WEBVTT - Outsiders | 16 March

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<v Speaker 1>This is outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders, the show that is

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<v Speaker 2>to combating woke identity politics and lefty lunacy on steroids

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<v Speaker 2>wherever we find it.

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<v Speaker 1>What a stroll across.

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<v Speaker 2>The White House lawn is to an excitable four year

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<v Speaker 2>old boy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is the clip that stole the hearts of

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<v Speaker 3>the Internet yesterday as Elon Mask's little boy X got

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<v Speaker 3>to hang out with the.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty seventh president. And doesn't he just look delighted?

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<v Speaker 5>And indeed, guys, who can blame him for not waiting

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<v Speaker 5>around for his dad when hey look at that he's

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<v Speaker 5>got a real great, big helicopter to ride on.

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<v Speaker 1>Just imagine in an alternative universe that could have been Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden staggering across the White House lawn sniffing his granddaughter's hair.

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<v Speaker 2>And while you ponder that frightening thoughts, let's grab the

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<v Speaker 2>latest outside his news. Well, Rita and James, Australian businesses

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<v Speaker 2>have suffered the sharpest annual fall engross operating margins in

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<v Speaker 2>a quarter of a century. Great work, Charmers, great work, Albaniasi,

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<v Speaker 2>great work Bowen. You guys are a complete and absolute failure.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty one percent spike in gas prices. Seriously, Rita, the

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<v Speaker 2>disasters just mount up from this bunch of clowns.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is talking about the fact that we've had

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<v Speaker 3>a per capita recession for consecutive quarters, and nobody seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be too concerned about that. We are in a

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<v Speaker 3>recession in the way that it matters most. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 3>can bring in hundreds of thousands of people here every

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<v Speaker 3>year and pop up the GDP figures and make it

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<v Speaker 3>look like we've got all this economic activity and we've

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<v Speaker 3>got growth, But what matters is how it's impacting people's lives,

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<v Speaker 3>and those per capita figures revealed that we've had a

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<v Speaker 3>sharp fall in our living standards. And it's not just households,

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<v Speaker 3>as these figures show, Australian businesses have suffered the sharpest

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<v Speaker 3>fall in gross operating margins in twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 4>And you mentioned gas prices. That's got a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>We are sitting on abundant gas reserves Victorian particular. I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote about this during the week, potentially sitting on hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of years of gas reserves. But the Victorian constitution has

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<v Speaker 3>been changed thanks to the feckless lips down there who

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<v Speaker 3>joined with Labor to do.

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<v Speaker 4>That a few years back.

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<v Speaker 3>So fracking is banned and no future state gouvern it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be able to reverse that crazy policy without

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<v Speaker 3>change of the constitution, which will be almost impossible to

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<v Speaker 3>do because Labor is never going to vote with the

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<v Speaker 3>limbs to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so this is all self inflicted.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't due to COVID, it's not due to international issues.

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<v Speaker 3>This is policies that have been made in this country

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<v Speaker 3>that have disadvantage.

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<v Speaker 2>Each It all comes back to net zero. It all

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<v Speaker 2>comes back to read to mention the constitution. They're in

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria changing but the constitution in Germany under the new

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<v Speaker 2>conservative government they didn't get the AfD. They've got this

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<v Speaker 2>conservative woke mob who have changed the German constitution to

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<v Speaker 2>put in net zero and climate change and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>And will be speaking to Ralph Sholhammer later in the

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<v Speaker 2>show about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to miss that. But James, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back going on in Australia.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a bigger problem though.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yes, you know you mentioned the living stamps

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<v Speaker 5>have gone back by almost ten percent since the Abany

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<v Speaker 5>government took power. We know that our economy has got

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<v Speaker 5>all sorts of problems, even though the numbers are kind

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<v Speaker 5>of spun by the government say.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, we're doing really, really well.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know you mentioned Rita a moment ago, the

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<v Speaker 5>feckless Libs in Victoria. Well, I'm starting to get a

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<v Speaker 5>little concerned here about the Libs federally as we head

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<v Speaker 5>into an election campaign which I presume is going to

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<v Speaker 5>be called next weekend, after the budget or the follow weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>But what I am concerned about here is that in

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<v Speaker 5>the absence of economic policies from the coalition to ease

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<v Speaker 5>the cost of living, and every single polster I speak

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<v Speaker 5>to they all say the same thing. Cost of living

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<v Speaker 5>and things related to cost of living and energy are

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<v Speaker 5>all the top one two, three plus plus plus issues

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<v Speaker 5>for voters. The Liberals aren't answering that. Sure they've got nuclear,

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<v Speaker 5>but that hasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>Come online for ten or twenty years.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have anything about net zero, getting energy out

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<v Speaker 5>of the ground, any of the sort of things that

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<v Speaker 5>will bring costs down in the here and now.

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<v Speaker 2>Look what they're concentrating on. So Peter Dutton is called

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<v Speaker 2>for Chris Bowen to be sacked. Well, you know, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and Chriss He's always been the secret. I remember keep

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<v Speaker 2>Pitt on this show years ago saying no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, keep Bowen in place, and there is the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing go.

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<v Speaker 2>But have listened to Peter Dutton calling for Bowen to

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<v Speaker 2>be sacked, and then will also play you Bowen's genius.

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<v Speaker 7>Response shows the need to keep on going more than

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<v Speaker 7>ever before, with the plan to introduce more of the cheapest,

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<v Speaker 7>most reliable form of energy for Australians, and that of

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<v Speaker 7>course is renewable energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we'll show you Peter Dutton in the second.

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<v Speaker 2>But basically there's Bowen still flogging this horse going on on.

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<v Speaker 2>The horse is dead, Chris, it's not moving. Your renewables

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<v Speaker 2>ain't working. It's driving the cost of energy up. You're

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<v Speaker 2>never going to drive it down. And there they're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, if you had call, it's going to be Marksman.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a nonsense. How can anybody read to believe a

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<v Speaker 2>word that this mob say?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, sadly many still do, because so much of our

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<v Speaker 3>media just regurgitates this absolute nonsense uncritically and just defies reality.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that we are all living this experience. We

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<v Speaker 3>have seen it happen overseas. Now we're seeing it happen

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<v Speaker 3>here where you invest in enormously in renewables, the new

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<v Speaker 3>infrastructure prices skyrocket, reliability goes down, and you make it

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<v Speaker 3>so much harder for anybody who's in fossil fuels to

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<v Speaker 3>actually and then you complain about cold stations having it. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>what idiot would invest in that when the state and

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<v Speaker 3>federal governments are just pumping up taxes saying this is

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<v Speaker 3>an obsolete industry, And then they complain about oh, well.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, beyond that, beyond that, you know, like and

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, we're talking about tariffs the lead of the show,

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<v Speaker 5>but the thing is too you know, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 5>this sort of thing where we're going to go and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, do a deal with the Americans over critical

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<v Speaker 5>minerals and all the things we can get out of

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<v Speaker 5>the ground that the Americans want, except though the federal

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<v Speaker 5>and state governments make it so hard to get anything

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<v Speaker 5>out of the ground. So if you want to do

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<v Speaker 5>any of the sort of the mining or extraction that

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<v Speaker 5>you know they say is so critical that we can

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<v Speaker 5>use to leverage in a trade deal, a new trade

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<v Speaker 5>agreement with the United States, well, you know, tell you what, that's.

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<v Speaker 6>Not going to happen anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 5>But to come back to the big issue here, but

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<v Speaker 5>our economy the other issue. And we've got a budget

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<v Speaker 5>coming up in a little over a week here, and

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<v Speaker 5>we are going to see in that budget a whole

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<v Speaker 5>new swag of handouts by the government. So what this

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<v Speaker 5>government is doing, let's be really clear about this. They

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<v Speaker 5>have policies that make your life more expensive, and then

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<v Speaker 5>they have high taxes to take some of that money

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<v Speaker 5>and give that back to you so that everybody feels like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you, we've gotten some relief. Now the opportunity here

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<v Speaker 5>for the Liberals to say, no, we're going to let

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<v Speaker 5>you keep more of your money, We're going to cut

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<v Speaker 5>your taxes, we're going to cut your regulatory burden, and

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<v Speaker 5>we are going to stop this renewable nonsense. Because if

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<v Speaker 5>you think about the idea of spending hundreds of billions

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<v Speaker 5>of dollars for a transmission rid for twenty seven million people, well,

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<v Speaker 5>my god, our parent prais is going to go up

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<v Speaker 5>until we are all bankrupt if we keep doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>The opportunity here for the Coalition to really return to

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<v Speaker 5>that free market, tax cutting, pro growth, grow our way

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<v Speaker 5>out of the debt dough text our way out of

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<v Speaker 5>the debt ideology, I think is huge for them. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really looking forward to Peter Dunn's budget reply speech

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<v Speaker 5>because that is going to be his opportunity and if

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<v Speaker 5>he misses that it's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To be they will miss it. They will miss it.

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<v Speaker 2>James, I wish I could share your faith that they won't.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're in this opportunity for the simple reason. The

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<v Speaker 2>single biggest, dopiest thing that the Liberals have done is

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<v Speaker 2>to commit to staying in the Paris Agreement and committing

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<v Speaker 2>to net zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Because James is.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent right read there is one hundred percent correct.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the thing that is destroying our economy. Being

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<v Speaker 2>in net zero. Being in Paris about tariffs.

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<v Speaker 6>Every single aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>Of your life, of your business life, everything your family does,

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<v Speaker 2>every holiday, every car you every time you get in

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<v Speaker 2>the car, every time you go to the shops.

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<v Speaker 1>You are being hit with a net zero tariff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a massive tariff on every single aspect of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Subsidies are just tariffs.

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<v Speaker 2>So the so don't faff around about worrying about a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of steel and aluminium tarfs. We have self imposed

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<v Speaker 2>on our own economy, massive net zero tariffs, which are

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<v Speaker 2>driving our economy into the ground. Unless the Liberals come

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<v Speaker 2>out and say we are pulling out of Paris, we're

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<v Speaker 2>following Donald Trump's example. We're going to do what the

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<v Speaker 2>entire industrialized world is doing. We're moving away from net

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<v Speaker 2>zero and we're concentrating on cheap energy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the only way forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Reta yes, and Peter Data needs to be bolder. He

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<v Speaker 3>needs to stop being meek. He needs to find that

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<v Speaker 3>voice mod show that he had where he was strong,

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<v Speaker 3>where he was articulating the Yet okay, but he's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to win an election on that. And the latest

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<v Speaker 3>News poll shows that the gap between him and Anthony

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<v Speaker 3>Albanesi has widened in Anthony Albanese's favor and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that is a reflection of the fact that people still

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<v Speaker 3>don't know precisely what his plan for this country is.

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<v Speaker 3>And you mentioned Netzira. I think one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 3>they are reluctant to pull out of Paris and say

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<v Speaker 3>we're abandoning this destructive policy is because he is frightened

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<v Speaker 3>of these Donald Trump comparisons. Instead of actually dismissing the

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<v Speaker 3>media dismissing the activist class and treating them with a

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<v Speaker 3>disdain they deserve. Like Donald Trump did and won in

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<v Speaker 3>a landslide. The liberals in this country, at state and

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<v Speaker 3>federal level are spooked by any sort of media backlash,

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<v Speaker 3>by any sort of activist backlash, and that's why they

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<v Speaker 3>will not come out. That's why they will match labor.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's what we're going to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Labor.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to go on a spending spree on this

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<v Speaker 3>budget to try their buy their way back into power

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<v Speaker 3>and to stay in power. And I think the Libs

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<v Speaker 3>are going to match it because we're too frightened not to.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is not the handso for a country.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's the deeper James I wrote to my Spectator

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<v Speaker 2>Australia editorial this week that Dutton must embrace Trump. Stop

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<v Speaker 2>running away from Trump, stop being scared of Trump, Stop

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<v Speaker 2>saying things like all you we're going to keep Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>right in there. Embrace the Trump philosophy. Why can't the

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<v Speaker 2>Libs understand that the blueprint is there for success all

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<v Speaker 2>they have to do. Why isn't Why isn't Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 2>on a plane to Washington, sitting there in the Oval

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<v Speaker 2>office with Donald Trump saying right, we're going to form

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<v Speaker 2>a government that you're going to want to do business with.

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<v Speaker 1>Why has Dutton not done that?

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<v Speaker 5>James, Well, yeah, I mean there's so many things that

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<v Speaker 5>he could be doing.

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<v Speaker 6>And you're absolute right.

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<v Speaker 5>The Kevin Rudd thing, by the way, I think we

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<v Speaker 5>need to talk a bit more about that, because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>having Kevin Rudd in that position. We said on this program,

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<v Speaker 5>we have all been saying it for months and months

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<v Speaker 5>and months since long before the election, that if Trump won,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, keeping Kevin Rudd there would be untenable and

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, there was no way that Rudd was

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<v Speaker 5>going to be able to get along with with with

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<v Speaker 5>with Donald Trump in the way.

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<v Speaker 6>With anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, yeah exactly, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>uh and so so you know, that would have been

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<v Speaker 5>such an uneasy win right there for the Albanesi government

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<v Speaker 5>too to do so, but they were too you know again,

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<v Speaker 5>they too were too terrified to do anything that that

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<v Speaker 5>would look like they were sort of you know, trying.

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<v Speaker 6>To do business here.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think also Albanese has been really very opportunistic

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<v Speaker 5>on this whole issue of tariffs. I think we need

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about that too, because you know, I think

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<v Speaker 5>the way that he has played up the division over

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<v Speaker 5>steel and alobinium tariffs here to create this sort of wedge,

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<v Speaker 5>opportunistic wedge between Australia and the United States to try

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<v Speaker 5>and make kid look like a tough leader for once,

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<v Speaker 5>for once, you know, nearly three years of his government here.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think that also needs to be called

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<v Speaker 5>out for the nonsense, savage and it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, these labor and green types should

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<v Speaker 3>be absolutely thrilled.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a tariff.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a carbon tax of types. This is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what they want. This is a suddenly their fossil fuel

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<v Speaker 3>enthusiasts and they want us to be reducing I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>give us a break. I mean talk about mixed messaging here,

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<v Speaker 3>and to pick a fire, to use this for some

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<v Speaker 3>cheap politics domestically to appeal to the rusted on base

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<v Speaker 3>who you know, this is his returning to his student

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<v Speaker 3>politics days, Anthony alb and easy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is actually weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Is happiest fighting Tories, fighting Trump get stuffed.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't good for the country. At the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day.

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<v Speaker 3>As Prime Minister, his number one priority is doing what's

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<v Speaker 3>best for Australian and Australians, and that means you have

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<v Speaker 3>to have a good relationship with America and have a

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<v Speaker 3>appreciation of the reality of where we are in that relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that Donald Trump won't even pick up the

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<v Speaker 3>phone jath Andy Albernezer right now, let alone have a

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<v Speaker 3>meeting speaks volumes this relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I say again, why this is Peter Dutton not on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone to Donald Trump. There's plenty of opportunities that

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton could be speaking to Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>They're forming that relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Why we had Susan Lay on the show before us

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<v Speaker 2>say not refusing to commit. What what the Libs should

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<v Speaker 2>be doing is saying we guarantee, we guarantee we will

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of these tariffs on the strength I can't

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<v Speaker 2>guarante they of course they can.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they can.

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<v Speaker 2>If they were any good, they would make more engage

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<v Speaker 2>it also because they would be on the phone, they

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<v Speaker 2>would be there, they would be sorting it up.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it should be.

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<v Speaker 2>The tariffs are irrelevant to to those you know Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what three percent of their aluminium, It's irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the thing is too, is that what Peter Dutt

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<v Speaker 5>should be doing and I would hope and I just

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<v Speaker 5>say that I hope. I don't know whether they're doing

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<v Speaker 5>it or not, but you would hope that the people

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<v Speaker 5>in the dut In Tea are making and using connections

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<v Speaker 5>between Australia and the Trump administration to start forging those

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<v Speaker 5>relationships right now and to be sending those messages up

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<v Speaker 5>the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, let's have a let's let's also talk about So

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<v Speaker 2>here's a classic example. So Kirs Starmer, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>hard left British Prime minister has actually adopted Donald.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump type policies.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've scrapped the NHS England that's called it's called

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<v Speaker 2>Project Chainsaw as the joking name they've given it. Starmer

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<v Speaker 2>came away so impressed from meeting Donald Trump that he

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<v Speaker 2>went back to his cabinet in Britain and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's let's actually get rid of some of the

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<v Speaker 2>bu roaucrats. Let's get little of the red tape that's

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<v Speaker 2>strangling Britain. Can you believe it reads a hard left

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<v Speaker 2>like Kirs Starmer copying Donald Trump. And here in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently the Libs are terrified to say yes, we want

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<v Speaker 2>to do what Trump's doing, That's what we want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think that's a reflection of the almost

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<v Speaker 3>uniformly awful US coverage we have in this country, where

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<v Speaker 3>to this day, the Donald Trump coverage is so unhinged,

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<v Speaker 3>so divorced from reality, ninety five percent of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>other than you know, possibly this program James and I.

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<v Speaker 3>It is just uniformly awful, ill informed, hyperbolic, just wrong

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<v Speaker 3>on so many levels. And I think they look at

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<v Speaker 3>that and say, you know that the public doesn't like

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump. It would be a disaster for Dutton and

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<v Speaker 3>Trump to be compared.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not going to work for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of actually getting on the front foot and making

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<v Speaker 3>the arguments, that's what you've.

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<v Speaker 4>Got to do.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to you can't expect the media to do

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<v Speaker 3>that for you if you're a conservative. As for Kirstar Mar,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a sa roh and he may be, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>denouncing these sort of projects. I've got zero faith that

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<v Speaker 3>UK Labor is going to actually cut the bureaucracy, cut costs,

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<v Speaker 3>even if they have those intentions, because they make our

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<v Speaker 3>lot look like they're you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But my point is that even a hard lefty like

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<v Speaker 2>kill Starmer is not afraid to say, actually, what Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is doing in terms of reducing the cost of government

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<v Speaker 2>and the red tape and the green tape is necessary

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<v Speaker 2>to advance.

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<v Speaker 5>There is the most calculating political animal. You simply we know.

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<v Speaker 5>This is just like when you know he said, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to make moves to cut migration, because of course,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, his approval ratings were absolutely in the toilet,

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<v Speaker 5>and he knows that he's got to at least see

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<v Speaker 5>these things of what's stay in power. He will say

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<v Speaker 5>anything and do anything to stay in power. He didn't

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<v Speaker 5>leave any of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you say that, but they have cut they have

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<v Speaker 1>made moves against.

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<v Speaker 4>Alf on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>It was only like what a week two weeks ago

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<v Speaker 3>when he was pledging boots on the ground in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 4>And then literally in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Next sentence he said, with us support she knew would

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<v Speaker 3>never ever ever come under a Trumpet administration. But he

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<v Speaker 3>got to say that line and get all the praise

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<v Speaker 3>of the world's media as this great statesman, completely vacuous,

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<v Speaker 3>completely intellectually bad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, But I want to hear Peter Dutton getting

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<v Speaker 2>up there and embracing the Trump Revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Not running scared from it. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys, just don't run scared, full stop.

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<v Speaker 3>This seems to be a feature of conservatives in this country,

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<v Speaker 3>politicians who are from the center right. Where is the backbone,

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<v Speaker 3>Where is the courage, Where is the conviction? We saw

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<v Speaker 3>it during the Voice and they prevailed despite all the odds,

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<v Speaker 3>despite the fact that the yescamp had all the institutional support,

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<v Speaker 3>had all the money, had every celebrity sporting club, every bank,

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<v Speaker 3>every bloody mining company.

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<v Speaker 4>Except for Hancock Prospecting and a couple of others.

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<v Speaker 3>Despite all that, they still lost. And yet here we

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<v Speaker 3>are where they've running scared again. They've forgotten what just happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>Part of the problem courses, you know, in you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the parliamentary part, the party rooms in both the state

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<v Speaker 5>and federal level. You know, you've got these massive factions

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<v Speaker 5>of wet set of moderates too, that drag the policy

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<v Speaker 5>of the liberals to the left. So you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>base doesn't get a look in so often. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>we see this in New South Wales, and leadership comes

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<v Speaker 5>from the top.

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<v Speaker 2>If the leader of the Liberality was there embracing Trump

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<v Speaker 2>firmly rather than kind of seeing a bit gun shy

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<v Speaker 2>on the topic. That would make a huge difference. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk also, James, you've written about you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>the native title thing that suddenly exploded. Where is Dutton

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<v Speaker 2>on this? Dutton was so good on the voice, your

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<v Speaker 2>senses so great, Senators, you sent an amagimate price. We

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<v Speaker 2>now find out that compensation has been given pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>according to this new court ruling to basically anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>did anything at any point in a colonial history can

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<v Speaker 2>can grab some compose.

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<v Speaker 6>A couple of caveats on it.

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<v Speaker 5>It applies at this point only to the Northern Territory

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<v Speaker 5>and ACTI Commonwealth territories. But the precedent that this case

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<v Speaker 5>here says, this is the unipingu case, and it has

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<v Speaker 5>potentially huge financial implications because it means that now native

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<v Speaker 5>title is a monetizable thing that you can get compensation for.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you have a native.

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<v Speaker 5>Title claim, then suddenly the government or whoever had it

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<v Speaker 5>before can be on the hook for the.

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<v Speaker 6>Value of that.

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<v Speaker 5>We could be talking about billions and billions of dollars here.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a very dangerous piece of judicial activism here, and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's gone anywhere near enough attention in

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<v Speaker 5>the media because the implications this has for our extractive

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<v Speaker 5>industries and so many others, and for the government bottom

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<v Speaker 5>line overall, if these courts start to rule in this

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<v Speaker 5>direction could be devastating.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, also, it's something that's been brought up I think

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<v Speaker 2>one nation and tried to bring it up in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Past, which is put a cap on native title.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's it just say right, that's it done, dusted, next

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<v Speaker 2>June or whatever it is, that's it no more. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all over and done with by then. And the Liberal Party,

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<v Speaker 2>the Coalition should be coming forward. Yes, they've been pantat.

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<v Speaker 2>They would great on the voys, they've been fantastic saying

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<v Speaker 2>we only want one flag, we don't want the other

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<v Speaker 2>aboriginal flags at every single meeting, et cetera. Allth of

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<v Speaker 2>that's great, and just sent a nampajimper price looking into

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<v Speaker 2>dose like the excessive spending across governments, with particular reference

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<v Speaker 2>to the extraordinary spending we'd put into indigenous affairs without

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<v Speaker 2>any tangible results. But let's have the coalition come out

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<v Speaker 2>much stronger on something like this and say we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to put a cap on native title. That's it no

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<v Speaker 2>more because it is getting out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>We've also deportation is another thing where the Coalition could

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<v Speaker 1>be standing up.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton has kind of said, oh yeah, we might

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<v Speaker 2>have a referendum on deeportation of anti Semitic group, which

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<v Speaker 2>is great, but go further, go further, do what Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is doing in America where he's saying this.

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<v Speaker 1>Muhammad Mahmoud Khalil Khay he's out.

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<v Speaker 2>He was pushing anti Semitic protests and that at Columbia

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<v Speaker 2>University he's out.

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<v Speaker 6>Goodbye.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think that this is the.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing you can just you can just do things. You

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<v Speaker 5>don't need to say, oh we're going to have referendum,

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<v Speaker 5>you can just do me.

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<v Speaker 3>An utterly mad possibly the craziest thing I've heard all month,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's been a big month already. To have a

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<v Speaker 3>referendum on that, really, I think even just the notion

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<v Speaker 3>of a referendum will appall the overwhelming majority of Australians

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<v Speaker 3>who have just gone through the divisive voice referendum that

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<v Speaker 3>they never asked for. There was Alban easy forced upon them.

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<v Speaker 3>And then to have a referendum on this, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it is an utterly mad idea. And whoever told Peter

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<v Speaker 3>Dutch to run with this should be sacked immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the same probably the same person he said during

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<v Speaker 2>the voice. Oh, if you know, we'll have referendums every state.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we remember that nose?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we remember just.

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<v Speaker 4>Before that came to a position.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's just just that everybody who might not be across

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<v Speaker 5>what this Mohammad Khalil situation is. Muhammad Khalil was a

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<v Speaker 5>spokesman and a big organizer of the anti Semitic protests

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<v Speaker 5>at Columbia University Oliver Palestine. Now, these protests were not

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<v Speaker 5>just about oh, free Palestine, oh civilian casiaries. These protests

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<v Speaker 5>that went on in Columbia, they involved huge amounts of

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<v Speaker 5>property damage. They involved occupation of the campus Jewish students.

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<v Speaker 5>Jewish students had to barricade themselves in libraries and in

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<v Speaker 5>classrooms to prevent themselves from getting attacked by these mobs.

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<v Speaker 5>These these protests called for bringing the INTI fought a

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<v Speaker 5>Home i e. Violent terrorism to the United States. Khalil

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<v Speaker 5>was on a green card. He has been arrested and

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<v Speaker 5>he is booted from the country. Good, There's been many more.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know John Howard here in this country. He

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<v Speaker 5>set the formula for Austrae and migration. And when you

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<v Speaker 5>are coming into this country, we decide who comes here.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, if you are somebody who's going

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<v Speaker 5>to come here and you are going to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>free speech is one thing, but this was well beyond

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<v Speaker 5>free speech, well beyond free speech. And if you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to come here and you're going to act like this,

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<v Speaker 5>then you know what, you are not good for the country,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not good for the community, and you are quite

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<v Speaker 5>welcome to get back on a plane. And if you

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to get on a plane, we will take

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 5>you and put you on that plane. It's a very

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 5>simple thing. And I don't know why there isn't just

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<v Speaker 5>total moral clarity on this issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely issue that's got nothing to do with that, but it.

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<v Speaker 5>Is because we have these same protesters here who are

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<v Speaker 5>we do at our universities who occupied campuses, who are

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<v Speaker 5>from other countries and booted out.

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<v Speaker 4>Were not citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>And you don't need to have a referendum on this

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<v Speaker 3>issue that is existing at provisions.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's incredible with the case you just describe that

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats who have just become trying to make themselves

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<v Speaker 3>even more unelectable. They are absolutely standing with this Islamist

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<v Speaker 3>in saying you shouldn't be deported. This is an act

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<v Speaker 3>of fascism. And some of the language coming from some

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats is absolutely astonishing and they're doubling down in that

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<v Speaker 3>support and it is just hugely unpopular. But yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats for you, and for the Coalition to be

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<v Speaker 3>flirting with another referendum.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care how righteous the idea is.

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<v Speaker 2>So the message there is Coalition viewers, coalition watchers, coalition

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<v Speaker 2>advisors are out there. Please you've got an election coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we please have some voice, like strong policies from

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<v Speaker 2>your leader Peter Dutton going into this election. That's what

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 2>the voters of Australia want. And you can win in

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<v Speaker 2>a landslide if you do. After the break Reader's Reality Innity, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Watching Outsiders with your host Rowan rambunctious stem names prodigal

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<v Speaker 3>Son Morrow and I'm Rita Panaghy and soon we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>looking into us some of the modern lefts collectively losing

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<v Speaker 3>their tenuous grip on reality. But first this week you

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<v Speaker 3>would have seen headlines and extensive coverage on a silly

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<v Speaker 3>American girl who became among the most hated people in

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<v Speaker 3>Australia after posting this footage of herself man handling a

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<v Speaker 3>baby wombat.

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<v Speaker 6>Look at the mother. It's like, oh, cha'ts it after?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, mama's right there and she's pissed.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let them go, all right, social media influencer Sam

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<v Speaker 3>Jones their Joey in front of the cameras. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to say watching that, as an animal lover, I was

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely disgusted. You can see the animal's distressed mother following her,

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<v Speaker 3>and no wonder Australians were furious and demanding this girl

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<v Speaker 3>be deported, and as I wrote in their Old Son,

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 3>those calls for deportation were numerous.

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<v Speaker 4>And entirely valid. Begone woman, and she is.

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<v Speaker 3>But the only thing that could be said in her

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<v Speaker 3>favor is that there was no malice in her actions.

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<v Speaker 4>She's stupid, not cruel.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't some sociopath getting a thrill from terrifying a

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<v Speaker 3>helpless animal, and the Joey and its mother were soon

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<v Speaker 3>reunited unharmed. It was a very different story a few

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, when footage of a South Australian police officer

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<v Speaker 3>whyalon John Cowx doning a terrified one back to death

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<v Speaker 3>by hurling large rocks at it went viral. That seconing

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<v Speaker 3>footage was enough to have the officer come under police attention.

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<v Speaker 4>You think it'd be sacked and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know, charged in prison for such splatant animal cruelty.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, that's not what happened, and I'll explain why

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<v Speaker 3>shortly now. The video of that killing is too distressing

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<v Speaker 3>naturally to show you here. But in the footage, the

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 3>off duty police officer throws rock after rock, hitting the

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<v Speaker 3>helpless animal and causing it to topple over. He then

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<v Speaker 3>raises his arms in triumph and smiles at the camera

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<v Speaker 3>as the animal struggles on the ground. It really was,

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind, unspeakably cruel. But despite the entire incident

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>being on camera, the footage going viral, and authority is

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 3>assuring us there that they would act, well, nothing happened

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<v Speaker 3>to the officer because it emerged that he is indigenous

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<v Speaker 3>and his behavior is protected.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, he escaped any sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Of punishment because the heinous behavior I just described is

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<v Speaker 3>protected under the Native Title Act. You see, under this act,

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<v Speaker 3>indigenous Australians are permitted to hunt species that are otherwise protected,

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<v Speaker 3>and that includes using methods that can be disturbingly cruel.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what allowed the wombat killer to dodge charges.

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<v Speaker 3>The South Australian Police Commissioner Grant Stevens released a statement

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<v Speaker 3>at the time explaining why officer John Cock wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>charged or face disciplinary action beyond being counseled over his use.

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<v Speaker 4>Of social media.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, the Commissioner Grant said, as a traditional Aboriginal man,

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<v Speaker 3>the senior Community Constable has an appropriate permit to hunt

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<v Speaker 3>wombats for food, even if you believe the wombat was

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<v Speaker 3>killed to be eaten. It's shameful that we have a

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<v Speaker 3>legal system with two sets of rules depending on one's

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<v Speaker 3>skin color or ethnicity. Wombats are not the only protected

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 3>species that are killed in this The unchecked, unmonitored cruelty

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 3>of traditional hunting results in protected jw goongs and even

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<v Speaker 3>endangered endangered sea turtles being routinely slaughtered on Australian shores.

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<v Speaker 3>It's wrong, it's a national disgrace and it has to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton should tackle this issue head on. If we've

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<v Speaker 3>learnt anything this week is that Australians feel very strongly

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<v Speaker 3>about animal cruelty.

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<v Speaker 4>It is an.

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<v Speaker 3>Issue that crosses political lines and it's time our laws

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<v Speaker 3>were consistent. The Native Title Act must be changed to

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<v Speaker 3>reflect modern Australian values.

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<v Speaker 1>Great stuff, Thanks Riza well joining us.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you believe it's five years since the whole COVID

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<v Speaker 2>nightmare began? This coming Tuesday, March eighteenth, that's when they're

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>all all the nightmare began. Tony Nikolich was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the great fighters against the insanity of COVID. Throughout those

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<v Speaker 2>horrible years. He was often here on Outsiders. I'm proud

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 2>to say where we supported him and he supported so

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>many people out there who were struggling to get some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of justice during the insane COVID nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this week the Human Rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Commission, who were completely absent, totally silent, and he may

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<v Speaker 2>as well have not existed during the entire COVID period.

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<v Speaker 2>Now five years later, have gone, oh, oh, hang on, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we've released a report. Oh we've found that Australians from

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<v Speaker 2>all walks of life were adversely affected. You don't say so,

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<v Speaker 2>Human Rights Commission, well spotted, great job.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you get an F plus for effort.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Tony Nicholae.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to see you again. As always, you did such

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing job. So many people owe you so much

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>for how you stood up fought throughout the law, the

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<v Speaker 2>legal system to help people who'd been lost there jobs

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<v Speaker 2>and COVID mandate's vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's all of that hell is stuff. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you make of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Australian Human Rights Commission five years? I go, oh, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some human rights were trampled on during this period.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, so thanks.

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<v Speaker 9>For having me on and it's a lovely day today.

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<v Speaker 10>But the way I see it is you're absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 10>It's very little too late. Unfortunately, it's a case of

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<v Speaker 10>fixing your bayonets charging out of the trench when the

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<v Speaker 10>guns on the West and Front have already fallen silent.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 10>And in that sense, I think you're absolutely right. We

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 10>have been fighting this from the start. Give you an

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 10>indication it's still going on. Okay, these legal challenges. I'm

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 10>still in court for employment relations. You know, we have

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<v Speaker 10>police officers who were subjected to know Section one D

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 10>notices that are really reserved for police officers engaging in

0:32:56.240 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 10>serious misconduct and corruption. We have Airlines staff who have

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<v Speaker 10>been terminated. It's a tragedy to think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>five years on and we were as you know, we're

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<v Speaker 10>on your show how many times and in the media.

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<v Speaker 10>I've done many submissions. You can go to my website

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 10>and you'll see further submissions both in many inquiries. The

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<v Speaker 10>way I see it is truth is knowledge held backed

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<v Speaker 10>by power, and we're starting to see this salami slicing

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<v Speaker 10>of truth. But that was brought forward in cases as

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<v Speaker 10>evidence as scientific knowledge.

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<v Speaker 9>Follow the science. Well we followed the science. They didn't

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<v Speaker 9>follow the science.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet we've still got a majority of Australians backing

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<v Speaker 3>some of these policies.

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<v Speaker 4>This was disturbing.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't just authorities letting us down, but our fellow

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<v Speaker 3>citizens being such mindless sheep.

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<v Speaker 4>And there was a poll out just this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty seven percent i think was the figure of Australians

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<v Speaker 3>still back COVID vaccine mandates.

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<v Speaker 4>That that was the headline. How this this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is going to impact a generation two of Australians and

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<v Speaker 3>how we see ourselves, how the rest of the world

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 3>sees us too well.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 10>If you look at the fifty seven percent Let's put

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<v Speaker 10>that into one slight little context here, and that is

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<v Speaker 10>this is some of the largest criticisms we've faced over

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<v Speaker 10>the last five years has been censorship, and not just doctors, lawyers,

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<v Speaker 10>but many journalists and I know journalists who have been

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<v Speaker 10>calling my phones over the last five years, sant TONI.

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 10>We desperately want to get this out, but our network

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 10>editors aren't letting us do it. So and that was

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<v Speaker 10>something where we've even seen a forensic pathology report of

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 10>a fifty two year old chap that said they died

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 10>of COVID as a cause of sorry, a cause of

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 10>the fires, a vaccine that was suppressed, and the ABC

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 10>came out and actually gas lip the family who had

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 10>been fully vaccinated and their young sixteen year old son

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 10>was doing CPR and his father on the kitchen flool.

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<v Speaker 10>So what we're saying is the censorship. So that's that

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 10>fifty seven percent rat that you're talking about was the

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<v Speaker 10>result of a fully censored society where posts were being

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<v Speaker 10>pulled down.

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<v Speaker 9>Take that away, and that fifty.

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<v Speaker 10>Seven percent, dear, I say, could come down to about

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 10>seven percent because if people.

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<v Speaker 1>Really I think that's a great point. I think that's

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a great point, James.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I wonder about that, because people embraced the

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 5>fear message very quickly before we even you know, knew

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 5>what we were grappling with. There was a great deal

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 5>of enthusiasm for social distant restriction, wanting to be seen

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 5>to do the right thing, and there was a huge

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 5>sort of effort around that. But so much of that too,

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 5>we also now know was driven from overseas, and we

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 5>know it was driven by the Biden White House and

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 5>by you know, various organizations in the United States which

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 5>outwardly censored Twitter, all of these you know, social media

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 5>platforms and said things. It's like, you know, you can't

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 5>talk about where the virus came from. Are you concerned

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 5>about that official censorship of the question of where it

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.959
<v Speaker 5>came from? And how that completely changed the nature of

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 5>our response?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, absolutely, the nature of its origins. So we had

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 10>the Proximal Origins paper and that had a number of authors.

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 10>Fauci even had University of Sydney professors who.

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<v Speaker 9>Are on that.

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 10>I've done a number of foiis of which they're declining,

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 10>but I believe Shari Marksan's all over that one now,

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 10>which is a really good thing.

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 9>But what we were really quick to lock down.

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 10>We were really quick to mandate people based on that

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 10>international knowledge.

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 9>But when it came.

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<v Speaker 10>To that knowledge being forced through what was happening here

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 10>with respect to cases and subpoenas well, we knew it

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 10>didn't stop transmission, We knew it didn't confer immunity, it

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 10>didn't stop the hospitalizations, and it certainly didn't stop the deaths.

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 11>So what was all this about?

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<v Speaker 10>So the proximal origins, we had these lockdowns stating the economy.

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<v Speaker 10>Look at Victoria, it is absolutely devastated. Businesses have been closed, Sydney,

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.439
<v Speaker 10>businesses closed all around the country. We had people being

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 10>denied access to their loved ones. But now the Human

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 10>Rights Commission wants to come out, so we'll hang on

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 10>a second.

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.720
<v Speaker 9>There was something wrong? Well yeah, hello, absolutely.

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 2>And Tony, Tony, I want to focus in on that

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 2>point because the Human Rights Commission have come up and

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 2>said with this report, I suppose it's better than no report,

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, have come out and said, oh, you know,

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 2>we've got to do better next time. We've got to

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.760
<v Speaker 2>have better plans in place. But the reality is, Tony,

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 2>and you're fully aware of this. We had perfect plans

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 2>in place, Tony Abbott's plans. They were discarded in this

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 2>crazy panic. No one's ever got to the bottom of it.

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I've been calling for, and I know you have too,

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>a Royal commission into the abuse of power during COVID

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 2>because so many individuals at so many levels, in my

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 2>opinion of government, of the bureaucracies, health, buaucrasies and that

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 2>have so much to ask for the pain and the

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:05.240
<v Speaker 2>suffering they put through every day, put every day Australian

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 2>through Tony, tell us what you know, what can we

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>do to ensure this never happens again? And also, Tony,

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 2>how are the people still suffering that you're still supporting?

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Tell us about a couple of those all right.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, firstly, with respect the latter point, we have many, many,

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 10>many injured people and some deceased reports. So we have

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.760
<v Speaker 10>deceased people within twenty four hours of receiving the vaccine,

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 10>previously healthy firefighter for instance, okay, a rural firefighter. We

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 10>have a fifty two year old gentleman seven days after

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:44.879
<v Speaker 10>the deceased. Forensic pathology report was then denied by administrative

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 10>officers in the TGA as the cause I would have

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 10>thought a coroner had a little bit more sway than

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 10>an administrative person. In the TGA, we have people with

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 10>debilitate and I mean they can't walk. This is I

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 10>cannot see how this level of compassion that we used

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 10>to have as a country has gone. We have people

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 10>who are literally bedridden their body shape, they're in wheelchairs.

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 10>Where has our compassion gone? Irrespective of whether someone took

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 10>a vaccine or no vaccine, we have descended into this

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 10>mindless biss of It is absolutely morally ethically and legally bankrupt,

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 10>almost in the sense that we've left these people languishing

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 10>and we're saying, well, it's got nothing to do.

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 9>Well, yes it does. It absolutely does.

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 10>If you recall, all we had to do was get

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 10>a PCR test and you are confirmed diagnosed. But here

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 10>are people coming up with tests and they're almost putting

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 10>a criminal standard of beyond reasonable doubt to prove they've

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 10>been injured. This is not rule of law, this is

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 10>not justice, not procedural fairness, and it's definitely not.

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 9>A compassionate society.

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 10>We have absolutely deviated from that, and to that end,

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 10>I think that we really need to bring it back.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, we do need an inquiry. And I will tell

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<v Speaker 9>you one thing.

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<v Speaker 10>We're finding that there are people who sitting on government

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<v Speaker 10>agencies over here who were also sitting on large let's

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 10>call them advisory firms who also do business with government

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<v Speaker 10>to understand what's happening in the COVID sphere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think frightening absolutely those links just very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Jans.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just going to say, tell you, you know, one

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<v Speaker 5>of the things that always struck me during the pandemic

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 5>in those first months was we saw how bankrupt the

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 5>whole thing was, the.

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 6>Whole region was.

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 5>When you know, we were told we couldn't go and

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 5>visit each other at home, but then they allowed a

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 5>BLM protest on the streets of Sydney. I mean, we

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 5>knew that this was a political thing so early on,

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 5>and that you know, it wasn't really about distancing, it

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 5>was about control. Oh.

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely, iran an urgent injunction early on. It was dismissed,

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 10>but the injunction was to allow the Jewish community to

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 10>come out and blow you know, the shahafa during Russia Shana,

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 10>and there was also Christians and Jewish coming up because

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 10>what we found in some of the information that we

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 10>were getting back from the Beverergiclian government was that you

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 10>could go to Bunnings, you could go to an alcohol shop,

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 10>and you could go to a brothel, but you couldn't

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:09.240
<v Speaker 10>go to church.

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't even send.

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 10>A car and hear your sermon over a radio with

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 10>a car park distance between you. This is where I

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.399
<v Speaker 10>was saying, our society really needs to have a really good,

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 10>hard look at itself. And I really think the Christian

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 10>and Jewish community for standing up because a week or

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 10>two later Gladys purergically and had so much pressure on

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 10>her hands that she had to open up. But I

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 10>will say one thing if I can, on the only

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 10>issue of Tony Habit. Yes, he's been quite outspoken, and

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 10>good on him. He's come out, he's having a go.

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 10>He's telling us the way we should be looking at

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 10>this in the future.

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 9>There is a lot of work to be done.

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 10>We do need an unbiased and unfettered inquiry. And what

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 10>you want, you don't want, you know, all these other

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 10>people that were there cheerleading with their pomp poms, you know,

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 10>saying go you go you. We want people who are

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 10>really going to critically analyze this and who have been

0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 10>on the ground from day one.

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Well turn the nick. You've been an absolute legend.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 6>I know.

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I hear from so many people how hard you have

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 2>worked on their behalf and so on behalf of all

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 2>of those people. Thank you for your sterling efforts, Tony,

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 2>and keep up the great work because it's not over yet.

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 2>And thanks for coming on Outsiders, and we'll speak to

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 2>again to you soon.

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, Tony. Coming up after the break your

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>favorite net Zany.

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 2>Left you learn to see wacademia so much more Outsiders. Yes,

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.320
<v Speaker 2>you're watching Outsiders, and thank you so much for watching

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 2>us every Sunday morning.

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 1>We certainly do appreciate your company. Well, net Zany. The

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>insane world of.

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Net zero policies which just gets madder and crazier and stupider.

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 2>And the hypocrisy, the hypocrisy is off the charts when

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 2>it comes to anything to do with net zero. Rita

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 2>tell us about Mike canon Brooks.

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 3>This is possibly the best story you'll hear all week,

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 3>all year, the decade. It is you talk about hypocrisy.

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 3>This is weapon grade hypocrisy. This is incredible, This climate

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 3>change fanatic buying a private jet because obviously you know,

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.839
<v Speaker 3>flying first class is.

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Not what I love most.

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Is he talks about this deep internal conflict he had

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 3>before he made the decision.

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 4>But really this is a selfless decision.

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 3>We should be praising Mike cannon Brooks because let me

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:38.280
<v Speaker 3>read you the rationalization, and this is this is beautiful stuff,

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 3>because really he's brought himself a private jet to save

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 3>the environment. Of course, we all have je environment, he says,

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 3>It probably comes as no surprise. I have an extremely

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 3>rigorous carbon regime for all my flying, including using direct

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 3>air capture and sustainable fuels for the carbon and contrass

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 3>to far exceed my flight footprint. These options aren't practical

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 3>for commercial flights, but they're viable privately. This means my

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 3>flights actually have a net negative.

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 6>I think climate hero.

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Give the man a metal. He's saving that planet. Two

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 1>man saving private jet at the time.

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 2>If we all had a private jet, we'd all be

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 2>able to save the planet.

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 1>And ritatically, I want.

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 2>A private jets Sky Sky can someone at Sky by

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the three of us private jets and will help save

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the planet with our carbon capture.

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 1>And it gets better because, of course.

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Mike cannon Brooks can now fly down to the Formula One.

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>In his private jets to that. I don't know.

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 4>Williams team, is it?

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>James?

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 5>James tell us about it like wow, I said, this

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 5>is this is this is amazing to be here. So

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 5>of course this weekend we've got the marvelous F one

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 5>down in Melbourne, a wonderful event. But yes, he's sponsoring

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 5>a team of this motorsport. Now are these Rita? You

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 5>know we've both been to the F one? Are they

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.919
<v Speaker 5>when when you see the cars go around, they're kind

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 5>of making a noise that sounds like it's a petrol

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 5>legend And then you know that's before we get to

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.399
<v Speaker 5>the supercars and the porches and everything else that run

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 5>around all the day. But yeah, he's got an F

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 5>one team here. So let me get this straight.

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 6>readA.

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 5>You've got Mike cannon Brooks here, the technology billionaire who

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 5>goes on about the climate. He's sponsoring. He's our own

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 5>Gretath Thundberg. He's got very similar hair to Gretath Thundberg,

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:50.720
<v Speaker 5>and he's got and he's going down to Melbourne for

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 5>the F one, which is a motorsport. He's going on

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.280
<v Speaker 5>a private jet to save the planet. Of course, because

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 5>you get And it is also important to note, though

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 5>it is in absolute fairness to make canned Brooks, it

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 5>is very hard to find any commercial air service between

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:16.439
<v Speaker 5>busy air corridors in the world. And of course there's

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 5>also by canded Brooks whose actual physical land footprint of

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 5>his holdings and so on are absolutely.

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 4>Having point Piper, Now, well, I think you actually.

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 5>Brought two and knock them together memory service save the planet,

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 5>because then it reduces your footprint because you've just got

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:36.279
<v Speaker 5>one property spread over to things.

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 1>So you see, I think he's doing it all to

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 1>save the planet.

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 5>I feel like the temperature are you guys feeling the

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:42.839
<v Speaker 5>temperature drop already?

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 2>The thing is when he's not there, and when he's

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 2>not busy saving the planet with his private jet, he's

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 2>he has these wonderful plans to cover vast acreage miles

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 2>of the Northern Territory with solar panels, and.

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 5>Ye can read before we get to the great hydrogen

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, I always found this project that he had

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 5>to put all these solar panels in the Northern Territory

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.760
<v Speaker 5>and then run a great, big extension court the longest

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 5>successive corner you've ever founded. Buddings All the way to Singapore.

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:17.399
<v Speaker 5>And of course you know, well this is the idea. Now,

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 5>So here's the crazy idea about this here if you

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 5>think about the way the earth turns right, So just

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 5>as all the Singaporeans are getting home from work and

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 5>turning on their lives and want to run their air

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:32.399
<v Speaker 5>conditioners because you need your air conditioner in Singapore, it's

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 5>getting dark in the northern territory. So this is I mean,

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:39.800
<v Speaker 5>this wouldn't be a year six science project.

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Look that this man is a billionaire, and.

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I think if we must bow out to hillionaire if

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 3>we've learned anything, kids, if you're listening, anyone could be

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 3>a billionaire, don't that. You know what, if you're getting

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 3>marks that really aren't what your parents want, if you're

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 3>sort of you know, not coming up with the ideas,

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:00.760
<v Speaker 3>you've got an ambish you can still make it because

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 3>if you've got someone with this sort of rationalization, with

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:07.439
<v Speaker 3>these sort of ideas, brilliant and it has got more

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 3>money than anyone could ever need. So maybe this just

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 3>shows what a greatest country Australia is.

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 1>This is the opportunity.

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, also, the only way that he can save the

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 2>planet is by flying that jet because it's no good.

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>The carbon capture doesn't work if it's sitting on the runway.

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 6>No no, no, no, no, no, no.

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 5>You've got you've got to fly, fly somewhere.

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 6>I recommend it.

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Something I was thinking.

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 4>An empty around the world.

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Might just no, no, no, I think Mike hop on

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a plane to Los Angeles. Well, because the billionaires there

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 2>have discovered that the volatile organic compounds released into the

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 2>air while cooking food contributes to potentially.

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Harmful O zone poll pollution.

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 2>This is the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration research to

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 2>stop this is.

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Cooking is frying the planet.

0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.919
<v Speaker 2>So it's not global boiling, like Anthony Gueterra says, it's

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>global cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>Of global cooking has no.

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<v Speaker 6>Rowing row ro rod. This is this is beyond that.

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<v Speaker 5>This is so so basically all of your cooking smells

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<v Speaker 5>in your kitchen. You know, first they were coming for

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<v Speaker 5>the gas stove. They were saying, oh, the gas stove,

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<v Speaker 5>it's you know, the emissions of that. That's you've got

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<v Speaker 5>to use this electric you know, induction thing which you

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<v Speaker 5>can't steak on because they're terrible. You know, you're we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna make you do that because you can't have gas.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, no, the Stak spells too good already. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's actually what's killing the planet. So it's not Antonio

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<v Speaker 5>good Terrace here, it is Klaus. But he is saying,

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<v Speaker 5>is you've been eat the buns?

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<v Speaker 6>Would you've been?

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<v Speaker 5>Eat them rare buns?

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<v Speaker 6>I've got a plan. I'm going to plan.

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<v Speaker 2>What Mike cannon Brooks could do is do the cooking

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<v Speaker 2>on his plane, on his private jets the gallery around

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<v Speaker 2>the well, doing all the cooking on his private jets,

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<v Speaker 2>land down, feed all the billionaires who can't cook in

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<v Speaker 2>Aldus committee. There you get here, Mike canon Brooks, you're

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<v Speaker 2>under all winner, their mate.

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<v Speaker 1>Go for it, saving the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>We can all breathe easily thanks to Mike canon Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take a short break.

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<v Speaker 2>But when we come back, but just before we do,

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<v Speaker 2>have a quick look at this. Sorry, just guys, just

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<v Speaker 2>have a quick look at this little grad I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>of the pandemic. This is I wanted to play this

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<v Speaker 2>during Tony Nikolic. This is just to remind us how

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<v Speaker 2>the during the pandemic, all the mask wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>Was such a bit of theater. Have a look at it.

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<v Speaker 12>Have a look.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, You're watching Outsiders with Rita Persian Princess Panahee, James

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<v Speaker 2>Manhattan born and bred Morrow, and myself Rowan, Ossie, Larak

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<v Speaker 2>and Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great boasts of Australia is.

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<v Speaker 2>That we are the world's most successful multi cultural melting pot,

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<v Speaker 2>attracting ethnicities and cultures from all across the world to

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<v Speaker 2>live together in peace and harmony under our beautiful Southern skies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet yesterday our Labor Prime Minister Anthony in Albanize, he

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<v Speaker 2>felt compelled to release this letter to the Australian people,

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<v Speaker 2>headlined International Day to Combat Islamophobia, in which he commits

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<v Speaker 2>Australians to standing firm against any expression or act of

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<v Speaker 2>hatred or hostility towards the Muslim community, which is presumably

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<v Speaker 2>the current definition of Islamophobia. Mister Albanesi then feels compelled

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<v Speaker 2>to reference the horrible New Zealand Mosque shootings of several

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, in which fifty one people were horrifically killed,

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<v Speaker 2>before going on to praise the Muslim community in Australia

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<v Speaker 2>for their contribution to our country, and finally he urges

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<v Speaker 2>all Australians to celebrate our diversity and our inclusive spirit, which,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest, is all a little bit vague. Christ

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<v Speaker 2>Church shootings were horrific and yes, committed by a lunatic Aussie,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was in New Zealand and was quite a

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<v Speaker 2>while ago, not Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>But the letter does kind of lead one wondering what.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it precisely that mister Albanizi wants every day Australians

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<v Speaker 2>to combat, Or to put it more literally, what does

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<v Speaker 2>combating Islamophobia actually entail? Where do every day Australians draw

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<v Speaker 2>the magical line between legitimate criticism and aspects of political Islam,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, criticizing Katari money being used within Western universities

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<v Speaker 2>to fund pro Palestinian protests, or legitimate criticism of aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of cultural Islam for example, he ant racism culture that

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<v Speaker 2>fueled the covering up of the horrific rep gangs of Rotherham,

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<v Speaker 2>or the ongoing debate in the UK about marrying cousins,

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<v Speaker 2>or even dare one say it, legitimate criticisms of aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of the religion of Islam thank God. For example, the

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<v Speaker 2>late great cartoonist Bill Leak woke up to find a

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<v Speaker 2>fat wire on his head for a cartoon he'd done

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<v Speaker 2>depicting the prophet Muhammad. Seeing as this combating Islamophobia letter

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<v Speaker 2>was put out by the Prime Minister, let's simply focus

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<v Speaker 2>on the political aspects of Islam and leave aside the

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<v Speaker 2>cultural and religious, although of course they do all overlap.

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<v Speaker 2>What criticism of political Islam should we avoid for fear

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<v Speaker 2>of being labeled islamophobic? Is it legitimate and important political

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<v Speaker 2>free speech to point out, for instance, as this person

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<v Speaker 2>did on x that the head of the UK Justice System,

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<v Speaker 2>the newly appointed head of the UK Office for Standards

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<v Speaker 2>in Education, and the Mayors of London and the Mayor

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<v Speaker 2>of Brighton are all avowed and practicing Muslims. Or is

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<v Speaker 2>pointing this fact out an example of Islamophobia? Perhaps the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister could enlighten us. In the case of Hamid Patel,

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<v Speaker 2>the new chairman of OFFSTED, that's the standards of education

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<v Speaker 2>in England. There were many astonished tweets when that was

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<v Speaker 2>announced this week, one of the politer ones of which stated,

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<v Speaker 2>everything that British children learn in schools from now on will.

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<v Speaker 1>Go through this man. Just wow? Is that islamophobic?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it islamophobic to show this clip of British

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<v Speaker 2>protests against high levels of mainly Muslim immigration a legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>political story, or is showing a clip like that islamophobic?

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<v Speaker 1>Again?

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps the Prime Minister could enlighten us. Here's a clip

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<v Speaker 2>posted on next showing a long queue of young Muslim

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<v Speaker 2>men in Dublin heading into an Islamic education center. It's

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<v Speaker 2>had over a million views. Why you decide now?

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<v Speaker 13>Is Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill So is showing a clip like that islamophobic or

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<v Speaker 2>of legitimate political or even cultural interest?

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<v Speaker 1>Again, perhaps the Prime Minister could enlighten us?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it islamophobic to show clips like this of

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<v Speaker 2>churches across Europe converted to mosques? Should Christians or other

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<v Speaker 2>religions be concerned at the march of Islam across many

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<v Speaker 2>nations speaking over Hallowed ground? Is of islamophobic to show

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<v Speaker 2>this clip of Ramadan being celebrated out of all places,

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<v Speaker 2>Lord's cricket ground? Or how about this story from America

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<v Speaker 2>this week from Patterson in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 11>But I'm all local.

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<v Speaker 9>Ramada Momora.

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<v Speaker 14>Patterson is proud to have the largest Muslim population in

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<v Speaker 14>the state of New Jersey, and we are a better

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<v Speaker 14>city because Muslim's. Paul Patterson, Paul and as you can

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<v Speaker 14>see here in South Patterson on Palestine Way, we are

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<v Speaker 14>proud to light the Hellal something that has inspired other cities.

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<v Speaker 2>That's in the US, of course, the other great melting

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<v Speaker 2>pot nation. But is that a positive example of say assimilation?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what we should be looking forward to in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia mayors, councils and even towns potentially becoming predominantly Muslim.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not the one who said it, but I've heard

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<v Speaker 11>people say that Patterson.

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<v Speaker 14>Is probably the fourth most halal, the holiest city in.

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<v Speaker 11>The world.

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<v Speaker 14>Jerusalem, Mecca, Medina and Patterson, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello Hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds a bit like colonialism to me, But is its

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<v Speaker 2>Islama fed to say? Here's Douglas Murray speaking last year

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<v Speaker 2>about the pro Palestinian demonstrations occurring every weekend and disrupting

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<v Speaker 2>normal London life.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't know why we have given in to Islamists

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<v Speaker 15>and terrorists. I don't know why we've done it. Why

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<v Speaker 15>is it that Saturday after Saturday people parade through the

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<v Speaker 15>streets of London calling for jihad, praising Hamaz, praising terrorists,

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<v Speaker 15>and clambering over and defiling our.

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<v Speaker 1>Sacred war monuments. Why do they get to do that

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<v Speaker 1>every Saturday. Good question, Douglas.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it islamophobic Prime Minister to even ask such questions?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Anthony Albanezi should enlighten us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how about when the Italian Prime Minister Georgie Maloney

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<v Speaker 2>said this.

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<v Speaker 4>You're benso problematic compatibilita lamiga.

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<v Speaker 2>Lamigashiw so saying if your Italian is not quite up

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<v Speaker 2>to scratch. She was basically saying that Islam is not

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<v Speaker 2>compatible with Italian culture, of Western culture and so on.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is islamophobic to say that, perhaps, mister Albaneze,

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<v Speaker 2>you might care to enlighten us on that issue or

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<v Speaker 2>indeed call out his Italian counterpart.

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<v Speaker 1>For Islamophobia if that's what he believes.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is this slightly blunt acclaim made earlier this month

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<v Speaker 2>by a religious.

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<v Speaker 1>Figure, Bishop Athanasius Schneider. Is this legitimate political discourse?

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<v Speaker 16>This is very serious, no way of witnessing and invasion.

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<v Speaker 16>They are not refugees. No, this is invasion of mass,

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<v Speaker 16>Islamisition of Europe, which already event on for at manymum

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<v Speaker 16>fifty sixty years islamisition in Europe. But no, it is

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<v Speaker 16>in Mass, which is very evident and so this is

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<v Speaker 16>a global political agenda by the powerful of the world

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<v Speaker 16>to destroy Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he correct or are those comments by the bishop

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<v Speaker 2>deemed to be Islamophobia? Please enlighten us Prime Minister, because

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<v Speaker 2>as sure as night follows day, the current vast influx

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<v Speaker 2>of Muslim migrants into this country will most likely have

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<v Speaker 2>the same consequences as have been seen throughout Europe, Britain

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<v Speaker 2>and the United States. And that, as the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>of Italy and the leaders of other European nations have

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<v Speaker 2>pointed out, is the compatibility problem we have already seen

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<v Speaker 2>here in Australia, under the guise of protesting in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of Palestinian rites, the disgusting genie of anti Semitism let

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<v Speaker 2>out of the bottle in this country, frequently fuel that

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<v Speaker 2>would appear by Muslims or Muslim sympathizers disgracefully. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>the Albanezi government is bringing in three thousand Garzans, many

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<v Speaker 2>if not most, of whom, will, on the available evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>harbor to whatever degree a level of antipathy towards Jews,

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<v Speaker 2>including Australian Jews. We are bringing twenty six thousand Afghans

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<v Speaker 2>are Australian Jews not allowed to express alarm at these

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<v Speaker 2>developments or is that islamophobia?

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister?

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<v Speaker 2>It is clear from Europe and the United Kingdom that

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<v Speaker 2>large influxes are predominantly Muslim migrants can put strains on

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<v Speaker 2>social cohesion. And how do Labor and other left disc

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<v Speaker 2>governments cope with this breakdown in social cohesion?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they slow down the rate of immigration? Perhaps?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they put in stricter assimilation programs to ensure integration?

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<v Speaker 17>Nope, We've seen a devastating rise in Islamophobia, leaving people

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<v Speaker 17>feeling fearful and unsafe in their own country. As leader

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<v Speaker 17>of the Labor Party, I am indebted to the contributions

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<v Speaker 17>of Muslim members, activists and politicians who make our party

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<v Speaker 17>what it is today. I'd like to thank Muslim organizations

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<v Speaker 17>and Mosques who work tirelessly to raise awareness and shine

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<v Speaker 17>a light on the scale of Islamophobia.

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<v Speaker 1>Islamophobia.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week I played in the footage of the first

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<v Speaker 2>ever Islamic prayers inside Windsor Castle and.

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<v Speaker 1>For many years Prince now King Charles.

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<v Speaker 2>Has been lauded within the Muslim community worldwide as the

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<v Speaker 2>most pro Islam monarch in British history. He is for example,

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<v Speaker 2>a patron of the Oxford Center for Islamic Studies. In

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<v Speaker 2>his youth, Charles apparently studied Arabic in order to better

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<v Speaker 2>understand the Qoran, and there were rumors several years ago

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<v Speaker 2>made by a Turkish Muslim dismissed I might stress by

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<v Speaker 2>the Palace as nonsense that Charles had converted to Islam

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<v Speaker 2>during a visit to Turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, Palace said, it's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>Regardless, Charles made great play of ditching his ancient title

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<v Speaker 2>of defender of the Faith meaning Christianity, to defender of

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<v Speaker 2>faith's plural, which of course includes Islam, no matter the

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<v Speaker 2>theological contortions or contradictions that that may entail. He was

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately crowned under the original title, whilst also committing to

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<v Speaker 2>allow all faiths to live freely under his reign.

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<v Speaker 18>Not my.

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<v Speaker 2>Way yet Interestingly, opposition to Charles has been growing, and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly recent events surrounding Ramadam have seen those crowds demonstrating

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<v Speaker 2>not my king, not my king, against King Charles, but

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<v Speaker 2>our silly memes online mocking Charles as being a secret

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<v Speaker 2>Muslim Islamophobia do tell us play minister, which brings us

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<v Speaker 2>back to Australia. At every single opportunity these last eighteen months,

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<v Speaker 2>members of the Labor Government have sought to always find

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<v Speaker 2>the moral equivalence between anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 1>And Islamophobia.

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<v Speaker 13>I find offensive, I find it had its origins in

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<v Speaker 13>anti Semitism, and I condemn it unequivocally, just as I

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<v Speaker 13>condemn forms of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen.

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<v Speaker 13>Islamophobic comments and behaviour as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We have seen Australian anti Semitism in spades, synagogues and

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<v Speaker 2>childcare centers, torched cars and homes, graffited, huge marches on

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<v Speaker 2>the steps of the opera house, with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Screaming wears or gas or air or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jews, even kids being taught to chance anti Semitic slogans.

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<v Speaker 2>We know what anti semitism looks like. It has been

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<v Speaker 2>defined by the actions.

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<v Speaker 1>Of due haters across the nation.

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<v Speaker 2>But Islamophobia, which by the way, semantically simply means fear

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<v Speaker 2>of Islam, much like arachnophobia means fear of spiders or

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<v Speaker 2>claustrophobia means fear of enclosed spaces. Is it wrong to

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<v Speaker 2>fear the political or cultural extremes of Islam? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>wrong to fear the lack of compatibility between certain communities

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<v Speaker 2>and the breakdown in social cohesion that may follow large

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<v Speaker 2>scale Muslim immigration, decried by some political and religious leaders overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps mister Albanezi might take the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time to more clearly define what it is he means

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<v Speaker 2>by Islamophobia.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, lot's happening in Syria.

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<v Speaker 2>Former British Commander Richard Kemp joins us now from Tel Aviv, Israel. Richard,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always very kind of you to stay up so late,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's some ungodly.

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<v Speaker 1>Hour there in the morning, in two or three in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning in Tel Aviv.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're always great to come on outside as we

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<v Speaker 2>certainly do appreciate it. More importantly, our viewers appreciate your insights.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on in Syria? How bad is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a genocide of Christians and Allowhites taking place

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<v Speaker 2>that we keep hearing about.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's happening on the ground there, Colonel Well, it's.

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<v Speaker 8>Always a pleasure to join your rowin no matter what ungodly.

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<v Speaker 14>I think.

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<v Speaker 19>The situation in Syria is extremely serious, yet it is extreme,

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<v Speaker 19>It was extremely predictable. While have now a new leadership

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<v Speaker 19>in Syria so cool, which is led by a chap

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<v Speaker 19>called Jilani who was and maybe still is a senior

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<v Speaker 19>al Qaeda leader. He wears a suit and tie, and

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<v Speaker 19>it's been lord of by many European and probably for

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<v Speaker 19>all I know, Australian leaders as.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, for being you know, the new light in Syria.

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<v Speaker 19>I think, you know, as you could predict, he has

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<v Speaker 19>of course turned on those people, turned against rather those

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<v Speaker 19>people that he sees as a threat to his regime,

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<v Speaker 19>and those predominantly are the alle Whites and the Christians

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<v Speaker 19>and also the Kurds.

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<v Speaker 8>And we've seen very large numbers of.

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<v Speaker 19>All members of those communities massacred in recent days and

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<v Speaker 19>indeed the last week in some cases subject to before

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<v Speaker 19>they were killed, subject to humiliation like making them crawl

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<v Speaker 19>along the ground, etc. And I've no doubt, I don't

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<v Speaker 19>have any proof of this, but no doubt alongside that

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<v Speaker 19>most of the people have been killed in men and

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<v Speaker 19>I've no doubt it's been accompanied by mats rates as well.

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<v Speaker 19>That would be the standard procedure for the people that

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<v Speaker 19>are carrying out these attacks. So I think we're, you know,

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<v Speaker 19>we're far from seeing you know, the new Syria adhering

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<v Speaker 19>to Western values or anything approaching non violent values I

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<v Speaker 19>think was always a dream and I'm very pleased to

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<v Speaker 19>say that as soon as the Assad regime fell, Prime

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<v Speaker 19>Minister Netnahu in Israel here ordered the destruction of the

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<v Speaker 19>largest large parts of the Syrian armed forces hardware, so

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<v Speaker 19>at least they don't have that to not only oppress

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<v Speaker 19>their own people, but to attack others.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as you said, this is entirely predictable. We've seen

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<v Speaker 3>it elsewhere with this sort of regime change, and the

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<v Speaker 3>naive types in the West who celebrated this really and

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<v Speaker 3>that shocking footage, we have seen the slaughter, the torture

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<v Speaker 3>of innocent Syrian people. Where is the UN in all

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<v Speaker 3>these rich I mean, are they supposed to be there

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<v Speaker 3>to protect the innocent and precisely these sort of situations.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, the UN of course is silent on this and

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<v Speaker 19>is not really interested, which is the opposite perspective to

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<v Speaker 19>the one they took on what's going on and what's

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<v Speaker 19>been going on in Gaza and eleven And of course

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<v Speaker 19>they were the first because people were being killed, mainly

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<v Speaker 19>Hamas terrorists, but also unfortunately some guards and civilians were

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<v Speaker 19>being killed inadvertently by the IDFY. The United nations turned

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<v Speaker 19>on them. They've they've had numerous resolutions against them. And indeed,

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<v Speaker 19>the very man who issued or who who asked for

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<v Speaker 19>a restaurant to be issued against the Prime Minister of

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<v Speaker 19>Israel and the former Defense of Israel, the chief prosecutor

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<v Speaker 19>of the ICC, Kareem Khan. He was pictured very soon

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<v Speaker 19>after Julani got to power in Syria shaking hands with

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<v Speaker 19>the man.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think, basic, James, I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 5>maybe a don't barreled question if I make colonel first

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<v Speaker 5>of all, is there now finally after you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>last twenty twenty five years of Western foreign policy seems

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<v Speaker 5>to have been a record through the Arab Spring and

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<v Speaker 5>so much other, so many other instances of saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>we've replaced somebody bad and winding up with somebody worse.

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<v Speaker 5>Are we going to start to have some sort of

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<v Speaker 5>more realistic look at the way we look at totalitarian

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<v Speaker 5>regimes at this part of the world. And how does

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump's actions with the Hooties relate to all of this.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a very good move that he's done this,

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<v Speaker 5>But in a sense I almost wonder what took him

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<v Speaker 5>so long?

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, I agree with you, I think he's actually had

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<v Speaker 19>quite a lot on his fate s various others. But nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 19>it's long overdue. The attacks that we saw tonight or

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<v Speaker 19>whatever time it is in Australia, but tonight in Middle

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<v Speaker 19>East time attacks quite severe attacks by US air strikes

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<v Speaker 19>including drones, I believe against the Houthis, and my understanding

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<v Speaker 19>is that their target was against the Hoothy leadership.

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<v Speaker 8>They were trying to.

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<v Speaker 19>Take out as many of the leads as they could

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<v Speaker 19>in this particular strike, which I believe is going to

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<v Speaker 19>keep going on.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's long overdue.

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<v Speaker 19>It's not only overdue in the Trump administration, but it's

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<v Speaker 19>been overdue ever since October twenty twenty three, when this

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<v Speaker 19>campaign by the Houthis began against shipping in the Red Sea,

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<v Speaker 19>and of course Biden, as he was in the United States,

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<v Speaker 19>basically went was soft on it because he was trying

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<v Speaker 19>to appease their masters, the Houthis masters in terran trying

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<v Speaker 19>to appease them, and so there's been this very weak

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<v Speaker 19>approach to Totalityranism, particularly including as it affects the West.

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<v Speaker 19>Of course, the Hoothy's attacks on shipping effect the West,

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<v Speaker 19>and equally the Iranian regimes. A nation to develop a

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<v Speaker 19>nuclear weapons capability is also going to affect the West,

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<v Speaker 19>yet the Biden administration has been soft pedaling on that

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<v Speaker 19>as well. I'm pleased to say that President Trump has

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<v Speaker 19>taken a different approach. He's returned to his maximum pressure

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<v Speaker 19>campaign of sanctions against Iran and has also threatened if

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<v Speaker 19>Iran doesn't agree to dismantle its own nuclear arsenal or

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<v Speaker 19>it's development of nuclear weapons. If it doesn't agree to

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<v Speaker 19>do that, then he will unleash Israel onto Iran and

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<v Speaker 19>give Israel all the support it needs to carry out

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<v Speaker 19>military operations against the Iranian nuclear program, which I think

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<v Speaker 19>is something that should happen, and it should happen.

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<v Speaker 8>Sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 19>The time is ripe now for that, and that will

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<v Speaker 19>be a demonstration, I think too, not only to the

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<v Speaker 19>Iranian terrorist regime, but also to dictate as elsewhere in

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<v Speaker 19>the Middle East as to what they can expect if

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<v Speaker 19>they continue to threaten not only Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>But the West and Richard is Finally on Gaza, Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has threatened several times to release hell, rain down

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<v Speaker 2>Hell on Gaza unless all the hostages are finally out.

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<v Speaker 2>We've also had the Gaza Trump Towers Gold Coast Resort plan,

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<v Speaker 2>which is maybe you put your name down for a

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<v Speaker 2>flat share up there on one of the Trump Towers

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<v Speaker 2>overlooking the Mediterranean.

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<v Speaker 1>But where are we with Hamas And at what point

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<v Speaker 1>will you know? Will the threat of unleashing hell take place?

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<v Speaker 2>Will we see the Israelis move in, will we see

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<v Speaker 2>the Americans giving them the green lights move in?

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<v Speaker 8>Well with the massive fee I received for appearing on outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course your top top ten towers, Gars are towers,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the kemps very much.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, But to be serious, I think the the.

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<v Speaker 19>We're receiving mixed messages now about the continuation of the

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<v Speaker 19>sea fire which has been going on for several weeks,

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<v Speaker 19>and that the aim of the ceasefire was not to

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<v Speaker 19>preserve the mass life, of course, because that's something that

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<v Speaker 19>needs to be annihilated, but was to to pause operations

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<v Speaker 19>in order to get back as many hostages as possible.

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<v Speaker 19>And it looks like her mass are quite concerned about

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<v Speaker 19>the threats from Trump to enable Israel and to give

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<v Speaker 19>the green light to Israel, because there now they've now

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<v Speaker 19>said at least that they're going to release some more

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<v Speaker 19>hostages and that shows to my mind, that shows fear

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<v Speaker 19>in their in their heads. But however this works out.

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<v Speaker 8>However, this latest sort of series of negotiats to workout.

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<v Speaker 19>I think, come the time that the Israeli government decides

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<v Speaker 19>they have secured the release of as many hostages as possible,

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<v Speaker 19>and of course there are still some alive and some

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<v Speaker 19>dead in garths until once that time arrives, I believe

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<v Speaker 19>that the Israelis will then resume operations in guards, they

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<v Speaker 19>go back to the fight and finish Mass, which has

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<v Speaker 19>got to happen. And I believe if that does happen,

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<v Speaker 19>then the new US administration will be fully supportive of them,

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<v Speaker 19>as the previous one wasn't. The previous Biden administration tried

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<v Speaker 19>to restrain Israel. I think the Trump administration, once the

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<v Speaker 19>decision has taken to return to the fight, will encourage

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<v Speaker 19>Israel to fight on to the end, because of course,

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<v Speaker 19>there can be no resolution to this situation before really two.

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<v Speaker 8>Main things happen.

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<v Speaker 19>First of all, her mass is destroyed in Gaza, and

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<v Speaker 19>contrary to what people say about you can't destroy in ideology,

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<v Speaker 19>ha mass can be destroyed in Gaza and should be.

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<v Speaker 19>And secondly that the head of the octopus, which includes

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<v Speaker 19>all of the numerous proxies around the region, is chopped off.

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<v Speaker 19>In other words, the regime in Tehran.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Kim, Colonel Richard came. Always great to chat you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll let you go to sleep now and we'll speak

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<v Speaker 2>to you again here on Outsiders. Thanks so much, Richard

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<v Speaker 2>camp Kelonel Richie Kent there in Israel coming up after

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<v Speaker 2>the break, lots more to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>James's Donkey Bote in it.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, you're watching Outsiders with your hosts and my friends

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<v Speaker 5>on my new show Campaign Confidential tonight at six. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>it seems like I can't leave the desk for a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of weeks without everything going crazy, particularly those folk

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<v Speaker 5>who are suffering from not Trump derangement syndrome, but Musk

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<v Speaker 5>derangement syndrome. People who are angry about Elon Musk and

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<v Speaker 5>his Department of Government deficiency. People who, let us be

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<v Speaker 5>very clear here, are so utterly confused about things, politics,

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<v Speaker 5>life that they live in an upside down world where

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<v Speaker 5>an effort to cut government that is again an effort

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<v Speaker 5>to reduce the size and scope of the state, is

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<v Speaker 5>considered fascism. Now, of course, this can lead to some

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<v Speaker 5>very funny, oh I mean a totally tragic events, like

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<v Speaker 5>this guy who managed to set himself on fire while

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<v Speaker 5>trying to throw petrol bombs at Tesla chargers.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, well we're all.

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<v Speaker 5>Involved there, but for sheer idiocy, it is hard to

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<v Speaker 5>go past this guy. In hypertolerant New York, where you

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<v Speaker 5>know it's all about live and let live, baby, anti

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<v Speaker 5>must protesters have not only been occupying Tesla dealerships but

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<v Speaker 5>setting them on fire with such regularity that even the

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<v Speaker 5>cops have told them to knock it off. And then

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<v Speaker 5>there is just ridiculous such as these very posh women

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<v Speaker 5>in the Georgetown neighborhood of Washington, DC who are doing

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<v Speaker 5>a big old dance against Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that'll show them anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>Meanwhile, lefties all over the place are training in their

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<v Speaker 5>tesla's and being very self righteous about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's Democrat Congressman Mark Kelly.

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<v Speaker 20>Every time I get in this car in the last

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<v Speaker 20>sixty days or so, it reminds me of just how

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<v Speaker 20>much damage Elon Musk and Donald Trump is doing to

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<v Speaker 20>our country, talking about slashing Social Security, cutting healthcare benefits

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<v Speaker 20>for poor people, for seniors. It's one bad thing after

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<v Speaker 20>the next. He's firing veterans. I'm a veteran, so have

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<v Speaker 20>a really hard time driving around in this thing. Is

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<v Speaker 20>what matters is is you know, doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's time to get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 20>You know, Elon Musk kind of turned out to be

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<v Speaker 20>an asshole, and I don't want to be driving the

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<v Speaker 20>car built and designed by an asshole.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I can't say further that. Kelly's outburst, though, is

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<v Speaker 5>funny for two reasons, not the least of which is

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<v Speaker 5>that once upon a time, cutting government waste was Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not going to believe this a Democrat priority. Here's

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<v Speaker 5>Barack Obama back in twenty eleven announcing his own doge

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<v Speaker 5>like effort ed. Boy, you are not going to believe

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<v Speaker 5>who played the role of Elon Musk in this little caper.

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<v Speaker 21>That's why, starting today, I've asked the Vice President to

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<v Speaker 21>lead a renewed effort to hunt down misspent tax dollars

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<v Speaker 21>in every agency and department of this government. We're calling

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<v Speaker 21>it the Campaign to Cut Waste. And I knowed Joe's

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<v Speaker 21>the right man to lead it because nobody messages we Joe.

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<v Speaker 22>There's a new standard by which the government is going

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<v Speaker 22>to function. This point on, the American people are entitled

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<v Speaker 22>to transparency. Look, a lot of this depends on new

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<v Speaker 22>sophisticated methods been it also, and also we know depends

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<v Speaker 22>on relentless focus on making this a priority focus that

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<v Speaker 22>can't be delegated.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right. Nobody messes with Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the way, is it just me you're watching

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<v Speaker 5>that and with all those jump cuts and everything, do

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<v Speaker 5>you think that may have already started to have been

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<v Speaker 5>some slippage.

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<v Speaker 6>Up there with mister Biden.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, what's even funnier than that is that Mike Kelly,

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<v Speaker 5>who we just saw and who presumably bought his Tesla

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<v Speaker 5>in the first place to save the planet, traded it

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<v Speaker 5>in apparently for this. Yes, according to Capitol Hill reporters,

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<v Speaker 5>Kelly's new whip is a fossil fuel powered.

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<v Speaker 6>Chevy Tahoe suv so again.

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<v Speaker 5>Great work, Congressman Kelly, and great proof that it's never

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<v Speaker 5>really about saving the planet.

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<v Speaker 6>It's about telling you what you can and can't do.

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<v Speaker 5>In other words, totalitarian control over what is and what

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<v Speaker 5>is not acceptable in terms of your behavior and beliefs

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<v Speaker 5>coming from the left funny, I don't know, sounds a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit late fascism.

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<v Speaker 6>Nah, the left fascist.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining us now is our great friend on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>Ralph Schlhemmer from Europe. Ralph, extraordinary tweet you put out

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<v Speaker 2>on the weekend. We had to get you on to

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<v Speaker 2>tell us all about it. It appears that Germany has

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<v Speaker 2>just put climate neutrality by twenty forty five I met

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<v Speaker 2>zero nonsense into its constitution. Is this and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a so called conservative government, Ralph?

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<v Speaker 1>True?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it is true.

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<v Speaker 23>And I remember we talked on your show about the

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<v Speaker 23>German elections, and I remember quite distinctly that the argument

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<v Speaker 23>was that the conservatives in Germany are not real conservatives.

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<v Speaker 23>And this is precisely what's happening now. Mister Meats made

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<v Speaker 23>two promises, no new debt and the end of green

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<v Speaker 23>madness will be kind of the signif the signature features

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<v Speaker 23>of its new administration. The election was barely a week

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<v Speaker 23>over and he back pedaled on both of those. It's

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<v Speaker 23>very frustrating, but to be quite honest, everybody who had

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<v Speaker 23>two cents two census in their head now that this

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<v Speaker 23>was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you've got the Germans overwhelmingly voting for center right parties.

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<v Speaker 3>This supposed conservative party got the most votes. Uh, the

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<v Speaker 3>a f D were second few percentage points below them,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet they did not form a coalition with the

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<v Speaker 3>a f D. They formed a coalition with with other

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<v Speaker 3>smaller parties. Explain how that processes were worked and what

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<v Speaker 3>a betrayal this is of what the German population actually

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<v Speaker 3>voted for.

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<v Speaker 23>Well, it was not that overwhelming, right, the Conservatives got

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<v Speaker 23>twenty eight percent of the vote, and that was the

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<v Speaker 23>worst result in history. They only had one result that

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<v Speaker 23>was even worse that It was our.

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<v Speaker 11>Four years before that and the AfD.

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<v Speaker 23>It is true they doubled from ten to twenty percent,

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<v Speaker 23>but twenty percent and twenty eight percent is forty eight percent.

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<v Speaker 23>So even if they would have entered into a coalition,

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<v Speaker 23>they would have had a majority in parliament, but it

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<v Speaker 23>would have been a stretch to say that the overwhelming

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<v Speaker 23>majority of the German people supported the center right government.

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<v Speaker 23>They supported slightly more than the alternatives. But the problem

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<v Speaker 23>is the Germans, for historical reasons, they are still shying

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<v Speaker 23>away after when it comes to voting for right wing parties.

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<v Speaker 23>And now they're paying a price because if you don't

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<v Speaker 23>allow the rights to come to power, the left will

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<v Speaker 23>stay in power. So now the Greens or the Social Democrats,

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<v Speaker 23>I mean the Social Democrats will be part of the

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<v Speaker 23>next government. The Greens will not be, but all their

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<v Speaker 23>policy preferences have now entered the coalition negotiations and.

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<v Speaker 11>They will be executed.

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<v Speaker 23>So sure that no longer is all about topic the

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<v Speaker 23>disastrous Green Minister of the Economy, but many of his

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<v Speaker 23>policies will continue with the future government.

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<v Speaker 5>And Ralph, you know I've heard that now under this

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<v Speaker 5>government is supposedly said to right government, the biggest issue migration.

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<v Speaker 5>Well they've swept that under the carpet. Apparently Afghan migrants

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<v Speaker 5>are being brought back in again to Germany.

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<v Speaker 6>And more broadly, what.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the future for democracy in Europe when the will

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<v Speaker 5>of the people when it comes to voting for parties

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<v Speaker 5>like AfD or candidates like the one who was barred

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<v Speaker 5>for money in Romania are simply shut out by the establishment,

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<v Speaker 5>officially or unofficially because well, the people just have got

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<v Speaker 5>it wrong and they're only going to be allowed to

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<v Speaker 5>vote when they get it right.

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<v Speaker 23>Well, the main reason is, and please forgive them my

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<v Speaker 23>franchis that most European conservatives parties idiots, because what they're

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<v Speaker 23>doing is they say we will never anti coalition with

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<v Speaker 23>the quote unquote far right, meaning they enter into negotiations

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<v Speaker 23>with center left parties and saying we have no alternative

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<v Speaker 23>to you. So Friedrich Metz says, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 23>do something with the AfD. So then of course the

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<v Speaker 23>Social Democrats say, well, if we are here on the option,

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<v Speaker 23>we're going to dictate to you what we want.

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<v Speaker 11>And this is exactly what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 23>You see the same thing happening in the Netherlands right

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<v Speaker 23>where they refuse to make head Will as the prime minister.

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<v Speaker 23>You saw the same thing happening in Austria where the

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<v Speaker 23>right wing party became the strongest party after the elections,

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<v Speaker 23>and now you have three smaller parties forming a government.

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<v Speaker 23>And what happened in Romania, I have to admit is

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<v Speaker 23>the most shocking of all the developments. I means you

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<v Speaker 23>have a candidate, when's the first round of the presidential elections,

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<v Speaker 23>the elections get annulled. Now in the polls, he's riding

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<v Speaker 23>high with forty four percent, so he's leading the polls.

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<v Speaker 23>Now he's spanned from running. And the interesting party is

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<v Speaker 23>they come up now with all these reasons and are

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<v Speaker 23>he's a fascists and so on and on, and let's

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<v Speaker 23>sciprolate that all of that is true. Well, then that

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<v Speaker 23>was known in December when the first round of the

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<v Speaker 23>elections took place. So why was it not a problem

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<v Speaker 23>in December, and why is it a problem now? And

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<v Speaker 23>it reminds one after saying by Stalin's head of the

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<v Speaker 23>secret police, who wants it to Stalin? Show me the man,

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<v Speaker 23>I show you the crime. And this is what's happening

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<v Speaker 23>in Romania. And this seems to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 23>of a dry run. If you can't beat them at

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<v Speaker 23>the elections, you drag them into court and you ban

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<v Speaker 23>them from running for office. A very very borious on development.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we've seen the Trump administration cajole the Europeans into

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<v Speaker 3>spending more for their own defense.

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<v Speaker 4>How is that project progressing.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen them say yes, we're going to form a

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<v Speaker 3>coalition and we're going to step in and help Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though Ukraine's now agreed to this piece. Still, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the mood like in Europe with the US really pivoting

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<v Speaker 3>away from what has traditionally been their role.

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<v Speaker 23>Well, in general, I think what the United States are

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<v Speaker 23>doing to Europe is not a bad thing. The idea

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<v Speaker 23>that Europeans have to stand on their own feet is

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<v Speaker 23>something that's good for Europe.

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<v Speaker 11>And that on the long run it's also good for

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<v Speaker 11>the US.

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<v Speaker 23>However the issue is and then we can connect the

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<v Speaker 23>dots from the new realmaments program and green policies. If

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<v Speaker 23>you hollow out to industrial base, all the money in

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<v Speaker 23>the world is not going to afford you any weapons,

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<v Speaker 23>because it's not about coins and bills and euros. It's

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<v Speaker 23>about turning these coins and bills and euros into guns, tanks,

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<v Speaker 23>and cannons.

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<v Speaker 11>But if you no longer have the industry, if you don't.

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<v Speaker 23>Have access to the resources, there's not much you can do.

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<v Speaker 23>So in the worst case, this is turning into inflation

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<v Speaker 23>because now armaments companies have to compete with the private sector,

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<v Speaker 23>or the civilian sector for resources, or that money is

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<v Speaker 23>going to the United States because they have the military

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<v Speaker 23>industrial complex, or as it happened right after the Russian

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<v Speaker 23>invasion of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 11>All of this is just talking. Nothing is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 23>So those are the options about the administration and sympathetic

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<v Speaker 23>to Donald Trump. If you say, guys, you have to

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<v Speaker 23>do more, very good, I think the way in which

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<v Speaker 23>he's saying it. And then I'm actually more thinking about

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<v Speaker 23>the Canadians than the Europeans. I think they could be

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<v Speaker 23>improved because there is a tendency now in Europe less so,

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<v Speaker 23>but particularly in Canada that in a kind of knee

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<v Speaker 23>jerk reaction, people now start to vote for left wing

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<v Speaker 23>parties because they feel that their domestic right wing party

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<v Speaker 23>likes Trump, and if Trump speaks better about their country,

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<v Speaker 23>they kind of automatically then.

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<v Speaker 11>Swivel to the left wing party. This is what you

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<v Speaker 11>see in Canada.

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<v Speaker 23>I mean the Liberal Party of Justin Toudou is doing way, way,

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<v Speaker 23>way too good, only because of the things that Trump

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<v Speaker 23>has been saying about Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Ralph Chouldan always great to CHATCHI head of the

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<v Speaker 2>Center of History there in Europe, and you can follow

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<v Speaker 2>Ralph on Twitter is fantastic. Thanks so much, Ralph always

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<v Speaker 2>great to Chatchy, thanks for staying up again to chatters

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<v Speaker 2>here on Outsiders after the Break, Canber Clown Show, lots

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<v Speaker 2>more here on is in a tick.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll up, roll up, step right this way.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the wackiest show on earth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Canberra Clown Show where Burko the Clown has

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<v Speaker 2>been hogging the spotlight and there's no excuse for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 15>How tries you South Wales Premier Chris means you can

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<v Speaker 15>see you also, I'm.

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<v Speaker 11>Sorry I've said, I've just said last question.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll go back and do this because otherwise you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to do the vision running after me if I

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<v Speaker 1>do have other movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, yes, it seems Burko the Clown is not only

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<v Speaker 2>a master showman, he's a film director as well. So talented,

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<v Speaker 2>but not nearly as talented as that wily old clown

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<v Speaker 2>from the foreshores of Sydney Harbor. Mister Trumbull, who chose

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<v Speaker 2>this pivotal week in world affairs, when the threat of

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<v Speaker 2>tariff's hangs in the air, When the Ukraine Russia War

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<v Speaker 2>is on a knife edge, when Syria is undergoing a

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<v Speaker 2>genocide against Christians. What better time for mister Trumbull to

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<v Speaker 2>try and grab a little of the limelight for his.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite person himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, mister Trumbull, who regular viewers may remember was a

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<v Speaker 2>favorite on this show for many years, chose to pop

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<v Speaker 2>up like an old discarded jack in the box this

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<v Speaker 2>week with an appearance on Bloomberg where he tried to

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<v Speaker 2>land throw a pie in the face of US President

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<v Speaker 2>Donald J.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump.

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<v Speaker 9>So this is a very different United States.

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<v Speaker 24>Trump does not subscribe to the same values that we

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<v Speaker 24>have in the past shared with America. Look, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 24>have a commitment to the international rule of law, that's obvious.

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<v Speaker 24>Doesn't care about treaties or alliances.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, treaties an alliance, as mister Trumbull, you mean

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<v Speaker 2>like the Paris Agreement on climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump ran on the promise of withdrawing America from

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<v Speaker 2>the Paris Agreement and did so as one of his

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<v Speaker 2>first actions, having one a resounding mandate at the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Contrast that to the legacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Of mister Trumbull, who, along with Tony Abbot's treacherous deputy

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<v Speaker 2>Julie Bishop, simply ratified the Paris Agreement with no electoral

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<v Speaker 2>mandate whatsoever, which of course made a mockery of mister

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<v Speaker 2>Trumbull's so called definition of democracy.

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<v Speaker 24>You see, the key to democracy, liberal democracy is that

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<v Speaker 24>it empowers the majority, but it also, through the rule

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<v Speaker 24>of law, constrains the majority. And if you get to

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<v Speaker 24>the point where anybody who can muster a majority, and

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<v Speaker 24>I don't think Trump can do that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 24>but anyone who can muster a majority is given absolute

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<v Speaker 24>power and then can do whatever they like to the minority.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a democracy.

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<v Speaker 6>That is a tyranny.

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<v Speaker 9>Tyranny.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how mister Trumbull would describe someone who constantly

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<v Speaker 2>undermined his own party leader, Tony Abbot, the man who

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<v Speaker 2>had one in a landslide and then at the first opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>stabbed him in the back. In a world exclusive, here

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<v Speaker 2>is the never before seen secret footage of a Liberal

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<v Speaker 2>Party breakfast meeting in which Malcolm and Julie were overheard

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<v Speaker 2>working out whether to get rid of Tony before or

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<v Speaker 2>after the twenty thirty election.

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<v Speaker 11>So we allowed the election to run its course and

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<v Speaker 11>he won't be pooked.

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<v Speaker 4>What other courses there? It's in the hands of God's in.

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<v Speaker 1>The hands of the College of Cardinal's mother. Not quite

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Oop.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, my mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Chesaree and the notche Borgia, not Malcolm and Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy mistake to make, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 2>But back to mister Trumbull, riveting American viewers with his

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<v Speaker 2>astonishing insights.

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<v Speaker 24>Yes, he is the President of the United States, but

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<v Speaker 24>that is really the only thing he's got in common

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<v Speaker 24>with his predecessors.

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<v Speaker 6>Hmmm and argument.

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<v Speaker 2>Arguably, the only thing mister Trumbull had in with any

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<v Speaker 2>of his Liberal Party predecessors was that he had won

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<v Speaker 2>his job in a landslide election.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hang on, turns out he hadn't.

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<v Speaker 25>I was at the Wentworth Sheridan hotel that night where

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<v Speaker 25>the Liberal Party was. They were all waiting for Turnbull

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<v Speaker 25>to appear. Turnbull is at home and he's waiting. He's

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<v Speaker 25>waiting to get the results.

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<v Speaker 10>It was enough to hold power, but with a wafer

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<v Speaker 10>thin majority, just one seat.

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<v Speaker 25>So by this stage it's about midnight and eventually he

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<v Speaker 25>has to go to the hotel. He arrives too late,

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<v Speaker 25>too unhappy. One of the paradoxes is he's won the election,

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<v Speaker 25>but he acts as though he's lost the election, but

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<v Speaker 25>the shock of the very very narrow nature of that

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<v Speaker 25>win left him very very distraught, very upset, and looking

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<v Speaker 25>to blame other people.

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<v Speaker 24>The Labor Party ran some of the most systematic, well

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<v Speaker 24>funded lies ever peddled in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>By Ah Yes, what a magnificent winner, mister Trumbull. Following

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<v Speaker 2>Malcolm's outburst on Bloomberg, Donald Trump put out a succinct

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<v Speaker 2>and fairly accurate rapusts describing Malcolm Turnbull as a weak

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<v Speaker 2>and ineffective leader who led Australia from behind the President

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<v Speaker 2>also described Australia as that wonderful country. Yet here's mister

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<v Speaker 2>Trumbull on the ABC last year.

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<v Speaker 24>Trump is a bully. He encourages people to suck up

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<v Speaker 24>to him. You know, notoriously.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 24>I mean, that was partly my personality and partly circumstance.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it was a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang On, hang on, mister Trumbull didn't suck up to

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what the picture record shows.

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<v Speaker 2>How to look at Malcolm and my wife Lucy grinning

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<v Speaker 2>like two cheshire cats.

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<v Speaker 1>That have swallowed the cream to be sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>There in the Oval Office, while by the looks on

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<v Speaker 2>their faces, it's clear Donald and Milania Trump are wondering

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<v Speaker 2>what on earth the cat dragged in? Oh, and then

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<v Speaker 2>mister Trumbull decided to channel Mark Latham's conger lion gag.

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<v Speaker 24>Are we just going to become, you know, just a

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<v Speaker 24>conger line of sycophants creeping through the White House?

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, even when even the ABC questioned the rather

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<v Speaker 2>inappropriate timing of mister Trumbull's intervention, now I've come struck

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<v Speaker 2>out at then.

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<v Speaker 24>I mean, really, Sally, is this where we've got that

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<v Speaker 24>we've become? You know, is the ABC becomes so pusillanimous

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<v Speaker 24>that you're seriously suggesting that we shouldn't be free to

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<v Speaker 24>speak to the truth in Australia for fear of Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 21>Is that?

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<v Speaker 24>Is that the depths you've sunk to.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's interesting providing commentary about the ABC, but this

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<v Speaker 5>interview you you are from.

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<v Speaker 24>That I got the same line from Sarah ferguson last night.

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<v Speaker 24>I think it really troubled me. I believe in the ABC,

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<v Speaker 24>I believe in freedom of speech, I believe in Australia,

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<v Speaker 24>and I believe in standing up for Australia, and I

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<v Speaker 24>think I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently you don't, Oh dear Didons.

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<v Speaker 2>For old Malcolm, I was reminded of the time my

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<v Speaker 2>former boss Andrew Neil on the BBC triggered Malcolm Turnbill

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<v Speaker 2>by reminding him how his own party had discarded him,

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<v Speaker 2>using the very phrase that Malcolm had used against Kevin Rudd.

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<v Speaker 2>Discarded like another course on a lazy Susan.

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<v Speaker 23>And yet you were still the fourth Australian Prime minister

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<v Speaker 23>in eight years to be discarded, well.

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<v Speaker 24>Discarded like another course on a lazy Susan in the

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<v Speaker 24>Vietnamese restaurant.

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<v Speaker 6>The cruelty of it.

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<v Speaker 24>Well, yeah, I was certainly voted out by my party room,

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<v Speaker 24>fairly narrowly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Malcolm came out with this classic.

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<v Speaker 24>Basically, you could argue that their concern was not that

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<v Speaker 24>I would lose the election, but rather that I would

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<v Speaker 24>win it.

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<v Speaker 6>You're telling me your own party didn't want you to win.

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<v Speaker 26>The next Well, I'm just saying, if you analyze credit

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<v Speaker 26>we ah no, Andrew, that certainly was not credible.

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<v Speaker 2>And indeed that pretty much sums up mister Trumbull, the

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<v Speaker 2>clown and his harbourside ringside circus act not credible. And finally,

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<v Speaker 2>while we're reminiscing about the good old days, this week

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<v Speaker 2>or last week, the women of the Labor Party celebrated

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<v Speaker 2>International Women's Day by releasing this excruciating video of them

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<v Speaker 2>performing Julia Gillard's vile and disgusting misogyny speech, certainly one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most disgraceful spectacles of any clown that ever

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<v Speaker 2>performed under the Burly Griffin big top.

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<v Speaker 27>I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by

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<v Speaker 27>this man. I will not and not be lectured anounce

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<v Speaker 27>and misogyny by this man, not now, not ever.

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<v Speaker 4>The Leader of the Opposition says that people.

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<v Speaker 27>Who hold sex's news and who are melogynousts are not.

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<v Speaker 28>Appropriate for high office. Well, I hope the Leader of

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<v Speaker 28>the Opposition is gone a seacial paper and he is

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<v Speaker 28>writing out his resignation because he wants to know what

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<v Speaker 28>misogyny looks like in him Australia, and he doesn't need

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<v Speaker 28>emotion in the house represented his heeding.

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<v Speaker 2>Hyperable extreme exaggeration as pronounced by Julia Gillard. Hyperbolelet's hear

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<v Speaker 2>it from Bob Geldoff, remember him who yes the boomtown here,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the guy who is behind all of that band

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<v Speaker 2>aid and don't they saving African kids? And gat the

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<v Speaker 2>great eighties hero reader have listened to what he had

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<v Speaker 2>to say on the project.

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<v Speaker 18>This week, the most powerful man on the planet, the

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<v Speaker 18>richest man in the world, have decided to take away

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<v Speaker 18>any of the life support systems of the most fun

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<v Speaker 18>of the poorest children on the planet, quite literally, take

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<v Speaker 18>the last food from their mouth, quite literally, take the

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<v Speaker 18>bandages of the gang raped woman.

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<v Speaker 6>Quite literally.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think this great song.

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<v Speaker 23>Is songwriting.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Mondays? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So pulling funding for things like studying transgender mice. That's

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<v Speaker 3>literally taking food out of the mass of starving children.

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<v Speaker 3>What an absolutely ridiculous, ridiculous man old enough to know

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<v Speaker 3>better about that age. If you're still that stupid at

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<v Speaker 3>that age, then I can't help.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Jay.

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<v Speaker 25>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean look, I don't think there's really anything

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<v Speaker 5>to add except that is the worst type of ball

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<v Speaker 5>we've had here for a while. I mean, did you say,

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<v Speaker 5>like the ridiculous lists of all of the different stupid things.

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<v Speaker 5>But also the other sinister thing that Dosees found also,

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<v Speaker 5>and this cannot be stressed enough, is the way that

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<v Speaker 5>the government, the federal government in the US States has

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<v Speaker 5>been undermining allied governments around the world by funding our

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<v Speaker 5>position papers and things like that, and pushing you know,

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<v Speaker 5>anti church, anti family agendas in traditional countries and causing

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<v Speaker 5>caos where it's a damn good thing doges here, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Funding NGOs to do things that they can't legally do,

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<v Speaker 3>but essentially they're funding It's.

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<v Speaker 5>Like an angio non organization sort of paradox. You're either

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<v Speaker 5>governmental or not.

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<v Speaker 1>End it.

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<v Speaker 11>Just quickly read it.

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<v Speaker 1>Dun Smurray how to win against the Guardian.

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<v Speaker 3>An enormous victory that had to issue a humiliating apology

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<v Speaker 3>and a big fact check from what I'm told. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is after they accused Douglas Murray of supporting violent

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<v Speaker 3>racist attacks when there were anti immigration rallies in the UK,

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<v Speaker 3>and thank thank god he took them on because you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, it's very difficult to launch a defamation case.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be very costly, but this was just so

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<v Speaker 3>egregious that he took it on and film.

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<v Speaker 2>Great blow Douglas Murray. And that's it fro Outsiders this week.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next Sunday morning, but so much during

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<v Speaker 2>the week tonight. Starting tonight, you've got James's Campaign Confidential,

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<v Speaker 2>all about the Australian election which is about to be called.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, don't miss that tonight. You've also got during

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<v Speaker 1>the week the RITA panel he shot at eleven o'clock every.

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<v Speaker 2>Night, and then, can you believe it, Friday nights. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>god it's Friday. You've got the World according to Rwandine

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<v Speaker 2>at seven pm on Friday. Then you've got James Morrow's

1:41:34.720 --> 1:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>US Report at eight and then Rita.

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<v Speaker 1>Panny's Left is losing little. We'll see you next Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>at nine am.