WEBVTT - #2066 A TYP Wedding? - Scott Douglas 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:04.560 I get a team, welcome another installment of the Youth Project. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:06.880 It's exactly what it's called. I was thinking it was 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:08.560 something else for a moment, but fuck it. I just 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:10.560 looked over my right shoulder and no, it is the 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:15.800 Youth Project. Scott Douglas is looking for reasons that might 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.239 reveal themselves in the next five to ten minutes. He's 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.640 looking somewhat awkward and clunky. Over there, he's normally looking. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.520 He's normally looking relaxed. Scott, are you okay? 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:27.840 I'm very good, Thank you, mister Harper. How are you today? 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:32.320 Yeah, so great to have you back. Scott Douglas, what's 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.160 going on? All right? 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:35.440 I'm very good, thank you. 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.760 I had a fat, fantastic weekend and I went for 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.720 swin today, so I'm actually quite relaxed. 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.440 And tell tell the good listeners. We're recording this Tuesday, 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.800 two thirty seven in the PM, which is good because 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:49.519 it would be stupid otherwise it'd be the middle of 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:49.880 the night. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.000 What you did on the weekend? 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.560 I went up to bright and I was an assistant 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.360 to the race director, so I drove one of the 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.640 cars literally behind groups large groups of cyclists for the 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.240 whole of the race, and it was without far one 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:05.280 of the most amazing. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.840 Things I've had the privilege I've been involved in. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:11.520 Now, what was your specific role other than hanging off 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.280 the big dog and going a look at me? 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.520 So I had a god named Greg in the front seat, 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.200 and he has like he's been in charge of Tour 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.440 de France, of Olympic rides, like he's quite well known 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:30.160 and a semi famous boss of that level of cycling. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.720 And he literally would tell me exactly what to do 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.759 in a very stern voice, exactly. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.400 Like he would say, please get closer, Please get close. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.880 I need that guy's number. And we would literally do 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.200 in eighty kilometers an hour. So the bikes are doing 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.640 eighty kilometers an hour down a hill and I'd be 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.520 on the wrong side of the road because the road's closed, 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.480 and I would pull up beside a cyclist and he 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.440 would take the guy's number or speak to the guy, 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:52.760 and then we'd back off. 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:54.640 And he's like the judge. He's at the head judge 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:55.120 of the race. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.840 Now, hang on, I should clarify because you're a motorcyclist 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:00.480 the driver. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.000 Were you on a bike or in a car? 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:02.640 In a car? 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:03.680 All right? 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.480 And and so you were were You were not there in 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.720 as a paramedic. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.760 No, but I was constantly asked about when there was crashes, 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.520 so I sort of was there on a consulting basis, 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.440 like do you think we need an ambulance? 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:17.960 Yes, we do. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.000 My actual role was to drive the two head judges 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.080 around the races, which is now. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.080 What I You know what I find interesting about you. 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.920 You're a man of many talents and a doer of 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.720 many things. But I find it funny because you're kind 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.679 of would you call yourself an introvert, an extrovert or 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.240 an ambivert, which is kind of you can switch? 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.320 Or do you think it's a bit context dependent? Yeah? 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:46.080 I think it's. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.080 I trust you, so I happily will discuss subjects that 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.480 I wouldn't trust with I wouldn't trust with other people. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:54.880 I know you're never going to make me look silly, 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.080 So I happily have a conversation with you, which is 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.639 the rons and it goes to air. But I don't 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.800 have to be room on those people are listening. But 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.480 there's aspects of my life that are no one's business 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:05.600 but mine, and I don't want. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:06.200 To share them. 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:07.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think. 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:08.960 It's everyone really, So. 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.760 Yeah, I think so, I think so. I mean what 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.120 I love about you is you are you are? You 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:14.720 are a. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:21.320 You're an atypical excellent communicator because you have a kind 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:26.840 of a weird, clunky, but beautifully creative and interesting way 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:32.400 of telling stories and sharing insights and building engagement and 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.880 building connection in a way that nobody could ever fucking teach. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.960 If I tried to teach someone to be you, to 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.800 communicate like you, I would not know where to start. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.960 Well, sometimes I don't know where to start either. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.120 But sometimes someone asks me what I think is a 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.120 really genuinely nice question, and I want to think about 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.400 the answer before I provide it, so I try very 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.960 hard to understand the question itself and maybe their motive 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:01.880 for asking that particular question. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.880 You've been really open in the last oh I don't 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.480 know how many episodes we've done together talking about the 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:14.240 trials and tribulations and traumas of being a first responder, 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.520 specifically with you a paramedic, and the fact that you 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.480 have or do use a psych I think a psychologist 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.760 and a psychiatrist. Is that still true? 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:26.120 Yes? 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.720 And I have an ironically die listens to your podcast 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.680 Oll I die, she will be so stoked that you 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:34.120 said that. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.760 And then I'm seeing her this Saturday. 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:37.000 So which ones die? 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.200 She's the psych she's the psych, so yes, and she's 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.640 loving her. I honestly believe I wouldn't have the capacity 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.080 to even have this conversation with you, mate, so absolutely, adore. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.600 I dedicated my first book to her. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.320 So, I mean, apart from my understanding of course of 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.919 a psychologist and a psychiatrist, but what's the distinction between 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.440 them for you in that the role they play in 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.080 helping you be the best you? 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:07.920 One can prescribe medication. Yeah, so that would literally is 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:13.520 a difference. And I'm literally, you know, in the in 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.280 the like the open. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.720 We are now talking honestly about what's going on with me. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:23.120 So I have started a new medication which is a 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.240 trial medication, but for me, it's actually worked incredibly well. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.560 And I literally had to have a conversation with my 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.640 doctor on Monday about that and it was very interesting. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.800 So I was very quite hesitant to try medication. I 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.719 didn't want it to mess with my brain. I didn't 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:38.880 want to write the way I. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.080 Think, or I communicate or I operate. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.600 But this particular medication for me personally and adotally has 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.640 been amazing, and it's just allowed me to sleep. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.360 That's actually why I it stops nightmares. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.559 And so would it be fair to say that one 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.400 one of them is more about your psychology and one 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.960 is more about your physiology, although they're both kind of overlapped, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.680 but one's really about looking after your brain and one's 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.159 really about helping your mind. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.279 Yes, yeah, I think that's a really good analogy, mate. 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:12.080 And some of the conversations I've had with Die about 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.400 my childhood. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.320 And I don't even remember that thing that. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.039 She asks me about until she asks me, and you 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:19.919 think why, I wonder why I don't remember that, and 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.279 then you start talking not too similar to when me 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.480 and you talked about, like me sleeping at the train station. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.679 I had not remembered that until you sort of pulled 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.520 down and then I started remembering the fact that I 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.760 did run away on a regular basis and sleeping parks 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.679 and sleep on roofs and sleep at a train station. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.479 We know trauma is shit, of course, and we know 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:41.800 PTSD as shit. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:47.520 Is there anything that comes out of trauma that's a positive? 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.920 I know Paul Taylor talks about post traumatic growth and 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.480 a few other people talk about that. But for you, 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:59.040 forget the science or the academic literature, but for you, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.600 as somebody who's like being through it and still going 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.039 through it, is there any upside to trauma or going 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:06.760 through that shit? 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:11.320 Yeah, your capacity to like everyone's worst day is their 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.040 worst day, and for some people their worst day is 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.400 literally smashing their shin on their toeba, which, think about it, 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.640 that's fucking traumatic. Yeah, that's obviously not my worst day, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.520 and you never want it to be a pissing contest. 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:27.040 But I've certainly had days then they stack and you go, well, 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.920 this isn't as bad as that. So you do this 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.520 comparison thing where you go that job, well, this job 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.720 is not as bad as that. So I think you 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.440 build up a very thick skin and you have the 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.760 capacity to then enter a house. And that's something that 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.240 we talk about with our students, like students are on 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.960 how do you walk into that situation where you've done it, 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.160 unfortunately unfortunately a dozen times before, So you do build 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.160 up a resilience and I think that does help you 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.160 then with other things. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:57.200 It's interesting how like and I don't think my days 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.600 and as you said, it's not a pissing contest, and 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.680 it's not comparison. But I think I've had pretty much 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:09.000 zero trauma compared to what you've had. But my potential 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.240 worst day where the crab died in front of me, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.640 turned out to be one of my best days. You know, 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.560 clearly I don't want that to happen again. But where 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.320 your friend literally dies for seventeen minutes and they're dead 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.280 in front of you and all that, you know what 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.760 that looks like. You know what someone who's been dead 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.520 for quarter of an hour looks like. It's not a 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:31.680 great sight. And then when they're not, you're like, oh, like, 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:38.640 talk about a fucking roller coaster of chemicals and emotions 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.680 and experiences. And I don't know how many thoughts go 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.520 through my mind in a typical minute, but fuck me drunk, 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.640 there was about one million going through my mind at 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:49.120 that time. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.800 May I say something about that, Craig? 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.640 Do you And this would be a question to you, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.360 do you believe it has made that experience for you, 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.600 has made you a better person? And my second question 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.080 would be do you believe your love for that man 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:01.920 now is greater? 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:04.040 Yes? And yes? 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.400 I think I don't know if I'm a good person 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.280 or not. And I'm not fishing when I say that. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.720 I hope I am. But I don't think that's for 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:17.240 me to judge, but it certainly certain it's certainly given 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.760 me a level of insight and understanding and awareness and 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:24.800 compassion and perspective about what fucking matters. I think I 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.720 always had a reasonable perspective. That's not true. When I 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.040 was younger, I didn't. But in the last twenty years 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.760 I think of it. But that really just brought everything 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:41.040 screamingly into perspective. And yeah, yeah, of course I love him. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.800 I care about him. It's one of my best friends 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.480 in the world. But I would do that for literally 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:46.400 anyone in the world. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:47.840 Yes, I agree. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.000 I guess the point I'm making is I had the 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.760 privilege of experience in that sometimes every other day. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.480 So for me, it's amazing. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:03.960 Yeah, thought to myself, if I stop now, it's okay, Yeah, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.080 you don't do this anymore. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:06.120 I think I did a good job. 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.320 So we're going to open a slightly uncomfortable door, but 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:17.240 fuck it, it's my show. So when you're navigating mental 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:21.520 health stuff, right, and you're trying to manage you, yes, right, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:27.120 and you are you are, like you're trying to keep 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.480 yourself together and be a good in your case, good dad, 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:37.240 good friend, good paramedic, good medical professional, good writer, good 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:39.240 podcast co host. 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.360 You're almost a co host now all of the things. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.080 Do you worry about getting in a relationship? Yes, do 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.400 you think? Do you think? I don't know if that's 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:49.240 a good idea? 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:49.720 Yes? 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.520 All the time? Yeah, right, and so when you kind 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.120 of obviously. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.320 It depends pretty much on the person, right, Yes, I 0:10:58.320 --> 0:10:58.760 mean there are a. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:10:59.520 Lot of variables. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.160 But even if if you've even if you've got all 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.160 your shit sorted, but you connect with the wrong person, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:05.400 that's going to be problematic. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.040 Right, So what what do you like? 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.200 What goes through your mind when you think about moving 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:16.640 into a different stage of your life or to potentially 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.880 find a partner or spend time with someone and see 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:19.840 if something evolves. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.880 Well that so you might start spending time with someone 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.480 and then you constantly have to check in on them 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:31.000 to make sure that you're not burdening them with what 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:35.840 you're carrying, Like you there might be subjectly flat stick 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.640 don't talk about Yeah, and so sometimes some people, and 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.160 I've had this conversation with some of my colleagues. But 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.040 some people are attracted to what we do, and I 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:48.120 say we myself and maybe firemen and police officers. So 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.280 so I you know, I date females. So some females 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.760 are attracted to that, and they like they light up 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:54.800 when you say, oh, this is what I do for 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.520 a living. But that's because, in my opinion, they have 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:01.640 an unrealistic expectation of what we do. So those kind 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.080 of people probably would be quite problematic to date. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.680 How long since you've had a partner, girlfriend, life? 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:11.240 Anything? 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.200 Quite some time? Actually? 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:21.320 Well what a year? Five years? It's a year a year, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.240 so you've just been dagging around for a year or so? Possibly, yes, 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.960 anything on the horizon that I mean, I don't know, like, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.040 is there is there anyone? 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:31.640 Is Is there anyone? 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:37.160 I mean, we don't me in the list what, yes, there. 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.400 Is me and the listeners do not want to pry. Yeah. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.240 Now it's been very very interesting for me. Right. So 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.840 obviously I retired and I did a whole bunch. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.960 I went to grief school, which is really cool, and 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:49.480 I went away and I traveled, and I spent a 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.880 whole bunch of time by myself, making sure that I 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.480 was well and I wanted to get myself well and 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.040 be a better dad, and be a bit all the 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.840 things that you suggested. Right, Obviously, I'll come back to 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.439 Australia and I think about what I'm going to do next. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.839 And obviously I was spending a lot more time with you, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.240 and then I started spending a bit of time with 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.199 a person who I realized was very special. And then 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.120 I was like, okay, well this person is incredibly special, 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.360 then you need to go very slow and make sure 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:22.760 you speak to them about who you are and on 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.240 the journey that you've been on, because there's a high 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.520 probability you're still traveling on that path. 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.520 And so look, my biggest fear is always harming someone, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:33.080 you know. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.719 So that for me feel like I feel like if 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.840 someone's listening, they're thinking that you're about to tell the 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.800 world that you and I are in a relationship. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.400 So we're talking about a woman, not me, right, it's a. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.640 Beautiful and incredibly intelligent young lady. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:57.640 Yes, wow, wow, who might who might that be? 0:13:59.160 --> 0:13:59.280 Well? 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.120 That's can we mystery woman? 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:04.600 Mystery woman? 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:05.360 My harps? 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:14.800 Oh no, fuck, she's come out from behind the curtain, 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.199 the typ curtain. 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:21.200 Oh my god, you two that's a fucking train wreck. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.360 Stop now, No, don't do it. What are you thinking? 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.280 Oh it's so good? No, I'm just kidding off. Known 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:32.360 for a while everyone, TIF, Tip's got a boyfriend. TIF, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:37.600 you've got a boyfriend. Tip's got a boyfriend. How how 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:41.160 uncomfortable were you sitting there for those fucking fifteen minutes? 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.920 Relatively? Probably it was more uncomfortable. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.240 Now, what about clunky Mt Clunkster in the top left 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.400 hand corner stumbling over his words? 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.400 All the charismas seeped. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.680 Out of his bottom and he was just trying to 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.920 fucking I've never seen him such a straighty one eighty 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:00.120 all building. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:00.640 To this moment? 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.280 All right, tell us what's going on. When did you 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.840 first hang out? What did you like? Everyone wants to know. 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.600 Did you go for a motorbike ride? Did you eat food? 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.880 Did you talk about the meaning of what happened? 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.080 We had coffee. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.800 We had coffee quite some time ago, and it was lovely, 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:19.960 and then we started doing other stuff, like we went 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:20.920 from motor socle ride and that. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:21.440 Was I thought. 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.560 Tiff made an amazing effort because she had to obviously 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.320 come to my place, which is an hour from where 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:26.760 we live. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.000 Where she lived sorry, And then we went. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.400 Down the coast, which was a very long ride, and 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.840 I thought, man, this chick's fucking cool, Like it's going 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.400 to make this such a massive effort to do this 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.320 thing that I like and she likes. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.320 So yeah, but it was very for me, like it 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:41.200 was very stressful. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.920 Well, in what way have you not seen her, Deltoyd's Craig, Like, 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.560 imagine making a false move, Imagine inadvertently accidentally touching her 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.360 on the ass while you're walking down the street and 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:57.720 your categoric is not mean to yeah, making a mouth. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.920 Were you thinking she just nice and she's nice like 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:02.960 this to everybody? 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.280 Or because there are kinds of nice. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.000 There's the nice where I'm into you nice like put 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:10.880 your arm around me, or let's go on a date, 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.160 or let's all kiss me on the fucking face or 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.480 something right and what the fuck's wrong with you? And 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.680 then there's the other nice where she's just a good 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.800 person who's really polite to everyone. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.440 I thought, so when we first started like spending time together, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.520 I didn't think we would go on a date. I 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.720 was very very happy just to go from a motorbike 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.280 ride or get some food or talk. We would just 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.680 talk for ages and it was lovely. And it wasn't 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.920 until much later that I actually had to ask her 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:39.880 out on an actual date. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:41.880 How did you go with that tip? 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:43.840 Good? 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.080 Look at you. I've never seen you. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:52.160 Talk less on this show, and I've never seen you embarrassed. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:56.200 This is the best time of my life. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.800 I think what was harder, Craig was coffee with you. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:01.840 Once you found out. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.600 That was fucking scary. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.840 That's all right, as long as we just got to 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.720 look after each other and you're very happy. I'm happy 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.879 as a pig. And shit, you know why because she 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:21.320 thinks you're great. You think she's great. You know, who 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.760 knows what's going to happen, But you know, I think 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.760 you too are a good fit. And I don't know 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.720 who I would have said that about, for Tiff, like 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.240 or you for that matter. But it's like. 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.480 Tiff said to me a few weeks ago. 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:43.520 Something like I'm seeing someone or something like that, because 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.320 she rang me at a weird time. I think it 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.439 was like eight thirty on a Tuesday night. And she 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:52.720 never rings unless it's for a reason like training or 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:56.200 podcasting or to ask me a question. And she got 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.159 on the phone and she was just talking about nothing 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:02.080 in particular. I could take thirty at night. Well, it's fuck. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.760 My brain like is in the desk? What are you doing? 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.600 Like this is not my peak performance time. I don't 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.680 know if I can help you, and kind of what. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:11.320 Do you want? She has? 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.760 Ah ah, So I've. 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:14.560 Been seeing someone. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.960 I go, and my first question was a boy or 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:23.600 a girl, because I thought, who knows? And she goes 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.239 to boy and I go, I know who it is, 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.720 and I knew it was you straight up. 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:29.360 She's like, how did you know that? 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:33.840 I go, because I kind of you're probably both weird 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:35.280 enough to be awesome together. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:37.239 Yes, that's right. 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.240 What does it feel like for you tif to be 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.880 in a relationship, because I feel like for a while 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.320 you were well, I don't feel like you were quite 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:46.400 anti relationship. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.359 I literally just had a conversation with the wonderful doctor 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.280 Bruce Perry on my show, saying that I've never been 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.720 less interested in blokes or relationships in my life, and 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.000 it really it feels really nice, very good. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:07.920 Yeah, and so obviously I heard that podcast and then when, oh, 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.879 that's cool that that young lady's not interested in a relationship. 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.080 That's cool. We'll just keep having coffee. 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.760 Yeah, yeah, that's what about the dance? What about the 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:20.600 dance with no pants? What's happening there? 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:21.800 What? 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:28.320 Hello? Come in? Hello? Anyone? Anyone? All right? 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.040 Well, hey, listeners, just let me tell you they're both 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.280 falling off their chairs. Will schedule that for another podcast. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.480 But I'll circle back everyone, I'll circle back and I'll 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:43.200 see where we stand. But from the faces, I'm guessing, yes, 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:44.280