Speaker 1: From the Sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Happy Sunday wherever you happen to be.
Speaker 2: It has been a wet Sunday for a significant parts
Speaker 2: of the country sincebod was a Sydney absolutely copying it,
Speaker 2: which means we heard World War news coverage of it
Speaker 2: because that's where much of the media lives.
Speaker 1: My focus, however, is on Brisbane, where.
Speaker 2: Many of their birds copped the best part of seventy
Speaker 2: mills in less than twenty four hours. Here is some
Speaker 2: of the stuff that has happened as creeks, lakes and
Speaker 2: even parts of the river start to overflow. Sadly flooding
Speaker 2: nothing near to Queensland, but this is the first day
Speaker 2: of summer, means we should talk about something that flooded.
Speaker 2: The m one had trains suspended, a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: stuff affecting very normal people like you.
Speaker 3: This Sunday's my running path here and yeah, not going
Speaker 3: for a run today.
Speaker 4: I've never seen a go this fast. It just came
Speaker 4: up fast and it was a real shock. Are we
Speaker 4: cleaning up right now so hopefully we'll get open in
Speaker 4: a couple hours. Can't get through fully flooded.
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize it had to come up this far.
Speaker 2: Actually again, do everyone affected joke about the suburbs and
Speaker 2: the media For the non media people, obviously, my thoughts
Speaker 2: are with the you, strength and life to everyone who's
Speaker 2: having to deal with this stuff start of summer. It's
Speaker 2: the country that we live in, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that we don't have to respond to things like this.
Speaker 2: As for the Bureau, this is their insight today.
Speaker 5: There was a handful of locations in the southeast that
Speaker 5: saw their weddest December Day in around twenty years.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: While this is happening for lots of Australians, I want
Speaker 2: you to know the Prime Minister is okay. In fact
Speaker 2: better than okay, because despite the fact that this weekend
Speaker 2: was the lowest number of auction clearances that have happened
Speaker 2: all year, there were plenty of places that were for sale, including,
Speaker 2: of course, as you know, a Prime ministerial investment property.
Speaker 2: But before I get to that, just sixty three zero
Speaker 2: point four percent of homes that were sold under the
Speaker 2: Hammer based on the preliminary data that is held together
Speaker 2: by core Logic. This is down from sixty five point
Speaker 2: three percent of war properties available last week. This is
Speaker 2: the worst result that has happened this year, which matches
Speaker 2: what happened about a month ago in the first week
Speaker 2: of November. But I mentioned the Prime Minister because you
Speaker 2: do need to know that our Prime Minister, who was,
Speaker 2: of course one of us, always focused on people when
Speaker 2: it comes to cost of a living. To drive that
Speaker 2: point home, remember a couple of months ago he bought
Speaker 2: a four point.
Speaker 1: Three million dollar place.
Speaker 2: Oh it might be the place he retires to fingers
Speaker 2: crossed the Australian people send him there earlier than he
Speaker 2: plans to send many other people to the wall. Well,
Speaker 2: of course, to actually pay off the four and a
Speaker 2: bit million dollars, he had to offload some of his
Speaker 2: investment properties, principally one in the Inner West place called
Speaker 2: Dulich Hill, nice little joint. Now he's had some trouble here.
Speaker 2: I mean again, I want people to understand, Okay, a
Speaker 2: little bit of flash flooding here and there, but the
Speaker 2: real victim is none of than the Prime Minister. Apparently
Speaker 2: struggling to flowed the property. He had to drop the
Speaker 2: price on the property. But relax everyone, he's going to
Speaker 2: be able to make the four point three million dollars
Speaker 2: because he has sold this weekend the joint for one
Speaker 2: point seven five million dollars. No wonder he is all
Speaker 2: thumbs up. And don't forget the reason I'm including Penny
Speaker 2: Wong is while many Australians struggle under the cost of
Speaker 2: living issues going into this Christmas, she bought a joint
Speaker 2: in Adelaide for three point four million dollars. Jesus pays
Speaker 2: to be paid by everyone else. Right, These are lifers
Speaker 2: of our political system, the result of which is millions
Speaker 2: of dollars to spend on property that's far better than
Speaker 2: the extreme majority of Australians could ever wish to own,
Speaker 2: even if they won second prize in lotto. Meantime, the
Speaker 2: reality for Australians many this Christmas. This is why this
Speaker 2: stuff's tone deaf. It's why people are frustrated. Remember we
Speaker 2: told you about half of the people using the Channel
Speaker 2: one website saying that they're going to have to pull
Speaker 2: back on some of their spending this Christmas cost a
Speaker 2: living Christmas even heard that term at lunch today being
Speaker 2: used by family members about why adults aren't going to
Speaker 2: be giving presents to each other this year, and a
Speaker 2: shocking three median people, remember, are this close to homelessness.
Speaker 2: Three and a half million. Don't even know where the
Speaker 2: next meal is coming from.
Speaker 1: But it's okay everyone.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister sold not his main house but his
Speaker 2: investment praise for one point seven because he needs to
Speaker 2: pay four point three for the place that one day
Speaker 2: he'll retire to the place that just so happens to
Speaker 2: be accessed by a road that his government is going
Speaker 2: to be upgrading. Which the one thing that is true
Speaker 2: about the first of December. A part of the fact
Speaker 2: that we start to have nice stuff like this around,
Speaker 2: the weather starts to change.
Speaker 1: We are on our way to a federal election.
Speaker 2: Now there could be one as early as the start
Speaker 2: of March. If it's the start of March and it's
Speaker 2: called at the end of January thirty three days. That
Speaker 2: basically is how the maths works. However, Parliament, if it
Speaker 2: comes back at all, I don't think it will. But
Speaker 2: if it does, it'll only be for a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks and then we're off to March or April.
Speaker 1: Very little chance of it getting to May.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to give you an idea about how
Speaker 2: they are going to fight things between now and official
Speaker 2: election time or when Parliament comes back early next year,
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister in Peter Dutton will be dueling election
Speaker 2: style campaigns across the country and the short run to
Speaker 2: the summer break, both leaders said to unveil competing policies
Speaker 2: targeting households in the group of the prolonged cost of
Speaker 2: living crisis helps, of course, if you've just been able
Speaker 2: to offload the one point seventy five million dollar investment
Speaker 2: property to help pay the what four hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: stamp duty four a deposit and stamp duty that he
Speaker 2: may well have to pay on his four point three
Speaker 2: But you know he gets you. The mister Prime Minister's
Speaker 2: off to Western Australia after personally intervening to get rid
Speaker 2: of the Nature positive legislation. Now, one of the problems
Speaker 2: with the Nature Positive legislation was that it was going
Speaker 2: to work very much like the Aboriginal Heritage legislation that
Speaker 2: the West Australian government put in place. Was so bad
Speaker 2: that it helped Western Australia be one of the biggest
Speaker 2: states in the country evading no and the mere whiff
Speaker 2: of it would end up killing off Labour's prospects in
Speaker 2: Western Australia. But surprise, surprise, there's always a little detail
Speaker 2: I'll get to in a moment that they don't want
Speaker 2: you to see. Mister Dutton is going to be targeting
Speaker 2: Labor and the teal seats in Western Australia, Victoria and
Speaker 2: New so Well, South of Australia, Tasmania, Queensland, the Northern Territory,
Speaker 2: meaning he's going everywhere. But I'm pleased to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's going everywhere, right the act the only place is
Speaker 2: not going but he's going to go from Queensland in
Speaker 2: New South Wales to Victoria, to Tasmania, South Australia to
Speaker 2: Western Australia, thank you, Scoop and the Northern Territory to
Speaker 2: visit all of the key seats and the lead up
Speaker 2: to Christmas. But one of the reasons I need you
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Speaker 2: and when we take the Christmas break, because now is
Speaker 2: when they assume you are not paying attention. Because if
Speaker 2: you are not paying attention, then guess what they can do.
Speaker 2: A whole bunch of stuff that they are able to
Speaker 2: fly under people's noses and people won't notice going into
Speaker 2: the next election.
Speaker 1: My job between now.
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Speaker 1: I get it.
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister might be off to Western Australia too, among
Speaker 2: other things. Say oh that nature positive thing dead Bury cremated.
Speaker 2: It's not happening now again. Remember the nature positive legislation
Speaker 2: was being negotiated in chief by the Environment Minister Tanya Plubasik.
Speaker 2: Now she hasn't had a fantastic year, particularly the gold
Speaker 2: mine was being, among other things, banned because of well
Speaker 2: local populations and very specific, very specific cultural reasons. But
Speaker 2: let's get back to the Nature Positive plan for a
Speaker 2: better environment, which is better for business. This was the
Speaker 2: spin from the same people who said, let's change to
Speaker 2: eighty three percent renewables because it'll bring down your power
Speaker 2: prices by two hundred and seventy five. Neither of those happened. Well,
Speaker 2: here's the three strokes are out now. The inside deal
Speaker 2: that most people paid attention to last week was that
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister seemingly sort of leapfrogged over the Minister
Speaker 2: to overrule the Minister for this thing to make its
Speaker 2: way through the Parliament with the help of the Greens.
Speaker 2: Now remember three quarters of the stuff that they end
Speaker 2: up passing is with support of the Greens, with support of.
Speaker 1: The left wing crossbench.
Speaker 2: That I only had a thing about the Nature Positive
Speaker 2: and inside the secret EPA deal. Remember the Environmental Protection Agency,
Speaker 2: the one that will go after you for tree clearing
Speaker 2: like it has in Queensland, or this will go national.
Speaker 2: It was announced literally the day before the last election
Speaker 2: because they didn't want any scrutiny on it. Well, the
Speaker 2: scrutiny on it was about to pass the parliament, however,
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister apparently stepped in and said, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is a step too far. The policy that I
Speaker 2: announced the day before the last election, the policy that
Speaker 2: I told you to go and negotiate. No no, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is terrible and it must be stopped. So what
Speaker 2: you probably saw on the news last week was stuff
Speaker 2: like this from the Greens.
Speaker 5: We were very clear from the beginning of these negotiations
Speaker 5: that if you want laws that protect nature, you've got
Speaker 5: to stop the logging and you've got to stop the pollution.
Speaker 5: It was made very clear to us that the Prime
Speaker 5: Minister was not going to budge on a climate on
Speaker 5: those climate demands, so we put them aside. But even
Speaker 5: that wasn't enough to satisfy the vested interests of Gina
Speaker 5: ran Hart and the mining industry. You don't have to
Speaker 5: take my word for it. They were out crowing that
Speaker 5: they had won the day before anyone else even knew.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 2: Yes, there was mining and very significant employers who paid
Speaker 2: more tax than anyone else in the country who were
Speaker 2: saying this was a good thing because the laws went
Speaker 2: too far. Again, this stuff was announced the day before,
Speaker 2: not at the campaign launch, not weeks before, not months before,
Speaker 2: not years before. In opposition, it was done the day
Speaker 2: before in part to save Terry Butler. Yes, that Terry Butler,
Speaker 2: the very woke labor minister shadow minister who ended up
Speaker 2: getting rolled by a Green in the seat of Griffith,
Speaker 2: which is the old Karen Rudd's seat. And yes, the
Speaker 2: miners were happy that this thing had gone away. Why
Speaker 2: am I talking about this at the start of another week,
Speaker 2: because guess what. The Prime Minister has not killed off
Speaker 2: the legislation. What he has killed off is the fight.
Speaker 2: What he has killed off is people who hated their
Speaker 2: heritage legislation in Western Australia being able to waive this
Speaker 2: legislation in his face when he turns up there at
Speaker 2: the start of the fake election campaign. Now, if you
Speaker 2: think that's the spin that the Guardian has put on it,
Speaker 2: here he is, in his own words today on Taxpayer TV.
Speaker 6: Well, it's our intention to proceed with them, but will
Speaker 6: proceed with them on the basis of our values that
Speaker 6: we put forward. These laws could have been carried at
Speaker 6: any time over recent months, if the Parliament had the
Speaker 6: numbers to vote for.
Speaker 2: Them, Nature positive is not dead. The promise still exists,
Speaker 2: the legislation still exists, and the intent still exists now.
Speaker 2: James Ashby whill join us on the show a little
Speaker 2: bit later. He was one of the first to build
Speaker 2: the cats on how bad this was, and that was
Speaker 2: when it was just their version of the legislation. Matt Canavan,
Speaker 2: who has spoken about it many times in the months
Speaker 2: of this thing's been going through the Parliament, has built
Speaker 2: the cat that this thing is as bad as, if
Speaker 2: not worse than, the heritage legislation in Western Australia. So
Speaker 2: as the Prime Minister tries to curry favor with West
Speaker 2: Australian voters by pretending that he's put two in the
Speaker 2: back of this bad piece of legislation, by his own
Speaker 2: admission on television today.
Speaker 1: It's still alive.
Speaker 2: It's still well and he if you got better numbers
Speaker 2: than the Senate would pass it like that. That is
Speaker 2: the reality of what is happening right now. Why you
Speaker 2: have to be here each and every night so we
Speaker 2: can tell you what they are trying to hide. As
Speaker 2: people start to turn their attention to the gifts sort
Speaker 2: of go under the tree the sport was played at
Speaker 2: this time of the year. Or frankly and understandably, people
Speaker 2: who've got to that time of the year where they're
Speaker 2: kind of over it. We're not to be here each
Speaker 2: and every night. Thank you for joining me over here.
Speaker 2: So Western Australia, why does it matter? Well, it always matters,
Speaker 2: but why does it matter in particular when it comes
Speaker 2: to this election. You would recall that in the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two election, Now Quacus couldn't vote, but I love
Speaker 2: Western Australia. That was us heading off to Rotnest Island
Speaker 2: this year. Ourtown will be back by the way next year.
Speaker 2: So if you'd like to give us an idea of locations,
Speaker 2: we should go to Hey, send me an email right
Speaker 2: outound at skydews dot com that are you outdoud at
Speaker 2: skynews dot com that are year.
Speaker 1: There am at Roddy.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you get a chance to go and see them
Speaker 2: catch the ferry over from Frio.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: As for the actual voting in Western Australia at the
Speaker 2: last federal election, there was a significant change from people
Speaker 2: who had voted Coalition in the past to moving across
Speaker 2: to Labor. You can see they're ten points down. It
Speaker 2: meant that a whole collection of seats moved, sometimes for
Speaker 2: the first time ever from blue to red. Labor the
Speaker 2: key beneficiary a little bit off in minor parties, but
Speaker 2: you can see that basically people walk from one side
Speaker 2: of the street.
Speaker 1: To the other.
Speaker 2: But I want to give you an idea, not just that,
Speaker 2: oh this massive swing of here's the reality. Right, if
Speaker 2: about thirty thousand people change their mind, or even fifteen
Speaker 2: thousand people change their mind, then those margins start to close,
Speaker 2: and seats that they currently have will they become at
Speaker 2: the very best marginal or they may well start flowing
Speaker 2: back the Coalition's way.
Speaker 1: Simply, we will all next.
Speaker 2: Year, regardless of what time the election is be looking
Speaker 2: to Western Australia as its polls close a couple of
Speaker 2: hours or three depending on Australian Daylight savings time or
Speaker 2: Australian Eastern Standard time, we will start to have a
Speaker 2: look at Western Australia because Western Australia, if the Coalition
Speaker 2: is a chance of forming a minority, well they have
Speaker 2: to win seats in Western Australia for Labor to be
Speaker 2: able to hold onto a majority, but most likely not.
Speaker 2: They will have to hold on to everything they currently
Speaker 2: have in Western Australia. Hence why the first port of
Speaker 2: call for the Prime minister post what has just taken
Speaker 2: place in the Parliament, among other things, the nature positive legislation. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's completely been thrown in the just into the top draw. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's where it lives. So I need to show you
Speaker 2: the seats that are in danger.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Remember some of these things like Pierce might seem like jeez,
Speaker 2: that's not a marginal seat. Well of course population wise,
Speaker 2: and if only what between fifteen thirty thousand people change
Speaker 2: their mind, all of these things could switch back from
Speaker 2: red to blue. In terms of the Blue though they
Speaker 2: need to be able to improve on their performance from
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. They can't afford to lose more Canning,
Speaker 2: Duraq Forest or O'Connor. So again, all of these margins
Speaker 2: are relatively close in a state where the population is
Speaker 2: not as populous to say a Victoria or New South Wales,
Speaker 2: and the electorates if they swing, they could swing hard.
Speaker 2: And we know that there's a lot of issues with
Speaker 2: the local government. So that's why Western Australia matters. It
Speaker 2: also is why when the Prime Minister turns up in
Speaker 2: Western Australia and pulls off garbage like he did. Remember
Speaker 2: when he turned up and the reporter for the newspaper was, oh, sir,
Speaker 2: can you sign a pledge here that you're not going
Speaker 2: to change anything about the GST. Remember who the reporter was,
Speaker 2: somebody who was a media advisor to a minister in
Speaker 2: the Albanese government when they were the Albanese government, no
Speaker 2: way back when. But in the Albanese government it was
Speaker 2: essentially a Labor Party stunt done with a staffer who
Speaker 2: was of labor extraction.
Speaker 1: That nature positive and the.
Speaker 2: Ability for just a few people in an entire state
Speaker 2: to go from here to there and the entire picture
Speaker 2: could change.
Speaker 1: Western Australia will be the difference. Now.
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot in American politics about swing states
Speaker 2: and this matters, and this again marginal seats are all
Speaker 2: always what matters. But there are different things happening in
Speaker 2: different states around the country that will either show the
Speaker 2: coalition getting close enough to form its own version of
Speaker 2: minority or Labor falling back far enough to lose its majority.
Speaker 2: All of that will be decided in part by Western Australia.
Speaker 2: Every day between now and when that decision is made,
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Speaker 2: skynews dot com dot Au. Lots of plugs because I
Speaker 2: know a couple of distractions between now and the end
Speaker 2: of the year. So there is one question that is
Speaker 2: the only question that people should be debating between now
Speaker 2: and that next federal election, and it is am I
Speaker 2: better off than when Albo was not the prime minister,
Speaker 2: or since Albo's become the prime minister. I showed you
Speaker 2: last week the Red Bridge Poland. It showed fifty seven
Speaker 2: percent of people who are not better off than they
Speaker 2: were two and a half years ago. That question will
Speaker 2: of course become are you better off than you were
Speaker 2: three years ago? If we get even close to May
Speaker 2: of next year. So the best part of sixty percent,
Speaker 2: about thirty percent who are okay, that's funnily enough about
Speaker 2: the primary vote of the Labor Party.
Speaker 1: They're not sures.
Speaker 2: Now, even if you moved every single person who's not
Speaker 2: sure over to yes, no, we'll still beat them. That's
Speaker 2: the simple mats here. Remember when you see not sure,
Speaker 2: don't know, we're undecided, split it in half. Guess what, No,
Speaker 2: we'll win by an even bigger margin than it currently does.
Speaker 1: But now I want to break down.
Speaker 2: A little more here in terms of locations worse off
Speaker 2: than you were before Albou became the Prime minister. For
Speaker 2: people who live in the cities, they are eighteen percent
Speaker 2: worse off, in the otta suburbs thirty three percent, in
Speaker 2: regional areas thirty one percent, and in rural areas twenty
Speaker 2: nine percent. Meantime, a bit more detail. They came today
Speaker 2: via James Campbell excellent colins in the Sunday Herald Sun,
Speaker 2: the Sunday Telegraph, the Sunday Mail Ties are and lots
Speaker 2: of other places that are around today. Let's have a
Speaker 2: look about people who are in financial stress. Now this way,
Speaker 2: the people who agree are in the blue. The people
Speaker 2: who disagree are in the red. So those that are
Speaker 2: in a great deal of stress there are twenty five
Speaker 2: percent more of those than about the same or better
Speaker 2: off people are in some stress thirty one percent, some
Speaker 2: people that are in not much stress at all. Again,
Speaker 2: about thirty six percent of people there and not much stress.
Speaker 2: So interesting here that those that are in trouble are
Speaker 2: in a world of trouble. Those that are doing okay, well,
Speaker 2: they're going to feel they are doing particularly well. But
Speaker 2: interesting again, when you start to break it down, are
Speaker 2: you in some sort of financial stress? You can see
Speaker 2: they're The numbers are by twenty percent between the ages
Speaker 2: of eighteen to thirty four, twenty one percent between thirty
Speaker 2: five to forty nine, thirty percent between fifty to sixty four,
Speaker 2: and fifty six percent of people who are over the
Speaker 2: age of sixty five saying they are in financial stress
Speaker 2: right now. When it comes to jobs, doesn't matter if
Speaker 2: you're a professional, a blue collar worker, sales worker, somebody
Speaker 2: who's not working with, someone who's retiring. All of them
Speaker 2: are in some sort of financial stress. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if you earn three thousand dollars a week between two
Speaker 2: and three, between one and two, less than one will
Speaker 2: prefer not to say all of those people are in
Speaker 2: financial stress. But apparently the Prime Minister, according to one
Speaker 2: of the write ups and one of the friendly parts of.
Speaker 1: The press, he's got a brand new catchphrase.
Speaker 2: This all comes from apparently one term that he used
Speaker 2: before Parliament finished at the end of the week, and
Speaker 2: apparently you're going to hear a lot of this between
Speaker 2: now and the election.
Speaker 6: We've got your back, is our message to Australian parents.
Speaker 2: Well, you might have our back, Prime Minister, but Australians
Speaker 2: have got size nine steel cap shoes.
Speaker 1: And while you're talking.
Speaker 2: About backs, there might be a little bit lower that
Speaker 2: some of those shoes may well end up be booting
Speaker 2: him in the political sense next to you for being crass.
Speaker 1: But I am a bogan.
Speaker 2: After all being the first of December, I can officially
Speaker 2: declare this to be not just the start of summer,
Speaker 2: but the earliest time I have ever discussed the debate,
Speaker 2: the fight, the minority view about Australia Day. As you
Speaker 2: may will have heard by now, we discussed it, of
Speaker 2: course in the Sunday Showdown a.
Speaker 1: Couple of hours ago.
Speaker 2: There is a very significant company called the Australian Venues Company,
Speaker 2: and they are the second biggest pub owner in the country,
Speaker 2: and they have told us at the very start of summer,
Speaker 2: do not expect any recognition whatsoever at all when it
Speaker 2: comes to Australia Day. Why because they believe, among other things,
Speaker 2: that what makes Australia great in its venues happens all
Speaker 2: the way through the year, and that Australia Day is
Speaker 2: a day that causes sadness for some members of our community.
Speaker 2: So we've decided not to specifically celebrate a day that
Speaker 2: hurts for some of our patrons and our team. Now,
Speaker 2: is it there right to take this position?
Speaker 1: Sure? Is it your right to move your money from
Speaker 1: their venues? Absolutely? Now, before we start getting into a game.
Speaker 2: Where all the right wings calling for a boycott, don't
Speaker 2: know I'm just saying it's up to you. You've got
Speaker 2: lots of ways you can respond to this, and all
Speaker 2: of them should be respectful. Okay, we're not the mob
Speaker 2: that's going around and carrying on like the extreme left does.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can write a letter, you can.
Speaker 2: Try to contact the bosses here, but again, most importantly,
Speaker 2: you can decide where your money goes now because of
Speaker 2: the way that basically, if you've got any problems with
Speaker 2: the negative gearing system where somebody ends up buying five
Speaker 2: or six houses, well, the pub industry is basically that
Speaker 2: on steroids, because once you've got your first couple, you're
Speaker 2: able to borrow against the value of those, and then
Speaker 2: suddenly you're five pub operation becomes well two hundred. We
Speaker 2: know that basically you can't lose money, and in part
Speaker 2: that's because of gaming machines and many of the venues
Speaker 2: which are going to be affected by the ban here,
Speaker 2: and there's lots of them in lots of different states.
Speaker 2: You are going to see that while they will be
Speaker 2: saving people hurt by not marking Australia Day, you'll still
Speaker 2: be able to lose your life savings in a poker
Speaker 2: machine at that venue on January twenty six. Now, again,
Speaker 2: there are supposedly laws about responsible service of alcohol, now
Speaker 2: supposedly about responsible service of gaming, and I would assume
Speaker 2: that every member of their team is well trained and
Speaker 2: absolutely this company follows that law. But again, if we're
Speaker 2: going to start playing games about the greater emotional significance
Speaker 2: of a day, why are they still in a business
Speaker 2: that serves alcohol. Why are they still in a business that,
Speaker 2: of course has, among other things, poker machines. Now this
Speaker 2: one's a little tough for me, and I'm not going
Speaker 2: to sit on the fence about it because one of
Speaker 2: the venues is a place that I have loved my
Speaker 2: entire adult life, and until it's under new management, I
Speaker 2: won't be going back. And that's what you can do
Speaker 2: with your dollars. I'll make sure that I put up
Speaker 2: the list of all of their venues. Again, respectful, do
Speaker 2: not ring them and abuse them, Do not have a
Speaker 2: go at the bar staff. It's not their decisions, it's
Speaker 2: somebody apparently in the marketing department. This decision will only
Speaker 2: be changed if there is a consequence to their business
Speaker 2: of a downturn in trade, if they have the quieter summer. Again,
Speaker 2: I don't want people to be losing their jobs, particularly
Speaker 2: not during a cost of living crisis. But I want
Speaker 2: the management to understand that there are multiple views about
Speaker 2: our national Day, including the majority view, which is that
Speaker 2: the day should be marked. Because if there's anyone who
Speaker 2: believes that moving the date to a different day will
Speaker 2: somehow remove the central issues, that mean companies like the
Speaker 2: organizations who protest against it won't because it's April fourteenth,
Speaker 2: Well then no. The whole point is of this movement
Speaker 2: is to stop a celebration of modern Australia, the modern
Speaker 2: Australia where you can slowly but surely end up building
Speaker 2: so many businesses that you've got a couple of hundred
Speaker 2: pubs with many hundreds more poker machines. But you jump
Speaker 2: up on that high horse, guys, shame. I really like
Speaker 2: the place they've been going for a long term, really
Speaker 2: really nice people, and they know what I like, and
Speaker 2: I like going there and it's a lovely thing every
Speaker 2: until they change. Now I always talk about other people's money,
Speaker 2: perfect example. Of course, it's a government council's all the
Speaker 2: rest of it, just piddling away your tax money up
Speaker 2: against the wall.
Speaker 1: Why because they can Why because they do.
Speaker 2: But there's a version of this that has just seeped
Speaker 2: into our political system everywhere there's an attempt to do
Speaker 2: it at the federal level. It's been passed in Western
Speaker 2: Australia and Queensland, in Victoria and now South Australia, which
Speaker 2: is this move to a system where the politicians stand
Speaker 2: up and so we are no longer accepting donations.
Speaker 1: We are taking big money out of politics. All sort
Speaker 1: of code for the client palmers spending, but the teal
Speaker 1: billionaire completely fine.
Speaker 2: We will set up a scenario where the unions are
Speaker 2: completely independent entities, despite the fact that, of course they're
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the Labor Party.
Speaker 1: Check their constitution.
Speaker 2: Well, the amount of money that the taxpayer in South
Speaker 2: Australia is going to hand two political parties has gone up.
Speaker 2: Why because they're getting rid of money out of politics.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: No, they're not turning around and saying the amount of
Speaker 2: money that politics spends, political parties spend is going to
Speaker 2: go down. It's just you, the taxpayer, are going to
Speaker 2: pay for not just the election campaign, but for everything
Speaker 2: that is promised in an election campaign. It also means
Speaker 2: they have no need to have a relationship with the
Speaker 2: private sector, which brings me back to that idea of
Speaker 2: discussed before, this modern labor party idea that if the
Speaker 2: majority of the population is either dependent on government via welfare,
Speaker 2: dependent on government by working for government, or if you're
Speaker 2: a business that your biggest client is government, then all
Speaker 2: those people in the private sector can just bugger off
Speaker 2: a nice way to stay in power forever because everyone
Speaker 2: has either got the handout while they've got the hand
Speaker 2: into the pocket of the people who don't have their handout.
Speaker 2: The proposed laws will introduce about fifteen to twenty million
Speaker 2: dollars more funding by a taxpayers money that will be
Speaker 2: going to political parties and MPs. The vast majority of
Speaker 2: that is going to go to the Liberal and Labour parties.
Speaker 2: Who's making that point somebody from a less lefty think tank.
Speaker 2: They don't like this, but of course the Greens will
Speaker 2: end up with more taxpayers money. The public funding. So
Speaker 2: public funding supports encumbents over new entrants, and that's a
Speaker 2: big problem because there's an unleveled playing field when it
Speaker 2: comes to trying to contest elections. Yeah, you see, that's
Speaker 2: it too, is that if you have a scenario where
Speaker 2: the party that got more votes of the last election
Speaker 2: ends up with more money than anyone else who's running.
Speaker 1: Guess what happens your ability to raise money.
Speaker 2: If you're somebody who is entering the system as an
Speaker 2: independent all all the way up to being the opposition.
Speaker 2: It's not as much money as the government. It's a
Speaker 2: way of governments trying to permanently brick themselves into power
Speaker 2: with firstly a financial advantage over all of their political competitors,
Speaker 2: a dependent population, a working for government population, or a
Speaker 2: business that doesn't want to upset government because then their contracts,
Speaker 2: of course go up in smoke.
Speaker 1: Nothing to see here, nothing to see here at all.
Speaker 2: But when we are talking about other people's money, there
Speaker 2: is one thing that I would like state government.
Speaker 1: To spend a lot more money on, and it's potholes.
Speaker 2: Now people like to center out are all over the
Speaker 2: shop saying about what their priorities are and extra money
Speaker 2: for this focus. I went in great chapter and verse
Speaker 2: about how terrible the Victorian system is. One where the
Speaker 2: triplo system check your Google machines, kids, is one that
Speaker 2: sometimes can break down, so the disp are passing paces
Speaker 2: of paper around to tell people where to go Australians
Speaker 2: will not believe any government is there to truly fix
Speaker 2: anything until you fix the freaking potholes. If you can't
Speaker 2: put a bit of ashphalt into the ground at the
Speaker 2: end of my street, then how can I trust you're
Speaker 2: going to be able to have a school system that
Speaker 2: will send kids forward not backwards?
Speaker 1: How will you have a police force that will enforce
Speaker 1: you get the point right. It is not just.
Speaker 2: The example, but it is the symptom of the system
Speaker 2: that has broken. Now, it'd be lovely if they state
Speaker 2: government turn around said look, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Our main priority for four years.
Speaker 2: Is we're going to fix up all of the roads,
Speaker 2: particularly regional roads in Victoria. When we were talking to
Speaker 2: people at the Outown show in Bendigo last week, number
Speaker 2: one issue for many of them was the dog tracks
Speaker 2: that are regional roads from swan Hill over to Bendigo
Speaker 2: and terrible that road is one from Melbourne to swan
Speaker 2: Hill because the further you get away from where the
Speaker 2: people are, apparently.
Speaker 1: Your roads should fall away garbage. You pay enough tax.
Speaker 2: To your local government, to your state government, and your
Speaker 2: federal goverment, in fact, more than you've ever paid in
Speaker 2: your life. Yet they can't fix things like the potholes.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I need to where a ribbons
Speaker 2: start a slogan or say we should have.
Speaker 1: A national conversation. But could someone somewhere tell me who's
Speaker 1: dropping the ball?
Speaker 2: And while it's easy to turn around say oh, it's
Speaker 2: a local council because they spend too much money on
Speaker 2: woke stuff at the library.
Speaker 1: Not true.
Speaker 2: Is it the federal government who supposedly were supposed to
Speaker 2: take the fuel taxes along with the state governments and
Speaker 2: put that into taking care of the roads.
Speaker 1: You bet you.
Speaker 2: But as I've shown you before, with a structural deficit
Speaker 2: in the federal and state budgets for the next forty years,
Speaker 2: they take the money that should be going into fixing
Speaker 2: our roads. Instead they put it on their little projects.
Speaker 2: Or and my favorite one, they give multi billion dollar
Speaker 2: corporations your tax dollars so they hold events in your
Speaker 2: city and in your state. Now again, I would love
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift to play every stadium in Australia. But if
Speaker 2: the taxpayers of a certain state have to choose between
Speaker 2: potholes or concerts, it's pretty obvious to me which one
Speaker 2: they should choose. Send your complaints to somebody else, because
Speaker 2: I'm right on this one. Quick shout out to Paul
Speaker 2: Fatty Vhughton, who's entered his television career today. He's been
Speaker 2: associated in and around Channel nine of course for the
Speaker 2: whole time, best but thirty something years. Congratulations to hum
Speaker 2: and a team that won Logi after.
Speaker 1: Logi after Logi after Logi with his role on the
Speaker 1: Footy Show. All the best to him and his family meantime.
Speaker 2: A good decision made by this government, but it's one
Speaker 2: that's been made by previous governments as well, and that
Speaker 2: is to start to talk more about endometriosis.
Speaker 1: Too many women around our tree.
Speaker 2: Our sisters, our mums, our mates, they hurt because of this,
Speaker 2: not just the physical pain, but the difficulties in the
Speaker 2: falling pregnant. And it's good to see that a drug
Speaker 2: that is going to help is now going to be
Speaker 2: listed on the PBS. Whoever made that decision, Yeah, well done,
Speaker 2: a good idea and finally the most Melbourne story that
Speaker 2: I could possibly think of. You know how Melbourne Central
Speaker 2: there's that beautiful old tower. Well somebody didn't like that.
Speaker 2: Somebody decided to put a banner on it, trying to
Speaker 2: flog a beer the world's biggest beer tower, because you
Speaker 2: know beer towers all the rest.
Speaker 1: Oh disgraceful, How dam you.
Speaker 2: They didn't knock it down, They just covered it with
Speaker 2: an ad. That's the most Melbourne story I could think
Speaker 2: of today. While the potholes that you would go through
Speaker 2: getting to Melbourne Central, well they could ruin your car.
Speaker 1: But whatever, protect the chimney.
Speaker 2: Quick break back with more, looking forward to night's discussion
Speaker 2: Bold Predictions for the Weak Ahead and.
Speaker 1: The reality about Nature Positive.
Speaker 2: Thanks for watching us Sunday night, and I'm and heavy
Speaker 2: handed to night, but I repeat here every night because
Speaker 2: you can pay attention and nothing else.
Speaker 1: Will come back one hour every night and I'll.
Speaker 2: Tell you what's really going on. Honestly, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for watching. James Ashby from One Nation joins us. Well,
Speaker 2: she said no fixed address politically, but we know it's
Speaker 2: labor is none of them? The lovely lid of Scott
Speaker 2: Hello and lovely to see you both. So James, we
Speaker 2: talked about Nature Positive. In fact, you were the first
Speaker 2: person to turn me on to what was happening with
Speaker 2: Nature Positive. But because they couldn't do a deal with
Speaker 2: the greens, Oh, it's all been withdrawn, but the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister goes on television and says, no, no, it's still
Speaker 2: ready to go. Tell us what the original government idea is, right,
Speaker 2: the one that if they got a majority in the
Speaker 2: Senate they would still pass.
Speaker 3: Well, Paul, the whole idea of this nature positive bill,
Speaker 3: there's nothing positive about it. I might just say to
Speaker 3: all your viewers out there. They're trying to sell it
Speaker 3: as this, so look, this is an easy path for
Speaker 3: minds to get approved and environmental projects will just slip
Speaker 3: right through.
Speaker 4: Now, it's far from that.
Speaker 3: In fact, they've been very open and honest in there
Speaker 3: what very little information they have revealed to the public.
Speaker 3: They want to lock up thirty percent of the land,
Speaker 3: thirty percent of the oceans. That's put simple to anyone
Speaker 3: at home, and you can't do that without shutting down
Speaker 3: big projects, including mining, including fishing. And who's going to
Speaker 3: pay for that? We all are because our industry is here,
Speaker 3: particularly in the mining and commercial fishing. There what feed us?
Speaker 4: There?
Speaker 3: What feed the economy. They give plenty of jobs right
Speaker 3: across the country. And when you've got big players coming
Speaker 3: in making multi billion dollar decisions on where they put
Speaker 3: their money. Australia is not fit for purpose as it
Speaker 3: sits right now, especially with this legislation hanging over people's heads.
Speaker 3: Because what used to be six months to get a
Speaker 3: coal mine approved here in Queensland is now up to
Speaker 3: nine and years. That's the reality of where the EPBC
Speaker 3: Act is at the present moment, and they want to
Speaker 3: put another layer or two of bureaucracy over the top
Speaker 3: of that with what they call the Nature Positive Bill.
Speaker 4: It's all bad news.
Speaker 3: Let's hope like hell that they never get it through
Speaker 3: between now and the election. Of course, you know, with
Speaker 3: all the speculation of an early election, it may not
Speaker 3: get up, but it's never dead until this government is gone.
Speaker 2: That's one simple, one hundred percent. The same with the
Speaker 2: censoring of the Internet stuff. Absolutely, Linda, why are we wrong?
Speaker 4: Look?
Speaker 7: The Nature Positive Bill is a really fantastic one for
Speaker 7: a couple of reasons, because it gives you a federal
Speaker 7: regulator to protect people of clean water, clean environment, clean air,
Speaker 7: the kinds of things that are actually really critical to
Speaker 7: healthy people, healthy communities, healthy lives. Most states have epas,
Speaker 7: they function really well. They're not shutting.
Speaker 4: Down the wide duplicated angering.
Speaker 7: While James Ashby. They're actually improving people's health and improving
Speaker 7: the health of their local environment. These things are really
Speaker 7: positive things and they're good for people and good for communities.
Speaker 7: The Prime Minister has given a commitment that the bills
Speaker 7: will be back in Parliament when Parliament is due to
Speaker 7: meet in February again. And here's the question that the
Speaker 7: Greens are going to have to talk to their communities about.
Speaker 7: In Ryan, in Melbourne, in Brisbane and Griffith, you could
Speaker 7: have had nature positive laws passed today. You could have
Speaker 7: had to all those Green voters. You could have had
Speaker 7: a National Environmental.
Speaker 1: Protection you think you're watching it, But.
Speaker 7: The Greens voted against it, and so that's why this
Speaker 7: bill went down. And similarly, Peter Dutton to the Coalition right,
Speaker 7: he's going to have to make make a case to
Speaker 7: all those voters in teal seats in corect No page
Speaker 7: curtain Goldstein. I could go on and on and on.
Speaker 7: Those communities want protection for the environment and they could
Speaker 7: have had them had the Coalition voted for these laws
Speaker 7: last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go run around on this forever,
Speaker 2: but I do want to ask James one more question
Speaker 2: on this though, which is in Western Australia, the heritage
Speaker 2: laws were so bad that they sort of sung the
Speaker 2: voice before it started to sink everywhere else around the country.
Speaker 2: Queensland wasn't going for it at all. But basically this
Speaker 2: was not going to happen. Right in part Roger Cook
Speaker 2: Western Stralian Premium. It turns around, says mate, please don't
Speaker 2: put these things in place, because basically double click exactly
Speaker 2: the same effect. But if Albo's still saying this thing's
Speaker 2: still coming, then what are they trying to do. Are
Speaker 2: they trying to assume most people are so stupid that
Speaker 2: they'll think that these things have been thrown in the bin,
Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure people like yourself and active parties
Speaker 2: like One Nation will.
Speaker 1: Be more than willing to tell them what's still on
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 3: Well, Paul, that was the Cultural Heritage Bill that passed
Speaker 3: over in WA, and it caused all sorts of mayhem,
Speaker 3: not just for the mining industry, but for farmers or
Speaker 3: anyone with a slightly bigger housing block. You weren't even
Speaker 3: allowed to put a concrete driveway in your own property
Speaker 3: without seeking cultural approval to have that happen. We've got
Speaker 3: that right across the country. Now this is worse, and
Speaker 3: Lenda is right. We have got states with environ and
Speaker 3: mental protection groups already established. Why are we duplicating it.
Speaker 3: As far as I'm concerned, this should be scrapped all together.
Speaker 3: We have so much duplication on a federal level. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter whether it's education, whether it's the health minister.
Speaker 3: All these things belong as decisions to the states. So
Speaker 3: last thing we need to be doing is make it
Speaker 3: more and more difficult for investment to occur in this country.
Speaker 3: And the number one group of people that will be affected,
Speaker 3: every one of those blue collar workers that work in
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter whether it's a goal mine or iron
Speaker 3: ore or coal mine, any new future projects, because as
Speaker 3: we know, the projects that you're working on will come
Speaker 3: to an end of life at some point, and unless
Speaker 3: there's future projects in the pipeline, you're not going to
Speaker 3: have a job to go to into the future. Good
Speaker 3: luck trying to get yourself a job that pays similar money,
Speaker 3: because it won't exist in the renewables. You'll be put
Speaker 3: into that queue of learning how to make coffees for
Speaker 3: all those people that will be on the train, because
Speaker 3: that's that all will all that's left but arristed geeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well until of course AI takes over that and
Speaker 2: everything else in the next little while. All right, we
Speaker 2: know we're in the fake election campaign. Now between now
Speaker 2: and when either Parliament does or doesn't most likely why
Speaker 2: view doesn't come back early election has announced as soon
Speaker 2: as austraighted day a week after two weeks three. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I want to ask a slightly different way to talk
Speaker 2: about this issue than which is you're going to have
Speaker 2: like ninety seconds each.
Speaker 1: Okay, free advice.
Speaker 2: How do you think if you could give the prime
Speaker 2: minister advice you would stop Peter Dutton and get yourself
Speaker 2: re elected.
Speaker 7: Look again, the Prime Minister does not need my advice.
Speaker 7: And I think the government's done the work Cheaper childcare,
Speaker 7: increase wages, tax cuts of billions of dollars to every
Speaker 7: Australian that Australians.
Speaker 1: Were already regretting this scene, and then.
Speaker 7: The coalition your free tape, cheaper medicines.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: I could go on and on about all the things
Speaker 7: that Tabor and the Prime Minister have delivered, but let's
Speaker 7: be clear.
Speaker 4: For all those places, if you look.
Speaker 7: Across the world, and if you look you know recently
Speaker 7: in elections labor will be the underdog. They will be
Speaker 7: the underdog because at the moment in the world elections
Speaker 7: right across the world, underdogs are having a.
Speaker 1: Tough So what's done in soft belly that you'd poke out?
Speaker 7: I think he's got to tell people why he thinks
Speaker 7: nuclear power plants that can't be built for decades will
Speaker 7: deliver cheaper power to communities. They won't. He's got to
Speaker 7: tell them why there was no research done on the
Speaker 7: land that these power plants were promised on, why communities
Speaker 7: weren't consulting.
Speaker 1: You're going all in onw.
Speaker 7: Outline of vision. He's got an outline of vision for
Speaker 7: the future of Australia, and all he's done so far
Speaker 7: is just block bills, block ideas, block progress. He's just
Speaker 7: so negative.
Speaker 2: Well, perhaps when you think somebody is doing the wrong
Speaker 2: thing and you keep saying no, I don't know that
Speaker 2: that's negative. But still I was going to say I
Speaker 2: didn't interrupt you, and then I realized.
Speaker 1: I interrupt you for that. You well, I mean credit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did my best.
Speaker 2: You wait till like the bold predictions where I do
Speaker 2: buy my tongue's best. I can James reverse though free advice.
Speaker 2: How does somebody take on Albert?
Speaker 3: Look, the Labor Party will be going in as the underdog,
Speaker 3: but the problem is you've got at least thirty five
Speaker 3: percent of the Australian population that don't want to vote
Speaker 3: for either of the two major parties One Nation. We
Speaker 3: know we're not going to be government in this next
Speaker 3: term of parliament. I'd hoped that we have more of
Speaker 3: a say in our Senate. I hope that One Nation
Speaker 3: win seats there. But it's going to take bold ideas.
Speaker 3: It's going to take a reversal of the path that
Speaker 3: we've been on for the last three years under this government,
Speaker 3: but more importantly, the path that the Coalition have been
Speaker 3: distracted to go down in the past fifteen years. And
Speaker 3: I think the number one priority for the next government
Speaker 3: would have to be to ensure that we don't allow
Speaker 3: the volumes of people into this country that we've been taking.
Speaker 3: You cannot accept the million people into a country and
Speaker 3: still expect to house them and provide a cheap way
Speaker 3: of life when rental prices are going through the roof.
Speaker 3: So there's got to be a bold stance on immigration.
Speaker 3: I also think too, we're certainly going to be taking
Speaker 3: the argument to the Australian people that we've got to
Speaker 3: make citizenship tougher to get and if you're a bad bugger,
Speaker 3: you won't get citizenship in this country. I'm tired of
Speaker 3: those dead shits that we allow into this country and
Speaker 3: we simply give them citizenship within a couple of years
Speaker 3: and they play up to such a point we can't
Speaker 3: get rid of them.
Speaker 4: So we've got to make it harder. There's going to be.
Speaker 3: A whole raft of bold initiatives that need to be
Speaker 3: taken from the Conservatives if we're to roll this government.
Speaker 2: Jeez, I know he just had a little practice, but mate,
Speaker 2: anytime you want to run for the Senate or somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Run, James run.
Speaker 2: I love that stuff. Notice I didn't interrupt h because
Speaker 2: I don't disagree. Sadly, that's just the way it works
Speaker 2: when you.
Speaker 1: Have the show.
Speaker 7: I disagree with almost everything here.
Speaker 2: I have no doubt what a Christmas party it had been.
Speaker 2: All right, Quick down, great back with more, some bold
Speaker 2: predictions for the week ahead, lots of other stuff in
Speaker 2: the intrade. More in a moment here on Paul Murray
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Speaker 1: Send it some emails outtown.
Speaker 2: It's gonnus dot com dot au with your suggestions.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for watching.
Speaker 2: We're here of course Sunday night, spending it with two
Speaker 2: people who agree on everything, James Ashby and Lynda Scott.
Speaker 2: Think of it as like a little training session for
Speaker 2: the upcoming family event that you may be having in
Speaker 2: the next little while, although I think most Australian events
Speaker 2: we just go whatever.
Speaker 1: Mate, Anyway, what's going on? You are right, which is
Speaker 1: the way it should be.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Melbourne having a conversation on its fringes about
Speaker 2: more housing.
Speaker 1: Why because we are more people.
Speaker 2: In the country than we have had ever before, and
Speaker 2: of course there are not enough places to put them.
Speaker 2: But guess what, depending on where the area is, locals
Speaker 2: turn around and say not in my backyard. And there
Speaker 2: are politicians that will cater to them, like the Teals,
Speaker 2: the Greens, or in this case the Victorian Opposition leader
Speaker 2: was often shaking hands with people who want to stop
Speaker 2: a significant amount of unit developments in those parts of Melbourne. Linda,
Speaker 2: as somebody who's seen it from the local council area.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't.
Speaker 2: Think of anything more emotive for people, then why is
Speaker 2: my area changing?
Speaker 1: Right? And I understand why.
Speaker 2: People feel that, But if the people were consistent about
Speaker 2: their view, I think they'd have a strong view about
Speaker 2: limiting immigration as well. But they're all for bigger stratag
Speaker 2: just as long as it's not my suburb that gets bigger.
Speaker 1: How does one square that circle?
Speaker 7: Look, I do think it's tricky because we know we
Speaker 7: have a shortage of houses, and some of that is
Speaker 7: because of materials and some of it's because of skill shortages.
Speaker 7: But in part we do need to get on and
Speaker 7: build more housing and more housing in places that are
Speaker 7: close to jobs. So we've seen the opposition leader in
Speaker 7: Victoria kind of oppose a lot of this new housing
Speaker 7: and also say we should be going out to the regions. Now,
Speaker 7: I'm also for all new housing in the regions. Great,
Speaker 7: but the problem is you've then got to find a
Speaker 7: way to fund the roads. You've got to find to
Speaker 7: fund the hospitals, fit the pothole have these increased population
Speaker 7: centers in different places. So we do need to have
Speaker 7: these sensible conversations. I continue to think, and I'll say
Speaker 7: this to my dying day. Local governments are the best
Speaker 7: place to have these conversations, and so kind of stripping
Speaker 7: away planning powers from councils where they don't want to
Speaker 7: give them a way that does make communities upset. I
Speaker 7: think councils are really well placed as a level of
Speaker 7: government to go to communities and say, hey, listen, you know,
Speaker 7: do you think this block or this street do we
Speaker 7: need a new oval here. As a result, they're good
Speaker 7: at doing that place based planning. But we can't avoid
Speaker 7: the fact that we need more houses. We can't afford them.
Speaker 7: We can't avoid the fact that we need more affordable housing.
Speaker 7: And look, I do want to make this point. We
Speaker 7: should not make people choose between superannuation and housing. We
Speaker 7: should not allow a policy that allows people.
Speaker 1: To draw down this if they're going to earn.
Speaker 7: And it's going to pump up house prices.
Speaker 2: And we know that we will have a chat in
Speaker 2: another day about that. Immigration pushes it up as well.
Speaker 2: Scarcity is part of the issue too, James. Again, there's
Speaker 2: always going to be the politician who turns around says
Speaker 2: leave everything the way that it is, please vote for me, right, great,
Speaker 2: But unless that person is consistent across all those areas.
Speaker 2: Then they're talking out there proverbial, right, And you've seen
Speaker 2: this when you're running for state, Right, There'll always be
Speaker 2: someone who's going to try to take that lane.
Speaker 1: But when it's the alternative.
Speaker 2: Premiere of Victoria, I mean, you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 2: It can't just all go to Swann Hill and Bendingo.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, I must admit where I am in Kooey Bay
Speaker 3: here in your poon. I don't want to see high
Speaker 3: density living in my little pocket because I bought there,
Speaker 3: because I like the fact.
Speaker 4: That we're all low density here.
Speaker 3: We can pull up out the front of the house
Speaker 3: there and we're not fighting for cast spaces, and we're
Speaker 3: not fighting to try and get access to the beach.
Speaker 3: We've got no shortage of land in this country. If
Speaker 3: you haven't had a look on the map, very minute
Speaker 3: amount of it has been developed. The issue that we've
Speaker 3: got here is it's hard to get approvals. That is
Speaker 3: the biggest challenge that any developers face with in our area.
Speaker 3: And I think this stretches right across the whole country.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, if you don't want
Speaker 3: high density in your area, you should be allowed to
Speaker 3: say that you should be voicing that opinion to your
Speaker 3: local counselors or members of parliament, and you should be
Speaker 3: listened to. I certainly don't want high rise apartments built
Speaker 3: beside me.
Speaker 4: It's not what I'm looking for. So call me in
Speaker 4: Nimby if you want.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, people have a
Speaker 3: right to live in their communities, not some high density living.
Speaker 1: Area without giving anything away.
Speaker 2: I'm aware of that beautiful part of Australia that you're
Speaker 2: in and I agree with you.
Speaker 1: No change, don't change. Yeah, no want here.
Speaker 4: No, it's the worst. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't it all right?
Speaker 2: Let's get a bold prediction for the week ahead, Linda,
Speaker 2: what's definitely happening this week? No parliament around, So what's
Speaker 2: definitely happening this week?
Speaker 1: Is your bold prediction?
Speaker 7: Look, it's the first of December, so it's the official
Speaker 7: start of the Christmas season. I'm very excited. I want
Speaker 7: to say I'm picking up the wreath from the local
Speaker 7: flores tomorrow, I'm preaking up the Christmas tree from the
Speaker 7: local primary school fundraiser on Saturday. I'm very excited. I'm
Speaker 7: not going to be political. I will be another you
Speaker 7: know varieties at the show, PAULI, but it's the time.
Speaker 1: The prediction is, it's that time of the year.
Speaker 7: It's going to be good.
Speaker 1: I'm with you this. I'm pumped about it this year,
Speaker 1: looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: I've already got the Christmas lists anywhere now, James Bowl
Speaker 2: prediction for.
Speaker 4: You, Well, I think I've been on camera long enough tonight.
Speaker 3: The Miss Dessert, Mum and Dad's at one of the
Speaker 3: things will be working on for Christmas. Christmas, we'll be
Speaker 3: working on a cartoon for next year and it might
Speaker 3: be a weekly series.
Speaker 4: It'll be a movie, Paul, What a movie?
Speaker 1: Are you going to do it?
Speaker 4: Movie?
Speaker 1: Like a feeding and proper?
Speaker 2: Absolutely a movie of the please explain red carpet or
Speaker 2: orange carpet in.
Speaker 7: This case, genuinely terrified.
Speaker 1: No, it's bloody fantastic. I'm just thinking about how much
Speaker 1: rum ticket betwey daddy.
Speaker 2: I look forward to the cameo. All right, Thank you guys,
Speaker 2: do appreciate. We'll see you all again out there. Start
Speaker 2: should look that way right TV. All right, that is
Speaker 2: our shaff right, thank you very much for watching Royal
Speaker 2: Report on its way and we'll be back. Remember ignore
Speaker 2: everything else, just be here each and every night, looking
Speaker 2: forward to it,