WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 1 December

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<v Speaker 1>From the Sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys, Happy Sunday wherever you happen to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been a wet Sunday for a significant parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the country sincebod was a Sydney absolutely copying it,

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<v Speaker 2>which means we heard World War news coverage of it

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where much of the media lives.

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<v Speaker 1>My focus, however, is on Brisbane, where.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of their birds copped the best part of seventy

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<v Speaker 2>mills in less than twenty four hours. Here is some

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<v Speaker 2>of the stuff that has happened as creeks, lakes and

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<v Speaker 2>even parts of the river start to overflow. Sadly flooding

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<v Speaker 2>nothing near to Queensland, but this is the first day

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<v Speaker 2>of summer, means we should talk about something that flooded.

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<v Speaker 2>The m one had trains suspended, a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff affecting very normal people like you.

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<v Speaker 3>This Sunday's my running path here and yeah, not going

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<v Speaker 3>for a run today.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen a go this fast. It just came

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<v Speaker 4>up fast and it was a real shock. Are we

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<v Speaker 4>cleaning up right now so hopefully we'll get open in

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<v Speaker 4>a couple hours. Can't get through fully flooded.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't realize it had to come up this far.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually again, do everyone affected joke about the suburbs and

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<v Speaker 2>the media For the non media people, obviously, my thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>are with the you, strength and life to everyone who's

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<v Speaker 2>having to deal with this stuff start of summer. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the country that we live in, but that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't have to respond to things like this.

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<v Speaker 2>As for the Bureau, this is their insight today.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a handful of locations in the southeast that

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<v Speaker 5>saw their weddest December Day in around twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>While this is happening for lots of Australians, I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to know the Prime Minister is okay. In fact

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<v Speaker 2>better than okay, because despite the fact that this weekend

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<v Speaker 2>was the lowest number of auction clearances that have happened

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<v Speaker 2>all year, there were plenty of places that were for sale, including,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, as you know, a Prime ministerial investment property.

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<v Speaker 2>But before I get to that, just sixty three zero

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<v Speaker 2>point four percent of homes that were sold under the

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<v Speaker 2>Hammer based on the preliminary data that is held together

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<v Speaker 2>by core Logic. This is down from sixty five point

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<v Speaker 2>three percent of war properties available last week. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the worst result that has happened this year, which matches

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<v Speaker 2>what happened about a month ago in the first week

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<v Speaker 2>of November. But I mentioned the Prime Minister because you

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<v Speaker 2>do need to know that our Prime Minister, who was,

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<v Speaker 2>of course one of us, always focused on people when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to cost of a living. To drive that

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<v Speaker 2>point home, remember a couple of months ago he bought

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<v Speaker 2>a four point.

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<v Speaker 1>Three million dollar place.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it might be the place he retires to fingers

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<v Speaker 2>crossed the Australian people send him there earlier than he

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<v Speaker 2>plans to send many other people to the wall. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, to actually pay off the four and a

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<v Speaker 2>bit million dollars, he had to offload some of his

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<v Speaker 2>investment properties, principally one in the Inner West place called

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<v Speaker 2>Dulich Hill, nice little joint. Now he's had some trouble here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, I want people to understand, Okay, a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of flash flooding here and there, but the

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<v Speaker 2>real victim is none of than the Prime Minister. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>struggling to flowed the property. He had to drop the

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<v Speaker 2>price on the property. But relax everyone, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to make the four point three million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>because he has sold this weekend the joint for one

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<v Speaker 2>point seven five million dollars. No wonder he is all

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<v Speaker 2>thumbs up. And don't forget the reason I'm including Penny

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<v Speaker 2>Wong is while many Australians struggle under the cost of

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<v Speaker 2>living issues going into this Christmas, she bought a joint

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<v Speaker 2>in Adelaide for three point four million dollars. Jesus pays

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<v Speaker 2>to be paid by everyone else. Right, These are lifers

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<v Speaker 2>of our political system, the result of which is millions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars to spend on property that's far better than

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<v Speaker 2>the extreme majority of Australians could ever wish to own,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they won second prize in lotto. Meantime, the

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<v Speaker 2>reality for Australians many this Christmas. This is why this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff's tone deaf. It's why people are frustrated. Remember we

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<v Speaker 2>told you about half of the people using the Channel

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<v Speaker 2>one website saying that they're going to have to pull

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<v Speaker 2>back on some of their spending this Christmas cost a

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<v Speaker 2>living Christmas even heard that term at lunch today being

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<v Speaker 2>used by family members about why adults aren't going to

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<v Speaker 2>be giving presents to each other this year, and a

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<v Speaker 2>shocking three median people, remember, are this close to homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>Three and a half million. Don't even know where the

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<v Speaker 2>next meal is coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's okay everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister sold not his main house but his

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<v Speaker 2>investment praise for one point seven because he needs to

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<v Speaker 2>pay four point three for the place that one day

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<v Speaker 2>he'll retire to the place that just so happens to

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<v Speaker 2>be accessed by a road that his government is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be upgrading. Which the one thing that is true

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<v Speaker 2>about the first of December. A part of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that we start to have nice stuff like this around,

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<v Speaker 2>the weather starts to change.

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<v Speaker 1>We are on our way to a federal election.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there could be one as early as the start

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<v Speaker 2>of March. If it's the start of March and it's

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<v Speaker 2>called at the end of January thirty three days. That

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<v Speaker 2>basically is how the maths works. However, Parliament, if it

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<v Speaker 2>comes back at all, I don't think it will. But

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<v Speaker 2>if it does, it'll only be for a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks and then we're off to March or April.

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<v Speaker 1>Very little chance of it getting to May.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to give you an idea about how

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<v Speaker 2>they are going to fight things between now and official

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<v Speaker 2>election time or when Parliament comes back early next year,

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister in Peter Dutton will be dueling election

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<v Speaker 2>style campaigns across the country and the short run to

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<v Speaker 2>the summer break, both leaders said to unveil competing policies

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<v Speaker 2>targeting households in the group of the prolonged cost of

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<v Speaker 2>living crisis helps, of course, if you've just been able

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<v Speaker 2>to offload the one point seventy five million dollar investment

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<v Speaker 2>property to help pay the what four hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>stamp duty four a deposit and stamp duty that he

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<v Speaker 2>may well have to pay on his four point three

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<v Speaker 2>But you know he gets you. The mister Prime Minister's

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<v Speaker 2>off to Western Australia after personally intervening to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of the Nature positive legislation. Now, one of the problems

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<v Speaker 2>with the Nature Positive legislation was that it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to work very much like the Aboriginal Heritage legislation that

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<v Speaker 2>the West Australian government put in place. Was so bad

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<v Speaker 2>that it helped Western Australia be one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>states in the country evading no and the mere whiff

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<v Speaker 2>of it would end up killing off Labour's prospects in

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<v Speaker 2>Western Australia. But surprise, surprise, there's always a little detail

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get to in a moment that they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>you to see. Mister Dutton is going to be targeting

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<v Speaker 2>Labor and the teal seats in Western Australia, Victoria and

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<v Speaker 2>New so Well, South of Australia, Tasmania, Queensland, the Northern Territory,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning he's going everywhere. But I'm pleased to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going everywhere, right the act the only place is

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<v Speaker 2>not going but he's going to go from Queensland in

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales to Victoria, to Tasmania, South Australia to

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<v Speaker 2>Western Australia, thank you, Scoop and the Northern Territory to

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<v Speaker 2>visit all of the key seats and the lead up

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<v Speaker 2>to Christmas. But one of the reasons I need you

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<v Speaker 2>to stick with us when the cricket's on, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the tests, the Big Bash, when the Carols are on,

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<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it. Right, please series link the

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<v Speaker 2>show if you have the chance to on the Fox

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<v Speaker 2>cell box hit us as the What Show. If you

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<v Speaker 2>watch us on one of the apps like Flash or Binge,

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<v Speaker 2>or of course if you're watching us right now on

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<v Speaker 2>Skinney's Regional again. Find a way to see you linked

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<v Speaker 2>the program and did you see every episode before now

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<v Speaker 2>and when we take the Christmas break, because now is

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<v Speaker 2>when they assume you are not paying attention. Because if

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<v Speaker 2>you are not paying attention, then guess what they can do.

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<v Speaker 2>A whole bunch of stuff that they are able to

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<v Speaker 2>fly under people's noses and people won't notice going into

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<v Speaker 2>the next election.

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<v Speaker 1>My job between now.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we break up in a little whole's time

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<v Speaker 2>is to keep an eye on the bouncing ball.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>But please join us nine o'clock AUSTRAIGHTI in the eastern

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<v Speaker 2>daylight time every night, regardless of what else is on

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of cricket, fun or anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But please return to our show, watch it live, watch

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<v Speaker 2>it on delay, watch the videos on YouTuber at skynews

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<v Speaker 2>dot com dot a you because there's details like this

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister might be off to Western Australia too, among

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<v Speaker 2>other things. Say oh that nature positive thing dead Bury cremated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not happening now again. Remember the nature positive legislation

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<v Speaker 2>was being negotiated in chief by the Environment Minister Tanya Plubasik.

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<v Speaker 2>Now she hasn't had a fantastic year, particularly the gold

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<v Speaker 2>mine was being, among other things, banned because of well

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<v Speaker 2>local populations and very specific, very specific cultural reasons. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's get back to the Nature Positive plan for a

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<v Speaker 2>better environment, which is better for business. This was the

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<v Speaker 2>spin from the same people who said, let's change to

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<v Speaker 2>eighty three percent renewables because it'll bring down your power

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<v Speaker 2>prices by two hundred and seventy five. Neither of those happened. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the three strokes are out now. The inside deal

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<v Speaker 2>that most people paid attention to last week was that

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister seemingly sort of leapfrogged over the Minister

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<v Speaker 2>to overrule the Minister for this thing to make its

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<v Speaker 2>way through the Parliament with the help of the Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>Now remember three quarters of the stuff that they end

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<v Speaker 2>up passing is with support of the Greens, with support of.

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<v Speaker 1>The left wing crossbench.

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<v Speaker 2>That I only had a thing about the Nature Positive

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<v Speaker 2>and inside the secret EPA deal. Remember the Environmental Protection Agency,

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<v Speaker 2>the one that will go after you for tree clearing

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<v Speaker 2>like it has in Queensland, or this will go national.

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<v Speaker 2>It was announced literally the day before the last election

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't want any scrutiny on it. Well, the

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<v Speaker 2>scrutiny on it was about to pass the parliament, however,

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister apparently stepped in and said, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a step too far. The policy that I

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<v Speaker 2>announced the day before the last election, the policy that

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<v Speaker 2>I told you to go and negotiate. No no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is terrible and it must be stopped. So what

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<v Speaker 2>you probably saw on the news last week was stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like this from the Greens.

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<v Speaker 5>We were very clear from the beginning of these negotiations

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<v Speaker 5>that if you want laws that protect nature, you've got

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<v Speaker 5>to stop the logging and you've got to stop the pollution.

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<v Speaker 5>It was made very clear to us that the Prime

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<v Speaker 5>Minister was not going to budge on a climate on

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<v Speaker 5>those climate demands, so we put them aside. But even

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<v Speaker 5>that wasn't enough to satisfy the vested interests of Gina

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<v Speaker 5>ran Hart and the mining industry. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 5>take my word for it. They were out crowing that

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<v Speaker 5>they had won the day before anyone else even knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Please.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there was mining and very significant employers who paid

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<v Speaker 2>more tax than anyone else in the country who were

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<v Speaker 2>saying this was a good thing because the laws went

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<v Speaker 2>too far. Again, this stuff was announced the day before,

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<v Speaker 2>not at the campaign launch, not weeks before, not months before,

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<v Speaker 2>not years before. In opposition, it was done the day

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<v Speaker 2>before in part to save Terry Butler. Yes, that Terry Butler,

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<v Speaker 2>the very woke labor minister shadow minister who ended up

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<v Speaker 2>getting rolled by a Green in the seat of Griffith,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the old Karen Rudd's seat. And yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>miners were happy that this thing had gone away. Why

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<v Speaker 2>am I talking about this at the start of another week,

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<v Speaker 2>because guess what. The Prime Minister has not killed off

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<v Speaker 2>the legislation. What he has killed off is the fight.

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<v Speaker 2>What he has killed off is people who hated their

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<v Speaker 2>heritage legislation in Western Australia being able to waive this

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<v Speaker 2>legislation in his face when he turns up there at

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<v Speaker 2>the start of the fake election campaign. Now, if you

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the spin that the Guardian has put on it,

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<v Speaker 2>here he is, in his own words today on Taxpayer TV.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's our intention to proceed with them, but will

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<v Speaker 6>proceed with them on the basis of our values that

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<v Speaker 6>we put forward. These laws could have been carried at

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<v Speaker 6>any time over recent months, if the Parliament had the

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<v Speaker 6>numbers to vote for.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, Nature positive is not dead. The promise still exists,

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<v Speaker 2>the legislation still exists, and the intent still exists now.

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<v Speaker 2>James Ashby whill join us on the show a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit later. He was one of the first to build

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<v Speaker 2>the cats on how bad this was, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>when it was just their version of the legislation. Matt Canavan,

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<v Speaker 2>who has spoken about it many times in the months

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<v Speaker 2>of this thing's been going through the Parliament, has built

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<v Speaker 2>the cat that this thing is as bad as, if

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<v Speaker 2>not worse than, the heritage legislation in Western Australia. So

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<v Speaker 2>as the Prime Minister tries to curry favor with West

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<v Speaker 2>Australian voters by pretending that he's put two in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of this bad piece of legislation, by his own

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<v Speaker 2>admission on television today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still well and he if you got better numbers

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<v Speaker 2>than the Senate would pass it like that. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the reality of what is happening right now. Why you

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<v Speaker 2>have to be here each and every night so we

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you what they are trying to hide. As

0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.880
<v Speaker 2>people start to turn their attention to the gifts sort

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<v Speaker 2>of go under the tree the sport was played at

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<v Speaker 2>this time of the year. Or frankly and understandably, people

0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.520
<v Speaker 2>who've got to that time of the year where they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of over it. We're not to be here each

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<v Speaker 2>and every night. Thank you for joining me over here.

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<v Speaker 2>So Western Australia, why does it matter? Well, it always matters,

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<v Speaker 2>but why does it matter in particular when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to this election. You would recall that in the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two election, Now Quacus couldn't vote, but I love

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<v Speaker 2>Western Australia. That was us heading off to Rotnest Island

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Ourtown will be back by the way next year.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you'd like to give us an idea of locations,

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<v Speaker 2>we should go to Hey, send me an email right

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<v Speaker 2>outound at skydews dot com that are you outdoud at

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<v Speaker 2>skynews dot com that are year.

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<v Speaker 1>There am at Roddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully you get a chance to go and see them

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<v Speaker 2>catch the ferry over from Frio.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>As for the actual voting in Western Australia at the

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<v Speaker 2>last federal election, there was a significant change from people

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<v Speaker 2>who had voted Coalition in the past to moving across

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<v Speaker 2>to Labor. You can see they're ten points down. It

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<v Speaker 2>meant that a whole collection of seats moved, sometimes for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time ever from blue to red. Labor the

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<v Speaker 2>key beneficiary a little bit off in minor parties, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can see that basically people walk from one side

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<v Speaker 2>of the street.

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<v Speaker 1>To the other.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to give you an idea, not just that,

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<v Speaker 2>oh this massive swing of here's the reality. Right, if

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty thousand people change their mind, or even fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people change their mind, then those margins start to close,

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<v Speaker 2>and seats that they currently have will they become at

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<v Speaker 2>the very best marginal or they may well start flowing

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<v Speaker 2>back the Coalition's way.

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<v Speaker 1>Simply, we will all next.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, regardless of what time the election is be looking

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<v Speaker 2>to Western Australia as its polls close a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>hours or three depending on Australian Daylight savings time or

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<v Speaker 2>Australian Eastern Standard time, we will start to have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at Western Australia because Western Australia, if the Coalition

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<v Speaker 2>is a chance of forming a minority, well they have

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<v Speaker 2>to win seats in Western Australia for Labor to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to hold onto a majority, but most likely not.

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<v Speaker 2>They will have to hold on to everything they currently

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<v Speaker 2>have in Western Australia. Hence why the first port of

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<v Speaker 2>call for the Prime minister post what has just taken

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<v Speaker 2>place in the Parliament, among other things, the nature positive legislation. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's completely been thrown in the just into the top draw. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it lives. So I need to show you

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<v Speaker 2>the seats that are in danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember some of these things like Pierce might seem like jeez,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a marginal seat. Well of course population wise,

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<v Speaker 2>and if only what between fifteen thirty thousand people change

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<v Speaker 2>their mind, all of these things could switch back from

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<v Speaker 2>red to blue. In terms of the Blue though they

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<v Speaker 2>need to be able to improve on their performance from

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two. They can't afford to lose more Canning,

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<v Speaker 2>Duraq Forest or O'Connor. So again, all of these margins

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<v Speaker 2>are relatively close in a state where the population is

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<v Speaker 2>not as populous to say a Victoria or New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 2>and the electorates if they swing, they could swing hard.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know that there's a lot of issues with

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<v Speaker 2>the local government. So that's why Western Australia matters. It

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<v Speaker 2>also is why when the Prime Minister turns up in

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<v Speaker 2>Western Australia and pulls off garbage like he did. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>when he turned up and the reporter for the newspaper was, oh, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>can you sign a pledge here that you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to change anything about the GST. Remember who the reporter was,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who was a media advisor to a minister in

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<v Speaker 2>the Albanese government when they were the Albanese government, no

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<v Speaker 2>way back when. But in the Albanese government it was

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a Labor Party stunt done with a staffer who

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<v Speaker 2>was of labor extraction.

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<v Speaker 1>That nature positive and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ability for just a few people in an entire state

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<v Speaker 2>to go from here to there and the entire picture

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<v Speaker 2>could change.

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<v Speaker 1>Western Australia will be the difference. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked a lot in American politics about swing states

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<v Speaker 2>and this matters, and this again marginal seats are all

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<v Speaker 2>always what matters. But there are different things happening in

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<v Speaker 2>different states around the country that will either show the

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<v Speaker 2>coalition getting close enough to form its own version of

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<v Speaker 2>minority or Labor falling back far enough to lose its majority.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that will be decided in part by Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Every day between now and when that decision is made,

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<v Speaker 2>we're here keeping an eye on it for you. You can

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<v Speaker 2>always see men Ema Paul It's goynews dot com dot

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<v Speaker 2>Au further insight into things about that election coming up

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<v Speaker 2>know a couple of distractions between now and the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. So there is one question that is

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<v Speaker 2>the only question that people should be debating between now

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<v Speaker 2>and that next federal election, and it is am I

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<v Speaker 2>better off than when Albo was not the prime minister,

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<v Speaker 2>or since Albo's become the prime minister. I showed you

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<v Speaker 2>last week the Red Bridge Poland. It showed fifty seven

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<v Speaker 2>percent of people who are not better off than they

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<v Speaker 2>were two and a half years ago. That question will

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<v Speaker 2>of course become are you better off than you were

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<v Speaker 2>three years ago? If we get even close to May

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<v Speaker 2>of next year. So the best part of sixty percent,

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty percent who are okay, that's funnily enough about

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<v Speaker 2>the primary vote of the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not sures.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, even if you moved every single person who's not

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<v Speaker 2>sure over to yes, no, we'll still beat them. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the simple mats here. Remember when you see not sure,

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, we're undecided, split it in half. Guess what, No,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll win by an even bigger margin than it currently does.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I want to break down.

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<v Speaker 2>A little more here in terms of locations worse off

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<v Speaker 2>than you were before Albou became the Prime minister. For

0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.280
<v Speaker 2>people who live in the cities, they are eighteen percent

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<v Speaker 2>worse off, in the otta suburbs thirty three percent, in

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<v Speaker 2>regional areas thirty one percent, and in rural areas twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine percent. Meantime, a bit more detail. They came today

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<v Speaker 2>via James Campbell excellent colins in the Sunday Herald Sun,

0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the Sunday Telegraph, the Sunday Mail Ties are and lots

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<v Speaker 2>of other places that are around today. Let's have a

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<v Speaker 2>look about people who are in financial stress. Now this way,

0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the people who agree are in the blue. The people

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.840
<v Speaker 2>who disagree are in the red. So those that are

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<v Speaker 2>in a great deal of stress there are twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent more of those than about the same or better

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<v Speaker 2>off people are in some stress thirty one percent, some

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<v Speaker 2>people that are in not much stress at all. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty six percent of people there and not much stress.

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting here that those that are in trouble are

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<v Speaker 2>in a world of trouble. Those that are doing okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to feel they are doing particularly well. But

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<v Speaker 2>interesting again, when you start to break it down, are

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<v Speaker 2>you in some sort of financial stress? You can see

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<v Speaker 2>they're The numbers are by twenty percent between the ages

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<v Speaker 2>of eighteen to thirty four, twenty one percent between thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five to forty nine, thirty percent between fifty to sixty four,

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty six percent of people who are over the

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<v Speaker 2>age of sixty five saying they are in financial stress

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<v Speaker 2>right now. When it comes to jobs, doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a professional, a blue collar worker, sales worker, somebody

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 2>who's not working with, someone who's retiring. All of them

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<v Speaker 2>are in some sort of financial stress. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>if you earn three thousand dollars a week between two

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<v Speaker 2>and three, between one and two, less than one will

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<v Speaker 2>prefer not to say all of those people are in

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<v Speaker 2>financial stress. But apparently the Prime Minister, according to one

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<v Speaker 2>of the write ups and one of the friendly parts of.

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<v Speaker 1>The press, he's got a brand new catchphrase.

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<v Speaker 2>This all comes from apparently one term that he used

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<v Speaker 2>before Parliament finished at the end of the week, and

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<v Speaker 2>apparently you're going to hear a lot of this between

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<v Speaker 2>now and the election.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got your back, is our message to Australian parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you might have our back, Prime Minister, but Australians

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<v Speaker 2>have got size nine steel cap shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>And while you're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About backs, there might be a little bit lower that

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<v Speaker 2>some of those shoes may well end up be booting

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<v Speaker 2>him in the political sense next to you for being crass.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am a bogan.

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<v Speaker 2>After all being the first of December, I can officially

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<v Speaker 2>declare this to be not just the start of summer,

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<v Speaker 2>but the earliest time I have ever discussed the debate,

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<v Speaker 2>the fight, the minority view about Australia Day. As you

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<v Speaker 2>may will have heard by now, we discussed it, of

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<v Speaker 2>course in the Sunday Showdown a.

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<v Speaker 1>Couple of hours ago.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a very significant company called the Australian Venues Company,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are the second biggest pub owner in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have told us at the very start of summer,

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<v Speaker 2>do not expect any recognition whatsoever at all when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to Australia Day. Why because they believe, among other things,

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<v Speaker 2>that what makes Australia great in its venues happens all

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<v Speaker 2>the way through the year, and that Australia Day is

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<v Speaker 2>a day that causes sadness for some members of our community.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've decided not to specifically celebrate a day that

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<v Speaker 2>hurts for some of our patrons and our team. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>is it there right to take this position?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? Is it your right to move your money from

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<v Speaker 1>their venues? Absolutely? Now, before we start getting into a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Where all the right wings calling for a boycott, don't

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm just saying it's up to you. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>lots of ways you can respond to this, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of them should be respectful. Okay, we're not the mob

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<v Speaker 2>that's going around and carrying on like the extreme left does.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you can write a letter, you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to contact the bosses here, but again, most importantly,

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.040
<v Speaker 2>you can decide where your money goes now because of

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<v Speaker 2>the way that basically, if you've got any problems with

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<v Speaker 2>the negative gearing system where somebody ends up buying five

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 2>or six houses, well, the pub industry is basically that

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.680
<v Speaker 2>on steroids, because once you've got your first couple, you're

0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:58.959
<v Speaker 2>able to borrow against the value of those, and then

0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 2>suddenly you're five pub operation becomes well two hundred. We

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>know that basically you can't lose money, and in part

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that's because of gaming machines and many of the venues

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 2>which are going to be affected by the ban here,

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and there's lots of them in lots of different states.

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 2>You are going to see that while they will be

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 2>saving people hurt by not marking Australia Day, you'll still

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 2>be able to lose your life savings in a poker

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 2>machine at that venue on January twenty six. Now, again,

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 2>there are supposedly laws about responsible service of alcohol, now

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 2>supposedly about responsible service of gaming, and I would assume

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 2>that every member of their team is well trained and

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 2>absolutely this company follows that law. But again, if we're

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 2>going to start playing games about the greater emotional significance

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>of a day, why are they still in a business

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 2>that serves alcohol. Why are they still in a business that,

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 2>of course has, among other things, poker machines. Now this

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 2>one's a little tough for me, and I'm not going

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 2>to sit on the fence about it because one of

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.719
<v Speaker 2>the venues is a place that I have loved my

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:06.439
<v Speaker 2>entire adult life, and until it's under new management, I

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 2>won't be going back. And that's what you can do

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 2>with your dollars. I'll make sure that I put up

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.199
<v Speaker 2>the list of all of their venues. Again, respectful, do

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 2>not ring them and abuse them, Do not have a

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 2>go at the bar staff. It's not their decisions, it's

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 2>somebody apparently in the marketing department. This decision will only

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 2>be changed if there is a consequence to their business

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>of a downturn in trade, if they have the quieter summer. Again,

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't want people to be losing their jobs, particularly

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 2>not during a cost of living crisis. But I want

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 2>the management to understand that there are multiple views about

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 2>our national Day, including the majority view, which is that

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the day should be marked. Because if there's anyone who

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 2>believes that moving the date to a different day will

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 2>somehow remove the central issues, that mean companies like the

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 2>organizations who protest against it won't because it's April fourteenth,

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Well then no. The whole point is of this movement

0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 2>is to stop a celebration of modern Australia, the modern

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Australia where you can slowly but surely end up building

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 2>so many businesses that you've got a couple of hundred

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 2>pubs with many hundreds more poker machines. But you jump

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 2>up on that high horse, guys, shame. I really like

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the place they've been going for a long term, really

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 2>really nice people, and they know what I like, and

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I like going there and it's a lovely thing every

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 2>until they change. Now I always talk about other people's money,

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 2>perfect example. Of course, it's a government council's all the

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 2>rest of it, just piddling away your tax money up

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 2>against the wall.

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Why because they can Why because they do.

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 2>But there's a version of this that has just seeped

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 2>into our political system everywhere there's an attempt to do

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 2>it at the federal level. It's been passed in Western

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Australia and Queensland, in Victoria and now South Australia, which

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>is this move to a system where the politicians stand

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 2>up and so we are no longer accepting donations.

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>We are taking big money out of politics. All sort

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>of code for the client palmers spending, but the teal

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>billionaire completely fine.

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>We will set up a scenario where the unions are

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 2>completely independent entities, despite the fact that, of course they're

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent of the Labor Party.

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Check their constitution.

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, the amount of money that the taxpayer in South

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Australia is going to hand two political parties has gone up.

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Why because they're getting rid of money out of politics.

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>No, they're not turning around and saying the amount of

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 2>money that politics spends, political parties spend is going to

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.159
<v Speaker 2>go down. It's just you, the taxpayer, are going to

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 2>pay for not just the election campaign, but for everything

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that is promised in an election campaign. It also means

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 2>they have no need to have a relationship with the

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 2>private sector, which brings me back to that idea of

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 2>discussed before, this modern labor party idea that if the

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>majority of the population is either dependent on government via welfare,

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 2>dependent on government by working for government, or if you're

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>a business that your biggest client is government, then all

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 2>those people in the private sector can just bugger off

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 2>a nice way to stay in power forever because everyone

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 2>has either got the handout while they've got the hand

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>into the pocket of the people who don't have their handout.

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>The proposed laws will introduce about fifteen to twenty million

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 2>dollars more funding by a taxpayers money that will be

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 2>going to political parties and MPs. The vast majority of

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 2>that is going to go to the Liberal and Labour parties.

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Who's making that point somebody from a less lefty think tank.

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 2>They don't like this, but of course the Greens will

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 2>end up with more taxpayers money. The public funding. So

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 2>public funding supports encumbents over new entrants, and that's a

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 2>big problem because there's an unleveled playing field when it

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>comes to trying to contest elections. Yeah, you see, that's

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 2>it too, is that if you have a scenario where

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 2>the party that got more votes of the last election

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>ends up with more money than anyone else who's running.

0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Guess what happens your ability to raise money.

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>If you're somebody who is entering the system as an

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 2>independent all all the way up to being the opposition.

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not as much money as the government. It's a

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 2>way of governments trying to permanently brick themselves into power

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 2>with firstly a financial advantage over all of their political competitors,

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>a dependent population, a working for government population, or a

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>business that doesn't want to upset government because then their contracts,

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 2>of course go up in smoke.

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Nothing to see here, nothing to see here at all.

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>But when we are talking about other people's money, there

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>is one thing that I would like state government.

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.959
<v Speaker 1>To spend a lot more money on, and it's potholes.

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Now people like to center out are all over the

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>shop saying about what their priorities are and extra money

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>for this focus. I went in great chapter and verse

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 2>about how terrible the Victorian system is. One where the

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 2>triplo system check your Google machines, kids, is one that

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>sometimes can break down, so the disp are passing paces

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 2>of paper around to tell people where to go Australians

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>will not believe any government is there to truly fix

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 2>anything until you fix the freaking potholes. If you can't

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 2>put a bit of ashphalt into the ground at the

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 2>end of my street, then how can I trust you're

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to have a school system that

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>will send kids forward not backwards?

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>How will you have a police force that will enforce

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you get the point right. It is not just.

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.479
<v Speaker 2>The example, but it is the symptom of the system

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>that has broken. Now, it'd be lovely if they state

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>government turn around said look, here's the deal.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Our main priority for four years.

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Is we're going to fix up all of the roads,

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>particularly regional roads in Victoria. When we were talking to

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 2>people at the Outown show in Bendigo last week, number

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 2>one issue for many of them was the dog tracks

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>that are regional roads from swan Hill over to Bendigo

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>and terrible that road is one from Melbourne to swan

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Hill because the further you get away from where the

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>people are, apparently.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Your roads should fall away garbage. You pay enough tax.

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>To your local government, to your state government, and your

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 2>federal goverment, in fact, more than you've ever paid in

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>your life. Yet they can't fix things like the potholes.

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I need to where a ribbons

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>start a slogan or say we should have.

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>A national conversation. But could someone somewhere tell me who's

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>dropping the ball?

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>And while it's easy to turn around say oh, it's

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 2>a local council because they spend too much money on

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 2>woke stuff at the library.

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Not true.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Is it the federal government who supposedly were supposed to

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>take the fuel taxes along with the state governments and

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>put that into taking care of the roads.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>You bet you.

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>But as I've shown you before, with a structural deficit

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 2>in the federal and state budgets for the next forty years,

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>they take the money that should be going into fixing

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 2>our roads. Instead they put it on their little projects.

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Or and my favorite one, they give multi billion dollar

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>corporations your tax dollars so they hold events in your

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 2>city and in your state. Now again, I would love

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift to play every stadium in Australia. But if

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the taxpayers of a certain state have to choose between

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>potholes or concerts, it's pretty obvious to me which one

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>they should choose. Send your complaints to somebody else, because

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm right on this one. Quick shout out to Paul

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Fatty Vhughton, who's entered his television career today. He's been

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 2>associated in and around Channel nine of course for the

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 2>whole time, best but thirty something years. Congratulations to hum

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 2>and a team that won Logi after.

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Logi after Logi after Logi with his role on the

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Footy Show. All the best to him and his family meantime.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>A good decision made by this government, but it's one

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 2>that's been made by previous governments as well, and that

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 2>is to start to talk more about endometriosis.

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Too many women around our tree.

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Our sisters, our mums, our mates, they hurt because of this,

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 2>not just the physical pain, but the difficulties in the

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>falling pregnant. And it's good to see that a drug

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>that is going to help is now going to be

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 2>listed on the PBS. Whoever made that decision, Yeah, well done,

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 2>a good idea and finally the most Melbourne story that

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I could possibly think of. You know how Melbourne Central

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 2>there's that beautiful old tower. Well somebody didn't like that.

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Somebody decided to put a banner on it, trying to

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>flog a beer the world's biggest beer tower, because you

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 2>know beer towers all the rest.

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh disgraceful, How dam you.

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>They didn't knock it down, They just covered it with

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 2>an ad. That's the most Melbourne story I could think

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 2>of today. While the potholes that you would go through

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>getting to Melbourne Central, well they could ruin your car.

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>But whatever, protect the chimney.

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Quick break back with more, looking forward to night's discussion

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Bold Predictions for the Weak Ahead and.

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>The reality about Nature Positive.

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for watching us Sunday night, and I'm and heavy

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 2>handed to night, but I repeat here every night because

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you can pay attention and nothing else.

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Will come back one hour every night and I'll.

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Tell you what's really going on. Honestly, thank you so

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 2>much for watching. James Ashby from One Nation joins us. Well,

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 2>she said no fixed address politically, but we know it's

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>labor is none of them? The lovely lid of Scott

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Hello and lovely to see you both. So James, we

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>talked about Nature Positive. In fact, you were the first

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>person to turn me on to what was happening with

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Nature Positive. But because they couldn't do a deal with

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>the greens, Oh, it's all been withdrawn, but the Prime

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Minister goes on television and says, no, no, it's still

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>ready to go. Tell us what the original government idea is, right,

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 2>the one that if they got a majority in the

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Senate they would still pass.

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, Paul, the whole idea of this nature positive bill,

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing positive about it. I might just say to

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.479
<v Speaker 3>all your viewers out there. They're trying to sell it

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 3>as this, so look, this is an easy path for

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 3>minds to get approved and environmental projects will just slip

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 3>right through.

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Now, it's far from that.

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 3>In fact, they've been very open and honest in there

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 3>what very little information they have revealed to the public.

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 3>They want to lock up thirty percent of the land,

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 3>thirty percent of the oceans. That's put simple to anyone

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 3>at home, and you can't do that without shutting down

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 3>big projects, including mining, including fishing. And who's going to

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 3>pay for that? We all are because our industry is here,

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 3>particularly in the mining and commercial fishing. There what feed us?

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 4>There?

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 3>What feed the economy. They give plenty of jobs right

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 3>across the country. And when you've got big players coming

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 3>in making multi billion dollar decisions on where they put

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 3>their money. Australia is not fit for purpose as it

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 3>sits right now, especially with this legislation hanging over people's heads.

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Because what used to be six months to get a

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 3>coal mine approved here in Queensland is now up to

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 3>nine and years. That's the reality of where the EPBC

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Act is at the present moment, and they want to

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 3>put another layer or two of bureaucracy over the top

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 3>of that with what they call the Nature Positive Bill.

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 4>It's all bad news.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Let's hope like hell that they never get it through

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 3>between now and the election. Of course, you know, with

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 3>all the speculation of an early election, it may not

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 3>get up, but it's never dead until this government is gone.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 2>That's one simple, one hundred percent. The same with the

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 2>censoring of the Internet stuff. Absolutely, Linda, why are we wrong?

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 4>Look?

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 7>The Nature Positive Bill is a really fantastic one for

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 7>a couple of reasons, because it gives you a federal

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 7>regulator to protect people of clean water, clean environment, clean air,

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 7>the kinds of things that are actually really critical to

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 7>healthy people, healthy communities, healthy lives. Most states have epas,

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 7>they function really well. They're not shutting.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Down the wide duplicated angering.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 7>While James Ashby. They're actually improving people's health and improving

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 7>the health of their local environment. These things are really

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 7>positive things and they're good for people and good for communities.

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 7>The Prime Minister has given a commitment that the bills

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 7>will be back in Parliament when Parliament is due to

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 7>meet in February again. And here's the question that the

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 7>Greens are going to have to talk to their communities about.

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 7>In Ryan, in Melbourne, in Brisbane and Griffith, you could

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 7>have had nature positive laws passed today. You could have

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 7>had to all those Green voters. You could have had

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 7>a National Environmental.

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Protection you think you're watching it, But.

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 7>The Greens voted against it, and so that's why this

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 7>bill went down. And similarly, Peter Dutton to the Coalition right,

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 7>he's going to have to make make a case to

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 7>all those voters in teal seats in corect No page

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 7>curtain Goldstein. I could go on and on and on.

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 7>Those communities want protection for the environment and they could

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 7>have had them had the Coalition voted for these laws

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 7>last week.

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go run around on this forever,

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 2>but I do want to ask James one more question

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 2>on this though, which is in Western Australia, the heritage

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 2>laws were so bad that they sort of sung the

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 2>voice before it started to sink everywhere else around the country.

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Queensland wasn't going for it at all. But basically this

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 2>was not going to happen. Right in part Roger Cook

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Western Stralian Premium. It turns around, says mate, please don't

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.760
<v Speaker 2>put these things in place, because basically double click exactly

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the same effect. But if Albo's still saying this thing's

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>still coming, then what are they trying to do. Are

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 2>they trying to assume most people are so stupid that

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 2>they'll think that these things have been thrown in the bin,

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>because I'm pretty sure people like yourself and active parties

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:30.320
<v Speaker 2>like One Nation will.

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Be more than willing to tell them what's still on

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the table.

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, Paul, that was the Cultural Heritage Bill that passed

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.280
<v Speaker 3>over in WA, and it caused all sorts of mayhem,

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 3>not just for the mining industry, but for farmers or

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 3>anyone with a slightly bigger housing block. You weren't even

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 3>allowed to put a concrete driveway in your own property

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 3>without seeking cultural approval to have that happen. We've got

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 3>that right across the country. Now this is worse, and

0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 3>Lenda is right. We have got states with environ and

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 3>mental protection groups already established. Why are we duplicating it.

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 3>As far as I'm concerned, this should be scrapped all together.

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 3>We have so much duplication on a federal level. It

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter whether it's education, whether it's the health minister.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 3>All these things belong as decisions to the states. So

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 3>last thing we need to be doing is make it

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 3>more and more difficult for investment to occur in this country.

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 3>And the number one group of people that will be affected,

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 3>every one of those blue collar workers that work in

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter whether it's a goal mine or iron

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 3>ore or coal mine, any new future projects, because as

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 3>we know, the projects that you're working on will come

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 3>to an end of life at some point, and unless

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 3>there's future projects in the pipeline, you're not going to

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 3>have a job to go to into the future. Good

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 3>luck trying to get yourself a job that pays similar money,

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.399
<v Speaker 3>because it won't exist in the renewables. You'll be put

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 3>into that queue of learning how to make coffees for

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 3>all those people that will be on the train, because

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 3>that's that all will all that's left but arristed geeks.

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well until of course AI takes over that and

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>everything else in the next little while. All right, we

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>know we're in the fake election campaign. Now between now

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>and when either Parliament does or doesn't most likely why

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>view doesn't come back early election has announced as soon

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 2>as austraighted day a week after two weeks three. Anyway,

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask a slightly different way to talk

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 2>about this issue than which is you're going to have

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.240
<v Speaker 2>like ninety seconds each.

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, free advice.

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>How do you think if you could give the prime

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.240
<v Speaker 2>minister advice you would stop Peter Dutton and get yourself

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 2>re elected.

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 7>Look again, the Prime Minister does not need my advice.

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.760
<v Speaker 7>And I think the government's done the work Cheaper childcare,

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 7>increase wages, tax cuts of billions of dollars to every

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 7>Australian that Australians.

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Were already regretting this scene, and then.

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 7>The coalition your free tape, cheaper medicines.

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 7>I could go on and on about all the things

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 7>that Tabor and the Prime Minister have delivered, but let's

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:56.320
<v Speaker 7>be clear.

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 4>For all those places, if you look.

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 7>Across the world, and if you look you know recently

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 7>in elections labor will be the underdog. They will be

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 7>the underdog because at the moment in the world elections

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 7>right across the world, underdogs are having a.

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Tough So what's done in soft belly that you'd poke out?

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 7>I think he's got to tell people why he thinks

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 7>nuclear power plants that can't be built for decades will

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 7>deliver cheaper power to communities. They won't. He's got to

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 7>tell them why there was no research done on the

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 7>land that these power plants were promised on, why communities

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:31.280
<v Speaker 7>weren't consulting.

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>You're going all in onw.

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 7>Outline of vision. He's got an outline of vision for

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 7>the future of Australia, and all he's done so far

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 7>is just block bills, block ideas, block progress. He's just

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 7>so negative.

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, perhaps when you think somebody is doing the wrong

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>thing and you keep saying no, I don't know that

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 2>that's negative. But still I was going to say I

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't interrupt you, and then I realized.

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I interrupt you for that. You well, I mean credit, Yeah,

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I did my best.

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 2>You wait till like the bold predictions where I do

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 2>buy my tongue's best. I can James reverse though free advice.

0:40:58.360 --> 0:40:59.760
<v Speaker 2>How does somebody take on Albert?

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Look, the Labor Party will be going in as the underdog,

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 3>but the problem is you've got at least thirty five

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 3>percent of the Australian population that don't want to vote

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 3>for either of the two major parties One Nation. We

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 3>know we're not going to be government in this next

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 3>term of parliament. I'd hoped that we have more of

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:21.919
<v Speaker 3>a say in our Senate. I hope that One Nation

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 3>win seats there. But it's going to take bold ideas.

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 3>It's going to take a reversal of the path that

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 3>we've been on for the last three years under this government,

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 3>but more importantly, the path that the Coalition have been

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 3>distracted to go down in the past fifteen years. And

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I think the number one priority for the next government

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 3>would have to be to ensure that we don't allow

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 3>the volumes of people into this country that we've been taking.

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 3>You cannot accept the million people into a country and

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 3>still expect to house them and provide a cheap way

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 3>of life when rental prices are going through the roof.

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 3>So there's got to be a bold stance on immigration.

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.720
<v Speaker 3>I also think too, we're certainly going to be taking

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 3>the argument to the Australian people that we've got to

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 3>make citizenship tougher to get and if you're a bad bugger,

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 3>you won't get citizenship in this country. I'm tired of

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 3>those dead shits that we allow into this country and

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 3>we simply give them citizenship within a couple of years

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 3>and they play up to such a point we can't

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 3>get rid of them.

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 4>So we've got to make it harder. There's going to be.

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 3>A whole raft of bold initiatives that need to be

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 3>taken from the Conservatives if we're to roll this government.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Jeez, I know he just had a little practice, but mate,

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.240
<v Speaker 2>anytime you want to run for the Senate or somewhere else.

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Run, James run.

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I love that stuff. Notice I didn't interrupt h because

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree. Sadly, that's just the way it works

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 2>when you.

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Have the show.

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 7>I disagree with almost everything here.

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt what a Christmas party it had been.

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 2>All right, Quick down, great back with more, some bold

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 2>predictions for the week ahead, lots of other stuff in

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 2>the intrade. More in a moment here on Paul Murray

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Live and Don't Forget yeah, outown, we're looking at where

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>to go next to you.

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Send it some emails outtown.

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 2>It's gonnus dot com dot au with your suggestions.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for watching.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 2>We're here of course Sunday night, spending it with two

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>people who agree on everything, James Ashby and Lynda Scott.

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Think of it as like a little training session for

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the upcoming family event that you may be having in

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.720
<v Speaker 2>the next little while, although I think most Australian events

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 2>we just go whatever.

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Mate, Anyway, what's going on? You are right, which is

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the way it should be.

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Melbourne having a conversation on its fringes about

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 2>more housing.

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Why because we are more people.

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 2>In the country than we have had ever before, and

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>of course there are not enough places to put them.

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>But guess what, depending on where the area is, locals

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 2>turn around and say not in my backyard. And there

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>are politicians that will cater to them, like the Teals,

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the Greens, or in this case the Victorian Opposition leader

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 2>was often shaking hands with people who want to stop

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 2>a significant amount of unit developments in those parts of Melbourne. Linda,

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 2>as somebody who's seen it from the local council area.

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't.

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Think of anything more emotive for people, then why is

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 2>my area changing?

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Right? And I understand why.

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 2>People feel that, But if the people were consistent about

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 2>their view, I think they'd have a strong view about

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 2>limiting immigration as well. But they're all for bigger stratag

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>just as long as it's not my suburb that gets bigger.

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:20.240
<v Speaker 1>How does one square that circle?

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 7>Look, I do think it's tricky because we know we

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 7>have a shortage of houses, and some of that is

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 7>because of materials and some of it's because of skill shortages.

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 7>But in part we do need to get on and

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 7>build more housing and more housing in places that are

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 7>close to jobs. So we've seen the opposition leader in

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.720
<v Speaker 7>Victoria kind of oppose a lot of this new housing

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 7>and also say we should be going out to the regions. Now,

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.760
<v Speaker 7>I'm also for all new housing in the regions. Great,

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 7>but the problem is you've then got to find a

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 7>way to fund the roads. You've got to find to

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 7>fund the hospitals, fit the pothole have these increased population

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 7>centers in different places. So we do need to have

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 7>these sensible conversations. I continue to think, and I'll say

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 7>this to my dying day. Local governments are the best

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.760
<v Speaker 7>place to have these conversations, and so kind of stripping

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 7>away planning powers from councils where they don't want to

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 7>give them a way that does make communities upset. I

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<v Speaker 7>think councils are really well placed as a level of

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<v Speaker 7>government to go to communities and say, hey, listen, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>do you think this block or this street do we

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<v Speaker 7>need a new oval here. As a result, they're good

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<v Speaker 7>at doing that place based planning. But we can't avoid

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<v Speaker 7>the fact that we need more houses. We can't afford them.

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<v Speaker 7>We can't avoid the fact that we need more affordable housing.

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<v Speaker 7>And look, I do want to make this point. We

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<v Speaker 7>should not make people choose between superannuation and housing. We

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<v Speaker 7>should not allow a policy that allows people.

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<v Speaker 1>To draw down this if they're going to earn.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's going to pump up house prices.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know that we will have a chat in

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.399
<v Speaker 2>another day about that. Immigration pushes it up as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Scarcity is part of the issue too, James. Again, there's

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<v Speaker 2>always going to be the politician who turns around says

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<v Speaker 2>leave everything the way that it is, please vote for me, right, great,

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>But unless that person is consistent across all those areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they're talking out there proverbial, right, And you've seen

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<v Speaker 2>this when you're running for state, Right, There'll always be

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's going to try to take that lane.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it's the alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>Premiere of Victoria, I mean, you can't have it both ways.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't just all go to Swann Hill and Bendingo.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I must admit where I am in Kooey Bay

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<v Speaker 3>here in your poon. I don't want to see high

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<v Speaker 3>density living in my little pocket because I bought there,

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<v Speaker 3>because I like the fact.

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<v Speaker 4>That we're all low density here.

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<v Speaker 3>We can pull up out the front of the house

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<v Speaker 3>there and we're not fighting for cast spaces, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>not fighting to try and get access to the beach.

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 3>We've got no shortage of land in this country. If

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<v Speaker 3>you haven't had a look on the map, very minute

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<v Speaker 3>amount of it has been developed. The issue that we've

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<v Speaker 3>got here is it's hard to get approvals. That is

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest challenge that any developers face with in our area.

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.800
<v Speaker 3>And I think this stretches right across the whole country.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day, if you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>high density in your area, you should be allowed to

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.799
<v Speaker 3>say that you should be voicing that opinion to your

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 3>local counselors or members of parliament, and you should be

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<v Speaker 3>listened to. I certainly don't want high rise apartments built

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 3>beside me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not what I'm looking for. So call me in

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<v Speaker 4>Nimby if you want.

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, people have a

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 3>right to live in their communities, not some high density living.

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<v Speaker 1>Area without giving anything away.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm aware of that beautiful part of Australia that you're

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<v Speaker 2>in and I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>No change, don't change. Yeah, no want here.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's the worst. It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, isn't it all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get a bold prediction for the week ahead, Linda,

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<v Speaker 2>what's definitely happening this week? No parliament around, So what's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely happening this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Is your bold prediction?

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<v Speaker 7>Look, it's the first of December, so it's the official

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 7>start of the Christmas season. I'm very excited. I want

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 7>to say I'm picking up the wreath from the local

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 7>flores tomorrow, I'm preaking up the Christmas tree from the

0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 7>local primary school fundraiser on Saturday. I'm very excited. I'm

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 7>not going to be political. I will be another you

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 7>know varieties at the show, PAULI, but it's the time.

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<v Speaker 1>The prediction is, it's that time of the year.

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<v Speaker 7>It's going to be good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you this. I'm pumped about it this year,

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've already got the Christmas lists anywhere now, James Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>prediction for.

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<v Speaker 4>You, Well, I think I've been on camera long enough tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>The Miss Dessert, Mum and Dad's at one of the

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 3>things will be working on for Christmas. Christmas, we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>working on a cartoon for next year and it might

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<v Speaker 3>be a weekly series.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be a movie, Paul, What a movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to do it?

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<v Speaker 4>Movie?

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Like a feeding and proper?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely a movie of the please explain red carpet or

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 2>orange carpet in.

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<v Speaker 7>This case, genuinely terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's bloody fantastic. I'm just thinking about how much

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>rum ticket betwey daddy.

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I look forward to the cameo. All right, Thank you guys,

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>do appreciate. We'll see you all again out there. Start

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<v Speaker 2>should look that way right TV. All right, that is

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<v Speaker 2>our shaff right, thank you very much for watching Royal

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<v Speaker 2>Report on its way and we'll be back. Remember ignore

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<v Speaker 2>everything else, just be here each and every night, looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to it,