitar arenas or Root's going.

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Speaker 5: To sign.

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Speaker 4: Us and I would hear this next tribute shows you

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Speaker 4: how much the cold has shifted. This wouldn't have happened

449
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Speaker 4: ten years ago. It wouldn't have happened a year ago.

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Speaker 4: The New York Yankees and the bluest of blue cities

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Speaker 4: in a blue state, paid tribute to the Happy Warrior,

452
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Speaker 4: the man who changed so many hearts and minds. And

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Speaker 4: earlier today, the New York Jets this tribute to Charlie

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Speaker 4: Kirk's legacy before their game against the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: Again, this is New Jersey, folks, not Texas. This is

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Speaker 3: a blue state. Watch this.

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Speaker 4: And the tribute from the Jets did not end there,

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Speaker 4: as the crowd chanted USA. A video of Charlie and

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Speaker 4: a message from his widow, Erica, played at the stadium.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at large and

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Speaker 4: Article three projects Senior Council Josh Hammer. Josh, that's something

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Speaker 4: special that shows the impact Charlie Kirk had. They thought

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Speaker 4: that killer's influence by taking his life, they failed.

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Speaker 19: Let me just first say, this has been really hard.

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Speaker 19: This has been a really really hard week or so, Charlie.

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Speaker 19: They were pretty close. I've known him for any number

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Speaker 19: of years, where we really became close over the past

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Speaker 19: year and a half two years. We were in virtually

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Speaker 19: daily contact. Actually I spoke with him less than twenty

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Speaker 19: four hours before he was assassinated. Actually, I was helping

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Speaker 19: to prep him for this very campus tour, especially when

472
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Speaker 19: it came to the inevitable bombardment of anti Israel questions there.

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Speaker 19: And this is an irreplaceable void, is a gantu and

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Speaker 19: void that the American right. I mean, we have lost

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Speaker 19: not merely a foot soldier. We have lost not merely

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Speaker 19: a colonel or lieutenant. We have lost a five star general.

477
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Speaker 19: We have lost one of the absolute titans of our

478
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Speaker 19: broader battle to save America and by extension, save Western civilization.

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Speaker 19: We have likely lost a future president of the United States.

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Speaker 19: That that is likely the path that my fallen friend,

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Speaker 19: Charlie Kirk was very much on. But I guess what

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Speaker 19: I didn't necessarily appreciate, kind of taking it back to

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Speaker 19: the sports teams, I didn't necessarily fully appreciate the extent

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Speaker 19: of Charlie's penetration of the broader culture. I know him

485
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Speaker 19: as someone who I would frequently dialogue with about the issues.

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Speaker 19: I know him as someone who, you know, I would

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Speaker 19: go to Turning Point USA events. I know him as

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Speaker 19: someone who I would go on his show and we

489
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Speaker 19: were you know, But I didn't necessarily appreciate that you

490
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Speaker 19: would have country music megastars like Morgan Wallen and Jason

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Speaker 19: al Dean give out tributes mid concert to the grieving

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Speaker 19: widow of Charlie Eric k I didn't necessarily appreciate that

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Speaker 19: all but four, I believe, of the NFL teams had

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Speaker 19: had a moment of silence to trust, which.

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Speaker 1: Is extraordinary stuff.

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Speaker 19: I mean, you're totally right when you say that the

497
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Speaker 19: NFL was about as woke as it gets. They literally

498
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Speaker 19: had end racism in the end zone. I think they

499
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Speaker 19: probably still do in most of it, and they still

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Speaker 19: have end racism in the end zones. As a tribute

501
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Speaker 19: to twenty twenty, the Black Lives matter ANTIFA stuff, but nonetheless,

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Speaker 19: Charlie was such a larger than life figure, even at

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Speaker 19: the tender age of thirty one years old, that they

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Speaker 19: felt compelled to honor him. So, you know, I am

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Speaker 19: personally not fully past the morning and grieving period.

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Speaker 3: Rita.

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Speaker 19: Again, it's been very difficult for a lot of us.

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Speaker 19: I was speaking at a conference out of Las Vegas

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Speaker 19: this past Friday, and all of us out there were

510
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Speaker 19: kind of memorializing Charlie and our speeches there. It's really

511
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Speaker 19: hitting the American conservative community really really hard. But I

512
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Speaker 19: didn't fully appreciate just how much he penetrated not just

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Speaker 19: American conservatives, really kind of the broader American and frankly

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Speaker 19: broader global culture.

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Speaker 3: Josh, you and Charlie were close.

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Speaker 4: How difficult has it been to see the unhinged ugliness

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Speaker 4: of the left, the celebration of your friend's death, the

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Speaker 4: rationalizations and the lies.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, reader, it's it's most visceral reminder of evil in

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Speaker 19: our midst evil in this realm, at least since October seventh.

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Speaker 19: This is this has been the personally saddest that I

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Speaker 19: have been since October seventh. And it's also just the

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Speaker 19: most visceral reminder that there was such profound, unmitigated evil.

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Speaker 19: And you know, some of these specific details are I mean,

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Speaker 19: I don't even have words for this. I mean demonic, satanic,

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Speaker 19: I mean out of the pits of Hell, I mean

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Speaker 19: us of a verbide you want to do? You know

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Speaker 19: the University of Louisville and Kentucky that there was some

529
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Speaker 19: caricature on a bulletin board saying debate this, and it

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Speaker 19: was I guess a caricatured version of Charlie getting a

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Speaker 19: bullet into the neck. There there was some other story

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Speaker 19: that I saw of like a third or a fourth

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Speaker 19: grade elementary school teacher showing the video of him getting

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Speaker 19: shot to the students there. I mean, you know, this

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Speaker 19: is someone who should not merely be fired from being

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Speaker 19: an elementary school teacher. That person should be publicly flogged,

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Speaker 19: like literally flogged with lashes in the town square and

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Speaker 19: probably sent to a mental asylum there. But this is

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Speaker 19: probably the most tragic part of all is that in

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Speaker 19: a way this assassination.

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Speaker 1: Was somewhat predictable.

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Speaker 19: It really is shockingly similar to what happened to Donald

543
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Speaker 19: Trump and Butler. Pennsylvania have a very similar situation there

544
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Speaker 19: but left wing political violence has been a menace in

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Speaker 19: this country for years and years and years, and going

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Speaker 19: at least as far back as the twenty twelve Floyd

547
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Speaker 19: Lee Corkinson attempted shooting in the Family Research Council of Washington.

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Speaker 19: See the James Hodgkinson shooting of the congressional baseball team

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Speaker 19: in suburban Virginia in twenty seventeen, and on and on

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Speaker 19: and on we go. This is just the highest profile

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Speaker 19: example there. But the percentage of Democrats who say, rita

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Speaker 19: that they could see themselves justifying the assassination of Donald

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Speaker 19: Trump or the politicalponents. In a recent poll, I saw

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Speaker 19: the ones who said that they could they could foresee

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Speaker 19: this world of justifying it was over fifty percent. I mean,

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Speaker 19: I'm sorry not to put too fine a point on it.

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Speaker 19: This is how republics die like This is literally how

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Speaker 19: a self governing people loses the ability to govern itself.

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Speaker 19: When we cease to have our debates with the pen

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Speaker 19: and the keyboard at the ballot box there, and when

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Speaker 19: we start having our debates through the sword and bullets

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Speaker 19: and rifles there, that's it. That's game over there. The

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Speaker 19: stakes are really, really, really high, And I don't think

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Speaker 19: the left realizes what they're doing there. But we have

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Speaker 19: to fight back with all we've got there because we're

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Speaker 19: not going to let them destroy this country and destroy

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Speaker 19: Western civilization by extension.

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Speaker 4: Well, the left not only lied about Charlie, but they've

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Speaker 4: lied about the suspect, the man arrested for his murder.

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Speaker 4: They tried to paint this suspect as maga. They created

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Speaker 4: a fake image of him in a Trump shirt.

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Speaker 3: But Josh, this.

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Speaker 4: Suspect is precisely what you'd expect, a hate field, radical,

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Speaker 4: far left agitator who hated conservatives. What more can you

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Speaker 4: tell me about this suspect and the man, the man

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Speaker 4: who identifies as a woman and is reportedly transitioning, who

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Speaker 4: lived with the suspect was according to authorities, and relationship

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Speaker 4: with him and is now helping authorities.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it looks It looks an awful lot to me

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Speaker 19: like Charlie Kirk was was murdered by transgender actors. I mean,

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Speaker 19: and if you actually look at the at the moment

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Speaker 19: that the assassin's bullet fled, it was likely deliberately timed.

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Speaker 19: Charlie was in the middle of answering a question from

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Speaker 19: an audience member there at the rally about transgender inspired

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Speaker 19: mass shootings. That was literally the last question that Charlie

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Speaker 19: kirk Hurd in his life. That's when the assassin sent

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Speaker 19: this bullet.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 19: Now, this individual you know, whose name I would say

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Speaker 19: this is my personal policy. He grew up in a

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Speaker 19: conservative Mormon family in World, Utah. His parents are still

592
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Speaker 19: redist Republicans this day. They went hunting. That's perhaps how

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Speaker 19: he learned how to use a rifle with a scope.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 19: And this person was clearly profoundly radicalized, profoundly radicalized by

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Speaker 19: the college campus, profoundly radicalized by going down the pits

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Speaker 19: of hell on websites and exchanges like Reddit. And you know,

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Speaker 19: there's something psychologically to be said for this. I can't

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Speaker 19: help but wonder that if some of these folks who

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Speaker 19: come from good, kind of god fearing conservative backgrounds and

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Speaker 19: then kind of fall down the pits of hell on

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Speaker 19: university campuses there, I kind of wonder if they have

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Speaker 19: something of a chip on their shoulder where they feel

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Speaker 19: that they kind of have to maybe kind of you know,

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Speaker 19: do something radical to atone for their conservative family the

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Speaker 19: way they're raised there. So I'm kind of coming to

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Speaker 19: this conclusion on the spot. But I wonder if the

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Speaker 19: most dangerous would be assassins and messuares in America. Are

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Speaker 19: action people radicalized from red states, from conservative families there,

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Speaker 19: and then they go really really off the deep end there.

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Speaker 19: I'm not sure that's right, honestly, but it's kind of

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Speaker 19: a thesis that I'm working on right now there. But

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Speaker 19: more to the point, you know, the left is saying

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Speaker 19: that this is like a neo Nazi, is a groper,

615
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Speaker 19: you know, he's like a Nick Flentes type there. Now

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Speaker 19: this guy is he's literally a transgender furry X Mormon.

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Speaker 19: That is who this person is there. And it's just

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Speaker 19: unfathomable that we've had another transgender inspired act of violence

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Speaker 19: theory again, like like literally just like a week and

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Speaker 19: a half tweaks after the Nunciations church shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: When will it stop? When will it stop? There?

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Speaker 19: And I just asked yet again, I mean asked this

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Speaker 19: question for a long time, when will America have a

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Speaker 19: serious conversation about the mental disease that is transgenderism?

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Speaker 4: Now, I want to ask you about Charlie's widow, Erica.

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Speaker 4: She spoke in the last forty eight hours, showed enormous courage,

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Speaker 4: and she was very clear that she was going to

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Speaker 4: you the grief she feels, the anger she feels, to

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Speaker 4: make sure Charlie's mission is fulfilled. You know, Erica, tell

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Speaker 4: me a little bit about her and how you and

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Speaker 4: others around her will help her achieve this.

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Speaker 19: Well, that speech was extraordinary, wasn't it. That was one

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Speaker 19: of the most extraordinary acts of oration, rhetoric, and frankly

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Speaker 19: just outright bravery, valor and bravery.

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Speaker 1: That was an.

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Speaker 19: Extraordinary speech that Erkirk delivered from the Turning Point USA

637
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Speaker 19: headquarters Charlie Studio this this past Friday in the United States.

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Speaker 19: I was personally just absolutely blown away. And the speech

639
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Speaker 19: basically speaks for itself. I mean, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 19: you see someone who is extremely well spoken, who was

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Speaker 19: in control of her of her emotions, even in the

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Speaker 19: most trying of all situations, a horrific situation like this,

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Speaker 19: someone who was eloquent, someone who was passionate there and

644
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Speaker 19: really above all in that particular moment, someone who is really,

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Speaker 19: really really set on continuing her hin's legacy and continuing

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Speaker 19: his work and making sure that that legacy, in that

647
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Speaker 19: work did not die with the Assassin's Bull of this

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Speaker 19: past Wednesday in Aura, Utah.

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Speaker 16: There.

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Speaker 19: So look, we'll see who actually heads up Turning Point

651
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Speaker 19: in USA. I don't know who that person will be.

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Speaker 19: Maybe it'll be Erica Kirk, maybe maybe it will be

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Speaker 19: someone else there. I know that you will definitely be

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Speaker 19: involved very closely one way or the other, clearly and

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Speaker 19: making sure that Charlie's legacy and all his work does

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Speaker 19: not go to waste.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, just just some quick.

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Speaker 19: Numbers, you know, just in the first four or five

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Speaker 19: days after Charlie's death, Turning Point in USA apparently received

660
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Speaker 19: roughly thirty two thousand requests thirty two thousand requests from

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Speaker 19: high schools and universities in America to start new chapters,

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Speaker 19: which is way more they have currently total.

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Speaker 1: So this thing is taken off.

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Speaker 19: So when Erica Kirk said this past Friday that they

665
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 19: have no idea what they've started, because they have lit

666
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Speaker 19: a fire under an entire generation or more of American

667
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Speaker 19: assert is we're actually literally already seeing some preliminary data

668
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Speaker 19: that supports that proposition there and in these very very

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Speaker 19: dark moments Rita that ultimately what gives me solace and

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Speaker 19: some hope.

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Speaker 3: She said it all.

672
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Speaker 4: She said, they don't know what they've unleashed, and I

673
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Speaker 4: have full confidence she's going to continue that incredible.

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Speaker 3: Work now, Josh.

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Speaker 4: Earlier today, there were massive lines around the Kennedy Center

676
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 4: as DC locals lined up to pay tribute to Charlie.

677
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Speaker 4: Caroline Leavitt, White House pro Secretary, was among those to

678
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Speaker 4: speak about Charlie's impact.

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Speaker 20: Charlie Kirk was a Maverick, an independent minded person who

680
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 20: had the courage of his convictions. When so many influential

681
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Speaker 20: voices in our society are brainwashing young people to abandon

682
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Speaker 20: our feet, to stay single, not to have children, and

683
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 20: to bash our country, Charlie Kirk offered us an alternative path.

684
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 20: Charlie embraced our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and proclaimed

685
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Speaker 20: the Gospel boldly and proudly.

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Speaker 4: Charlie's faith was so important to him and today RFK

687
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Speaker 4: Junior spoke about the impact Charlie had on a family member.

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Speaker 11: My seventeen year old niece loved for a Europe to

689
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 11: go to college, and while she was packing her mother, Amarella's,

690
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 11: my daughter in Lot noticed that she had put a

691
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Speaker 11: Bible in her suitcase and Amarellas was curious about him,

692
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Speaker 11: and she asked her, and so he said to her,

693
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Speaker 11: I want to live like Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that says it all. Charlie's faith was integral to

695
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Speaker 4: his work. They had plenty of non believers who supported him,

696
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Speaker 4: but he really believed that the battle we are facing

697
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Speaker 4: is of biblical proportions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he did. You know, Look I readA.

699
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Speaker 19: America is still a disproportionately religious Christian country relatives to

700
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Speaker 19: most Western countries, and especially Republican politics conservative movement. So

701
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Speaker 19: because of that, they have a lot of people, whether

702
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 19: they are elected Republicans or conservative commentators, talkers, writers who

703
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Speaker 19: kind of talk the talk of Christianity. They like to

704
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 19: kind of thump a Bible here or there, but they

705
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 19: don't really actually believe it. They're just kind of saying

706
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Speaker 19: it for optics.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 19: Charlie Kirk did not just talk the talk. He won

709
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Speaker 19: a thousand percent walked the walk. He was someone who

710
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 19: was a sincerely principled, devout Christian. There he believed in

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Speaker 19: the Bible. And by the way, more to the point,

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Speaker 19: I think one of the reasons that Charlie Nun became

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Speaker 19: closer over the past you know, a couple of years,

714
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Speaker 19: give or take. Is that as I became a more

715
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Speaker 19: religious observant Jew, we found so much in common there.

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Speaker 19: Because Charlie's Christianity is the Christianity of the of the

717
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Speaker 19: American founding is the is the Christianity of George Washington,

718
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Speaker 19: John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Americans founders.

719
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Speaker 1: Which is that?

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Speaker 19: Which to say, that is a Christianity that understood that

721
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Speaker 19: its well spring is in the Hebrew Bible and the

722
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Speaker 19: old Estaments. Charlie was a living, breathing example of this.

723
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Speaker 19: He actually literally kept his version of the Sabbath. He

724
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Speaker 19: actually turned his phone off over the twenty four to

725
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Speaker 19: twenty five hours of the Jewish cheer from Friday, from

726
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Speaker 19: Friday night to Saturday night. He actually was working on

727
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Speaker 19: a book on the Sabbath. God will in that book

728
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 19: will still come out. This is this December. So he

729
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 19: really really really lived this in a very visceral way.

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Speaker 19: You can kind of see it as well over the

731
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Speaker 19: points that he emphasized over the course of his Turning

732
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Speaker 19: Point USA career. So when Turning Point USA was founded

733
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Speaker 19: years ago, it was founded initially as kind of a

734
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Speaker 19: big government sucks, you know, you know, screw socialism, kind

735
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Speaker 19: of platform, you know, kind of rain in the debt,

736
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Speaker 19: a lot of economic issues there. I'm not saying that

737
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Speaker 19: he stopped caring about those issues, but as he got older,

738
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Speaker 19: as he as he married Erica, as he has he

739
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Speaker 19: had children. You know, it's kind of it's kind of

740
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Speaker 19: a very similar evolution I've seen in my own life.

741
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Speaker 12: There.

742
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Speaker 19: You start, you start kind of focusing on some other

743
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 19: issues and his message again, he didn't ditch the economic stuff,

744
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 19: but he was increasingly focused on trying to talk to

745
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Speaker 19: young men, drafting say, here's how you can improve your lives.

746
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 19: That girl, ask her how to date, that girl, ask

747
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Speaker 19: her hand in marriage, go have children, go to church,

748
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 19: you know, go read scripture there. I mean, the message

749
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 19: really changed. He was really trying to speak to young

750
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Speaker 19: men and maybe above all a very vulnerable demographic in America.

751
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Speaker 19: He was really kind of the voice of that. And again,

752
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Speaker 19: we've lost just a completely irreplaceable void. I don't have

753
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Speaker 19: a single name to point you to say that person's

754
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 19: going to fill that void there. I don't know where

755
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 19: it's going to come from there, but he really did

756
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Speaker 19: it all, honestly.

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Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thank you. So much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Still to come more on the life and legacy of

760
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Speaker 4: the man many saw as destined to be president.

761
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Speaker 3: Gabriella Power joins.

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Speaker 21: Me next, Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk's heartbroken wife, Erica has delivered a powerful message.

764
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Speaker 3: She had this to say.

765
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Speaker 4: To the killer and those who incited this murder, this assassination.

766
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Speaker 3: They don't know what they've unleashed. The evildoers.

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Speaker 16: Responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they

768
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Speaker 16: have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message

769
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Speaker 16: of patriotism, faith and of God's merciful love. But they

770
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Speaker 16: should all know this. If you thought that my husband's

771
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Speaker 16: mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have

772
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Speaker 16: no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country,

773
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Speaker 16: in this world. You have no idea. You have no

774
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Speaker 16: idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife.

775
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Speaker 3: The cries of this widow.

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Speaker 16: Will echo around the world like a battle cry.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now is the host of Power Hour, Gabriella Power.

778
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Speaker 4: Gab we finally know more about Charlie Kirk's alleged killer,

779
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Speaker 4: twenty two year old Tyler Robinson, who was turned in

780
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Speaker 4: by his own father. It's been revealed that before his arrest,

781
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Speaker 4: he went onto a private discord chat and joked that

782
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 4: he's a dopel ganger pulled the trigger. In messages obtained

783
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: by the Neil Post, he mocked the manhunt for the

784
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Speaker 4: government and taunted the FBI's investigation, and he also joked

785
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Speaker 4: about obtaining reward money. It's pretty clear gap from these

786
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 4: screenshots that there's not much remorse here.

787
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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's really chilling to read the comments that Tyler

788
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 18: Robinson made in the hours leading up to his arrest.

789
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Speaker 18: He mocked the FBI investigation. He made comments saying that

790
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Speaker 18: the shooter must be in California. Another person in that

791
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 18: group chat joked about getting a cut of the one

792
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 18: hundred thousand dollar FBI reward. There was also another comment

793
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Speaker 18: made by Taylor Robinson there saying that oh, he had

794
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Speaker 18: to get rid of the manifesto, appearing to joke about

795
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Speaker 18: himself potentially being the shooter. Now we do know that

796
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Speaker 18: Taylor Robinson will be facing his first court appearance on Tuesday,

797
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Speaker 18: and Utah Governor Spencer Cox says that he's not cooperating

798
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Speaker 18: with law enforcement at the moment, but family and friends

799
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Speaker 18: are helping with the investigation.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and his lover appears to be helping investigators as well,

801
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: and we're getting more details about his private life. According

802
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: to police, Robinson was living with a transgender lover who

803
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Speaker 4: was in the process of transitioning from a man to

804
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Speaker 4: a woman. Utah Governor Spencer Cox also told the Wall

805
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Speaker 4: Street Journal that investigators are of the view that the

806
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Speaker 4: alleged killer is deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. But we

807
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: have heard a lot of misinformation. We have heard a

808
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: lot of lies from people who should know better, including

809
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Speaker 4: many in the media, about the alleged killer being supposedly

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Speaker 4: maga or from some right wing movement.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, so much misinformation disinformation online. It's horrible to see.

812
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 18: But I think this truth should I should say from

813
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Speaker 18: Utah Governor Spencer Cox that this alleged killer believes to

814
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 18: appear to be deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. That should

815
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Speaker 18: come as a surprise to no one. We have seen

816
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 18: the far left justify and celebrate murder, and it is

817
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 18: absolutely sick. Now it appears as though Tyler Robinson was

818
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 18: radicalized after university. We know that ammunition was engraved with

819
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 18: a reference to fascism. And again, hearing that piece of news,

820
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 18: you just think of every Democrat and every mainstream media

821
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Speaker 18: outlet that has labeled Donald Trump a fascist, and you know,

822
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 18: we are seeing so many parts of the far left

823
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Speaker 18: celebrate murder.

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Speaker 6: It makes me absolutely sick.

825
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Speaker 18: But as your reference to his personal life, we know

826
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Speaker 18: that he appears to now be dating or being a

827
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Speaker 18: romantic relationship with someone who was transitioning genders, appears to

828
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Speaker 18: be a big supporter of Joe Biden. And also Robinson

829
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Speaker 18: himself had a fixation on Furri's reader.

830
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Speaker 3: Yes, and again.

831
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Speaker 4: That's some interesting reading there, but we won't get into that.

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Speaker 3: I want to speak a little bit more about Charlie.

833
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: He was all about dialogue, about the importance of maintaining

834
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 4: civil debate with your ideological opponents. Who would talk to

835
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Speaker 4: anybody who was always about the issue, not attacking the person.

836
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Speaker 4: And he was happy to be the butt of jokes himself.

837
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Speaker 4: Look at his reaction to a South Park episode that

838
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 4: featured someone very much like himself.

839
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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, what is your definition

840
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Speaker 3: of a woman?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, putting down the mic in between the question that

842
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 12: is like put that is pure art south Park?

843
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Speaker 1: What is man, what what is the woman?

844
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Speaker 17: It's a very supple question.

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Speaker 3: Well a woman. He's a lady for and you know.

846
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Speaker 17: Casey, you see, you can't answer the question. But something

847
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 17: is male or it is female. Both sides of the

848
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 17: scripture agree to that, and that's just the truth. That's

849
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Speaker 17: oh gee.

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Speaker 12: I think the whole thing is just awesome and hilarious.

851
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Speaker 4: Unlike the angry Left, he wasn't afraid to laugh at himself,

852
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Speaker 4: even if the characterization was pretty harsh.

853
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Speaker 17: Did you call the girls soccer team a Marxist in doctrination?

854
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: Doctory? That is correct?

855
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 3: We actually beat the fust dont of nothing.

856
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 17: You know, you can fine about American oppression all you want,

857
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 17: but you're using an iPhone made by the free market

858
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 17: to complain about a system they gave it to you.

859
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 17: Girls have it way easy in America. And that's just

860
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 17: the truth.

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Speaker 12: The girl reading off the phone, by the way, with

862
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Speaker 12: like the angry, like live face, like blah blah blah,

863
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Speaker 12: I'm reading it's just perfect.

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Speaker 4: He was special, Gab, There's not any I can't think

865
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Speaker 4: of anyone else like him who was just such a

866
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: happy warrior, who would just maintain his calm in the

867
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Speaker 4: face of all sorts of ugliness all.

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Speaker 18: The time, and we saw that. I love the clip

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Speaker 18: you just played, reader, I mean, it just really speaks

870
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Speaker 18: to his character and his brilliant personality. He was happy

871
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 18: to laugh at himself, and he was such a great

872
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 18: example to young people, especially to young men. I mean,

873
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 18: he was so clear on his values. He really spoke

874
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 18: up for being principled, for fighting for what you believe

875
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 18: in with words, not with violence. And that clip of

876
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Speaker 18: him just laughing there at himself on South Park, I

877
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Speaker 18: mean it says so much about him. He was such

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Speaker 18: a brilliant man and he's going to be so so missed.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's a good way to remember him. Gabriella Pawe,

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Speaker 4: thank you so much for your time, and that's all

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Speaker 4: the time we have. Newsnight is up next