WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 23 January 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:06.280 Welcome, wait to play well. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:07.760 Thanks for joining us on the late debate. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.280 I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand coming 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:11.879 up tonight. 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:13.960 How many genders are there? 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.520 Donald Trump knows, but it seems like none of our 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.480 Australian politicians have any idea. It's all just so complicated. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.960 We'll show you a bit of that a little later. Plus, 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.840 when we look at the papers, Anthony Alberanezi will pay 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.320 people to do construction apprenticeships in a bid to salvage 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.960 his promise to build more homes. And Donald Trump urges 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.440 Vladimir Putin to settle for peace or face economic sanctions. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.600 All of that when we get to what's making news 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.000 in tomorrow's papers. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:42.440 But first, let's. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:46.920 Talk a little tennis competitors at the Australian Open complaining 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:51.960 that postmatch interviews are embarrassing and disrespectful. Is it a 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.200 fair point or are the players just a little sensitive? 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.840 It all started earlier in the week when Channel nine 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:04.360 commentator Tony Owns went live on air chanting abuse at 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.399 ten time winner Novakdokovic. 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:07.640 Here's what happened. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.080 Back to Melbourne Park where you can see the Novak 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.320 Djokovic fans there in full voice. Yeah, the chances are 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:21.880 quite Exturediny Novak, he's overrated, Novaksa has the Novack kick 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:22.200 him in? 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.160 Oh, I'm glad they can't hear me now. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.759 Tony Jones said he was just being funny, which begs 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.800 the question why isn't he doing stand up rather than 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:32.880 sports commentary? 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.560 But since then things have gotten worse. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:39.800 Last night, world number twenty and current tournament semi finalist 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:44.040 Ben Shelton used his press conference to slam the Channel 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:45.080 nine broadcasters. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:46.280 Here's what he had to say. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.680 One thing that I just want to say before we're done. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.680 I've been a little bit shocked this week with how 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.880 players have been treated by the broadcasters. And I don't 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.400 think that the guy who mocked Novak, I don't think 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:03.080 that was just. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:09.800 A single event. I've noticed it. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.320 With different people, not just myself, and noticed it with 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.799 Lerner TN in one of his matches. I think when 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.600 he beat Medvedev, his post match interview I thought it 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:22.520 was kind of embarrassing and disrespectful of that interview. There 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.080 are some comments that have been made to me in 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.480 post match interviews by a couple of different guys whether 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:32.239 it's hey monthis is old enough to be your dad, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.919 maybe he is your dad, or today on the court, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.880 hey Ben, how does it feel that no matter who 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:39.440 you play in your next match, no one's going to 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:40.120 be cheering for you. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.200 I mean, maybe true. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:41.680 But. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.959 I just don't think a comment that's respectful from a 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.400 guy I've never met before in my life. And I 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.640 feel like broadcasters should be helping us grow our sport 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.640 and help these athletes who just won matches on the 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:59.000 biggest stage enjoy one of their biggest moments, and I 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.880 feel like there's just a lot of negativity and I 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:03.639 think that's something that needs to change. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:05.200 Now. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.320 To give you an idea of what he's talking about, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.840 let me show you just a clip of the postgame 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.359 interview he referred to there where he was advised by 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.000 the interviewer that in his next match, no one will 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:17.040 be cheering for you. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:18.880 Through to the center. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.440 You're going to play either Jadixina or Alex dimenor you know, 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.320 like the crowd are going to be on the other 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.520 guy's side for that, aren't they. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.000 I know, I got a few people out in the 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:31.760 crowd who are going to. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.640 Be pouring for me too, and then there was this 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.960 awkward interview with nineteen year old Leerner ten The interview 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.040 was conducted by former Australian champion John Fitzgerald. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.279 It was just cringeworthy. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.160 Have a look, nineteen year olds are not meant to 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:47.680 be that good. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:52.800 I mean, I don't know what to say to that. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.560 I used to live in new Born Beek, so I 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:57.360 know where you live. 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.480 By the way, in the foreset, I just had to 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:02.440 pee so bad. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.560 Well, that makes two of us, lend them. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.360 Joe and Lizzo. I reckon. There's a couple of things here. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:14.360 Firstly, Jim Coreer, who normally conducts these postgame interviews, and 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.880 he's quite brilliant. He knows the game better than anybody else. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.600 He's got wit, and he's got relationship with most of 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.599 the players, so there's a familiarity. But he's in Los 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.040 Angeles defending his home from fires, and so you've got 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.919 people like John Fitzgerald, who as a tennis player was brilliant, 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.040 but as you saw as an interviewer, not much chop. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.479 The interviews as a result have been pretty cringeworthy. But 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.359 these players need to understand they're not just tennis players. 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.720 They're entertainers and people don't want to watch robots, they 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:49.080 want people who are humanized. That's the point of these interviews. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.000 And Ben Shelton to complain it's been disrespectful. It's all 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.520 a bit of lighthearted banter, I think. And by the way, 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.760 he's already earned one point one million dollars prize money 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:02.000 regardless of the result in his semi final. To complain 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.479 that some of the questions are a bit cringey is 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:05.640 a little bit rich, isn't it. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:10.320 No, I think this is somewhat of a culture clash. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:15.240 Americans are a lot more polite, very friendly. But at 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:20.120 the same time, watching those three instances by three different guys, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.000 obviously on the payroll at Channel nine, all of them. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.599 Were very poorly done. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:31.480 But in my Australian estimation, particularly that one with Lerna 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.880 Tia and he's only nineteen years old, this is a 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.360 massive deal for him. And you've got some old Coja 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:39.479 has been in your face. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:40.880 It was three a m. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.920 He had just sweated through five sets. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.840 You want to congratulations, You want to my goodness, you're 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.000 only nineteen. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:51.480 Imagine what you're. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.600 Going to be like in five years, mate, Not some 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:54.600 dude being like. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.719 You're not supposed to be this good. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.000 It is interpreted clearly by the people the receiving end 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.839 as a put down and watching it. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.400 I think they have a point. I don't know how old. 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:12.359 Ben Shelton is the one who's raising it, I imagine 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:17.000 so also very young. This is a huge moment for them. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.680 It's their first Australian Open, it's probably their first time 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.320 to Australia ever. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:24.120 And here we are. 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.560 With not just Novak but O the buttering athletes this 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.840 time leaving a bad taste in their mouth. 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.919 This is not the kind of reputation we want. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.880 I do not think that the that the guys doing 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:40.360 Jim Courier's job, come back, Jim Courier are holding the 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:44.960 torch very well for Australia on the international stage at all. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.800 Yeah, look, I think that's true. But again I think 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.880 there is a difference. The difference between whether a joke 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.679 is offensive or not is often the difference between whether 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.120 or not someone laughs. So you can say no one 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.640 was laughing, that's the whole. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.520 Ben Shelton laughed during that interview. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:08.080 It was pretty awkward point that, the point being if 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.960 if you you know, support sort of free spead people 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.120 being able to have a bit of flexibility and a 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.120 bit of kind of freedom in the way they conduct 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.200 things and not just be like robots, as you say. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.760 And frankly, all this controversy has actually been great for 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.200 the game because everyone was watching that Jokovic match, Everyone's 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:29.200 watching Shelton, Everyone's watching. But again, what you think is 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.920 actually offensive is disrespectful, is actually the fact that it 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.240 just wasn't funny. The joke just didn't last. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.120 When he said to that kid, he said, nineteen year 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:38.920 olds aren't meant to be that. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.400 That's a compliment. He's actually trying to pay a compliment, 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:43.880 and that's right, and the kid doesn't get it. And 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.080 again you talk about Jim Courrier, what do all three 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.120 of these people have in common. They're Americans and they 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.720 are very very straight. Jim Courier is extremely straight. Americans 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:56.400 famously simply do not get sarcasm. They just goes straight back. 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.440 Also, is this the scene for again, young people? 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.160 You know that they're American. Heck, I know about the 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.120 slight cultural divibe we have. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:06.400 I wouldn't try that. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.320 Literally, I have spent all together nine months in the States. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.600 If you add together all my trips, and one thing 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:17.120 I famously know about Americans unless they're from Texas, Texans, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:21.960 if anyone laughed within the earshot of me being sarcastic, 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.920 every American is looking at you like she's serious, she's crazy, 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:30.640 what's going on? If anyone was laughing without without fail, 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:31.960 it was in Texas. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.840 So no, no, but here you are. They're very young kids. 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:40.160 Is it really that hard just to have an up 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:41.320 vibe about it? 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.320 All? I have never and I've watched a lot of tennis. 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:48.520 I haven't seen interviewers putting their foot in it like 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:49.120 this before. 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.520 Couldn't you make the opposite argument, though, if an Australian 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.840 player went to the US and then winged about the 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.640 standard of interviewing because of culture. 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.760 But they They wouldn't though, because Americans would just be like, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.920 you're amazing, that's sorry, good. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.160 For you, Just let me finish. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.360 If you'd gone to another culture and you complain about 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.640 their standard of interviewing because of cultural differences, wouldn't we say, hey, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.760 you in their place, understand them. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:13.320 Isn't that a better no? 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.599 But as I said from the very beginning. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:16.160 We need to adapt to them. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:17.680 Any culture that's. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.640 An element of it I think that's an element of it. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.760 But as I said at the very beginning, as an 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.680 Aussie watching all three instances, yeah, I think. 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:27.200 It was rude. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.439 Sweated through my sets. 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:32.920 You're nineteen years. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.760 Old and getting paid. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.240 Out of this guy's mouth is oh, you're not even 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:39.280 supposed to be good. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.240 That's a comment. It's like, oh my god, what you're 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.640 doing this nineteen? That is what he is doing. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.280 It's the place for backhanded com. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.439 Yes, they're trying to humanize these people. A bit of 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:49.400 bands are a bit of laughing. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:49.800 Okay. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.000 I would love to see you, nineteen year old, you 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.920 having just sweated tooth and now through five sets is 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.160 three am. I would love to see you too turn 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.000 around and just be like, no, I didn't see a 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:02.920 problem with it at all. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:08.079 For one point, I would have had no drama whatsoever. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.480 You never know, I think the problem The point is 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.760 there's a difference between something just being awkward and cringeworthy 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.880 and not very funny. And yes, the interviews will lame 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.120 as obviously. I mean one of them it's literally a 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.520 dad joke about a dad. But there's a difference between 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.080 that and it being offensive or disrespectful or humiliating. And 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.800 that's I think what the marriage's fartedd got. Yeah, that 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:30.560 will lay it if they didn't come here. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.079 To just be made to feel awkward by these old 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:38.040 dudes who are doing a bad job, and objectively bad job. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:42.360 But speaking of doing a bad job, people after Paris 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:48.400 Olympics winners of medals both gold, silver, bronze, a post 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:52.400 you on social media saying why is my medal pealing? 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.880 They've just found out that they're not solid gold, silver 0:10:55.920 --> 0:11:01.400 and bronze. No jokes, but truthfully this is incredible embarrassing. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:02.600 Check this out. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.360 The place that put them together is now recalling them, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.679 which is weird because they've been making French coeens and 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:14.080 medals since the ninth century, so you'd think they'd know 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.679 what they were doing by now, but no, apparently they had. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.640 Some new terrible laws whereby they. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.040 Had to spray them with some sort of chemical which 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.880 is now causing them to peel so soon after the 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:29.680 Olympics as well, this is. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.720 A regulations too, so this is Belgium finally getting its 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:40.640 own back against France. Belgium may because of our one 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.440 and now we are going to regulate your Olympics. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.320 I think the lesson here is they shouldn't have meddled 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:47.040 with the process. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.600 Oh how long did you work? 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.120 I also say, when you're giving medals for break dancing, 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:53.880 the medals. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:58.120 Are already tarnished. Us the other point on this, but clearly. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.839 They kept them long enough to find out that. 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.040 They're although they were using to stop them from corroding 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.200 was apparently toxic. But remember when Olympians would famously they 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.439 bite on it, right, So maybe if they just weren't 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.160 biting them, they could still keep using that chemical and 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.200 they wouldn't have deteriorating medal. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.800 I reckon that was an overhanging from maybe the Moscow Olympics, 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.200 where they're going, Is this actually real? Is this actually. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:22.600 It goes? 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.920 The medals weren't much better than the opening ceremony. Basically, No, 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:26.520 that's right. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.560 And although there wasn't an exception, I have to say, 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.319 and that was amazing the last supper that was meant 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.199 to be backus that had the weird blue fat guy 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:33.839 in credible. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.640 Oh yeah, they usual French ceremony, so so French. 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.360 But I just want to pick up on one of 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:44.559 your last last statements. The cycling team actually didn't have 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.640 any of these problems with their their awards. They just 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.680 put the pedal to the medal. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:51.880 Hilarious. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.280 I used to be I used to be really comforted 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.160 by how much of a failure the paralymp Paris Olympics. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.760 Were because obviously we've got. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.880 The gong in twenty thirty two, so I'm like, well, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:08.360 if we're any better than them, that saves our bacon, right. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.880 But no, LA will have probably done a very flashy 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.640 job in their new LA two point zero smart city 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.719 by then in twenty twenty eight, so we really have 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:19.840 to pick up our sobs. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:21.920 But it's not happening. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:27.600 Check this out former Queensland premiere Anastasia Paliche. You thought 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.440 you'd seen the last of her, but no, she's grace 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.439 people's screens again today because she wants to distance herself 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.959 from the absolute burning dumpster fire that appears to be 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.720 the planning or lack thereof, of the Brisbane Olympics twenty 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:44.280 thirty two. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.760 Have a listen, when I left, we had a plan, 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.200 we were sticking to the plan, and the tenders would 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:55.080 have been out now for the Gabba, and the planning 0:13:55.120 --> 0:14:00.000 and construction would have been well, well, you know, well. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:00.760 Getting into it now. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:06.560 So I'm absolutely shocked at the state of this. Everything's 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.040 getting unpicked. I often describe it as like if you 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.240 if you're nitting a sweater and someone pulls a bit 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.600 of wool, it's all going to come untangled. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.920 And everyone is pulling bits of wool of this sweater. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.640 And you know, if I was at the Ioic at 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.040 the moment, I would be saying, what is going on, Brisbane, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:25.120 I've got out. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.800 A ps done right. She's like, I know this is disastrous. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:30.760 It's shaping up to be terrible. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.280 So I just want everyone to know that I have 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:38.239 nothing to do with the mess that is already unfolding. 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.960 Remember this headline from yesterday where we learned due to 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.760 their trying to put their budget together in Queensland, they 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:50.320 reckon just building the athletes village is going to cost 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:56.320 three point five billion dollars. I mean, my goodness, these 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.360 guys have no idea what they're doing. But Labor has 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.480 already come back to them and said, well, this isn't 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.600 our fault. This isn't our fault. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.800 We sorry, Jenius. Okay, so what they're doing. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.520 They said, we haven't costed this, we haven't planned. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.160 It, we haven't costed it. 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.960 We don't even know whether it's going to be villagers 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.040 plural or just one village. We may have it in 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.720 four locations, so of course we couldn't cost it properly. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.400 This is the whole thing, is what This is exactly 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.240 what she's doing though, and she knows all this, and 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:35.480 she is positioning herself so that when the dumpster fire 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.920 inevitably happens and the Olympics is canceled or called off, 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.080 or people you know, don't get the bus to wherever 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.960 it is they have to get to to actually go 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.520 to the Athletics thing, that she can then say, well, 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.760 I told you this in January of twenty twenty five 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.800 and conveniently shift all the blame from the fact that 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.320 it was her government with her as Premier, that got 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.440 the Olympics in the first place, or started putting all 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.720 these plans in place. And the weird thing is when 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.720 did the wheels actually fall over? Where did all these 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.640 plans fall over? When did the wheels all fall off? 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:11.200 Because it was her successor, Stephen Miles, who took over 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.840 and started changing everything for almost twelve months after she left, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.720 but she didn't say anything during then, and then the 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.440 Queensland election was just in the end of October, first 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.960 beginning of November last year, so pretty much all that's 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:29.000 happened since then is the summer holidays and somehow over 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.600 Christmas the entire kind of twelve year Olympic dream has 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.520 just completely utterly collapse. And this is when she's chosen 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.200 her sort of moment, you know, the eye of the needle, 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.720 for her surgical strike. So it's very very very clever politics. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:46.960 But I'm not quite sure I'm buying it well. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:48.680 I mean to get an idea of just how much 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:53.760 she wants to be absolved from what is inevitably going 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.040 to happen. She was Premier for two and a half 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.800 years after the Olympic Games was announced to go to 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.280 has been Stephen Miles was ten months as premier. David 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.359 chris Fulho has been premier three months. So she is 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.560 really responsible for this, but through both of them, including 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.359 as you said, her success of Stephen Miles under the bus. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.680 But I mean it was going badly when she was 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.200 in charge. She said she had a plan. 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.680 Her plan with the Gabba was that it would be 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.000 knocked down and the AFL and the Queensland Cricket Club 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.440 would have to build their own new facility at the 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.159 show grounds pay for all of that millions of dollars 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.600 while the Gabba was redeveloped. The Athlete's village you mentioned 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.760 three point five billion dollars, We've just learned they allocated 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.040 one hundred and fifty five million. So where was the 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.560 rest of the money coming from. She said the Games 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.920 would be cost neutral. Of course that's not going to happen, 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.280 and her government has already racked up one hundred and 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.200 four billion dollars worth of infrastructure projects over the next 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:51.680 five years, which means there's no workforce, there's no materials. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.320 So the cost of Olympic facilities is just being jacked 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.000 up by the fact they've put the Olympic Games on 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.359 top of an already busy infrastructure schedule. Not only that, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.520 but ask Anastasia Paloge, how many cities did you beat 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.560 to win the right to host the Olympic Games? Liz, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:13.440 you know, none was the one that wanted the Olympic Game. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.000 The back of COVID. Everyone was just like, I kind 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:16.680 of maxed down. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.320 I'll tell you how the number of bid is that 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.120 the Victorian government beat to get the netball After Jena Reinhart. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:24.280 I'll tell you how. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:24.920 Bad this was. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.960 Right, Steven Miles had only been Premier for a few 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.000 months and it's now come to light that his cabinet 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.359 had made inquiries as to what would it cost them 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.560 to ditch the Olympic Games. They advised it would be 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.040 around the vicinity of a billion dollars. Now, remember Dan 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.640 Andrews absolutely flogging for ditching the Commonwealth Games. 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.280 It was like half five hundred million, Yeah, I think 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:48.520 it was. Yeah, maybe even a bit more than that. 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.639 But yes, it would be a billion dollars if they 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:51.440 ditched the Olympics. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.240 So they're stuck with it. It's probably not going to 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.080 be that good and it won't be Anastasia Peloge's fault. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.400 When you think about it, in this current environment where 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:06.040 everyone preaches sustainability, sustainability, I can't believe we still do 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.640 this every four years the city around the world. Can 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:14.040 you imagine the amount of labor, the amount of emissions, 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:19.520 all the construction work that goes into building these behemoth stadiums, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.800 the athletes village, et cetera. 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:22.560 Et cetera, and so on. 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:29.119 It's just so exorbitantly wasteful. I'm surprised that we still 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:30.560 do it here in Australia. 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.680 We already know if Australia. 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:35.399 Were to just be like, hey, can we polish our 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.000 home bush a bit because you guys did it those 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.600 years ago, why don't we just use the same facilities 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.680 they're still there. Sure, we'd still have to fork out 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.960 a bit for extras. Times have changed, but why don't 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:54.800 we take a more sustainable I just think it's absolutely exorbitant. 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:59.159 It's eye wateringly wasteful, and I can't believe anyone. 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:03.520 Is still doing especially when you've got a government. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.840 Like Palichet's government when she kinched this deal that was very, 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:12.879 very devoted to everything green, everything sustainable. 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.439