WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 26 December

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<v Speaker 1>Late Wait, welcome the Late Bait.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for your company this evening, I'm Gabriella Power

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<v Speaker 3>and joining us is Joe Hildebrand and Freileach. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 3>John Persudo's time as Victorian Liberal leader could be up

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<v Speaker 3>by tomorrow morning. Shadow Minister for Crime Prevention Brad Batton

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<v Speaker 3>is set to challenge John Persudo for the leadership, and

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<v Speaker 3>Shadow Finance Minister Jess Wilson has also confirmed that she'll

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<v Speaker 3>be throwing her hat in the ring too, although it

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<v Speaker 3>appears that she won't have the numbers to win, and

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<v Speaker 3>more redeeming could be allowed back to the party. Also tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll look at the University of Minnesota's new research project

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<v Speaker 3>that's looking for gender diverse children as young as five

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<v Speaker 3>to play with transgender dolls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's seriously happening.

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<v Speaker 3>But first let's go to the US because President elect

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump has shared his Christmas message and it is

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<v Speaker 3>brilliant trolling the radical left to always try to find

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<v Speaker 3>a way to ruin this special and holy day. Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump posted on Truth Social Merry Christmas to the radical

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<v Speaker 3>left lunatics who are constantly trying to obstruct our court

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<v Speaker 3>system and our elections.

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<v Speaker 2>They know that their.

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<v Speaker 3>Only chance of survival is getting pardons from a man

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<v Speaker 3>who has absolutely no idea what he's doing. And also

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump wanted to take aim at Justin Toddeau. He

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<v Speaker 3>said to Governor Justin Todeau of Canada, whose citizens taxes

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<v Speaker 3>are far too high.

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<v Speaker 2>But if Canada was to become our.

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<v Speaker 3>Fist fifty first date, their taxes would be cut by

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<v Speaker 3>more than sixty percent. Rather, we've also heard from President

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden, if we can remember him, and he shared

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas message and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't even feature in it. Let's take a look at this.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a certain stillness at the center of christ restoring

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<v Speaker 4>shale and night when all the world ruins quiet, all

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<v Speaker 4>the noise, everything is the wisest, all fades away, and

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<v Speaker 4>still listen to the winter's evening, and we looked to

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<v Speaker 4>the sky, a long star shining bread and all the rest,

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<v Speaker 4>guiding us to the birth of a child.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes on for a couple of minutes, but that

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<v Speaker 3>just gives me a headache. But this podcaster Joe Rogan

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<v Speaker 3>has summed it up brilliantly.

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<v Speaker 2>He has shared this video that really.

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<v Speaker 3>Captures the difference between the left and the right tag

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<v Speaker 3>a Look.

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<v Speaker 5>How dare we speak Merry Christmas?

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<v Speaker 6>How dare we well guess what we're saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Christmas again, Joe? How good is that? But it

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<v Speaker 2>shows you what kind of different world we would be living.

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<v Speaker 6>It is amazing. And you see all these things like

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<v Speaker 6>how dare you have merry Christmas when there are people

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<v Speaker 6>suffering in Palestine? It's like, are we not allowed to

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<v Speaker 6>be happy about anything ever because someone somewhere is not happy?

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<v Speaker 6>Because that would eliminate, eradicate all happiness among all people

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<v Speaker 6>for all time. But look, I particularly enjoyed the Joe

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<v Speaker 6>Biden one because it reminded me of that guy you're

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<v Speaker 6>sitting next to at the dinner table at Christmas Day

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<v Speaker 6>and you're not quite sure how you're related. You think

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<v Speaker 6>maybe maybe your great Auntie might have hooked up with

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<v Speaker 6>him at the Bowls club just because he's got nowhere

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<v Speaker 6>else to go, and it just starts telling you what

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<v Speaker 6>Christmas means to him, and you're goings and it It

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<v Speaker 6>just makes no sense. And also that Christmas tree in

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<v Speaker 6>the White House is an abomination. My mother in law

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<v Speaker 6>who gave me this beautiful shirt that I'm wearing, by

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<v Speaker 6>the way, thanks Jill, that has a little smaller one

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<v Speaker 6>of the sort of wooden sort of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>is it deco Is it the deconstructed Christmas tree where

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<v Speaker 6>you know, each sort of little thing slides around and

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<v Speaker 6>blah blah blah. It's like that is not a fir tree.

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<v Speaker 6>That is not a Christmas tree. The whole idea of

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<v Speaker 6>a Christmas tree is that it is an evergreen tree

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<v Speaker 6>that even in the very depths of winter, still produces

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<v Speaker 6>it as the song goes, it's lovely, lustrous branches, and

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<v Speaker 6>you're just reducing it that.

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<v Speaker 2>What that is metal.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just I mean, firstly, it's a safety hazard. There

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<v Speaker 6>are any children in the White House, they'd come out

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<v Speaker 6>with eye patches. They'd be like long John Silver. And secondly,

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<v Speaker 6>it's just not Christmas y. And I do appreciate the

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<v Speaker 6>irony that every year I take an evergreen Christmas tree

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<v Speaker 6>and cut it down so it immediately dies within about

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<v Speaker 6>three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple it's Christmas. Have to get around the key traditions alive.

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<v Speaker 2>But freyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump also slammed the criminals that Joe Biden commuted

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<v Speaker 3>earlier in the week, he said, also to the thirty

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<v Speaker 3>seven most violent criminals who killed and raped people once before,

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<v Speaker 3>who were just given a pardon in incredible will pardon

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<v Speaker 3>by sleepy Joe Biden, he refuses to wish them a

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<v Speaker 3>Merry Christmas. To those lucky souls that will instead say

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<v Speaker 3>go to hell.

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<v Speaker 2>We just had the greatest election.

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<v Speaker 3>In history of our country, and the bright light is

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<v Speaker 3>now shining over the USA, and in twenty six days

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<v Speaker 3>we will.

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<v Speaker 2>Make America a great again. Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that message would be one that many

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<v Speaker 3>of the families of those victims, who you know, would

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<v Speaker 3>really appreciate, seeing as those violent criminals were part and

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<v Speaker 3>just days before Christmas. It is the most quintessentially Trump

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas message anyone could ever possibly produce.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like you can just hear Trump through that tweet,

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<v Speaker 7>which I love. And I think it's good that he's

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<v Speaker 7>acknowledging the incredible commuting of thirty seven death row sentences,

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<v Speaker 7>because that was pretty extraordinary. But I mean, Biden's Christmas

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<v Speaker 7>message was also very strange. I actually have a theory

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<v Speaker 7>that it could even be AI generated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just an AI generated.

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<v Speaker 7>Voice at Biden the guy's on his deathbed. He's not

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<v Speaker 7>getting out of bed this Christmas for anyone, let alone

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<v Speaker 7>the American people. And so one of his staffers has

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<v Speaker 7>just gone into chat GPT put in some inputs of

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<v Speaker 7>his voice, his audio. There'd be plenty on the internet

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<v Speaker 7>to make some sort of cogent voiceover, and then boom,

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<v Speaker 7>that's the Christmas message, because why else is he not

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<v Speaker 7>even appearing, not even a token Jill and Joe, nothing

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<v Speaker 7>at all. So I think it's AI and he could

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<v Speaker 7>actually be dead.

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<v Speaker 6>That is ingenious. That is the best Biden take I've

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<v Speaker 6>heard in all of twenty twenty four. And my only

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<v Speaker 6>question is if they AI generated Biden's Christmas message, why

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<v Speaker 6>didn't they just AI generate his entire presidency?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, so much better off they kept him here instead

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<v Speaker 5>of juiced up Joe, you know, and they didn't get

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<v Speaker 5>the timing of his dosage quite right, going out and

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<v Speaker 5>sort of crumbling.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe send out a hologram, Yes, just cut that, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I do it via zoom. Oh yes, why hello Joe,

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<v Speaker 6>Oh hello America.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that really struggle when he had to finally

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<v Speaker 3>hold press conferences and had to finally never hold press conferences.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he refused to hold.

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<v Speaker 6>Doors stopped on the way to Marine Wine. It's like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 6>there's all these reporters. Do you the presidential helicopter. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just going out to dick some ass for America. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in for fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Four years is.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to be a lot better than the fall that

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<v Speaker 3>we've had. But it is this special time of the

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<v Speaker 3>year where we spend our precious time with our loved

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<v Speaker 3>ones and celebrate with family and friends, except, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>for those on the far left who cannot bring themselves

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<v Speaker 3>to socialize with anyone who may vote differently to them.

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<v Speaker 3>A new poll found that Democrats are almost five times

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<v Speaker 3>as likely as Republicans to say that they'll spend less

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<v Speaker 3>time with certain family members because of their political views.

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<v Speaker 2>Shock horror.

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<v Speaker 3>The survey from p r R I'm also found that

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats are more likely to view the Republican Party as

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<v Speaker 3>a serious threat to the country. Well, I wonder why

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<v Speaker 3>they think that. Well, maybe because of the left wing

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<v Speaker 3>media and you know who's also encouraging that politics should

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<v Speaker 3>really come between relationships, this ivy league, psychiontrist.

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<v Speaker 8>If you are going into a situation where you have

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<v Speaker 8>family members, where you have close friends who you know

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<v Speaker 8>have voted in ways that are against you. It's completely

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<v Speaker 8>fine to not be around those people and to tell

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<v Speaker 8>them why, you know, to say, I have a problem

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<v Speaker 8>with the way that you voted. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 8>be around you this holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to take some space from me.

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<v Speaker 3>Completely fine, completely healthy to just be in an echo

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<v Speaker 3>chamber and essentially shut out anyone who votes differently to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Comedian at Bill Meyer has a weight in on this

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<v Speaker 3>and blasted his own side for behaving this way.

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<v Speaker 9>Way back when a guy who crossed lines politically, who

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<v Speaker 9>the worst thing you could ever do? Be friends with

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<v Speaker 9>a Republican call nine one one. Yeah, this is what

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<v Speaker 9>I hate about the left. Just the idea that you know,

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<v Speaker 9>cut your family on for Thanksgiving, things luned for the wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>He's making sense, Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>How sad is it that we're living in this world

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<v Speaker 3>that people actually believe that you don't need to invest

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<v Speaker 3>in your relationships anymore because they vote a certain way.

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<v Speaker 6>It's incredibly sad. It's incredibly ridiculous. This is a fight

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<v Speaker 6>that Bill Maher has been fighting for it. Frankly, I

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<v Speaker 6>feel like I'm a slightly more handsome and less famous version.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the sort of stuff that I've been shouting from

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<v Speaker 6>the rooftops, so he's been shouting from the rooftops. It is, obviously,

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<v Speaker 6>it is. It is. And again I talk about sort

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<v Speaker 6>of ideology and ideological extremism all the time, but it

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<v Speaker 6>is that thing where you decide that your cause and

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<v Speaker 6>what you believe in your politics are more important than

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<v Speaker 6>human relationships and more important than the feelings. And it

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<v Speaker 6>starts out with the feelings, and then it quickly escalates

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<v Speaker 6>to the lives of other human beings, because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the greater good, the ideal is, the utopia, is more important.

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<v Speaker 6>So again it's not that easy, difficult a step to make.

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<v Speaker 6>From first you cut off people who you disagree with politically,

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<v Speaker 6>who don't agree or rather who don't agree with you politically,

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<v Speaker 6>then you gradually sort of dehumanizement. Pretty soon they're not

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<v Speaker 6>really people, and pretty soon they're just impediments on the

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<v Speaker 6>way to a glorious revolutionary utopia. And pretty soon that

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<v Speaker 6>means you have to get rid of them. And this

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<v Speaker 6>is the formula that has played out on the left

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<v Speaker 6>and the right. But the right is at least kind

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<v Speaker 6>of honest about it, but played out by the left,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, in countless revolutions, But tens of millions of

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<v Speaker 6>people have died from Mao's great leap forward and then

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<v Speaker 6>the Cultural Revolution to the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and

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<v Speaker 6>the civil war that followed. All these people are expendable.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's okay because it's for the glorious revolution. The

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<v Speaker 6>Nazi said, all these people are expendable because they're just

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<v Speaker 6>not really human, and we hate them and we're superior

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<v Speaker 6>to them. So at least there was a degree of

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<v Speaker 6>honesty that. But the other interesting thing about this is

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<v Speaker 6>that it represents the ultimate hypocrisy of the new Left,

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<v Speaker 6>which is that it is no longer about the collective.

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<v Speaker 6>It's no longer about the greater good. Now, if it

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<v Speaker 6>was really about the greater good, what they'd be trying

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<v Speaker 6>to do is find out why people were voting for

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump and how they or their side of politics

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<v Speaker 6>could make a more persuasive argument and therefore relieve the

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<v Speaker 6>world of this tyrannical dictator, Donald Trump, who apparently is

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<v Speaker 6>so harmful in topic.

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<v Speaker 2>They will don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually want to do that, That is the thing they're

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<v Speaker 6>not interested in actually achieving a result that would benefit

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<v Speaker 6>the collective, that would benefit the whole country. All they

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<v Speaker 6>care about is themselves. They have become the ultimate individualists.

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<v Speaker 6>And this psychiatrist from Yale University actually says that openly

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<v Speaker 6>without even knowing that she's saying it, when she says,

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<v Speaker 6>I need to take some space for me. I cannot

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<v Speaker 6>tolerate your existence, cannot tolerate family or friendship because I

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<v Speaker 6>need this for men.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what important.

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<v Speaker 6>This is. Greed is good stuff. This is the ultimate

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<v Speaker 6>what I need is more important than the harmony of

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<v Speaker 6>the family, than the harmony of the community, than Christmas

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<v Speaker 6>Day being at several ens.

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<v Speaker 1>And these people are saying that with a straight face,

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<v Speaker 1>without even realizing what they're saying, and despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>the effing academics from Yale University, like, you cannot make

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff up.

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<v Speaker 6>This is beyond satire. It is just nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, that's happening over in the States, but we're feeling

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<v Speaker 3>it here in Australia too. People on the left just

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<v Speaker 3>shutting out anyone with different views.

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<v Speaker 7>For sure, And I think it's part of this coddal

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<v Speaker 7>culture that we've kind of developed in the West. It's

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<v Speaker 7>like anybody who possibly disagrees with me, that that is

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<v Speaker 7>interpreted as like a personal attack, and now I'm actually

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<v Speaker 7>under threat and my personhood to my very core, is

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<v Speaker 7>being challenged by just your presence and knowing that you

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<v Speaker 7>somehow disagree with me. So to protect myself, my own security,

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<v Speaker 7>I need to take some space for myself, as this

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<v Speaker 7>Yale psychiatrist says, and it's completely ridiculous. It's like someone's

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<v Speaker 7>political views are not going to hurt you, even if

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<v Speaker 7>they disagree with you. We live in a democracy, that's

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<v Speaker 7>the whole point. We can change governments, we can change

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<v Speaker 7>policies through the ballot and without violence.

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<v Speaker 2>Like actually in the.

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<v Speaker 7>West, you can have disagreements with people and be safe

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<v Speaker 7>because we have democracy. But when people retreat into their

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<v Speaker 7>echo chambers and go, oh no, it's too hard, it's

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<v Speaker 7>too much of a personal attack being around people that

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<v Speaker 7>disagree with me. It's, as Joe says, over time that

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<v Speaker 7>actually does creep into growing intolerance, and on the left

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<v Speaker 7>it's resulted in the murder of tens of millions.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, and I will continue to be wiped out

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<v Speaker 6>by Donald Trump forever as long as the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 6>the party that represents that kind of thinking, which again,

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<v Speaker 6>so they become parent. Well they have been, frankly, and

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<v Speaker 6>they've lost the working class that will just keep losing.

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<v Speaker 6>So again, these kinds of idiotic, self indulgent sooks are

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<v Speaker 6>going to produce more Trumps, more jd Vanceys, more Tea

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<v Speaker 6>Party Republican presidents than any prior movement before them. They

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<v Speaker 6>are the greatest gift to the right.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, that psychiatrist was on MSNBC. They love that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of viewpoint as well, and people have seemed to

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<v Speaker 3>have forgotten that Christmas and Thanksgiving it's about giving thanks

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<v Speaker 3>about spending precious, valuable time with the ones people you

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<v Speaker 3>have in your life and I've got to be around

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<v Speaker 3>forever anyway, it's about for them, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>About the self.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, it's about taking care of me in the etaime,

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<v Speaker 6>because I feel like you're not respecting my wishes to

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<v Speaker 6>be the person that I want to be by being

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<v Speaker 6>the person that you are, which to me is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>Good accent, that's it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Bringing it back to Australia now, there's been chaos at

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<v Speaker 3>Sydney Beaches. Thousands of people, including tourists and backpackers, have

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<v Speaker 3>taken part in a Christmas Day party at Bronte Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>And the bad thing about.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just the disrespect rather shown by people going

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<v Speaker 3>to these beautiful clean beaches and the amount of rubbish

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<v Speaker 3>that has been left behind. Some of the images show

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<v Speaker 3>bags of rubbish just everywhere, empty beer bottles, wine bottles left.

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<v Speaker 2>At the usually clean beach park.

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<v Speaker 3>More than two hundred and fifty additional garbage bins were

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<v Speaker 3>placed at Bronze Beach by the council in.

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<v Speaker 2>Anticipation for this event.

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<v Speaker 3>That it appeared to have made no difference, and residents

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<v Speaker 3>are really upset about this. They're voicing their concerns about

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<v Speaker 3>who's paying for this cleanup. They're suggesting that next year

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<v Speaker 3>partygoers should be charged.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty dollars for a cleaning fee.

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<v Speaker 3>Just looking at all those images, it looks like a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's frustrating that there's also an alcohol bound in

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<v Speaker 3>place and that appears to get ignored.

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<v Speaker 2>Frayer for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean there were full on DJ booth set up

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<v Speaker 7>like they're pretty enterprising.

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<v Speaker 2>I must give them credit for that.

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<v Speaker 7>And this is the challenge right Normally I'm pro fun

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like all those people complaining about noise you know,

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<v Speaker 7>they're shutting down live music left right and center. Pubs

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<v Speaker 7>are having to close early. I just think that's the worst.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, come on, let us have fun. Young people

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<v Speaker 7>are dealing with enough at the moment. Mental health is

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<v Speaker 7>deteriorating rapidly. Like, just let people have fun. But when

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<v Speaker 7>fifteen thousand people rock up at a relatively small beach

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<v Speaker 7>and trash the place, I struggle to be pro fun

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<v Speaker 7>in that instance. And I mean, if you had fifteen

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<v Speaker 7>thousand people at any sort of other event, it would

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<v Speaker 7>be a massive festival. This looks like a music festival.

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<v Speaker 7>This was a huge should be a huge production that

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<v Speaker 7>would have a multimillion dollar budget to manage crowds, to

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<v Speaker 7>provide cleaning, poor to loose, like all the services that

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<v Speaker 7>we don't even think about, but that are required when

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<v Speaker 7>you're dealing with this many thousands of people. And like,

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<v Speaker 7>what happens if someone collapses because of heat stroke or

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<v Speaker 7>cardiacgress or something. Can you get an ambulance into a

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<v Speaker 7>crowd of fifteen thousand people at Bronze Beach?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's pretty it's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>I have sympathy for the party goers because I'm like, yay,

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<v Speaker 7>good on them, But at the same time it's like

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<v Speaker 7>that is insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm with you being profun as much as we can,

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<v Speaker 3>especially here in Australia. There are too many rules. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's just so sad seeing Bronti Beach like this. And

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<v Speaker 3>the difference is it is at a beach. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a dangerous environment for tourists, for backpackers who aren't as

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<v Speaker 3>familiar with our beaches, and it puts pressure on the lifeguard.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got a feel this is something that happens every

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<v Speaker 6>year in Sydney and people around the country, but no,

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<v Speaker 6>Brontie Beach is one of the most sort of exclusive ritzy,

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<v Speaker 6>second only probably to bond Die in terms of the

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<v Speaker 6>most exclusive neighborhood on those eastern beaches, which are the

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<v Speaker 6>most expensive real estate in the country. I have some

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<v Speaker 6>pretty strong insights into this. I'm pretty sure I know

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<v Speaker 6>who is responsible for this, just absolute drunken devastation. It's

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<v Speaker 6>the Irish, clearly out people. I know them when I

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<v Speaker 6>see them. I'm an Irish half Irish Catholic myself, and

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<v Speaker 6>that obviously means Irish Catholic is coded for alcoholic. And

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<v Speaker 6>what has happened is Ireland has gone so humorless and

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<v Speaker 6>woke to the point where they've got, you know, pro

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<v Speaker 6>Palestine protesters entering Christmas Catholic masses and then being applauded.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, I think you're in the wrong place, guys.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's obviously become so boring that all the fun

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<v Speaker 6>drunken Irish have come over here in even greater numbers.

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<v Speaker 6>And so you know, the Irish, the drunken Irish backpacker,

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<v Speaker 6>who is basically the national emblem of Bondi has now

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<v Speaker 6>descending on neighboring Bronze Beach. And they're not they're not,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, they're's like, na, how.

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<v Speaker 2>To clean up after themselves?

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<v Speaker 6>They should learn how to. But this is the other

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<v Speaker 6>thing that I reckon might hear. So there's this is

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<v Speaker 6>alcohol ban at Bronte Beach, right, Something tells me it's

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<v Speaker 6>not working. Something tells me what they know that they

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<v Speaker 6>get these huge crowds of thousands of people here over

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<v Speaker 6>the holiday period every summer. Would it not be a

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<v Speaker 6>better idea? Decadedly send, Okay, we know that you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to come and get drunk on Christmas Day. They've got

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<v Speaker 6>no families to go to because they're Irish. And they're

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<v Speaker 6>fighting with all of them, and so they all come

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<v Speaker 6>to the one location. You have a controlled environment, you

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<v Speaker 6>have a regulated environment. You have heaps and heaps and

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<v Speaker 6>heats and heats and heats and heats at heaps of

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<v Speaker 6>recycling bins. They never seem to have enough of those.

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<v Speaker 6>It never seem to be easy enough. And if they've

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<v Speaker 6>put in all these extra bins and there's still that

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<v Speaker 6>much rubbish there, clearly there's not enough. And again I

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<v Speaker 6>do not believe that like some people are just pigs,

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<v Speaker 6>right obviously, and I'm not just talking about the Irish,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm also talking about New Zealanders. But they all of

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<v Speaker 6>those bins I'm pretty sure would have been full and overflowing.

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<v Speaker 6>So clearly people are trying to do the right thing,

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<v Speaker 6>trying to get it in there, and it is just

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<v Speaker 6>not having so even more bins. Acknowledge there's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be an alcohol thing, have ranges going through, getting rid

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<v Speaker 6>of all the paying.

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<v Speaker 3>Triple time, be a ticketed event then so they know

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<v Speaker 3>what they're signing up for that can all be included

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<v Speaker 3>in the ticket, not not.

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<v Speaker 6>For a price, maybe just simply for crowd control numbers.

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't think I don't like the idea of

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<v Speaker 6>charging people to go to the beach under any circumstances.

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<v Speaker 6>That is a very you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, drink. Well, they'll just move to the drink they

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<v Speaker 2>can bring.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll bring their own birds. No, I'm not saying I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not saying sell them birds. We're saying, right, this is

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<v Speaker 6>the this is.

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<v Speaker 1>The this is the the way.

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<v Speaker 2>The alcohol.

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<v Speaker 6>So you can come there. Yeah, perhaps with a special case.

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<v Speaker 6>Acknowledge that this is an event that happens, whether council

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<v Speaker 6>approves it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got drunk people in the ocean, got.

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<v Speaker 6>Trunk pet in the ocean anyway, and you've got people who,

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<v Speaker 6>even when they are stone cold sober, simply cannot swim.

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<v Speaker 6>You've got rock fishermen who cannot swim for the love

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<v Speaker 6>of God and aren't wearing life jackets. That's where some

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<v Speaker 6>of the worst drownings occur. So that happens anyway. Better

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<v Speaker 6>to acknowledge the fact that it just happens, and to say, right,

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<v Speaker 6>we're just going to make sure it's clean. We're going

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<v Speaker 6>to have people on hand to tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't really want to reward this behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>People who turning out to these beaches and just completely

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<v Speaker 3>trashing these feaches.

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<v Speaker 6>It's already anarchy, it's already happening. It's already anarchy. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 6>put the resources in to manage it. So you've got

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<v Speaker 6>rangers that can tell public, keep the music down, if

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<v Speaker 6>they're bothering people, keep a check on anti social behaviors.

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<v Speaker 7>Clean I acknowledge what you're saying, Joe, and I'm sympathetic

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<v Speaker 7>to your argument, but the challenge is right, you're it's

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<v Speaker 7>a public holiday. You're paying people what two point five

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<v Speaker 7>times are hourly rate. You've got policemen there, mounted policemen,

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<v Speaker 7>You've got council ranges, you've got all the people involved

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<v Speaker 7>in the cleanup. This is going to cost money and

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<v Speaker 7>it's the rate payers of Waverley Council the.

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<v Speaker 2>Country.

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<v Speaker 7>But maybe an answer is Waverley Council just owns this

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<v Speaker 7>as an iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>Institution that happens every cess.

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<v Speaker 7>And then they put it on. But you could actually

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<v Speaker 7>have like food trucks selling alcohol, so at least you

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<v Speaker 7>have people with RSAs and then you could enforce the

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<v Speaker 7>band because if they're was a way for people to

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<v Speaker 7>get it, but in a responsible way, you would you

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<v Speaker 7>would be.

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<v Speaker 6>The backpackers aren't going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be I think a lot of people would be trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do you know food, noales and you know, drinks

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<v Speaker 3>at the at beaches, and then they go to the

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<v Speaker 3>backpackers on Christmas Day, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>And they're probably not going to be paying for some

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<v Speaker 7>like gourmet Bronti and I mean, she's Chrissan.

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<v Speaker 6>They just trying to get some French chick drunk enough

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<v Speaker 6>so they can both go to the back of the back.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all I want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to politics now that the are but easy.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be in trouble next year's federal election. He's

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<v Speaker 3>continuing to poll badly. Newspole analysis in The Australian shows

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<v Speaker 3>that Labor has sheared critical support from middle Australia amid

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<v Speaker 3>the cost of living crisis. Not only that Labour's lost

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<v Speaker 3>its edge with female voters both genders and now split

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<v Speaker 3>fifty to fifty on the two major.

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<v Speaker 2>Parties for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>And the analysis shows that Labor is losing electoral territory

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<v Speaker 3>and key demographics as well in New South Wales and Victoria.

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<v Speaker 3>So it indicates that Labor is really going to struggle

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<v Speaker 3>to retain a majority government at the twenty twenty five election,

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<v Speaker 3>and the key issue really is the cost of living,

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<v Speaker 3>especially as families have been struggling with their mortgage repayments

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<v Speaker 3>and interest rate rises. The Greens are also in trouble

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<v Speaker 3>according to this analysis, and having lost territory to Labor

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<v Speaker 3>among younger voters. And this also comes just after Adam

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Bant foolishly boasted about its stance on the on Israel

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 3>and the Middle East conflict. But it's interesting Albo is

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 3>really in trouble here.

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:34.120
<v Speaker 2>It seems.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think he's been too slow to act on

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 3>anti Semitism. He's already bought his retirement home. People are

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 3>voting with their wallets, They're probably not going to be

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 3>voting for him again.

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:46.160
<v Speaker 2>He can't seem to get a lift.

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 3>As we see these news polls at time and time again,

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 3>things aren't turning round for him.

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think this all really started with the Voice.

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 3>He's spent a year on the Voice, five hundred million dollars.

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 2>He's been trying to make his mark and he hasn't

0:23:58.359 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 2>been able to do it exactly.

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 7>We have been in a per capita recession for seven

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 7>quarters seven quarters.

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Families have been going backwards.

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 7>People have been taking home less pay after they pay

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 7>for all the essentials, which have been going up with

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 7>crazy high inflation. So we just have to think about

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 7>where is the average family sitting now.

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Versus two years ago.

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 7>In under one hundred and fifty days, we will have

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<v Speaker 7>an election, and I think Albanez should be extremely worried.

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 7>And the other problem for Labor is that they really

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.880
<v Speaker 7>have nothing else up their sleeve. In fact, I think

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:39.640
<v Speaker 7>they will avoid releasing another budget before the election because

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 7>it will be so disastrous for them, and they have

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 7>zero policy vision or ideas to actually bring down the

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.719
<v Speaker 7>cost of living other than energy subsidies to solve an

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 7>energy crisis that they are exacerbating. So the challenges for

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 7>Labor are immense. If they make if they do a

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 7>coalition with the Greens or any sort of appeasement of

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 7>the Greens, I think we'll just get worse because the

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 7>key areas of kind of policy interest for the Greens

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 7>are energy, ending all colon gas that is just going

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 7>to make the cost of living so much worse for families,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 7>and so I think Labor is really in a very

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 7>difficult position now, and once the momentum.

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Starts to swing. It is very hard to turn that around.

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 2>And we have been seeing.

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 7>Every news poll the coalition has just been eating away

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 7>at their lead and I don't think that's going to change.

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>We have He's just been continuing to poll badly, hasn't he, Joe.

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he has. Look, it's not quite the interesting thing

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 6>about this, and I agree with just about everything. For

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.439
<v Speaker 6>I said, firstly, there is no way they are going

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 6>to form a coalition with the Greens. There is no

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 6>way they are going to sign anything with the Greens.

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 6>In most seats, the Greens probably won't even receive their

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 6>next preference. They will do a deal with the Cannabis

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 6>Party instead, who is much more sort of libertarian and

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 6>fun and they much nicer people. I can promise you

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 6>that the Greens the legalized cannabis party, and that is

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 6>something that happened in the Queensland state election, and we'll

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 6>be replicated at the federal state election. And you know,

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 6>say the word cannabis is obviously it's very easy to

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 6>start giggling and have it. And it's even easy to

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 6>start giggling. But this is part of a serious strategy

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 6>for Labor to distance itself as much as possible from

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.880
<v Speaker 6>the Greens. The PM, I can assure you personally hates them.

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 6>They have ruined his life on Palestine. They found outside

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 6>his electric office. Is they've been you know, they or

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 6>their supporters have been harassing MPs and their elected officers

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 6>supporting the defacement of the Australian War Memorial. I mean

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 6>it's been, you know, it's been absolutely disgraceful and we've

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 6>seen them go backwards. And the fact that the Greens

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 6>are now coming out and begging Labor to basically give

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 6>them a little sugar just shows how desperate they are.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.160
<v Speaker 6>It's a bit like, you know, you don't go out

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 6>with you know, you don't get a date with the

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 6>hottest chick at school by crying and.

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 2>So please, please please, you are please.

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 6>With which is exactly what Adam Bann is doing by

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 6>trying to say come on government with us, that Labor

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 6>is going to put itself as far away from the

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 6>Greens as it possibly can. It's already working according to

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 6>this newspot. And to be honest, the fact that they

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 6>are still fifty to fifty two party preferred, given everything

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 6>that's happened, I reckon that is actually a surprisingly good sign,

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 6>and that that has been holding that. This is an

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 6>analysis over I think the last three months of newspots,

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 6>because you need to add up all the data so

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 6>you can then break it down. You need that to

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 6>build that sample size up to about five thousand something

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 6>like that, And so this is an average of the

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 6>last three months, not necessarily the last month. It is possible,

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 6>and I live in hope that after Christmas, a brand

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 6>new year, people think, well, it can't get any worse.

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 6>Maybe there's a prospect of a rate cut, hopefully for

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 6>the labor before the election, at least almost definitely one

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 6>or two throughout the course of the year. Maybe that

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 6>will make people think, you know what, twenty four getting

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 6>the bin. But maybe things are going to get better.

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 6>Who do I trust more to get me there? Maybe

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 6>we should give Albow another guard.

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 7>Instead of I think, I don't think that's going to happen.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 7>And I think all of the RBA commentary that we're seeing,

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 7>this was confirmed by the IMF a couple days ago,

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 7>is that the cost of living crisis we are experiencing

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 7>now is a result of huge government spending and fiscal expansion.

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 7>So even if we see a rate cut, it's not

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 7>actually dealing with the underlying issue, which is government spending,

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 7>and if labor carries that on all, we're just going

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 7>to have sustainably higher inflation. Government spending is now making

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 7>up twenty seven percent of the entire economy is coming

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 7>from government spending alone. That is one of the highest

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 7>levels on record. It is hard to see where they

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 7>go from here because the deficits and even the interest

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 7>payments on government debt and now one percent of the

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 7>total budget. So how is this sustainable? So if we do,

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 7>I think people will serious, they'll look at their wallets,

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.959
<v Speaker 7>they'll go, Actually, I am poorer than I was two

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 7>and a half years ago. What is Labour's plan to

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 7>get me through this? Basically just spend more money on

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 7>a whole bunch of gimmick policies. Okay, that's not a

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 7>real solution, given they cause this whole problem. So I

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 7>don't think I don't think that's going to happen.

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, a lot of the part and you're right, you're right. Part,

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 6>I think a lot of it has been though state

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 6>government spending and state labor governments.

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 2>The problemly and that is it's all labor.

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 6>Government labor governments. That's right, And you know, I often

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 6>left labor governments who have about as much understanding of

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 6>economic policy as you know, a horse does of quantum physics.

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 6>But they you know, in Queensland, for example, they went

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 6>on a massive spending spread in the lead up to

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 6>election that's now gone and there's a new government in

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 6>that's going to trim that. Victoria as a result of

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 6>all it spending has gone flat stone broke, And again

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 6>you won't see that same excess in South Australia. WA

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 6>is obviously a different country and Labour's doing quite well there.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 6>So everything you say is completely correct. But I'm just

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 6>sort of got my glass half full in front of it.

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Interesting that we've also heard from Adam urging Anthony Albanesi

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 3>to cooperate with the Greens rather if there's no clue

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 3>winner after the election. But it's interesting commentary when the

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Greens are in total themselves.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the Greens are desperate. I think it is, as

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 7>Joe said, this is a cry for help. It's like

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 7>we want attention, we want relevance, we need some sort

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 7>of lifeline year. They know they're going back the campaigns

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 7>we saw against the Greens at a New South Wales

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 7>in the New South Wales Council elections run by Better

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:33.719
<v Speaker 7>Council were very impressive and effective at pulling back some

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 7>of the votes and they often went to labor, which

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 7>I think is fine because I would rather have labor

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 7>than the Greens. And I think the Greens claim Israel

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 7>Palestine as a win. I think they are seriously misguided

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 7>on that. Even if people turn on the TV and see,

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 7>you know, pictures of dying babies, which is horrible.

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>The social division, the.

0:30:55.680 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 7>Anti Semitism, the fire bombings of synagogues that is not

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 7>Australia and anyone that promotes those ideas, and so's that division.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 7>People like ordinary Aussies who we don't hear on ABC

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 7>and in the Guardian, they will get to the ballot

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 7>box and go no freaking way.

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 6>See something even more sinister. And yes, absolutely every really

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 6>anti Israel candidate really suffered at those local government elections,

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 6>including not just the Greens but also some in some

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 6>Southwest Sydney seats there more outspoken so anti Israel Muslim

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 6>candidates did not do well. The other interesting thing though,

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 6>is that the Greens, if they are smart enough to

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 6>know what they're doing, which is a big if, but

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 6>they know that labor. They are in the most powerful

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 6>position if they hurt labor, if they drag labor backwards.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 6>So it is actually in their interest to make labor

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 6>less popular, so that it's minority is so low that

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 6>they cannot avoid Green's MPs to give them confidence and

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 6>supply in the Parliament. And they I think how toxic

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 6>even they must know how toxic their stance on Israel

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 6>has been in the community, and so they hang that

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 6>like they know. They hang that up Max Chamber marsk.

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 6>Strangely enough, I did say we've got to figure this out.

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 6>Then again, they won't say it, but they know that

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 6>they won't say it, but they will have seen the

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 6>same polling numbers that everyone else has, and they know

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 6>that by hanging this and again this will talk about

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 6>these ideologues who actually don't care if the suffering gets worse,

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 6>or if they even harm themselves, that it's much more

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 6>important to be ideologically pure. They want to hang that

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 6>like a millstone around labour. See, labor is just the

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 6>same as us on Israel Palestine. They know that hurts labor,

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 6>and when it hurts labor so much that the only

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 6>way they can possibly function is to crawl on bended

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 6>knee to the Greens and say, okay, we'll do a

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 6>deal which will never ever happen. So they're trying to

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 6>gaslight Labor into a position that it doesn't actually have.

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 6>On Israel, well, let's.

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Look at Victoria. The leadership spill is on.

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Brad Baton has told John Pasudo that he's going to

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 3>challenge him for the leadership at tomorrow's meeting. The Shadow

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Police Minister is the favorite to replace John Persudo, with

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 3>supporters estimating he has sixteen votes locked in. Despite this,

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 3>though Shadow Finance Minister Jess Wilson has confirmed that she'll

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 3>also be throwing her hat in.

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>The ring, but it's unlikely that she will win.

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 3>She's someone who supported John Pursudo all the way and

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 3>voted to expel More Redeeming, but at tomorrow's high stakes

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:27.479
<v Speaker 3>meeting one it comes rather just one week after the

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>party gathered to vote on readmitting More Redeeming to the

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Liberal Party, and as we know, John Pursudo used his

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>casting vote to block her return following her court victory

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 3>over him, and in an effort just to save himself,

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 3>John Pursuito backflipped on Sunday, announcing another party room meeting

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>for January fifteen so Deeming could return, but five MPs,

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 3>including Brad Batton, called for a meeting tomorrow morning to

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 3>bring the vote forward, so there could be as many

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 3>as thirty one members voting tomorrow if two absent MPs

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>are allowed to vote remotely And how desperate does John

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Persudo look just wanting two people who are overseas to

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>be allowed to vote when we know the rules are

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 3>except their exceptional circumstances. If you're not present, you can't vote.

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 3>But tomorrow could really mark a significant turning point for

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 3>the Victorian Liberal Party, which has been desperate for a

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 3>new leader for a long time now, and you certainly

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.479
<v Speaker 3>can't get much worse than what they've had. It would

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 3>be a big boost, of course to the Liberal Party

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 3>if it gets back Moiret Deeming tomorrow, who should have

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 3>never been kicked out in it the first place. But fray,

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 3>the Liberal Party really needs to put this embarrassing chapter

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 3>behind them.

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be interesting what happens tomorrow.

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 7>For sure, for sure, and I've heard some great things

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 7>about Jess Wilson, but my worry is really the Victorian

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 7>Liberals right now need a candidate who.

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Backed Moira Deeming.

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 7>She has been vindicated, she's one in her case against Persudo.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think the interesting factor that not many people

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 7>are considering here is also the Victorian Liberal parties support

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 7>a base they from my understanding, overwhelmingly stand with more

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 7>Redeeming and the Liberal Party in Victoria really since COVID

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 7>has lost a lot of members, a lot of campaigners

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 7>due to the More Redeeming staff, the sense of factional division,

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 7>and so I think they need someone who can come in,

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 7>who can unify the party, who can put that whole

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.359
<v Speaker 7>terrible chapter behind them and bring back a lot of

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 7>the members really that they've lost and be a strong opposition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was amazing. They obviously they made a sort

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 6>of tactical and strategic decision during COVID that they just

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 6>weren't going to arc up against Dan Andrews. That just

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 6>going to let, you know, let Dann be the hero.

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 6>And at the time that same kind of sensible. I mean,

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 6>you had Dan Andrews being worshiped.

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Have I tried to ka, Well, a couple of.

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 6>Them did and and got sort of you know, pulled

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 6>into line. And then I think one of the most

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 6>outspoken members drove his car into something, but it was

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 6>literally a car crash. But again you can see that

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 6>while that might have been a tactically smart thing, it

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 6>was perhaps a strategically stupid thing because now that the

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 6>scales are peeling off people's eyes and think, oh my god,

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 6>we went through what you know, why weren't we told?

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 6>Why wasn't someone out there? And the moderates of the

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 6>Liberal Party would just had their heads down, and so,

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 6>you know, don't don't question, you know, just just let

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 6>Dan just sort of all out and then we'll come

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 6>back at the end. And so I can understand pursuitos,

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 6>but it's like the idea that sorry, so you know

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 6>that casting vote. I just I want to have a

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 6>do over? Can we have Hey guys, can we have

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 6>a do over? That wasn't live? Wasn't it? Can we

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 6>just just do a retake of that? It's just it

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 6>is so embarrassing. I cannot believe it. At every single

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 6>juncture of this he has made the wrong judgment call.

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 6>It has just been foulfoul, foul, foul foul. And again

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 6>it has federal implications because the biggest turnaround for the

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 6>opposition leaders better. Dudn'sfortunes have been in Victoria. I think

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 6>they're trying to pick up maybe about four seats. And

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 6>if the Liberal Party continues as the clown show that

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 6>it has been recently and quite frankly for years, then

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 6>that could undermine the federal effort. I might not. I

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 6>think it's always overstated. Mostly Australian voters know the difference

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 6>and vote different ways. But you know it's just these

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 6>guys just need to just be shuffled and you know,

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 6>in a shoe box above a cupboard somewhere.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, you have to go to a break.

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Coming up on the Late Debate, Beyonce has caused controversy

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 3>with her halftime performance. We'll show you why up to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the Late Debate. Well, we know the

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 3>woke try to ruin Christmas for everyone who celebrates, and

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 3>now they're trying to ruin Christmas carols. Yes, the Church

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 3>of England priests in the UK have been told to

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<v Speaker 3>edit popular carols this Christmas in order to avoid unnecessary offense,

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 3>and those.

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Singled out as particularly concerning.

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Ocmo Emmanuel and Lo He comes Clouds descending. They were

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<v Speaker 3>also advised to use language that won't add further confusion

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 3>or tension or take away anything from the good news

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 3>of the Nativity. Now, this is the last thing we

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<v Speaker 3>need for hymns to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Work for up. I'm sorry. I had to hate to

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 6>interrupt there. They're not hymns, they're thems. I'm sorry.

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>So do you support this then?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, you go I'm just I'll say myself, Oh.

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:31.959
<v Speaker 7>That's shocking, but no, you're one hundred percent spot on there.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 7>To change hymns that have been written over hundreds of

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 7>years now, because all of a sudden we've decided that

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 7>we can't stand for the truth or for the Bible.

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Is genuinely disgraceful.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's no wonder the Church of England's pews are

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.720
<v Speaker 7>getting emptier and emptier because the Church no longer stands

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 7>for the Bible, which is its foundation. And it's interesting,

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 7>like the Gospels in the Bible open with Jesus saying

0:38:56.719 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 7>I am the Way. There are one million ways to

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 7>be wrong, but according to the Bible, there is one

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 7>way to be right, and it is through Jesus, and

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 7>that is what Christmas is all about. Jesus is the way,

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 7>the truth and the life. You cannot edit carols to

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 7>distort the entire premise of the Gospel, which is that

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 7>there maybe there are multiple ways, maybe there are multiple missiles,

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 7>multiple true religions. It's like, no, you can believe that

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 7>if you want, but that is contrary to the entire Gospel,

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 7>the entire church itself. So the fact that the Church

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 7>of England is now spouting this stuff is crazy. My

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 7>other the other thing that angered me about this story

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 7>is they're saying, you can't include any language that would

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 7>inflame tensions around the Israel Hamas war. And it's like, oh, sorry, yeah,

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:52.280
<v Speaker 7>Jesus was Jewish, newsflash. And if you're an anti Semite

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 7>you might find that a bit offensive, but I'm sorry,

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 7>we don't really want you in the church anyway if

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.919
<v Speaker 7>you can't deal with the fact that Jesus was a Jew.

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 7>And in this carol, O Come, O Come Emmanuel, they

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 7>say one of the lines is basically Jesus has come

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:10.439
<v Speaker 7>to ransom captive Israel. And how relevant is that now

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 7>when you've got hostages who've been being held captive for

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 7>over four hundred days. This is a chance when the

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 7>Church should stand with Israel, I should stand against anti Semitism,

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 7>should be proud of the fact that Jesus was a

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 7>Jew and just own it. But instead they are cowering

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 7>and they're destroying the Gospel.

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 6>Here I would decay to the Church of England. This

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 6>is what you get when you break with Rome. Happy

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 6>Now it is obviously just redicause I was at at

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 6>Christmas yesterday. I was talking to my in laws and

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 6>they I said, what's woke? What's woke? You know, I

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 6>was trying to explain it to them, and in the

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 6>course of that, I said, look, it's basically all the

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 6>dumb stuff that people like me when I was at

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:58.439
<v Speaker 6>UNI used to believe and spout, and our friends would

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 6>do it, and you know, the academic mix would do it,

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 6>and they would still stay there long after and we'd

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 6>leave and grow up, and the academics would still spout

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 6>the crazy, dumb stuff, and you know, and the next

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.359
<v Speaker 6>generation would come out, and then they'd leave and grow

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 6>up and learn what the real world was like and

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 6>that will be fine. And then with the advent of

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 6>social media, of course, all these ideas take fire and

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 6>suddenly perfectly normal people who've never had to endure an

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 6>arts degree or a student union election are seeing all

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 6>this nuts stuff that just looks absolutely crazy, and so

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 6>of course they say you're crazy, this is insane, this

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 6>is nuts. And then of course the crazy lefties who

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 6>are all saying and say, well, then you're a fascist.

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 6>And then a way we go and you got your

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 6>first ready made culture. And basically, if you distilled that message,

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 6>it is know your audience. It's fine when you're saying,

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, a bunch of students saying this crap to

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 6>each other on campus and out there little rallies, that's

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 6>fine when it breaks out. Sometimes fine when it breaks out.

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.880
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes it's terrible. But the point is it's usually relatively

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 6>contained in both time and space. It's usually on the campus,

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 6>and it's while you're a student, and then you move on.

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 6>And the different between you know, the nineteen nineties and

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 6>now is that social media has set it ablaze and

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 6>sent it to people who had just never seen this

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 6>crazy stuff before. And again, no your audience. One of

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 6>the objections they have with Low. He comes with clouds

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 6>of the so called quote unquote problematic words that state

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 6>that Jesus is the quote unquote true Messiah. Now, if

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 6>you don't think that Jesus is the true Messiah. You're

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 6>probably not at that Anglican service on Christmas Day, right

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.800
<v Speaker 6>If you are, if you think it's Muhammad, that's fine,

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 6>but you're probably lost. And the best thing instead of

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 6>editing the carols would be for a nice perission is

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 6>they know the mosters is down that way, have a

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 6>lovely day, you know, happy Ramadan whatever. And so these

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 6>people are just so preoc and again it becomes not

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.439
<v Speaker 6>about the audience, not about the greater good, not about

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 6>the people, the service you do with the people, but

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 6>all about me. How I am so pure and thoughtful

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 6>and concerned about other people that I've identified this problem

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 6>that no one else as is insightful and sensitive and

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 6>concern and caring to identify. And then they talk about

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, you know, we don't want anything that could

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 6>further inflame the situation between Israel and Palestine, the situation

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 6>in the Gaza strip. And here I'm not sure. I'm

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 6>not sure if the Archbishop of Canterbury has a television

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 6>or access to the internet. Maybe these and Wi Fi,

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 6>but it's already pretty inflamed. And I'm pretty sure it

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 6>wasn't started by a bunch of godless protties seeing Christmas carols.

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 2>We have to move on to the US.

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 3>The University of Minnesota is looking for gender davers children

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 3>as young as five years old to play with transgender dolls.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 2>For a research project. This is in Fox News today.

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 3>The University of Minnesota is offering to pay parents of

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:02.399
<v Speaker 3>transgender and gender diverse children to have their kids play

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 3>with unconventional dolls complete with genitals. The National Center for

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Gender Spectrum Health at the university said that we're looking

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 3>to hear from transgender and gender diverse children between the

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 3>ages of five and ten years old and their parents

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 3>about and new hands on activity to help talk about

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 3>gender and bodies.

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>University noted that it'll pay.

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Around twenty dollars or between twenty and sixty dollars per

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 3>group for the studies, and families will be asked for

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:34.360
<v Speaker 3>their feedback on this so called new therapeutic tool called

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>my Gender Dolls.

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Pray.

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 3>This is so sick, gender diverse as young as five

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 3>young children. Why is this nonsense getting pushed on to

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 3>parents and young children.

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.360
<v Speaker 7>The idea that a kid could even get a doll

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 7>with all these like different genitals and internal organs and

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:57.399
<v Speaker 7>clothes and then somehow express their innermost feelings about their

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 7>identity through this doll in a really meaningful way. I

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 7>wanted to be a unicorn when I was five, Like,

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 7>come on, someone had taken me into a university been like, so,

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 7>how do you feel these wild animals express your inner identity?

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I would have been seriously confused.

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 7>The job of a parent is to teach a child

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 7>what is and isn't real and help them understand their

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 7>place within an objective and.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Very real reality.

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.800
<v Speaker 7>You cannot treat kids as though they are the parent

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 7>and they have this like internal expressive identity that just

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 7>needs to be let out through gender diverse dolls. It's

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.720
<v Speaker 7>fantasy land and it will damage these children absolutely well.

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Just quickly.

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 3>The Internet has erupted after Beyonce's halftime performance at the

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Christmas Day game between the Houston Texans and the Baltimore Ravens,

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 3>and the singer entered the stadium on a horse and

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 3>performed songs from her most recent album. But the Internet

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 3>is reacting after the pop star made a gun.

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Gesture with her hands.

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 3>There she is and now so Several NFL stars have

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 3>made these gestures after a touchdown, but the league has

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 3>been cracking down on these demonstrations that potentially include gestures

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 3>of violence, and game officials have thrown flags at those

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 3>who have made them. We've heard from the NFL executive

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 3>Troy Vincent in an October meeting saying that there's no

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.320
<v Speaker 3>place in professional football for that. So now the Internet

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 3>is erupting Joe and people are saying, is Beyonce going

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 3>to get fined for this?

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 6>I just want to know she bloods or crips? I

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 6>thinking again, you know, just like the entire conflict between

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 6>Israel and Palestine started because of someone singing the old

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 6>lyrics of a Christmas carol. Gun violence in America is

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 6>a problem because Beyonce did this. Yeah, like, carry on, we.

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Have to go to a break. But stay with us.

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 3>We're going to look at how the Royal family celebrated Christmas.

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the late debate. Well, Prince Louis. Vision

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 3>has emerged of him absolutely beaming as he accepted boxes

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<v Speaker 3>of Cadbury chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a look at that look and the smile says

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<v Speaker 2>it all.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be smiling like that too if I was gifted

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<v Speaker 3>Cadbury chocolates by members of the public. But there he

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<v Speaker 3>is enjoying his moment at Christmas. But on what grounds

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<v Speaker 3>should Christmas be canceled? My opinion, absolutely none. But a

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<v Speaker 3>wife has revealed that she has canceled Christmas after her

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<v Speaker 3>husband bought an expensive gift for his friend instead of her.

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<v Speaker 2>So the twenty eight year old took to social.

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<v Speaker 3>Media to explain that her partner splashed out one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty dollars on the friend, but only twenty dollars

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<v Speaker 3>on her.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, Joe, what do you make of this?

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<v Speaker 3>I think someone needs to remind her it's not all

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<v Speaker 3>about the Christmas present.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, who we need to unpack this bit gab. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 6>it was not just a friend. It was a gaming buddy,

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<v Speaker 6>which I feel like undermines the whole thing. And the

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<v Speaker 6>twenty dollars gift was a candle. I like a candle,

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah I know, but the candle is also the quintessential

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<v Speaker 6>gift that a husband gets his wife when he has

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<v Speaker 6>no idea what she actually likes, what she does. No, no,

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<v Speaker 6>no no no. Women love candles. Men just men have

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<v Speaker 6>no respect for candles, and so by virtue, it's a

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<v Speaker 6>lack of respect for It's also foolish because she can

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<v Speaker 6>use it to set fire to him and shove it

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<v Speaker 6>where the Sundays.

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<v Speaker 3>Is she right though, to cancel Christmas is not hosting?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes? Absolutely, yep, yep, I'm an ally Yep.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I don't think cancel Christmas. But I think make

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<v Speaker 7>him feel really really bad that he's screwed it up,

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<v Speaker 7>and maybe shame him in front of all the other

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<v Speaker 7>guests that are coming over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you can actually cancel Christmas. And then

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<v Speaker 3>he's written about and on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>If you really want to ask, lad.

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<v Speaker 6>Cancel Christmas? Just ruin it?

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<v Speaker 7>But an online gaming friend, and what do you get

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<v Speaker 7>an online game friend? Is this like the AI chatbot

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<v Speaker 7>girlfriend situation? Because then I would really have sympathy for her.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think that his online gaming buddy is Foxy

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<v Speaker 6>bubble Toes.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so that's the red flat and he's bought a

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<v Speaker 7>ninety minute chat session or something so.

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<v Speaker 6>Bad listens to it. Candles, We have.

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<v Speaker 3>To go thank you so much for your company this

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<v Speaker 3>evening on at the late debates, Stay with us coming up.

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